Speaker 1: That scary FBI juice jacking warning. Should you avoid public
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Speaker 1: think about this stuff a lot, This self service economy
Speaker 1: I call it. It really came to me yesterday as
Speaker 1: I was counting bananas at the checkout at Target and
Speaker 1: typing in that little code off the banana I had
Speaker 1: to look up on the Target self checkout. They've got
Speaker 1: It's pretty simple. You press produce and then you look
Speaker 1: at a couple of pictures. If your picture's not there,
Speaker 1: you type in a couple letters of the produce that
Speaker 1: you ordered, and it really, I don't know why it
Speaker 1: got to me, it like really made me think I
Speaker 1: am a cashier at Target right now. I am my
Speaker 1: own cashier now. Don't get me wrong. When self service
Speaker 1: checkout first came out, I was the first person in line.
Speaker 1: And there are some places where I will use it,
Speaker 1: some places where I refuse to use it. Some of
Speaker 1: these grocery stores you go into, their system's not as
Speaker 1: good as some of the other ones. I actually think
Speaker 1: Target has probably one of the better self service checkouts.
Speaker 1: But you've been at the places where you know, you
Speaker 1: don't put the thing on the little bagging area and
Speaker 1: you get all these chimes, and the person has to
Speaker 1: walk over, they've got to scan something. It's a whole mess.
Speaker 1: So some of these places are not very good, But Target,
Speaker 1: I think is pretty good. But it kind of made
Speaker 1: me a little reflective of all of the things that
Speaker 1: I've become in my life. At the airport, you know,
Speaker 1: you check yourself in. You check yourself in right on
Speaker 1: your app. There's even places where you can tag your
Speaker 1: own luggage. That's pretty much the default at this point.
Speaker 1: I've never done that. I still I'm a holdout on
Speaker 1: the tagging my own luggage. But there's that's the option there.
Speaker 1: That's really what they want you to do. Let's see
Speaker 1: the hotel you go to. There are hotels where you
Speaker 1: can check in right from your phone, use your phone
Speaker 1: as a key, and bypass the front desk. I mean
Speaker 1: Airbnb and Sounder. Those are two sort of systems that
Speaker 1: do that. But Hilton lets you do that. Hyatt lets
Speaker 1: you do that. You don't even need to go to
Speaker 1: the desk anymore. Pumping gas the original self service. Now,
Speaker 1: I grew up in New Jersey, where it is illegal
Speaker 1: to pump your own gas. You cannot pump your own
Speaker 1: gas in New Jersey to this day. One of I
Speaker 1: believe two states, Oregon being the other one. In certain
Speaker 1: places I believe, I don't think it's all of Oregon,
Speaker 1: but I could be wrong. So let me know if
Speaker 1: it's all of Oregon or just places. I was there
Speaker 1: over the summer last year, and I'm trying to remember, now,
Speaker 1: did I pump my own gas or did someone pump
Speaker 1: it for me? I can't remember. Movie theater We went
Speaker 1: to the movies last night. We'll talk more about that
Speaker 1: later in the show we saw the Super Mario Brothers movie.
Speaker 1: But movie theater. Now, I'm old enough where I remember
Speaker 1: the old ways of doing everything right. You go to
Speaker 1: the movie, you'd look in the newspaper for the times
Speaker 1: number one. Then you'd stand in line outside the theater.
Speaker 1: You hope that they still had a seat for the
Speaker 1: movie that you wanted to watch, and you would go
Speaker 1: into the theater. Someone would take your ticket. Now you
Speaker 1: do it all from your phone. In fact, I bought
Speaker 1: too many tickets last night. I was able to return
Speaker 1: it ticket right for my phone. You get to the
Speaker 1: movie theater, they scan your ticket. They even give your
Speaker 1: cup to dispense your own drink. Now, as a kid,
Speaker 1: if you would have given me my own drink cup
Speaker 1: where I can pick. They've got this machine that lets
Speaker 1: you pick from like one hundred and fifty different drinks.
Speaker 1: That freestyle machine. I mean to be able to craft
Speaker 1: your own drink at the movie theater. These are the
Speaker 1: times we live in. In fact, this is something you
Speaker 1: really need to try. This is really cool. There is
Speaker 1: a QR code in that Coca Cola freestyle machine. You
Speaker 1: scan that with your phone, and now your phone becomes
Speaker 1: a remote control for that machine. You can dispense the
Speaker 1: soda from your phone. You tap the screen, it dispenses,
Speaker 1: you lift your finger up, it stops dispensing. It's magic.
Speaker 1: A lot of this stuff is magic. But it's also
Speaker 1: changing car washes. The car wash near me, they just
Speaker 1: change from fully automated, so the people are no longer there.
Speaker 1: You sign up for unlimited washes. You drive your car
Speaker 1: up to the thing, you scan a code, it washes
Speaker 1: your car. You drive out. Parking lots. The latest parking
Speaker 1: lots are all automated, and the best is the parking
Speaker 1: lots that scan your license plate. I know it's scary,
Speaker 1: but they scan your license plate and when you leave,
Speaker 1: you don't even need to put your ticket in. At
Speaker 1: the end, they know from your license plate that you
Speaker 1: already paid at the exit. They already tracked you as
Speaker 1: you came in, and they say, oh, this is Rich's
Speaker 1: license plate. Go ahead, have a good day. In Hawaii
Speaker 1: on vacation. The towel machine. This was the first time
Speaker 1: I saw this. Instead of going to an attendant for
Speaker 1: the towel, there was a machine. You scan your hotel
Speaker 1: room key, the machine door opens, you grab your towels,
Speaker 1: and what's to keep you from taking these towels from
Speaker 1: the hotel. Well, it says it has an RFID tracking
Speaker 1: tag in the towels. Now, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: believe that. Maybe they do. I don't know. When I
Speaker 1: was at the airport Panera, instead of walking up to
Speaker 1: the person ordering your salad, they had a bunch of
Speaker 1: touchscreen kiosks at CPK, same thing. You order your food
Speaker 1: from the touch screen and then someone makes it. They
Speaker 1: call your number. You're done at a table at a restaurant.
Speaker 1: I was at a restaurant, and this was during COVID,
Speaker 1: but it's still kind of a sign of the times.
Speaker 1: You know, you'd scan that QR code for the menu,
Speaker 1: but you'd actually take it a step further and just
Speaker 1: order your food from your phone and then a runner
Speaker 1: would bring it to your table. Now, I think we're
Speaker 1: going to see much more of that at these quick
Speaker 1: serve restaurants, something like a Chili's or at Applebee's, because
Speaker 1: people just want to get in there, they want to eat.
Speaker 1: And you know, I was a waiter at one point
Speaker 1: in my life and I loved it, that interaction with people.
Speaker 1: But now the whole name of the game is turning tables,
Speaker 1: cutting costs, and so technology will continue to evolve that situation.
Speaker 1: Simple interactions between humans have become unusual. You don't interact
Speaker 1: on a daily basis. If you're interacting with another person,
Speaker 1: that's unusual. Everything has become sort of what you're doing
Speaker 1: on your own. Companies are continuing to figure out a
Speaker 1: way to cut out the middleman, and they are. I've
Speaker 1: done reports on self service burger vending machines, self service
Speaker 1: pizza vetting machine, breakrooms at offices are now self service,
Speaker 1: mostly on your honor. Amazon. They're building entire stores that
Speaker 1: are self service. I've been in two of them. Just
Speaker 1: walk Out is their technology. You don't even have to
Speaker 1: check out. You grab what you want, It figures out
Speaker 1: who you are, it links it to you, and you'll
Speaker 1: walk out of the store. It actually works pretty well too.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it gets things wrong. If it does, you go
Speaker 1: on your app you say I didn't grab that jar
Speaker 1: of peanut butter, it gives you a credit for it.
Speaker 1: They have a seven to eleven store that's an Amazon store.
Speaker 1: It's called Amazon Go. Same concept. There's one person working
Speaker 1: the store at the exit and they're just there to
Speaker 1: kind of answer questions if you need them, but otherwise,
Speaker 1: you walk in, you grab your donut, you grab your coffee,
Speaker 1: you walk out. So let's see the things I've been
Speaker 1: in my professional life. In addition to a journalist, I've
Speaker 1: been a barista. I've made my own coffee at the
Speaker 1: Amazon Fresh store where it just has a machine. I've
Speaker 1: been an airline attendant, booking or checking in my own bags.
Speaker 1: I've been a grocery store clerk. I've been a fast
Speaker 1: food order taker at the Panera. I've been a pizza maker,
Speaker 1: at least on the app that lets me design the
Speaker 1: exact ingredients on the exact side of the pizza. I
Speaker 1: want gas station attendant, travel agent, researcher on Google, and
Speaker 1: much more. We rent movies from our TV screen, books
Speaker 1: from our Kindle screen, music from our phone screen, and
Speaker 1: food appears at our door magically thanks to contact delivery.
Speaker 1: Contactless delivery. You don't hail a cab anymore. You tap
Speaker 1: an app. You don't call four on one anymore. You
Speaker 1: search Google. We ask friends for recommendations, but we double
Speaker 1: check what they say on Yelp, just to make sure
Speaker 1: it's a place that we think we'd like. Human interaction
Speaker 1: has never been more meaningful or important. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: telling you this. I know that these ways are not
Speaker 1: coming back. You're not going to go stand in a
Speaker 1: line in a movie theater and buy a ticket face
Speaker 1: to face to a person anymore. That's just not the
Speaker 1: way we do it. We choose our seat, we choose
Speaker 1: exactly where we want to sit in the movie theater.
Speaker 1: We choose where we sit on the plane, We choose
Speaker 1: where we sit at the ballpark, at the stage, at
Speaker 1: the concert. These old ways of doing things are just
Speaker 1: not going to come back. In fact, we're going to
Speaker 1: continue to do even more on our own. The efficiencies
Speaker 1: because of technology are there, but the connections are gone.
Speaker 1: And that is my point. My point is why do
Speaker 1: you feel so good when you are sitting there on
Speaker 1: a Friday night or a Saturday night with your friends
Speaker 1: and family. Why? Because face to face time has never
Speaker 1: been more important than right now. We are doing so
Speaker 1: much on our own that when we actually get to
Speaker 1: sit there and be present with our friends and family,
Speaker 1: that is when we are truly human. And I love it,
Speaker 1: and believe me, I'm not saying that this technology is
Speaker 1: a bad thing. I'm just saying I am a little
Speaker 1: bit old enough to understand the changes that have happened
Speaker 1: in my lifetime and why we feel the way we do.
Speaker 1: You can text forever with a friend, but when you
Speaker 1: actually see them and catch up, you still have a
Speaker 1: million questions for each other. It's a beautiful thing. It's amazing,
Speaker 1: and I love it, both sides of it, all right.
Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, we've got details on the
Speaker 1: replacement for HBO Max. Yes, they are ditching the HBO name. Plus,
Speaker 1: will Amazon charge you for your next return? I've got
Speaker 1: this simple way to answer that question and find out.
Speaker 1: And we've got some great guests this week. Dan Gooden
Speaker 1: of Ours Technica is gonna join me to explain if
Speaker 1: you should be concerned about that scary FBI juice jacking warning.
Speaker 1: Ben Fisher of Sports Business Journal is gonna explain NFL
Speaker 1: Sunday tickets, big move to the YouTube this year, and
Speaker 1: later friend of the show Matt Swider will tell you
Speaker 1: the best way to see the new Super Mario Brothers movie.
Speaker 1: But first it's your turn. We're gonna have your calls.
Speaker 1: Coming up next at Triple eight Rich one oh one,
Speaker 1: I'm rich Demiro, and you are listening to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. My name is Rich DeMuro,
Speaker 1: hanging out talking technology with you. Phone lines are open
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Speaker 1: I don't think you realized just how much I enjoy
Speaker 1: coming in here and hanging out with you on the
Speaker 1: weekends talking technology. I really, really truly look forward to this.
Speaker 1: You can follow me on social media at rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Carol is up first.
Speaker 1: She's in Los Angeles. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Oh hi Rich, Hi Coock. Question, So I have a laptop.
Speaker 2: It's an older one at Choshiba Satellite S fifty five
Speaker 2: fifty two sixty two. And I know you have given
Speaker 2: a good recommendation to take in to have the keyboard
Speaker 2: replace that you break it, I fix it or something
Speaker 2: like that. Sure, yep, went I went there, but I
Speaker 2: didn't have my laptop. I just wanted to check out
Speaker 2: the location. My problem is I'm computer literate enough to
Speaker 2: kind of transfer stuff on my external hard live. But
Speaker 2: do I need to do that or can I trust
Speaker 2: them if I read the stuff on? Or how much
Speaker 2: do I take off you know, I don't know enough
Speaker 2: to check if I take certain things off the laptop,
Speaker 2: if there's still other stuff still on there. Yeah, tax
Speaker 2: info or do you recommend that I need to just
Speaker 2: get a new I have to break down and get
Speaker 2: a new laptop or something.
Speaker 1: Well, well, I would never recommend getting something new when
Speaker 1: you can repair what you've got and it still works
Speaker 1: for you. So unless your laptop is totally you're just
Speaker 1: over it. I mean, so, for example, I've repaired two
Speaker 1: of my computers, and you know, the repairs were pretty
Speaker 1: expensive each time. I think they were like six hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: But the reality is a computer can last a very
Speaker 1: long time. And so if how much is this repair
Speaker 1: that you're looking.
Speaker 2: At, Oh, I went back in like December, like it
Speaker 2: was under two hundred bucks.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, so two hundred dollars. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: way cheaper than a new computer. Depends. So if this
Speaker 1: how old is this computer?
Speaker 2: It's probably at twenty seventeen. I'm just using an external
Speaker 2: keyboard because some of the keys started sticky oyes, I couldn't.
Speaker 1: Log in sure sure, so it's not working properly.
Speaker 2: And then yesterday I was trying to use it for
Speaker 2: something and it wasn't working. But I just kind of
Speaker 2: kind of googled and stuff and says, did you like
Speaker 2: not update your computer with the word updates because sometimes
Speaker 2: that's annoying. So I went back and once I updated it,
Speaker 2: it worked immediately, so that could have been.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, so is it working or is it not
Speaker 1: working the keyboard?
Speaker 2: So it's working. It's working fine, except for the keyboard.
Speaker 1: Okay, got it.
Speaker 2: So I still have a lot of ram on it
Speaker 2: and everything memory.
