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Speaker 3: and Mickey Spagnola. You realized we came oh so close.
Speaker 3: Well maybe not that close, but oh to Everson greeting
Speaker 3: in the plane the tack I wrote, I'm writing about it.
Speaker 3: I mean they were in position that last drive.
Speaker 4: I'm sitting down, not ever, I was just I'm sitting
Speaker 4: there thinking, O.
Speaker 3: S ball game. It's thirty to twenty four and the
Speaker 3: Cowboys get the ball back with less than three minutes left.
Speaker 3: All they gotta do is matriculate down the field, and
Speaker 3: it was gonna be past to number eighty seven in
Speaker 3: the back of the end zone and it would have
Speaker 3: been the Cowboys catch.
Speaker 2: I would have been so happy for it.
Speaker 3: And ever since, this is what we concluded the show.
Speaker 3: On Friday with and ever I had eversince going to
Speaker 3: the airport to greet the plane and shake Jake Perkinson's hand.
Speaker 2: And I never committed to that by way.
Speaker 4: No, he did not, but if it had happened, and
Speaker 4: at about maybe it was about quarter after four fourth
Speaker 4: when I was walking to my car off the charter,
Speaker 4: there was a guy out there with a camera, and
Speaker 4: I was thinking, oh, I had sobody to shout it exactly.
Speaker 3: Was it a Channel eleven camera?
Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't recognize. There's always like somebody there
Speaker 4: when we show.
Speaker 3: Up morning shows. I got to get because of course
Speaker 3: the story of the day is whatever happened with the
Speaker 3: Cowboys on Sunday night football, And so we got to
Speaker 3: get their arrival at the airport for a regular season game,
Speaker 3: and ever since just alarm went off to tell him
Speaker 3: that he needs to be in the studio at twelve o'clock,
Speaker 3: it goes off at twelve oh four.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you guys are laughing, because no one
Speaker 4: else is not not a lot of laughter.
Speaker 3: On that plane. Yeah, playing carm you're working there working
Speaker 3: with my air plugs in so but you can feel it.
Speaker 4: It's everybody's sleeping.
Speaker 3: And just like kind of the way they went through
Speaker 3: the third quarter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was there was a lot of frustration. And
Speaker 4: I've seen, you know, McCarthy after losses, but I could
Speaker 4: tell he was really frustrated, and I think he the
Speaker 4: last thing he was asked is he was getting ready
Speaker 4: to walk off. It was something about one of the
Speaker 4: miss calls, and he said, go ask them just like that,
Speaker 4: and he just walked off.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about the touchdown.
Speaker 4: Just come up with any of three or four things.
Speaker 5: I think that's the biggest, right, the pick play, the
Speaker 5: pick play where they picked up the flat.
Speaker 4: Well, how about the touchdown when his perty's elbow was
Speaker 4: on the ground. The ball never crossed the plane. They
Speaker 4: didn't even look at it. And then you saw how
Speaker 4: the game started with the legal formation. It was an illegal.
Speaker 3: They talked that.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you could tell on TV, but
Speaker 4: the head referee and the guy on that sideline when
Speaker 4: they saw how the Cowboys were lined up, they they
Speaker 4: questioned them, right, and they talked about it, and I
Speaker 4: thought they talked it out. Then the official on the
Speaker 4: other side throws his flag five minute five yards legal formation, Well,
Speaker 4: it wasn't illegal. Because they only had one guy back.
Speaker 4: So you don't have to have nine guys on the
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. You can have nine and another one
Speaker 4: off the line of scrimmage. Right, Well, they sat there
Speaker 4: and argued with them, and remember who was part of
Speaker 4: the committee that came up rules fossil Right, So I
Speaker 4: was told afterwards that New York finally called down and
Speaker 4: told them you screwed it up. You were wrong, because
Speaker 4: if you looked at how they lined up the rest
Speaker 4: of the game, CJ. Goodwin was four yards behind the one.
Speaker 3: I mean, how are you going to run the illegal
Speaker 3: forward pass on the reverse? Absolutely?
Speaker 4: And so so that now then they finally so one
Speaker 4: guy figured it out. One guy figured out that two
Speaker 4: guys were wrong on the pick play? Right, how does
Speaker 4: that happen?
Speaker 5: And for a lot there was a lot of flags
Speaker 5: being thrown, so obviously they all saw the same.
Speaker 3: Okay, so tell me that again.
Speaker 4: One guy was well, two flags were thrown, and so
Speaker 4: somebody had to go tell those guys, no, that wasn't
Speaker 4: a pick. And then the worst part was whoever was
Speaker 4: the guy on TV? Said well no, the dB ran
Speaker 4: into the wider price and collins Worth said, well, if
Speaker 4: that's the case, then we're gonna have a lot of
Speaker 4: legal picks.
Speaker 2: It was that was so obvious.
Speaker 4: I mean, and you know, on the two things I
Speaker 4: mentioned the you know, the elbow down on the quarterback sneak,
Speaker 4: it was probably just delaying the eye there. They were
Speaker 4: going to eventually score right the way things.
Speaker 2: But I don't think they will.
Speaker 5: I don't think they would have eventually scored on the
Speaker 5: pick play though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a third down play. If it's it
Speaker 3: would have been third and goal at the back them
Speaker 3: up and third and goal, third goal like the two Well,
Speaker 3: they were third and goal at the two on the play.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so then you're talking about that would have been
Speaker 5: at the twelfth right, totally different thing.
Speaker 2: So but anyway, I thought that was that was the key.
