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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff live right

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot com. John Schmelt, Jeff Eagles with

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Speaker 1: you the phone numbers two, five on three, hashtag Giants Chat,

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Speaker 1: taking your calls in your tweets as you move forward

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot Hi, John, Hi, Jeff. How are

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Speaker 1: you well coming off? That could be a little bit better? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And and we'll get to that game in a second.

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Speaker 1: But there was some news at Pat Chremer's press conference

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Speaker 1: today which frankly caught Meat by surprise a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Did he basically, I don't have the quotes in front

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Speaker 1: of me because we have not published a transcript yet,

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Speaker 1: but he basically said that after starting ohen two, UM,

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Speaker 1: you take a look at every position and every player

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Speaker 1: on the roster moving forward. And he did not exclude

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position from that discussion, and and did not

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Speaker 1: commit the Eli Manning being the starting quarterback in week

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Speaker 1: number three, which obviously is going to dominate conversation now

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Speaker 1: for the next forty eight or so hours. He said

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Speaker 1: he would know exactly what they're gonna do when they

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Speaker 1: take the practice field on Wednesday. Wednesday's press conference, I

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Speaker 1: believe or at least it has been at eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 1: It might be a little bit before that, a little

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Speaker 1: bit later this week because of a new schedule. But

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Speaker 1: that's when we'll have a definitive a word on that.

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Speaker 1: You think will He said we would, He said we would.

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Speaker 1: Why would you say anything, I mean from Tampa. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna. I wouldn't let Tampa know who's playing quarterback. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, well we'll see what they actually do. It

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Speaker 1: would not It would not surprise me. You guys a

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Speaker 1: MODI on your computer, Jeff, can that for me? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. It's a nice you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: hear anything. Yeah, you know, you know we have use

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Speaker 1: some nice NFL Prime Time user going on in the background.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Chris Berman and the music Tom Jackson's

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Speaker 1: gonna come on and start like you know. By the way,

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Speaker 1: did you see that they're back on NFL Prime Time?

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Speaker 1: They are on on ESPN Plus, which is cool. Do

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Speaker 1: you think about that? I love it. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: those are my guys. I grew up with those I

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Speaker 1: grew up with those guys too. They were awesome. I

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Speaker 1: used to that used to be appointment Sunday evening television.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you know what I mean to get

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Speaker 1: off this separ because much but so the guy you know,

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Speaker 1: when we play there, we didn't get to watch football

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Speaker 1: on Sunday NFL Prime Time, was are kind of yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the way we watched catch up on what happened

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Speaker 1: during the day. Anyway, So we have that topic. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know it's hard. Um. By the way, it would

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Speaker 1: not surprise me if Eli is still the quarterback in

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Speaker 1: Week three. There's a good chance that this is just

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Speaker 1: one of those look we're into. Every player gets put

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Speaker 1: onto the microscope. We're gonna look at everybody and the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks included, and it's just kind of like tired of

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Speaker 1: the questions. So that could be the case. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. Eli spoke to the media today.

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Speaker 1: All that will be on giants dot com. Make sure

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Speaker 1: you check it out. But that's where we are with that.

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Speaker 1: If you want to call up and talk about it, sure,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what we're gonna be able to tell

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Speaker 1: you because it's just landed our laps, just like it

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Speaker 1: did everybody else. So feel free to call up and

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Speaker 1: we can discuss. But I would like what we've been saying.

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Speaker 1: I'd be very surprised if anything happened in September. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you know, obviously i'd be less surprised

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Speaker 1: now after today's press conference, I guess. But but I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm not going to alter my position on

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Speaker 1: on a whim like that. I am not either. I

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Speaker 1: told you we we talked about this Friday, okay, and

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Speaker 1: it's like we're gonna see what happens is gonna happen, John,

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Speaker 1: But you know you understand kind of what's going on here, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean every week you're getting closer to what's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen eventually if this team continues to play like this,

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Speaker 1: really and when you look at the situation, you can't

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Speaker 1: but think that, you know, do you want to waste

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Speaker 1: the whole season of of not having Daniel Jones play?

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Speaker 1: I mean, at some point you're gonna have to do something, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, call a spade a spade. It is

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Speaker 1: didn't think he was bad either. I thought he was

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Speaker 1: okay um, but he played. But he played against a

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Speaker 1: it was pretty simple. I think we even said it

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Speaker 1: the Bills put up twenty eight and they scored twenty

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Speaker 1: one in the first half. They had three straight drives,

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Speaker 1: two hundred fifty yards passing at halftime on fifteen of twenty.

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Speaker 1: They have two hundred and sixty or two hundred seventy

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Speaker 1: settled down a little bit in the second half, but

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Speaker 1: again the Giants cutten. All the defense need to do

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Speaker 1: they couldn't do that, and it turned and then that

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Speaker 1: was pretty much all she wrote. So, you know, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: the defense again, to me, was the bigger issue. We

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Speaker 1: just didn't think the problem would go this deep. And

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Speaker 1: again in the first half, some of those drives were

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Speaker 1: just too easy. That that third touchdown drive in the

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Speaker 1: first half of the Bills they never even got to

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Speaker 1: a third down. You can't have that. They'd all first

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Speaker 1: on that drive. The Giants on their first drive never

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Speaker 1: this was the eleven drive, eleven play, seventy yard with

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Speaker 1: they converted on that drive alone, which was in UM.

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Speaker 1: This would be early second quarter, UM, really early second

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Speaker 1: third and tent I've ever seen for some reason, right

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Speaker 1: for some reason that we don't know, there's that that

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Speaker 1: why are we you know, why these guys playing such

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure we'll get a lot of calls

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Speaker 1: about that. UM defensively, Listen, I on our postgame show

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Speaker 1: in the Coaches Club. Yesterday we were all over this subject,

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Speaker 1: the best thing I can tell you about how how

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Speaker 1: We know that it's it's new to them about their preparation.

