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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up?

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Friday,

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Speaker 2: February second. Groundhog Day. Oh boy, remember when that mattered

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Speaker 2: in elementary school. I don't even I don't even think

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Speaker 2: it's like a thing anymore, at least I don't see

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Speaker 2: much coverage of it. Got an action packed podcast for

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Speaker 2: you on a Friday, taking you into the weekend. This

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Speaker 2: is what the future weekends are gonna be like. After

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, folks, no NFL preview on the Friday,

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Speaker 2: no big gambling slate, There's only one more of those

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Speaker 2: next week. We'll do it. Man. It's it's gonna be tough.

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Speaker 2: But NBA will pick up, right, I mean, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: stars will start playing right. We'll get to Lebron ad

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Speaker 2: embid all missing the Thursday night t at Slate later.

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Speaker 2: What I got to start with this and this is

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Speaker 2: a little bit in the weeds. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: get I'm not going to become that guy who's always

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Speaker 2: replying to people who come after me on the internet.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes people, you know, it's fun to spar back

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Speaker 2: with them. And I'm going to open the pod today

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Speaker 2: talking about somebody you guys have probably never even heard of.

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Speaker 2: I was not familiar with him until I clicked on

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Speaker 2: his profile, So you know, listen, we'll back up a

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Speaker 2: little bit. So Patrick Mahomes. There was video of him

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Speaker 2: in the locker room after they beat the Ravens. He's shirtless.

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Speaker 2: I think almost everyone else has a shirt on, and

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Speaker 2: in what is kind of a shocker, Mahomes, who is

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Speaker 2: what twenty eight twenty nine years old, has a dad bot.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not saying he's getting fitted for an

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Speaker 2: there is no semblance of abs, and he's got a

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Speaker 2: I eat older than bat by a considerable amount. Kind

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Speaker 2: of like we can relate to. Wow, that's cool. Mahomes

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Speaker 2: is doing his thing and he's got a dad bob.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. And then of course then the jokes start flying, right.

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Speaker 2: I prefer my quarterback to put down the quarter pounder,

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't want him heavy. And you make

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Speaker 2: a couple jokes or whatever, and it just so happens

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Speaker 2: that one of my jokes must have hit home to

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Speaker 2: someone because they alerted Patrick Mahomes's private trainer or his

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Speaker 2: workout guy, someone named Bobby Straup Stroop. He bills himself

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Speaker 2: as a health, performance and player development consultant for the

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Speaker 2: NBA and Major League Baseball. His profile picture is him

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Speaker 2: and Mahomes working out. And if you, you know, spend

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Speaker 2: some time going in there, you know you could see

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Speaker 2: all these kind of cool workouts that Mahomes does to

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Speaker 2: enhance his pliability and make him more limber. And listen,

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Speaker 2: he's a one, slippery, elusive mf in the pocket. Let's all.

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Speaker 2: We can all admit that. And also, by the way,

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Speaker 2: he's got a little belly on him, ha ha funny.

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Speaker 2: So I make one of my jokes and this character,

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Speaker 2: this Bobby Stroop fellow, who you would think, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you work at a gym and own a gym

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Speaker 2: and a player development blah blah blah, all that you

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised he's sitting here on Twitter to looking for

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Speaker 2: receipts as they liked, as the kids like to say.

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Speaker 2: And this guy decides to tweet at me, boy, you

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Speaker 2: should spend more time. Let me get the exact read

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Speaker 2: on it. You should spend more time focusing on your

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Speaker 2: bad NFL picks. Excuse me, a profitable season if you

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Speaker 2: look closely. I had the Chiefs against the Dolphins. I

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Speaker 2: had the Chiefs against the Bills every which way, including

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Speaker 2: on the money line. It's like, what's going on now? Really?

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Speaker 2: Are you really going to try to play that card?

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Speaker 2: And he went on to say that you're one wrong

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Speaker 2: So I click on his profile and the guy doesn't

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Speaker 2: even follow me. You know what that that's a big

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Speaker 2: bat signal. Doesn't follow you, but claims to know all

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Speaker 2: about your picks and advice and football thoughts. Interesting, So

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Speaker 2: I say that, boy, that's very curious how you found

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Speaker 2: stuff about me, but you don't follow e hmm. You're

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Speaker 2: one of those guys, you know. And those are my

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Speaker 2: favorite guys, right, they're the ones who claim to know

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Speaker 2: nothing about you. They hate you, yet they're your biggest fans.

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Speaker 2: They are thirsty for all your takes. They don't like

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Speaker 2: you at all. They don't follow you. They don't. That's fine,

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Speaker 2: I don't care. I think it's any skin off my back.