Speaker 4: It was just a continuation of what started on Tuesday.
Speaker 4: Your kicker gets picked for jury to go to jury, dude.
Speaker 3: And by the way, the other thing, go ahead on
Speaker 3: the party one. That was a third down play too, yes,
Speaker 3: and so they would have been they would have been
Speaker 3: going for it on fourth and goal at the one
Speaker 3: inch line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they would have.
Speaker 3: And likely would have made it. But just now, because
Speaker 3: you could fumble a snap you could like Geno Smith. Yesterday, Yes,
Speaker 3: Connor Williams step Connor Williams stepped on his foot and
Speaker 3: he felt fell back.
Speaker 5: Uh, you saw some good gold line stances all day yesterday.
Speaker 3: Now now you were talking about brainon Aubrey and jury.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we started the week with Aubrey, right, and then
Speaker 4: not only does he get called, he gets selected, he's
Speaker 4: got a practice at night.
Speaker 2: Uh. Then the boys came out there and practice with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the deep snap on Thursday night in the dark
Speaker 3: out here on the practice field because there's a high
Speaker 3: school game going on and then I couldn't go into that,
Speaker 3: so they had to come out here on the field
Speaker 3: where it's dark.
Speaker 5: And then, hey, I think that's the way he used
Speaker 5: to practice before he came to the NFL.
Speaker 4: Anyway, before he got to the US, learned to kick.
Speaker 4: Then before the game, ric o'donald comes down with a
Speaker 4: high fever and some people think that that was phony.
Speaker 4: Well it wasn't phony. He had a high fever and
Speaker 4: they had to they had to make it. Well, he
Speaker 4: was coming up anyway, They're already had activated him off
Speaker 4: practice squad, right, and.
Speaker 3: So what were they going to do? You got flu?
Speaker 4: Then he was the third running back, and he would
Speaker 4: have had a couple of characters.
Speaker 3: No, no, who okay what roster?
Speaker 4: Deuce would have been down?
Speaker 3: Okay, got you? Yeah, and so I didn't I didn't
Speaker 3: even say I didn't even realize Duce.
Speaker 4: Wash yeah, because it never was a DNP. He didn't
Speaker 4: even but he was.
Speaker 3: That's why I didn't realize him.
Speaker 4: Okay, and so and so ninety minutes before the game
Speaker 4: is when you got to do your enacting. Sure, right,
Speaker 4: So they're still well, the fever is still kind of high.
Speaker 4: Can we take this chance that it clears because they
Speaker 4: gave him probably medicine, right, and so they decided, no,
Speaker 4: let's not chance it because we could get left shorthanded
Speaker 4: at the running back. I think it was flew like
Speaker 4: symptoms or something to that effect, but who knows, right,
Speaker 4: And so that happens. Then we find out the Joneses
Speaker 4: get in the car accident trying to enter the stadium
Speaker 4: when the barrier comes up out of the ground and
Speaker 4: gets the car. One car went through. I guess the
Speaker 4: second car thought, okay, I'm good to go. Then that
Speaker 4: happens came up out of the ground. I was there
Speaker 4: and go what next, and then I said, oh, the
Speaker 4: third quarter happened.
Speaker 2: The driver doesn't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was never verified or maybe there was an
Speaker 3: attendant there or something, and he just assumed that that
Speaker 3: the it stays down for how.
Speaker 5: Like a AT and T stadium, which it probably is.
Speaker 5: It's pretty self explanatory what to do, right, like if
Speaker 5: you go through, go through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Go through the If you once you go through the
Speaker 5: barrier and that doesn't come up, you have to wait
Speaker 5: for the barrier to come.
Speaker 2: Back down, right and then.
Speaker 5: Okay, then they massed the button on the green. Everything
Speaker 5: green comes up and.
Speaker 3: You go have you ever been in that position at
Speaker 3: AT and T Stadium? Or you had to wait for
Speaker 3: the barrier to get under the stadium.
Speaker 2: So we are like this guy, I don't know that.
Speaker 3: I'm so media parking, So sid media. You know where
Speaker 3: the old Ring, you know where the Rangers.
Speaker 2: Used to you know where the Rangers you guys.
Speaker 3: You know where the Rangers used to play over there
Speaker 3: in Armington, Ye, the other side. Yeah, that's where we park.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, and you deserve.
Speaker 4: That, which makes me think, actually that's not where we park.
Speaker 3: But we do have to walk all the way around
Speaker 3: the stadium to the media.
Speaker 4: Half way around anyway.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm so sid I heard that what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 4: I always have anxiety when I returned my rental car,
Speaker 4: like when I go over that barrier.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing the car.
Speaker 5: It's the same thing basically, except that you got the
Speaker 5: things the columns come, but it's the same. It's the
Speaker 5: same process, is what I'm saying. So the driver should know.
Speaker 5: I gotta wait, It's just that simple. I gotta wait.
Speaker 3: Who did a good job of diverting from away from
Speaker 3: the third quarter?
Speaker 2: Well, well before we divert away from it.
Speaker 5: Let me say this, all those bad cause we got
Speaker 5: it's because the rest they don't respect this anymore.
Speaker 4: Somebody told me they just didn't want San Francisco to
Speaker 4: be three and five.
Speaker 2: Man, And they're just as bad as we are.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine, though, if someone, let's say they watched
Speaker 3: the first half of the game and then they had
Speaker 3: to go run an errand, and then they came back
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, they would have you if you just
Speaker 3: and you you didn't have the score on the screen,
Speaker 3: you would have thought the Cowboys won the game of
Speaker 3: twenty four to nine. Oh yeah, absolutely, But that third
Speaker 3: quarter was it was like the Ravens game all over it.