Speaker 1: So yeah. So the bottom line is if it's working
Speaker 1: for you and the computer is doing what you needed
Speaker 1: to do, I would probably spend the two hundred dollars
Speaker 1: and you know, in the meantime be planning your next computer,
Speaker 1: whether that's you know, five hundred, six hundred, one thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: and try to plan for that so that's not a
Speaker 1: surprise when it's time to upgrade. But for two hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: hopefully you get another, you know, two years out of
Speaker 1: this computer, let's say at least, and then of course
Speaker 1: it will still work afterwards. Maybe you can hand it
Speaker 1: down to someone install something like a Chrome os flex
Speaker 1: on it, which is like a chromebook kind of conversion
Speaker 1: software that doesn't need much to run. But first off,
Speaker 1: with your keyboard, if they just if they diagnose that
Speaker 1: it's actually a problem, that's fine, get it replaced. But
Speaker 1: before you do that, I would kind of give my
Speaker 1: computer a cleansing with some canned air. Just make sure
Speaker 1: you spray that kind of under the keyboard. Ninety nine
Speaker 1: percent of keyboard problems are chrumbs underneath the keys, and
Speaker 1: so I would just be gentle. But you can use
Speaker 1: a little bit of rubbing alcohol on a on a
Speaker 1: you know, just a very very light bit on like
Speaker 1: a cotton swab or a pad. Also, you can use
Speaker 1: like a wipe, but I would really ring it out
Speaker 1: because you do not want to put like a wet
Speaker 1: lisol wipe on your computer. That's super wet. I've done
Speaker 1: it before many many years ago, and it fried the
Speaker 1: key So do not do that. But you can gently
Speaker 1: put a moist you know, a very very light, lightly
Speaker 1: moistened toilet on there to kind of clean things up.
Speaker 1: Blow it off and see if that helps with the keyboard.
Speaker 1: If it doesn't, yes, So to answer your original question,
Speaker 1: before you bring this computer in, you want to full
Speaker 1: back above the hard drive and it's not about them
Speaker 1: necessarily snooping on your drive, but they may have to
Speaker 1: do things that impact your data. So do not give
Speaker 1: your password to anyone that is that is working on
Speaker 1: your computer. And if you do need to do that,
Speaker 1: make a separate account on your computer that they can
Speaker 1: log into if that becomes an issue. I brought my
Speaker 1: computer in one time. They know, they said, all right,
Speaker 1: what's your password for your computer? I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: I'm not giving you my password to my computer. That
Speaker 1: unlocks everything. I said, you got to work around that,
Speaker 1: and sure enough they were able to do that. But
Speaker 1: the reality is they may ask you to do it
Speaker 1: and you just say no or create a different account.
Speaker 1: I would also encrypt your hard drive before you send
Speaker 1: it in, and anything that you can offload to a
Speaker 1: different drive, like attacks. You know, anything you can put
Speaker 1: in the cloud, you can delete off your physical drive,
Speaker 1: but that's what I would do, and then back up
Speaker 1: the entire drive before you send it in, and that
Speaker 1: way you have an entire copy of your hard drive
Speaker 1: before you send it in. You can also log out
Speaker 1: of some of your accounts if you want, like log
Speaker 1: out of Google, log out of your main accounts on
Speaker 1: your web browser. Those are all good things to do.
Speaker 1: But these are all things that just make a lot
Speaker 1: of sense because you don't want this computer to be
Speaker 1: accessed in any way during the repair that you may
Speaker 1: get your files. And also at the same time, when
Speaker 1: they are accessing this computer, they may need to just
Speaker 1: pop out the drive or do some sort of formatting
Speaker 1: on that drive, and then you lose everything. So you
Speaker 1: just have to be prepared when you bring your computer
Speaker 1: in somewhere, you may not get it back in the
Speaker 1: same way that you send it in, and so you
Speaker 1: just need to know that all of your files may
Speaker 1: be gone when you get it back. So just if
Speaker 1: you have that in your mind and you're prepared for that,
Speaker 1: and you've got a backup, you'll be fine. But yeah,
Speaker 1: get it repaired to hundred bucks and you'll forget about
Speaker 1: it and then finally, in a couple of years you
Speaker 1: can get a new computer. Good question, Carol, Thanks a lot,
Speaker 1: all right. If you're returning something to Amazon, you might
Speaker 1: encounter a return fee. Amazon has started charging a return
Speaker 1: for some returns, and here's when they're gonna charge you.
Speaker 1: When they don't have a free option available in your area.
Speaker 1: These returns cost Amazon a lot of money. So if
Speaker 1: you're bringing it to a ups store and they've got
Speaker 1: an Amazon Fresh, a Coals or a Whole Food's near you,
Speaker 1: they may ask you for a one dollar return fee.
Speaker 1: So just keep that in mind if you're looking at
Speaker 1: your Amazon returns. Again, they're trying to make people return
Speaker 1: things less because people order a lot of stuff on
Speaker 1: Amazon and then they say, eh, I don't want this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna return it, and that does cost Amazon money.
Speaker 1: And of course we know all tech companies are trying
Speaker 1: to save money right now, all right, Coming up next,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about juice jacking. You probably heard this
Speaker 1: scary warning from the FBI this week, right you shouldn't
Speaker 1: plug your phone into a publick USB port. I've got
Speaker 1: Dan goodin security expert at ours Technica. He's going to
Speaker 1: break it down and let you know can you safely
Speaker 1: plug in at the airport rich On Tech.
Speaker 3: Coming up next, Welcome back to rich On Tech. Joining
Speaker 3: me now is Dan goodin security editor at ours Technica. Dan,
Speaker 3: thanks so much for joining me.
Speaker 4: Hey, rich So let's.
Speaker 3: Talk about the story of the week, the scary FBI
Speaker 3: warning about juice jacking. FBI Denver put out a tweet
Speaker 3: that said avoid using free charging stations and airports, hotels
Speaker 3: or shopping centers. Ad actors have figured out ways to
Speaker 3: use public USB ports to introduce malware and monitoring software
Speaker 3: onto devices, Carry your own charger and USD cord and
Speaker 3: use an electrical outlet instead. Dan, you cover security for
Speaker 3: a living at ours Technica. What was your reaction when
Speaker 3: you saw this?
Speaker 5: Well, this is is kind of the old wives tale
Speaker 5: that comes up every eighteen months or so, and there
Speaker 5: is no evidence at all that these types of attacks
Speaker 5: are happening in airports or other types of public places. There's,
Speaker 5: in fact, no evidence that they're happening at all. You know,
Speaker 5: I can't I can't prove a negative, but you know,
Speaker 5: the burden is on them. They're making claims and they
Speaker 5: need to say how they know it, and you know,
Speaker 5: until then, I don't think people should pay much attention.
Speaker 3: Now, I've been covering checks for about ten years now,
Speaker 3: and I have never cited one report where I heard
Speaker 3: of this actually happening. But I've heard over the years
Speaker 3: the warnings about it, and so it's one of those
Speaker 3: things that when you hear this as an average person,
Speaker 3: you're now sitting there thinking, oh great, can I not
Speaker 3: plug into a public us B port? Is it not safe?
Speaker 3: Can you explain sort of? The FBI would tweet something
Speaker 3: like this.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, back in I don't know, twenty ten,
Speaker 4: two thousand and nine, maybe even a little bit later
Speaker 4: than that, iPhones and Android phones worked a lot differently.
Speaker 4: When you know, sometimes when.
Speaker 6: You would plug them into a computer, the computer would
Speaker 6: like immediately be able to you know, pull down files
Speaker 6: or do other types of things. Because both these platforms,
Speaker 6: you know, Android and iOS were pretty immature at the time,
Speaker 6: so you know there was a risk and hackers at
Speaker 6: hacker conferences would go and they bring fake uh you know,
Speaker 6: charging stations and they would actually do this kind of stuff,
Speaker 6: and you know it was at a hacker conference where
Speaker 6: that kind of stuff is pre game. So I you know,
Speaker 6: there was a risk at one time, but I would
Speaker 6: say in the last probably five years, basically all well
Speaker 6: certainly all iOS devices, all iPhones and iPads. I give
Speaker 6: you this very prominent uh you know pop up that
Speaker 6: wants that warns you what's about to happen and asks,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 4: Do you want to let it happen? And you know,
Speaker 4: I think most people when they plug something in to
Speaker 4: get power and it suddenly says, you know, do you
Speaker 4: want to have your files access? You know, people say no,
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 6: And Android it's a little bit different because you have
Speaker 6: so many different manufacturers that things can be different from
Speaker 6: phone to phone, but most of the you know, decent
Speaker 6: brands and up they also provide a very prominent warning,
Speaker 6: so you know, it's this isn't the easiest attack to
Speaker 6: for somebody to pull off.
Speaker 3: So I'm looking through Google News and this juice jacking
Speaker 3: story has pretty much gone viral, with every major media
Speaker 3: outlet saying that the FBI is warning against using public
Speaker 3: phone charge stations at airports malls, so don't I thought
Speaker 3: when I saw this that the FBI knew something that
Speaker 3: I didn't know. They saw an uptick.
Speaker 1: In this happening worldwide.
Speaker 3: And you're saying, that's just not the case.
Speaker 4: They didn't. I called the FBI and I asked them
Speaker 4: what their source was for all of this, and they said, oh,
Speaker 4: they directed me to the FCC and a page on
Speaker 4: the FCC dot gov website that had the same warning,
Speaker 4: and I, you know, they said, we don't really, you know,
Speaker 4: we don't know anything more than this is what the
Speaker 4: SEC is saying.
Speaker 6: So I called the SCC and I asked them pretty
Speaker 6: much the same questions, and they cited a two thy
Speaker 6: nineteen post from the Los Angeles District Attorney's Office that was,
Speaker 6: you know, warning of this thing, and that went up
Speaker 6: in twenty nineteen. It came down in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 6: about three weeks after my colleague at you know, our
Speaker 6: at tech Crunch, Zach Whittaker, reported that the LA District
Speaker 6: Attorney's Office had.
Speaker 4: Zero cases and that they were they had heard that
Speaker 4: there were cases on the East coast, but they couldn't
Speaker 4: point to them. They couldn't provide you know, law enforcement
Speaker 4: uh sources or anything that we could call and conferm it. So,
Speaker 4: you know, Zach went and reported this thing, and the
Speaker 4: LA District Attorney's Office goes and pulls it down. And
Speaker 4: here we are, uh, two years later, and we still have.
Speaker 6: The aftershocks of this thing, where people, you know, other
Speaker 6: law enforcement agencies keep on coming out and you know,
Speaker 6: spouting this nonsense.
Speaker 3: It seems a little irresponsible to me because we have
Speaker 3: enough to worry about with our smartphones, and we always
Speaker 3: hear about the dangers of you know, security in general
Speaker 3: and how we.
Speaker 4: Have to keep ourselves safe.
Speaker 3: So if there's something we don't have to worry about,
Speaker 3: why are they perpetuating this?
Speaker 4: What interest do they have in this? I think they want,
Speaker 4: you know, if your tax dollars at work. Quite frankly,
Speaker 4: I think they just want to look like they're trying
Speaker 4: and doing something. I don't think they have impure motives.
Speaker 4: I don't think, you know, I just think that, you know,
Speaker 4: so many people don't really know how to keep people
Speaker 4: safe online, and so they just say, you know, little
Speaker 4: platitudes or things that they've heard other people say. You know,
Speaker 4: they don't really know. And you know, the fact of
Speaker 4: the matter is is that humans are not good in
Speaker 4: general at assessing risk in a realistic way. We're very scared.
Speaker 6: About things that we hear happen on the news, even
Speaker 6: though the probability of them is very low. And then
Speaker 6: you know, the same people who are worried about these
Speaker 6: exotic risks are not wearing a seatbelt. They're doing things
Speaker 6: that are be much better worse for their security. So,
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, people need to think about their security,
Speaker 6: but they do not need to worry about a charging station.
Speaker 4: You know at the movie figure.
Speaker 3: What about these sort of accessories like a USB data
Speaker 3: blocker or a charge only cable. Do you even think
Speaker 3: that people need to do that or to carry their
Speaker 3: own portable battery? Do you think people need to do
Speaker 3: any of that?
Speaker 6: No, I mean I don't if I know people who
Speaker 6: do it. I know people who use these, you know,
Speaker 6: they call them USB condoms and things. It has just
Speaker 6: the charging portion of the court. It does not have
Speaker 6: the part that carries data. You know, they don't cost
Speaker 6: a lot. If it makes you feel better, by all.
Speaker 4: Means, get one. But I don't use one, and most
Speaker 4: of the people I know probably don't. So there's it's there.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: Again, there are real threats out there, but these charging
Speaker 4: stations are you know, juice jacking is not one of them.
Speaker 3: All Right, we're talking with Dan Goodin security editor at
Speaker 3: Ours Technical. So, Dan, you said there are some real
Speaker 3: threats to people out there.
Speaker 4: What should the.
Speaker 3: Average person be concerned about when it comes to their
Speaker 3: security on their phones and digital devices?
Speaker 4: Well, two things first is update your device, make sure
Speaker 4: that you're running the latest available firmware, whether it's you know,
Speaker 4: Android or iOS, and do it religiously.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: I mean, you don't have to update if the day
Speaker 6: it comes out, but you know, certainly within a week
Speaker 6: you should. You should never be running you know, you
Speaker 6: know Android or iOS, you know three or four versions earlier.
Speaker 4: So that's the first thing. The second thing is, you know,
Speaker 4: get your password house in order. But everybody I know
Speaker 4: has really bad password hygiene. They use the same password everywhere,
Speaker 4: They use weak passwords, things that are pretty easy to guess.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Really what people need to do is is do a
Speaker 4: little bit of research on something called a password manager
Speaker 4: and get one and use it and generate a separate
Speaker 4: password for every account they have. So you know, like
Speaker 4: a couple good password managers. One would be one password,
Speaker 4: this is one password and the other is a bit ward.
Speaker 4: So yeah, those are the two biggest things that people
Speaker 4: can do.
Speaker 3: But don't worry about the juice jacking. Charge your charge
Speaker 3: your phone at the airport without a worry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, absolutely all right.
Speaker 3: Dan Good and security editor at Ours Technica, Thanks so
Speaker 3: much for joining me today. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Great talking to you.
Speaker 3: Rich all right, you're listening to rich on Tech. More
Speaker 3: of the show and your calls at Triple eight. Rich
Speaker 3: one on one after this, Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Speaker 3: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology at
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Speaker 3: to send it to. Let's go to Diane in Pineland, Texas. Diane,
Speaker 3: you're on with Rich.
Speaker 7: Good morning or good afternoon. I have a desktop computer
Speaker 7: that was rebuilt and purchased it in twenty eighteen. It's
Speaker 7: running on Windows ten. I can't do it to Windows
Speaker 7: eleven update. But I'm sitting here at my desk and
Speaker 7: it keeps coming on by itself and turning off by itself.
Speaker 1: What and you're not touching anything on it?
Speaker 7: No, it just comes on for about two to five
Speaker 7: seconds and goes off.
Speaker 1: And what uh okay, so this is running Windows ten
Speaker 1: and what is it doing when it turns on?
