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Speaker 1: Chip coffee back with us internationally acclaimed medium paranormal investigator

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Speaker 1: writer Speaker. His abilities manifested themselves when he was a

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Speaker 1: young child, and after successful careers in counseling, the entertainment

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Speaker 1: industry and the travel management, he began a full time

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Speaker 1: career as a medium. Chip has hosted Psychic Kids, Children

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Speaker 1: of the Paranormal or one hour documentary pilot, followed by

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Speaker 1: several seasons of the groundbreaking series that aired on both

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Speaker 1: the A and E and Biograph Fee and of course

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Speaker 1: the last TV show Exorcism Live, which was great about

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Speaker 1: that incredible story of the little boy from Baltimore who

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Speaker 1: ended up in St. Louis and they exercised him there, Chip,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. Always a pleasure. Um. You know, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of getting to be the season for all things spooky.

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Speaker 1: So my schedule is getting ready to ramp up, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sort of taking it easy for a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks before that happens. Well good, because look, you deserve it.

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Speaker 1: You are one of the hardest working people in the

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Speaker 1: paranormal field. Chip, that I know. I mean, you don't stop.

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Speaker 1: You know, my birthday's happening in a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: and and as I get older, I start thinking when

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Speaker 1: little bit? And I don't see it in the near future.

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Speaker 1: Your your birthdays on the solar eclipse day? Isn't that birthday?

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Speaker 1: It's actually on the solar eclipse day. Isn't that great?

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I'm gonna make a prediction.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to make the sun dark for your birthday

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Speaker 1: for a couple of minutes on that day. That's that's

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Speaker 1: my prediction. I like that thought. You're a powerful man. Absolutely. Hey,

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Speaker 1: wasn't it? It was on? Gosh, you would you believe

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Speaker 1: think that there was really something to it. I don't

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Speaker 1: I just don't have them. George, But you do believe

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Speaker 1: categorically that it exists. I believe as far as spirits

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Speaker 1: Think World i PC dot com. This quote always sticks

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Speaker 1: and Mark said, the intent of the seeker affects the results.

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Speaker 1: So if you go into it expecting bad results, you

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Speaker 1: To give you an example, George, when I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: a Weigia board, and we consulted the Weigia board. My mom, my, dad,

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Speaker 1: I think it's the I think it's what you you

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Speaker 1: Merch is probably one of the world's leading authorities on

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Speaker 1: He's opening a huge museum of reigia boards. He has

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Speaker 1: They finished there, I call it, they finished their transition

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Speaker 1: And we have no body anymore. So the body is

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Speaker 1: But the mind exists, the consciousness exists, and the spirit,

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Speaker 1: of course the soul exist. So those two things, two

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Speaker 1: out of three, continue to exist. Listen to more Coast

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