Speaker 3: In fact, this game was sort of like the Ravens
Speaker 3: really when you just look at the where if you
Speaker 3: started in the third quarter, Ravens got up twenty eight
Speaker 3: to six, and then here come the Cowboys back and
Speaker 3: made it the twenty eight twenty five game.
Speaker 4: In the end, I am going to propose that they
Speaker 4: start the game in a two minute drill.
Speaker 5: That's what I was going to say. Let's just go
Speaker 5: with the pace. You know, our pace needs to pick up,
Speaker 5: and we've done that before. We did it last year. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we did that several times last year to where we say,
Speaker 5: you know what, let's work on this because this gives
Speaker 5: us more energy. And that's what we need right now
Speaker 5: in our offense, especially our offense, We need more energy.
Speaker 5: It needs to be transferred offensively to where once we
Speaker 5: controlled the game, I think the defense feels better when
Speaker 5: they go out there, because, as I said last year
Speaker 5: and previously, our defense plays off of offense.
Speaker 2: That's just the way that you know.
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy said subtlement to me because I was houting
Speaker 3: the fullbacks coming into the game, and uh, use check
Speaker 3: and then, uh, Lipke what he's done this season, And
Speaker 3: he actually said to me that we do a lot
Speaker 3: if you go back and look at it, we've got
Speaker 3: a lot more positive plays when Lipkey's on the field. Well,
Speaker 3: Lipkey's been on the field on in the third down situations. Yeah,
Speaker 3: two minute drill has the blocking back And so I want,
Speaker 3: I wonder they probably have analytics on it. It's broken
Speaker 3: down specifically, like a plus minus for specific plays and
Speaker 3: for players. And I bet you Lypke's is pretty high
Speaker 3: because of that. Now, you don't want to hand him
Speaker 3: the ball on third and five, right.
Speaker 2: But you can throw it to him. You can throw
Speaker 2: it to him.
Speaker 4: And it didn't matter who you handed it to.
Speaker 3: And that one lot, Yeah, that's the.
Speaker 4: Warner comes through untouched Jesus, because Zeke.
Speaker 3: Look good running the ball. And but when you hand
Speaker 3: it to him and Warner is coming through unblocked, and
Speaker 3: who he gets.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and let's get get rid of before we go
Speaker 4: to the third quarter of the Elephant in the room.
Speaker 4: Delvin Cook was going to be the savior of this
Speaker 4: running game. I gotta play him, you gotta play them. Okay,
Speaker 4: you got six carries for twelve yards because he can't
Speaker 4: get to the line of scrimmage because they can't block.
Speaker 4: They couldnot run block to save their lives. And these
Speaker 4: guys were getting hit at the line of scrimmage or
Speaker 4: behind the line of scrimmage repeatedly. And it's been happening
Speaker 4: all year and it's no different, right, this is what
Speaker 4: it's been. And then when you can't run the ball,
Speaker 4: they're printing pressure on the quarterback. The first interception, it's like, well,
Speaker 4: what are they doing throwing deep? Well, he got hit
Speaker 4: by Bosa. You cannot throw deep when you're off your
Speaker 4: back foot getting ready.
Speaker 2: At the time he had eight eight.
Speaker 4: Times they registered hits, and I bet when the coaches
Speaker 4: come back, I bet it's a dozen. He was under
Speaker 4: pressure the whole Well, when you can't run the ball,
Speaker 4: what are they going to do? They're coming at you,
Speaker 4: and you know, he made a bad decision on the
Speaker 4: second interception, should have never thrown the ball, but on
Speaker 4: that deep throw. And then he had another perfect deep throw.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately the wide receiver was my size and he couldn't
Speaker 4: get up high enough to catch it.
Speaker 3: I don't know that he was gonna come down in
Speaker 3: bounds on that.
Speaker 5: Now I think if he would have caught it cleanly, Yeah,
Speaker 5: he footwork would have been better, because when he realized
Speaker 5: he didn't have it, then footwork didn't matter.
Speaker 3: I know, if I didn't know if that was a
Speaker 3: red line situation, you know in practice they've got the
Speaker 3: red line down, like he got too close where you
Speaker 3: don't have enough space on the sideline.
Speaker 5: Well he really didn't, but it was still salvageable.
Speaker 4: And then what what did you think about the throw
Speaker 4: in that the end zone for for student maker? He
Speaker 4: had a kind of the guy like we said in college, man,
Speaker 4: they get scholarships to these guys get paid as well. Right, No,
Speaker 4: not the one off the ti his hands.
Speaker 3: Oh that was spanned Ford Ford.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry. It was Ford and the guy got
Speaker 4: it on the second, not the first swipe, the second.
Speaker 2: That was a good That was a good attempt.
Speaker 3: You know who that reminded me of. You know who
Speaker 3: that reminded me of in San Francisco, who going up
Speaker 3: high like that in the end.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what, It just always comes back to
Speaker 6: the catch.
Speaker 3: Schoomaker only was on the field for two plays.
Speaker 4: Well, he got the interference at the goal line.
Speaker 3: I know it one very significant play.
Speaker 4: But what I mean, they ran a heck of a
Speaker 4: lot and I know we're getting ahead of ourselves here
Speaker 4: too tight ends because they could not block, they could
Speaker 4: not pass protect. If they didn't double and triple team Bosa,
Speaker 4: they were out of luck. And you can't keep doing
Speaker 4: that otherwise you don't have enough guys going into the
Speaker 4: pass route if you got a tight end over here,
Speaker 4: staying in a tight end over here.
