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Speaker 2: The Worlds of Vegetal podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. But

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Speaker 2: the big scandal down there is kandava.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Can someone please mention the outrageous flirting that occurred during

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Speaker 2: Mike's chat with Cynthia Freeland. There might be in Boston,

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Speaker 2: but it's hot in India.

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Speaker 4: She was hugging it out with everybody.

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Speaker 5: I first want to ask how we of the combine?

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Speaker 5: Did you guys have a gal?

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Speaker 2: We just talked about its story because he was one

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Speaker 2: and I didn't have tsa god, so I'm in a

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Speaker 2: different line, and but I'm watching him. They were making

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Speaker 2: him show just a little bit more than he expected.

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Speaker 2: And the harrim thing that was going on. What circles

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Speaker 2: does Fred run in when trying to think of something

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Speaker 2: widely loved or celebrating that.

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Speaker 1: You don't like.

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Speaker 2: He came up with zucchini, palm, Why are you ordering zucchini?

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Speaker 2: But saying, oh, that's right, that's what I got it

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Speaker 6: That Oh that that makes it so much better.

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Speaker 3: But as we learned, I wasn't here Thursday, Mike, because

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Speaker 3: I was at a funeral.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 2: at j Let's Stadium, and there's a lot to talk about,

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Speaker 2: not a lot of it having to do with the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: but some of it. Some big news yesterday and then

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Speaker 2: what that all means. It's Paul, it's Evan, it's Deuce,

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Speaker 2: it's Me, it's Matt, and the booth and free agency

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Speaker 2: is here. Basically, it's the new league. Season hasn't kicked

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Speaker 2: off yet, but moves are being made, Trades are being made.

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Speaker 2: Things are happening, players are moving around, and the question

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Speaker 2: is how much of it will the Patriots be involved in?

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Speaker 2: So let's let's get right into it. Eight five to

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Speaker 2: five Pass five hundred is the Hotline podcast at Patriots

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Speaker 2: dot com as the email address the pay. The Patriots

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Speaker 2: didn't announce anything yesterday, but there's a report that is

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Speaker 2: pretty substantial that they have notified Stefan Diggs that they

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Speaker 2: will release him once the league year opens up next week.

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Speaker 2: So that's the Patriots news.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and you're seeing Digs shout out to teammates and

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Speaker 8: that is a correct report, not surprising. I mean, I

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Speaker 8: think you knew that that the Stefan Diggs thing was

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Speaker 4: I mean, you needed a reliable guy.

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Speaker 8: For Drake May in his second season, coming into you know,

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Speaker 4: You needed a leader in that room and you just

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Speaker 8: And I thought he did an outstanding job, he said,

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Speaker 4: But I think you know this signals they're gonna maybe.

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Speaker 8: Take a half step back to try to take two

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Speaker 8: But I think it talking to the guys, I think

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Speaker 2: Even if they kept Diggs, they still needed one.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they need now the guy probably if they kept Diggs.

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Speaker 2: this closes the book on Stefan Diggs, because Okay, they're

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Speaker 9: The question is is it still on the table? Why

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Speaker 2: Aj Berry both we just well, no, I said it,

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Speaker 9: Right, but now they're already paid that other like the

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Speaker 9: So if they go out and give twenty eight million

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Speaker 2: Do you know the budget? Like, do you know that

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Speaker 10: I'm not saying they can't.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely could do it, right, I'm just saying that I

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Speaker 10: That's all. I'm not saying they can't do it.

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Speaker 2: and he says, you know what, I liked it there

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Speaker 4: I mean, he already unfollowed on Instagram, so it's kind

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Speaker 2: But these guys, I mean, really they're very impulsive.

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Speaker 3: I never say never on these things. I would be

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Speaker 3: this is as close to never. I don't see that happening.

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Speaker 4: Market will be like though, That I think is the question.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I can only see that happening if nobody really

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Speaker 1: I want that.

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Speaker 3: I don't like that nobody will want him at all.

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Speaker 6: Paul, No, No, at any price.

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Speaker 2: I didn't say that, But what I said, what if

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Speaker 10: I just don't know why you think you would take that?

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Speaker 2: Really well, I just don't know why the offer.

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Speaker 9: I don't think the offer from the Patriots would still

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Speaker 1: But don't you.

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Speaker 2: Don't you think they made the offer in mind that

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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know why would because I don't think

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Speaker 2: What you're saying is like, if he accepted the offer

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Speaker 9: No, what I'm saying is that they're not gonna then.

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Speaker 9: that there's a difference between we're done at wide receiver

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Speaker 2: I don't I would hope they'd be a little bit

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Speaker 8: But you're saying, and there's an offer, I mean, do

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Speaker 6: There's a couple of things that we don't know.

