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Speaker 1: It's Friday. We know that NBA All Star voting is open.

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Speaker 8: And I've got exactly the same five, And I thought

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Speaker 8: I think I had him last year actually to make

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Speaker 8: So yeah, I have exactly the same five, and I

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Speaker 1: Thirty five points per game? It's nice. The numbers are impressive.

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Speaker 6: They stink. The only time you ever see Bradley Bial

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Speaker 6: is losing.

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Speaker 1: And he looks sad.

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Speaker 7: Get him out of here.

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Speaker 6: I got Trey Young replacing Bradley Beal. That's my only change.

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Speaker 6: Trey Young. His numbers aren't what Bradley Beal's are unless

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Speaker 1: What's ironic about that, though, is if Bal is selected,

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Speaker 1: I can never remember that. Beal making it if he

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Speaker 1: But sort of similar here with Bill. So you have

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that those four are locks.

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Speaker 5: To me.

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Speaker 6: In the Eastern Conference, you got to have a Celtic

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't disagree with where you guys are going.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: He's only played twelve games. Lee, you might hold that

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Speaker 1: impressing a lot of people at five hundred the Cavs

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Speaker 1: coaches task? Yep, he's a reserve. He's in there. He's

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's totally true.

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Speaker 4: Trey Young got in last year as a starter, right,

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Speaker 4: so it would be hard I think for coaches to

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Speaker 4: That's kind of the stance that coaches taken. That's why

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Speaker 4: I'm a little surprised that Tray Kirby is taking that stance.

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Speaker 4: Usually he's not a coach man. Usually he's an offense man.

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Speaker 7: He's trying.

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Speaker 4: Bradley Beal's putting up like nine more points a game

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Speaker 4: than Trey Young, So I thought you'd be in Bradley

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Speaker 6: I'm in his corner. He's an All Star, no doubt

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Speaker 6: about it, but he shouldn't be starting I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 6: he's leading the league in scoring, but it does not

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Speaker 6: matter at all. I mean, James Harden couldn't lead the

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Speaker 6: it's a I mean, beal, that's cool, man, Like, that's awesome.

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Speaker 6: I like to see the points.

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Speaker 6: I like to see the highlight, but every single highlight

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that's not his fault at all

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Speaker 4: to me. To me, that's not his fault. I mean

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Speaker 4: Trey Young is he hasn't had an overwhelmingly great season.

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Speaker 4: He's been good enough, but he you know, he hasn't

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Speaker 4: been great. He just he hasn't played up to his

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Speaker 4: I think Trey should be in the conversation.

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Speaker 7: But I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Bial The thing they got going for them is that

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Speaker 4: they haven't played a lot of games, which is kind

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Speaker 4: of dumb to say, because they've had so many guys

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Speaker 4: they are horrendous. They are very bad, and they've got

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Speaker 4: it's a it's it's the worst situation in the NBA,

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Speaker 4: I think in terms of, you know, the COVID situation

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Speaker 1: Something tells me Beale will get a lot of fan

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Speaker 1: he's top of mind, always go on for forty and

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Speaker 6: And they're over estimating how many Wizards fans there are.

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Speaker 6: I don't think Bradley Beal is like a beloved Heightens guy.

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Speaker 6: He hasn't even really been touching All Star starter status

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: So so you think it'd be more likely that Trey

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Speaker 1: still the Hawks are decent that he's more likely just

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Speaker 4: I think Bradley Beal had that interview last year with

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Speaker 4: I think somewhere like tenth amongst guards in All Star voting.

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Speaker 7: It was back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's way down there in terms of popularity. You know,

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Speaker 4: he's number one in le Allis's heart, there's no doubt,

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Speaker 7: Yet I'm around it.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like I keep seeing like Sports Center tweeting,

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Speaker 1: Bradley Bial Free Bradley Bill free blow. But yeah, that

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Speaker 8: The other thing is as well, he's not just putting

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Speaker 8: he's putting it up on just horrid percentages where no

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Speaker 8: it's just the Wizards themselves stuck.

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Speaker 1: So do you think Hardin and Kyrie sort of, you know,

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Speaker 8: Least, Yeah, I think it would be tough to have

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Speaker 8: I think with James Harden, I think it's fair to

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Speaker 8: I just think you have to discount out those first

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Speaker 5: But out of the two he and Kyrie, because Kyrie.

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Speaker 8: but I just feel they could both still get in

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Speaker 1: Well, the Bean Town Boys were crazy. I think if

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Speaker 1: I think Jaalen Brown has a really good chance to

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Speaker 1: If that happens, Zach Lavine, I would just love the

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Speaker 1: oh man, it would be very very easy. I think

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Speaker 6: Unless you're three and eleven, then you can be a starter.

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Speaker 6: I can't believe it. I can't believe that you guys

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Speaker 6: He was going to be my guy that I'm backing

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Speaker 6: night saying, get Zach Levine in the All Star Game.

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Speaker 6: He needs to be there. Twenty seven, five and five.

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Speaker 6: He's fifth in the league in scoring fifty forty eighty

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I definitely think Zach Levine is an All Star.

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Speaker 6: I don't have him as a starter. You're right. If

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Speaker 1: All right, So we mostly agree Embiid Yannis Katie as

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Speaker 1: you just sort of pitched there too, Trey. I want

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Speaker 1: you to dream big here, Lee I'll go to you first,

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Speaker 8: it's been more than just a sort of flash in

436
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Speaker 8: the pan here from Sex and he's been playing really

437
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Speaker 8: good basketball. And you know again that that record is

438
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Speaker 8: better than I think a lot of us expected to

439
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Speaker 8: have the Cleveland Cavaliers in at this point of the season.

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Speaker 8: I thought they were going to be way worse than

441
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Speaker 8: they are. But does he get in over someone like

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Speaker 8: Malcolm Brogden who's putting up nice numbers himself at twenty

443
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Speaker 8: three points a game on forty six percent shooting and

444
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Speaker 8: seven assists a game. But it's the Paces and the

445
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Speaker 8: Pacers are having a better season in terms of win

446
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Speaker 8: losses than the Cleveland Cavaliers. But because Brogden doesn't stand out,

447
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Speaker 8: doesn't have a lot of highlight plays, does that hurt

448
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Speaker 8: his case and help someone like a Sexton who has

449
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Speaker 8: been you know, the prettiest kid in school at the

450
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Speaker 8: moment this year because it's like, wow, I look at

451
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Speaker 8: the cars, it's a great story. They're great fun to

452
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Speaker 8: ok there from sax Land, you know, And so do

453
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Speaker 8: the coaches go, well, listen. I think Brogden is one

454
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Speaker 8: of those guys who's been overlooked probably the last season

455
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Speaker 8: or two, and he deserves to get in. Or do

456
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Speaker 8: we just go with someone who's like having a fun

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Speaker 8: season and catching a few more eyes in, someone like

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Speaker 8: Colin Sexton. So I think they're both deserving, but I

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Speaker 8: don't think they both get in because again you're going

460
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Speaker 8: to have someone like, you know, Zach Lavine, I think

461
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Speaker 8: is a pretty much a lock for an All Star

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Speaker 8: Berth at this point, I'd be shocked if he didn't

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Speaker 8: make it. And then you've got someone like Ben Simmons

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Speaker 8: as well. I mean Ben Simmons on his team, you

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Speaker 8: know he's going to be in consideration as well, even

466
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Speaker 8: though he doesn't have those huge numbers, but his team's very,

467
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Speaker 8: very successful and they're winning a lot. And then again

468
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Speaker 8: we've got the hardened Kyrie situation. So I think when

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Speaker 8: you break it all down, someone like a Sexton or

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Speaker 8: Malcolm Brogden is going to miss out. Though at this

471
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Speaker 8: point of the season where we sit today, I think

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Speaker 8: both are deserving. But I just wonder does Brogden being

473
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Speaker 8: on the paces hurt him because it's just kind of

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Speaker 8: overlooked and he's not a flashy player.

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Speaker 1: I think you can lock that in that you're right,

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Speaker 1: one of those guys, be at Brogden or Sexton, or

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Speaker 1: maybe even both are not ultimately selected. So yeah, that'll

478
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Speaker 1: hurt because they've both had really good years and surprised

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. In Sexton case. Okay, that's a

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Speaker 1: good one.

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Speaker 6: So the Eastern Conference, though, like Leah saying, Harden and

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Speaker 6: Kyrie will probably make the game spoiler alert, they're still

483
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Speaker 6: All Stars, even if the way that he James Harden

484
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Speaker 6: left Houston was distasteful. Kyrie Irving taking a couple of

485
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Speaker 6: weeks off distasteful. There's still going to be All Stars.

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Speaker 6: Like you guys are saying, Zach Lavine likely a Locke.

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Speaker 6: There's not a lot of guard spots left out there,

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Speaker 6: so I kind of think Sexton and Brogden might be

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Speaker 6: left in the cold because they both got big men

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Speaker 6: All Stars on their team as well. Boner, no doubt,

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Speaker 6: is an All Star you guys are talking about potentially

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Speaker 6: as a starter. I think you can lock him in,

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Speaker 6: and I think Andre Drummond is the guy that's going

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Speaker 6: to get in from the Cleveland Cavaliers. He's leading the

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Speaker 6: league in rebounding. He's been very entertaining. He had the

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Speaker 6: clip where he just stopped playing for a little bit,

497
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Speaker 6: held the ball there. He's been grabbing that big beef,

498
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Speaker 6: and he has been instrumental to the Cavs turnaround, cleaning

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Speaker 6: up on defense, running the court, making plays here and there.

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Speaker 6: I think that Boner and Drummond are both going to

501
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Speaker 6: definitely be making the All Star team, which makes it tough.

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Speaker 6: It makes it tough for to get two All Stars

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Speaker 6: from the Caves and the pacers. Once you start adding

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Speaker 6: things up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got All Stars, and you're really you're driving

506
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Speaker 4: home two nicknames this year. It's hard to drive home

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Speaker 4: two nicknames. Got Beef and Boner, I mean Boner, Beef,

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Speaker 4: Beef and Boner at this.

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Speaker 3: In the same breath.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough. One's gonna make the All Star

511
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Speaker 4: team for sure. I'll nickname all starts. One will be

512
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Speaker 4: appearing at All Start weekend, probably here in Atlanta that

513
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Speaker 4: they're seemingly gonna have, which is nuts.

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Speaker 1: I think it's more likely Boner's in over Beef. I'm

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Speaker 1: not convinced Drummond, despite the monster numbers, you made a

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Speaker 1: great case TK, but you know, I go through some

517
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Speaker 1: other bigs like bam Is Bam a Locke. I know

518
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Speaker 1: the Heat stink, but he was already an All Star.

519
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Speaker 1: That always helps with the coaches too. They sort of

520
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Speaker 1: like just to run it back. And it's not like

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Speaker 1: he's gotten worse. If anything, he looks even more impressive.

522
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Speaker 1: And maybe these numbers are not gonna wow you, but

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Speaker 1: he's a twenty what nine and six guy and he's

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Speaker 1: been there. Their only real rock there on the Heat

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Speaker 1: with Butler playing missing, so many games and then Tatum

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Speaker 1: like we said, that's a forward. Yeah, I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: I start, you start running out of spots, and then

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Speaker 1: I'll go to bat for my guy here who I

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Speaker 1: think will be in the mix, who I've compared before

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Speaker 1: already to Chris Middleton. It's Tobias Harris, who's having a

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Speaker 1: really incredible season. Now you brought up Ben Simmons. That's

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Speaker 1: interestingly because it's like, is Simmons even the second best

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Speaker 1: player on the Sixers right now? Or does Tobias Harris

534
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Speaker 1: deserve that? Now Simmons brings it out eventively, but that

535
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Speaker 1: defensive you know, they don't care about the that in

536
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Speaker 1: the All Star Game so much. But Tobias Harris twenty

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Speaker 1: seven and three, his shooting splits fifty two from the floor,

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Speaker 1: forty six from three to eighty two at the line,

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Speaker 1: and his numbers again compare him to Middleton really really close.