Speaker 3: But that's what that's what I'm saying is they ran
Speaker 3: a lot of too tight end and Schoonmaker wasn't one
Speaker 3: of those two tight ends. Well, they had spanned Ford.
Speaker 3: It was on the field for nineteen snaps and Schoonmaker gets.
Speaker 4: Well, he blocks better, oh for what I would say. So,
Speaker 4: I mean, that's why he's there.
Speaker 3: That's one of the reasons that you drafted Schoonmaker in
Speaker 3: the second round is he could do both. Well you thought, okay,
Speaker 3: I learned something new, or we going to the third
Speaker 3: quarter when we get back. We're going to the third
Speaker 3: quarter when we come back, so fair warning.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm distracted right now. I'm sitting there watching the
Speaker 3: Tyreek Stevenson the Bears defensive back on the hail Mary.
Speaker 2: We're not getting to that yet. We're supposed to get
Speaker 2: to the third quarter.
Speaker 3: Let's get to the third quarter, all right, third quarter?
Speaker 3: Make you where are you gonna start? How about where
Speaker 3: they opening kickoff of the third quarter.
Speaker 2: Held?
Speaker 4: The one that was short, didn't make it to the
Speaker 4: landing zone? Is that the one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of started the whole thing.
Speaker 4: It hit inside, It hit before the twenty And see
Speaker 4: if they were trying so hard on kickoff and kickoff
Speaker 4: returns to like steal steel a play. Maybe we can
Speaker 4: hit these line drive kicks. And I remember I asked
Speaker 4: that to Fossil like when the new rules came out,
Speaker 4: I said, can a kicker be accurate enough to hit
Speaker 4: line drives? So it'll hit the ground and roll into
Speaker 4: the end zone and then it doesn't come out until
Speaker 4: the twenty and he said, you got to be really
Speaker 4: good at that because he said the percentages are not
Speaker 4: real high that you can control the ball that well.
Speaker 3: All right, So Shanahan's halftime interview before going to the
Speaker 3: locker room at halftime, he was asked about them trailing
Speaker 3: ten to six, and he said, well, we get the
Speaker 3: ball first. We need to score a touchdown to start
Speaker 3: the second half. And so the Cowboys just fed right
Speaker 3: into their hands. Yeah, giving them the ball at the
Speaker 3: forty yard line. Yeah, and see sixty yards five plays,
Speaker 3: forty three yard are to kittle the big play down
Speaker 3: to the four yard line. Next Plaguer windows in the
Speaker 3: end zone.
Speaker 4: And I thought the end of the first half was
Speaker 4: a precursor to what was happening with the running game,
Speaker 4: because they had done a pretty good job up until
Speaker 4: that point. And when San Francisco with two fifty six
Speaker 4: at their thirty, all of a sudden, Guirando rushes for
Speaker 4: nineteen yards, right, that was their biggest run so far.
Speaker 4: And then he has a fifteen yarder, So all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, thirty four yards. I think they had seventy
Speaker 4: in the first half, and two plays they found something
Speaker 4: to run with the ball, and they got down close
Speaker 4: and they were able to finally thanks. Was there a
Speaker 4: holding call in there or something that caused them to Yeah,
Speaker 4: there was a hold on eighty five, the backup tight end.
Speaker 4: When they had got down it was it was they
Speaker 4: had gotten down real close.
Speaker 2: It was San Francisco.
Speaker 3: It wasn't killing aber Eric Sobert eighty kittles eighty five, eighty.
Speaker 4: Five, It was eighty two. Yeah, and so it was like, oh,
Speaker 4: they found something. They're starting to run the ball, and.
Speaker 5: Then that was to their right. Yeah, in between the
Speaker 5: go on the tackle tackling.
Speaker 4: And then they came back.
Speaker 3: They found something, which is what they've been doing all season.
Speaker 3: The quarterback can run the football prety pretty party ran
Speaker 3: even before the kittle, Even before the kittle forty three yarder.
Speaker 3: Cowboys had twelve men on the field, and yeah, pretty
Speaker 3: pretty good, well, but it was declined Gause pretty got
Speaker 3: nine yards anyway, even with twelve men on the field.
Speaker 3: Then on third and one gets the first down, and
Speaker 3: then Kittle and then well and then okay, this is
Speaker 3: just everything that happened in the third quarter was it
Speaker 3: was a comedy of errors for the Cowboys. So then
Speaker 3: after the touchdown they gave San Francisco the lead. You're
Speaker 3: two minutes into the quarter, and that's when you run
Speaker 3: the reverse on the on the kickoff, which was an
Speaker 3: illegal forward pass?
Speaker 4: Was it?
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, you got it. When you'll execute when you
Speaker 3: it throws you because Turpin's going forward and he is.
Speaker 3: He's basically tossing the ball up in the air, and
Speaker 3: when Goodwin takes it, technically whatever yard line they were on,
Speaker 3: they were forward from it. It doesn't too when you're
Speaker 3: looking at it live, you don't think it's a forward
Speaker 3: pass because Turpin is in front of it. But you
Speaker 3: can't toss it. Where it goes forward doesn't matter where
Speaker 3: Turpin is. It's where the ball where he released it.
Speaker 3: And so basically Turpin has to turn his back and
Speaker 3: toss it backwards if he's going to pitch it rather
Speaker 3: than hand it off.
