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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on the ore war Room for incenter news and draft

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Speaker 1: analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at

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Speaker 1: the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Bikio Elliott and

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Speaker 1: now your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Draft Show is home. We're back at the SWBC

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Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios. Brian brought us Dane Brugler from CBS Sports

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Speaker 1: and contributor to Dallas Cowboys dot Com. David Hellman, writer

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Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Gentlemen, I'm gonna dive right

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Speaker 1: into this because I want to talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about the Senior Bowl. But I'll tell everybody what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do here a little bit first. You can always

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Speaker 1: get a hold of us at eight eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: calls today, probably gonna do that after we do Twitter

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Speaker 1: on the twenty. That's our next staple that we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have today. Needs you to get all your questions draft

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Speaker 1: related questions. Let Dane, David myself have an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: try and get those questions taken care for you. That's

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Speaker 1: at the Draft show. You can get your questions that way.

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Speaker 1: Kent Garrison will handle the calls. He's executive producer this

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Speaker 1: fine program, So make sure you're nice to Kent. But

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do Twitter on the twenty and then we're

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Speaker 1: also going to do a game at the end called

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Speaker 1: would you Rather? And I like this game because I

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Speaker 1: went back and looked at last year's draft, and I'm

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Speaker 1: comparing players from last year's draft, similar rounds, similar positions.

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Speaker 1: Would you rather? You haven't shared these yet? No, I

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Speaker 1: have not. I'm looking at them. I have the dubious

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Speaker 1: because I think this is gonna be hard. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. Yeah, I always I always try and

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Speaker 1: make it interesting because I want fans out there always

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Speaker 1: want to know is this guy better than is this?

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Speaker 1: Would you take? I don't know, Dane, how many times

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Speaker 1: you probably get a Twitter people ask you, they'll give

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Speaker 1: you three names and they ask you to which one

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Speaker 1: would you rather have? Right? And so I'm doing this

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Speaker 1: and it's not just first round guys, right, I've gone

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Speaker 1: fans will ask. This is something in war rooms better ask.

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Speaker 1: You know, they want to know. General manners want to

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Speaker 1: know from their scouts, who does this guy remind you of?

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Speaker 1: Compared to that. That's exactly right, Mike. My experience working

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Speaker 1: with Jerry Jones is Jerry Jones is better when you

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Speaker 1: describe a player or you say he is like this

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Speaker 1: guy and somebody that Jerry knows. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: compare players. So yeah, the head coach doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: compare players, but the owner general manage will compare players

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Speaker 1: all day. So that's what we got today. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: put a bowl in the Senior Bowl. Twitter on the

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Speaker 1: twenty and then Draft Show, would you rather? I said,

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Speaker 1: I want to get in that Senior Bowl And we

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Speaker 1: just got back from Mobile, had the game on, he

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Speaker 1: had a chance to look at it. Dane, two or three,

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Speaker 1: maybe four or five guys you thought were winners from

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and the week itself, not you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean just not the game, but like the week itself,

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Speaker 1: guys that helped themselves with their draft stock or give.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the people didn't know much about him, but elevated

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Speaker 1: themselves a little bit. I think any conversation has to

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Speaker 1: start with Hassan Reddick, my guy from Temple. You know,

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Speaker 1: a guy ranked highly going in, and he lived up

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be men right about him, but he's gonna

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Speaker 1: and mobile. He was asked to drop in space. About that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He catch your eye there as well. Oh yeah, I'm obvious.

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Speaker 1: How about that former former Tiger buy you Tiger? Uh?

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Speaker 1: This guy? We were watching him in from the press box, sure,

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Speaker 1: But he had his jersey rolled up is actually number

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Speaker 1: look at his maybe a sub package player earlier in

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Speaker 1: once he gets to an NFL team. What's really funny

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Speaker 1: to me is I think Duke Riley is a very

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Speaker 1: But the funny and I'm gonna mea culpa because you

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Speaker 1: I was like, like, I like Dion Jones a lot.

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Speaker 1: He's a great athlete. I don't maybe defensive rookie of

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Speaker 1: last week, before Dane left the Senior Bowl, we talked

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Speaker 1: a lot about Kareem Hunt. Yeah when and I mean

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, right, and I mean more power to him.

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Speaker 1: Get your money, dude, And speaking about this team specifically

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Speaker 1: having one fumble one that game that freshman any and

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Speaker 1: Do you have anybody else there, Dave. I actually, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going back to what we talked about, and I

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Speaker 1: when you had a better chance to look Jordan Willis? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Do you think he could be right in worthy? Dane

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Speaker 1: you know the bend? Do you see the bend from

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Speaker 1: Where's the point where he gets to the quarterback? Right?

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Speaker 1: Where does he find his path at that way? So

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Speaker 1: that he could do both, But to me, he's more

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Speaker 1: a great individual as well. I mean Bill Snyder raves

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Speaker 1: stiffness in his pass rush. You know, there are some

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Speaker 1: times we just cannot bend around that corner and win

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Speaker 1: the arc. This passions class is so loaded, right, and

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Speaker 1: so this guy, for me, I like him, But when

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Speaker 1: you put him in context of the other rushers in

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Speaker 1: this class pass rushers, you know, he's down outside my

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Speaker 1: top fifteen right at the position just because it's so loaded.