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Speaker 1: And if you're the best team in the East, are

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Speaker 1: you a lock to get two All Stars? In that case?

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Speaker 1: You know, we've seen it with the Bucks before, like

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Speaker 1: Middleton making it and deservedly so in my mind. With

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Speaker 1: Giannis over a couple of years, last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: so I think the case is being made for Tobias

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Speaker 1: Harris over Simmons and then over some of these other

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Speaker 1: bigs that were maybe thrown out there. If the Sixers

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Speaker 1: have the number one record in the East for sure,

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Speaker 1: for sure, what do you think, Lee?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, that's the thing.

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Speaker 8: I mean, sometimes a team can be a good team

552
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Speaker 8: and not have that clear cut number two option. And

553
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Speaker 8: that's the thing, like if you look at the imagine

554
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Speaker 8: they got three All Stars with a superior an inferior

555
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Speaker 8: record to the Sixers, and the Sixers only got one.

556
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Speaker 8: I mean, because that is also possible. Yeah, you know,

557
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Speaker 8: Ben Simmons may miss out from the guard spot because

558
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Speaker 8: he doesn't put up those huge numbers even though he's

559
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Speaker 8: got you know, he's averaging about eight rebounds, eight assists,

560
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Speaker 8: and you know, a dozen points a game. But he

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Speaker 8: he is their second best player, even if Harris is

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Speaker 8: you know, perhaps had a little bit of better of

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Speaker 8: a run here, and certainly he's been better under Doc

564
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Speaker 8: Rivers than he was under Brett Brown there Harris, So

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Speaker 8: it's one of those weird things. I mean, if Simmons

566
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Speaker 8: was nearly to be traded this season and then to

567
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Speaker 8: get overlooked for an All Star birth to one of

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Speaker 8: his teammates. I mean he would he'd probably not be

569
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Speaker 8: too happy with all that right now, even though we

570
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Speaker 8: wouldn't take it out on Tobias Harris, but he would

571
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Speaker 8: just feel pretty much slighted and snubbed. I think, so, yeah,

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Speaker 8: it's you know, drummer. Drummond is also another very very

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Speaker 8: interesting case because he is just putting up monster numbers

574
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Speaker 8: and he's been a two time All Star and he's

575
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Speaker 8: never done in back to back years.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like, you know, he has.

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Speaker 8: These huge numbers, that's All Star numbers you're in, but

578
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Speaker 8: then it's kind of like it doesn't really contribute to winning.

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Speaker 8: But this season it has been and he's been doing

580
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Speaker 8: so much more for his team. So, uh yeah, I

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Speaker 8: can't wait till we get into the reserves and the

582
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Speaker 8: nitty gritty because this season just feels different as well,

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Speaker 8: doesn't it. They just it just doesn't seem like it

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Speaker 8: has in the past. Like the Raptors today, I don't

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Speaker 8: think they get any old stuff.

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Speaker 1: They get they get nobody for sure.

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Speaker 8: But by the time we make the reserve selections, if

588
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Speaker 8: they go on a bit of a run, I mean

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Speaker 8: it might be Fred van.

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Speaker 6: Vleet, I mean joby, Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe we went twenty five minutes to start

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Speaker 4: this podcast without talking about I don't.

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Speaker 1: Think I don't think they get anybody lee even with

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Speaker 1: a run. I don't I'm gonna Beckham. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's lowry anymore of vi in Vleet. I could hear

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Speaker 1: your case for him? Oh gee, maybe does he have

597
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Speaker 1: the best case of the four of them. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: not happening. They don't deserve one either.

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Speaker 7: Really no, no, they're not getting one. Let's not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but if you're taking Drummond on pure like

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Speaker 1: massive numbers on a five hundred team, great, what about Vucevic?

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Speaker 5: God man, I'm being.

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Speaker 1: Serious here though. If you're like goo to make a

604
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Speaker 1: case for eighty, you can make the exact same case

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Speaker 1: for Vooch, who's been an All Star, who's putting up

606
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Speaker 1: even better numbers than he ever has twenty four, eleven

607
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Speaker 1: and four on really good shooting numbers, two fifty, forty

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Speaker 1: four and eighty two the splits, you know, a pr

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Speaker 1: of twenty five that's one of the tops in the league,

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Speaker 1: like the Magic Are you know a five hundred is

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Speaker 1: team eight and eleven, Well, five hundred ish team.

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Speaker 6: You cannot bring up a record if you're putting Bradley

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Speaker 6: Beal in your starters, do not care what any other

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Speaker 6: team's record is, right starting a guy that's three and eleven.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just saying I think Vooch is right there

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Speaker 1: with Adn't. I don't know what do you think tests I.

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Speaker 4: Think the guy who gets the sort of snowball effect

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Speaker 4: from the last couple of seasons. Because the Milwaukee Bucks

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Speaker 4: are still good as Chris Middleton, I think he's still

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Speaker 4: gonna make it. His numbers are better this year and

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Speaker 4: they're still in the second seed, even though we kind

622
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Speaker 4: of overlooked them. They've got a great point differential. I

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Speaker 4: think he'll get in over any second sixer, over Ben

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Speaker 4: Simmons or Tobias Harris. I think he would get there.

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Speaker 4: And I think they are gonna the coaches are gonna

626
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Speaker 4: look at bam Adebayo real hard and heavy over somebody

627
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Speaker 4: like Andre Drummond because BAM's numbers are real good compared

628
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Speaker 4: to last year. He's up like four plus points per game,

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Speaker 4: his percentages are up, He's having a career year and

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Speaker 4: he had. He doesn't have Jimmy Butler's weight hanging him hanging,

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Speaker 4: you know, bringing him down. Because Jimmy Butler isn't making

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Speaker 4: the All Star team. He's been out three weeks almost here.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of weeks in this shortened season. So

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Speaker 4: I think the yeah, that what will come down to

635
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Speaker 4: is probably like a Bam Drummond for me, And I

636
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Speaker 4: think BAM's you know, he's just.

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Speaker 7: He's a number one.

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Speaker 4: He's a better player. I guess that's why he probably

639
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Speaker 4: gets in. But yet, you know, other coaches have to

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Speaker 4: game plan for him, and Colin Sexton maybe takes away

641
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Speaker 4: a little shine from Andre Drummond while the Heat don't

642
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Speaker 4: have another guy to take away Bam shines. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I know, Chris, I know, Chris Middleton isn't the sexy name,

644
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Speaker 4: but man, the guy keeps doing it and he lacka man. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: everybody talks about him on every broadcast. He is doing

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Speaker 4: this fifty forty ninety. But yeah, when when the boxer check,

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Speaker 4: when fans are voting, they probably don't vote Chris Middleton.

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Speaker 4: It's like a Bradley Beale situation. Not real high on

649
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: the ballots, but coaches respect that man, and he's become

650
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 4: more of a number one scorer on the Milwaukee Bucks team,

651
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 4: even though he doesn't lead the team in scoring, not

652
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 4: even close to Jannest, but is their ball handler at

653
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 4: the end of the games a lot of the time.

654
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Speaker 1: All right, let's move over to the West, Trey, we're

655
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: gonna give you this one, your five All Star Western

656
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: Conference starters A getting two guards, three forwards. Where you're going,

657
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: big guy, let me do this task Melis style.

658
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 6: I'll tell you I hadn't thought of it this way,

659
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 6: but I like it. Mellis style. Right here, I'll tell

660
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 6: you as I thought of them. Who should be the

661
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 6: All Stars? Number one, Lebron James. I think he's gonna

662
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 6: make it this year. I got him as a starter.

663
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 6: I think he'll do all right in the fan though

664
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Speaker 6: he's one of my forwards. Number two that I thought about,

665
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 6: perhaps controversial. Steph Curry, Okay, I just want him in there.

666
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 6: I mean, he's obviously not having an MVP season. The

667
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 6: Warriors haven't been great. They've had some ups and some downs,

668
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 6: but come on, Steph Curry still an All Star for me.

669
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Speaker 6: Then I got Kawhi Leonard as my third guy. I

670
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Speaker 6: thought about fifty forty ninety. He is at twenty five

671
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 6: points per game. The Clippers are balling. Sorry, we talked

672
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 6: about OG before we got to the Clippers, but we

673
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 6: had to do the Eastern Conference then the Western Conference.

674
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Speaker 6: Nikola Jokic is my biggest of big men also starting.

675
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Speaker 6: He's an MVP candidate and the last guard. I was

676
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 6: working hard to keep him out. If I'm being completely

677
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 6: honest here, I could have gone for Damian Lillard, I

678
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 6: could have gone for Donovan Mitchell, but the Donk Man,

679
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 6: the guy's at basically a triple double right now. He's

680
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 6: been playing MVP basketball since the second week of the season.

681
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 6: The Mavericks have just been kind of decimated by health

682
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 6: and safety protocols. They're not making shots, but don Chech

683
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 6: is still performing out there. So that's my five steph Luka, Kawhi, Lebron,

684
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Speaker 6: and Nikola Jokic.

685
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Speaker 1: Those are the exact five guys I ultimately decided on too,

686
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: And like you said, I was the exact same way

687
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Speaker 1: with Luca, just because I was like, Ah, is there

688
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: anyone else that's deserving of that other guard spot? And

689
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: I was like, no, there's not there really isn't. And

690
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: it's funny with Curry, I think you could throw Lebron

691
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: in there, and Yo honis in the East. These guys

692
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: are all having like down years for them really, you know, statistically,

693
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: but they're still like all NBA incredible seasons and it's

694
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: like there's still no brainers for starting an All Star Game,

695
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: like the three of those guys, these are not. It's

696
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: amazing to me when you look at the numbers that

697
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Speaker 1: all three of them have right now, and it's like

698
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: a again, it's like a bad year for them over

699
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Speaker 1: their last couple. It's just sort of like mind blowing.

700
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: But I got them in there too. Leally, is there

701
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Speaker 1: anyone else you want to make a case for it

702
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: to be starting in the West, Well.

703
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Speaker 8: I want to make a case for Donovan Mitchell because

704
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 8: his team is doing so well, but I don't think

705
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Speaker 8: he's had a better season than Steph Curry or don

706
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 8: chicch in terms of pure you know numbers there. But

707
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 8: I just think the Jazz playing obviously the best basketball

708
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 8: right now, and in fact, they've got themselves to the

709
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 8: top of the Western Conference with the Lakers having dropped

710
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 8: a couple of games there lately, so the Jazz having

711
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 8: won ten straight fourteen and four, you know, great defense.

712
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 8: Mitchell obviously missed their last game, but prior to that,

713
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 8: I mean he's balling. But his numbers, again, they're sort

714
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Speaker 8: of middle of the road numbers, you know, in terms

715
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Speaker 8: of in terms of when you're compared, like like he's

716
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Speaker 8: only averaging twenty three point four points a game, five assists,

717
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 8: and four and a half rebounds. So it's not like

718
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 8: he's out there just torching teams by himself. But that's

719
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Speaker 8: the Jazz Is way, isn't it. You know, they have

720
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Speaker 8: team players, you know, Rudy Gobert. I think Mitchell and

721
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 8: Gobert ultimately both make the team, but trying to get

722
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 8: them into the starting lineup stuff. Jokic absolutely deserves to

723
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Speaker 8: be in there. Of course, Lebron is as well, so

724
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Speaker 8: Kawhi and the Clippers. I mean, they've been a little

725
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 8: bit off the radar lately because they haven't been playing,

726
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 8: and Paul George is also having a very good season,

727
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Speaker 8: So I think I think George and Kawhi make it.