Speaker 7: It just comes on. I don't have the monitor on,
Speaker 7: so it just comes on and it goes on.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you hear kind of like the hard drive
Speaker 1: spinning up and it kind of makes a fan sound
Speaker 1: and then it goes back off.
Speaker 7: Yes, I think it's got a.
Speaker 1: Demon Well, it could have you tried. Okay, so a
Speaker 1: couple things here. How when this only started once you
Speaker 1: got it fixed?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 7: No, it just started in the last month.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 7: It needs to do its Windows eleven update, but it
Speaker 7: doesn't have the proper equipment to do it, so I
Speaker 7: keep delaying the Window's eleven update.
Speaker 1: Now, what do you mean it doesn't have the proper equipment.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have the specs that you need.
Speaker 7: Yes, it doesn't have a specs.
Speaker 1: Okay, So here's what I would do to get the
Speaker 1: demon out of this machine. Okay, so this is what
Speaker 1: I would the the steps I would take is, first off,
Speaker 1: I would go through and I assume that they're I
Speaker 1: assume your computer's waking up to do something, and so
Speaker 1: it's probably a program that is trying to reach out
Speaker 1: onto the Internet and when it wants to do that.
Speaker 1: Since this is the desktop, it's pretty much always on.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of spinning up and it's checking whatever
Speaker 1: it needs to check, and then it's going back into
Speaker 1: its hibernation mode. So first off, I would make sure
Speaker 1: that you have all of your updates that you can
Speaker 1: install in this computer, make sure it's up to date,
Speaker 1: restart it, and then I would go through and I
Speaker 1: would uninstall any program that I do not recognize. So
Speaker 1: go into the programs directory and just uninstall anything that
Speaker 1: you don't recognize. You don't need any programs that you
Speaker 1: might have added in the last couple of weeks that
Speaker 1: this started happening with, and just get rid of those.
Speaker 1: Then I would restart my computer once again. If it's
Speaker 1: still happening, I would go into the sleep basically the
Speaker 1: sleep settings on your computer. You have Windows ten, so
Speaker 1: go into settings and then it's under power and sleep
Speaker 1: and so in those settings, you'll see that there's a
Speaker 1: couple of ones that are probably the most prominent, which
Speaker 1: is screen, So that's going to say how long it
Speaker 1: takes before the screen turns off, you know, goes dark
Speaker 1: after you stop using it. And then sleep will say
Speaker 1: how long your device will stay up before it goes
Speaker 1: to sleep. And then if you really want to see
Speaker 1: all of the settings, go into the additional power settings
Speaker 1: and kind of take a look through all of those things.
Speaker 1: And there are settings for you know, where it wakes
Speaker 1: up on network, where it wakes up to do things.
Speaker 1: So go into all of those settings and make sure
Speaker 1: they all look right. And then if this continues to
Speaker 1: happen at that point, I'm not sure. So I do
Speaker 1: know that computers do wake up to do things every
Speaker 1: once in a while, install updates and things like that,
Speaker 1: and maybe a computer program is on there that wants
Speaker 1: to do something. So that's those are the steps that
Speaker 1: I would take, and I think that's probably going to
Speaker 1: fix your situation. Now. If your computer is going to
Speaker 1: sleep when you don't want it to, there are little
Speaker 1: programs that can keep your computer awake even though you
Speaker 1: don't want it to be awake. I've got one online
Speaker 1: called aptly called Amphetamine, and when I click this on,
Speaker 1: for instance, right now, I turn it on before I
Speaker 1: start the radio show, and I say, do not go
Speaker 1: to sleep. And I can set it for indefinitely, minutes, hours,
Speaker 1: and all kinds of different things, but I set it
Speaker 1: for about three hours the time of the show, so
Speaker 1: my computer does not go to sleep at all the
Speaker 1: entire time I'm on the air. And then there's other
Speaker 1: times when I'm uploading something to dropbox, I may want
Speaker 1: it to continue that upload without going to sleep, and
Speaker 1: so I'll just say, hey, stay on for the next hour.
Speaker 1: But there are third party apps that can help you
Speaker 1: do that. They often have names like caffeine, caffe e,
Speaker 1: and petamine, So think drugs that keep you awake, and
Speaker 1: you might be able to find the programs to install
Speaker 1: in your computer that do that. But Diane, I don't
Speaker 1: think your computer is possessed, although these computers sometimes do
Speaker 1: feel that way. So good question, and thanks for calling in, Toda.
Speaker 1: I do appreciate that. All right, let's talk about the
Speaker 1: latest streaming service to grace the streaming waves. It is
Speaker 1: called Max. This is from Warner Brothers and Discovery. So
Speaker 1: if you have HBO Max, yes, you will be getting
Speaker 1: access to a new streaming service starting May twenty third.
Speaker 1: It's just called Max. What's it going to have all
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff HBO original shows, Warner Brothers movies, Max Originals,
Speaker 1: that's the stuff from the original HBO Max, the DC Universe,
Speaker 1: Harry Potter, HGTV, Food Network, Discovery Channel, tlc ID which
Speaker 1: is very very popular, the crime stuff people love that programming.
Speaker 1: That will all be on Max. Now they used to
Speaker 1: have HBO Max and Discovery Plus. This is pretty much
Speaker 1: e merging of those two streaming services, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't think they've given a date for both of
Speaker 1: those to go away just yet. But if you have
Speaker 1: HBO Max currently, you'll get access to Max at your
Speaker 1: same price, at least for now. HBO Max launched on
Speaker 1: May twenty seventh, twenty twenty. It feels like it was
Speaker 1: just yesterday and now already this is kind of merging
Speaker 1: into or morphing, i should say, into something else. So
Speaker 1: three pricing options for the new Max the ad LTE version,
Speaker 1: which means you're gonna have ADS with your programming. That's
Speaker 1: nine to ninety nine a month or one hundred dollars
Speaker 1: for the year. And I would recommend if you can,
Speaker 1: if you can do it, pay in advance for the
Speaker 1: whole year, because if you're going to be subscribing to
Speaker 1: this for a while over time, you will save a
Speaker 1: lot of money. It's like eight thirty a month versus
Speaker 1: ten bucks, and it's a dollar sixty every month. Two
Speaker 1: concurrent streams for that ten eighty resolution, no offline downloads
Speaker 1: which means if you're flying on a plane, you can't
Speaker 1: bring this with you. And five point one surround sound. Now,
Speaker 1: if you want to upgrade to the next plan, it's
Speaker 1: called Max AD free. That's sixteen dollars a month or
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty dollars for the year that gives
Speaker 1: you two streams at once, ten eighty resolution, thirty downloads offline,
Speaker 1: and five point one that's actually a little bit worse
Speaker 1: than what you're currently getting, and they only guaranteed if
Speaker 1: you're currently paying for that sixteen dollars a month with
Speaker 1: HBO Max, that you're only going to get that for
Speaker 1: six months guaranteed before they have the option to change
Speaker 1: it to this lesser plan that's not as good for
Speaker 1: the same price you're paying, by the way, because right
Speaker 1: now you're getting three streams plus four K plus ATMOS,
Speaker 1: so that's gonna be downgraded if you want those things.
Speaker 1: Guess what you're going to be paying more for the
Speaker 1: ultimate ad free plan, which is twenty dollars a month
Speaker 1: or two hundred dollars a year, that gives you four
Speaker 1: streams at the same time, four K resolution, one hundred
Speaker 1: off line downloads Dolby atmost. So again, you're only guaranteed
Speaker 1: if you're a subscriber right now, to get your current
Speaker 1: features for six months following launch. But this is the thing,
Speaker 1: they're going to have more than forty new titles and
Speaker 1: seasons every month. That's a lot of programming they're really
Speaker 1: taking on Netflix right here, things like Harry Potter, a
Speaker 1: prequel to the Game of Thrones, a new comedy series
Speaker 1: from the folks behind Big Bang Theory, or I Guess
Speaker 1: the World of Big Bang Theory, Magnolia Networks, Fixer Upper,
Speaker 1: The Hotel, TLC's Love and Translation, a whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 1: But again, this all starts on May twenty third. If
Speaker 1: you have HBO Max, you don't need to change a thing.
Speaker 1: You just need to know that on May twenty third
Speaker 1: you may have to download a new app called Max.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they're just gonna morphit into Max,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like right now you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: download a new app and kind of switch over. All
Speaker 1: of your history and watch list will switch over to
Speaker 1: the new the new streaming service. But again, just so
Speaker 1: many changes with this stuff. It's tough to keep up
Speaker 1: with it because there are many many changes all right,
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Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 1: This week, I upgraded my smart home because Google finally
Speaker 1: came out with the feature I have been waiting for forever,
Speaker 1: and that is support for motion sensors. This is something
Speaker 1: that was supported by Apple's Home Kit and also Amazon's
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to say the word a
Speaker 1: alex a platform, and so you've been able to do
Speaker 1: motion sensing with all of those platforms, but Google never
Speaker 1: natively supported it. And so I just happened to look
Speaker 1: inside the Google Home app and I was like, let
Speaker 1: me take another look here, and sure enough, you can
Speaker 1: now do routines based on motion. So I went through
Speaker 1: and it ruined my whole day. I just went through
Speaker 1: and started redoing everything because I've got certain lights I
Speaker 1: want to come on when you walk by a motion
Speaker 1: sensor turn off when you're you know, forget to turn
Speaker 1: them off. All that good stuff. So if you've got
Speaker 1: Google Home and you've been waiting for motion sensor support,
Speaker 1: it is now there. I don't know when it came
Speaker 1: to the app or when it came to the system,
Speaker 1: but it's there. And all of these home smart home
Speaker 1: systems are getting a lot better thanks to something called
Speaker 1: Matter and Thread. So Matter is this new standard that
Speaker 1: is really phenomenal because it is now a standard across Amazon, Google,
Speaker 1: and Apple, which means if you buy a device like
Speaker 1: a plug or a light, they will now work with
Speaker 1: all and Samsung by the way, they will work with
Speaker 1: all of those different smart home platforms, which is really
Speaker 1: really cool because if you start with Apple and you
Speaker 1: get all the stuff that's Matter, and then you say, eh,
Speaker 1: I'm switching Android, I'm switching a Google, you can now
Speaker 1: switch all of your smart home stuff over to Google.
Speaker 1: Or if you say I'm starting with alex A, you know,
Speaker 1: Amazon's platform, and then you want to switch over to Google,
Speaker 1: you can do that. So it's really smart that all
Speaker 1: of these big companies have come together and said, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: we will all decide on one standard. That works with everything.
Speaker 1: And I set up my first Matter smart plug yesterday
Speaker 1: and it worked like a charm. You just scan a QR.
Speaker 1: It actually found it as soon as I opened the app.
Speaker 1: I plugged it in, opened up the Google Home app
Speaker 1: and I said, Hey, do you want to set up
Speaker 1: this plug? I said yes, And you scan a QR
Speaker 1: code on the plug and it is set up very
Speaker 1: very quickly. So thank you tech companies for actually working
Speaker 1: together for once. We live in so many silos with
Speaker 1: this tech stuff that it's refreshing when stuff works together.
Speaker 1: All right, Phone lines open triple eight Rich one oh
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight seven four to two four to
Speaker 1: one zero one, John and mission Viejo. You're on the line.
Speaker 1: Welcome to rich on Tech.
Speaker 10: Oh, thank you for taking my call. I have a desktop.
Speaker 10: It's an all in one Lenovo. It's running eight point one,
Speaker 10: and what I'm trying to do is to avoid buying
Speaker 10: a brand new one so that way I can run
Speaker 10: Windows eleven. So I was wondering if I can install
Speaker 10: Windows eleven on my current all in one and just
Speaker 10: get rid of eight point one all together. So I
Speaker 10: need to know where I can find my system requirements
Speaker 10: for Windows eleven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they used to have a website that you can
Speaker 1: go to and check, but it does not run on
Speaker 1: Windows eight point one. So you can look at the specs,
Speaker 1: but you can't do the automatic system checker that they
Speaker 1: have for the rest of the computers. Now, is your
Speaker 1: computer giving you a message that you can upgrade to
Speaker 1: Windows ten?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, have you tried upgrading to Windows ten in the settings?
Speaker 1: Does it give you that option when you go to
Speaker 1: your update settings?
Speaker 10: I don't know. I would have to look.
Speaker 1: Okay, So first thing I would do, probably the easiest thing,
Speaker 1: is to migrate to Windows ten first, and then once
Speaker 1: you it's kind of like a leaping or climbing a ladder.
Speaker 1: First you want to get to ten, and then you
Speaker 1: can jump to eleven. You can leap frog ten and
Speaker 1: go directly to eleven, but it's a lot more complicated
Speaker 1: and your computer may not support this. How many years
Speaker 1: old is this computer?
Speaker 10: Oh? My goodness, probably about three to four years.
Speaker 1: Well, that's not that old. I mean that's in computer world.
Speaker 1: That's not I mean, yes, it's older, but it's not
Speaker 1: like ten years. So there are some basic requirements for
Speaker 1: Windows eleven that are different from Windows ten. Is there
Speaker 1: a reason why you want Windows eleven versus Windows ten.
Speaker 1: Is it just because it's newer?
Speaker 10: Yes? And the EOL, as you told me before for
Speaker 10: Windows ten, is going to end in a couple of
Speaker 10: years anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean you still get I think it's
Speaker 1: like twenty twenty five, so you still got a good,
Speaker 1: you know, two and a half years to go. I think,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know the exact let me say
Speaker 1: Windows Windows ten end of life. It is October fourteenth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, so you've got, you know, two and
Speaker 1: a half years to go, So I would okay, So
Speaker 1: what I would do is I would first see if
Speaker 1: this computer can get to Windows ten from the native
Speaker 1: kind of Windows Update screen, and that's going to be
Speaker 1: the easiest way. Once you get to Windows ten, you
Speaker 1: can keep everything updated if you If it works with
Speaker 1: Windows ten, that's great, And if it can't go to eleven,
Speaker 1: that's fine. You still got two and a half more
Speaker 1: years ahead of you to plan for a new system.
Speaker 1: The main thing about Windows eleven is there are two
Speaker 1: things that it requires that are a little bit trickier,
Speaker 1: and it comes to security, and so it's a system
Speaker 1: firmware that is a secure boot capable, which is like
Speaker 1: a next level thing that some of the older computers
Speaker 1: didn't have. And then this TPM Trusted Platform Module version
Speaker 1: two point zero, and again a lot of the older
Speaker 1: computers didn't have that. So your computer may or may
Speaker 1: not have those things. It's not easy to check to
Speaker 1: see if you have those unless you can go to
Speaker 1: Windows ten and then you can do the Windows eleven checker.
Speaker 1: But I would try to go to your settings, your
Speaker 1: software update settings and see if Windows ten can run,
Speaker 1: and then get there and then see if it gives
Speaker 1: you the option for Windows eleven, and then go there.