Speaker 4: Well, see they figured something out on that that forty
Speaker 4: three yard pass to Kittle. Cowboys have been putting their
Speaker 4: line back draw on the line of scrimmage and that
Speaker 4: was stopping the run there for a little bit. Well,
Speaker 4: when he comes over in there's no one there. There's
Speaker 4: no one there to you know, until the safety would
Speaker 4: come up and he's got a running start.
Speaker 3: So in that case, he was Donovan Wilson. That was
Speaker 3: was trailing.
Speaker 5: That was that the one he Valainlivan Wilson was trailing
Speaker 5: him the entire freaking game. So I don't know what
Speaker 5: happened on that particular play. But when you're a player.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 5: You got it that the scheme works for you. You
Speaker 5: have to play within the scheme. But at one point
Speaker 5: they're pretty much showing you the hand every time. Every
Speaker 5: route Killer ran was an end cut. After a while,
Speaker 5: there's a dB you can't get food every time by
Speaker 5: the same freaking route. That's where the matchups come in.
Speaker 5: The matchup makes a different there. There's a difference there.
Speaker 5: There's not the scheme that makes a difference there, it's
Speaker 5: the matchup. So if you have to be smart enough
Speaker 5: to see that your your tight end has run the
Speaker 5: same route on you two times previous, this is the
Speaker 5: third time. Eventually you got to get the memo. Those
Speaker 5: are just match up problems that has nothing to do
Speaker 5: with the scheme. That's why players have to be consistent,
Speaker 5: and Donovan Wilson is not consistent some games. I see
Speaker 5: him and I'm like, whoa, that's the guy been I've
Speaker 5: enjoyed last year, two years ago.
Speaker 2: And then sometimes he'll get out there and he'll take
Speaker 2: a move.
Speaker 5: Ron Springs used to joke about beating Bill Bates in
Speaker 5: practice all the time. He talked about how he would
Speaker 5: take any move that I'd give him, and he said one.
Speaker 5: It's something, he said. All he's got to do is this,
Speaker 5: and Bill takes it. That's what happened with Donovan.
Speaker 4: Wilson evershok his head.
Speaker 5: I barely did. I I barely shook my head. That's
Speaker 5: the whole point. And that's what Kitler was doing. He's
Speaker 5: given them one move and Donovan's freezes. After a while,
Speaker 5: you have to be better at your skills to create
Speaker 5: better matchups.
Speaker 2: That's just facts.
Speaker 3: And then and then much of what San Francisco is
Speaker 3: doing is based on putting a guy in motion and
Speaker 3: and and detecting, which is what basically very basic stuff.
Speaker 2: He was. He was he was still that.
Speaker 5: Yeah that time, he was yeah. So now they the
Speaker 5: same thing. It's just they just moved him there.
Speaker 4: They got the ball at the four and as we
Speaker 4: could predict, the full back use check clear as a
Speaker 4: hole for Verando to get his first touchdown first in
Speaker 4: his career.
Speaker 2: From had three already, so then.
Speaker 3: That one he had, that one against Seattle, that was dumb.
Speaker 3: It was not a smart he thought he was being smart.
Speaker 3: Dumb and the other team and the other team has
Speaker 3: timeouts left, you don't slide down. Okay. Now in this case,
Speaker 3: it was smart because the other team, that's when he
Speaker 3: said that, got little of the scoreboard and if they
Speaker 3: got no timeouts left, then okay, he.
Speaker 2: Was pretty proud of himself.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, because on the next play you
Speaker 3: scheck scored and.
Speaker 2: Crazy. All right.
Speaker 3: So you go through the anatomy of a disaster.
Speaker 4: Starting at the eleven, all right, and so there you go.
Speaker 3: You're backed up, you're on eleven. Okay. San Francisco started
Speaker 3: their first possession at the fort. The Cowboys start at
Speaker 3: the eleven. Okay. Now it's third and four from the seventeen.
Speaker 3: And that was the ill advised interception.
Speaker 4: He's running to his left and he's still trying to
Speaker 4: throw the ball and he had no chance to make
Speaker 4: an accurate throw.
Speaker 5: Well, to me, one thing you don't do, you don't
Speaker 5: throw it short, right, I mean, you get it got
Speaker 5: to get it over the guy. I mean, it wasn't
Speaker 5: even close. See these reaching back just to break it up.
Speaker 4: And that's what happens though, when you're running to your
Speaker 4: left trying to throw, he's at that that was it
Speaker 4: was just a bad just a bad decisions.
Speaker 2: A bad decision and a bad throw.
Speaker 4: So now they get the ball at the Dallas thirty two.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what great field position.
Speaker 3: Party complete Gerendover twelve twelve, Samuel for three complete to
Speaker 3: Samuel for three, complete to Samuel for four. Party on
Speaker 3: third and three at the thirteen gets six yards.
Speaker 2: I think that's when I started watching sixty.
Speaker 3: Minutes first in Gold at the seven, Samuel for four
Speaker 3: and then a one yard pickup, and then it's the
Speaker 3: Kittle play, the pick play on third and goal at
Speaker 3: the two.
Speaker 4: I broke down bs.
Speaker 3: And now it's twenty to ten.
Speaker 2: It's pretty accurate.
Speaker 3: So then the Cowboys get the run game going though
Speaker 3: on the exposition and Iszik got six yards on first
Speaker 3: down and at that point, and at that point in
Speaker 3: the game he had seven carries for thirty five yards,
Speaker 3: averaging five yards of carry. He was yeah, incomplete, incomplete punt.
Speaker 4: Yep first and ten at the twenty five and.