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing about players in games young guys is

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Speaker 1: that when they think about DeAndre Baker in college, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's in the Southeast Conference, he's Georgia. He is the man, right,

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Speaker 1: these things like this happened to him. He was a

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Speaker 1: whole year without giving up a touchdown. This is new

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Speaker 1: right now. So the only thing that's going to get

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Speaker 1: issue for him, he's swimming and he's indecisive. Is he's

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Speaker 1: not sure what to do. It's not a confidence, it's

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Speaker 1: And and again we we thought last year, like Lorenzo

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Speaker 1: he's not playing fast enough. That was his quote. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, because he's thinking too much. So

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Speaker 1: have to get used to this guy's because Corey Valentine

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Speaker 1: a small school. I'm not too sure that he they're

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Speaker 1: it is. But it's gonna drive you and I to

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Speaker 1: lose all of our hair. We don't have much left. No,

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Speaker 1: we don't have much left, and I think it drives

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Speaker 1: a lot of the other guys crazy too. But um,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you that I've been watching football, and

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Speaker 1: I know you have too a long time. I have

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Speaker 1: not seen back to back game were a cornerback from

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Speaker 1: the first round guy that the Giants went up to

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Speaker 1: get play something like this. There's usually a US there's

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Speaker 1: somebody that usually will make a play in there to

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Speaker 1: kind of bring you back down to like, wow, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I guess that was just kind of an anomal There's

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Speaker 1: nothing here that's making me believe that he's playing decently

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Speaker 1: at all. None. And the Bills were clearly in the

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Speaker 1: first half going after him. Yes, it was clear Yeah,

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Speaker 1: offensively to switch shides real quick. You're now understanding how

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Speaker 1: the loss of Golden Tate has hurt this team and

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Speaker 1: will and Stone Shepherd by the Shepherd, because Golden Tage

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Speaker 1: he's you know, he's your third down guy that's gonna

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Speaker 1: make those plays and get yardage and things like that. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: this offense was him being brought in was to help

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Speaker 1: this offense, and now they're struggling. They're struggling in the

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Speaker 1: red zone. They're struggling to make third downs and it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's in there. Listen. Benny Fowler got the

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Speaker 1: I mean right in his hands and that one. And

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Speaker 1: and really for me, Jeff, where this with the offense,

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Speaker 1: I guess lost the game is what I'll say. It

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Speaker 1: might be a little strong, but whatever. End of the

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Speaker 1: a penalty in last hit again, no argument, no argument.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what gets me. You want to say, well,

428
00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,640
Speaker 1: he didn't get hit hard enough, But then they call

429
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Speaker 1: it tick tack this week. That's that they're not being

430
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,520
Speaker 1: They're not being you know what I mean. Even the

431
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Speaker 1: announcer said it would call it tikie tack, you know, right,

432
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 1: So disgusting defense. I have to say something. The defense

433
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,240
Speaker 1: did put pressure some pressure on the first half. They

434
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 1: were way out of it, but they did least get

435
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Speaker 1: some sacks and put some pressure on. Now going on here,

436
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna like what I have to stay here. Okay, Now,

437
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 1: the receivers, you know what we lost. Minds will say

438
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 1: we lost our first five receivers. Really with the speed

439
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 1: guy we lost earlier and uh tad out on suspension

440
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 1: and um just you know really, uh we did lose

441
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 1: about five of them and you could see yesterday. Uh

442
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 1: some of them routes were Eli had to throw the

443
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 1: ball and the guy just wasn't even there. The guy

444
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,679
Speaker 1: we brought back, you know, j right right, so you

445
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 1: can see. And it's not fair to Eli there too.

446
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,719
Speaker 1: And our defense is gonna take time because I, like

447
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 1: I said a show or two ago, I do recall

448
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 1: the defense when we want it back. In what was

449
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 1: the year that we're in Spagnolah first came in. We

450
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 1: were we gave up eighty eight points the first two

451
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Speaker 1: games and you know, getting Hill. But that was a

452
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,919
Speaker 1: veteran team and uh, I just don't you know, we

453
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Speaker 1: have a lot of young guys and now we have

454
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Speaker 1: a new defensive back coach and everything. So it's you know,

455
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: just like the offensive line came around and we had

456
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,120
Speaker 1: to get some new key players in there and the

457
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 1: younger players needed their time. It's gonna take the same

458
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: thing with the defense. Just be patient. But what I'm

459
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: saying to you where he said, well, everybody's uh, anybody

460
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: could lose their position. I thought Eli played a great

461
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 1: game again yesterday. But I'm just being fair to him

462
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: and looking at the Giants on the whole and everything.

463
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 1: If if you see yesterday around the league, Uh, the

464
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 1: Steelers lost their quarterbacks, Jacksonville lost their quarterback last week.

465
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Speaker 1: There's a few others. We don't know where I'm going

466
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Speaker 1: with this to ask, and I'd go to Eli personally,

467
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 1: you don't have to put up with this pook here.

468
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: If we can get you in a place that has

469
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Speaker 1: a decent defense and offense and they're a playoff team,

470
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Speaker 1: would you want to go? And it's the lot He

471
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Speaker 1: don't want to then that that was up to him. Yeah,

472
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Speaker 1: I'm just what I'm saying. The way we're heading with

473
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Speaker 1: this stuff, we're gonna have more injuries and stuff. It

474
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Speaker 1: ain't he ain't gonna look good, and they're gonna bring

475
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 1: Daniel in anyway because they want to know about him.

476
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Speaker 1: If we keep having all these losses, we're gonna be

477
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Speaker 1: up there on top. And do we want to draft

478
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Speaker 1: another quarterback next year? You don't want to hear this stuff,

479
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 1: but it's it's reality, RIGHTO. I'm just saying for the

480
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: better the Giants team and that I would go to

481
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Speaker 1: Eli person because he has I guess the no trade content.

482
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Speaker 1: So if he'd want to and he'd going to a

483
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: place like that, I would be right out and there's

484
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: no whatever about it. Be better for him, better for

485
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Speaker 1: the Giants if you want to stay fine, got it, Joe,

486
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Speaker 1: Thank you for the always good to hear from you.

487
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: Um again, I don't think you like played poorly in

488
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Speaker 1: the game. I thought he was fine. You know again,

489
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: the Bills have a good defense. Uh, they had a

490
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: couple of knockways. He shouldn't have thrown the ball at

491
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Speaker 1: the end of the game on the interception. There was

492
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Speaker 1: a safety deep on that place. Should and thrown that

493
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Speaker 1: ball all but we've seen that so many times. But again,

494
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Speaker 1: you're your your two touchdowns down, You're trying to make

495
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Speaker 1: a play. So I'm not gonna lose my mind. Let's

496
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Speaker 1: talk about that throw for just a second from somebody

497
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: like that's just going to show you that Heli is

498
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: trying to win, right, He's not gonna he's not caring

499
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: about a statistic of having an interception in that situation.

500
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Speaker 1: How many guys would say I'm not do you know?

501
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: Janie and Jones gonna be coming. I gotta put up

502
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: an interception here. You know that it means something, it

503
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: really does. I'm telling you the guy, The guy's a competitor.

504
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Speaker 1: That's why I don't think that the scenario that Joe

505
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Speaker 1: just brought up. Whatever happened, but never say never, right? Um?

506
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: Uh it's uh, let's stick in Pennsylvania. Say what's up

507
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: to John? It's all broken by Coors Light entered when

508
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Speaker 1: the Ultimate v I P Game Day Experience courtesy of

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510
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Speaker 1: six four for more details. What's up John? Hell? What's

511
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: going on? Guys? What's going on? What's up? Watch two games?

512
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: Just some observations. Uh, it just feels like we don't

513
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Speaker 1: have the town or experience to compete. Um, are you

514
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: talking specifically defensively? Are you doing specifically on defensive? I

515
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: mean I think both. I mean, look at the weapons

516
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: that Eli has to work with when shepherds out. You know,

517
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: we don't have the deaths Now Golden Tape is gonna

518
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: come back I think in two weeks. But even then,

519
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: you know, I do you have a true number one

520
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: like an Odell back from But John, honestly, in my opinion.

