WEBVTT - Draft Show: Senior Bowl Standouts 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:07.280 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:10.520 on the ore war Room for incenter news and draft 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:14.640 analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:19.200 the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Bikio Elliott and 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:25.599 now your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.160 the Draft Show is home. We're back at the SWBC 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:33.159 Mortgage Studios. Brian brought us Dane Brugler from CBS Sports 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:38.080 and contributor to Dallas Cowboys dot Com. David Hellman, writer 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.879 from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Gentlemen, I'm gonna dive right 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:46.120 into this because I want to talk a little bit 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:47.879 about the Senior Bowl. But I'll tell everybody what we're 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:51.360 gonna do here a little bit first. You can always 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.400 get a hold of us at eight eight eight eight 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.800 five five two two nine seven. We're gonna take some 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.200 calls today, probably gonna do that after we do Twitter 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.960 on the twenty. That's our next staple that we're gonna 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:06.120 have today. Needs you to get all your questions draft 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:10.360 related questions. Let Dane, David myself have an opportunity to 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.520 try and get those questions taken care for you. That's 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:17.560 at the Draft show. You can get your questions that way. 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.080 Kent Garrison will handle the calls. He's executive producer this 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:25.680 fine program, So make sure you're nice to Kent. But 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.520 we're gonna do Twitter on the twenty and then we're 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.880 also going to do a game at the end called 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:35.840 would you Rather? And I like this game because I 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:40.480 went back and looked at last year's draft, and I'm 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:47.440 comparing players from last year's draft, similar rounds, similar positions. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.080 Would you rather? You haven't shared these yet? No, I 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.160 have not. I'm looking at them. I have the dubious 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.960 distinction of reading them. I'm not looking forward to this 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:58.880 because I think this is gonna be hard. So yeah, 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.320 it'll be interesting. Yeah, I always I always try and 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.360 make it interesting because I want fans out there always 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:08.200 want to know is this guy better than is this? 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.160 Would you take? I don't know, Dane, how many times 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.359 you probably get a Twitter people ask you, they'll give 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.600 you three names and they ask you to which one 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.240 would you rather have? Right? And so I'm doing this 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.200 and it's not just first round guys, right, I've gone 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.560 through and gone through some you know, third and fourth 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.120 round guys as well. This isn't something that just you know, 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.239 fans will ask. This is something in war rooms better ask. 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:30.959 You know, they want to know. General manners want to 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:33.000 know from their scouts, who does this guy remind you of? 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.120 Compared to that. That's exactly right, Mike. My experience working 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.480 with Jerry Jones is Jerry Jones is better when you 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.760 describe a player or you say he is like this 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:47.440 guy and somebody that Jerry knows. I don't want to 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.359 compare players. So yeah, the head coach doesn't want to 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.720 compare players, but the owner general manage will compare players 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.720 all day. So that's what we got today. I'm gonna 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.040 put a bowl in the Senior Bowl. Twitter on the 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.639 twenty and then Draft Show, would you rather? I said, 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.560 I want to get in that Senior Bowl And we 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.760 just got back from Mobile, had the game on, he 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:11.680 had a chance to look at it. Dane, two or three, 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:16.680 maybe four or five guys you thought were winners from 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.400 the Senior Bowl and the week itself, not you know, 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.480 I mean just not the game, but like the week itself, 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:26.440 guys that helped themselves with their draft stock or give. 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.080 Maybe the people didn't know much about him, but elevated 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.240 themselves a little bit. I think any conversation has to 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:37.320 start with Hassan Reddick, my guy from Temple. You know, 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.920 a guy ranked highly going in, and he lived up 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.280 to that high status. I think even surpassed it. I 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.440 had him as number thirty eight overall on my board. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:46.760 He's gonna be men right about him, but he's gonna 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:48.240 be mentioned in the first round. Now, Yeah, I think 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:52.840 he helped himself that much with his ability on tape. 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.120 He's an edge rusher, he's going out of the pocket 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.720 and mobile. He was asked to drop in space. About that. Yeah, 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.160 he looked natural doing it. That athleticism. He did not 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.920 look out of play. So I think Hassan Reddick only 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:05.960 only helped himself. He's gonna be in the first Roundbix. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.040 He catch your eye there as well. Oh yeah, I'm obvious. 