Speaker 3: There kJ Henry in second and six kJ Henry man.
Speaker 3: He had that play snuffed out. If Perdy throws it
Speaker 3: to Debo, it's going to be a pick six. Perty
Speaker 3: sees kJ Henry there and cuts it upfield for sixteen
Speaker 3: yards and a first down, and next play twenty seven
Speaker 3: yards to Kittle.
Speaker 5: It's always so many, so much room and so many
Speaker 5: holes in our secondary. I bet they just feel so
Speaker 5: comfortable on offense all the time.
Speaker 3: And with thirty six seconds left in the third quarter,
Speaker 3: Perty scored to make it twenty seven to ten.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, all right. So here are your stats
Speaker 3: from the third quarter. Points were twenty one to nothing.
Speaker 3: Time of possession was eleven oh two to three point
Speaker 3: fifty eight. First downs were nine to nothing. Third down
Speaker 3: conversions they were five for five. Dallas was zero for
Speaker 3: two total yards one sixty seven to sixteen.
Speaker 4: One sixty seven after they had played decently the first.
Speaker 3: Half, after out playing them in the first half, and
Speaker 3: then that happens in the third quarter.
Speaker 5: Like I said, guys, forty nine ers are not a
Speaker 5: good team either. The game was actually boring when we
Speaker 5: were winning, and it wasn't just because oh, we're playing
Speaker 5: good defense.
Speaker 3: No, it was just when you're not a good team
Speaker 3: yet to win.
Speaker 5: Or least, yeah, we screwed up the least.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: And at one point in the game I wrote these down.
Speaker 4: They had plays of forty three, forty seven, nineteen, sixteen,
Speaker 4: and thirty nine. It was like six plays for one
Speaker 4: hundred and ninety four yards. Big plays, big plays.
Speaker 3: And which makes the total yards in the game, the
Speaker 3: Niners had four hundred and sixty nine total yards, two
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty three on the ground and two hundred
Speaker 3: plus pass to sixty passing and.
Speaker 4: He only needed eighteen completions and no turnovers. So in theirs,
Speaker 4: see if I got this right. In their four losses,
Speaker 4: posing quarterback completed twelve passes thirteen passes, eighteen and eighteen
Speaker 4: to beat them because they were running for a marathon.
Speaker 2: Well and those passes had long passes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like big plays.
Speaker 3: So but then the fourth quarter, by the and when
Speaker 3: we come back, Mickey will tell us why there is
Speaker 3: hope for the future.
Speaker 2: That is not what he is telling.
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Speaker 3: Today, Can we share what we just talked about?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Man, So, I was showing Mickey the video of Tyreek Stevenson,
Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears defensive back, who is taunting the fans,
Speaker 3: and why she didn't as the snap had already occurred
Speaker 3: in Jayden Daniels's back in the pocket scrambling around for
Speaker 3: thirteen seconds, and then he realizes that, oh the play,
Speaker 3: the play already.
Speaker 4: Skuys were almost to the twenty yard line before he realized.
Speaker 3: So then he runs over and he tips the ball
Speaker 3: to Noah Brown the game winning touchdown.
Speaker 5: So I said, I said, that is not the way
Speaker 5: they do things in Chicago because that's just not how
Speaker 5: they're coached.
Speaker 3: That's right. And so then I looked up and Tyreek Stevenson.
Speaker 2: I looked him up.
Speaker 3: I saw what college you went to and I said, oh,
Speaker 3: guess what college you went to?
Speaker 2: Said Missouri?
Speaker 3: And you said Missouri and I said that makes sense,
Speaker 3: but I said, no, if a player think of any
Speaker 3: college in America. And if a player is going to
Speaker 3: make a play like that, what college would you pick?
Speaker 3: And you said you and he went to the U.
Speaker 4: I was going to choose Oklahoma.
Speaker 5: I was going to say with plahom because the only
Speaker 5: reason but he was smiling too much, so I knew
Speaker 5: it was.
Speaker 3: Hey, just come full circle on this. The only reason
Speaker 3: that I looked him up was I was hoping that
Speaker 3: he went to Krambling.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I didn't even pick any HBC, not at all.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll tell you nobody.
Speaker 4: Nobody picked the Cowboys on the NBC pregame show.
Speaker 3: Including Jason Garrett. All right, so is there hope for
Speaker 3: the future after what happened in the fourth quarter? You know,
Speaker 3: think about uh, the same thing happened in the fourth
Speaker 3: quarter against Baltimore and then they go on the road.
Speaker 3: They never guide the Giants and won. They went on
Speaker 3: the road and they beat Pittsburgh Baltimore.
Speaker 4: They never stopped him to get the chance to get
Speaker 4: the ball back one more time. This time they did
Speaker 4: and it was just like a big tease as it
Speaker 4: ended up. Because if you remember, they started that fourth
Speaker 4: quarter third and five at the forty five, and that
Speaker 4: got sacked nobody. I wrote down nobody open and there was.
Speaker 2: Dude that was never.
Speaker 5: I mean, it seemed as if there were two men
Speaker 5: on each of our receivers. I don't know how many
Speaker 5: they had on defense out there, but I know the
Speaker 5: on the last play, the fourth down, it looked like
Speaker 5: everyone was double team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why am I calling us? For twelve minute on
Speaker 3: the field and it looks like they.
Speaker 2: Got everybody was double team.
Speaker 4: And then San Francisco gets the ball back at the
Speaker 4: seventeen and it's third and one and Digs deflects the
Speaker 4: ball on that rollout. It almost was an interception two.