728
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Speaker 8: I think Kawhi probably gets that starting not but you

729
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 8: could probably make a case for Paul George is her

730
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Speaker 8: guard is he a fourd who knows he's.

731
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Speaker 2: A four.

732
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Speaker 3: Unfortunately?

733
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a forward. I was trying to game the

734
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 6: system last night. I was trying to move Kawhi Leonard

735
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 6: up to my second guard there with Steph Curry so

736
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Speaker 6: I could get go Bear and Jokic in the starting lineup.

737
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 6: We've been going too long without these big guys. Now

738
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 6: we're thrown out two huge guys in the starting lineup.

739
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 6: No more Lebron jumping center. We want the giants, but

740
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 6: you'll get you at the point guard spot. There you

741
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 6: go the guard.

742
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's interesting, like of the five that Trey

743
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: you know through out there to start, and I agree

744
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: with Yeah, Paul George is a is a big omission

745
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: because he's played incredible basketball so far. But it's tough

746
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: with Kawhi there and then Anthony Davis tests right, I

747
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: mean it's a It's like, I'm not saying he should

748
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 1: be in these five starting I think he'll be an

749
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: All Star, but like, that's pretty wild that he's that

750
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: he's not in the mix. He's having a bit of

751
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: a down year all things considered for him. Is that

752
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: fair to say?

753
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's headed himself. He said you know, he told

754
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: Chris Webber in a long diatribe last week when he

755
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: got the mic, and Chris Webbers said, how do you

756
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 4: feel going into this year? And he just he just

757
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 4: talked and talked and talked like he was in the

758
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: chair like I'm just just don't have my flow. It

759
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: can't find it. And so it's okay not to be

760
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 4: as good as Jokic, Lebron and Kawhi to start this season.

761
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 4: Those guys are phenomenal. The guard spots are where I

762
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 4: differ a little bit, as Steph Curry I got in there.

763
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 4: I guess the guard spot is where I differ. I

764
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: would take Dame over Doncic at this point. Dacic's numbers

765
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: solid as always, but he told us he wasn't in

766
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 4: great shape and his three point percentage shows that shooting

767
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 4: it it's bad. Yeah, he's just and he had to

768
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 4: sit a little bit. Dame's numbers are phenomenal, shooting on

769
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 4: good percentages, and so I would still take him scoring

770
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: more than Luca. You know, if Dallas had some better

771
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 4: players around Luca, his record could be better. That would

772
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: help out. Same with Dame in a crazy way, although

773
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 4: they're you know a little bit about five hundred, a

774
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 4: bit better than the MAVs. I think Dame's been there

775
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 4: night in and night out, and so I would take

776
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 4: him over Luca, who Yeah, he's freaking phenomenal. But I've

777
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 4: got standards in the in the Eastern Conference. James Harden,

778
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 4: you come into camp fat. You can be a reserve,

779
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 4: but you can't be a starter. Luca, you come into

780
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 4: camp just a little bit Chubb. You can't be a starter.

781
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 4: You can be a reserve. Nothing wrong with that.

782
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 6: Man.

783
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 4: You're coming off the bench this year, and that'll teach

784
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 4: you to come into camp healthy.

785
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: I think it's there for the taking for that spot,

786
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: that second spot. In terms of the fans for Luca

787
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: or Dame, Like if one of them just goes on

788
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: a monster monster run here and their team gets some victories,

789
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: I think like that's up in the air. That one

790
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: is tough. You know, people love Dame. Of course Luca

791
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: gets the votes too. There's a huge you know, swelling

792
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: and support for him too. But it's it's there. I

793
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: think Curry, you can sort of lock in again despite

794
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: having sort of a weird down year. It's not it's not.

795
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't play last year. Because he was injured,

796
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: but the year before that and the year prior to that,

797
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: but yeah, we will see. All right, let's get to

798
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: the final question here and I'll get it started. Is

799
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: it's the same thing as we did in the East.

800
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: Underrated West player that deserves some consideration. Do you have

801
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: any idea where I'm going to go with this one?

802
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta start doing it. I got I

803
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: gotta strum up the support, even if it doesn't pay

804
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: off for this year. I gotta start thinking ahead for

805
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: next year with that bet that Tray and I have.

806
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: It's Shay Gildess Alexander, who Look, if I'm being honest,

807
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for him to actually make the team,

808
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 1: but he's deserving. He is really putting up incredible numbers

809
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: on a team that surprised a lot of people. Twenty

810
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: two and a half points per game, five and a

811
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: half boards, six and a half assists, fifty percent from

812
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: the floor, thirty eight from three great and okay, see

813
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: is I still I think they're eight and nine right now?

814
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: Now?

815
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: They're currently tied for tenth, a little too low. If

816
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: the Thunder could go on a run right now, that'd

817
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: be great timing to help his chances, you know, get

818
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: up to fifth or six. But I was thinking about it.

819
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: It's not that far fetched actually that he could could

820
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: make it this year. Gonna be difficult. Here's what I mean. Curry,

821
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: Luca and Dame Locks. That's three guards that are in

822
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: Whether you're starting Curry and Luka or you're starting Kurran Dame,

823
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The three of them are in there. How

824
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: many guards are gonna be on the team? Five or six?

825
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 7: Right?

826
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: You gotta hope six if SGA's gonna get in there,

827
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: because then you go, all right, Harden's in the East. Good,

828
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: he's out of here, Westbrook, don't worry about him. Means

829
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: he's the East. He's not gonna make it anyway. Klay Thompson,

830
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: of course, is injured all year, and then CJ McCollum

831
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: getting injured is that's a bummer of course for him.

832
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: I think he would have been a no brainer to

833
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: make this team for the first time. He's gonna missed

834
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: a lot of games because he's out like four weeks

835
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: right at minimum, So he's probably out now again, unfortunately,

836
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: but that opens up a spot maybe for an SGA.

837
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: So who's he battling Donovan Mitchell. You guys said who

838
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: you could make the case for starting, and then it's

839
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: like Jamal Murray he hasn't had that great a year.

840
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: Demart rosen AD's Derozen like year, but he always gets overlooked.

841
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 1: John Morant, No, he played like five games. Devin Booker guy,

842
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: obviously I love too. He's good. He has not wowed

843
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people. I would say this year. This

844
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: is not Bubble Booker twenty three points per game. But

845
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: the Suns have like come back to earth a little bit.

846
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: You ain't getting any guards from the Pelicans or the Wolves,

847
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: and then the Rockets are interesting with Wall and Oladipo.

848
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: So I guess I'm saying all of that to say,

849
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: like there's maybe that one spot if the thunder or

850
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: like you know, plus five hundred, the SGA could maybe

851
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: do it, maybe maybe do it. But then you got

852
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: the coaches having to select a young young guy like

853
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: him over a guy that's already made it in a

854
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: Booker or maybe even in Ola depot or something like that.

855
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: So I'll go to bat for him, and I just did.

856
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: But uh, I think that BET's gonna carry over. Traded

857
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: next season.

858
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 6: And it ain't happen in this year.

859
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: That's why it's gonna get really interesting next year.

860
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 6: Get in line, SGA, Mike Conley I think would be

861
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 6: chosen like ahead of SGA as well. And yeah, like

862
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 6: you're you're counting down all the guards and the numbers

863
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 6: and stuff, but on the bench it doesn't matter. Paul

864
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 6: George can be a guard and a forward then, so

865
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 6: he might be taking that kind of spot as well.

866
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 6: It's just tough out there. It's tough.

867
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: Great point.

868
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 6: I'm not committed to who I'm standing for yet Skeets,

869
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 6: but there's a chance it's gonna be Zion Williamson. I

870
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 6: don't know if he's really an All Star. I don't know,

871
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 6: but he's the best paint scorer since Shack and I

872
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 6: love it. It looks like you're watching the new Charles

873
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 6: Barkley out there, the way he slices in between guys

874
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 6: finishes at the rim. Obviously he's not playing defense and

875
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 6: the Pelicans aren't winning, but there was a Pelican All

876
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 6: Star last year. Perhaps they're able to snag another one

877
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 6: this year. I don't know if it would be Zion

878
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 6: over brandon Ingram, but I'm preparing myself to be making

879
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 6: Zion Williamson cases come February in March.

880
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: Okay, what about U, task, who are you going to

881
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: bat for?

882
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I want to be in your corner

883
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 4: there skeets. I want to get in the Canadians corner.

884
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 4: I think what the photoshop boys have got to do

885
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 4: is they gotta gotta make us a video. You gotta

886
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: we gotta develop. You know, Trey's been doing a little

887
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 4: video work. I think if you can get SGA's initials

888
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 4: on a screen and then you know, you do a

889
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 4: little whirldly twirly effect and all of a sudden asg

890
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 4: materializes SJA All Star.

891
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: Whoa pretty good?

892
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, coaches, get behind that tick tick boom.

893
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 4: He's been great. But yeah, I it's it's weird.

894
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 6: You know.

895
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 4: I'm a huge Ion Williamson fan. Not because he's on

896
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 4: my fantasy team, not because Luca's on my fantasy tea.

897
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 4: I'm just I just love watching Zion. But can you

898
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 4: bring Zion and Brandon Ingram? I know, but you know

899
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 4: it's like Brandon Ingram is the best player on that team.

900
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 4: Zion is probably getting the most hype on that team.

901
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 4: But Uh, it's yeah, you get one if you're on

902
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 4: the bench. The West is just tough, you know. The

903
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: the Jazz, I think can only get.

904
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 7: It's crazy, it's crazy.

905
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we finish your thought. Were you gonna say they

906
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: only get one?

907
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 5: Now?

908
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 7: Go bar?

909
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: Last year didn't they?

910
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 4: I know, but I'm thinking about yeah, I'm thinking about Yeah.

911
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 4: It's hard to have two reserves from the same team though,

912
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 4: you know, unless you're a top, top team, it just

913
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 4: doesn't happen a lot. And so h yeah, those two

914
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 4: will get there. That's why Mike con League is highly

915
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 4: unlikely to make it, even though he might win the Defensive.

916
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 7: Player of the Year.

917
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's and they're and they've snuck into the

918
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 4: one seed now with the Lakers dropping down, so they

919
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 4: should they should get two.

920
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: With a bullet lee, what do you think?

921
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 8: Well, Conley again, he is playing really good basketball considering

922
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 8: last season. It took him some time to really figure

923
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 8: out his way there at Utah, but he has been

924
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 8: great for them. But it is very difficult to see

925
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 8: the Jazz getting three. They're absolute luck forgetting the two

926
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 8: if they continue playing the way they have lately. But yeah,

927
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 8: to get that third one in I'm just not prepared

928
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 8: to take or dismiss c J McCollums chances just yet.

929
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 8: I know he is out a month, he's been out

930
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 8: for about a week already. If he was to come

931
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 8: back a little bit early, then he's still got plenty

932
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 8: of time to make it, because his actual numbers are

933
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 8: incredible this season. I mean, he's having a career high

934
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 8: season at twenty seven points a game on forty percent

935
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 8: shooting and forty four percent on threes, five assists, four rebounds.

936
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 5: He's been awesome, and he's kind of like Mike Conley.

937
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 8: He's kind of been, you know, on the periphery for

938
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 8: a couple of seasons, but you haven't been able to

939
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 8: make a strong case.

940
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: This year.

941
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 8: It's like he has got a very strong case individually

942
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 8: in terms of his numbers. So I think there's still time.