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.200 And you know, the day we got there, one of 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.400 our scouts told me he didn't even say his name. 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.960 He's like, watch the Temple kid. Yeah, and uh people, 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.279 and it kind of it's funny. It's funny how that 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.680 happens is and and rightfully so, I mean, he had 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.760 a great week, but you know, the wheels start turning, 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:25.520 and you know you didn't know his name when you 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.800 got there on Monday, and now everybody's all over right 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.800 on on the Hassan Reddick train. I'm with you on 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:33.359 that one. Go ahead. Next guy. Uh, a guy that 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.920 you guys probably saw a little bit in college, Duke Riley. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.560 How about that former former Tiger buy you Tiger? Uh? 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.760 This guy? We were watching him in from the press box, sure, 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.119 and I'm looking. I'm watching him like, you know, who's 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.680 this number eleven? And I'm cam fired out of my roster. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.520 But he had his jersey rolled up is actually number 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.800 zero zero? He was making plays all over and run, Yeah, 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.000 he can run. And so he's a guy that you 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.640 look at his maybe a sub package player earlier in 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:02.920 his career, but he's going to compete for starting snaps 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.960 once he gets to an NFL team. What's really funny 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.880 to me is I think Duke Riley is a very 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:11.159 similar player to Debo Jones. And I mean they played. 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.240 But the funny and I'm gonna mea culpa because you 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.360 can go back and listen to draft shows from last year. 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:19.400 I was like, like, I like Dion Jones a lot. 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.880 He's a great athlete. I don't maybe defensive rookie of 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.200 the Year, but I didn't think that back in January 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:25.800 of twenty six. I was like, you know, he'll he'll 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:27.599 make an NFL team, He'll be a good player. He'll 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.919 be he'll be like a Keith Smith, try hard, maybe 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:32.880 find a role for himself kind of guy. I certainly 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:37.000 didn't think he re interceptions, two touchdown returns, he hundred tackles. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.159 He had an amazing year. And so that comparison to 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.880 Debo Jones for Duke Riley is a lot more favorable 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.320 right now than it might have been a year and 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:45.680 a lot of credit to both of them. They took 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.720 advantage of opportunities. You know, Jones didn't start until a 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.120 senior year, and with Riley kind of similar. I mean, 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.039 there's so many athletes on that LSU defense had to 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.719 wait his turn. When he finally got the opportunity, he 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.840 blew up and I think he only helped himself with 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:00.760 the Senior Bowl, just like Jones did a year ago. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.960 So another guy I want to mention you talked about 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:05.720 the tight ends, how deep of a group it is. 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.719 This year. Oj Howard was a top guy and he easily. 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:10.920 You know a guy we could talk about, but I 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:12.720 think we've talked about him enough. Another tight end I 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.040 want to talk about as John new Smith from Florida International. 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.599 Not the biggest guy, a little undersized, but he's an athlete. 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:20.680 He can move, he can create spacing in his routes. 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.000 I think John new Smith is a guy who helped himself, 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.359 where maybe a player like Clemson's Jordan Leggett he decided 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.600 not to go, Smith might have passed him in some 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.920 people's minds on the tight end ranking. So I thought 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.080 Smith definitely made some money in mobile. Dave, you get 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.720 a couple of guys in mind, just yeah, I'm gonna 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.240 take this opportunity to pat myself on the back because 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.440 last week, before Dane left the Senior Bowl, we talked 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.760 a lot about Kareem Hunt. Yeah when and I mean 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:49.240 he had a great week of practice, but then he 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.480 went and balled out in the game too. Very well. Yes, 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.120 you know, I had this like pipe dream that he 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.400 could slip and be a feasible pick for the Cowboys 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.320 in the fourth or fifth round. But I mean, if 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.400 he keeps that moment, I'm going maybe not. I don't know, 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.480 he looked really good. I still think third fourth round 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.359 is where he's gonna be viewed. But yeah, the third 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.440 third is rich for me for a team that has 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.360 Ezekiel Elliott, right, and I mean more power to him. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.640 Get your money, dude, And speaking about this team specifically 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.000 picking in a later portion of the round, good point. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:15.520 Probably have to get him in the third round if 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.400 you want him. But we had my favorite, uh Toledo 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.360 running back Cream Hunt. My favorite stat for him eight 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.520 hundred and fifty six offensive touches in his career, not 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:28.480 having one fumble one that game that freshman any and 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.760 he recovered it. So this guy is proved to be 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.040 a three down player over his career. But then also 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.160 at the Senior Bowl, he can catch the ball. He's 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.680 a blocker, he's has the ball security that you want. 