Speaker 4: So they punt and there the Cowboys go first and
Speaker 4: ten at the thirty and promptly a false start by steal.
Speaker 3: Where are you in the game right now, fifty seven?
Speaker 3: You're earlier?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was starting from the I got from the beginning.
Speaker 4: And then it was like they got the PI on
Speaker 4: third and ten the guy wiped out Tobert and then
Speaker 4: they moved right down the field and score a touchdown,
Speaker 4: and it's like, okay, well, twenty seven seventeen not bad.
Speaker 3: And then they get still eight minutes left in the game, and.
Speaker 4: Then they get another well it wasn't a They got
Speaker 4: one first down and then it was a three and
Speaker 4: out and they forced a field goal, so that was encouraging.
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, because if you score a touchdown, it's
Speaker 4: thirty twenty four and then they get the was it
Speaker 4: the big play to Lamb?
Speaker 3: Well, there are three passes to Lamb twenty one, twenty nine,
Speaker 3: and twenty yards. It's seventy yards and four plays, and
Speaker 3: now with three and a half minutes left in the game,
Speaker 3: it's thirty to twenty four and then San Francisco goes
Speaker 3: three and out, including the over shown sack, which is
Speaker 3: a huge second and three.
Speaker 4: He's like shot out of cannon.
Speaker 5: That that's what I was talking about last week playing downhill.
Speaker 5: Wasn't he my pick to click guy?
Speaker 2: He was?
Speaker 3: I think he was?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, what he was?
Speaker 3: I think I want to see credit for that.
Speaker 2: Well, one player, Mike can Haven, was surping it.
Speaker 4: It almost happened.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: So now Cowboys get the ball back with three oh.
Speaker 4: Five left and did a nice job. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: the previous to hold them they sacked. That was the
Speaker 4: overshown sack, right, put them behind the chains third and twelve,
Speaker 4: and they chose to run the ball.
Speaker 3: They completed a pass for six yards, yeah, the blitz,
Speaker 3: and then they had punt. So Cowboys have it at
Speaker 3: the twenty five yard line first and ten three oh
Speaker 3: five left in the game. And it was almost an
Speaker 3: interception in the game.
Speaker 4: By one of two guys, one of about four guys.
Speaker 2: What is seen?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I have no idea where you're trying
Speaker 3: to get the ball too much to CD back and look.
Speaker 2: At that totally missed. Sorry.
Speaker 3: See, it's so important on those those drives like that
Speaker 3: where you got no timeouts. You got plenty of time
Speaker 3: though you got three minutes left, and you do have
Speaker 3: a time out because you got the two minute warning
Speaker 3: to play with too, where just matriculate down the field.
Speaker 3: You don't have to force anything, just dump it off
Speaker 3: to a running back whatever you got. In fact, someone
Speaker 3: asked me afterwards, was should you run the ball there?
Speaker 3: I'm like, you see us run the ball earlier.
Speaker 5: Sometimes the long handoff's help, you know. Don't don't give
Speaker 5: it to them now, just flare them out right away,
Speaker 5: you know. But when we have it, when we throw
Speaker 5: out to the flats, we wait so long and we
Speaker 5: give the defensive chance to react by the time that
Speaker 5: we get it out.
Speaker 3: There, like trying too hard to get vertical when you
Speaker 3: had plenty of time and just you can dink and
Speaker 3: dunk and then hit.
Speaker 2: Them and make them set the edge.
Speaker 4: And then the second, the second and ten place was incomplete.
Speaker 4: And I don't even know if the guy typing out
Speaker 4: the play by play knew who that pass went through
Speaker 4: because it says past incomplete short, right, did he just
Speaker 4: like I can't even remember because I didn't write down
Speaker 4: who it went to. I was thinking it away.
Speaker 3: He must have thrown it away, yeah, and then came.
Speaker 4: Passed to Turpin.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 2: That was that well, you could see, uh.
Speaker 4: And then but after the forth down right, you.
Speaker 5: Could see after the interception that you know, you could
Speaker 5: tell that they were upset about the interception, but they
Speaker 5: were saying you could see on the on Dak was
Speaker 5: talking to Turpin, I believe, and he they were looking
Speaker 5: at like, I'm coming back to that again, and they did.
Speaker 4: And they did, and he didn't get one right.
Speaker 5: That's what he said, man, that this is gonna work.
Speaker 5: I just the pressure came and you could see that
Speaker 5: they went overly upset.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I thought I was turning.
Speaker 4: This downness, gracious worse.
Speaker 3: Nate was trying to turn it down. I thought, since
Speaker 3: we were talking about specific plays, that I might want
Speaker 3: to go look at the plays, and so I'm calling
Speaker 3: it up now because nobody knew what we what to
Speaker 3: happen on the second down play, so I was thought
Speaker 3: I'd look it up and then trying to help the show.
Speaker 4: The fourth down play, Uh, that must have been the
Speaker 4: first target to Brooks and he really wasn't open. Although
Speaker 4: he fell down, he tried well, got nothing else. The
Speaker 4: sideline erupt.
Speaker 2: This guy was double This guy was double team. He
Speaker 2: was double team.
Speaker 3: Take your pick, man, And there were okay, I'm looking
Speaker 3: at on the first down play, there was a line
Speaker 3: of four forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: I said two there were.
Speaker 3: There were three of them in the line of Sidney
Speaker 3: in the window, all three exactly. There were There were
Speaker 3: three forty nine ers between DAK and CD, and then
Speaker 3: there was a fourth who was covering CD on the back.