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Speaker 1: So I liked the player, I just think there will

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Speaker 1: be probably more people that like him more than I

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Speaker 1: Willis and Hall play that game with me, Charlton, to me,

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Speaker 1: rusher end run defender Hall Hall is interesting. Um, I

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Speaker 1: Charlton Willison Hall Is how I had it. You have

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Speaker 1: us David Hellman, Kick Garrison, Executive Producer. I just want

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Speaker 1: to also say thanks everybody out there. I always do this.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to everybody out there that's followed along at the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl three days that we did shows there. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming back with us again. We always like to

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Speaker 1: talk about we investigate and educate, but we also like

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Speaker 1: to get you involved in the show, and this is

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Speaker 1: our opportunity to do that with Twitter on the twenty

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Speaker 1: and Twitter on the twenty. Here we go. I've missed that,

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Speaker 1: So David Hellman take it over, please shout out ed

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Speaker 1: ka Hill. All Right, we're gonna start with some some

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Speaker 1: pertinent news. Doug wants to know, a lot of other

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Speaker 1: people want to know. We talked about it in the

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Speaker 1: mail bag today. News coming out that Malie Cooker, widely

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Speaker 1: regarded as the top or one of the top safeties

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Speaker 1: in this draft, is having surgery on his labor, labor

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Speaker 1: and hernia as well. Yeah, what does that mean for

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Speaker 1: him going forward? I mean we still got about a

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Speaker 1: month till the combine. Means he misses the combine, it's

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Speaker 1: not going to work out. Yeah, Well, that's the biggest

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Speaker 1: worry is he won't be able to work out prior

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Speaker 1: to the draft. And so you're taking a player that

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Speaker 1: you're going strictly based off one year of tape because

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Speaker 1: he this is he was a one year starter at

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, a redshirt sophomore, so a young player. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and having the two surgeries, the torn labram and the

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Speaker 1: hernia there, you know there are question marks here. Um now,

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Speaker 1: will this is this going to drastically push him down

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Speaker 1: the board? Doubtful. As long as we go to the

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Speaker 1: combine and you know everything checks out okay as being

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Speaker 1: on pace and with his rehab, he's still going to

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Speaker 1: be a top half of round one. Now, this isn't

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Speaker 1: going to help the Cowboys, but it could help a

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Speaker 1: team like the Brown at number twelve. You know, you

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Speaker 1: never know, Malie Cooker could fall to them at number twelve.

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Speaker 1: They could gut a discount on the player because of

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Speaker 1: this injury. So it will be something that we have

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Speaker 1: to monitor. But we'll learn more about it in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: Do you have him as your top free safety and

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Speaker 1: Adams is your top strong safety or do you have

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Speaker 1: them paired together? I like to rank my just like

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Speaker 1: I do my linebackers. I just put them all together. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And do you have Hooker over Adams? Yes, because a

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Speaker 1: lot of these guys who can play both. I think

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Speaker 1: Adams could realistic play both. Sure, he's a better strong

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Speaker 1: than free, but I think he can play both hooker

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Speaker 1: a better free obviously, but I think he's a top

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Speaker 1: safety this year. Those ball skills, that range, he just

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Speaker 1: can't teach that. Yeah, I think so too. I have

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Speaker 1: him as my end and people were asking me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter whether I felt like that he would drop to

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Speaker 1: twenty eight. I think you're I think you're accurately accurately,

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Speaker 1: I think you're accurate in your statement that he's probably

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Speaker 1: now more of a mid round type of a player

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Speaker 1: than he is, say the upper top of the draft.

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Speaker 1: If he falls to twenty eight, you probably don't want

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Speaker 1: him because he's falling for a reason. Yeah, so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I would I let's consider him

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Speaker 1: at twenty eight though, if that medical stuff checks out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this team is that this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: another one. I mean every year there's something where, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, the questions about this won't be let me

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Speaker 1: let me tell you this guy's draft to get ready for,

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Speaker 1: and let me tell you this get ready for more.

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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be two or three more. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Medical questions of top shots always are I say every year,

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Speaker 1: and I think there's and I'm just kind of hearing

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Speaker 1: some whispers. So I don't really want to get into names,

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Speaker 1: but I just think you have to be ready that

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be when we get to the combine here

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Speaker 1: and we'll be there every day. Spill your secrets, Brough.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you guys off air, but you know, especially

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Speaker 1: the contact guys, running backs, the linebackers, guys that are

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Speaker 1: used to take a lot of abuse. Ji, Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, David. I got a fun hypothetical

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Speaker 1: here from the kawayat kawaiat Storm who appears to be

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Speaker 1: a Spurs fan. He wants to know if Tack McKinley,

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Speaker 1: Cory Davis, and O. J. Howard are all there at

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Speaker 1: twenty eight, who do you like? Speaking of injury guys,

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Speaker 1: Tack Kinley with what's going on with him? Well, another

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Speaker 1: wait and see situation, Um, another laboring problem is well right, um,

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Speaker 1: and he to my knowledge, he has not got surgery yet.

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Speaker 1: He's waiting on like a second opinion and figuring out

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Speaker 1: what the best best way to go defense is what

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Speaker 1: this team needs at twenty eight. Right, there's no question

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Speaker 1: about that. But if an offensive playmaker falls to you

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Speaker 1: at twenty eight, you know you don't turn your head

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Speaker 1: at that And if somehow Corey Davis falls at twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking. I don't think there's there's just

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Speaker 1: a very very small chance he would fall that far.

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Speaker 1: If he would, you don't even think about it. He's

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Speaker 1: the pick, at least in my opinion. You can I

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Speaker 1: ask you a question, what do you got? And you

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Speaker 1: got Howard? And you had this Miami kid in Juku? No, no, no, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I got a question about that. You're all right, well

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Speaker 1: let's just get right there then, all right, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: your heads in the right play because I want to

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Speaker 1: ask him. I agree with you on Davis by the

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Speaker 1: LP eighty one wants you to basically break down in

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Speaker 1: Joku versus Howard. What are we dealing with? Types of player?

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Speaker 1: Who do you like more? Blah blah blah and JOKEU

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Speaker 1: is just such a physical freak. He's so athletic for

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Speaker 1: a guy that's you know, two hundred forty two hundred

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Speaker 1: forty five pounds. Eager to get to India to see

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Speaker 1: the exact measurements on him. This is a state national

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Speaker 1: champion high jumper, yeah, high school. You can see it

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Speaker 1: with the way he plays right in his route acceleration.

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Speaker 1: How fluid. He is. His catching runs skills, He's a

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Speaker 1: tough blocker. He needs a lot of work in that area.