521
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: But John, in my opinion, if you have Shepherd, Tate, Ingram,

522
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Speaker 1: and Barkley on the field, you have more than enough

523
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Speaker 1: weapons to have a good offense. You really do, you

524
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Speaker 1: really do, in my opinion, you don't have to have

525
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: You don't have to have a number one wide receiver

526
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Speaker 1: to be a great team. You don't need that. A

527
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Speaker 1: lot of teams don't have like a number one, like

528
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Speaker 1: a you know, Julio Jones or An Odell. I mean,

529
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Speaker 1: they have a number one, but it's not that category.

530
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: It's not that good of one. I mean, Philip Rivers

531
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: has put up good numbers forever. Uh Keenan Allen's had

532
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: a couple of number one sq years, but I wouldn't

533
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Speaker 1: put him in that Julio Jones category. Obviously of Tom Brady,

534
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: he's a different category on his own. But I don't think.

535
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Speaker 1: You know, the Eagles don't have a classic number one

536
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: why receiver and they do just fine. And you know what,

537
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: to be honest, even when we did have Odell, we

538
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: were losing. That's also true, I mean to be fair.

539
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: So I'm just curious, and I think Jeff, you might

540
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: have touched on this a little bit. Do you think

541
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: the least you know. I know before people had made

542
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Speaker 1: comments to say, when we're mathematically out, they put Jones

543
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: and I was great. But looking at this team, we

544
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: were in a rebuilding here and that's fine. But if

545
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: we go going for one in three, I mean, don't

546
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Speaker 1: you think it's time to give Daniel Jones a look

547
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: at that point? Well, you have to ask the question, Well, listen,

548
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Speaker 1: I think it's a very fair question, and I think

549
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Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself from an organizational standpoint, is

550
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Speaker 1: that what's my intent? Am I going to make the

551
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: playoffs at one in four? At two and five? Well,

552
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: the question, I think, what, Jeff, do you think a

553
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: move to Daniel Jones signals in the locker room? Does

554
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: it signal that we're trying to make a change and

555
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: do everything we can to win, or does it signal

556
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: know we're more worried about the future and not worried

557
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: about winning. Now, what do you think, as a former player,

558
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: what would that move signal to the rest of the

559
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: guys in the locker room? Because I do think that's important.

560
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's I think it would

561
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: signal that we're trying to move in the right direction

562
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: this year or down in the road this year. And

563
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: you know what, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be surprised.

564
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: And I know, listen, I love Eli to death. You

565
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: know that he's been my team with my teammate for

566
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: a long time. He's literally one of absolutely But I

567
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: will tell you that I wouldn't be surprised if there's

568
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in the locker room that want

569
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones to play. Who knows, I mean, they're young guy. Yeah,

570
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer. But but and the reason

571
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Speaker 1: I set that up is because he lies an old guy, right,

572
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: I mean, but I mean that he's an old an

573
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Speaker 1: old guy. You know. So you've got Daniel Jones, he's

574
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: just like all the rest of those guys. And there

575
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: he's a young guy, young whipper snapper that came into

576
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: the league with each other. They've seen him play in preseason.

577
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: They can relate to him a little bit more. That's

578
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: what I'm getting at, as far as that that kind

579
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: of of a move that you never know, it could

580
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: be the guys who really would say, yeah, I love it,

581
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: let's get him in there. But the fact that you

582
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: can't not look at the success of Eli Manning for

583
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: one second. You have to understand the guy is just

584
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer, so you kind of want

585
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 1: him to be still being there if you're gonna if

586
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: he can win you football games. But even if he's

587
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: playing the way that he is and the defense plays

588
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: the way that they do, he'll never win you football games.

589
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, and I agree, And I think in

590
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: that scenario you should play Daniel Jones just to get

591
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: him experienced. In my opinion, well, I think that listen,

592
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: that there's something, there's gonna be a point in time

593
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: when that decision is going to be made, and I

594
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: think that you have to realize that if you want

595
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: to throw away a whole year and you have to

596
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: and go, you know, three and thirteen again with no

597
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones, and then you're gonna have to go

598
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: put him in as a rookie next year. So they're

599
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: talking like we have already put him in one out

600
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: of two games so far. So they want to get

601
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: him some reps. It's just a matter of how much

602
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: and when, right, Yeah, yeah, no, that's fair, that's fair.

603
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: And I'll say this on just some optimism, I will say,

604
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, the last year was alve about the offensive

605
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: line rebuilding that he looks so much better than it

606
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: has the past five or six years, it really has.

607
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: And if he can fix and when I say he Getleman,

608
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: if he can fix the defense, you know, if Daniel

609
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: Jones can come through. I know that's a lot of this,

610
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: but you know we could have a team here. And

611
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: I give Gettleman four years to see what the team

612
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: is honestly compared to what we had prior to Gettleman. Well,

613
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: look at that. He went out and fixing problem, right,

614
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: I mean, and I agree with you. Last year, John

615
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: and I would be watching the game in the booth

616
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: or wherever it was, and we would be like, these

617
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: guys are so bad, right, Oh my gosh. I mean,

618
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: they can't block their way out of a paper bag,

619
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: for God's sakes, I mean, what is going on here?

620
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: The guys are running free and they're hitting. Knely Is

621
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: sacked times. You know. Now it's like there's some assemblance

622
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: to it. It's like it's looking like an offensive line.

623
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: Now is that where the defense is? Are are we

624
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: saying this about the defense now that we said about

625
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: the offensive line last year? And can it get fixed.

626
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: Can these guys get better? By the way, the defense

627
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: is a heck of a lot younger than that offensive

628
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: line ever was they are they are look at how

629
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: many rookies are on this team, and the offensive line

630
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: actually is actually a fairly veteran group. Other than Will Hernandez,

631
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: these guys are all, you know, twenty seven years older

632
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: or more. Hal Appeal is actually almost thirty. People don't

633
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: realize that because he hasn't played a ton, but he's,

634
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: you know, twenty seven plus. Also, Paul brought up something

635
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: in our pros game yesterday that I not did not

636
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: realize that there's eight rookies on the team this year. Okay,

637
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: and I think total rook tis second year players and

638
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: under there's twenty two. That sounds about right. Twenty two

639
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: out of fifty three guys from two years and less experience.

640
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: That's that's young. And by the way, then even if

641
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: you look at a guy like Antonio Hamilton, who has

642
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: been the league four years, he's played all thirty defensive snaps,

643
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: so he's a guy I wouldn't be in that group,

644
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: but he's somebody that has very little experience. How many

645
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver snaps is Cody core Taken, even though he's

646
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: been the league for three years, not a ton. How

647
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: many wide receiver stamps is you know, Benny fat Taking,

648
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: he did do a nice job. Even catching the football.