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Speaker 3: And I know what the writers are writing is that

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Speaker 6: I have a lot of skepticism for that. I think

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Speaker 3: Do with agreed the age and sort of the I

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Speaker 6: Is that a polite way to put it. It's been a

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Speaker 3: I think the Patriots hit a home run with Stefan

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Speaker 6: What There's a chance that he's matured.

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Speaker 3: He'll be thirty three, and maybe he has sort of

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Speaker 3: I think that They probably looked at it as much

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Speaker 3: they didn't want to give him twenty million, So what

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Speaker 2: Well, what if it was, like we talked about this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not taken that right, Yeah, like not when

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Speaker 9: I just think, you know, we've heard a lot about

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Speaker 9: the money, and I understand that that's usually the biggest

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Speaker 9: thing here. I think all kind of hit on it there.

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Speaker 9: I think that there's a lot that goes into the

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Speaker 9: Stefan Diggs experience and know a lot, and I think

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Speaker 9: last year we saw some of it. They were able

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Speaker 9: in spite of it. But at the end of the

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Speaker 9: And he was always here for a good time, not

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Speaker 9: a long time. He was always a bridge to when

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Speaker 9: we're gonna hammer down and solidified, like who's Drake May's

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Speaker 8: Everything, Sorry, Paul, I just thought to me, is everything

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Speaker 8: it's through the Drake lens of giving Drake him and

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Speaker 6: But maybe maybe he doesn't, and I would.

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Speaker 9: I just don't like looking at it like that either,

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Speaker 9: And so it's not like I don't know where he

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Speaker 9: the guy that can move the chance and if that

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Speaker 10: Like I don't even think A. J. Brown is really

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Speaker 9: Like AJ Brown, I think is also still more down

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Speaker 6: I have a little talk we.

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Speaker 2: You know? And so is there anyone on the roster

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Speaker 8: I mean, not that they'd have to be a significant jump,

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Speaker 4: It's the attention he's pulling.

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Speaker 4: Henry is the second and we know he's you know,

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Speaker 8: So those are the two biggest reliable pieces for Drake

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Speaker 8: May last year. They're gonna have to find reliable pieces

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Speaker 3: So thing with Pierce to Freddy, and I know if

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Speaker 6: I agree with these guys.

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Speaker 3: I think Pierce probably would not just transform into your

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Speaker 6: I think it'd be a great.

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Speaker 2: You'll see comparisons, believe it or not, to Milton Williams

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Speaker 6: I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 8: They're the new heart of the offense in your passing

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Speaker 8: There will be more expectations of him as the top

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Speaker 4: I mean it's intriguing with Drake.

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Speaker 8: I mean, team's got to focus on john especially early

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Speaker 2: Special, But they they've got some so I can understand

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Speaker 6: I actually think he's going to be back.

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Speaker 9: I I think that that The Colts, to me, like,

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Speaker 10: The transition tagging Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I didn't know that there was

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Speaker 3: Evidently Pierce wanted to make sure before he signed with

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Speaker 3: bought time to get the contract done and then said this,

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Speaker 3: this is we're going to retain what you know, because

444
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Speaker 3: now that takes away the pressure of Pierce leaving.

445
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you know, no, no, no, we're going to

446
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,960
Speaker 6: be signed Jones too. We're just we're hammering out the

447
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Speaker 6: structure and give.

448
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Speaker 9: Us this is I mean, that regime, that brain trust

449
00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,160
Speaker 9: there is already kind of on thin ice. And if

450
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Speaker 9: they lose Al Pearson free agency and Daniel Jones isn't

451
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Speaker 9: a franchise quarterback, Gordon's.

452
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Speaker 3: Coming in hot anytime gets a free agency, as Bill

453
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Speaker 3: would say, you have to be prepared to lose him.

454
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely.

455
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Speaker 3: You know, like I know that Indy probably thinks that

456
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Speaker 3: they are in a decent spot, but they're running no guarantee.

457
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Speaker 2: Coming off Achilles, and so I think I think it's

458
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Speaker 2: one of Evans guys. Jordan Schultz, somewhere between altercations that

459
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Speaker 2: reported that the Patriots had made an offer for a J.

460
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Speaker 1: Brown.

461
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Speaker 9: He's he's said that they they are preparing to be

462
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Speaker 9: very aggressive at the top of the wide receiver market

463
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 9: next week. Whether that's all a Pierce a J. Brown trade, whatever,

464
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 9: but he he made it sound like they're ready to

465
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Speaker 9: throw some money around at one of these top receivers

466
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Speaker 9: and and make something happen. So uh well, see, I

467
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Speaker 9: wonder how much of all of this too, Like Al

468
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 9: Pierce was not supposed to hit the open market, like

469
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Speaker 9: receivers of that caliber don't normally hit the open market.

470
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Speaker 2: On my back of the envelope, remember, I.

471
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Speaker 10: Was reminded of that at the time.