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Speaker 1: But he's only twenty years old, has only nine starts

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Speaker 1: in his career at Miami. The production isn't amazing, but

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Speaker 1: you look all of his production last year, almost a

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Speaker 1: fifth of his total production, his catches went for at

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Speaker 1: least thirty yards. It's a big play threat. He's right now.

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Speaker 1: Oj Howard's a better player long term. It's hard not

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Speaker 1: to believe this guy's not the better player. I tweeted

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Speaker 1: this out this morning, but I had a scout tell

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Speaker 1: me that their tight ends coach said, and Joku has

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Speaker 1: the most upside of any tight end he's ever seen.

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Speaker 1: That is that's that is That's accurate. He's just's very

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Speaker 1: big with the natural tools, and so there is, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, some some question there if you know, obviously

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Speaker 1: he has to reach the potential, but the tools are

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Speaker 1: just outstanding. And that's not to say Howard doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of those tools to be a successful pro.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think he has the same type of

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Speaker 1: ceiling as in Joku. Is that That's the most fascinating

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Speaker 1: component of draft talk right there? Is like ceiling verse floor,

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Speaker 1: like like the Bosa thing last year. It's like maybe

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have the ceiling of like a jadeveon Clowney,

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Speaker 1: but he's got the ridiculously high floor, Like what do

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Speaker 1: you value more? And actually, and I know he's not healthy,

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Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter. But if Jake Butt was healthy,

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Speaker 1: I mean, based on what y'all are telling me, I

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Speaker 1: would still have Howard. I'd say he's Miami and easily third. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But would you argue that he's got a higher floor

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Speaker 1: in terms of like you know what he is and

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Speaker 1: you know what he'll be or is that projecting too much? Then?

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Speaker 1: And Joeku, I'd say, definitely Howard, I think he's got

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Speaker 1: He's a polished guy in a lot of respects. I

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Speaker 1: think he's him and but both have I think high ceilings.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not she's worried about you know who

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be as pro But you know with the

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Speaker 1: thing with Butt though, is and scouts are pointing this

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Speaker 1: out to me. When you watch him play, it's a

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Speaker 1: lot of the underneath stuff. Yeah, it's a lot of

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Speaker 1: drags and things like that cutting where Howard is more

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Speaker 1: of a down the field. Now they'll throw some waggles

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Speaker 1: and stuff where Howard drags, but his stuff seems to

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Speaker 1: be more down the field. I know. But but can

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Speaker 1: make plays down tofild. I'm not saying he can't, but

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Speaker 1: I think that you see with Howard, you know, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you where I said this too in our shows.

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Speaker 1: I felt like that the that the Browns coach just

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Speaker 1: did Howard a favor playing him in line. I thought

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Speaker 1: that showed scouts hand on the ground playing next to

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Speaker 1: a tackle making things happen in the running game. I

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Speaker 1: doing that, and he responded by playing well. Yea his

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Speaker 1: release off the line of scrimmage, She's still able to

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Speaker 1: gain separation with ease during drills. Yeah, o J. Howard

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Speaker 1: only cemented himself at the top senior tight end, and

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Speaker 1: really he's just battling in Joku to be that top

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Speaker 1: tight end. Drafted, I think both realistically could be looked

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Speaker 1: at as a top twenty pick. I don't sit there

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Speaker 1: if you know, if you lose Howard and Joku, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I would be totally disappointed looking for

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Speaker 1: a tight end and picking him. I think I think

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Speaker 1: they're very I think they're very close the Miami kid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah they are. It's on what y'all are

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Speaker 1: telling me. Yeah, I mean, if you're if you lose,

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Speaker 1: and I think Howard's gone before Dallas picks twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: But you're where does this guy go? This guy could

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Speaker 1: be This guy to me, could be at the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the first rounde I'll be surprised if he gets

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Speaker 1: that far. I think he's gonna do you think he's

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Speaker 1: maybe top twenty, Yeah, I think I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be like this might be an Eric Ebron situation where

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Speaker 1: I was tenth, right. I maybe my memory sucks, but like,

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Speaker 1: when was the last time you saw two tight ends

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Speaker 1: go in the top? I mean, I know we've had

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Speaker 1: Eifford and ERTs in recent years, but I mean, it

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Speaker 1: seems unusual to have like two or three tight ends

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Speaker 1: go in the top. It is first round, No, there's

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Speaker 1: no question it is. And I think but they're athletes. Now,

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Speaker 1: this would be they're like big wide receivers rightly, and

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Speaker 1: this year we might have six tight ends drafted in

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Speaker 1: the first two rounds, and that would be the first

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Speaker 1: time that's happened since nineteen seventy three. So yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: and especially at the top of those two guys, I

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Speaker 1: think and Joku is going to absolutely blow up the combine.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna put a further separation between

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Speaker 1: and Joku in that twenty eighth pick. I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be long gone. Yeah. See. The thing about it

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Speaker 1: too is Howard will compete to Howard will go out

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Speaker 1: there and there'll be two guys going at it and you,

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Speaker 1: and then when we get there, and when we get

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Speaker 1: to the we have our shows, all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: we'll be talking about, well, hey, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: And then you're mentioned about the tight the other tight ends.

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Speaker 1: And that's not to say that the other tight ends

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Speaker 1: won't be you know, won't be just talked about just

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Speaker 1: as much. And that's the thing is, that's the reason

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Speaker 1: not to take one of these guys high, because it

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Speaker 1: is a deep tight end class. So in Evan ingram A,

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Speaker 1: Bucky Hodges, John new Smith, Gerald Everett, the kid from

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Speaker 1: South Alabama, you can get these guys second, third, fourth rounds,

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Speaker 1: and there they might not be as good as a

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Speaker 1: Howard or in Joku, they're still pretty darn good tight ends.