649
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: He did absolutely, So those are just the things you

650
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: look at and look, I'm not to the point here,

651
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: we're at oh and two, I'm gonna start talking about

652
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: next year's draft class and talking about it. I'm not

653
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 1: doing it yet. I'm sorry, I can't. I can't do it.

654
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: I will. I will happily do that in in December

655
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: or end of November or whatever. If we're sitting or

656
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: end of October and there's no wins, fine, that's okay,

657
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: I get it. Fine, I'm not doing it at all.

658
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: And too, I'm not there yet, and I don't think

659
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: the team's there yet either. That's why you know, I

660
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: came into everyone's oh, you gotta do this. Yeah, the

661
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: season is over. Guys. The way the mentality of a

662
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: coach and his players go after over after games in

663
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: a sixteen game season, I understand it's frustrating for fans,

664
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: and you get upset, you get emotional. I get it.

665
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: That's not how they can operate inside the building. It's

666
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: just two games, and no, are they gonna go fourteen

667
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: in two this year and win the next fourteen? No?

668
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: But can they get to the point here where you're

669
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: around five hundred at the bye and then you know,

670
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: we'll see whatever happens in the second half of the year. Yeah,

671
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: is that impossible at this point? No, But you gotta

672
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: get it fixed, and you gotta get it fixed fast. Well.

673
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: I think that you know, the defense holding you know this,

674
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: This team wasn't a great offense, right, twenty eight points was,

675
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: you know? But I think that when the offense gets

676
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: healthy and the and the players are back again, you know,

677
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: you name those those receivers and tight ends and running backs,

678
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: that combination of skill set is very good. And I

679
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: know by the way that the Bucks have played good

680
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: defense this year, they're not on the same level as

681
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: the Bills and the Cowboys. So this Giants offense needs

682
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: to put up twenty four next week. They have to

683
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: because I think the Bucks are probably gonna score some

684
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: points here. So the Giants you have to put up

685
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: thirty points. I think if they want to win next week.

686
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: The one thing you have to worry about the Giants,

687
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: and we talked about this. I think I know with

688
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: with you on front of it, you know, if you

689
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: want to wake up that sleeping giant and and um

690
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. I mean, here's a guy who's got a

691
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: new coach, he's learning a new system. There's there's gonna

692
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: be a game where this guy just all of a

693
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: sudden breaks out were you solely did against the Giants

694
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: in the second half of their game last year. You

695
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: are brought back single handedly a team that was behind.

696
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: Is Ryan Fitzpatricks, who a ba jillion interceptions in the

697
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: first half of that game. He still throwing up the children. Listen.

698
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: He's a guy that you know he'll make big play

699
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: and you also know he'll make dumb Playright, You only

700
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: live once, Jeff. That is Ryan Fitzpatrick's motto to four

701
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: five on three. Let's go to us Brian and Lanta

702
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: online for their Pierce and Brian, what's up? What's hell? Guys? Um?

703
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: I personally believe I think it's time to move on

704
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,239
Speaker 1: from Eli Manning and go to Daniel Jones. I know

705
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: Eli has not been playing that bad these past few games,

706
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: but I can just you can just tell that the

707
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: offense can't really do that much. It's really been vanilla.

708
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: They'll stack the ball and can snake on and they'll

709
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: the defense will say ELI trying beeB and they know

710
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: Eli is not gonna beat them. I personally think the

711
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: team has a better chance of winning with Daniels there

712
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: because coming into the season, we all knew that the

713
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: Giants were in a soft rebuild. They weren't going to

714
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. They aren't contenders, but they will. They

715
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: do have some upside. That's why I personally believe Daniel

716
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: Jones should start week uh we three. If not, come

717
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: in for the second half and hands are down by

718
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: to two touchdowns and on Sunday, okay, what's you put

719
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: on the defense? The defense? I want to know why

720
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence is only playing the snaps and why Julian

721
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: Love and Corney and Valentine aren't getting the reps. I

722
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: know there might be seeing something in practice that's not good,

723
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: but what's going on to deal with that insane with

724
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: DeAndre Bakers it was a press covers cornerback and he

725
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: didn't been playing any press covery. Well, no, no, no,

726
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: but let me ask you on the deep past to

727
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: Mark Cooper and Michael gallup in the Dallas game. What

728
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: kind of covers was Deandrey Baker playing? Man? Was playing

729
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: press man? Now, he completely blew the press coverage at

730
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, but he was lined up in

731
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: press man on those two plays. This week, they did

732
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: not put him in press man because I'm guessing because

733
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: he had the issues he did in week number one.

734
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: But that's Baker. Do you want Julian Love to play

735
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 1: corner or say fifty, I personally want him to safety.

736
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: So you want him playing for who? I'm sorry, who

737
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: do you want him to play instead of play and

738
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: put it? Just give him reps in the fourth quarter

739
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: if they're down. Okay, that's fine. And you know what,

740
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: if they wanted to put Balentine in there for Baker

741
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: this week a little bit, that's fine. But Balentine's lot

742
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: of slot guy. So if you're playing Gory Balentine, you're

743
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: either bench in DeAndre Baker or you're bench in Gener's Jenkins.

744
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: So those are your options. Okay, then what about That's

745
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: a good question. I don't have an answer for it.

746
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: He played around thirty snaps this week, thirty five. I

747
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: think it was b J. Hill and Tomlinson played around fifty,

748
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: so he's still playing underneath those two guys. I do

749
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: not have an answer for you on that one. Uh

750
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: And coach, given what happened with the quarterbacks today, was

751
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: not asked that question. But um, we'll see if we

752
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: can get some information on that later in the week

753
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: for you. But I do not have an answer for

754
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: that one. Okay, cool? And what do you guys think

755
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: about the playbook being vanilla with many other I don't

756
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: think that's correct. Um. I appreciate the call, thanks a lot.

757
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what you whether or not the playbooks

758
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: to vanilla because Eli Manning is the quarterback. I hate

759
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: to tell you guys just because Daniel, Just because Daniel

760
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: Jones can run the playbook, man a should be simplified

761
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: if he becomes a quarterback. It's not gonna get more complicated.

762
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: When you bring in a rookie playing his first NFL game, Well,

763
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: there'll be more options to run different plays with with

764
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: with him because he can get outside the bogging and

765
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: make some plays. But they've wrote Eli Manning out though. Yeah,

766
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: but I mean I'm saying that in terms of like

767
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: read options and things like that. Sure, but in terms

768
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: of doing complicated reads and doing a lot of different things,

769
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: Like the playbook is not gonna get Like playbook is

770
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 1: not gonna get bigger because Daniel Jones is the quarterback.

771
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: You might be able to do some different things, but

772
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: like the volume and the you know, those types of

773
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: things is not gonna change. But don't you agree the

774
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: playbook needs to get a little bit more of Vanillah

775
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: On defense, maybe kind of simplify that just a little bit.