943
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 8: He's played thirteen games to this point. You know, if

944
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 8: he was to come back and a little bit early

945
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 8: then and pick up exactly where he left off, then

946
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 8: I think he does give himself a strong case. Of course,

947
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 8: then you've got do two blazers deserve it if their numbers,

948
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 8: if their win losses are are low, and again probably

949
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 8: not you're probably only getting one out of here and

950
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 8: Damian Lillard. But maybe if Lillard was to get himself

951
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 8: as a starter, then it certainly makes it a little

952
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 8: bit easier for CJ there to make it as a reserve.

953
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 8: So I think he's deserving, and more so over him

954
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 8: than over a shake Gilder Alexander in terms of just

955
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 8: the season they've had to this point. But it really

956
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 8: just depends on how many games and how long CJ

957
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 8: is out, because if he's out too long, then he's

958
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 8: just out of the he's out of the conversation. But

959
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 8: if he can come back early, I think he's still

960
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 8: got time.

961
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: All Right, let's hear from you guys out there, who

962
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: are your ten All Stars that should be starting in

963
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: the game as of January twenty ninths here. You know

964
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: it's early, but that's what we gotta start doing. You

965
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: gotta start filling out your ballots and the you got

966
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: those double days coming up, the double vote days where

967
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: your vote counts twice, so those are important. Who will

968
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: hit those? Will it be the Tray young fans with

969
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: the Bradley Beal fans really taking advantage of those double

970
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: down points days. We'll find out, but let us know

971
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 1: in the comments who your ten All Star starters are.

972
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 7: It's a quarter.

973
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 4: A quarter of the season is done for some teams.

974
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 4: It's not super early, right, it feels like usually we're

975
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 4: talking about it even earlier.

976
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, we are.

977
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: I think actually I think I checked last night. I

978
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: went through our old notes to figure out when we

979
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: started doing this, and I think it almost was the

980
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: exact time. Well but hold on, that's what we would

981
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: have started the season.

982
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: A lotolgically, undoubtedly.

983
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it is strange. It feels like, well,

984
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: it's also weird because we don't even know if we're

985
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: having an ul Star game. If you're impossible, there still

986
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: is no game, So it's like like sort of I

987
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: guess almost like why wait at that point?

988
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 6: But we'll just be an All Star happy hour. They'll

989
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 6: all get on a zoom together, live stream it on YouTube,

990
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 6: and just have some laughs with their buddies.

991
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: Of all the All Stars we named, which one is

992
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: most likely to suffer from trapped wind.

993
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 6: Oh, that's a tough question. Who Lebron? Honestly, you know,

994
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 6: like he's an older guy, so I imagine he has

995
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 6: the class and the tack to keep him in just

996
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 6: kingly farts.

997
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 5: Answer, Lee, my guess soul.

998
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: Oh boy, well we didn't mention it as an at

999
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: the Star, but okay, fair enough, good, good, good good, Okay,

1000
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: So let's hear your ted storters as of today. Okay, quickly,

1001
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: last night, four games on, I'm gonna fly through the

1002
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 1: games and then Trey, you can give us a takeaway

1003
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: from wherever you want to go. Oladipo had twenty five

1004
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: points as the Rockets beat the Blazers one O four

1005
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: one on one. Sons snapped a three game skid. They

1006
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: needed this one. They rolled over the Warriors one fourteen

1007
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: ninety three, Clippers rally Trey from eighteen down to top

1008
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: to heat. Another rough loss from Miami. Clippers win one

1009
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: O nine to one five without Kawhi and PG again

1010
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: and then the Lakers without ad Lebron played, but no

1011
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. They fell to the Pistons one oh seven

1012
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: ninety two. Nice win there for Casey and the Detroit Pistons.

1013
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: So again there's the four games where you want to go.

1014
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: What was your big takeaway from last night?

1015
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 6: All our featured game of course, skeets. I don't know

1016
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 6: about you, guys, but I was paying great attention to Rockets.

1017
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 6: Blazers definitely remember what happened. But the Wow Era, it's

1018
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 6: off to a great start for the Rockets, the first

1019
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 6: time that Victor Oladipo wait, I should probably say it

1020
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 6: in letters order, Wall, Oladipo, and Wood they all started

1021
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 6: together the wow Era, and they all actually played pretty well.

1022
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 6: Twenty five for Victor Oladipo, twenty two and twelve for

1023
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 6: Christian Wood, and twenty points and six assists for John Wall.

1024
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 6: They look good. They've been the best defense in the league,

1025
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 6: as you saw going around on Twitter last night, since

1026
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 6: the James Harden trade. Their play hard. They've got a

1027
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 6: bunch of guys with chips on their shoulders. But that

1028
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 6: kind of got people angry last night. Pacers fans in particular.

1029
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 6: After the game, Victor Oladipo was interviewed. He says, going

1030
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 6: through my career, it just feels like people keep kind

1031
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 6: of quitting on me. But it's a part of life

1032
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 6: and I embrace it. Obviously he's using the way the

1033
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 6: things ended with the Pacers as motivation fair enough, but

1034
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,959
Speaker 6: also allegedly he turned down a twenty five million dollar

1035
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 6: extension to stay in Indiana, So who quit on who here?

1036
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 6: I just think it's a very weird way to approach it.

1037
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 6: So basically, go out there and diss your fans, to

1038
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 6: dis the fan base that was there in Indiana that

1039
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 6: has been supporting you since college. I didn't love that.

1040
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 6: I didn't love that from Victor Oladipo. He's a great player,

1041
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 6: he seems to be on his way back. He's playing

1042
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 6: for a big deal come summertime. But very strange, very

1043
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 6: Paul Georgie to me and Victor Oladipo. He's not even

1044
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 6: on Paul George's level, which I mean, I've had my

1045
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 6: concerns with Paul George's level, but I don't know. I

1046
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 6: just did not like this from Victor Oladipo, the way

1047
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 6: he's making it seem like the Pacers were the ones

1048
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 6: who gave up on him, when it really felt like

1049
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 6: the Pacers were doing everything they could to build around

1050
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 6: Victor Oladipa only to see Demonta Sabonis explode as a star.

1051
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 6: I don't know if that angered Victor Oladipo, that the

1052
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 6: team kind of centered itself around Sabonis, but it didn't

1053
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 6: end well in Indiana, and he's running in their faces.

1054
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a little weird lely, especially like poor

1055
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: Pacers fans, like they've sort of gone through this before.

1056
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: As Trey said, with Paul George, it's like they love them,

1057
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: they love them, they want them around. He's our star guy.

1058
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: He leaves and then he sort of turns around and goes,

1059
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, like, did they really want me there? They

1060
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: didn't love It's like the Pacers was like, what, yes,

1061
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: we did we we really really wanted you here and

1062
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: we loved you. So I could see why with Oladipo

1063
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: saying this last night at the end of the game

1064
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: on the broadcast, that they would be a little upset. Though,

1065
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's just one of those classic sort

1066
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: of like athlete cliche throwaway lines of like I've been

1067
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: doubted in my whole life, you know, like they just

1068
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: you know that type of thing. It's possible, too.

1069
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: Right, I mean it is.

1070
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 4: He didn't play for the Magic, he didn't play for

1071
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 4: the Thunder before that. He could be talking about those

1072
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 4: situations too. Rights csarily just talking about the Piecers.

1073
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: No, he's saying every step of the way, it sounds like,

1074
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: so he's including the piecers. Yeah, Yeah, so Piecers fans

1075
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: are saying, don't include us.

1076
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's the biggest step honestly, right, Like that's

1077
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 6: when Victor Oladipa really established himself.

1078
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, And the fact that they did reportedly offer him

1079
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 8: that extension shows that, like, hey, we did think you

1080
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 8: were a part of this future.

1081
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 5: So you know, it's weird.

1082
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 8: He had an All Star, he became an All Star

1083
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 8: there and in Indiana, I think unquestionably he was their

1084
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 8: sort of franchise player before he got injured, and they

1085
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 8: wanted to keep him. So it does seem a little

1086
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 8: bit off that he's taking shots at them and the

1087
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 8: team when all they really did from certainly from the

1088
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 8: outside from what we could see, from what I could see,

1089
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 8: they supported him and tried to tried to get the

1090
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 8: best out of him, and injuries sort of slowed him down,

1091
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 8: and then they just thought, all right, he's not a

1092
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 8: part of the team. He doesn't want to be here,

1093
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 8: so we'll trade him again.

1094
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: Was that actually all a depot taking a shot?

1095
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1096
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I think where we're maybe reaching a little

1097
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: bit our Piecers fans being a little sensitive about what

1098
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: he said. Again after a game last night, after having

1099
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: a good game in a victory on a national televised game.

1100
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, with the as Tree said, like with this

1101
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: first like real full squad there in Houston, Houston Rockets,

1102
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: We're tim Yeah, it's going to be good, like right

1103
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: with this squad, I don't know, I'm not sure.

1104
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 8: But John Wall sort of said the same thing about

1105
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 8: the Wizards. He said, you know, I wanted to be

1106
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 8: somewhere I was wanted, and they gave him that massive

1107
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 8: extension as well, you know, and basically just traded him

1108
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 8: at the end. It was like, all right, sure, we'll

1109
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 8: trade you. He asked to be out and they traded

1110
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 8: him for Westbrook. So yeah, I think sometimes the players

1111
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 8: just get a little bit caught up in their own

1112
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 8: get in their way a little bit, because if a

1113
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 8: franchise is giving you all that money, I mean, that's

1114
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 8: that's really their strongest way of saying, we want you

1115
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 8: to be a part of this team.

1116
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 5: We believe in you, and you know, so.

1117
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: I like this.

1118
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: I like this bond that they all have. They're all

1119
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 4: sort of feel like we're outsiders that our teams didn't want.

1120
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 4: I think they can bond over that all the you know,

1121
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 4: John Wall did want to be in Washington. They told

1122
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 4: him at the end, Yeah, we're trading you. They told

1123
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 4: him two weeks before. You're sticking around. Oladipo, you know,

1124
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 4: got moved. Whatever you think of that, Christian Wood has

1125
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 4: been released let go multiple times. DeMarcus Cousins can even

1126
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 4: be part of that crew.

1127
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 7: I think that's a.

1128
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 4: Bond that they all have, like it's us against the world. Yeah,

1129
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 4: we're going to show you guys, and uh, you know

1130
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 4: this one time it worked.

1131
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 7: I think.

1132
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 4: Oladipo is the number one guy. I loved Victor Olidipo

1133
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 4: pre injury and he's still a very good player. But

1134
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 4: they have to use Christian Wood a little bit more,

1135
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 4: I think.

1136
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 7: I mean, he is there the.

1137
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 4: Guy who didn't undergo a major surgery amongst all those

1138
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 4: four guys, and he should be utilized a ton.

1139
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 7: They should.

1140
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 4: They should have hammered a Blazers team that you know

1141
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 4: doesn't have CJ. McCollum, and yeah they got hot shooting

1142
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 4: from the outside. Going back and watching a little bit

1143
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 4: of that game, but Christian Wood should be killing Anna Scanter.

1144
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 4: He's their best player. He should be scoring a bajillion points.

1145
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 4: And that's the worry I for Christian Wood. Is that

1146
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 4: now with a backcourt and Oladipo Wall cousins when he

1147
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 4: comes in, Is he gonna get enough playing time because uh,

1148
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 4: not playing time touches. I guess the word is because

1149
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 4: his usage rate should go up, but it's not.

1150
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: Is that your big takeaway task from a sort of

1151
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: these games?

1152
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 7: Yeah? I think so.

1153
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 4: I think Christian Woods, yeah, he is. He is their star,

1154
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 4: even though they've got a lot of star potential, and

1155
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 4: those guys all want to prove they're great. John Wall,

1156
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 4: I think they could. They could make magic him and

1157
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 4: him and him and Christian Wood can make magic together.

1158
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 4: It could be him in gore tat times. Ten Just

1159
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 4: roll with Christian Wood down the lane, roll with the Wood.