Speaker 1: If you cannot run Windows ten or eleven on this computer,
Speaker 1: you may want to install something called Chrome os flex.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of that?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 10: I have not.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of a chromebook?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 12: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, So basically this will turn this computer into a chromebook.
Speaker 1: And what that means is that you'll get access to
Speaker 1: pretty much all of the things you can do on
Speaker 1: a chromebook, which is pretty much a glorified web browser.
Speaker 1: But unless you're running anything special, do you do anything
Speaker 1: on this computer besides the web?
Speaker 10: No? Just web and some financial stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean you're probably using mostly web applications.
Speaker 1: So if you can't get to Windows ten or eleven
Speaker 1: on this computer, you can still squeeze a lot of
Speaker 1: life out of it by installing Chrome os Flex. It's
Speaker 1: pretty easy to install. It works on a wide variety
Speaker 1: of computers, both Mac and PC, and the installation when
Speaker 1: I did it, you can run it right off a
Speaker 1: USB drive and it's pretty simple, and it's free. By
Speaker 1: the way. It's put out by Google. So I haven't
Speaker 1: tested it in a while because I tested it when
Speaker 1: it first came out and I just wanted to see
Speaker 1: how it runs. It was a little bit choppy and flaky,
Speaker 1: but it's been a couple of years now and I
Speaker 1: think things have gotten better, so I would look into
Speaker 1: those things. So you've got your list now, Jean, of
Speaker 1: things you got to do.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm thinking I'm just may. I just may go
Speaker 10: ahead and just buy a whole news.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, don't buy the new system. Try look.
Speaker 1: The number one thing to do is just go to
Speaker 1: Windows type, you know, press the Windows key and then
Speaker 1: type in or navigate to Windows Update. See what it
Speaker 1: gives you there. If it gives you the Windows ten option,
Speaker 1: then you can upgrade to Windows ten very easily, and
Speaker 1: then you can just stop and take a breather. Take
Speaker 1: a breather for six months, and then you can check
Speaker 1: out and see if you can go to Windows eleven.
Speaker 1: There's no need to go to Windows eleven right now.
Speaker 1: And if none of those things work, just go to
Speaker 1: the Chrome, Google Chrome os Flex and if you're comfortable
Speaker 1: with downloading software to USB drive, I guarantee you can
Speaker 1: get this installed in your computer. And if all those
Speaker 1: things don't work, yes, then you can find yourself at
Speaker 1: the store and get a new computer. But try to
Speaker 1: give this computer some new life.
Speaker 10: Okay, Well, thank you very much for the information. I
Speaker 10: really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: All right, John, thanks for listening there, and miss Mission
Speaker 1: Vieho do appreciate that, okay. So let me just give
Speaker 1: you an update on this whole Western Digital hacking situation.
Speaker 1: So Western Digital I talked about a couple weeks ago
Speaker 1: that their systems were down. You couldn't access the cloud
Speaker 1: on all their drives, all their connected drives. I got
Speaker 1: a message from Western Digital that the online services are
Speaker 1: back up and running. So if you have Western Digital,
Speaker 1: MyCloud or a sand disc eb you can get back
Speaker 1: into your drives. From the web. So that's the good news.
Speaker 1: The bad news is the hackers that did this say
Speaker 1: they've got about ten terabytes of stolen data from the company,
Speaker 1: including a whole bunch of customer information, according to tech Crunch,
Speaker 1: and they want Western Digital to pay them a minimum
Speaker 1: of eight figures in exchange for not publishing the stolen data.
Speaker 1: What does this mean for you? It means that immediately
Speaker 1: you should be changing your password for anything Western Digital related,
Speaker 1: and you should also be taking sort of an account
Speaker 1: of what you have stored in your Western Digital drives
Speaker 1: and just know that there could be a potential breach
Speaker 1: of some of those files. Will it happen, We don't know,
Speaker 1: but you have to kind of see what you have.
Speaker 1: If it's just your pictures and things like that, okay,
Speaker 1: not the end of the world. Obviously, we store a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff in our photo collections, so it could
Speaker 1: be pictures of your driver's license, social scurity number, all
Speaker 1: that stuff. There's a potential for this stuff to get out.
Speaker 1: Western Digital has not said what these hackers have. Neither
Speaker 1: have the hackers, so we don't know the extent of
Speaker 1: this data breach, but it's just good to know about it.
Speaker 1: And take stock of what you have stored on these drives,
Speaker 1: because that's the important part, is just knowing what you
Speaker 1: have there. So if you know what you have there,
Speaker 1: you change your passwords. That's really the best you can
Speaker 1: do right now. There's not much more you can do,
Speaker 1: but it's just to be aware of this situation, because
Speaker 1: that's the important part right there, all right. Coming up
Speaker 1: on the show, we are going to talk about NFL
Speaker 1: Sunday ticket for the first time, it is going to YouTube.
Speaker 1: What does that mean for football fans. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about that in a little bit. Plus I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you how to save old voice messages off your voicemail
Speaker 1: plus your calls triple eight rich one on one eight
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Speaker 1: more rich on Tech Coming. Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology. I'm
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Speaker 1: latest links. So TV during the week radio on the weekends.
Speaker 1: Coming up, we are going to talk about NFL Sunday
Speaker 1: ticket first time in history. You can watch it on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Now it's not gonna be free, but i'll explain. We've
Speaker 1: got a guest, Ben Fisher of Sports Business Journal. He's
Speaker 1: going to join us coming up next to talk all
Speaker 1: about NFL Sunday Ticket. So I mentioned before the break,
Speaker 1: got an email from Mike. Mike writes in at Hello
Speaker 1: at richontech dot TV. Hey, I was hoping you would
Speaker 1: know how my wife and I could save old voice
Speaker 1: messages off our old phone recorder, hoping you might have
Speaker 1: a recommendation who could digitally capture the recordings. So it
Speaker 1: depends that if it's an old phone recorder, I assume
Speaker 1: it does not have any sort of audio out jack.
Speaker 1: If it did, be pretty easy just plug a cable
Speaker 1: in out from the jack into your computer and press
Speaker 1: record on your computer, play the old messages, and you've
Speaker 1: got it. I assume that's not the case because you're
Speaker 1: emailing me, so it sounds much more complicated. And I
Speaker 1: assume there is no way to get these voicemails off
Speaker 1: of there easily. So what I would do is a
Speaker 1: couple of things. And I get this question very often
Speaker 1: when it comes to smartphones and people always want to know,
Speaker 1: how do I save? It's kind of a sentimental voicemail,
Speaker 1: and on Android and iOS it's very very easy. So
Speaker 1: if you use the Visual Voicemail app, which it's built
Speaker 1: into iPhone and on Android it's typically built in, or
Speaker 1: you can download it from your provider if you have
Speaker 1: Cricket or Mint Mobile whoever, they usually have their own
Speaker 1: standalone visual voicemail apps. So you download the app and
Speaker 1: then usually the app on Android has a share button,
Speaker 1: so you get to the message you want to save
Speaker 1: and you press share and then you can share it
Speaker 1: out wherever you want. It'll share the recording, so you
Speaker 1: can share that to a cloud drive. I would share it.
Speaker 1: You could share it to your email address, whatever you want,
Speaker 1: but that's one way. And then on iOS, same thing.
Speaker 1: When you tap into the voicemail on your phone, tap
Speaker 1: into it, press the I or sorry, just tap into
Speaker 1: the voicemail itself and then you'll see an arrow up
Speaker 1: near the top. That's the share arrow. You press that
Speaker 1: share arrow and it says audio recording and you can
Speaker 1: now share that however you want, share it to a
Speaker 1: cloud drive, whatever you want to do. Now if your
Speaker 1: phone is old school it has a three point five
Speaker 1: millimeter jack, a headphone jack, it's even easier. Well, I
Speaker 1: guess not easier, it's just you can do it a
Speaker 1: different way. But you can take that and plug a
Speaker 1: you know, just get like an audio cable three point
Speaker 1: five to three point five and plug that jack into
Speaker 1: your computer, into the headphone jack, and just record the
Speaker 1: voicemail into your computer. And on Mac you can use
Speaker 1: something like QuickTime. On Windows, you can use a voice recorder.
Speaker 1: And if you have a newer phone you want to
Speaker 1: do this, you might need a converter, so like a
Speaker 1: little adapter. So if your phone does not have a
Speaker 1: headphone jack and you want to save those messages, you
Speaker 1: might need to get like a USB C to three
Speaker 1: point five millimeter converter or a lightning to three point five.
Speaker 1: But if you need those, you'd probably have a modern smartphone,
Speaker 1: so you don't really need to use those adapters. You
Speaker 1: would just use the voicemail app like I mentioned. Now,
Speaker 1: the final way, and I think, Mike, this is the
Speaker 1: way that you're going to have to do it is
Speaker 1: good old fashioned speaker phone. So just play the audio
Speaker 1: off the phone recorder on the speaker and just put
Speaker 1: your smartphone next to it and press record and that's it.
Speaker 1: I mean, the audio quality is not going to be perfect,
Speaker 1: but it's going to be better than losing the message.
Speaker 1: So those are many, many ways of doing this. And yes, again,
Speaker 1: the easiest way is if you have a modern smartphone.
Speaker 1: It's very, very easy to save the audio from that smartphone.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Linda in Orange County, California. Linda, you
Speaker 1: are on with Rich. How can I help?
Speaker 9: Yes, good morning, Rich, Thank you so much for taking
Speaker 9: my call. I should have made this call lot many,
Speaker 9: many many years ago, twenty and fourteen at five am
Speaker 9: in the morning. I'm listening, that's the key word, because
Speaker 9: I'm a person that's blind to you talking about the
Speaker 9: smart speakers a miss a, and I thought, gosh, this
Speaker 9: sounds really fabulous. And I start calling my friends and
Speaker 9: my friends that are visually impaired and blind, letting them
Speaker 9: know this is an amazing new tool. We've got to
Speaker 9: buy this. And so I talked to my husband. He said,
Speaker 9: that's Amazon Prime. I'm not paying you know, an extra
Speaker 9: ninety nine dollars or whatever it was at the time
Speaker 9: for Amazon Prime just for you know something that you want,
Speaker 9: and I'm thinking, gee, all my other friends are getting
Speaker 9: this and I want it, and blah blah blah. So
Speaker 9: I finally call Amazon and they said, you know, we
Speaker 9: didn't even realize that there were so many people with
Speaker 9: low vision or total blindness that are thinking about using
Speaker 9: our smart speaker for what it is that they want
Speaker 9: to know. So I need to say thank you, honest
Speaker 9: to goodness. Eventually did get my smart speaker, and I
Speaker 9: still have the original and it's just been a fabulous
Speaker 9: tool and it has grown and developed, just like you know,
Speaker 9: all the other wonderful smart accessible tools. So my first
Speaker 9: of all, I just want to say thank you for that.
Speaker 1: I think I love that you remember the date that
Speaker 1: I change your life. I'm taking a lot of credit here,
Speaker 1: but I love that you remember that it was twenty
Speaker 1: fourteen May.
Speaker 9: So well I asked it. I asked miss A before
Speaker 9: I called it, just so I would have that information.
Speaker 9: So what I'm asking you is if you would implement it.
Speaker 9: Doesn't have to be every week, might be once a
Speaker 9: month some sort of new accessible tool that a person
Speaker 9: with visual impairment might be able to use. I must
Speaker 9: say I am very involved with the Brill Institute. They
Speaker 9: have workshops, they have it people.
Speaker 1: Before you get cut off, I've got to go to break.
Speaker 1: But I love the suggestion one hundred percent. I agree,
Speaker 1: and I do try to keep this into consideration with
Speaker 1: both TV and radio. But Linda, because of what you said,
Speaker 1: I will always keep it top of mind. Okay, I
Speaker 1: really appreciate the call. We're gonna come back and talk
Speaker 1: NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube. You're listening to rich on
Speaker 1: Tech eight and eight seven four to two, four to
Speaker 1: one zero one. Welcome back to rich on Tech rich
Speaker 1: DeMuro Here. Rich on tech dot tv is the website
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Speaker 1: seven four to two, four to one zero one if
Speaker 1: you have a question about technology, or give me an
Speaker 1: email hello at rich on tech dot Tv. Joining me
Speaker 1: now is Ben Fisher. He covers all things sports and
Speaker 1: NFL at Sports Business Journal.
Speaker 3: Ben.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me today.
Speaker 10: Happy to be here.
Speaker 1: Uh So, I heard you told you said it was
Speaker 1: going to be nice in New York this weekend.
Speaker 4: Is it not as nice as anticipated? But it's not
Speaker 4: actually raining yet and I'm still wearing shorts, So we're
Speaker 4: going to call it a win. Okay, New York standards.
Speaker 1: Well, that's good, that's good. We've been having my parents
Speaker 1: live out in New Jersey and they think they had
Speaker 1: They said they had like a ninety degree day yesterday
Speaker 1: or something like that, or the day before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been strangely hot. Yeah, so it's a little
Speaker 4: bit off as high as today, but still pretty nice.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, it's been cold and rainy in California. Okay, so
Speaker 1: let's talk about the big announcement this week. Everyone was
Speaker 1: wondering what YouTube was going to do with NFL Sunday ticket.
Speaker 1: How much did they pay? Do we ever hear how
Speaker 1: much they paid for this?
Speaker 4: Two point two billions is the number for houp up
Speaker 4: from Direct TV one point five.
Speaker 1: An Okay, so that's every year two point two billion
Speaker 1: dollars a year. Yes, that's like an insane amount of money.
Speaker 4: Well, it's the NFL, and they have decided that they
Speaker 4: are that important to people and they for the longest time,
Speaker 4: we were skeptical they could get an increase over the
Speaker 4: one five because DirecTV said for a long time that,
Speaker 4: you know, the economics didn't really make sense for them,
Speaker 4: and that's why it was out for open bids. So
Speaker 4: there's a lot of skepticism. It took them a long
Speaker 4: time to get this fuel done, and you know, I
Speaker 4: never bet against the NFL getting their money, but for
Speaker 4: the longest time, it seems like nobody wanted to pay
Speaker 4: more than DirectTV was. Then Google YouTube came in and
Speaker 4: sure did.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, it looks like YouTube is bringing in like
Speaker 1: almost thirty billion for Google every year, so I guess
Speaker 1: they can afford it all right. So the announcement is
Speaker 1: that NFL Sunday Ticket will be on YouTube TV. But
Speaker 1: you don't even have to subscribe to YouTube TV. You
Speaker 1: can get it on YouTube as well through their new
Speaker 1: service called Primetime Channels. So this is also the first
Speaker 1: time that it's available without a satellite dish. So can
Speaker 1: you explain kind of like where we stand with this
Speaker 1: this here, Well.