776
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: I could see that. I would not if you want to,

777
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: because it seems like sometimes these guys are out there

778
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: thinking a little bit too much, right, so I think

779
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you need to. Again, I'm not a defensive coach.

780
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: I always hesitated to get into play calling and stuff

781
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: like that because it's, frankly, I think beyond what a

782
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: lot of people. People think they understand that part of

783
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: the game, but they really don't, which makes me hesitate

784
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 1: to talk about it because I'm not in those meeting

785
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: room to call and plays and stuff like that. It

786
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: makes it hard, But look, I you have to do something.

787
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: There are too many what I will call fundamental breakdowns

788
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: on defense where guys are just running free and nobody's

789
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: near him. And those are the things that you just

790
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: can't have happen. M No, I mean absolutely. And I

791
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: heard Carl Banks talking about on the pro Scam Show

792
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: yesterday and and I remember hitting, not hitting, but tapping

793
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: Paul Totino on the shoulder yesterday, and Bobby should have.

794
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: He was miserable by the way you could have used it.

795
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: And I said to him, I said, I don't know

796
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: what DeAndre Baker is doing there. He he went to

797
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: the inside to cover the guy running up the middle,

798
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: and he totally turned his back on the guy that

799
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: was running the steam route down. I mean it was

800
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: to go route. It was like crazy. He was playing

801
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: cover three. His responsibility is the sideline, and he left

802
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: the sideline the cover guy running up the seam. I've

803
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: never Jeff, I've never seen that list. The only thing

804
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: I could say there is it we all of a sudden,

805
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: he just saw that that he was the closest guy

806
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: in the safety wasn't taking him. Josh Allen was looking

807
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: at the guy down the seam. But still, I mean,

808
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: that's just not the responsibility. No, it's not. Dexter Lawrence

809
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: has played sixty two snaps in the last two games.

810
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: There you go four, five, one three. Back to the phones.

811
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: Let's say, what's up to Scott? New Mexico. He's up next?

812
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: What's up Scott? Hey, guys, how you doing today? Scott?

813
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: How are you doing today? That's the big thing. Not great,

814
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: but I frankly it's not my main point. But I

815
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 1: frankly don't care who plays quarterback. Jeff, you can suit

816
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: up and play quarterback. I will not do that today.

817
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: I doubt that really, but hey, if they want to

818
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 1: pay me to play quarterback, I'll do it for a game.

819
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: I'd be sore for a month for that. Uh. My

820
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: main focus. And I brought up to you John a

821
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, is and I know we talked

822
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: about it. Uh, we're repeating the same mistakes from game

823
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: to game as far as the secondary is concerned. And

824
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: that's the thing that's again, is most alarming to me.

825
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: How's that, Scott? What what mistakes do you are identical?

826
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: Besides the basic leaving guys wide open? And it means

827
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: I don't know how many players. Again, they had over

828
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: twenty completions. But just because it's a completion over twenty

829
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: yards doesn't mean it's the same mistake. Yeah, but but John,

830
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: you have a cornerback that did it ever occur to

831
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: anybody that potentially DeAndre Baker is not good enough to

832
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: play the position, and that I know on a run

833
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: play he couldn't even get off the block. In regards

834
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: to I think it was Singletary that ran into the

835
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: end zone. He was locked onto the buffalo playering and

836
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: couldn't disengage. The same thing happened with Jabrill Peppers on

837
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: another run. I think it was Mackenzie. Neither one could

838
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: get off their blocks to to do that, and so

839
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: there's a weakness in the secondary which is causing the

840
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: Giants to lose football games. That's not the only thing, Scott. Scott,

841
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: that's a different point than what you made in your

842
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: first statement. But if you can't cover it complicates the

843
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: issues and no one Scott, that's fine. What Scott, If

844
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: your argument is that they should have sat Baker down

845
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: and given Valentine a shot, I get that argument, and

846
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: that's fine. That's your opinion. I get that, But that's

847
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: a different than saying they're making the same mistake over

848
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: and over again. Becuse I can explain in detail to

849
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: you what each mistake was on each play and they're

850
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: not the same, right, But but but the overall end

851
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: result is that the Giants aren't playing good in the secondary.

852
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: That's the end result from game game. So if the

853
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 1: circumstance has changed because of teams and you're not repeating

854
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: the same mistake, how do you correct that kind of thing?

855
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: That's the thing that I'm not interested in lambasting the

856
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: Giant secondary and say, hey, you know they're terrible. But

857
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: the real key is how do you fix it if

858
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: you see the same if you see variations of the

859
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: same thing happening game to games, And that's fair, and

860
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: that it's got that's fair. And I think it's a

861
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: combination of the coaches putting the players in the best

862
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: position possible and then more importantly, the players executing what

863
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: they're supposed to execute on the field. And I think

864
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: the question you can get to is if the players

865
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: you've out there can execute it, at what point do

866
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: you decide to make some type of change? Right? And

867
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: that's really my point. I'm not trying to argue with

868
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: you they're making mistakes. I'm saying we need to correct

869
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: the mistakes if we're going anywhere at all this season.

870
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: And I really think that it's up to the to

871
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: the coaching staff to recognize they're either not putting people

872
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: in the right position or the people on the field

873
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: simply can't play the posi issue, And that's something you

874
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: have to acknowledge at some point if you're going to

875
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: move forward and hope to have a winning team at

876
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: some point. I'm not saying it's going to happen on automatically,

877
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: but they have to correct the issues in the secondary. Again,

878
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: I think it's important to if you want to sit

879
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: down deanday Baker for a half or even a game,

880
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: that's not acknowledging that he's never going to be a

881
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: good corner either. That just means maybe he needs a

882
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: little bit of a break to settle down, get his

883
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: head on straight to eventually come back and play better.

884
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: And you go back to two thousand and seven, Corey

885
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: Webster was benched and deactivated for a game or two

886
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: during that year, and then he eventually came back and

887
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,959
Speaker 1: and was a big part of that Super Bowl team.

888
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: So yes, I get where you're coming from that and

889
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: that would be one way to approach it, which bright away.

890
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: Remember Corey Webster was a press corner in college too,

891
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: and they started him off playing a lot of zone

892
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: defense and he was out of his element too. So

893
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: my last point, i'll take it off the air is

894
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: um So far as the statistics, the Giants right now

895
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: giving up thirty one points a game and rank this

896
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: is going to sound. Their offense is accumulated about yards

897
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: so far in two games. That ranks them eleventh, which

898
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: is crazy because I guess a lot of the yardages

899
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: after garbage time when it really doesn't matter. Nobody, no, Scott,

900
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: here's the thing, it's not The Giants didn't have a

901
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: ton of garbage times yards against Bills, and against the

902
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: Cowboys they had one drive that went first touchdown in

903
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: garbage time. The problem is that A well you're yeah,

904
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,479
Speaker 1: well you aren't converting third downs and you aren't getting

905
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: into the end zone when you do get down the field.