1160
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: Do it lay anything from these games last night? Let

1161
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: me throw actually something at you. You know, we've been

1162
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: saying it all season long, like Pistons are the worst

1163
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: team in the league. Pistons are the worst team in

1164
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: the league. I'm not sure we can keep saying that.

1165
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: And I know it's not just because of the victory too.

1166
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: Even in their losses. Casey has these guys playing their

1167
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: asses off, and I don't think they're the worst at all. Actually,

1168
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of teams that are

1169
00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: much worse than Detroit Pistons. Would you.

1170
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 8: Much worse? I mean, the Wizards are worse than them.

1171
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 8: I would say the Timberwolves. So they've obviously got some

1172
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 8: injuries as well. The Pelicans have more wins than the Pistons.

1173
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 8: I think they're probably better. The Kings also have more wins,

1174
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 8: but I don't have a lot of faith in them. Okay,

1175
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 8: Wolves and Wizards, Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, I mean the

1176
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 8: Pistons are still tough to watch. But I will say

1177
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 8: last night's game, it was a bit of a throwback

1178
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 8: Blake Griffin game. He looked great, and also they were

1179
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 8: Lakers were without Anthony Davis on the second night of

1180
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 8: back to back out of Bruce Thigh. Hadn't dropped two

1181
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 8: games in a row wall season. They lost the night before.

1182
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 8: They're in Philadelphia, and this wasn't as though Lebron just

1183
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 8: decided to take the night off either. He was on

1184
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 8: the court with two and a half minutes to go.

1185
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 8: So the Lakers were trying to win this game. They

1186
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 8: just got they They actually got out played by the

1187
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 8: Pistons last night, So yeah, good good win for Detroit,

1188
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 8: But you know, are they the worst team? I mean, well,

1189
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 8: how come they came up for a game against the

1190
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 8: Lakers and played really well, like where they should be

1191
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 8: better than five and fourteen, shouldn't they really?

1192
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 5: That's that's my question about him.

1193
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 8: It's like, it's great when the Lakers comes down, You're like, yeah,

1194
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 8: gonna play hard, We're gonna give it out all tonight.

1195
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 5: But then they'll they'll just stink.

1196
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 8: And most of the time other than that, So and.

1197
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 4: Blake had a hot night. I think that's what happened Blake.

1198
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's what I'm saying.

1199
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 8: Remember, like in his first season in Detroit, Blake was

1200
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 8: all NBA again and he looked great, and then last

1201
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 8: season he was injured and uh, and if he plays

1202
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 8: like he did last night, then it's like, yeah, maybe

1203
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 8: the Pistons can be better than their record shows. But yeah,

1204
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 8: they're just a tough watch.

1205
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 5: They're a tough watch. That's the problem.

1206
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: They're a tough watch. But we can't say they're the worst.

1207
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 5: They're not the worst.

1208
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: But it's a small compliment.

1209
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 5: They're not going to make the playoffs. I wouldn't think.

1210
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying we

1211
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: kept saying that they're the worst and you don't like

1212
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: watching them. I get that they are at times rough,

1213
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: but they play hard, so that immediately removes them from

1214
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: being the worst. Because there's some other teams that are

1215
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: just going through the motions out there as we've been. Anyway,

1216
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: we'll call it there. You do we know the Detroit

1217
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: Pisons are not going to be in Worst of the Week.

1218
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: Can we can confirm that task?

1219
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 4: Let me check the notes. Yeah, you're right, You're all right.

1220
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: Let's get to the actual Worst of the Week nominees, then,

1221
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, the worst of the week.

1222
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 4: Well, I asked the people on the No Dunks Twitter account.

1223
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 4: People come through with flying colors. Great stuff for you guys.

1224
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 4: Here three nominees.

1225
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 7: The first.

1226
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 4: It's the Wizards. Baby James Long writes, time to tear

1227
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 4: it down and rebuild. Bradley Beal deserves better than this.

1228
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 4: Lots more. Glenn Perez also jumping on this. Wizard's hard

1229
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 4: pressed to find a team slash player combo that had

1230
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 4: a worse week than the Wizards in Westbrook. And one

1231
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 4: more for you guys, because this is an incredible stat

1232
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 4: from Franklin Saint stan They are one to twelve. When

1233
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 4: Bradley Beal drops forty points, give us worst of the

1234
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 4: year already. And I check this stat. They're the only

1235
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 4: team in NBA history to lose ten straight games where

1236
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 4: their player scores forty or more. He had forty seven

1237
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 4: this week against the Pells.

1238
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 7: They lost.

1239
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 4: A phenomenal stat that's crazy in NBA history. Can't find

1240
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 4: another one. So you laugh, Lee, Why are you laughing?

1241
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: Well?

1242
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 8: Because sometimes if the team's going really bad and we say, ah,

1243
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 8: the team's really bad, some of their fans will say, hey,

1244
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 8: lay off there, guys.

1245
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 5: Man, we play an odd We contributed.

1246
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 7: But we is just like, nah, we suck.

1247
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 8: At least we can win something by winning Worst of

1248
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 8: the Week or even Worse oft the ear Man. Imagine

1249
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 8: that would wrap up Worse of the ear.

1250
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 6: From now wow in January.

1251
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 2: East.

1252
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's tough, but I mean they're making a run.

1253
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 6: They are terrible. They're not even barely losing, right, They're

1254
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 6: getting smoked in most of these games. Are they gonna

1255
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 6: eventually bench Westbrook? He just dribbles the ball off his legs.

1256
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 6: He just dribbles it off his legs. I don't know

1257
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 6: if it makes sense to bring him off as a

1258
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 6: second unit, let him play against the second unit. Then

1259
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 6: when it comes to the fourth quarter, just let Beal cook.

1260
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 6: Don't let anybody else touch the ball, because if it

1261
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 6: goes to Westbrook and Beal's on the other side, it's

1262
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 6: like a thirty percent chance it'll even get back to Beal.

1263
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 6: He's been terrible. Westbrook has been brutal, so bad. Yeah,

1264
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 6: unforced the errors left and right. Man, Like he just

1265
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 6: chucks it to nobody or goes off his leg out

1266
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 6: of bounds. You're like, Okay, there's just six possessions in

1267
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 6: the fourth quarter of the game. You could have at

1268
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 6: least made close.

1269
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah.

1270
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 4: And he's been injured too, which is a big reason

1271
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 4: why they traded Johan wall. I think they assumed that

1272
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 4: they're getting the healthier player. And then Russell Westbrook has

1273
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 4: a quad contusion, as many guys have had around the league.

1274
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 4: There's a quad contusion thing going around the league. But

1275
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe it's like last year he came

1276
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 4: back in the playoffs there for the Houston Rockets, had

1277
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 4: another quad injury and he just didn't look right, like

1278
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 4: maybe he will get it going after playing a little bit.

1279
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to be optimistic, but like he had

1280
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 4: a phenomenal January February last year.

1281
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 7: I don't. Yeah, he is not.

1282
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 4: He has not been healthier than John Wall. Really, they're

1283
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 4: sort of in the same vein. The Wall has missed

1284
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 4: some time. But Westbrook, Yeah, man, I thought they had

1285
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 4: a year of good Russell and nope.

1286
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: There is no doubt watching the two right now, you

1287
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: would much rather have.

1288
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 4: John Wata, especially defensively.

1289
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 6: I mean, that's what I mean.

1290
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 4: Gives it defense man. All right, So that's candidate number one.

1291
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 4: Second nominee Kenny G Poker rights Jamal Murray's groin shot.

1292
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 7: For sure.

1293
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 4: It's fitting. We got a poker commenting Jamal Murray's growing shot.

1294
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 4: If you remember Jamal Murray, he was on the floor,

1295
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 4: he got up, hit Tim Hardaway, excuse me, below the

1296
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 4: belt and yeah he got ejected. But I think the

1297
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 4: part that angered me the most and why I included

1298
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 4: this as a nominee, was because he objected to the referees,

1299
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 4: Like he got so mad that he was ejected. Today's NBA.

1300
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 4: If you get caught doing basically anything, you're going to

1301
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 4: get ejected. But if you had a guy below the belt,

1302
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 4: like it sure seemed like he was planning on going

1303
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 4: after Timmy's and he got him.

1304
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: Got him, He got fined twenty five thousand two, right, Yeah,

1305
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: the ejection was warranted for sure y Yeah.

1306
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, we said, yeah, man, he had no complaint or

1307
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 8: no reason to sort of defend himself there. He walked up,

1308
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 8: he woke, he got off to the canvas and whacked

1309
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 8: him hardaway, right in the nuts, apricut.

1310
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 7: Yeah you know.

1311
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: I mean, but you were saying, like whether or not

1312
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: he should be suspended. Well, I sorry, like we'll but

1313
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: pumped the bricks on that we said. But you know,

1314
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: he got the fine and he got ejected from the game.

1315
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: He heard his tim Yeah, oh and that's right.

1316
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 8: I don't really think anyone's been suspended for one nut shot.

1317
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I know, Draymond Green, you know

1318
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 5: the big thing.

1319
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 8: Remember he got the thing with Steven Adams the playoffs,

1320
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 8: but that wasn't Yeah, that was an accumulation rather than

1321
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 8: the one shot. But I mean, there was no accident

1322
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 8: there with Jamal Murray. There was no like, oops, sorry,

1323
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 8: I accidentally whacked you in the nuts, right.

1324
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: I half heartedly tried to make that case, but halfway

1325
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: through I gave up saying no he was he was

1326
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: just angry, so he just punched them in it.

1327
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 5: And again Tim.

1328
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 8: Hardaway didn't do anywhere, And there's there's very I can't

1329
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 8: think of anything that would justify a nut shot. But

1330
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 8: Tim Hardaway certainly didn't do anything to justify that.

1331
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's interesting, that's interesting. Yeah, Tim Hardaway spits

1332
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: in his face, so you're okay with him.

1333
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 5: Okay, Well that's a nut shot. That's a nut shot.

1334
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 8: Yeah you're going to play dirty then, yeah, But ins

1335
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 8: of you in terms of like a hard foul or

1336
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 8: something like that, you can't you just say, all right,

1337
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 8: well I'll get you in the nuts in return a

1338
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 8: hard foul. You can get in return with a hard foul,

1339
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 8: you know, like like Region Rondo and Brad Miller. Remember

1340
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 8: that one carried over from one season to the next,

1341
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 8: you know, out a hard foul.

1342
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 6: People in the stream team are saying, Draymond on Lebron,

1343
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 6: Remember Lebron stepped over Dramond, so Dramond reached up for

1344
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 6: the punch. And that was obviously the same playoffs as

1345
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 6: the Steven Adams kick. Yeah, if you get stepped over,

1346
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:46,959
Speaker 6: is it okay to punch up ones.

1347
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that I will say in defense of

1348
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 8: draining that way, it was it was sort of a reactionary, like,

1349
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 8: you know, you're disrespecting me by stepping over me like that,

1350
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 8: So he flicked his hand up like that.

1351
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 5: So was that the one that actually got him suspended?

1352
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: Then?

1353
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 7: I think it was It was the accumulation of yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1354
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 7: I got suspended for game five.

1355
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, So when does the Draymone one that was

1356
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 8: Oh that was in the prior round, wasn't it against

1357
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 8: the thunder with Steve Stephen Adams. Well he should have

1358
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 8: been suspended for that one. I think that was.

1359
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: And then prior to that there was the Beasly thing

1360
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. It was all added up that

1361
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: he got the suspension. It wasn't just because he uh

1362
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: whatever you said, ding Lebron, dingked lebron, Yeah, ding oh

1363
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: dig the daily dig.

1364
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 6: It was it was?

1365
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 7: It was yeah, that was that was a nuts Yeah,

1366
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:40,439
Speaker 7: that was a nut tap.

