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Speaker 1: It was a missed opportunity in Houston. Welcome Bird Gang.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, Zach Ershman joins me, we look back

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Speaker 1: at Sunday's twenty one sixteen loss of the Texans. The

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Speaker 1: offense started well and then sputtered the defense. They got

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Speaker 1: off to a very slow start before pitching a shutout

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Speaker 1: in the second half. The turnaround was impressive bottom line,

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Speaker 1: though frustrating. To borrow the word used repeatedly by Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray postgame, It's Cardinals Cover two, episode seven oh one,

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Speaker 1: and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Buda Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 2: What rent?

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Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again,

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Speaker 3: so more Perry Magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Grilu.

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Speaker 1: By the way, seven hundred shows now seven oh one.

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Speaker 1: I skipped right over that late last week, so I

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Speaker 1: want to mention that as we begin this week's Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two, presented by Hyundai, pro partner of the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals didn't quite realize it until after the fact on

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Speaker 1: a football Friday, But here on Monday. Do want to

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Speaker 1: acknowledge everyone that has had a hand in this over

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Speaker 1: and then of course this is now what three of

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Speaker 1: the last four for you, Zach here on Cardinals cover two.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I want to give you some props. You're giving

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Speaker 3: everyone else some props. Craig Greeley, you've kind of been

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Speaker 3: the mastermind with cover two, so I got to give

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Speaker 3: shows is definitely no easy feat to come up with

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Speaker 1: To be fair, though I have missed a handful, maybe

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Speaker 3: I mean, still regardless, for everyone that's kind of put

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Speaker 3: to be a part of show seven hundred six ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: Not as cool though, to be talking about a loss

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Speaker 1: on Sunday at the Houston Texans twenty one to sixteen

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals now two and nine on the season, a

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Speaker 1: number of different directions. We can go here, Zach and

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Speaker 1: I think we'll cover it all. But first things first,

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Speaker 1: and that is Kyler Murray's second start, first on the road,

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Speaker 1: and we knew this was the next box to check.

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Speaker 1: Now it's okay, what did it look like? What was

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Speaker 1: And you had hoped that what we saw on Sunday,

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Speaker 3: See, I don't look at it like a step back.

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Speaker 3: It was the ability to throw the ball consistently. There

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Speaker 3: He's seen the Cardinals lose when he was playing, and

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Speaker 1: He used the word frustrating seven different times during his lime.

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Speaker 1: And look, I get it, and you're judged on wins

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of those things where you start off

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Speaker 1: No, Michael Wilson so know Zach Pascal. So that opened

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that Kyler, just just the fact that

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, Cardinals lose twenty one to sixteen at the Texans.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals trailed at halftime twenty one to ten, and

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Speaker 3: That's incredible football right there, and that's when you lose

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Speaker 3: it was quite incredible for that. But to go back

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Speaker 3: everyone talks about. It was great to see that. The

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Speaker 3: So while I agree you've got to go for touchdowns

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Speaker 1: Play that touchdown by Tank Dell. That was really the

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Speaker 1: that your defense is going to continuously stop CJ shrouding Company,

436
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Speaker 1: which they did and which we'll get to here in

437
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Speaker 1: a moment. But it goes back to that second fourth

438
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Speaker 1: and four at the Houston forty five, well out of

439
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Speaker 1: field goal range at that point in the game, but

440
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 1: a pass that was thrown behind Trey McBride again, the

441
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Speaker 1: decision to go for the play, call the play execution again,

442
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Speaker 1: to me, it seemed like a lack of execution. Now,

443
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Speaker 1: whether that's the quarterback or or the wide receiver that

444
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Speaker 1: what it looked like was a pass that was not

445
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Speaker 1: a good thrown pass behind McBride. Back Kyler Murray second

446
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Speaker 1: straight week. Now he is taking ownership on some of

447
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: these mistakes. Quote, it's on me bad feet, just a

448
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 1: missed throw throwing behind his tight end, and.