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:41.760 Then he's also a darn good runner. Yeah, the part, 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:43.680 the part you talked about the block I love the 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.280 one on one against the linebackers. He was stone in 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.200 those linebackers. That's that's tough drill for Yeah, it is 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.800 they're out there in space or by themselves, no help. 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:53.880 And you get a linebacker that gets a run on you. 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.640 Do you have anybody else there, Dave. I actually, and 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:58.800 I'm going back to what we talked about, and I 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:02.000 know you wrote about him. What did you I mean 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.880 when you had a better chance to look Jordan Willis? Yeah, 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.080 I seem like I mean, and I didn't watch the 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:10.720 whole Senior Bowl. Yeah, I wrote the thing. Jordan Willis 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.480 I thought played well in the game. Dane and I 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:16.400 were having this discussion about him or where he really fits. 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:19.040 He plays as a left defensive end for Kansas State. 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.600 Do you think he could be right in worthy? Dane 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.920 doesn't think and correct me if I'm wrong. This is 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.280 you know the bend? Do you see the bend from 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.120 this player? Or do you see a guy that consistently 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.760 goes past the quarterback and then has to come back. 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.480 I think a lot of people are aware watching the 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.200 game of Jordan Willis. I thought he played with a 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.680 little bit more bend on tape. That that's me. But 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.559 you know, I understand your concerns because what you were 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.839 talking about pre show was, Yeah, there are times when 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.560 you see him have to rush, he rushes up the field. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:57.760 Where's the point where he gets to the quarterback? Right? 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.360 Where does he find his path at that way? So 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.000 I don't know. I mean we always talk about left 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.640 ends right ends. What is he? I kind of think 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.800 that he could do both, But to me, he's more 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.520 of a left end, and he's two hundred and fifty 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.240 five pounds right and he has powerful hands, and I 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.320 love his get off. I mean, he bursts off the 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:20.040 ball and he plays the motor that you want. He's 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.480 a great individual as well. I mean Bill Snyder raves 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.839 about him as a person. But I do see some 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.840 stiffness in his pass rush. You know, there are some 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.760 times we just cannot bend around that corner and win 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:36.800 the arc. This passions class is so loaded, right, and 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:40.239 so this guy, for me, I like him, But when 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.640 you put him in context of the other rushers in 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.920 this class pass rushers, you know, he's down outside my 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.840 top fifteen right at the position just because it's so loaded. 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.559 So I liked the player, I just think there will 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.959 be probably more people that like him more than I 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:57.360 play the game with me than Dane. If you had Charlton, 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:04.760 Willis and Hall play that game with me, Charlton, to me, 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.400 is the top guy of that group, a left end 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.280 who's going to continue to get better as a pass 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.760 rusher end run defender Hall Hall is interesting. Um, I 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:16.440 think there's a little more ability, a little bit more 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.040 untapped potential there. So I give him the edge and 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.920 then Willis would be third from Okay that group? Well 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.760 you no, no, I don't. I had it. I had it, 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.800 Charlton Willison Hall Is how I had it. You have 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.280 Willis more like in the third I have I have 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.600 I you know, we were talking about two three right 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.560 like I had him. I had Charlton Wilson Hall All 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:39.080 in the second round. Okay, So we'll see, we'll see 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.240 how that goes. My guys. I liked I agree with 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.800 you guys about Hunt. I thought Zay Jones helped himself 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.760 a little bit, you know, with what he was able 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.920 to do catching all the ball, the adjustments, things like that. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.240 I really don't know what he runs. His speed is 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.800 four or five? Three is what scouts were working on 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.600 all year. I don't know, you know, I mean, you 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.880 don't see when you watch this tape, you don't see 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.360 him always separate. And when there were times at the 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:05.680 Senior Bowl when they contested with him, he had some problems, 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.959 but he did make some contested catches in the games. 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.800 I think another guy helped himself was Chad Williams from Gramblin. 