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Speaker 1: I can imagine somebody somewhere is just like, the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: don't need tight end and stop talking about this. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna move on, move on, Sean. This

638
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Speaker 1: is a tricky question. The wording I mean, Sean. He

639
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Speaker 1: basically wants to know you think about the positions of

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Speaker 1: need that we're thinking about here, pass rusher, wide receiver, cornerback, safety, safety. Sure,

641
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Speaker 1: of all of the positions that you think the Cowboys need,

642
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Speaker 1: which one do you think sets up to where it

643
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprising to see them pass in the first round.

644
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Speaker 1: So what I'm trying to say is a position that

645
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Speaker 1: you really don't feel good about a prospect being there

646
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Speaker 1: at twenty eight, we just say tight end. I would

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Speaker 1: say tight end. Yeah, I think Howard and Jokeu are

648
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Speaker 1: both gone, and you know it's too rich for a

649
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Speaker 1: butt or these other guys, So I think you know, okay,

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Speaker 1: let's just let's talk about the top five needs at

651
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Speaker 1: this point. I mean, you're looking at pass rusher, you're right, corner,

652
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: you're looking at tight end. Probably safety's in there, depending

653
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Speaker 1: on what moves are made here in the off season,

654
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: and then wide receiver maybe so, uh, you know, I

655
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: think tight end probably would make the most sense there,

656
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: and then after that maybe wide receiver. So, you know,

657
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Speaker 1: looking two guys on two guys on all, did you

658
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Speaker 1: feel good at twenty eight picking White? Yeah, Travis White

659
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Speaker 1: or Sidney Jones at twenty eight? Yeah? I think so,

660
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: see okay, and I feel fantastic about the thoughts thought

661
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Speaker 1: of a good corner being there at twenty eight. Yeah,

662
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: it just seems so loaded. Uh do you and I

663
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: know Brian feels the same way about pass Rusher or

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Speaker 1: you You've said that in the Yeah, I think. So

665
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Speaker 1: do you feel that way? Like, do you think there's

666
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Speaker 1: a really good chance that a guy that you like

667
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: will be there at twenty eight? Yeah? I do. Pass

668
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: rusher is just so loaded. I mean, you can go.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's see any first round grades I have

670
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Speaker 1: at first at pass rushing. We talked about McKinley, potentially

671
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: I have ten first round grade. Yeah, pass rusher, and

672
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: so there's a great chance when he's got you know,

673
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: like carl Lawson loss, Yeah, I think he could be there,

674
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: tack McKinley. I think Taco Charlton probably goes top twenty five.

675
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: But Tim Williams with his issues. See Tim Williams is

676
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Speaker 1: the one I absolutely love, and I hate the fact

677
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Speaker 1: that he has all these red flags right that, because

678
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: to me, you watch Tim Williams play at Alabama, you

679
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: you're like, WHOA, I get it, speed, explosiveness, finish, just

680
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: all around game right there. But the fact that he's

681
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: got so many red flags right there's I don't think

682
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Speaker 1: there's any way the Cowboys can take him, not after

683
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: after Gregory. There's no way. Yeah, no way they could

684
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Speaker 1: take because this is a legitimate top ten, top fifteen

685
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: type of player in this draft. So if he's availed

686
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: about twenty eight, there's a reason for that. Sure, So

687
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, I don't they can't fall in that trap again. Oh,

688
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: they won't fall there, he said, I mean you said tack,

689
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: you said losson Tim Taco anybody else? Charles Harrison Missouri, Missouri. Yeah,

690
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: I think he's in the in that smooth Maybe are

691
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: you having the third? I have more of a two

692
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: three on him. Derek Barnett a guy who isn't gonna

693
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: wow with his You know, his tape is amazing, but

694
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: he's in it. The production's outstanding, But I don't think

695
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna wow with the you know, the testing drills

696
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: at the combine. I don't think he falls to twenty eight,

697
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: but you never know. I didn't think Byron Jones would fall.

698
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: Would you take him a twenty eight? Because I had

699
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: people Barnette, Yeah, I had people on Twitter asked me

700
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: about him. I don't gonna make it that far. But

701
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: if he somehow he did, absolutely I need to rewatch him.

702
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: I didn't have a good I didn't have a good

703
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: view of him initially. I and I'm watching other I'm

704
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: watching tackles play. I was watching some offensive tackles and

705
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he was one of how the

706
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: tapes are cut, you know, he all of a sudden

707
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: he's busting by one of these tackles. I'm going, Oh,

708
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: that's Barnett. I have people like trying to compare him

709
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: and Garrett because of the production and trying to tell

710
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: me Barnett's better, and I mean it's not even close

711
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: to me, Miles. Garrett's head and shoulders above the bend.

712
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking about though? Is that the question I think

713
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: people some people think I don't like Barnett. I love him.

714
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: If he's there twenty eight. Oh my gosh. Absolutely. I

715
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: just note David Dane, this is a very Cowboys centric question,

716
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: So I apologize, but I think it's worth talking about

717
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: just in the grand scheme of things. We've talked about

718
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: it a lot. I apologize, Brian, but the Lyle Collins

719
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: saga sure talk a lot about the problem. I mean,

720
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: what happens to Leary? Do you try to keep Leary here?

721
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: Does he leaving free agency? Do you consider playing Lyle

722
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: to Collins at right tackle, and you know, as his

723
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: long term future? And I think that's important because if

724
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: any of that were to happen, guard suddenly becomes somewhat

725
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: of a problem for you. Sure, And so I mean,

726
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: do you do you what do you see happening there?

727
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: Do you think there's even any anything there at all?

728
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I think this is crystal clear. I think

729
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: he's going to play guard. I think Ron Leary's going

730
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: to get a sizeable contract offer from somebody else. I

731
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: think Lyle Collins's skill set suits him really well to

732
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: be a very powerful and athletic guard rather than a

733
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: decent tackle. And I think you still have Jazz Green waiting.

734
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, they're not they're not they're they're saying that

735
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: they're not interested right now in talking about that is

736
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we asked Steven Stephen Jones at and they're

737
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: not interested right now. Of addressing it now, I will

738
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: say this, They have not met as a staff. They're

739
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: the coaches are due back after the Tuesday after the

740
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: super Bowl, and so they will have their personal meetings

741
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: to talk about their team. But I think in due

742
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: time we will hear. Okay, hey, Lyle Collins could be

743
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: this or could be Jerry. I had Jerry Jones tell

744
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: me he is not interested. And this was a while back.