449
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Speaker 3: I'm glad that they could recognize that it is the

450
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 3: all details that you could fix, but it's the ones

451
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Speaker 3: that just continue to bite you. This is the second

452
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Speaker 3: week in a row where the connection has not been there,

453
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Speaker 3: and you can't assume that it's going to be there,

454
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Speaker 3: like like it's been week eleven, Like it's week two

455
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Speaker 3: for Kyler Murray. It's week two for this offense as

456
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Speaker 3: a whole. The defense played quite well for being week

457
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Speaker 3: eleven in the second half, but not in the first.

458
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Speaker 3: So it's just really shrinking together a total sixty minutes

459
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Speaker 3: of football. Complimentary football because they are going to say

460
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Speaker 3: it's the execution, the coaching staff, everyone that is supposed

461
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Speaker 3: to take accountability is going to take accountability. That's great,

462
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 3: as it should be. Now it's a matter of actually

463
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Speaker 3: taking what you put together in the film room and

464
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Speaker 3: the practice field and putting it onto the scoreboard.

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Speaker 1: You said something key there. It's game two for Kyler Murray,

466
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Speaker 1: and it's game two basically for this offense. With Kyler

467
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Speaker 1: Murray as your quarterback, this is week two, Yet everyone

468
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Speaker 1: else on that football field it's their week eleven. The

469
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Speaker 1: defense played very, very well, kept giving the offense an

470
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Speaker 1: opportunity to trim the lead or take the lead, and

471
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Speaker 1: let's touch on that offense because I'll go back to

472
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Speaker 1: that first half, and at that point, Jonathan Gannon is like, Okay,

473
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Speaker 1: we we have ten points, were trailing by eleven. We

474
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Speaker 1: cannot stop CJ. Stroud, much like the previous teams before him.

475
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Speaker 1: So what are we going to do as an offense. Well,

476
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Speaker 1: we're going to make sure we sustain drives. Didn't happen,

477
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Speaker 1: But what did happen was whether a decision or a

478
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Speaker 1: different play call defensively, because there was nothing that the

479
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Speaker 1: Texans did in quarters three and four, and c J.

480
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Speaker 1: Stroud did something he had never done before going back

481
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Speaker 1: to Ohio State. He had never had a three interception

482
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Speaker 1: game in his career. He had thrown two in the

483
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Speaker 1: first nine games of the season. Cardinals got him three

484
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Speaker 1: times on Sunday, but again the frustrating part, zero points

485
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Speaker 1: off those three take afs.

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Speaker 3: I liked CJ. Stroud's quote at the end of the game.

487
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Speaker 3: Somebody asked him about his confidence out to throwing the

488
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Speaker 3: three interceptions, and he said something along the lines of

489
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Speaker 3: like Steph Curry still shoots the ball, like after missing

490
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Speaker 3: a shot, So I'm gonna continue throwing the rock. And

491
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Speaker 3: a big part of it, why of what kind of

492
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Speaker 3: changed was the defense put a lot more pressure on CJ. Stroud.

493
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Speaker 3: They were able to get to him a lot more.

494
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Speaker 3: And that's what also happens when you go into the

495
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Speaker 3: red zone. Two of those three interceptions were in the

496
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Speaker 3: red zone. The field gets a lot smaller, the mistakes

497
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Speaker 3: get magnified a lot more. And because of that, c J. Stroud,

498
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Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback, does not have as much experience throwing

499
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Speaker 3: the ball in the red zone. So to have the

500
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Speaker 3: Cardinals defense playing the way that they did, Jalen Thompson

501
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Speaker 3: with a huge interception as did Chris Barnes in a

502
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Speaker 3: ball don't lie type moment. But I thought Jalen Thompson

503
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 3: had an incredible game for the fact that he came

504
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Speaker 3: in had that sack from the secondary, the first one

505
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Speaker 3: of his career. He sa has been a long time coming,

506
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Speaker 3: but untouched from the secondary and literally laying the boom

507
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Speaker 3: on CJ. Strowd, I think added some hesitancy to the

508
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Speaker 3: rookie quarterback in the ways that he has not had.

509
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Speaker 3: But as well as the defense did play, it does

510
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Speaker 3: not matter if your offense can't put together the points

511
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Speaker 3: on the scoreboard.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson a team best eight tackles, one tackle for loss,

513
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Speaker 1: one sack, one quarterback hit, one interception, one pass defense.