Speaker 4: That's a big, big change for the user experience the
Speaker 4: direct TV because you know, obviously nineteen ninety four one
Speaker 4: direct TV or when when Sunday Ticket was created, satellite
Speaker 4: was the way to do something like this. Honestly, for
Speaker 4: ten years now, to least people in you know, with
Speaker 4: high speed internet and thought satellite was behind the time.
Speaker 4: It's you know, we all know you can't get satellite
Speaker 4: if you're in a big apartment accomplex. There's lots of
Speaker 4: inherent limitations on it. So this is frankly long overdue
Speaker 4: as far as getting it over to a broad brand
Speaker 4: broadband streamer in terms of making it more available and
Speaker 4: doing all the things that we expect modern video distribution
Speaker 4: to be able to do. But it's not without its
Speaker 4: costs too. There's other questions that are raised by switching
Speaker 4: off something that you know, for better or worse, is
Speaker 4: at least really is established a mature technology, and you know,
Speaker 4: live sports on broadband at scale is still a bit
Speaker 4: of a you know, questionable proposition on just how well
Speaker 4: it works. But clearly this is coming to everyone wanted
Speaker 4: to happen for some time.
Speaker 1: Okay, But the big question is if you know satellite
Speaker 1: was easy because it was connected to your TV, you
Speaker 1: already knew how to access it. I imagine there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of people that have maybe don't don't
Speaker 1: really know how to access this on their TV. So
Speaker 1: especially if they don't have YouTube TV. I guess they
Speaker 1: have YouTube many people, But you know, I'm just thinking
Speaker 1: of someone like, you know, my mom may not know
Speaker 1: or my dad may not know how to get this
Speaker 1: on their TV. So how will people access this?
Speaker 13: Well, that is part of the problem with that was
Speaker 13: all of sports going over the street that even people
Speaker 13: that know their way around their TV interface, like you know,
Speaker 13: it's a little bit harder to get.
Speaker 4: To Amazon Prime or whatever Thursday night. And if you've
Speaker 4: got YouTube TV, I mean a lot of people speak
Speaker 4: really highly about that is effectively replaced in the old
Speaker 4: cable bundle and you might have that integrated into your
Speaker 4: smart TV, or you can just go on to your
Speaker 4: laptop and go to YouTube and we'll watch it there
Speaker 4: to the Prime channels. I think you hit on something,
Speaker 4: just like the nuts and bolts of watching this is
Speaker 4: more complicated, and we all know that, like there's a
Speaker 4: thousand different smart TV in our faces, so you know
Speaker 4: exact I wouldn't even be able to tell you exactly
Speaker 4: how to do it because there's so many variables involved
Speaker 4: with how your particular setup is working. And that's that's
Speaker 4: part of the thing they've got to fight through on this.
Speaker 1: I think part of it is pushing people to YouTube TV,
Speaker 1: but almost needlessly because yes, I have YouTube TV. It's
Speaker 1: very simple. If I sign up for NFL Sunday Ticket,
Speaker 1: it'll just integrate itself into my program guide. But you
Speaker 1: don't need that. You can actually just get this as
Speaker 1: a channel through YouTube, which sounds weird because this is
Speaker 1: a brand new feature as well. So people don't even
Speaker 1: you know, they're not they're not even understanding the concept
Speaker 1: of the fact that you can subscribe to something through YouTube,
Speaker 1: and so I think a lot of people will probably
Speaker 1: needlessly subscribe to YouTube TV and pay that extra you know,
Speaker 1: seventy five bucks a month whatever they're charging now just
Speaker 1: to get this NFL Sunday ticket before let's let's talk
Speaker 1: the pricing now, So, uh, do you want to rattle
Speaker 1: off the pricing? Do you know it off the top
Speaker 1: of your head or you want me to do it?
Speaker 4: Well, Anticipating this moment, I went back to see my
Speaker 4: tweets from Tuesday morning. So for a baseline Direct TV
Speaker 4: Sunday ticket with two eighty nine a year, this is
Speaker 4: going to be anywhere from two forty nine to four
Speaker 4: to forty nine, depending on whether you've got Sunday or
Speaker 4: you've got YouTube TV already. There discount's involved. If you're
Speaker 4: a subscriber before June.
Speaker 1: And six, Okay, so, uh.
Speaker 4: It's going to be more expensive, but if you're a
Speaker 4: subscriber any sign up before June and six, it will
Speaker 4: be slightly less expensive.
Speaker 1: So if you're a YouTube tv member already, you can
Speaker 1: get this for two forty nine for this season. That's
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars off the regular price of three forty nine.
Speaker 1: And that is until I think you just said this,
Speaker 1: June sixth, So if you get it right now, you
Speaker 1: can get that deal now. If you want Sunday ticket
Speaker 1: with red zone, that is three nine or two eighty
Speaker 1: nine during the pre sale or three eighty nine after that.
Speaker 1: And then if you just want it all by itself,
Speaker 1: let's see, do I have the price for that? That
Speaker 1: is three forty nine or four forty nine after June sixth,
Speaker 1: and then if you want the red zone, it's three
Speaker 1: eighty nine versus forty nine. So again, even though this
Speaker 1: is somewhat simpler, it's still confusing because how much was
Speaker 1: it with Direct TV?
Speaker 4: Well, it's two eighty nine on top of whatever you
Speaker 4: were already paying for Direct TV.
Speaker 1: Okay, So theoretically, if you're getting this on its own
Speaker 1: with the primetime channels for three forty nine. That's pretty
Speaker 1: good because you don't you can just not pay anything
Speaker 1: else on top of that, which is which is actually
Speaker 1: a deal because you don't have to pay the DirecTV
Speaker 1: you know, the base plan whatever you had to pay
Speaker 1: there before.
Speaker 4: Right, Which which is interesting because very business justification for YouTube, Google,
Speaker 4: Google YouTube doing this is to drive subscriptions, like they
Speaker 4: definitely want you to find Sunday Ticket to be a
Speaker 4: path to YouTube TV subscriptions. So I don't think, look
Speaker 4: well them to do this without some way of buying
Speaker 4: it on its own to the primetime channel. But the
Speaker 4: idea here this works out well, that just works out
Speaker 4: best for YouTube if you become a YouTube TV subscribe, right.
Speaker 1: And my feeling is, and by the way, you might
Speaker 1: want to move just a little bit where we're losing
Speaker 1: your signal. My feeling is that YouTube is specifically going
Speaker 1: to promote more of the TV part of this, because
Speaker 1: you're right, it gives them an extra seventy five dollars
Speaker 1: a month for people who may not know that they
Speaker 1: can subscribe to this through YouTube, and YouTube has an
Speaker 1: app for almost every single thing out there, so you'd
Speaker 1: be able to get this on pretty much any device
Speaker 1: you can think of. Now, YouTube TV will give you
Speaker 1: some other things like the DVR storage, the recommendations, the
Speaker 1: key plays, the fantasy data, real time stats, you know,
Speaker 1: all those abilities. So there's a lot more that I
Speaker 1: think the YouTube TV brings you, But we'll see. So
Speaker 1: what do you think? What's your kind of final consensus
Speaker 1: on this whole thing. Do you think this is a
Speaker 1: good thing? You think people are ready for this change?
Speaker 4: Well, like I said at the top, I think switching
Speaker 4: from satellite technology to broadband streaming is long overdue. It's
Speaker 4: hardly perfect, but satellite had so many problems. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, I couldn't even get satellite my apartment complex
Speaker 4: for a long this time. So and I understand not
Speaker 4: everyone's got realized with broadband, but I'd say, on balance,
Speaker 4: this makes it more available to more people. I think
Speaker 4: the streaming technology allows the you know, the real time
Speaker 4: stats integration. I think there's something to advertise with integration
Speaker 4: with NFL dot com where you can sort of you know,
Speaker 4: watch it, but also integrate with like real time with
Speaker 4: with stats and fantasy and you know, and like you
Speaker 4: even hear people talk about, you know, NFL sponsors like
Speaker 4: Budweiser or bud Light and PEPSI you know, be able
Speaker 4: to you can get you refill your beer with one
Speaker 4: click through a through a streaming and that stuff obviously
Speaker 4: would be fantasy and satellite. So it's better from a
Speaker 4: technological standpoint. I still think the economic so the out
Speaker 4: of market package is really tough here because I'm a
Speaker 4: football fan. I cover the NFL for a living, and
Speaker 4: I still think, I don't know, that's a lot of
Speaker 4: money for the out of market games. I mean, all
Speaker 4: the best games by definition on the national TV anyway,
Speaker 4: So I guess it's certainly better on stream, and I
Speaker 4: still think there's some fundamental questions about the pricing. And
Speaker 4: you know who exactly this is for. You've got to
Speaker 4: be a pretty die hard fan, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: You got to be a die hard fan that lives
Speaker 1: in a city that you're still following a team in
Speaker 1: your old city because you know, thanks to the way
Speaker 1: these economics are still working out, you still don't get
Speaker 1: the games that are being played in your own city,
Speaker 1: which is to me the biggest issue with this whole situation,
Speaker 1: and one that Apple has figured out with the MLS
Speaker 1: because they're doing everything without sort of blackouts. And so
Speaker 1: that's really what we need next in NFL. Perhaps, Ben,
Speaker 1: we'll see that next time I.
Speaker 4: Talk to you. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: hard to say where this all goes. I think the
Speaker 4: NFL loves being an old fashion and broadcast over the
Speaker 4: air TV because that's still the best way to reach
Speaker 4: the most people. But you know, that's a chice they
Speaker 4: make because that's that's a different economic model than going
Speaker 4: through like MLS and Apple is doing. And you're right,
Speaker 4: that solves a lot of problems because you have no
Speaker 4: questions about MLS games if you just sign up with
Speaker 4: Apple these bags, right, And that's the simplicity goes a
Speaker 4: long way and the complicated internet subscription based dealing experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and with two point two billion dollars on the
Speaker 1: line every year, they've got to figure out to make
Speaker 1: sure this is all all worth it and they preserve
Speaker 1: the income that they're they're generating off of these games
Speaker 1: that are both on streaming and of course regular TV.
Speaker 1: Ben Fisher of Sports Business Journal, We're going to leave
Speaker 1: it there. Thanks so much for joining me today, Thanks
Speaker 1: for having me all right, appreciate it all right, Coming
Speaker 1: up next, we are going to take more of your
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Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two, four to one zero one.
Speaker 1: If you have a question, give me a call. Coming up,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you about LinkedIn, how you can verify
Speaker 1: yourself to say who you are, make sure you are
Speaker 1: who you say you are and where you work. You're
Speaker 1: listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here talking technology with you. Yep, this is
Speaker 1: my all time favorite song. Love that song. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about LinkedIn. Do you love LinkedIn? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of I'm kind of like eh about LinkedIn.
Speaker 1: I'm sure people get jobs from LinkedIn and get kind
Speaker 1: of figure out stuff, but it's never really been that
Speaker 1: valuable or useful to me except for researching folks. So
Speaker 1: if I want to talk to someone in an interview
Speaker 1: or whatever for you know, one of my programs, it's great,
Speaker 1: but you know, I find that some people don't update it,
Speaker 1: so I mean it's good. But the main thing about
Speaker 1: LinkedIn that kind of bugs me is that when you
Speaker 1: want to contact someone, it's like you have all their
Speaker 1: information about them, but not a way to necessarily contact them.
Speaker 1: And sure LinkedIn gives you like a little place where
Speaker 1: you can message them. But who checks their LinkedIn messages?
Speaker 1: I certainly don't, so I mean maybe people do. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe that's why I'm not getting value out
Speaker 1: of LinkedIn because I'm not checking my messages. But we
Speaker 1: know that there is a problem with fake people and
Speaker 1: bots and all these things on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram.
Speaker 1: LinkedIn has always been a place where pretty much if
Speaker 1: someone's on there, they're real. But there's also a lot
Speaker 1: of scams on LinkedIn. People get scammed by, you know,
Speaker 1: job things and offers and people trying to get them
Speaker 1: to do a job and it's not real and it's
Speaker 1: just trying to get their information. So you do have
Speaker 1: to be careful on LinkedIn, and I think LinkedIn knows that.
Speaker 1: And so they are now rolling out three new ways
Speaker 1: to verify your identity and where you work. And unlike
Speaker 1: the new identity verification programs on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook,
Speaker 1: this is totally free. So a couple ways to do this.
Speaker 1: Number One, you can verify your identity with clear. These
Speaker 1: are the same folks that you see at the airport.
Speaker 1: You can now you know, they've got this technology that
Speaker 1: helps identify who people are, and so they're going to
Speaker 1: put that same technology to work right here on LinkedIn.
Speaker 1: So beginning this month, you can display on your profile
Speaker 1: that you've verified with Clear, and all you have to
Speaker 1: do is upload your ID government issued ID, which I
Speaker 1: don't know if i'd be feel secure doing that, and
Speaker 1: your US phone number. So you basically take a selfie
Speaker 1: and submit your ID and they link them up and
Speaker 1: then your phone number and now you can say, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm verified by Clear. Second way is company email. This
Speaker 1: seems a lot easier in my opinion, So you can
Speaker 1: put your company email into LinkedIn and it will kind
Speaker 1: of go on the back end verify since obviously you
Speaker 1: can receive an email and a confirmation at that email
Speaker 1: that okay, this person actually works at this company. And
Speaker 1: so they say this is available right now to fifty
Speaker 1: million members on LinkedIn and four thousand companies that it
Speaker 1: works with. I have not tested this with my work email,
Speaker 1: so I think that's a good way to do it.
Speaker 1: The only downside to that is that if you're not
Speaker 1: with your you know, with a big company, or you're
Speaker 1: on your own or your freelance or you leave that company,
Speaker 1: it could be kind of tricky. So that's one way.
Speaker 1: And then the final way is this Microsoft Intra, and
Speaker 1: I guess Entra is some sort of verified ID platform
Speaker 1: that Microsoft offers to companies, And that's probably the least
Speaker 1: useful because I don't think many people I've never even
Speaker 1: heard of Microsoft Entra, but that's kind of something that
Speaker 1: I'm guessing they sell to companies that participate in it.
Speaker 1: And then if you're in there and you know who
Speaker 1: you are, if your company participates in that verified ID platform,
Speaker 1: you can use that to verify your LinkedIn. So again,
Speaker 1: this is all about giving people confidence, according to LinkedIn,
Speaker 1: to know that you're connecting with the person that they
Speaker 1: say they are and that they're trusted. And again I've
Speaker 1: heard people say like this, you could be a problem
Speaker 1: on LinkedIn, especially if you're looking for like remote jobs.