745
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: Was not interested in moving Lyle Collins to tackle. He

746
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: just was not interested at all. I don't think they should,

747
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: although I will say and last thing on this until

748
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: we have more information, I guess, but I mean, people

749
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: don't want to hear it because of all the defensive

750
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: needs on this team. But if Lyle was to move

751
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: to right tackle, guard becomes a need probably and if

752
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: you keep him at guard, I mean tackle guards in

753
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: this draft, tackle is a sneaky need on this team. Oh,

754
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: tackle too. You can't count on Chad's green, I mean,

755
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: and Doug's got a year left on his deal. Yeah,

756
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: Dane told us that he's often injured, and he was

757
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: absolutely right. He's been two years, he's been hurt two years.

758
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: I don't know how you sit there and think that

759
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna change you hope. But offensive lineman when they

760
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: get in the league, they're not supposed to get hurt. Yeah,

761
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: they play, They play eight ten years and they just play.

762
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: They just keep playing. They don't do I mean, they don't.

763
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: You know, Miss Frederick hasn't missed his snap since yeah

764
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: got on the field. They don't. They don't. They don't

765
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: sit there and don't stand next to you and I.

766
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: During practice, Chads Green spent more time on the training

767
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: table at Florida that he did on the field. That's

768
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: in Shane, So I don't. And he's got talent. You

769
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: could see that when he plays. He was worth a

770
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: third round pick in terms of talent in my opinion,

771
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: But I you know, when you factor in the durability,

772
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: that's tough one to swallow. I don't think it's time

773
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: to close the door on him yet, but I would

774
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: not be surprised and I don't think it would be

775
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: a bad idea for the Cowboys to draft an offensive

776
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 1: lineman in the first half of the draft. Bulls kid

777
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: interest you from Utah at all? Not really. I think

778
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna bulls McDermott, any of those guys. I'm not

779
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: a McDermott fan at all. I don't think he has

780
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: the anchor strength to hold up. I think Miles Garrett

781
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: showed exactly all of his weaknesses. Moten was the guy

782
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: that you like. I like Molten quite a bit. Yeah,

783
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: I think you know this tackle class, there's a lot

784
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: of holes. Ramsick the Wisconsin kid. I think you need

785
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: to watch. We go high in the first round, but yeah,

786
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: second third round, not a lot of death that you like.

787
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: But Molten's definitely want to see. I wanted to like

788
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: Banner and you talk me out of that. I watched him.

789
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: He's slow footed, You're right, I mean that's he's a

790
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: guard for me. Yeah, oh really, you know it's just

791
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: a big body who you know it? I don't know.

792
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: I just I don't. I have questions about him, but

793
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: I think the more I watched him live, the more

794
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,120
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Speaker 1: the box a little bit. So everybody loves comparisons. So

847
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't like this game because we're getting ready to

848
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: trash one of my pet cats. Right to start this thing,

849
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: Go ahead, we're talking about all right, So we're comparing

850
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: last year's aspects to guys in this year's class. So

851
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 1: knowing full well, who would you rather have? Who would

852
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: you rather have? And just take it as take it

853
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: as don't look at the NFL season, but take it

854
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: as who would you rather have at the time of

855
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: the draft, who would you rather have? So we just

856
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: forget what we know last how many months? Yeah, you know,

857
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: on the draft? On the draft, good luck blocking that

858
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: out of your right. It's always tough to do that.

859
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: But give it a go, Okay, give it a go. Right,

860
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: Who would you rather have Old miss receiver Laquon Treadwell

861
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: or Clemson receiver Mike Williams. That's a good one. That's

862
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: a very good question. I think we all three of

863
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: us loved Treadwell. We did like so much, and I

864
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: still big big receivers. Both of them are big receivers.

865
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: Both of them make plays down the field, both make

866
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: plays underneath. We're in a little bit of a disadvantage

867
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: because we don't know what Mike Williams. Mike Williams goes

868
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: and runs a four or four nine, then he'll be faster,

869
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: much faster, because we thought, we thought Treadwell would have

870
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: problems with the forty times right, and he was in

871
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: the low four or the high four or five, low four, fives, four, five, seven,

872
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 1: something like that. So if you know, if Mike Williams

873
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: goes out and you know, improves on that time, I

874
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: think I'd probably lean that way. With Mike Williams, what

875
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: he brings to the field, I think he god, I mean,

876
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: treadwill was just so good on tape, though, going to

877
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: getting football. It's just a big body guy. Either those Williams.

878
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you watch Williams that National Championship game. He's

879
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: killing those guys with Alabama. Unbelievable. Yeah, there are guys

880
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: that will consistently separate on their own. You know, they're

881
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: more h They're comfortable with the defender on their back.

882
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: You know they can they can still be a productive

883
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: I think based on I think, uh, Mike Willims a

884
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: little bit more speed, and I think I'd probably lean

885
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: that way. I think you'd lean towards the speed too.

886
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: I think I think just the quicker guy. This is

887
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: in and out of route. I y'all are right, but

888
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with Kwon just kind of loyalty because

889
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: I just I can't abandon him that quickly after how

890
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: much I left him. Yeah, I think the main factor

891
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: between the two is the quickness. That's where I think

892
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: them the main differences. Who would you rather have Ohio

893
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: State cornerback Eli Apple or Ohio State cornerback Marshawn Lattimore.

894
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: I think, good question. I probably try it to scame personally.

895
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: I have Marshawn Lattimore. I keep saying Marcus Latimore. I've

896
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: got to make sure Marshawn Lattimore. I have him with

897
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 1: a much higher grade than I had on Eli Apple.