514
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Speaker 1: He basically filled up the stat sheet. And that interception

515
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Speaker 1: was a great read, stepping in front of the intended

516
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Speaker 1: receiver in the end zone and a takeaway inside the

517
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Speaker 1: red zone. The Chris Barnes won at the three yard

518
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Speaker 1: line through the hands of the receiver, but again you

519
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: got to make that catch. Receiver didn't, Barnes did. And

520
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Speaker 1: then to what you mentioned earlier, returning at forty nine

521
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Speaker 1: yards the other way to set up the offense almost

522
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Speaker 1: at midfield. I believe it was the Cardinals forty nine

523
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Speaker 1: but not being able to take advantage of that. And

524
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Speaker 1: then the Antonio Hamilton interception was just a brilliant play

525
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Speaker 1: by him going full extension, hurting himself in the process.

526
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 1: Scanning post games said he hurt is growing. We saw

527
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Speaker 1: him on television. Have to be carted back to the

528
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Speaker 1: locker room. Don't know the extent of the injury as

529
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Speaker 1: we speak here on this Monday, but three interceptions, three

530
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Speaker 1: takeaways by a defense that had zero takeaways the previous

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Speaker 1: three games. But it's that big zero that you have

532
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Speaker 1: as far as points off turnovers, Cardinals no points off

533
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Speaker 1: those turnovers. Even if they get six points two field goals,

534
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Cardinals are walking out of Energy

535
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Speaker 1: Stadium with a victory exactly.

536
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Speaker 3: And that's what's gonna haunt this team. And that's what's

537
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 3: hurt this team in a lot of previous games. I

538
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: mean for two to nine team. We've said this so

539
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: many different times. Craig uncovered two. The Cardinals don't play

540
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Speaker 3: like their record says, but it's they have one or

541
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Speaker 3: two things that hurt them in a game, and that's

542
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Speaker 3: ultimately what separates them from a win to a loss.

543
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Speaker 3: It's not that they're a bad football team.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: Josh Woods said post game, if you think we're a

546
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Speaker 3: bad football team, you don't watch football. I love that

547
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: quote because it's true. Kyler Murrays had the same thing

548
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 3: in his return press conference. He said, I've watched us.

549
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 3: We're not a bad football team. We just have to

550
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: make a couple more plays. In this case, you didn't

551
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: have to make a couple more plays. You just have

552
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Speaker 3: to score the ball a little bit more. It wasn't

553
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Speaker 3: a matter of making the plays because you did make

554
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 3: the plays, and your defense certainly made the plays. You

555
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: just got to be able to get into the end zone.

556
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Speaker 3: And that's something that's hurt the Cardinals in so many

557
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: different weeks has been not being able to turn those

558
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Speaker 3: midfield opportunities into points.

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Speaker 1: Defensive numbers. Don't want to hammer.

560
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: You over with the numbers stick, but bring it on.

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Speaker 1: First half CJ. Stroud eighteen of twenty four for two

562
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty nine yards, two touchdowns, the interception sacked once.

563
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: Second half nine of thirteen for seventy seven yards, two

564
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: interceptions sacked twice. Devin Singletary sixteen carries for eighty four

565
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Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown in the first half, six carries

566
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Speaker 1: for twenty eight yards in the second half. Tanked Dell.

567
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: First half six receptions for one hundred and twenty yards,

568
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Second half two receptions for twenty nine yards.

569
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Speaker 1: And you brought up the fact that the Texans in

570
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Speaker 1: the second half only had eighty six yards, they only

571
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: had four first downs. First half three hundred and thirty

572
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,479
Speaker 1: three total yards, eighteen first downs. I mean, you talk

573
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Speaker 1: about the tail that two has, or flipping the script,

574
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Speaker 1: however you want to describe it. Those numbers are incredible,

575
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Speaker 1: and it wasn't like the Texans took their foot off

576
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Speaker 1: the gas. It was a one possession game for a

577
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: lot of that second half, and the Texans still struggled

578
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: to move the football or even maintain possession of the football.

579
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the maintained possession part of it is I think

580
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: more important. In the second half. I wrote down the possessions,

581
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: it was missfield goal, punt, punt, interception, interception, end of the game.