Speaker 1: People may ask you a whole bunch of stuff and
Speaker 1: they turn out to be bogus. So just be aware
Speaker 1: of that and be careful of that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: We were talking about NFL going to YouTube, but if
Speaker 1: you have Google TV, they're adding more than eight hundred
Speaker 1: free channels. Eight hundred free channels on Google TV. This
Speaker 1: means if you have a Chrome Cast with Google TV
Speaker 1: or one of these Google TV boxes, you've got eight
Speaker 1: hundred free TV channels. So I've talked about this on
Speaker 1: the show before, Free ad supported television. This is the
Speaker 1: fastest growing area of streaming, and in fact, the acronym
Speaker 1: is fast free ad supported TV. It's basically old school TV,
Speaker 1: except now streaming, which means you just have ads that
Speaker 1: you can't skip. And so people are sick of paying
Speaker 1: for streaming services, and so they say, okay, let me
Speaker 1: see what's on two B let me see what's on Plex,
Speaker 1: let me see what's on Pluto TV. And there's a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of these different things at this point. So
Speaker 1: starting now, Google is integrating these free channels right into
Speaker 1: the live tab on your Google TV device. So there's
Speaker 1: gonna be all kinds of news channels NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox,
Speaker 1: programming from around the world in ten languages, including Spanish, Hindi,
Speaker 1: and Japanese. They've got breaking news, blockbuster movies, all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff. I checked my Chrome Cast with Google TV
Speaker 1: to see if I had this yet. I don't, but
Speaker 1: I do like their interface because the thing is. We
Speaker 1: started out with these streaming services that you pop into
Speaker 1: and see what's playing, but now we've come full circle
Speaker 1: back to the live grid. People love the live grid
Speaker 1: because you can see the channels, and you can see
Speaker 1: what's playing on the channels at the different times and
Speaker 1: pop into them like you did back in the day
Speaker 1: on a cable box. So eight hundred channels, are they
Speaker 1: all going to be good? Probably not, But if you're
Speaker 1: looking for free stuff to watch, people might know like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can go to my Google TV and find stuff,
Speaker 1: and Roku's doing this, Pluto does this, So everyone's seeming
Speaker 1: to get into this whole live grid with a bunch
Speaker 1: of free stuff. And yes you will have to sit
Speaker 1: through commercials, but it's free. So where's this available? Like
Speaker 1: I said, Google TV devices in the US, including Chromecast
Speaker 1: with Google TV and TVs with Google TV built in.
Speaker 1: So if you have a Sony with Google TCL High
Speaker 1: Sense and fillups, they all have this built in. You
Speaker 1: should be seeing this update soon. They're going to bring
Speaker 1: it to eligible Android TV devices later this year, so
Speaker 1: if you have an Android TV box, you're not going
Speaker 1: to see this immediately, but one more way to watch
Speaker 1: free stuff and there are many ways at this point.
Speaker 1: All right, let's see so many emails here. Nancy wrote
Speaker 1: in Hey, Rich, I have no ad. Discovery Plus is
Speaker 1: six ninety nine a month. I don't want anything else.
Speaker 1: What are my options going to be? I can't find
Speaker 1: anything online? Nancy, I think Discovery Plus is going to
Speaker 1: stay put, even though we have HBO Max coming along
Speaker 1: to Max. I think Discovery Plus is staying put right
Speaker 1: now at six ninety nine a month, so until they
Speaker 1: change that, all right, if you have a question, give
Speaker 1: me a call. Eighty to eight rich one on one
Speaker 1: triple eight seven four to two, four to one zero one.
Speaker 1: You're listening to rich on Tech. Also one of my
Speaker 1: favorite songs, Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro
Speaker 1: here talking technology with you. Triple eight rich one O
Speaker 1: one is the phone number eight eight eight seven four
Speaker 1: to two four one zero one in the studio. Some
Speaker 1: special guests, my wife Lindsey, Hello, everybody, happy to be here.
Speaker 1: And my son Tanner. Hi. So now it sounds like
Speaker 1: a circus in here. Now we're like the rich Morning Zoo.
Speaker 1: I need like a cow bell. No, it's it's all fun.
Speaker 1: My kid has been asking me to come into the
Speaker 1: the radio studio since we started the show, and I said, okay,
Speaker 1: you got to give me a little bit of time
Speaker 1: to get used to the show first, right, and then
Speaker 1: and then I said I would bring him in. So
Speaker 1: he's in here. And what was your first reaction to
Speaker 1: the studio here?
Speaker 8: You know, I thought the room was a little small,
Speaker 8: but then I looked around more and it was a
Speaker 8: little big.
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think of the noise? You can't
Speaker 1: hear anything in here? Right, it's very quiet.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: When I came.
Speaker 1: In, he can't hear so I felt like, oh, he
Speaker 1: felt like he popped his ears. Okay, that might have
Speaker 1: been the elevator though. So my kid is here for
Speaker 1: a reason. We're gonna be talking about the Super Mario
Speaker 1: Brothers movie a little bit later in the show. I've
Speaker 1: got Matt Swider, friend of the show. He is going
Speaker 1: to tell us the best way to see the movie.
Speaker 1: He saw it in like five different formats. I can't
Speaker 1: believe it. I saw it in one, and I'm good
Speaker 1: with that. You saw it last night. We're not going
Speaker 1: to talk about it just yet, but we'll have Tanner
Speaker 1: kind of chime in on that in just a little
Speaker 1: bit but speaking of Nintendo, by the way, phone lines
Speaker 1: open triple eight rich one one eight eight eight seven
Speaker 1: four to two, four to one zero one. Speaking of Nintendo,
Speaker 1: Nintendo announces Nintendo Live twenty twenty three. This is something
Speaker 1: they did in Japan during the pandemic, I guess last year,
Speaker 1: but now they're bringing it to the US. And it's
Speaker 1: kind of interesting timing because E three we talked about
Speaker 1: on the show, how that's not happening this year. That's
Speaker 1: the big video game show usually happens in downtown LA
Speaker 1: every June. That is not happening this year. And then
Speaker 1: as soon as that announcement was made, then Nintendo says, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, we're doing a show on our own,
Speaker 1: and this is happening up in Seattle. I say up
Speaker 1: in Seattle because I'm in LA. But if you're in Seattle,
Speaker 1: you're like, what does you mean up in Seattle. I'm
Speaker 1: in Seattle. It's right here, and so this is happening
Speaker 1: in Seattle. This will be an in person event. Anyone
Speaker 1: can go, and Nintendo made sure that they said it's
Speaker 1: for family, it's family friendly, and it's funny. The guy
Speaker 1: who runs Nintendo of America, his name, I kid you
Speaker 1: not is Doug Bowser. Doug Bowser is the guy who
Speaker 1: runs Nintendo. I know you can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a wide variety of Nintendo game inspired activities.
Speaker 1: You can do gameplay, live entertainment, cheering on high energy
Speaker 1: gaming tournaments, and taking unforgettable photos with recognizable characters like
Speaker 1: Mario and Luigi. So they have not said when this
Speaker 1: will happen in September, the exact date I can tell you, well,
Speaker 1: I can't tell you actually I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: remember as a kid, they had this thing that I did,
Speaker 1: and I can't remember what it was called. It was
Speaker 1: like a Nintendo Challenge or something, and it was like,
Speaker 1: do you remember this, Lindsey, this is the Nintendo Challenge?
Speaker 1: You remember this thing where you'd go to like a
Speaker 1: game a toy store and you'd play like the video
Speaker 1: game and try to become like the best Mario Brothers
Speaker 1: player ever. You don't remember doing that. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but I cannot remember that me and I was a
Speaker 1: big Nintendo fan. You did play Nintendo all the time,
Speaker 1: but at home in our playroom, in your playroom. Well,
Speaker 1: really bringing it back when people had playrooms. That was
Speaker 1: like when your parents didn't want you to, you know,
Speaker 1: be there, go to the playroom. For me, it was
Speaker 1: the basement growing up in New Jersey. That was always
Speaker 1: the playroom. But anyway, so I remember going to this place.
Speaker 1: It was called Child's World. That's that's the place that
Speaker 1: I went to as a kid. And you went It
Speaker 1: was a it was a toy store kind of like
Speaker 1: Toys r US and you would go there and play
Speaker 1: a tournament. It was like literally, I was, I'm so
Speaker 1: excited for this, and it was like maybe two minutes long.
Speaker 1: You'd play Super Mario Brothers. As soon as you died,
Speaker 1: that was it. And there was like thirty other kids
Speaker 1: you'd play with. If anyone can remember this, email me.
Speaker 1: It's hello at richontech dot TV. It was kind of
Speaker 1: like there was a movie too, not The Whiz, was it? Gosh,
Speaker 1: now I'm really getting now the Wizard? I don't know anyway,
Speaker 1: So I will be there hopefully in Seattle in September
Speaker 1: to tell you all about Nintendo Live twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: because I have a feeling that's going to be quite visual.
Speaker 1: All right, moving on, Uh, let's see, should I do
Speaker 1: a question let's do a question. We got an email
Speaker 1: from let's see Bo. Bo said my Netflix keeps freezing tonight.
Speaker 1: I contacted customer service via chat. EVA says there's nothing
Speaker 1: she can do unless I cancel. I asked for a supervisor.
Speaker 1: Spoke with Justine. They take good notes. Nothing they can
Speaker 1: do unless I cancel. Called Netflix, spoke with someone same thing.
Speaker 1: Asked for a supervisor, got Stanley, couldn't give me last name,
Speaker 1: said it was policy. He said there's nothing I could
Speaker 1: do unless I cancel. I've been with Netflix many years.
Speaker 1: First time I had this issue, I spent one year
Speaker 1: trying to get a credit and no resolve. Customers should
Speaker 1: know how shady they are. This is of special interest
Speaker 1: as they are a most expensive streaming service there is.
Speaker 1: Please cover this, try to get help and see they
Speaker 1: don't care.
Speaker 4: Bo.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Netflix is the problem. I think
Speaker 1: that they actually have pretty good Internet services. So my
Speaker 1: question to you is it's probably your setup if you're
Speaker 1: having trouble with streaming. I mean, there's no like, no
Speaker 1: Netflix issue. And if you ever wonder if Netflix is
Speaker 1: having a service outage, let's see if they have a
Speaker 1: Netflix status page. So there is a Netflix status page
Speaker 1: help dot Netflix dot com is Netflix down? Big green
Speaker 1: arrow right now says Netflix is up. We are not
Speaker 1: currently experiencing an interruption to our streaming service. Ninety nine
Speaker 1: percent of the time, when people have a problem with
Speaker 1: these streaming services, it is not the streaming service. It
Speaker 1: is their internet. It is their internet connection, specifically Wi Fi.
Speaker 1: That's typically what happens. All right, do I have time
Speaker 1: to take a call here, let's see, let's go to
Speaker 1: uh Claudia in Westport, Washington. Claudia, you're on with Rich.
Speaker 11: Yeah. Hello, I'm thanks for taking my call. I just
Speaker 11: got my daughter's put up a new TV. It's a
Speaker 11: VZO for me, and they got it all set up.
Speaker 11: I got my DVD players. That's all hooked up, so
Speaker 11: the TV was working fine, you know. And I have
Speaker 11: row Crew by the way, not cable, and I get
Speaker 11: a Wi Fi signal. But I decided I wanted to
Speaker 11: play a DVD, so I put in a DVD I
Speaker 11: you know, got on my menu and selected the DVD.
Speaker 11: That was fine, I could play that. Now my problem
Speaker 11: is I turn off the DVD player, I cannot get
Speaker 11: back to regular TV.
Speaker 1: And your regular TV is what the Roku interface.
Speaker 11: Uh yeah, but I have to I turn on my
Speaker 11: TV with the remote from the from the television, right, okay.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you turn on the TV and then you
Speaker 1: have a Roku player attached to it.
Speaker 11: Yes, I have. I have Roku. That's how I get
Speaker 11: my channels and everything.
Speaker 1: Okay. So it sounds like when you put the DVD
Speaker 1: in you're going to a different HDMI input correct.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Okay, but I don't know how
Speaker 11: to get back to the other ones. They've got like
Speaker 11: four choices and none of them seem to work.
Speaker 1: Okay, television, And just to let you know, Claudia, this
Speaker 1: even happens to me. Okay, So if I switch HDM
Speaker 1: my inputs on my TV, I'm not kidding. I rarely
Speaker 1: do it because I can never find the one I
Speaker 1: need to go back to. And the reason is that
Speaker 1: you need to get the Roku on first, because it
Speaker 1: may not be sending a signal to your TV, and
Speaker 1: if it's not, you're just going to get that black screen.
Speaker 1: And so you need to turn on the Roku first.
Speaker 1: Use the remote to turn on the Roku, not the TV,
Speaker 1: like you like, press something on the Roku remote, get
Speaker 1: that going and then switch HDMI inputs, and every time
Speaker 1: you switch the HDMI input, wait about ten seconds for
Speaker 1: it to kind of like, you know, talk back and forth,
Speaker 1: get the signal and hopefully one of them should settle
Speaker 1: onto the proper one. And then once you figure that out,
Speaker 1: memorize them. So if your DVD is number one, memorize
Speaker 1: that Roku is number three. But I'm telling you, you're
Speaker 1: calling and this sounds like, you know, a question that
Speaker 1: seems like it would be really simple, and you probably
Speaker 1: feel like, oh my gosh, I can't but believe me,
Speaker 1: this happens to everyone. My kid is nodding his head.
Speaker 1: I've got my eight year old here, Claudia, and he's
Speaker 1: you've seen this happen at our house when Dad switches
Speaker 1: the TV and I can't figure out the one that
Speaker 1: goes back to right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I seen it happen at our house.
Speaker 1: In fact, we have labels on our HDMI inputs. I
Speaker 1: actually went through it labeled them. And the problem is
Speaker 1: I've changed the things that are connected to those inputs
Speaker 1: and now the labels are wrong, so I can't rely
Speaker 1: on the label.
Speaker 11: So Claudia, that's what my daughter did. She she she
Speaker 11: labeled by remote and put this on this and do
Speaker 11: not touch this button and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 11: I don't even I'm okay, I got my rod too
Speaker 11: remote and my hand and I'm trying to turn it
Speaker 11: on and it's on. It's got the little red light
Speaker 11: on it and everything.
Speaker 1: But if that's not working, the other thing you could
Speaker 1: do is pull the power plug out of the back
Speaker 1: of the Roku and and get that and you know,
Speaker 1: get that back on. The other thing you could do.
Speaker 1: How old is this TV?
Speaker 11: No, you know what. I don't know because she she
Speaker 11: had it storage, but I think it's at least five years.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's a feature on the TV and it sounds
Speaker 1: like your daughter is a little bit tech savvy because
Speaker 1: she's got that sticker on the remote that says do
Speaker 1: not touch this button, so she knows what she's doing.