1367
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 4: I know Lee likes to use the word nuts. He

1368
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 4: said it about fourteen times in the last but now

1369
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 4: you know, like sometimes I say, hitting him in the nuts,

1370
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 4: no doubt, no doubt. But you know, we've got about

1371
00:59:54,440 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 4: forty thousand euphemisms for nuts, everts, beans beans, Tim Hardaway's

1372
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 4: tim bitts, the tim bittss. But that was a nut

1373
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 4: tap that one way back, I go with nut tap.

1374
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, Jamal Murray got him in the boner and

1375
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 4: the beef. So moving on to our third nominee. Here

1376
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 4: Lebron for shoving Joel Embiid when he went up for

1377
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 4: a dunk, according to Pete Sumacoll but it's polarizing because

1378
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 4: Pete takes that position, while Ryan Grossman replied and said

1379
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 4: Embiid for flopping on Lebron's light push, oh excuse me,

1380
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,479
Speaker 4: and flinging his legs forward instead of trying to land

1381
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 4: like a normal human being.

1382
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 7: So the debate.

1383
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 4: And amongst our comments here when Lebron yeah, put his

1384
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 4: hands on Joel Embiid and Biid went down hard on

1385
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 4: his back, that big play. Marcus Sole may have got

1386
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 4: a hand on him there as well. Yeah, so I

1387
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 4: kind of disagree with Ryan Grossman. I don't think he

1388
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 4: was trying to injure himself and throw up his legs

1389
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 4: and land on his back. No chance, Joel Embiid's trying

1390
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 4: to hurt himself or or land in an awkward position.

1391
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 4: But I know you guys have talked about it. Have

1392
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 4: any of you change your opinion on Lebron putting his

1393
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 4: hands and not playing, you know, real defense, not jumping

1394
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 4: and trying to block Joel Embiid's shot.

1395
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: No, I mean that photo is great because we talked

1396
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: about it, like it looks like Lebron's like, please don't

1397
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: dunk on me. I don't want to be on this poster.

1398
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: So he's putting up his hands. Now, I don't think

1399
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: and I stick by this. I know we don't have

1400
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: the video, but I don't think Lebron really straight up

1401
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: pushes Joel Embiid. I think he's bracing himself. And you're right.

1402
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: I think there's a weird like Lakers sandwich thing going

1403
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: on here. Where Lebron's pressing high. There might be some

1404
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: contact from gasol a little bit lower, and that one

1405
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: guy pushing high on his on his front, one guy

1406
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: pushing a little bit lower from the back that might

1407
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: sort of topple e bead a little bit in the air. Now, Embiid,

1408
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: you know Grossman's right, Embiid, he embellisihous, But I'm with you.

1409
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he was trying to just straight up

1410
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: land on his ass when he's and having back problems,

1411
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: So I think they got it. I was totally fine

1412
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: with the flagrant call on that because he did hit

1413
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: the ground hard and a guy in the air is vulnerable,

1414
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: and you know, again there's like sort of this weird

1415
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: pushing from both sides. I think by accident a little

1416
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: bit and Lebron just not wanted to get dunked on.

1417
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: But it wasn't malicious to really go to a flagrant too,

1418
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: in my opinion. So I don't know if that's a

1419
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: worst of the week for me and I strike it.

1420
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: What do you think, Trey, I.

1421
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 6: Don't like pushing guys out of the air when they're jumping.

1422
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 6: I don't think it was a maliciously bad push by Lebron.

1423
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 6: I think a flagrant one was the right call. But

1424
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 6: embiid that guy has crazy falls, man, that's just how

1425
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 6: he falls. He's wild. When he goes down to the ground,

1426
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 6: the legs go flying. He lands, however he's going to

1427
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 6: land sometimes it looks really really bad, and that one

1428
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 6: obviously looks pretty brutal. But I thought a flagrant one

1429
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 6: was the right call. I didn't think Embeid flopp it

1430
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 6: think he just falls hilariously and that's exactly what happened.

1431
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 6: So yeah, the call was right, but I will still

1432
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 6: allow this as a worst of the week because you

1433
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 6: shouldn't be pushing guys when they're jumping lely.

1434
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, he absolutely shouldn't push him. I don't think he did, though.

1435
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 8: I think it was just he just sort of got

1436
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 8: caught out and he was almost trying to protect himself. Yeah,

1437
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 8: braced himself and just the way that Embiid fell made

1438
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 8: it worse. If you want someone who flopped badly, it

1439
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 8: was in the whoopsies this week. Gary Trent Junior. Diving

1440
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 8: out of bounds like that, that's the worst of the

1441
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 8: week if you ask me, that's like he did. I

1442
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 8: didn't even know if he felt the guy behind him,

1443
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 8: and he dived away from the ball. That to me

1444
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 8: is embellishment, I think, and beats a big, heavy dude

1445
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 8: and just the momentum sort of carried him down. I

1446
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 8: don't think there was any real embellishment. I don't think

1447
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,919
Speaker 8: Lebron did anything nasty there. Just sometimes those things happen,

1448
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 8: and I'm just glad though that Embiid was able to

1449
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 8: finish the game, the Sixers were able to win, and

1450
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 8: as far as I can tell, there's been no lingering.

1451
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 5: Issues with that.

1452
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 8: For because if he falls and he's out for the game,

1453
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 8: and if the Lakers win, and if embads out for

1454
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 8: three or four games and Lebron didn't get ejected, then

1455
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 8: you can see the conspiracy theorists pouring out and saying, Oh,

1456
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 8: the NBA loves Lebron, and Lebron gets away with everything.

1457
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 8: So I'm just glad that no injuries came from that incident.

1458
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 4: Okay, you guys are leaning away from that one. So

1459
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 4: it's either Jamal Murray and his cohoney shot. I remember lee,

1460
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 4: that's my favorite word for nuts. It's Cojon's gotta go

1461
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 4: with that. Yeah, and I know you like Spanish words,

1462
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 4: so let's go Jamal Murray. And with Wizards. I think

1463
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 4: I think everybody's leaning towards Wizards. It just seems like

1464
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 4: that's the nice that's the nice middle ground. Everybody's just

1465
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 4: railing on the Washington Yard.

1466
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: That's horrible week. Yeah, that's my that's my pick. All right,

1467
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: but good nominees there. All right, let's get to tweet

1468
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: of the Night.

1469
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 4: Tweet of the Night.

1470
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 7: Wow.

1471
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: Now tweet in the Night is inspired by this crazy

1472
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: story that I really still haven't figured out. It's the

1473
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: game stop story the Stalks, But I love this little part.

1474
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: It's a two part tweet the Night. Here ESPN's Pablo

1475
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: Torre he tweeted, he whispers, the guy who runs Melvin Capital,

1476
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: the game stop shorting hedge fund Reddit is trying to obliterate,

1477
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: is a co owner of the Charlotte Hornets. Gasp. Well,

1478
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: I love this response from at Cranky Cyborg, who whispers

1479
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: back in a darkened room. Craig Elo places a large

1480
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: by of gmmet laughs. Maniacally great tweet Crank Cyborg Again,

1481
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: Do I understand the whole thing completely? No, but I

1482
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: get this. I know what's going on here. Obviously a

1483
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: co owner of the Hornets, me, and you're working with

1484
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan there. Well, craig ELO's getting his revenge for

1485
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: one of the greatest moments in NBA postseason history. Yeah, JD,

1486
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: way to rack it up. Oh, of course we're talking.

1487
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: Jordan hanging in the air to knock down the shot

1488
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: over a dejected craig Elo in the back to win

1489
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: the series. During the eighty nine Playoffs Bowls over Calves.

1490
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 6: Talk about a game stop.

1491
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: It's right, well done.

1492
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 8: Oh man, what a swing in three seconds from Craig Eler.

1493
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 8: He basically won the YEP the series for his team,

1494
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 8: and then that's all we remember him for, just slumping

1495
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 8: after Michael knocks in that shot.

1496
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: But he's getting his revenge. He's getting his revenge, you

1497
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: know now, some thirty years later or whatever it is.

1498
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like hanging three seconds, like buying a stock, right,

1499
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 4: like you're just sitting there ready to click, click, click click,

1500
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 4: just went up.

1501
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: Oh I got it?

1502
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 5: Oh I didn't.

1503
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 4: It's all like buying a shoe on one of those

1504
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,439
Speaker 4: sites where you buy a shoe. Yeah, one of those,

1505
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 4: one of those, one of those.

1506
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: I'm already excited for this movie though, this game stop

1507
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: movie or series or whatever, looking forward to it.

1508
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 5: Really wait, just watch Trading Places. Trading Places is a

1509
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 5: great movie.

1510
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: Turning Places is a great movie. The Big is a

1511
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: good movie.

1512
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 7: Yeah it's a good movie. Yeah you're not excited for this,

1513
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 7: Come on, this.

1514
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: Will be This will make a good either documentary or

1515
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: even movie.

1516
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 7: For sure.

1517
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 4: I'll just go back and watch Vin diesel In boiler Room.

1518
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: Oh, that's last picked.

1519
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 6: Basically just a remake of Glengarry Glenn Ross with Vin

1520
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 6: Diesel and Giovanni Rabisi classic right there, though. I heard

1521
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 6: the next stock that's going to be really hot is Arby's. Yeah,

1522
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 6: people are gonna be beefing up that stock to the move.

1523
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 6: Get your beef now, baby.

1524
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, get your beef now. Okay, just a reminder pick

1525
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: them result, We're not going to pick a game tonight.

1526
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: We'll start it up on Monday again for February. But

1527
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: Tass is the loser, our first loser of the season.

1528
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: In pick them, Tassi Russ start for you. Let's be

1529
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: honest here, eight and sixteen not your best work, but

1530
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: you will be paying it off and that's always fun.

1531
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: So if people have a last minute idea, let us know,

1532
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: no dunks at the Athletic dot Com, let us know

1533
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: in the stream team, what you'd like to see Tassi

1534
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: do to pay off his first lost here of the season.

1535
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,919
Speaker 1: It could be anything. We could do it live during

1536
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: the show. We can make a little clip for social

1537
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: and share that up across all of our social channels.

1538
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 4: Whatever you got, let us know, Yeah, come up with

1539
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 4: the idea. And the social plan as well as the

1540
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 4: production plan for us.

1541
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 7: Please thank you.

1542
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's end this fun drop podcast with a

1543
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: little rapid fire fund.

1544
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 7: There we go.

1545
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 4: The Warriors Kelly Ubre has been in several trade rumors recently.

1546
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 4: Dubbs head coach Steve Kerr thought Uber should hear about

1547
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 4: what happened from the organization's perspective, so he and the

1548
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 4: struggling forward had a little one on one talk. When's

1549
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 4: the time you initiated a difficult conversation, like Steve Kerr did?

1550
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 4: Jd Well it?

1551
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 3: Actually it was with our own Trey Kirby, believe it

1552
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 3: or not, back in our third year. We're going into

1553
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 3: our third year of the Starters and Matt and I

1554
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 3: had discussed it at length and we had sort of

1555
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 3: decided arbitrarily we were taking Trey off the big desk

1556
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 3: and giving him is his own spot, and we were like,

1557
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 3: this is going to be awesome, this is going to

1558
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 3: be great for Trey. We're really excited for it. But

1559
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 3: we were terrified that he wasn't going to be into

1560
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 3: it at all. So it was like it was I

1561
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 3: was nervous about it.

1562
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 4: I was.

1563
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 3: We didn't know how he was going to react and

1564
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 3: and uh, listeners and viewers are going to sort of

1565
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 3: be surprised. But out of all the five of us,

1566
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 3: Trey Kirby, he's the most angry I've ever seen any

1567
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 3: of us, you know, like he he can't get angry,

1568
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 3: So we were concerned. I was nervous, but you know,

1569
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 3: he he's a true professionally took it like a champ

1570
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 3: and he and killed it in that position. So it

1571
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 3: all worked out, but you were worried. It was a

1572
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 3: difficult conversation to initiate.