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:12.679 Glad you mentioned him, I don't. I really didn't know 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.400 much about Chad Williams from Gramblin wide receiver. I didn't 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.079 know much, but I thought practice he only had one 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.840 catch for eleven yards. But I thought the week, I 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:23.400 thought he was going to have a big I thought 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.200 he was going to have a big game. The way 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.200 that he was practicing, the way they were throwing the 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.839 football to him, he found ways to get open it did. 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.319 He showed he belonged. I'd only seen one game tape 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.840 of him going into the week, but it did not 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:36.840 take long for him to show that he belonged with 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:40.240 these other FBS talents. A guy who didn't look out 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.680 of place physically athletically, the way he was tracking the ball, 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.880 making contested grabs. Absolutely, I thought he helped himself. Just 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.439 want to say for nobody blames y'all. I mean it's 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.760 Grambling like he can't get to every prospect in January. Yeah, 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.160 like you got time. But it's nice to see. It's 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.280 nice to see Grambling get backed the inn. You know, 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:02.240 Grammlin had a successful seasons. Success will campaign so nice sack. Yeah, 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.559 nice to see Gramlin get back. And I'm gonna say 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:06.640 this guy's name wrong, so Dave correct me on this. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:13.959 It's our Florida linebacker, Alex Anzeloni, got it right, Alex Anzeloni, linebacker, Florida, 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:18.360 six four, two hundred and forty pounds, right around playing 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.000 as an inside linebacker kind of thing. He needs to 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.280 play on the outside. But I saw a guy that 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:28.640 usually tall linebackers inside don't usually make it. This kid 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.840 gets the football, though. I don't know how much you. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.120 I mean, I'm sure you've studied his game and stuff 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.000 like that. Is the tape gonna be different. He showed 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:40.360 up watching practice to me, but then showed up even 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.720 more in the game. That's what kind of where I was. 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.240 You know, maybe he's not a guy that's gonna be 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:49.000 a you know, a second day guy or even a 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.000 you know, third day guy. He's got a good tape, 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.480 and I think he was one of the top three 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:59.000 linebackers in Mobile. Biggest thing with him is durability this 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.679 guy has, so he's a banged up guy, laundry list 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.400 of injuries, a guy who doesn't have that indestructible body 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.439 type for a big guy. He's not like that right exactly. 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:12.360 Hisstory shoulder issues, arm issues, So that's going to be 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:13.959 the biggest hurdle for him. But when you just talk 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.680 about the on field talent, he's a darn good player. Okay, 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:20.240 losers get a couple of losers and losers. I don't 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:24.080 mean this in disrespect, No, I mean things that disappointed 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.120 you about the gay. It could be play, it could 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.679 be injury. I put a couple of guys in there 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.520 because of injury. Yeah, I thought about that. I feel 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.920 bad docking guys for getting hurt, though, I mean I 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.640 felt Okay, loser is the wrong word for that, but 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.680 I wanted to see forced Lamp play guard. I did. 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.199 I really did. I mean, I mean I was ready 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.640 for him to come in there. He's a tackle from 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.440 Western Kentucky, and you don't see him get to play 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.080 that that. I was hopeful. I was really I was 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.239 kind of thinking that maybe this would be an opportunity 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.880 to a better evaluate him playing his guard. So I'm 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.760 calling him a loser. I'm calling me a loser because 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.880 I didn't get to see him play. Everybody's a loser 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:03.880 for not getting to evaluate him, is what you're saying 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.839 exactly for me, there were a couple of guys that 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.520 weren't not losers for me. I don't think they lost 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.840 money by any means. I just wanted to see more 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.439 all Texas, A and M. He flashed, he was inconsistent 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:20.680 there for whatever. That's um Antonio Garcia from Troy, a 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.120 tackle who kind of up and down. A lot of 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.040 people like him. But yeah, he struggled. I think to 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.600 me that matches the tape. I really wanted him to 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.360 wow me this week, and I didn't do it. He 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:33.040 didn't do it. Yeah. Taywan Taylor, the Western Kentucky receiver, 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.640 guy we both liked on tape, right, he was non 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:39.120 existent not I mean, we talked about Cooper Cup, we 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.160 talked about Zay Jones, but one Taylor was a receiver 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.400 we didn't talk much. How about Darrell Dave. We talked 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.280 about him on Thursday night. He was really non existent player. 