Speaker 5: Exagerating, I think it was two and then the third.
Speaker 5: But yeah, let's go with let's go ahead.
Speaker 3: All right, let me show I'm going to show it
Speaker 3: to you just a second.
Speaker 2: I remember that, I remember the play.
Speaker 3: All right, second hold on, I got freezing at the
Speaker 3: right place.
Speaker 5: I asked my son, what you trying? Is he playing
Speaker 5: talking practice? And what's going on?
Speaker 3: All right, there's one two three in their CD.
Speaker 2: Oh man, uh yeah, that was weird, all right?
Speaker 3: So down the second down play, I got the condensed
Speaker 3: version here, so I'm running through it quickly.
Speaker 4: I Thinkay just threw it away.
Speaker 3: And it was a four man rush and he's flushed
Speaker 3: out to his right and he threw to the sideline
Speaker 3: where Ferguson was out of bounds and someone was guarding. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there was no There was just a Ferguson and a
Speaker 3: forty nine or they were both out of bounds. And
Speaker 3: then was the pass down the sideline to Turpen. What's
Speaker 3: the third because it was basically a scrambled girl and
Speaker 3: they pushed him out of bounds.
Speaker 2: I guess that's just lazy.
Speaker 3: So then on the fourth down, then flushed out to
Speaker 3: the right and.
Speaker 4: He must have been Brooks, and Brooks was double covered
Speaker 4: so he didn't have a shot.
Speaker 3: Well, and it was the issue was you had Bosa
Speaker 3: coming from the right his left.
Speaker 4: He had to unload it, and then you.
Speaker 3: Also had actually no, yeah, that's the previous play.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry. If I'm Ferguson, I gotta get open. I'm
Speaker 5: gotta get open. I shouldn't be standing out of bounds.
Speaker 5: I don't know why he's out of bound.
Speaker 4: Well because he got flushed over there and he probably
Speaker 4: finished his route.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, now you you scramble, scrambled, drill, you don't
Speaker 5: just stand out of bounds. You might as well, you know,
Speaker 5: make a play or just stop. I mean, they're both
Speaker 5: standing out of the bounds. That's not what he should be.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry he got.
Speaker 3: I watched it again, and uh, he ran and out
Speaker 3: and he got pushed out of bound. He was on
Speaker 3: the sideline, he got pushed out of bounce. Well it was.
Speaker 2: What I'll show.
Speaker 4: You only they only had the ball for twenty twenty
Speaker 4: two seconds.
Speaker 3: All right, it's coming.
Speaker 5: You know, this is my this is my tough guy.
Speaker 5: You know I need you back in bounds. He needs
Speaker 5: you back in bounds.
Speaker 3: So what do you tell me what you're saying?
Speaker 2: I saw him just ran route to the sideline.
Speaker 3: And then he got pushed out of bound.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, don't they pushed out of bounds. You know
Speaker 2: you're pretty strong guy, Pretty sure you can push back. Okay,
Speaker 2: and that was that.
Speaker 4: So tell me when you when they got the ball
Speaker 4: back with three h five, you were thinking, oh, this
Speaker 4: could happen.
Speaker 5: I was trying not to be optimistic. I really you know,
Speaker 5: I was trying not to be optimistic.
Speaker 2: Because it's too good to be true.
Speaker 5: Yeah. At this point that my daughter had just come
Speaker 5: home and she's like, oh my god, what just happened?
Speaker 2: Because she missed the whole third quarter driving home?
Speaker 3: Did she really yeah?
Speaker 2: About she?
Speaker 3: She thought the Cowboys won twenty four to nine.
Speaker 5: She thought we were getting dogged out because she missed
Speaker 5: the entire third. She missed the entire third. Yes, she
Speaker 5: missed the entire third.
Speaker 3: Which would have been Did she miss the twenty one
Speaker 3: and nothing run?
Speaker 2: See? She missed that one? But did she also?
Speaker 3: But she a scoreboard and she saw that it was
Speaker 3: twenty seven to ten when she came back. All right, okay,
Speaker 3: anything else from your legal pad before we wrap it up.
Speaker 4: M No McCarthy was we got to keep working, got
Speaker 4: to stop the run.
Speaker 3: Well, the Cowboys right now are in the same position
Speaker 3: San Francisco is in twenty four hours ago a three
Speaker 3: and four record, So.
Speaker 4: So now go The battle cry is we got to
Speaker 4: get to four and four.
Speaker 3: At Atlanta, a first place team home against Philadelphia, a
Speaker 3: second place team home against Houston, a first place team
Speaker 3: at Washington at first place.
Speaker 4: Yep, it ain't easy.
Speaker 3: So there you go.
Speaker 4: But there are ten games left.
Speaker 3: Ever since, looking at the schedule, are you counting.
Speaker 2: W's No, I'm looking at mountains and peaks all in
Speaker 2: front of us.
Speaker 4: No valleys, too many.
Speaker 3: Valleys, too many talking about mountains to climb.
Speaker 2: Well, can't wait for that, can't wait, giants.
Speaker 3: And then Carolina comes shortly after that. I don't know.
Speaker 3: So there's your run right there. Wow, that's why you
Speaker 3: get This is the most critical stretch right here. You
Speaker 3: got to get to Thanksgiving around five hundred, right, and
Speaker 3: then you make your run.
Speaker 2: And you better hope that the commanders hit.
Speaker 3: The low first thing you need. You need Mike and
Speaker 3: Micah back on the field in Atlanta on Sunday. Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, and we'll talk about it again tomorrow here on.
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