906
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: So they've actually moved the ball, okay, which is why

907
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't get everyone's obsession with play calling and Barkley

908
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: touches in the offense, because they're actually are moving the ball.

909
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: All right? Is it great? Note? But is it okay? Yeah,

910
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: it's okay, it's good enough. Like if you told me

911
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: the Giants were eleventh in yardage at the end of

912
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: the season. On offense, I'd be like, all right, that's

913
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: a pretty dawn good year. Okay, we're good to go.

914
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: That's why, to me, everyone wants to talk about offense. Offense, offense, offense.

915
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: This is a defensive problem that's making them lose these games.

916
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: Finish up, Scott, what's your last point? Okay? Well, the

917
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 1: last point is basically, they're averaging fifteen points a game

918
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: approximately right now, and that is the necessary things they're

919
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: going to have to do to increase that. Now, I'll

920
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: take your answers off the air. Thank you, Jeff. What

921
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: you already extend drive third downs? I think I think that.

922
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: What Let me look what they're ranked offensively in terms

923
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: of third downs. They were eighteen percent last week, the

924
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: week before, they were percent this week. I think I

925
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: think of twenty something, but I'll check it here. I

926
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: can bring that up really well. There there were three

927
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: there were five of I'm gonna guess twenty three, five

928
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: of twenty three, five three or five of twenty two,

929
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: I think, But I want to make sure I have

930
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: it right before I five third down convergence in two

931
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: games and rankings offense and Giants. Let's see Giants offensively

932
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: right now, Jeff are ranked they have twenty one point

933
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: seven four percent on third down and that ranks twenty

934
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: nine in the league. That about the only teams out

935
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 1: of worst the Dolphins, the Titans, and then the Browns,

936
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: and then after tonight the Browns. Based on how the

937
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: Jets played defensively, they might jump they might jump ahead

938
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: of the Giants there, but no third downs and red

939
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: zone efficiency. What was the red zone efficiency yesterday for

940
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: the Giants? The red zone? The Giants the red zone.

941
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: The problems that they're not getting all the way down

942
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: deep into the red zone. They're moving the ball, but

943
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: they're getting stopped short of the twenty, which is the problem,

944
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: and they're not kicking those few You know, Aldcrosse doesn't

945
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: have nine field goals already this season. They're just they're

946
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: going for it on fourth downs and they're not making

947
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: and then they're behind. They gotta score touchdowns, not field goals.

948
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 1: And again you run to the time of possession issue

949
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: when you're not having enough snaps because hey, you're not

950
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: sustaining drives, and then your defense is allowing some of

951
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: those long drives. You look at this game. Look to me,

952
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: they were there were there were two critical points in

953
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: this game, Jeff, if you want to look at it

954
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: this way, end of the half, you don't get to

955
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: two scores, and then you get within one score in

956
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: the second half and the defense can't get a stop

957
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: and the Bills go up two touchdowns in the fourth quarter.

958
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: The Giants could have had the ball back with you know,

959
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: seven minutes to go on the Cloud down one score,

960
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: or even if the Giants was held. It was even

961
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: if the Giant if the Giants would have held the

962
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: Bills due to a field goal, then maybe they kick

963
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: a field goal on their next drive instead of having

964
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: to go for it on four down. Then all of

965
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's back to one. You know, it's it's

966
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: just those you know those there's a few big plays

967
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: in every game, like for example, Eli Manning gets a

968
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: pass batted load of the ground. Somehow Trent Murphy's in

969
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: the right place to to grab a pick. The Giants

970
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: on two different plays, Allen pass feet in the air.

971
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: It felt like those balls were floating in the sky,

972
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: but it literally falls halfway in between two or three

973
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: different Giants players and they can't get the pick just

974
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: they just didn't They didn't make the plays when they

975
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: have to make them. But this is the thing. When

976
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: you're not a good football team, you don't get those

977
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: types of breaks. And by the way, we're not trying

978
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: to say that breaks of the reason the Giants aware

979
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: there as not what I'm saying, you know what I know,

980
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure fans I think we're

981
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: making excusive because that because that's not what we're doing.

982
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: That's just the way it works. Uh, this is a

983
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: defensive problem. Okay, it's a defensive problem. That's it really is. Now.

984
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: Does the offense have some problems, Yes, of course they do,

985
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: of course they do. Um does the special teams have problems?

986
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: Yes they do. They missed a field goal yesterday, but

987
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: for you know, on on for really they played well

988
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: yesterday's special teams. And by the way, the Giants were

989
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: in the top three and in the special teams last

990
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: year as a whole. Um. So, and and I'll tell

991
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: you what, Corey Cole is a good player, man, he

992
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: is that he is really good. And so is Hamilton's.

993
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: They're both good special team They are really good. That

994
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: play that they made down there, I mean you know

995
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: up in the press box. Guys, it's very quiet up there.

996
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: I get a little excited when I when a play

997
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: like that, you know, and did you did you? Did you?

998
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: Just like? No? Nice? Nice? Nice? So sorry sorry sorry

999
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: you alright, folks in my blood. I I gotta get

1000
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: off the two thirties today. I have to finished my

1001
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: game report. I got people literally texting during the show,

1002
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 1: where's your game report? Well? I'm kind of doing something

1003
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: right now exactly. Um, let's go to h right, fine, chuckles,

1004
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: what's up, buddy? How are you Charlie in Portland, Maine? Oh,

1005
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: we're depressed every time you called Charlie. Change now good point. Hey,

1006
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: look my point is this everyone just relaxed here. Yeah,

1007
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: you're telling people to relax, Charlie. Have we have? We

1008
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: went into the bizarre world? Look, will be complaining about

1009
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: raps week. When are we ever going to get a

1010
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: pass rush? Guess what? Step one? We got a pass rush.

1011
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: We started and it was it wasn't a great pass rush,

1012
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: but it was certainly it was certainly better than a

1013
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: week the bills. You know, that's the start. That's the start,

1014
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: And the other thing is fine if Baker isn't look,

1015
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: I've been saying the last three weeks, snimplify the defense,

1016
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: and bet your has to simplify the defense to the

1017
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: players he has. And if Baker is going to be

1018
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: making these mistakes, then put in Ballantine. He played well

1019
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: in the preseason. Lee give him the shot to do it.

1020
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: He was always around the ball, he got some interceptions.

1021
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: Why don't, for God's sakes, give him an opportunity. But

1022
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: in and he taught Daniel Jones is not the savior

1023
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: of this team. He is not. He will not be

1024
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback of this team. I'm telling you that

1025
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: right now. Just as I said Eric Fos was a bust,

1026
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: I'm telling you he will not be the savior of

1027
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. Well let's try real quick. How

1028
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: do you define savior? How I define it? I define

1029
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: it as Uh, there's the other quarterbacks that we had

1030
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: after Phil Simms. I how about this? In six and

1031
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: six years, will Daniel Jones be the starting quarterback for

1032
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: the Giants? He gonna be the starting quarterback after next year?