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.360 I know. I didn't go into the Senior Bowl thinking 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.240 he was like a beast though. To be totally honest 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:52.600 with you, but yeah, no, I mean, but in a 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.280 group of receivers that had the opportunity in a bad week, 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.200 I gotta well, you guys tell me if I'm crazy, 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:00.720 because this is the guy that written, well, thanks Dan, 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:02.760 this is the guy that jumped out to me when 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:04.880 you told me we were doing this, and like he 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.640 didn't have a bad week and we talked about how 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:09.400 like you don't even know where to play him anyway, 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.240 But like Desmond King, see, I had him as on 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.320 my list too, I had him at number five on 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:15.920 my list. I just and like I said, like, I 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.600 don't think he was bad, but I'm I would argue 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.040 he's probably one of the most known names on that 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.560 rout out. Wow, how about how about a go make 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.800 a play on yeah Flash. This is some guys junior 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:28.520 that I thought it was a better player. He's a 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.920 Thorpe winner, He's won the Jim Thorpe Award. Anyone who 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:33.800 starties on tape knows him. He's not a burner that's 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.240 not going to run well right exactly. So when he 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.880 was up in press coverage and he didn't land his jam, 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.520 and you know, receivers are able to gain a free release, 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:43.400 he couldn't do anything about it. He couldn't recover, He 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:47.080 couldn't you know, be a factor at the catchpoint. So, yeah, 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.200 I think it's fair to mention him as a guy 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:52.440 who who probably hurt himself, although it's just that's kind 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.240 of his game. Uh, you know, he's probably a better 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.760 safety is a safety and Myra Kings, if he's gonna 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.840 stay at corner, probably a Cover two type of corner, 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.280 a guy that you know he's physical, but you don't 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.640 necessarily want him up pressing because if he gets beats. 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.400 Do either of you, sorry Brian, do either of you 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.760 think he's got a realistic chance even if you're drafting 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.760 in to play safety at being a first round pick. No, 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.920 probably not, not with the two safety. So you're probably 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:19.720 gonna take him the first round. And I guess an 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.400 LSU kid and the Ohio State kid now they'll have 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:23.880 to get into that. I'm sure there'll be a question 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.560 on Twitter on the twenty about that. It's harsh, it's harsh, 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.760 but I mean King is a loser because of that. Yeah, 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.600 I mean he a lot of people thought he would 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.240 be a first round pick, especially if he had come 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.000 out last year. I'd say that he's more of a 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.320 loser because he didn't come out last year and came 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:38.720 back for you know, he went came back for a 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.440 senior year. Got his degree. Yeah. I know we're sitting 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:43.760 here like blast right guy, No, but we're also talking 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.480 about drafted players to help our team win. Yeah, I'll 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.560 be better at a player like this who needs a 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:52.360 specific landing spot and a specific role. I just hope 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.200 he goes to the right spot where you know he's scheme, yeah, 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.560 or exactly so he can he can flourish because he 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:04.680 has skills. About my about my tackle guard from pitt Business, Watty, 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.760 how about that? Not a great not a great week? Yeah, 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:09.439 And I was kind of thinking that he was going 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:11.239 to be a guy that maybe if you're looking for 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.600 a swing player. He looked bad at guard, didn't look 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.120 great at tackle. Didn't think he played with any power. Yeah. 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.320 I don't think he's an anchor to meet inside the guard, 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.720 and he doesn't have the length to stay at tackle. 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:23.879 I don't know what you do with him. Yeah, he 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.000 did not have himself a good week. Really, you look 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:30.080 at all these tackles I mentioned, Garcia Business Watty, uh, 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.440 the Buckano kid Davenport, I didn't have a great week. 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.960 I didn't think Connor McDermott from UCLA had a good week. 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.080 Better in the game, I watched him in the game. 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.159 Just better in the game. But you're right, I'm not 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.400 I'm not discounting what you're saying. Just better in the game. 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.480 The only tackle who I saw that I really came 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.879 away saying, Okay, I liked what I saw was Taylor 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.359 Moton from Western Michigan, a guy who a lot of 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.160 people think he's a better guard, but I like him 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.439 at right tackle. I don't think I don't disagree with you. 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.720 I think I think he's all right. Okay, Well, that's 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.000 that does it for. That's the bow that we put 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:02.400 on the scene your bowl. When we come back from 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:04.200 our first break, we're gonna do a little Twitter on 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:05.840 the twenty. So make sure you get your questions in 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.679 at the Draft show. David Helmet will pull those up 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.800 and we'll get those answered for you. 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