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Speaker 2: But yet here they know everything you're saying. They're what

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Speaker 2: they call hate listening. And he says, well, I listened

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Speaker 2: to Colin and whenever you're on the show, I turn

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Speaker 2: it off. Ooh sick burn. Oh no, you turn off

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Speaker 2: our show anytime I open my mouth. Yeah, that's very believable. Totally,

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Speaker 2: and you still know my takes. Listen, dude, I mean Rob,

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Speaker 2: You and I have been back and forth on this

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Speaker 2: after the Super Bowl, the big storyline for us when

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Speaker 2: Mahomes won the Super Bowl last year, beating Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 2: the Herd was, Okay, we're already in Mahomes versus Brady territory,

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Speaker 2: and it's probably gonna be like Jordan Lebron in that

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Speaker 2: it's unlikely Mahomes matches Brady's fifty million Super Bowl rings,

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Speaker 2: but he's probably the better quarterback in terms of agility

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Speaker 2: arm strength, like Brady obviously is the goat. Nobody's taking

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Speaker 2: anything away. They're obviously very different quarterbacks. And just like

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan was a phenomenal basketball player, totally dominated the

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Speaker 2: six and zero in the finals, which everybody thinks makes

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Speaker 2: him the goat. But I've been pretty clear for about

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Speaker 2: two years now that Lebron is the goat, despite not

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Speaker 2: this discussion, I feel like we've had a fifty million times.

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Speaker 2: For me, it's Lebron, even though a lot of people

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Speaker 2: say Jordan's the goat. And it's a healthy debate. You

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Speaker 2: there with Mahomes and Brady. That was my take after

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Speaker 2: he won the Super Bowl. I mean, he's got the MVPs.

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Speaker 2: He's now been in six straight AFC title games, another

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, Like, there's no denying it. Patrick Mahomes is

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Speaker 2: incredible and oh, by the way, you can crack a

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Speaker 2: the way, you can say, you know, Mahomes had the

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Speaker 2: worst season of his career. It's factual now it hasn't

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Speaker 2: meant a whole hell of a lot in the postseason,

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Speaker 2: as he's been totally dominant with seven touchdowns, zero picks

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Speaker 2: like Mahomes has been lights out in the playoffs and

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Speaker 2: Rob and again, I'm not a Patrick Mahon's hater, you listen.

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Speaker 2: I don't spend a lot of time on social media.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this so obviously when I got to do

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Speaker 2: be on social but people will be sending me text,

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Speaker 2: whether it's producers, whether it's Rob friends, sports fans, whatever,

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Speaker 2: about what's happening, breaking news, whatever. And so I'm on

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Speaker 2: social media before the show, During the show, and the

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Speaker 2: second I drive off the Fox lot, I'm usually calling

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Speaker 2: making calls on the way home. Maybe I'll listen to

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Speaker 2: a podcast of Financial or New York Times Daily. I

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Speaker 2: recently listened to the Joe Rogan Taylor Sheridan podcast Taylor

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Speaker 2: Sheridan obviously of Yellowstone Fame. It's an interesting podcast, that's

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Speaker 2: for sure. And I'll call my relatives, my brother, whatever

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Speaker 2: and catch up. I'm not on social media and then

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Speaker 2: if the show tells me, hey, we popped this video

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Speaker 2: of you in Colin, I'm like, okay, I'll jump on

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Speaker 2: social media after the show until like at night, whin

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Speaker 2: And it's not really crap, it's like fun and social

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Speaker 2: media is a drag. I've said it a thousand times

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Speaker 2: on this podcast. I cannot wait to be wealthy enough

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Speaker 2: to not have to have social media. When I hit that,

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Speaker 2: you will know, trust me, you will definitely know. I'll

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Speaker 2: just vanish off Twitter. I don't like it. It's not

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Speaker 2: healthy for your brain. Did you guys see this is

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Speaker 2: small potatoes And I'm sorry rob to go off on

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Speaker 2: a tangent, but did you see the whole Elmo thing

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Speaker 2: Sesame Street character, Yes, Elmo from Sesame Street decided to

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Speaker 2: put this out there and said, hey, everybody, how are

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Speaker 2: the people who buy it, are like, oh my gosh, Elmo,

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Speaker 2: the tone from Mahomes's trainer, that's a guy who runs

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Speaker 2: He's like he You could look at fifteen tweets and

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Speaker 2: when it comes to politics, when it comes to football,

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Speaker 2: weird how Chiefs fans rob have gotten massively defensive about anything.

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Speaker 2: When I hosted The Herd and I said that Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: Look at the number. Is the worst season of his

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Speaker 2: everyone I'm like, okay, well do you want to look

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Speaker 2: at the numbers? No, f the numbers. Patrick Mahomes is

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Speaker 2: the goat. Okay, both things can be true. No, you

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Speaker 2: and there is the influx of oh my gosh, Travis

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Speaker 2: think people hate the Chiefs the way they hated the

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Speaker 2: Patriots at the end. But Rob, maybe you agree with me.

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Speaker 2: I think we're getting kind of sort of close to that,

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Speaker 2: the way Chiefs fans are. I'm not pinning at all

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Speaker 2: I just quickly will address the Cam Newton thing. So yes,

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Speaker 2: Like best rob is very very generic, and I don't

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Speaker 2: even know how. I don't know what you want to

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Speaker 2: use to define best, but I'll let you dealer's choice.

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Speaker 2: How would you define best when you're ranking players on

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Speaker 2: the Niners.