898
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: And I liked Apple, I didn't. I liked Apple more

899
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: than you did, much more than I did. But and

900
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: he played well for the job well, I gotta take

901
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: that out of my mind. But I had Apple was

902
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 1: more of amid the late First. You know a guy

903
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: that you consider somewhere in the top twenty, top twenty five,

904
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: you end up going what ten, so a lot higher

905
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 1: than you know either of us thought. But I've got

906
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: a Lottimore as a true top ten pick. I got

907
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: you know that athleticism is off the charts. That's actually

908
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 1: and it worked against you on the last one because

909
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: Treadwell had such a bad rookie year. I thought Apple's

910
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: play as a rookie was far better than what I

911
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: saw from him on tapes. Yeah, I thought the Ohio

912
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: State I thought the Ohio State tape was not great

913
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: for no And I think that Lattimore's tape is. Yeah.

914
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: So I agree with Dane. I think if you just

915
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: watching the two on Ohio State tape, I would take

916
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: Lattimore over Apple. Yet Lattimore, I mean, he's like a

917
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: consensus tip ten pick where. I mean, that's why I

918
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: think so if he was in the last year's class,

919
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: he would be over all those guys, the Florida guys,

920
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't be over Ramsey. I don't think he'd

921
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: be over Robin not probably not over Ramsey. Who would you?

922
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: And this is great because I think this is two

923
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: guys that you don't like, So that's good. Who would

924
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: you rather have? Notre Dame offensive tackle Ronnie Stanley or

925
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: Alabama offensive tackle Cam Robinson Stanley. I don't think this

926
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: one's even that hard. Honestly, you'd rather have, you know that,

927
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: have Stanley over Robinson? I would. I had my problems

928
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: with Stanley. M boy, I had a lot of problems,

929
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: but I and I'm not. I'm not. I don't know

930
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: if Cam Robinson's a first round tackle. Y'all were Ronnie

931
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: Hayters last year? Yeah, I didn't like Ronnie Ronnie Stanley

932
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: as high as he went, um boy, I thought he

933
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: was soft adn't fight. Yeah, I think Cam Robinson at

934
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: least fights. Give me. I would take Ronnie Stanley. I

935
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: think it's pretty that's pretty easy for me. I think

936
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: I Cam Robinson and maybe I'm buy like a lot

937
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: of hype not a lot of substance. I don't Cam Robinson. Yeah,

938
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: you watch his highlights and okay, but then you watch

939
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: the full tape and you're like, I don't know if

940
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: I love this guy. You might not be a first

941
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 1: round guy. Yeah, I know, but I'm saying I didn't

942
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: think Ronnie Stanley was do youaha? Two? Yeah? See I didn't.

943
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: I just didn't. I just did not see a grind

944
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: you into the ground guy. And I see that a

945
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: little bit more with Robertson. You care more about the

946
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: attitude I do. Yeah. Yeah, I want to see a

947
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: mean so ob play. That's what I want. Yeah, you're

948
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: not wrong. I mean that's what you want in an

949
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: offensive tackle, especially when you're investing a top ten pick in. Yeah,

950
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: but Robinson will be interesting because this is such a

951
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: weak tackle class. Right, He's gonna get bumped up a

952
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: little bit. So we'll see who would you rather have,

953
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: Indiana running back Jordan Howard or Tennessee running back Alvin Kamara.

954
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: I've got a higher grade on Kamara. How do you

955
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: block out this? You know, rookie? See, I know, but

956
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: I think there were some traits that he had Kamara

957
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: as a run, catch block guy exactly, and so is Howard.

958
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Howard is a guy that if you watched

959
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: him on Indiana tape, poor Howard would be the toast

960
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: of the NFL if not for Ezekiel Elliott. Right, I

961
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: didn't even know until the last month of the season.

962
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: Why how about Indiana putting out a couple of Coleman

963
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: and Howard back to back. Yeah, and both guys that

964
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: were kind of I don't know Tom or Howard's from

965
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 1: UAB or you know, come out of nowhere. So with Howard,

966
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: he's got a little more power than Kamara, and I

967
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: think he's more of a true feature back. I mean

968
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: he can be that guy that can carry the ball

969
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: twenty plus times. Again, Kamara, I don't think he's that guy.

970
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: He's never been that guy over his career. I see

971
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 1: more of a complimentary running back. Um. But with that said,

972
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: I have a higher grade on Kamara than I did Howard.

973
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: But I think I probably just missed on Howard. I

974
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: think I would take I think I would take Howard

975
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: because I kind of liked what I saw from those

976
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: Indiana running backs. I liked what I saw I loved Cole.

977
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: That was my guy, and I liked it in a

978
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: game this Sunday. So I love the run, the run, block,

979
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: catch guy. Give me that guy, and both these guys do.

980
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna say you just said Kamara can do all

981
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: the same stuff. He's five of eight. What is five watching?

982
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: He's a little light. You were watching tape of him

983
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: the other day, and he's got some pretty sweet balance.

984
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: He does have some sweet balance absolutely as a catcher

985
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. Yeah, that's gonna be his bread

986
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: and butter. I think I trend toward younger, newer, So

987
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna year younger, new shiny toy. Uh. Who

988
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: would you rather have Oklahoma State and Emmanuel Ogba or

989
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: Illinois Duane Smoot. I'm not as big of a Smoot

990
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: fan as as you are, so I Ogba would be

991
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: my cup of tea in that comparison. Um, I think

992
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: you just love a little bit more to what about

993
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: when your boy when your boy white Hair just mauled

994
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: him in that game? My boy white Hair, Yeah he did.