1573
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 6: I'll tell you that right now, still waiting for that

1574
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 6: stool to sit on.

1575
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the first thing he said. I had

1576
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 3: to stand for thirty minutes.

1577
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I swear that's what all the viewers were most

1578
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: concerned about.

1579
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 6: Too.

1580
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: Poor Tray gona stand for the entire show.

1581
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 3: I was very concerned about that, believe me.

1582
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 6: Jad's right though. I keep it pretty chill, but when

1583
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 6: the flip switches.

1584
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 3: It's actually a joy to see. I love I love

1585
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 3: it when it happens. Just now, when it's directed at me.

1586
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 6: I had a nice blow up, Summred. I guess it

1587
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 6: probably would have been about this time last year when

1588
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 6: we were talking about live shows. Yes, some people on

1589
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 6: the phone.

1590
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 7: We went on about it.

1591
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 6: Sometimes that's the thing. You got to keep it under

1592
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 6: the surface so when the explosions come, people really listen.

1593
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 1: It is a fun treat. When you get very angry,

1594
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 1: I always go back to the to the Shakeshack incident

1595
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: to four years.

1596
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 6: I was more angry about having to walk to a

1597
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 6: shake Shack because Matt Austin wouldn't let me eat a

1598
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 6: bacon burger than I was about having to sit over

1599
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 6: at a different table for four years. Come here for years?

1600
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, that.

1601
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 2: Story.

1602
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 4: Okay, Tray, what's your answer for this one? Is it

1603
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 4: that conversation you have with j.

1604
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 6: I'm still waiting. No, I can't find the right time

1605
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 6: to ask him about that stool.

1606
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 1: I just.

1607
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 6: You do got to initiate a lot of difficult conversations

1608
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 6: when you're a dad. For me, a lot lately has

1609
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 6: been about Mario Kart. We got to switch for Christmas.

1610
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 6: I do think my mom may have helped bring game

1611
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 6: Stop stock back. You know, she bought me a Nintendo

1612
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 6: Switch from game Stop. I couldn't believe it when she

1613
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 6: sent me the order. I was like, Wow, game Stop,

1614
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 6: Little did I know A month later, we're all millionaires

1615
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 6: off of it. But I've been having to tell the

1616
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 6: girls they love trash talking me and I love it.

1617
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 6: I love getting trash talk on, like it's important that

1618
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 6: you learn this now at a young age. But they're

1619
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 6: not very good at trash talk yet. They'll be like

1620
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 6: they get you know, the blueshell that comes from last

1621
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 6: place to hit somebody in first place, or you get

1622
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 6: the bullet bill. You get these incredible objects when you're

1623
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 6: in the back of the pack and the girls are

1624
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 6: all like, eh, sorry, dad, I'm like, I paused the game.

1625
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 6: I'm like, you know what, you're getting all the good

1626
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 6: items because you're in last place. You to pick up

1627
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 6: your game. Here we're trying to beat the red team.

1628
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 6: I'm carrying this. I'm putting up fifteen in first place.

1629
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 6: You're down in eleventh and twelfth. I need to see

1630
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 6: it tenth and ninth. And they picked it up and

1631
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 6: they were there and now they are classic trash talkers.

1632
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 6: You'll love to see it.

1633
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 5: Wow.

1634
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: So you play as a team, is that what you

1635
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: can do?

1636
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 6: You can you can't? You like to play on the

1637
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 6: same team because then you also you also can't hit

1638
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 6: each other. You know, like what somebody you can't I

1639
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 6: can't hit Eyler eight up whatever it is. But but yeah, man,

1640
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 6: I feel like the wizards out there sometimes I'm putting

1641
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 6: up these masks. I'm putting up a fifteen every time.

1642
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,839
Speaker 6: First place again for Daddy didn't have to use an object.

1643
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 7: Pick it up. Stop dribbling it off your foot skates.

1644
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 7: What's your answer for this one?

1645
01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: A time I initiated a difficult conversation. I'm ninety nine

1646
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: percent sure I've shared this story before on the podcast

1647
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: because we've been talking for fifteen sixteen years now. But

1648
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 1: it's an old story, so I'll just tell it again

1649
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: because I know we have new listeners. It's the well

1650
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 1: I call it the infamous thirty shirt story. I don't

1651
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: know if that rings a bell for you, especially Tass. Yeah, yeah, okay,

1652
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: So just quickly, it was a long time ago. I'm

1653
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 1: living with my buddy Brody and Tody, Yes that's true,

1654
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: of course, and Tim, our other friend, Tim was getting married.

1655
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: It was gonna be a very small wedding at the

1656
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: court at the courthouse and then just sort of back

1657
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: to Tim's place, and you know, Ken was coming over,

1658
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: Brody was going I'm going with Nora and stuff like that.

1659
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: We had like a small, little like pre party at

1660
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: our place. Now again I'm living with Brody and Tody.

1661
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: We're all getting ready for this small wedding, and you know,

1662
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of talk with the guys, like are

1663
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: we all wearing the same colored shirt? Sort of to

1664
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 1: like almost make it look like we're groomsmen.

1665
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 3: Again.

1666
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: It's a really small affair, but like we're like, yeah,

1667
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: we'll wear a blue shirt. Who is not invited to

1668
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: the wedding. He because he's there and we're all there

1669
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: and we're all friends. But you know, Tody's sort of

1670
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: like at the time, was like a you know, one

1671
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: extension right, one layer sort of removed at least from Tim's.

1672
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: But he starts going, oh, god, well, I guess I

1673
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: gotta iron my blue shirt. I hate ironing. And so

1674
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: the whole time Tody, in front of everybody, is ironing

1675
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: his blue shirt and he's hating it because who likes

1676
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: to iron? I mean I hate it too. He's he's

1677
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: just all angry because we decided on a blue shirt

1678
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: and he's got to iron it. But like everybody's looking

1679
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: around at each other going does he know like, is

1680
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: he invited? Like, are we sure he's coming? Of course?

1681
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: Ken and and Brody. No one wants to like bring

1682
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: it up. No one wants to say it. And I

1683
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: just can't. Like I'm sitting there going I don't think

1684
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: Tim's invited him. I don't think he's allowed to have

1685
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: that many people at the courthouse. Like, I don't want

1686
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,600
Speaker 1: Tody to show up to this and not be allowed in.

1687
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: So I said, all right there. Everybody else is like,

1688
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: while Tody's like cursing from the other room, iron thinking

1689
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: his shirt, everybody else is like, oh, we should we do?

1690
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: What should we do? I'm like, all right, screw it.

1691
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: And so I didn't want to do it in front

1692
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: of everyone. So I called Tody into my room. It's like, hey, man,

1693
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: like I like, I actually asked him. I was like,

1694
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: did Tim invite you to the wedding? I like we

1695
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: we just weren't sure. And he's like no, I like,

1696
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: I just don't know if there's like enough room. And

1697
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 1: he was like all right, and just like so sad,

1698
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: so sad because he wasn't now coming to the wedding,

1699
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,719
Speaker 1: but sort of happy he didn't have to keep ironing

1700
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: his shirt just like literally just walked over back to

1701
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 1: his computer and sat down, and everybody knew I'd had

1702
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: the conversation with him. But man, it was like I

1703
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: did not want to do it.

1704
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 6: I should, you know what?

1705
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: I I wish I didn't because what would Nothing would

1706
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: have happened, he would have came to the wedding, Nothing

1707
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 1: would have happened. I just don't know why I got

1708
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: I got in my head. I was concerned that like

1709
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: the numbers thing in the courthouse or something, But it

1710
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: was the province so funny watching him angrily iron his

1711
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,080
Speaker 1: shirt thinking he.

1712
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 5: Was going for I don't know why.

1713
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 6: It kills me, but yeah, that's worse angrily ironing a

1714
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 6: shirt or being despondent that you're no longer ironing a shirt.

1715
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was just sad, sad.

1716
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 4: I like how people have photoshopped him into the courthouse,

1717
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 4: into the photos. There's a little Todi's face right there.

1718
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: Photoshop.

1719
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 7: Yeah he is.

1720
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 4: I like that story because I actually went to Tody's

1721
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 4: bachelor party because I was sort of an extension of

1722
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 4: an extension. I wasn't invited to his bachelor party, and

1723
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 4: this was in British Columbia, Canada's on the West Coast,

1724
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 4: but I went to a cousin's wedding in Seattle, so

1725
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 4: I was just kind of around there. So then I

1726
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 4: just latched on and I had a great time at

1727
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 4: this bachelor party. Oh man, yeah, I was wearing my

1728
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 4: ruse shoes lely. It was such a blast.

1729
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: I really should have pulled you aside task and said, yeah, man,

1730
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:53,759
Speaker 1: why are you on this boat?

1731
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 7: But I let it go.

1732
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 6: I learned my.

1733
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 4: Lesson fantastic all right next here, seventy two year old

1734
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 4: Spurst head coach Greg Popovich has received his first dose

1735
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 4: of the COVID nineteen vaccine. In a short PSA release

1736
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,839
Speaker 4: by the NBA, pop said, science wise, it's a no brainer.

1737
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 4: What's something you've done that you felt was undoubtedly the

1738
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 4: right thing to do, but others questioned it.

1739
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 7: JD.

1740
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I've always been very frank and candid with

1741
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 3: my kids. I never watch my language around them. I

1742
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 3: never have. I always let them tell me what's appropriate

1743
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 3: for them to watch, and rather than me tell them

1744
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 3: so whatever they can handle, I will let them watch

1745
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 3: and I stand by that. But people don't like it.

1746
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 3: They don't like it at all. Yes, my kids have

1747
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 3: potty mouths when they're inside the house. They don't when

1748
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 3: they know enough not to use that language outside of

1749
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 3: the house. But you know, I'm right and I don't care,

1750
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 3: and people are people are annoyed by it, and that's fine,

1751
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 3: you know, let them be annoyed. But that's my parenting

1752
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 3: style and I'm sticking to it.

1753
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, were you dropping potty mouths potty words like when

1754
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 4: they were you know, three four when they repeat.

1755
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,759
Speaker 3: It everything, or oh yeah, day one, day one.

1756
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 4: So they're dropping f bombs? I mean when they were

1757
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 4: what in junior kindergarten daycare because they didn't know to

1758
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 4: reel it in. Then well, it's very possible. It's very possible.

1759
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 3: But I never got any reports of any foul language

1760
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 3: at daycare or places like that. But you know, I've

1761
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 3: there's there's all sorts of behavior that people that kids

1762
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 3: take to daycare with them, you know, Like I had

1763
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 3: a daycare teacher tell me once about a girl who

1764
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 3: would always fix cocktails like at the daycare, you know

1765
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like she would pretend to make martinis

1766
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 3: and a shaker and stuff like that, you know. And

1767
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 3: then there was another kid who whenever he got into

1768
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 3: you know, like toy car. He was just bom around

1769
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 3: and just fist and get out of the way, and

1770
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 3: you know, fisting, fisting galore.

1771
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know.

1772
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 3: That stuff is that stuff is totally normal, and uh,

1773
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 3: you know, it's fine. It's it's there. Once kids get

1774
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 3: to a certain age, they know what they're supposed to

1775
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 3: say when they're supposed to say it, and you just

1776
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 3: have to trust them to to to do that. And

1777
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 3: by the way, I think they're going to use that

1778
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 3: language anyway, because I hear my kids on zoom calls

1779
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 3: all the time, and the other kids are just as bad,

1780
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 3: and I know that their parents are not are not

1781
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 3: into them using that kind of language. I mean, the

1782
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 3: probably learned it from my kids, But again I don't care.