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Speaker 1: Well, first off, yes, I would say that brock party

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Speaker 1: is a top ten player on his team. And I

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Speaker 1: think anybody who was saying differently is being disingenuous. I

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Speaker 1: think that anybody who thinks differently is doing it because,

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Speaker 1: and we've talked about this before, they're using his draft

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Speaker 1: slot against him. Because if this was Trey Lance, if

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Speaker 1: this was Zach Wilson, you know, a guy taken near

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Speaker 1: the top of the draft, there is no question that

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Speaker 1: you're saying this is one of the next great quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in football. Doesn't matter who's around him, doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: his coach looks like. You just look at their production.

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Speaker 1: You look at the plays that he's making. Even on

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Speaker 1: games when he doesn't have his best stuff like we

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Speaker 1: the Detroit when the going gets tough for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: brock Purty comes through. So I don't know how you

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Speaker 1: can say with a straight face that he's not a

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Speaker 1: top ten player on that team, not even in the

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Speaker 1: top ten quarterbacks, the top ten player on the Niners team,

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Speaker 1: unless you already have a preconceived idea of what his

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Speaker 1: ceiling is coming.

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Speaker 2: In, I believe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like I don't understand that. And then you

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Speaker 1: know what's funny is the whole game manager game changer thing.

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Speaker 1: I think you've talked about it before. The whole thing

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Speaker 1: is kind of just based on athleticism for the most part.

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Speaker 1: Like he's Cam Newton, for whatever reason, has decided that

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Speaker 1: if you have any kind of mobility and you're a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: then that automatically makes you a game changer, right, because

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Speaker 1: he during one of his podcasts, he listed the game

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Speaker 1: managers of the past, right, So just as of reference

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Speaker 1: to say that I'm not talking trash about party and

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Speaker 1: Golf and Dak and these guys, because here are the

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Speaker 1: other game managers that I like, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. So you mean to tell me that three

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Speaker 1: of the top ten quarterbacks, arguably three of the top

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Speaker 1: six or seven in NFL history, are nothing special, Cause

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Speaker 1: that's basically what he's saying like he's saying that you're

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Speaker 1: because the definition that he gave in his first rant

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Speaker 1: that went viral was I'm not asking you to throw

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Speaker 1: a touchdown every play. I'm not asking you to leave.

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Speaker 1: I'm just asking you not to turn the ball over.

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, I mean Payne Manning. They kind of

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Speaker 1: asked him to a whole in Anneapolis. Drew Brees, they

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Speaker 1: asked him to do a whole of a lot in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. And Tom Brady obviously, second half his career

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Speaker 1: was the offense point blank period in New England. He

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Speaker 1: was the reason they want you say what you want

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Speaker 1: about the first half of his career when they were

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Speaker 1: defensively led, but the second half it was all Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: And then if you look at the guys that he's

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Speaker 1: named as game changers, now you have Patrick Mahomes. I

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Speaker 1: think that he's the outlier in any conversation we have

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Speaker 1: about quarterbacks because he has both the ability and the

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Speaker 1: winning locked up. But then it's Lamar Jackson, who is

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Speaker 1: a notoriously bad postseason player. There is Aaron Rodgers. I

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Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is one game above five

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Speaker 1: hundred in the postseason, and he has a losing record

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Speaker 1: since the Super Bowl. Joe Burrow, who has a lower

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Speaker 1: passer rating in the postseason than Brock Purdy. People don't

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Speaker 1: know that I like Joe Burry. I'm a big fan

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Speaker 1: of Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow's lower Josh Allen, who, for

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Speaker 1: all of his superman abilities and the numbers that he

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Speaker 1: can put up, the consensus with him seems to be

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Speaker 1: that Josh Allen giveth Josh Allen taketh away because he's

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Speaker 1: just as likely to throw a forty yard missile in

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Speaker 1: between three defenders for a touchdown as he's to throw

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Speaker 1: an inexplicable interception. So the guys that he identified as

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Speaker 1: the game changers, like, the only one that you can

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Speaker 1: say right now definitively is better than Brock Purdy depending

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Speaker 1: on what you're looking for, is Patrick Mahomes. It's just

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Speaker 1: that they're asked to do different things.

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Speaker 2: The Burrow one's interesting, does he fall under game manager

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Speaker 2: or game changer?

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Speaker 1: He lists him as a game changer.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, he's athletic. He was like a big time AAU

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Speaker 2: basketball player. I mean, I guess you could say Jamoar Chase.

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Speaker 2: It essentially you're right. It comes down to athleticism. I

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Speaker 2: guess the brock Purty scrambles there in the second Africans

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Speaker 2: the Lions were not enough impressive enough for him. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Cam Newton tough crowd anyway. So next week we will

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Speaker 2: have some guests to talk about the Super Bowl, some

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Speaker 2: in I guess, some inside football stuff to try to

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Speaker 2: help you. Gambling, prop bets, all that fun stuff. That's

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Speaker 2: it for the week. We are back on Monday, Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl Week. Get ready to get crunk. Talk to you then,