Speaker 1: There's a thing called ARC support on the TV E
Speaker 1: ARC and so what that does is this will allow
Speaker 1: the Roku to actually toggle the TV Hdmi to its
Speaker 1: input when you press a button on the Roku remote,
Speaker 1: so like the home button or the select button. So
Speaker 1: I would also ask your daughter to maybe see if
Speaker 1: that option in Roku is set up. It's called ARC
Speaker 1: or ARC and so that should Sorry, sorry, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you the wrong thing. It's actually CEC. This is a
Speaker 1: different control, and that's HDMI, which basically allows these modern
Speaker 1: devices to talk to each other, and if you get
Speaker 1: them to talk to each other, they will turn each
Speaker 1: other on and off and that kind of stuff when
Speaker 1: you press the button on the remote. But personally, I
Speaker 1: think you just figure out which input these things are on.
Speaker 1: If worse comes to worse, Claudia, you can follow the
Speaker 1: HDMI cable from the back of the Roku into where
Speaker 1: it inputs on your TV, and that should be labeled
Speaker 1: on the back of your TV, and that way you
Speaker 1: know that's the one to tune into. So that's what
Speaker 1: I would do. I know it's a pain sometimes with
Speaker 1: these HDMI inputs, but maybe just stick to the to
Speaker 1: the Roku, all right. Coming up on the show, we
Speaker 1: are going to talk to Matt Swider about the best
Speaker 1: way to see the new Super Mario Brothers movie. Plus,
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you about Google Maps. They've got
Speaker 1: several new features to help you explore US national parks,
Speaker 1: and Amazon is talking about scam artists. They're telling you
Speaker 1: how to avoid being a scam victim. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: about how to do that. Coming up next, we have
Speaker 1: is at Triple eight rich one on one. That's eight
Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two, four to one zero one.
Speaker 1: Rich Damiro here along with my wife Lindsay, my kid, Tanner, Bobo.
Speaker 1: We got everyone in house today. You're listening to Rich
Speaker 1: on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro
Speaker 1: here hanging out with you, talking technology. You can find
Speaker 1: me online at tech on all social media Instagram, Facebook, Twitter,
Speaker 1: if you want to call the show eighty eight rich
Speaker 1: one on one, Triple eight seven four to two, four
Speaker 1: one zero one. I've got my wife in studio here,
Speaker 1: Lindsay say hello, Hi, very fun to be here behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. I've got my kid here, Tanner. Just call
Speaker 1: us the rich Morning Zoo with Technology. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get to uh Mitch in Escondido. Mitch, welcome to the show.
Speaker 12: Good afternoon.
Speaker 1: I am doing fantastic. I got my whole family here,
Speaker 1: so what could be better?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Well that's right.
Speaker 1: What can I help you with?
Speaker 12: Well, I'm looking for a basic you know, Bluetooth speaker.
Speaker 12: I've gone online, I've checked the reviews and everyone has
Speaker 12: the best one.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 12: And I'm really confused. So I'm looking just for something
Speaker 12: that play, you know, that I can put in the
Speaker 12: house and get good sound from.
Speaker 1: Okay, how much you looking to spend?
Speaker 12: You know, I don't want to go top of the line,
Speaker 12: you know, somewhere in the middle of something that's good.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll tell you some of my favorites and
Speaker 1: then you can go from there. But I'll tell you
Speaker 1: I've got my absolute, absolute favorite speaker, and this is
Speaker 1: probably overkill. This is the best thing I purchased during
Speaker 1: the pandemic is the Sos Move. This one's a little expensive,
Speaker 1: it's four hundred dollars, but it's one of my absolute
Speaker 1: favorite Bluetooth speakers because not only does it work with
Speaker 1: Sonos if you have that, which sounds like you don't,
Speaker 1: so okay, but it's also it's Bluetooth and Wi Fi
Speaker 1: and it works with Apple Airplay and all these different things,
Speaker 1: and so that's my most versatile speaker. What I like
Speaker 1: about it is that it sits on a charging pad,
Speaker 1: so it's always charged. And that's the problem with some
Speaker 1: of these Bluetooth speakers is that you get them and
Speaker 1: then they're not charged when you want to use them.
Speaker 1: Now that's on the high end. Okay, Now if you
Speaker 1: step on half of that. For about two hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: you can get the sons Roam And you can tell
Speaker 1: I really like the Sonos products because they just work
Speaker 1: really well. Now the Rome, I can tell you it's
Speaker 1: about I think it's about one seventy nine. This is
Speaker 1: another great speaker that I've purchased. And the reason I
Speaker 1: like this is because while the Move is really heavy
Speaker 1: and it works really well and you can bring it
Speaker 1: in to your backyard, the Rome is really light, but
Speaker 1: it's also rechargeable. They also make a little charger, a
Speaker 1: wireless charger that it can sit upon, although I just
Speaker 1: keep mine plugged in at all times with USBC. But
Speaker 1: this thing is waterproof, which is nice, so you can
Speaker 1: take it out in the water and the rain, by
Speaker 1: the pool whatever. But I will tell you my wife
Speaker 1: can attest to this that we ran it through the
Speaker 1: washing machine by accident, and you found this in the
Speaker 1: washing machine, right.
Speaker 3: I did, and I was a little worried it would
Speaker 3: never work again, and it did somehow.
Speaker 1: But somehow it works because we brought it to Hawaii
Speaker 1: and it still works and there's no crackling. There's no problem,
Speaker 1: so I can tell you the Rome by Sonos is
Speaker 1: really well made. After that, if you want something that's inexpensive,
Speaker 1: I would say my favorite speakers are the Ultimate Ears.
Speaker 1: And I'm not the only person that says this. Mitch,
Speaker 1: you said you looked at reviews. Many people concur that
Speaker 1: Ultimate Years makes great speakers, and I would you know.
Speaker 1: They have them in a wide range of pricing points,
Speaker 1: so you can go anywhere from the Wonder Boom three
Speaker 1: which is one hundred dollars, to the Boom three which
Speaker 1: is one point fifty up to the Megaboom which is
Speaker 1: two hundred, to the hyper Boom which is four forty nine.
Speaker 1: Not that four forty nine or two hundred. I'd probably
Speaker 1: go with the Sono speakers I mentioned. But Ultimate Ears
Speaker 1: has a great speaker. I've recommended this to many many
Speaker 1: people over the years. They are also water resistant, most
Speaker 1: of them, I believe, and they're great. The battery lasts
Speaker 1: a long time, the sound is fantastic, and you can
Speaker 1: find them anywhere. My advice for any of these speakers
Speaker 1: is to wait for a deal. Ultimate Year stuff does
Speaker 1: go on sale once in a while. Sono stuff will
Speaker 1: go on sale once in a while as well. Thanks
Speaker 1: for calling Mitch. Hopefully that answers your question. All right, Tam,
Speaker 1: we've got two minutes. I'm gonna give you the question.
Speaker 1: Go ahead. We've got an email from Art. What does
Speaker 1: Art say?
Speaker 8: Good morning, Rich enjoy listening and seeing you on KTLA.
Speaker 8: Is there any way to stop giving spam emails from
Speaker 8: Walmart Rewards, ACE Rewards, etc. I delete them and report spam,
Speaker 8: but they just keep showing up.
Speaker 1: Thank you Art, thank you Ark, and thank you Tanner
Speaker 1: for reading that great question. And this is a problem
Speaker 1: that many people have, including myself. So I get these
Speaker 1: emails as well from like Walmart rewards, Home Depot rewards,
Speaker 1: and it's like spam, and then you have regular spam.
Speaker 1: So here is my quick primer on spam. If you
Speaker 1: get an email like the Walmart rewards, the home Depot rewards,
Speaker 1: do not open it and do not click on any
Speaker 1: links in it. Send it to the trash immediately without
Speaker 1: opening it. As soon as you open one of these emails,
Speaker 1: these unsolicited spam emails, it sends a signal to these
Speaker 1: spammers that oh, we got a good email address and
Speaker 1: they're going to send you more. The other thing I
Speaker 1: would do is turn off load remote images on your
Speaker 1: email program. That means that all these little tracking pixels
Speaker 1: that these spammers put in these emails will not work.
Speaker 1: It will not tell them that these emails were loaded.
Speaker 1: So if you can turn off load remote images on
Speaker 1: your emails, that should help cut down on some of
Speaker 1: this stuff. Otherwise, unsubscribe to legitimate emails. So if you're
Speaker 1: getting a legitimate email from a company like Macy's or
Speaker 1: Home Depot, you can safely unsubscribe. Otherwise, do not click
Speaker 1: links and the unsolicited stuff, send them right to spam.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, Matt Swider is going to talk Super
Speaker 1: Mario Brothers movie and the best format to see it in.
Speaker 1: This is rich On Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech.
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out talking technology with you at
Speaker 1: Triple eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven
Speaker 1: four to two four to one zero one in the
Speaker 1: studio with me my son eight years old. Tanner, Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. So we are going to talk per
Speaker 1: Mario Brothers movie. We went and saw it last night
Speaker 1: and you have your review. Do you want to give
Speaker 1: me a review of the movie, Tanner? Go ahead.
Speaker 8: I think the Mario movie is great. I would give
Speaker 8: it a nine out of ten.
Speaker 10: Like.
Speaker 8: The reason I would give it a night out of
Speaker 8: ten is because it could have a little been a
Speaker 8: little bit more longer.
Speaker 1: Oh you want it the longer movie and more action,
Speaker 1: more action. I thought I had a lot of action
Speaker 1: that was very long. So my feeling on this movie
Speaker 1: is that it was really good. It will definitely appeal
Speaker 1: to adults and kids alike. It had all the music
Speaker 1: that I loved from my childhood. But you can't go
Speaker 1: in with super high expectations. Let's bring on Matt Swider,
Speaker 1: friend of the show. Matt Is of the shortcut dot com. Matt,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining me today.
Speaker 12: Hi. How you doing.
Speaker 3: Hi?
Speaker 12: I also give it a nine out of ten.
Speaker 1: You give it an you agree with my child? Now
Speaker 1: Matt has seen this movie? Is it five times?
Speaker 12: Five times?
Speaker 4: So far?
Speaker 12: I may go for six?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 12: Now I saw it in all the formats that you
Speaker 12: could see it in. I saw in three D, I
Speaker 12: saw in IMAX. That was the first time I saw it.
Speaker 12: Four DX, which is like it has moving chairs and
Speaker 12: that was kind of like a little bit like a
Speaker 12: roller coaster. And then my favorite was Dolby Cinema and
Speaker 12: that was a really clear picture. But I also liked
Speaker 12: the four D X version, which I know is not
Speaker 12: everybody's cup of tea, but being on a ninety two
Speaker 12: minute roller coaster can be kind of fun, if that's
Speaker 12: up your alley.
Speaker 1: Now, we ended up seeing it in Dolby Cinema because
Speaker 1: of you, because I was literally researching my tickets and
Speaker 1: I was going to buy the IMAX tickets, and then
Speaker 1: I saw your post at the shortcut dot com saying
Speaker 1: I saw the Super Mario Brothers movie in every format
Speaker 1: possible and this is the best one. I said, ooh,
Speaker 1: let me see what he says, and so I read
Speaker 1: the whole thing and you came to the conclusion of
Speaker 1: the Dolby Cinema and I canceled the tickets for the
Speaker 1: IMAX and I bought the cinema. What do you think
Speaker 1: is the kind of difference between those two formats?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Do we lose Matt?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: I think we lost him. I guess Matt. I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened. Okay, So while we get Matt back
Speaker 1: on the line, let's see here, can I bring Matt?
Speaker 1: Are you there?
Speaker 6: Still?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Sorry?
Speaker 12: For some reason, there you go.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you heard my question, but
Speaker 1: you know, I basically went and saw in the Dolby
Speaker 1: Cinema format. What do you think is the difference between
Speaker 1: these formats these days?
Speaker 12: I think it's a little bit bigger of a screen,
Speaker 12: and the contrast ratio is definitely the projector is definitely
Speaker 12: better than your standard two D picture that's out there.
Speaker 12: That kind of is slowly being replaced a lot of
Speaker 12: the older cinemas out there, a lot of the older
Speaker 12: theaters have older objectors. So whether you're going for you know,
Speaker 12: Dolby Cinema or they have like the Imax laser, it's
Speaker 12: new advanced technology that is kind of modernizing, just like
Speaker 12: your TV. You know, the HDR, the contrast ratio so
Speaker 12: you know, black or blacks and brighter brights within a reason.
Speaker 12: So I could really tell a difference on My favorite
Speaker 12: like tell was the detail of Mario's hat. It has
Speaker 12: a lot of you know, like texture there, like you
Speaker 12: would see in a nice fabric. And I could see
Speaker 12: that on the Imax, and I can see that in
Speaker 12: the Dolby. But then I began to lose it on
Speaker 12: the three D pictures which I saw on a smaller
Speaker 12: screen in that case, and also two D, like a
Speaker 12: lot of that detail really faded, but almost like Mario's
Speaker 12: overalls were almost looked fuzzy because they look so realistic
Speaker 12: on Imax and on the Dolbie Cinema.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually turned to my wife at one point
Speaker 1: during the movie and said, can you believe the graphics
Speaker 1: of this movie. It's they're so clear and so good
Speaker 1: that it's it's almost like a next generation of kind
Speaker 1: of like you said, if you can see it in
Speaker 1: these formats that reveal that you really get to enjoy
Speaker 1: with these with these people that made this movie had
Speaker 1: in mind. Absolutely Okay, So with the Dolby Cinema, the
Speaker 1: Dolby Cinema and the Imax, Uh are those two the same?
Speaker 1: Like what are they just like different brands or what?
Speaker 12: So there are different brands. It depends on the Imax.
Speaker 12: It is really like a larger screen and it's taller
Speaker 12: than your usual format. So the one I saw in
Speaker 12: New York City is the largest Imax in the in
Speaker 12: the country, in the in.
Speaker 1: The US, oh wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the.
Speaker 12: Second largest is in San Francisco. So I lucked out,
Speaker 12: you know, being in New York City to go to that,
Speaker 12: but people there's also an IMAX experience, which they kind
Speaker 12: of retrofitted existing theaters to be a little bit larger
Speaker 12: and have that larger, taller format, but it's not quite
Speaker 12: the real imax that is, you know, what everybody knows
Speaker 12: and loves, where it's like a giant screen. I did
Speaker 12: think that it took away from a little bit of
Speaker 12: the action because it was almost seeing it with like
Speaker 12: it felt like a thousand other people. The configure is
Speaker 12: not quite that large many seats, but it felt almost
Speaker 12: too big for its own goods. So when I went
Speaker 12: to the Dolby, I had a lot of space in
Speaker 12: between me and other people the more comfortable seats, and
Speaker 12: it felt like I was just tuning in on a
Speaker 12: giant screen that was in my living room versus, you know,
Speaker 12: something where I'm at like a stadium.
Speaker 4: But they both have unique, cool experiences.