582
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Speaker 3: And to have that sort of second half performance, you

583
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Speaker 3: even do half of that in the first half, it's

584
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: a completely different ballgame. The Cardinals, I'm not sure what

585
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: halftime adjustments were made besides I think bringing a little

586
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: bit more pressure to CJ. Stroud, but they made him

587
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: look like a rookie quarterback in that second half, something

588
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: that no other team in the NFL has been able

589
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Speaker 3: to do so far. CJ. Stroud is in the MVP

590
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: conversation for a reason. And while his stat line still

591
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: looks quite good after the game, and especially with the

592
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: three hundred plus yards he leads the NFL right now

593
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: in Week eleven for passing yards, he's really solid. There's

594
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: no way to sugarcoat it. But if you look at it,

595
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: it truly is a tail of two halts because the

596
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: Cardinals were able to bring a lot more pressure. I

597
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: know Johnathan Gannon has spoken about to the media. He

598
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: said that in a lot of cases on the defense

599
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: side of the ball, if you know that their play

600
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Speaker 3: was supposed to go for twenty thirty forty yards and

601
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 3: you stop him for ten, that's a win for you.

602
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: And I think in a lot of cases, in the

603
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: first half that's what they were trying to or the

604
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: second half that's what they were trying to do. In

605
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 3: the first half they were just getting blown out because

606
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: explosives were just continuing to hurt you. And the second

607
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: half they played a tighter coverage, they played a lot

608
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Speaker 3: more man, and they're able to make a lot more

609
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Speaker 3: happen because of it.

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Speaker 1: Both Drew Petsing and Nick Rollis can point to positives,

611
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: yet at the same time as coordinators, it's okay, what

612
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: do we need to do for that consistency, because that's

613
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: being when you don't have the talent compared to some

614
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: teams around the league, then you have to be consistent

615
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: in your play. The offense started well, then sputtered. The

616
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: defense didn't get off to a good start and then

617
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: pitched a shutout in the second half. Sixty minutes of football.

618
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: You can't play just two quarters and call it a day.

619
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Speaker 1: You need to maintain it for the duration of the game.

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Speaker 1: And what we saw on Sunday and Houston was the

621
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Speaker 1: offense doing okay in the first half, didn't live up

622
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Speaker 1: to their end in the second half, and vice versa.

623
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Speaker 1: Flip it for the defense between the first and second halfs.

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Speaker 3: And that's it's just a matter of stringing together a

625
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: full game. And it's incredible because the Cardinals in the

626
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: beginning half of the season, we're so good until the

627
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Speaker 3: fourth quarter. All in all three phases, they were so

628
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Speaker 3: good until the fourth quarter. And I believe by Game

629
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Speaker 3: five or Game six, it kind of started to spire

630
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: a little bit more downhill. Now they were able to

631
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Speaker 3: shrink together solid twenty solid thirty minutes on one side

632
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: of the ball and the solid thirty minutes on the

633
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: other side of the ball. But the lack of those

634
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: thirty minutes from either side really hurt you. And that's

635
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Speaker 3: why twenty one points is not a lot, but it's

636
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: a lot of points when you have more. When they

637
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: have more than you do.

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Speaker 1: Did you learn that at Penn State? I did.

639
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: That's how Penn State education right there.

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Speaker 1: All you need is one more point than your opponent

641
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: and you're good to go.

642
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: You know, Listen, we beat Rutgers this week.

643
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Speaker 2: That's all.

644
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Speaker 1: And I'm looking for a head coach at my alma manor,

645
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 1: so I got no way to uh come back or

646
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: say anything about that before we head out. Because this

647
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: is again, this is to use Kyler Murray's word frustrating.

648
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: That is the word of day here following Week eleven

649
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: and the loss in the Houston, Texas anything else before,

650
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Speaker 1: because we do have despite paulk obviously not being here

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Speaker 1: for a second straight Monday, we still have the Angry

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Speaker 1: Bird ord. We want to make sure that we continue

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Speaker 1: to deliver that because people have have, we've, we've they are,

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Speaker 1: they know that that is coming each and every week.