472
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Speaker 8: But Fred like second or third second?

473
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Speaker 2: They both three picks after that was funny.

474
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Speaker 4: He was on the back of the envelope.

475
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Speaker 3: Right, it was it was the three right, it was

476
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Speaker 3: the three guys and sky Moore?

477
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Speaker 2: Is you wanted to see what you're you're forgetting to?

478
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Speaker 2: This is once I announced my back of the envelope.

479
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Speaker 4: So are you going to get agency contract?

480
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Speaker 2: You get a lot of tastes around marketing, but I

481
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Speaker 2: don't get any of the futures. The future by okay, that.

482
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Speaker 4: Was a little glimpse in a Paul's computer broom.

483
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Speaker 8: We had a little quiz today on the ninety six

484
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Speaker 8: Patriots Paul plant just about I think I would say

485
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Speaker 8: ten of sixteen on order of the ninety six Patriots

486
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Speaker 8: season and the scores, Like.

487
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Speaker 6: The ask me the scores last year. I'm telling you

488
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Speaker 6: I couldn't do it.

489
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Speaker 4: I was impressive. I don't know if there's anything so

490
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Speaker 4: when did.

491
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Speaker 2: They kick in or you know, I don't know. It's

492
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Speaker 2: so like, is there some point where a year.

493
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Speaker 1: I remember.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, now I know.

495
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Speaker 8: Oh my god, if you asked me to go through

496
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Speaker 8: the last Patriots season, I probably would struggle.

497
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Speaker 3: I don't think I could give you the scores and

498
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 3: don't I don't know what happened yesterday. Give you the

499
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 3: first three anything after that, and then I can give

500
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Speaker 3: you the ANFC Championship game was ten seven.

501
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Speaker 6: That's about it. I don't even remember the score of

502
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Speaker 6: that Super Bowl.

503
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

504
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Speaker 2: Well at the.

505
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Speaker 4: I left after I was walking out.

506
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Speaker 2: All right. So the wide receiver situation is a situation

507
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Speaker 2: for the New England Patriots right now.

508
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Speaker 3: So at the risk of sounding like a you know,

509
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,239
Speaker 3: like we work for Patriots dot com. Oh, they have

510
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 3: to say that I am really on board with the move.

511
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: I think this was the right move to make. I

512
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 3: know Mike is thrilled because he never wanted the guy

513
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Speaker 3: in the first plis he won me over. And I'll

514
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 3: have to say, as long as there's a plan, I'm

515
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Speaker 3: on board.

516
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Speaker 6: That was the part.

517
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Speaker 3: Be like, I think they needed more than Diggs to

518
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 3: start with, and I've seen a lot of well, now

519
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 3: this opens up this and they have all the cap

520
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: space and they can do that. They've also created another

521
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Speaker 3: hole right, they've also created another because even though I

522
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 3: think it was the right move to move on from Diggs,

523
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Speaker 3: Diggs was everything that everybody has said about his impact

524
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Speaker 3: on the offense last.

525
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Speaker 6: Year, All of that is true.

526
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Speaker 3: I saw one person say it was highly unlikely he's

527
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Speaker 3: going to duplicate a season like that. Why he just

528
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Speaker 3: did that coming off of torn acl He's only thirty three.

529
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Speaker 6: It's not like he's forty three.

530
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Speaker 3: Like, it's not reasonable to expect him to have another

531
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Speaker 3: good season too, right, Like, I mean again, long term,

532
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Speaker 3: I love this move for the Patriots. I think this

533
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: makes all all the sense in the world with the Patriots.

534
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 3: He did exactly what Mike.

535
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Speaker 6: Rabel could have prayed that he would do for him,

536
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 6: and they cut ties and they let him go. I

537
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Speaker 6: think that's perfectly reasonable. But you've created another hole, right, Yeah.

538
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Speaker 9: I just think that this is probably since Brady left,

539
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 9: the most desirable the Patriots have been for a wide

540
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Speaker 9: receiver and play here. So I think you're in a

541
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Speaker 9: much different position. Last year, they just needed to get.

542
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Speaker 3: A star receiving someone to say yes, right, and he

543
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Speaker 3: was the one, the only one that did right.

544
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Speaker 9: And now I think that I wouldn't say, pick of

545
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Speaker 9: the litter. There's probably a little strong, but I think

546
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Speaker 9: that they are a contender for pretty much every big

547
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Speaker 9: name receiver that hits the market, whether it's trade or

548
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Speaker 9: free agency, because you have Drake May, you have cap Space,

549
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Speaker 9: and you have Mike Rabel and like you are a draw,

550
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Speaker 9: you are a draw to one of these guys, like

551
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Speaker 9: if you're Alec Pierce, Like, I can't think of a

552
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Speaker 9: better scenario for somebody like Ali Pierce with his skill

553
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Speaker 9: set to come play with this quarterback, like right, and

554
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 9: you know a J Brown, same thing.