1033
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: Thank you. This guy couldn't learn technique. And I'm telling

1034
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: you this guy is gonna fumble every game he's in

1035
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: because that's what he did in college, that's what he

1036
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: did in pre season. That is going to be his

1037
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: achilling hell, and it's going to kill him every time.

1038
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: He will not be reliable. You know, he will not

1039
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: be relied, Charlie. We have, Charlie. The fact that you

1040
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: know that before he plays in one regular season game

1041
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: is amusing. But make your last point, Okay, down, write

1042
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: it down. I know as it is. And I told

1043
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: you about Eric Flowers and I'm telling you that's what

1044
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. And the other thing is give e By

1045
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: a break at least at wait until he gets his

1046
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: wide receiver corback, wait until that's a good point. Yeah, yeah,

1047
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 1: I like that. I agree with you there, and frankly,

1048
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: I for Charlie, I agree with you on that point

1049
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: to that that's how I w That's that's probably the

1050
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: smartest thing you said all day, Charlie, and I agree

1051
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: with that one. We're still going to be games. We're

1052
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: in the next two games because this defense played a

1053
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: lot better in that last half of that game. It's

1054
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: aren't to gel and if they just replaced Baker and look,

1055
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: Roge and Pepper is not Collins. Let's just all say that, right,

1056
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: now Roger, and Pepper is not Landolf Collins, so he

1057
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: is good at him and he won't be as good

1058
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: as him Landolf Collins landed. Thank you, Charlie, I have

1059
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 1: a good one. How does he get landed Collins this day? Charlie?

1060
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 1: I love you at death the cheese well up in Maine,

1061
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. And look, Pepper's has not been

1062
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: the victim on a lot of these plays. They're not

1063
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: attacking him, but he's also not making a ton of

1064
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: plays either. By the way I looked at it, the

1065
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: Giants right now, I guess how many yards per game?

1066
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: How are they ranked in the NFL yards gained per

1067
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: game offense? But what do you think they're ranked? Um

1068
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: giving up the yards per game offensively? How many offensive

1069
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: yards per game are they averaging? And where do they

1070
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: rank there? Averaging three or three nineties something four? That's

1071
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: going to rank them in the top eight six? Yeah, yeah, definitely.

1072
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: And by the way, they didn't have any guards. They

1073
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: didn't have any garbage time yards against the Bills, and

1074
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: they only had that one garbage time drive against Dallas.

1075
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: Right was it just was just one? Right? I don't

1076
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: so even if you had blower that by like twenty

1077
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: or thirty, and you get him down to like, let's

1078
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: say again them the three eight. You take forty yards

1079
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: off of that total for garbage time, take what did

1080
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: you say the whole off season that would that that

1081
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 1: would still rank them eighth or ninth. We're not worried

1082
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: about the offense to a one, but again, but not

1083
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: scoring points and that and that is important. But okay,

1084
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: got a score. When we talk about there are the offense.

1085
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: Is there any problems in the offense, Yes, there is

1086
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: the third down convergence and scoring point. They're they're putting,

1087
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: they're putting up the yards to do it, okay, but

1088
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: they're just not getting in the end zone. We've had

1089
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: this problem before. The Giants have had this problem before.

1090
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: They seem to have fixed it the second half of

1091
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: the season last year, especially the last four games. They

1092
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: weren't removing the ball the first half. The first half

1093
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: was horrible, So I guess that's it isn't improvement, But

1094
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: really if you look at the last four games of

1095
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: the year, that was a big improvement. And that's kind

1096
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: of what we got excited about. Jamal in Dallas is

1097
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: our next to last call or hey, Jamal, what's up?

1098
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: What's going on? Feathers? Appreciate thy, thank you for calling in, Jamal,

1099
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? No problem, man Um, I'm glad

1100
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: you went through the statistical part for the offense, and

1101
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: you'll say it's not the offense, which which after I

1102
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: watched the game, the highlight after and everything you see. Yes,

1103
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: we're moving the ball, we're getting down we're just not

1104
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 1: scoring in the red zone. But why is third down

1105
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: always our chillies held? Like? What is it the play calling?

1106
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: Because it feels like we have time? Is it elied

1107
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: the receiver that we're in the right route? Like why

1108
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 1: are the third down so much of a challenge for us?

1109
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: Or either second or long? It seems like we can't

1110
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: do anything when we're behind the sticks or for more

1111
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: than six yards. I gets tired. I get tired of

1112
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: watching it. Right. Well, the answer to that is on

1113
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: first and second down a lot of times you're your

1114
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: third downs? Are you know they're predicating on you what

1115
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: you're doing on first and second downs a lot? That's it?

1116
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean there do you see the Giants getting in

1117
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: a lot of third and shorts, third and two, third

1118
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: and one, No, they're always thirty eight, thirty seven's third

1119
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: and six is well in fantas. You did have a

1120
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: couple of the third and shorts in that first game,

1121
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: but they didn't convert those either. You the third in

1122
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: two with Penny, and then you had the third and

1123
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: one where they tried to roll out, so that didn't

1124
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: work either. But then my question is this is Schula

1125
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: like why like when so when we're third and long,

1126
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: why is it Eli? And I'm not trying to blame Eli.

1127
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make it, but he has a

1128
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: tendency on third and third and long to dump it

1129
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: off to the checkdown or the shortest route and hoping

1130
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: that the receivers make a play to get up field,

1131
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 1: which I get. But at the end of the day,

1132
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: like are the routes not being right or they call

1133
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: it a bad plays or Eli just checking it down

1134
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: for the safe, for the safe, for the for the

1135
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: safe catch. Well, well, well for one on third and

1136
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: ten or more, Just so you're aware, the league average

1137
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: on third and ten or more is okay? Conversion ry

1138
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: that that is your conversion rate on third and ten

1139
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: and more for all teams in the NFL. Over the

1140
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: course of well, it's a fair point, um, but it's

1141
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: a good line. But look, teams can play that deep

1142
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: umbrella coverage, and I think especially when you have your

1143
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: wide receivers hurt like the Giants had this week, in

1144
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: particular without Shepherd and Tate, it gets very difficult. Um.

1145
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: I think maybe sometimes you might want to see Eli

1146
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: try to stick the ball into a really small window.

1147
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to be turnover at verse with

1148
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: some of those decisions. But honestly, nine of the time

1149
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: at I look at every one of these players on tape,

1150
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: and I watched the games every Monday morning, and usually

1151
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: there just isn't a whole lot down the field. Teams

1152
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: can play quarters, they can play four deep, they can

1153
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: play umbrella coverage, and you just don't let teams, you know,

1154
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: create those types of plays if your defense and you

1155
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: don't want to go ahead so real quick. This is

1156
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: why I think people are are asking for the Daniel

1157
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: Jones era to begin, because if you look at the

1158
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: game with Josh Allen, you know she was able to

1159
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: get to get our defense to chase him down and

1160
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: when he did, when we did that, that's what open

1161
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: the middle of the field, say the same thing with

1162
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: that now saying you've got to be able to mar Jackson,

1163
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: but Daniel Jones may at least be able to keep

1164
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: the defense somewhat honest to where if they commit, she

1165
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: can jumped off to Ingram or stay quat or one

1166
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: of your severs crossings. Maybe a dB might fail off

1167
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: or jump off their route a little earlier than when Eli.