1783
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 6: Great Paul from Irwin Erosio in the stream team, who says,

1784
01:19:55,120 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 6: I mean they said oh ship in the TBJ Christmas album, Well, yes,

1785
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 6: a classic moment, very very being JD's kids, that's exactly right. Yeah,

1786
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 6: all right, Trey, what's your answer for this one. I'm

1787
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 6: becoming a late stay upper again, and I don't know.

1788
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 6: Others question it because you should be getting full night's sleep.

1789
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,759
Speaker 6: But I like to think of myself as Michael Jordan.

1790
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,560
Speaker 6: You know, he didn't sleep that much. So for me,

1791
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 6: get that yoga and get that shower, and then I'm

1792
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 6: ready to go. I would rather watch the games.

1793
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 5: At night.

1794
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 6: And then try and remember exactly what happened in the morning,

1795
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 6: because then I can throw on a ten minute recap

1796
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 6: and be like, oh, yes, I do enjoy basketball, and

1797
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 6: what happened last night? I remember this happening. But uh,

1798
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 6: I don't know even I question it staying up super

1799
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 6: duper late. But how else are you going to see

1800
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 6: that big beef?

1801
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: How many hours of sleep are you getting?

1802
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 6: Five or six?

1803
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 4: Oh?

1804
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know.

1805
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 6: I think different buddies required different different things. The problem

1806
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 6: is when I'll get like a four hour night sleep,

1807
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 6: that's not that's too little. Five, five as doable, four

1808
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 6: as bad news bears.

1809
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 5: You know, try it is a good master class on sleep.

1810
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 5: Matthew Walker puts it.

1811
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,799
Speaker 6: There and you fall asleep.

1812
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 5: No, no, it's pretty pretty amazing. But I'm surprised.

1813
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 8: I'm not surprised the world is like just teetering on

1814
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,560
Speaker 8: the brink of complete disaster, because when you listen to

1815
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 8: this guy and see just how important sleep is and

1816
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 8: how it affects every single part of life. It's like,

1817
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 8: oh my god, no wonder everyone's so crazy these days.

1818
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 6: Are you saying my temper is because I'm not getting

1819
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 6: any sleep?

1820
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 8: I'm just saying it's pretty fascinating. It's pretty pretty fascinating.

1821
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 8: Even LEBRONI even gets a shout out. It Actually Lebron's

1822
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 8: apparently a great sleep recording to him, I.

1823
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,839
Speaker 5: Don't Ron's still sleep.

1824
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 1: He blew my mind.

1825
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 5: Oh man, anyway, check it out.

1826
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 7: All right, it's skeets. So what's your answer?

1827
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, just quickly, something you've done that you felt was

1828
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: undoubtedly the right thing to do. But others question. I

1829
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 1: would see every single iteration of this show. Every time

1830
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 1: we've made a big change, you get the haters, you

1831
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 1: get the doubtors saying, why would you ever do that?

1832
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 1: Why would you take an audio podcast and turn it

1833
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: into a video podcast. That's stupid. No one's going to

1834
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 1: watch that, that's dumb. Oh, actually they're wrong, and I

1835
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 1: thank oh. We never listened to those people because it

1836
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 1: ended up turning into a real job for us and

1837
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 1: not just a podcast where we did we did, you know,

1838
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 1: put our heart and soul into it and get get

1839
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: paid a single thing you know, I get it. People

1840
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: don't like change. But every time we switch something up,

1841
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: try something new, you just get people I don't know

1842
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: about that. I don't like that change that don't do that.

1843
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: It's like, uh no, that's not how it works, man.

1844
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: You got to keep changing. You got to keep trying things,

1845
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: especially to create this into it or turn this into

1846
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: a job. So just every time we did that, you

1847
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, especially tasing JD way back

1848
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 1: in the day. It's less. So now maybe we've gained

1849
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 1: the trust to people, but back then it was a

1850
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: lot of like that. That will never work. That's a

1851
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: dumb idea, and we prove them wrong.

1852
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1853
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 4: I despise change. My one year old is eating it

1854
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 4: all over the floor. I can't wait till till we're

1855
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 4: a cashless society and coins are gone forever. Speaking of change,

1856
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 4: Kevin Porter Junior was traded from the Caves to the

1857
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 4: Rockets this past week after he went on a tie

1858
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 4: raid in Cleveland's locker room. Porter Junior was angry about

1859
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,640
Speaker 4: his playing time this season, which has been nil, and

1860
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 4: the Cavs thought the relationship with Porter was irreconcilable. So

1861
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,759
Speaker 4: when's the time you needed a fresh start, like kp

1862
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 4: JA does JD.

1863
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the answer is right now, like today, immediately,

1864
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 3: like it's urgent, the alarm bells are ringing, but you know,

1865
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 3: spinning up what Skeez was just talking about. In this business,

1866
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 3: sometimes fresh starts are kind of overrated a little, you know.

1867
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, we need to do it, yes we

1868
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 3: need to be stay uncomfortable, But how many times have

1869
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 3: we reinvented this show in the last year and a

1870
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 3: half alone. I mean, it's got to be six or

1871
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 3: seven at least, you know, going from in the studio

1872
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 3: to home to video to blah blah blah. And it's

1873
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 3: gonna happen again in about nine months. And every time

1874
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 3: we do it, it's an enormous amount of work, right

1875
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 3: for all of us. So I'm looking forward to us,

1876
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 3: hopefully in the next six to nine months, us getting

1877
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 3: back together in the same room to do the show.

1878
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 3: But I'm already freaked out about how much work it's

1879
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 3: gonna be because it's gonna be a massive undertaking. But yeah,

1880
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 3: fresh starts overrated, but you gotta do it. Not an answer,

1881
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 3: I guess, but.

1882
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 7: Definitely, hey man, that was a thoughtful answer is what

1883
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 7: it was.

1884
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 3: Thank you, Tess Tray next one for me.

1885
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 6: A fresh start at anytime that I have to get

1886
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 6: a new phone. My phone breaks every one point five years.

1887
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 6: I get furious that day that it's broken, that I

1888
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 6: can't take my Instagram pictures, and I got a new

1889
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 6: one a couple of days later. I love to start fresh.

1890
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 6: I don't want all the same apps there. I'm gonna

1891
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 6: eventually download so apps, but I don't want to just

1892
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 6: clone it. I want to feel what I'm actually using,

1893
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 6: you know, I want to feel. I want to be

1894
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 6: in deep with my phone to know where things are

1895
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 6: going to live.

1896
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: How are you?

1897
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 6: How are you going to do it?

1898
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 3: You know?

1899
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 6: Once I get the tip that, oh you know how

1900
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 6: geniuses organize their apps in folders. That really opened my eyes.

1901
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 6: And next thing I know, I only got two pages

1902
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 6: worth of apps. You're able to trim them down, keep

1903
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 6: things a little bit more organized. I always like to

1904
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 6: start fresh. I don't want to come in with an

1905
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 6: old phone, out with the old, in with the new.

1906
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 3: I can't stand folders on the phone. You guys, I

1907
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 3: did the same thing, put all my apps into folders,

1908
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 3: And now there's there's apps that I've still to this day,

1909
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 3: I have no idea where they are. I can't find them,

1910
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 3: like it, I just I just search, you know.

1911
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:43,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's how I launched most of my apps is

1912
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 6: via search as well. Pulled down and look for something.

1913
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 6: But it's also freaky how good they're getting at the recommendations.

1914
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 6: Like anytime I swipe down to open up the search feature,

1915
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 6: the first thing that pops up at if it's five

1916
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Speaker 6: o'clock New York Times cooking, They're like, oh, it's dinner time,

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Speaker 6: is it. We're trying to figure out what to make.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, whoa, you're right, perhap it's braised beans. We

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Speaker 6: shall see. They learn, they learned. I mean, your phone

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Speaker 6: knows you. So maybe that's a good reason to start

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Speaker 6: fresh too. Throw a curveball. They're like, whoa this guy

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Speaker 6: is using He's outs totally differently.

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Speaker 7: Skeets your answer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's similar, I guess to where JD was going.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, after every season, for sure

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Speaker 1: is when you need the fresh start. And this has

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01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: been a weird one because we didn't really have an

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Speaker 1: off season. You know, there was a few weeks there,

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01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: but we weren't going anywhere. I love the idea of

1930
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: doing a big, long, crazy NBA season, putting our heart

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Speaker 1: and soul into it, creating a ton of ton of content,

1932
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 1: watching a ton of games, having a blast, and then man,

1933
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 1: just being exhausted at the end of it and getting

1934
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Speaker 1: the hell out of Dodge for a little bit and

1935
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Speaker 1: trying to go do something and travel with Wilt. Now,

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Speaker 1: we can't do that right now, So I need that

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01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: eventually and we'll get there. But I would say right now,

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Speaker 1: with the amount of work we're doing over the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, every Friday is a nice like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: at least we don't have something lined up on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: And I even sometimes will take the Friday night off

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Speaker 1: from watching basketball, even it depends if the Raps are

1943
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 1: playing and who they're playing and stuff like that. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll just like I'll catch up on Saturday morning with

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Speaker 1: what I need to know and I'll actually take the

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Speaker 1: night off from watching you know, four or five hours

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Speaker 1: of basketball. So every Friday right now, with the amount

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Speaker 1: of content we're pumping out during the week, it's like, Okay,

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01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:24,600
Speaker 1: end of the week is here. I could use a

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Speaker 1: day off from worrying about getting something up on social

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Speaker 1: doing this, doing that, doing this. So it's nice, that's great.

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Speaker 1: But then the best part, the beautiful part about it all,

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Speaker 1: it's like, come Sunday, I'm like, man, I wish we

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Speaker 1: had a show today. You know. It's like I can't

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Speaker 1: wait for Monday. So that, you know, is a good

1956
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Speaker 1: job when you're like, I want to get right back

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Speaker 1: into it now. Now I'm refreshed and I want to

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Speaker 1: talk hoops with the buds again. So that's good.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'd like to travel, really is what I'm.

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Speaker 1: Going to get back to be fun travel again.

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Speaker 6: Crazy stuff. What are you watching tonight? It's fresh Start Friday?

1962
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Speaker 6: What are you gonna watch tonight? You know what?

1963
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't damn gonna watch anything. I might

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Speaker 1: read them all.

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Speaker 6: I'm nice.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, there's a lot of television being watched

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Speaker 1: obviously through the week, so it's unplumbing for a little bit.

1968
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Speaker 1: And let's call it there. That was a fun drop podcast.

1969
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Speaker 1: for the best damn sports writing in the world. We

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Speaker 1: do have one more thing coming later today, Ley, very

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Speaker 1: solid play strow your thumbs up. Yeah, so that will

1977
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1979
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Speaker 1: and lease got the hat on?

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Speaker 6: Yes cool, you look good.

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Speaker 1: You look like a million dollars.

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Speaker 6: And there we cook, there we go.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We will talk to you guys

1984
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Speaker 1: on Monday. Clipper bros.

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Speaker 6: You heard your first have a great time turn up.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember cohonis is the Spanish

1988
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Speaker 4: word for drawers. I did not think that was the case.

1989
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Speaker 4: I mean, somebody correct, that's Spanish speaking people out there.

1990
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Speaker 4: Where is cohonas the word for drawers?

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Speaker 7: Is that right?

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Speaker 6: Lee?

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's correct.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, crazy, that's just crazy cool.

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Speaker 1: Praise the weekend. You could say.

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Speaker 8: Every day.

1997
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Speaker 2: And agy happy every minute.

1998
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Speaker 3: It's been so long that your.

1999
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Speaker 5: Mona way, It's happened already.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be Grevy