Speaker 1: And that's the other part of this is that even
Speaker 1: though I love the at home movie experience, there's still
Speaker 1: you can't compare to the movie theater experience, and it's
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, people were back in the theater. I
Speaker 1: mean it really was. You know. My wife and I
Speaker 1: were talking about this last night too, like how we thought,
Speaker 1: you know, movie theaters, you would never go back after
Speaker 1: COVID and now here we are and it was packed.
Speaker 1: So okay, let's talk about some of the movie itself,
Speaker 1: because I've got my kid here and Tanner. What was
Speaker 1: your favorite like character in the movie.
Speaker 8: Did you have a you know, I kind of did
Speaker 8: actually have a favorite?
Speaker 1: What was it? You've got Mario, because.
Speaker 8: Mario or Peach or Luigi?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 8: My personal favorite was Luigi.
Speaker 1: Oh you like Luigi? Huh?
Speaker 8: I like how he always carried around like plumbing bag.
Speaker 1: What about the what about the Okay, there's two characters
Speaker 1: I really liked. There was the Toad character, which I
Speaker 1: thought was really funny. But then there's that like weird
Speaker 1: star that was like really like dark, right, what was
Speaker 1: the deal with that thing? And then Bowser. I thought
Speaker 1: Bowser was a little I don't know, like you like
Speaker 1: it's weird. And Matt, I'm sure you can understand this too.
Speaker 1: It's like whenever you're bringing Ip to life, there's always
Speaker 1: this like major danger.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like kind of like meeting your favorite celebrity. You
Speaker 1: don't want to be disappointed right by meeting them. In person.
Speaker 1: That's the way I feel they're walking this very fine
Speaker 1: line with bringing like your favorite Mario and Nintendo characters
Speaker 1: to life. You don't want to not like them because
Speaker 1: you've liked them for so many on the video game.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think Jack Black had a tough job but
Speaker 12: pulled it off in that Bowser would just like in
Speaker 12: most video games, grunt and not really have a lot
Speaker 12: of dialogue. So this is really the first time where
Speaker 12: we have a lot of dialogue being brought to life.
Speaker 12: So I think you did a good job. In the beginning,
Speaker 12: a lot of the little kids were very scared, but
Speaker 12: then he got a little silly, so I think that
Speaker 12: kind of eased some of that you know, fear in
Speaker 12: some of like the.
Speaker 4: Really little kids.
Speaker 12: I would say, if you're going to bring little kids
Speaker 12: to scream at Bowser for ninety two minutes, I think
Speaker 12: the forty X is the version to go to because
Speaker 12: there was other little kids doing the same thing. And
Speaker 12: that's because like it's almost like a ride being in
Speaker 12: that seat that moves, So if you want to kind
Speaker 12: of cover for the fact that your kids are going
Speaker 12: to scream, that's the version of go to, because they'll
Speaker 12: be with other kids doing that same thing.
Speaker 1: I've actually never seen a movie in forty X. Can
Speaker 1: you explain what that is?
Speaker 12: Yeah, so it has like twenty one different sensory kind
Speaker 12: of motion. So there's there's water that gets spit out
Speaker 12: at you, both from the front of the railing or
Speaker 12: the person seen in front of you, if not in
Speaker 12: the front section like I was. And then there's myst
Speaker 12: that comes down. There's air that comes from the back
Speaker 12: of the seat. So if you're like flying through the
Speaker 12: air on a Mario Kart like that type of thing,
Speaker 12: will will have some some like air effects. And then
Speaker 12: there's the moving seats, so they almost move like you
Speaker 12: would imagine in like one of those Disney three D theater,
Speaker 12: So everything's in in three d's, but the forty comes
Speaker 12: with those like sensory effects. There's also smell and there's heat,
Speaker 12: but I didn't really experience that in this particular theater.
Speaker 12: I did experience that when I saw one of the
Speaker 12: Transformers movies in Los Angeles back when they first opened up.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was corrected by Tanner. Tanner, We did see
Speaker 1: a forty movie right where I kind.
Speaker 8: Of remember it at Legoland.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was Lego Land, New York.
Speaker 8: Yeah, like when that there was a criminals trying to
Speaker 8: steal just a hot and the cops were like, we
Speaker 8: got it was a really hot day. So I was
Speaker 8: kind of happy to get wet in that movie. But
Speaker 8: it was kind of weird how the air went on
Speaker 8: like my neck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like the the So you're you're in
Speaker 1: New York, Matt, there's that new Lego Land up in
Speaker 1: gosh in New York. And we went to the opening
Speaker 1: and they had a four D movie adventure there, so
Speaker 1: that I did. I did see and they had like
Speaker 1: I think foam came down from the ceiling like it
Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't like one of the standard ones that
Speaker 1: you're talking about from like Regal or whatever. This other
Speaker 1: member D Box I think was that one of the companies.
Speaker 12: Yeah, another one.
Speaker 1: So anyway, all right, So bottom line on Super Mario Brothers.
Speaker 1: Do you recommend people see it if they like, you know,
Speaker 1: nostalgic factor, you know, what's the who should see this?
Speaker 12: I think tons of people. This is like why it's
Speaker 12: doing so well in the box office right now. And
Speaker 12: actually eating Frozen too, Frozen two Numbers, which is Disney's
Speaker 12: best animated film. It's because there's this cross section of
Speaker 12: people who played the game over you know, the last
Speaker 12: I don't know, thirty plus years, like thirty five years
Speaker 12: or so, because you know, and every generation kind of
Speaker 12: knows about Mario. In one survey, Mario was had a
Speaker 12: better recognizable score than Mickey Mouse. So like it's it's
Speaker 12: definitely relevant to all ages, and a lot of kids
Speaker 12: who don't know Mario, this will be like their first
Speaker 12: experience with Mario and they'll immediately get it because they're
Speaker 12: the ones who like it the most because it just
Speaker 12: appeals to them. It may not have the story that
Speaker 12: the critics like, but the actual, you know, ticket paying
Speaker 12: audience seems to really like it. And I kind of
Speaker 12: agree with that ticket paying audience more than the professional
Speaker 12: critics out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. And it got me to eat
Speaker 1: my popcorn and drink my soda and have a very
Speaker 1: very enjoyable Friday night. Matt, we're going to leave it
Speaker 1: at that. Check out Matt's newsletter at the Shortcut dot
Speaker 1: Com does all kinds of fun stuff. Matt Swider, thanks
Speaker 1: so much for joining me today.
Speaker 12: Thanks for Richner Speculator here.
Speaker 1: All right, take care all right, coming up, we're gonna
Speaker 1: close out the show. I'm gonna tell you about the
Speaker 1: Amazon scam warning, some new features for the National parks
Speaker 1: inside Google Maps, and we're going to close out the
Speaker 1: show with some of your feedback. Rich on Tech coming
Speaker 1: back after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich
Speaker 1: Demiro talking technology with you. Find me online at rich
Speaker 1: on Tech. My son Tanner in the studio with me,
Speaker 1: my wife Lindsey. My other kid's on a hike, so
Speaker 1: he's not here, so not by himself. But if you
Speaker 1: want to see us on Instagram at rich on Tech,
Speaker 1: I typically well Instagram our family and what we're doing
Speaker 1: most of the time. All right, before we close out
Speaker 1: the show here, I got a lot of things to
Speaker 1: get through. So Amazon sent an email about the feeding
Speaker 1: scam artists. They said in twenty twenty two, they made
Speaker 1: significant strides to protecting customers any big tech company. You're
Speaker 1: gonna get emails that purport to be from them, do
Speaker 1: not fall for them. A lot of them are fake.
Speaker 1: Amazon says they initiated takedown some more than twenty thousand
Speaker 1: phishing websites and ten thousand phone numbers that were used
Speaker 1: as part of impersonation scams and they referred hundreds of
Speaker 1: bad actors to law enforcement. So how to protect yourself
Speaker 1: from Amazon scammers. Be careful installing apps or software. Amazon
Speaker 1: will not ask you to install an app or download
Speaker 1: software in order to get a refund or help. So
Speaker 1: if they're like, yeah, we can talk to you about
Speaker 1: this problem, just download this program and we'll connect you,
Speaker 1: don't do it. They connect you through the web. Never
Speaker 1: pay over the phone. Amazon will not call to ask
Speaker 1: you to provide payment information, including gift cards. Always verify
Speaker 1: orders directly with Amazon. Amazon is never going to send
Speaker 1: you a confirmation email that has the products you ordered
Speaker 1: in it. So if you get this emails, say I
Speaker 1: didn't order this computer, let me call this number and
Speaker 1: get a refund, and don't do it. That does not happen.
Speaker 1: If you have any questions, you can go to your
Speaker 1: orders area on Amazon dot com or on the Amazon
Speaker 1: Shopping app. Be wary of false urgency. Amazon does not
Speaker 1: pressure you to act. Now. Well, they do have lightning deals,
Speaker 1: so they do a little bit, but scammers may try
Speaker 1: to create a sense of urgency to persuade you to
Speaker 1: do what you're asking. And if you receive any communication,
Speaker 1: a call or text or email that you think may
Speaker 1: not be from Amazon, you can report it to Amazon
Speaker 1: at Amazon dot com slash report a scam. I did
Speaker 1: not know about that website Amazon dot com slash report
Speaker 1: a scam. Let's see what that brings you to. Brings
Speaker 1: to this website where you can report something suspicious so
Speaker 1: Amazon don't fall for it. Lots of stuff that's happening
Speaker 1: with that Google Maps. If you're going to be exploring
Speaker 1: national parks this summer, they have four new updates coming
Speaker 1: to Google Maps on iOS and Android to help you
Speaker 1: with that. So number one, this is really cool. You
Speaker 1: can identify the most popular places in a park, like
Speaker 1: the attractions, campgrounds, visitor center, and trailheads. So if you
Speaker 1: search for a park like Yellowstone, you'll see something called
Speaker 1: directory and it will show you all the things that
Speaker 1: are like the most popular things inside that park. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like what they do with a shopping mall,
Speaker 1: tell you all the stores, They tell you all the
Speaker 1: things that are on there. See the popular trails on maps,
Speaker 1: so now when you search for a trail, they're going
Speaker 1: to highlight the entire route on the map instead of
Speaker 1: just a pin, so you can see where it starts
Speaker 1: and finishes. And this is one of the things when
Speaker 1: you take a hike, it's like the most intimidating factor.
Speaker 1: You don't really know what the hike is going to entail,
Speaker 1: and so the more you know about it before you
Speaker 1: get on it, the better you can prepare. They also
Speaker 1: have pictures and reviews of hikes as well more detailed directions.
Speaker 1: They're going to have park entrances highlighted on the map,
Speaker 1: so you know exactly where to go right to the trailhead.
Speaker 1: That's another thing. You know, sometimes they just bring you
Speaker 1: to like the park itself, but if you know exact
Speaker 1: you know if there's three or four places to park,
Speaker 1: you can pick the best one based on what you
Speaker 1: want to do. And then the other thing is offline maps.
Speaker 1: Be sure to download those before you go. I talked
Speaker 1: about this for any trip you do, make sure you
Speaker 1: download Google Maps. There's a way to do it in
Speaker 1: the settings, and you can download offline maps. They're going
Speaker 1: to actually make this easier. When you look up a park,
Speaker 1: you're going to see a download button on the listing
Speaker 1: so that it reminds you to download that maps that
Speaker 1: you can use it without internet or cellular because remember
Speaker 1: GPS will still work on your phone if you have
Speaker 1: the map downloaded, even if you don't have internet or
Speaker 1: cellular data. And if you've been to a national park,
Speaker 1: you know that most of them do not have internet
Speaker 1: access nearby or cellular data. The other thing is I
Speaker 1: would recommend as the MPs National Park Service app. They've
Speaker 1: got a great app for at least I know they've
Speaker 1: got it for iOS. I'm not sure it's Android, but
Speaker 1: they do have it, and oh, they do have it
Speaker 1: for both, and that has a really good source of
Speaker 1: information as well. All right, let's get to the feedback
Speaker 1: section of the show. Tanner, do you want to read
Speaker 1: one of the feedbacks for me? Do you have a
Speaker 1: feedback there? We've got it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I actually do have a feedback. Let's read it,
Speaker 8: okay from Peter. When I can't listen live, I catch
Speaker 8: up with your podcast. Thank you for providing interesting and
Speaker 8: valuable topics, Peter san Pedro.
Speaker 1: Oh, well, thank you, Peter. Yeah, some people don't realize
Speaker 1: that this goes out as a podcast as well, so
Speaker 1: if you miss it on the live show, you can
Speaker 1: definitely get the podcast later. Thank you, Peter. I appreciate
Speaker 1: that one. I will read the next piece of feedback.
Speaker 1: This is from I don't have a name here, but
Speaker 1: it just says I don't know, We'll just it says
Speaker 1: Rich de Hero instead of rich DeMuro Rich. Good job
Speaker 1: on the rescue. I remember from my scouting days reach, throw,
Speaker 1: row and go. Your little flotation device represent throw and
Speaker 1: it saved you from being dragged down by the victim.
Speaker 1: Good job, way to go. Cheers sent for my iPhone.
Speaker 1: Clearly he is referring to the rescue story I talked
Speaker 1: about on last week's show, and Tanner you were there.
Speaker 1: Was it scary on the beach to watch dad jump
Speaker 1: out and help rescue someone?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 8: I almost grabbed my mom's phone and actually doubt nine
Speaker 8: one myself and I almost had a heart attack.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a little scary, that's for sure.
Speaker 8: I almost ran in myself, but then these people told
Speaker 8: me to not run in because they probably thought there
Speaker 8: was a shark in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't know what was happening. I told the
Speaker 1: story on last week's show about my vacation in Hawaii
Speaker 1: where I had to take a little time out from
Speaker 1: the beach to run into the water and rescue someone.
Speaker 1: But my thesis of that whole thing was a don't
Speaker 1: just be a bystander. Help out in some way to
Speaker 1: the best of your ability. Doesn't mean you have to
Speaker 1: jump in like I did. But if you can help
Speaker 1: in some way, that's good because everyone thinks someone's gonna
Speaker 1: help and sometimes they don't. And look for the floaty
Speaker 1: when you get into a pool or a ocean area,
Speaker 1: there's always some sort of life saving device.
Speaker 8: Yeah, always remember where like the guard stuff is like
Speaker 8: those life booies, or they're always red yellow or white
Speaker 8: or red and white like those booies on a ship.
Speaker 1: Tanner, thanks so much for joining me on the show today.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Jeff fun Yes, okay, good, Lindsey, thanks so
Speaker 1: much for joining me. Thanks for having me all right.
Speaker 1: My name is rich Demurro. Thanks so much for listening
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Speaker 1: going to talk Earth Day and how to recycle gadgets
Speaker 1: and what big companies like Apple are doing. You can
Speaker 1: find me on social media at rich on Tech. My
Speaker 1: name is rich Dedmurro. Thanks so much for listening. There
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Speaker 1: your time. I do appreciate you spending it right here
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