1168
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: Everybody knows he's not running around that corner. She's not

1169
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 1: running for six seven yards, you know what I mean.

1170
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: So I think as fan base, but you're frustrated with

1171
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: joy at the defense, and give me just play and

1172
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: just and just tackle anything in front of you. Come on,

1173
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: last point defense, my last point defense. You gotta simplify.

1174
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: I know everybody's saying that I'm a defensive guy, played safety,

1175
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: playing all that. The guys out there thinking too much.

1176
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: First of all, I think Antony, you know, he played

1177
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: a Howard to know the guy, you know, great guy,

1178
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: great person, but he get into that, you know, I

1179
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: think his age to get into him. He might be

1180
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: a great locker room guy. But something has Baker too much.

1181
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: Too much going on with Baker for whatever reason, I

1182
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: don't know why we're not rotating him with Valentine at

1183
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: least um at least getting him some breaks. But it

1184
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: seemed like team C Baker and it's all open from him.

1185
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: They just they're just kicking on him. And I take

1186
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: the rest of your comments off off, off, off the

1187
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: air with appreciate the call man. Good to hear from you.

1188
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: Um anything quick on that yet before I can tell you,

1189
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: like the one thing I am tired of seeing is

1190
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: that if you are going to check it down and

1191
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: you're on a route, please throw them. If you're the

1192
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: one of the receivers of the tight end and it's

1193
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: a third down, please get past the sticks. I don't

1194
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm tired of seeing the ball check down and then

1195
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: it's thrown at third and eight. It's thrown a third

1196
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: and six, it's throwing it not it's throwing a six yards.

1197
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: Can you get me at least eight? So if you

1198
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: can just lean over and it will be a first down,

1199
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: that bothers me. Jane Brooklyn, He'll be our final call.

1200
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: The shew j what's up? John? You know what a

1201
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: sherman doing? What is he doing in this press conference?

1202
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: You know? If if if you're gonna bring Eli in

1203
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: and you're gonna looking at even just cracking that door

1204
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: open after two games? Why is he Lt back? Why

1205
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: is he lt back on the team? J you want

1206
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: to go to the kids just ripped the band aid

1207
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: off and go to they should have just done that

1208
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: a year ago. Jay, I haven't had a chance to

1209
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: talk to Pat Charmer about it. We'll see what they

1210
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: end up doing on Wednesday. I think there's a chance

1211
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: he was just trying to make the point that, look, everybody,

1212
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: when you're owing too we look at everything and everyone

1213
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: gets evaluated. Maybe that's the point he was trying to make.

1214
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: And John, you've given way too much. I mean, if

1215
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: you I read some of the some of the transcorts

1216
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: are right that I read out of these reporters, he

1217
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: literally said he can't guarantee that Eli is going to

1218
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: start the next game. No that, and he he did

1219
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 1: say that I was, and frankly I was. I said

1220
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: the top of the show, Ja, I was very surprised.

1221
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: And when I told Jeff about he was very surprised

1222
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: when he heard that too. So I think it's this.

1223
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: This team has has basically written chapter in verse on

1224
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: how to not handle a quarterback situation. You know, from

1225
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: the benching of Elive for Geno Smith. It's everything. It's

1226
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: just it's unbelievable. M hm, well, thank you, Jay appreciate.

1227
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a repeated question all we don't

1228
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: know and think about it. They have to handle it

1229
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: in a way that they don't want to debacle this

1230
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: thing like they did last time, right because that was

1231
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: a complete mess what happened. Lat Charmer said, he'll he'll

1232
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: tell people what's going on on Wednesday and then we'll

1233
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: find out. But you have to understand that when there's

1234
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: a decision that's gonna be made, it's gonna be made,

1235
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: and there's and there's gonna be a communication with it.

1236
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: There's gonna eli will be told and it's gonna there's

1237
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: gonna be a there's gonna be a process to it.

1238
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen out of the press one day

1239
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: and Wednesday press conference and all of a sudden nobody

1240
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 1: knows about it, and all of a sudden, it's gonna

1241
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: be be told about it. It's gonna be known to

1242
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: some people. But you know what I'm saying, John did,

1243
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some conversations with it within the organization

1244
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: it's just not gonna happen out of the blue where

1245
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: where Patches says it didn't tell anybody, and that's gonna happen.

1246
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: And the way Monday's work, just when people know by

1247
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: the way the players were here, they did their offense

1248
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: and defensive team meetings, and they go to their position rooms,

1249
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: and while they were in their position group meetings, that's

1250
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: when Pat Frmer addressed the media. So there really isn't

1251
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: any time for there to be larger organizational discussions about

1252
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: things like this in such a short period of time

1253
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: after the game. Just so people understand what the schedules

1254
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: for the coaches. The coaches have been doing the last

1255
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: what time the game in four o'clock yesterday twenty two

1256
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: hours has been looking at game film and grading guys

1257
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: out and figuring out how the guys playing. Again, that's

1258
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: all they've had the discussions about so and and and

1259
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: then moving on to Tuesday. Tuesday, the game plan isn't

1260
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: is put together tonight and Tuesday Blair Player's Day Office. Tuesday,

1261
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: the coaches are in here early in the morning till

1262
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: late at night putting the game plan together for the

1263
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: Tampa game. And when the players arrive here Wednesday morning.

1264
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: The game plans are given to them at the first meeting.

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Speaker 1: you always get the twenty four hour rule because you

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Speaker 1: can't sit here and wait. You can't do it. You can't,

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Speaker 1: you can't get caught up on the game. You gotta go,

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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta start going big. Luka Golf Live

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Speaker 1: Jeff Good Show nine four six four. When do we

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Speaker 1: see you next next Friday? Are you off all next week?

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Speaker 1: This next week, the week you're off, Yes, but you

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Speaker 1: will see me Friday, this Friday. Okay, So you're in

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Speaker 1: this Friday and then you're off the following weeks also

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Speaker 1: me and you're back on Friday. Then that's correct. I

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Speaker 1: get three straight shows with Feagles, the highest rated shows

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Speaker 1: are ever will be Field might actually remember my name

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Speaker 1: after those three shows. Thank you for Cheff. All right,

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Speaker 1: everybody tomorrow it'll be two today. Yeah that time, I know.

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Speaker 1: I know. Tomorrow's Tuesday. Thank you to be rust In

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Speaker 1: Lance tomorrow on Big Blue Kickoff Live where Jeff Eagles

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Speaker 1: on tomorrow. We'll see tomorrow what thirty everybody? Adios