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Speaker 1: So we want to make sure we get that. But

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Speaker 1: anything else, I'm so glad, and I thought that I'm

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Speaker 1: not asking you for it.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm just so glad that we're not depriving the

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Speaker 3: people of the of the Angry Word Award. Like I

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Speaker 3: go into this, I'm ready to go with my notes

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Speaker 3: and I just think there's a spot missing. It's just

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Speaker 3: the angry birds pop up. I can never select it.

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Speaker 3: It's it's Paul, it's Paul.

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Speaker 1: We exchanged some texts earlier in the day. But before

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Speaker 1: we get to that, anything else that stood out to

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Speaker 1: you or the one big thing that has kind of

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Speaker 1: been a big question mark or just very curious, and

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Speaker 1: that is Hollywood Brown. Two games with Kyle the Murray

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Speaker 1: good friend, best friend, former college teammates, and two games

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Speaker 1: target nine times three catches.

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Speaker 3: You read in my mind because that's what he was

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Speaker 3: going to bring up, because I think that if Kyler

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Speaker 3: and Hollywood Brown did not have as good of a friendship,

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Speaker 3: I don't think this would be a big deal, truthfully,

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Speaker 3: but Hollywood Brown is a solid wide receiver. He's won

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Speaker 3: a lot of his routes. If Kyler Murray threw the

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Speaker 3: ball and did not underthrow him, he would have hit

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Speaker 3: how it would have Brown for a touchdown? Another long

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Speaker 3: deep pass he underthrew him last game against the Falcons.

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Speaker 3: He only had the twenty eight yards. This one also

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Speaker 3: not able to get much happening. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 3: it's a matter of teams covering him, because he's won

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Speaker 3: a lot of his coverages, but the connection seems to

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Speaker 3: be off there. Once again, it's game number two, and

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Speaker 3: it's very possible that the relationship that the two of

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Speaker 3: them have on the field just clicks. Because Kyler has

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Speaker 3: to work more on his relationships with the Trey mcbrides

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Speaker 3: and Elijah Higgins and the Rondell Mooores of the world.

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Speaker 3: The connection that he has with Hollywood Brown has been

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Speaker 3: a given for years. You just kind of got to

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Speaker 3: hope that Kawan doesn't only look at everybody else and

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Speaker 3: kind of ignore how Holly would build off the chemistry

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Speaker 3: that you already do have.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of chemistry, there was chemistry between Kyl and Greg Dortch,

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Speaker 1: who is, according to Paul the Angry Bird Award winner,

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Speaker 1: Greg Dortch, who played more snaps on Sunday forty six

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Speaker 1: than he had played in the previous nine games, combined

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Speaker 1: forty five offensive snaps to the first nine games of

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Speaker 1: the season, or should say, the first ten games of

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Speaker 1: the season. But Dertch setting season best in catches with

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Speaker 1: six receiving yards with seventy six. He was a team's

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Speaker 1: leading receiver and he was a favorite target of Kyler,

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Speaker 1: especially late there or this is a late third quarter,

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Speaker 1: early fourth quarter, there was a ten yard catch, a

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Speaker 1: seventeen yard catch. That drive unfortunately stalled when Dertch came

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Speaker 1: back for the football and fell one yard short of

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Speaker 1: extending a drive on fourth and three. But making the

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Speaker 1: most of the opportunities without Michael Wilson, know, Zach Pascal,

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Speaker 1: you get that tap on your shoulder and all right,

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Speaker 1: what are you going to do? Because it's something that

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Speaker 1: Georch has wanted to be more a part of, and

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Speaker 1: that is the offense. But you never know when it's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen for him. It happened on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: It seems like every single time Greg George gets an

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Speaker 3: opportunity on the offense side of the ball, when he

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Speaker 3: gets more than you know, five or six naps in

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Speaker 3: a game, he is delivered. That's dating back to the

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Speaker 3: previous couple seasons in the NFL that he's had. So far,

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Speaker 3: Greg Dortch has played a really solid football I think

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Speaker 3: I think his confidence was a little bit boosted after

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Speaker 3: the Falcons game when he had that bounce off punt

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Speaker 3: return where he was able to really bring the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: into a good range and the ultimately led to a

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Speaker 3: score because he has played well so far. He just

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Speaker 3: needs He's one of those players that is just waiting

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Speaker 3: for his opportunity in a wide receiver room that is

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Speaker 3: pretty full. It's just a matter of getting all those

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Speaker 3: targets on the same page with the quarterback. But they

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Speaker 3: have the skill set out there to do it. Might

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Speaker 3: not have the size, might not have all the skill

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Speaker 3: set in terms of if you're comparing it to all

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Speaker 3: the other teams that have star number one number two's,

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals still have a solid wide receiver corp out there.