995
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: Ogba he has power, he has Uh. I think a

996
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: little bit more, a few more pass rush weapons to

997
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: work with to beat the tackle. Um. You know, Smoot

998
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: is a nice player. I just don't see is there

999
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 1: another Is there another guy on the of those defensive

1000
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: ends if I could compare him to somebody else? All right, well,

1001
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: how about or Charlton. I think I'm taking Agba? Okay,

1002
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: I think I am. I didn't like Agba, and I

1003
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: mean he proved me wrong. He had a good year

1004
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: for a bad team. So but I think I think Agba,

1005
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: I think as could play. I think he's a little

1006
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: I can't think he'd play right in. I don't know

1007
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: if Charlton can play right in. That's a tough one. Yeah,

1008
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I really don't these pass rushers are. We're

1009
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: gonna be debating in the rest of the way because

1010
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: this is tough to figure out, especially when you throw

1011
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: in an Agba into the mix. You know where he

1012
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: would fit. It just really makes it complicated. There's so

1013
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: many because pass rush you win in different ways. You know,

1014
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: there's so many different flavors of you know, ways to

1015
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. And Aga is a perfect example

1016
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: of that. He's not a true just you know, speed rusher.

1017
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 1: He's got a little powers, got Ben do him. Um,

1018
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 1: And you know with this class, I don't know where

1019
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: he would fit for me. I think somewhere somewhere right

1020
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: a round, Taco Charles. That's why I picked the second round.

1021
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: We had this all those second round guys. Let me

1022
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: first early second, I'm going to derail the game for

1023
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: a second. And I know I know what right ends do.

1024
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: I know why it's important in the scheme of football.

1025
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: I get all that, but for this team, and I

1026
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: know de Marcus Lawrence is in a contract here for

1027
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: that matter. But with Lawrence and then Mayoa capable of

1028
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: doing that, like do you overvalue the right end? Thing?

1029
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: Like can't you just get a guy who can rush

1030
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: the passer from anywhere? And no that that's that's fair.

1031
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: I mean that's fair, and he plays left end, get

1032
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. But I always thought de Marcus Lawrence

1033
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: was a better right end. That's how I evaluated, and

1034
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: coming out of Boise State, I didn't. I didn't. I

1035
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: don't disagree with it. He's had done a nice job

1036
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: at left end. Yeah, so no, I think that's a

1037
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: great eight sacks had a left end. You got eight

1038
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: actually left end and won it, right, I mean, I

1039
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: know there's different circumstances work. I mean, he had Hardy

1040
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: helping him in twenty fifteen. But at some point, just

1041
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: get a guy on the team who can get to

1042
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: the quarterback. And if he does it from left end,

1043
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: what I mean, let's put it this way. You know,

1044
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: is the tandem of Lawrence and Mayowa better at right

1045
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: end than I mean, if you get Tyrone Crawford some

1046
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: help with a Crawford and if you played David Urban

1047
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: over there, well, I can't remember. Do you like Irving

1048
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: more attacks? I like him at tackled I like him, Yeah,

1049
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: I think they like him more. To end, I don't

1050
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: know they. I can't get anybody to give me an answer.

1051
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: I just get frustrated with the like, well that's not

1052
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: his best face. Like, just get a guy in here

1053
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: who can rush. Just give me a guy right anyway? Um,

1054
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: who do you who would you rather have? Arkansas tight

1055
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: end Hunter Henry or Miami tight end David and Joku

1056
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: Give me the freak and Joku? Uh both athletes, though

1057
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: right a solid athlete. I think it was a terrible blocker.

1058
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: I thought he was one of the worst blocking tight

1059
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: ends we evaluated, that's for sure. But he has sticky hands,

1060
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: and he can get open down the field. I think

1061
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: the Charlie good atselves a pretty good tight end in

1062
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: the second round. But and joke, who's just at a

1063
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: different level. And he's by you know, not a perfect

1064
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: player by all. I mean, you're you're really projecting with

1065
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: a guy like this. He's a work on his route,

1066
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: running his hands only a red shirt sophomore, a young player,

1067
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: like I mentioned, twenty years old, so he's not nearly

1068
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: as seasoned as a Hunter Henry was entering the league.

1069
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: But in terms of upside of potential, gimmeon, Joko, I

1070
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: always want upside of potential. Um, who would you rather

1071
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: have linebacker Ohio State linebacker Darren Lee or Vanderbilt linebacker

1072
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: Zach Cunningham. That's a good one. Where where do you

1073
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: stand on this one? Brian? I love you know me.

1074
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: I love Cunningham and I and I really but I

1075
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: know you loved Lee because the league, because he the

1076
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: playmaking abilities, stuff like right, the ability to run bigger,

1077
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: taller guy, rangy guy. I love, I love Cunningham, though

1078
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: Cunningham is one of my top five guys overall overall, really,

1079
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: if the seventy guys seventy five guys I've seen Right now,

1080
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm putting I am done quarterback. I mean there's

1081
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: some position I haven't done, but the seventy five guys

1082
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: I've seen, I would put him in my top. I

1083
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: thought I loved Cunningham. I've been talking about him all year,

1084
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: and I thought I liked him a lot. But there

1085
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: is something about him that that the length, the build,

1086
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: the ability to get to the football, the finish, there's

1087
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: watch him. He came in at number sixteen on my board,

1088
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: so I thought I liked him more than on Oh

1089
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: you're you know you're not alone on this one. You don't, okay,

1090
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: if you would not walk alone on this try. Brian

1091
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: hasn't watched as many guys as you though, so oh,

1092
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: but I've watched seventy five the top guys. So that's

1093
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean top five. That that's saying you like him?

1094
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: Where do you like? His best fit? Outside? Inside? I

1095
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: like him. I have him on my board as an

1096
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, Okay, I like I think he puts on

1097
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: a clinic if I had to play the linebacker position.

1098
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: He really does that stop against Georgia to win that game,

1099
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: unbelievable he is always around the football. He is, I mean,

1100
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: and he never comes off the field. You could put

1101
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: him in coverage. He'll actually for a big, tall guy,

1102
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: he can cover. I think we both agree we'd take

1103
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: him over Lee. Yeah, okay, I just I didn't like

1104
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: Lee that much. I just wanted to say, yeah, no,

1105
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: I know, I remember that from last year. Thank you guy.

1106
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: You do like though? Would you rather have Kansas State

1107
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: offensive lineman Cody white Hair or Ohio State center Pat

1108
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 1: elf Line? Give me white hair? Give me my white

1109
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: Hair is one of my pet cats last year. I

1110
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: think I had him twenty five overall on my board.