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Speaker 3: Greg Dorch really made the most of his opportunity. It's

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Speaker 3: why he led the Cardinals and you got to hope

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Speaker 3: that that sort of chemistry continues to evolve with him

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Speaker 3: in K one.

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Speaker 1: Keep an eye on Michael Wilson's status for this game

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Speaker 1: this week against the Los Angeles Rams. Also, what's the

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Speaker 1: latest on Kaiser White? Like you vote to Antonio Hamilton

741
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: three big pieces to that defense on all three levels

742
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Speaker 1: defensive line, linebacker, and cornerback, but can't afford to lose

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Speaker 1: many more bodies. The Cardinals have already been hit hard defensively,

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Speaker 1: but those three names are huge pieces to what Nick

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Speaker 1: Rolis wants to do. But again, no one will feel bad.

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Speaker 1: It's that next man up mentality. You gotta find someone

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Speaker 1: else if those three should miss time or extended time.

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Speaker 3: And I thought a guy like Phil Hoskins really stepped

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Speaker 3: up coming in from the practice squad. He made a

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Speaker 3: handful of tackles out there, like you vote too. Before

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00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: he got hurt. He made a handful of tackles, had

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Speaker 3: to sack. So like the Cardinals have that next man mentality.

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Speaker 3: And truthfully, what I hope fans start to recognize, like

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Speaker 3: you'll look at the schedule and you'll look at the

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Speaker 3: record right now and you'll see and it's not necessarily

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Speaker 3: what you what you want to see. And you have

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Speaker 3: a gauntlet of a can full of games coming in.

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Speaker 3: You have the forty nine Ers, you have the Eagles,

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Speaker 3: you have a lot of different games. I mean, the

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00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: Steelers I know are reeling, but that AFC North has

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00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: been giving you a lot of problems so far this season.

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Speaker 3: This team truly is a bunch of believers, and I

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Speaker 3: know everybody has spoken about it because a guy like

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Speaker 3: Josh Woods has said we're not a bad football team.

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Speaker 3: A guy like Kaizer White says, what if we went out.

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Speaker 3: Then what PJ. Jalaris told Danny on sideline Exchange, we plan.

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Speaker 3: We hope to make the playoffs. Statistically, they're not out

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Speaker 3: of it. Granted it's a less than one percent chance,

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Speaker 3: but that doesn't phase them because they want to win

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Speaker 3: every single game and this two to nine record does

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Speaker 3: not deter them any slightest bits.

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Speaker 1: Very curious on how this team responds, specifically Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: from what happened on Sunday moving into this week's work

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Speaker 1: and then next Sunday when the Los Angeles Rams visit

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Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium. That game will kick off at two

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Speaker 1: oh five nine thirty. Pre game covers begins on the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Radio network, and yes, Zach Gershman will be

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Speaker 1: with us on a football Friday for episode seven to three.

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Speaker 1: You basically have dominated the early portion of the seven

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Speaker 1: hundred episodes of Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Cover two.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to solidifyd my name in the record books,

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Speaker 3: like you, Craig, that's all.

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Speaker 1: Well, so deep record.

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Speaker 3: I'll say that far.

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Speaker 1: Steep hill to climb too, so I wish you all

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Speaker 1: the luck in the world.

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Speaker 3: The climb continues, so Miley Cyrus says it's the climb.

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Speaker 3: Don't clip that. Don't clip that. Go ahead, Craig, I

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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can sing us off if you'd like to,

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Speaker 1: if you want to say any.

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Speaker 3: More, We're coming to cover too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now I am going to sign this off because

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Speaker 1: I was. I don't want to hear any more of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: on that bad notes singing notes of Zach Gershman. We

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Speaker 1: will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two presented by Hundai, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Mama Hundre,

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Speaker 1: our associate producer Cuddy Fincher for Zach Gerstman, Craig Real Lou,

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two