1111
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: He end up falling to the second round and the

1112
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: Bears got a steal. They put him at center and

1113
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: he had a great rookie year. Oh take that out. No,

1114
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: he was. He was paying my elf Line close to

1115
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: this was a very white hair friendly zone in twenty sixteen.

1116
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: That whole show. So yeah, no, we liked him. I

1117
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: liked the Ohio State Center myself. I like him, I

1118
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: really do, and I and I don't. I don't have

1119
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: him in the first round, him as a second round player,

1120
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: but I think this guy, I think he's got some

1121
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick traits to him. And I'm not just talking

1122
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: big ten traits. I'm talking about mobility, second level block

1123
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 1: snatch guy's position, stand your feet, get outside, they pull him.

1124
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean the ball goes to the outside and here

1125
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 1: he's he's running around the corner like you know, like impressive. Yeah,

1126
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: and he was a guard his entire career up until

1127
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: a senior season, so I you know he see him

1128
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: in both spots. I agree. I have a two three

1129
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 1: on elf line. I think he can be a solid

1130
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: starter in the league. You had a second you had

1131
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: him at the top, so you had a like twenty

1132
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: five you he's had a first round grade then on

1133
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: white hair and white round I did, okay, so I

1134
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: gets the edge for me. Yeah, I don't. I don't

1135
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: hate white hair, but I wish I had hair. But

1136
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: I I you have white hair, I have white hair.

1137
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: But I think, to me, I like the traits of

1138
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: this line elf line guy. I do. I wish I

1139
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: wish he did not. We could have seen him in

1140
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: Mobile and he didn't turn down his his invite, but

1141
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: unfortunately he did, so Combine will be big for him. Yep.

1142
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: Tally that up real quick. I want to say I

1143
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: think we took the new guy, or y'all took the

1144
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: new guy in five wow, five of eight twenty seventeen. Yeah,

1145
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: the younger player in five of the eight, you took,

1146
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: you took Ronnie Stanley. I think we kind of can

1147
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: consensus on Ogba more so than the other guy, Mike Williams.

1148
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: There was a split between White heron elf line. Yeah,

1149
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: elf Line unanimous for Mike Williams, unanimous for Lattimore. Yeah, Joku, Yeah,

1150
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: that's fund job. Hey. By the way, too, I know

1151
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: people ask us about the segment we have called tell

1152
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: me More. Yes, we're gonna do that after the combine,

1153
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 1: when we get there and we have a more idea,

1154
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean, yeah, obviously we got the

1155
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: combin we got three more shows and then we got

1156
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: the combay. But yeah, I think that I'd like to

1157
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: get there, no a little bit, maybe see some of

1158
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: these guys a little bit up close and personal, get

1159
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: the visit with them. By the time the combines over,

1160
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: I feel like we'll have heard all of the pertinent

1161
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: names there are to hear. I mean, for the most part. Yeah,

1162
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: the Dane Brugler special, like the guy from Montana Tech

1163
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: a and m but Brady Gustofs exactly. Oh, no, ask

1164
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: him about ask him about Peter Bateman from Minnesota Duluth.

1165
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: Peter Bateman, the main character from Office Space. Did you

1166
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: watch Peter Bateman from Minnesota Dluth yet? Of course the

1167
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: tight end. No, No, he's I have not seen him.

1168
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: I've seen him. Oh, he got him? Have you watched him?

1169
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: Who is he? He's he's a tackle. He's a tackle.

1170
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: That's mind. Why have you watched him? See? No? No,

1171
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: you know what I was doing. I was just curious.

1172
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: I was just trying to get a little bit more

1173
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: depth in my in my board, and I wanted to

1174
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 1: look at a guy and he's a fifth round tackle

1175
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: Minnesota Duluth, Peter Bateman. Yeah, you might hate him. He's

1176
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: a little at two hundred and ninety pound guy. You know,

1177
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: how are you exactly all right? Can't before we get

1178
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: out of here, I'm gonna put you on some I'm

1179
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: put pressure on you. We have one call. We have

1180
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: one call? All right, right, Versa, thank you so much.

1181
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: Everybody's doing great, San Antono. Who we got ahead? Go ahead,

1182
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 1: Mike quick question? Where does Jalen Smith go in this draft?

1183
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: If he never got injured, and I'll take your call.

1184
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Excellent question. Decorum. First of all, um, Yeah,

1185
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: that's that's exactly how its needs to be done. Just

1186
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: ask the question. We move on. I mean, if he's

1187
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: if he's completely healthy and he's in this draft, that's

1188
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: the quest. I mean, probably number two on my board, yeah, mine,

1189
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. I think I don't think he drops too far. Yeah,

1190
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: I think he I think he's he's top five. Yeah,

1191
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean I think you have to take him where

1192
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: you took Ezekiel Elliott. I really do. I don't think you.

1193
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you can. I don't think you could

1194
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: go any further past that. So, you know, the Cowboys,

1195
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: if this all works out, you know if if if,

1196
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: if the big if, if the big if work works out.

1197
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: But you gotta remember on their board too, he was there,

1198
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: number five, number five. Yeah, he was their fifth best player, Elliott.

1199
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: This way the board went Elliott Ramsey to soul Bosa Smith.

1200
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: That was her top. That was her five guys, with

1201
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: Miles Jack my guy, being number six. All right, that's

1202
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: all the time we have today for the draft show.

1203
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody out there for joining us.

1204
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: Appreciate everybody participating with Twitter on the twenty call everything

1205
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: that we do, Thank you so much. I want to

1206
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: thank Dame Burgler, David Hellman, Kick Garrison executive produce. I

1207
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: also want to thank ed Ka Hill for great in

1208
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: this show, Taylor Stern for pushing out all our content.

1209
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week eleven am from the SMBBC

1210
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios for the Draft Show. So you guys have

1211
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Speaker 1: a great week.