555
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: I know AJ Brown.

556
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Speaker 6: It seems like it's kind of a J Brown or bust.

557
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 3: And that's fine, But I I I I only disagree

558
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Speaker 3: with that because I don't think that there was ever

559
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Speaker 3: a thought that Alt Pierce was actually going to hit

560
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Speaker 3: the open market, because receivers, like I was saying earlier

561
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Speaker 3: that caliber do not usually hit.

562
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Speaker 2: On Rather Brown Pierce pierers Yeah, because I love you,

563
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Speaker 2: But because he's younger and you don't have to give

564
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: up the assets, his fit is clear better right now.

565
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think Brown that one's going to come

566
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Speaker 6: back and hot me.

567
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Speaker 3: Brown is a vastly superior player like his career career wise,

568
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Speaker 3: not not even close. No, no comparison right now today,

569
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 3: I think Pierce is a better player than Brown.

570
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Speaker 8: The things move though, to me, I think two weeks

571
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 8: ago said there's a lot of hard decisions to make,

572
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Speaker 8: and you know, do you want guys who are pretty

573
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Speaker 8: good for you back or do you want to try

574
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Speaker 8: to be better? And this to me signals like they

575
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Speaker 8: understan that and they're going to make some tough decisions

576
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:01,959
Speaker 8: this year.

577
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Speaker 4: They're willing to take a little bit of a step

578
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 4: back to this concept.

579
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: The young guy. Where's he slated to go.

580
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Speaker 9: Back into the first round? I mean, I think thirty

581
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 9: one is probably is floor.

582
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: So do you want to use thirty one on a

583
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: guy like that? Or do you want to use it

584
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: when someone who might make a more immediate impact?

585
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: Oh?

586
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 10: I think he's going to make immediate impact?

587
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: Oh you do?

588
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, It's not a project.

589
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I thought we thought that he is going

590
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Speaker 2: to be a learning.

591
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Speaker 10: Curve, well for any receiver.

592
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, unless unless an edge that you totally

593
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Speaker 8: are enamored with. I'm on board with at that pick.

594
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 8: What helps Drake the most? Is it going to be

595
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 8: a developmental right?

596
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: Tackle?

597
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 4: Probably not at that spot.

598
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: About that, you know, the best guard.

599
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Speaker 4: I mean you look at it.

600
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Speaker 10: And pregnant on Yeah, I mean you can make a

601
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Speaker 10: case for it, know, but.

602
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 3: You've got a chance to get a weapon next to

603
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Speaker 3: Evan Lazar if they take another guard.

604
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Speaker 2: I don't take the right guard this time left guard.

605
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Speaker 9: I've come around to it like a little bit and

606
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Speaker 9: just like the respect that like it's probably one of

607
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Speaker 9: the most glaring holes on the team. But it wasn't

608
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Speaker 9: twenty two too, and they just butchered it, so like

609
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 9: just pick a right like.

610
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 10: Put the good guard not. I didn't need not the

611
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 10: ut Chattanooga won no offense.

612
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Speaker 3: Like I feel bad for Cold Strange because my my

613
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: iy are with the pick had nothing to do with

614
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Speaker 3: who they picked. It was the position and everybody else

615
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 3: was like Cold Strange Chatternooga. Like to me, it was

616
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Speaker 3: just like guard first round.

617
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Speaker 10: I mean it was a combination of the two things.

618
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Speaker 6: No and then like storm of crap yeah you know, yeah.

619
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Speaker 9: But I think in order to set yourself up to

620
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Speaker 9: take a guard, you have to do a lot in

621
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Speaker 9: free agency, Like they would have to check a lot

622
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Speaker 9: of boxes in free agency to put themselves in a

623
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Speaker 9: position to have the flexibility to.

624
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Speaker 10: Take a guard to you.

625
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is kind of branching out. I know,

626
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 3: we get a lot of other things to talk about,

627
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Speaker 3: but your whole thing about the whole veteran guard. Yeah,

628
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: you just freed up another few million in cap space.

629
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Speaker 3: Use it on one of the many veteran guards that

630
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Speaker 3: are available in free agency.

631
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Speaker 9: There's like half a dozen of these guys at varying

632
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Speaker 9: you know, price points, even if you don't want to

633
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 9: spend a ton of money on it because you're thinking

634
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 9: that you're going to turn it over to a younger

635
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 9: player eventually, like even a guy like Dylan Parhum, like

636
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 9: who played for McDaniels in Vegas.

637
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 3: It's like eight guards available in free agency that I

638
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: know who they are.

639
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 6: I don't know any of the alignment.

640
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in love with that idea.

641
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 8: And just you know something immediately you can do right now,

642
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 8: within the next week, to say we've added a really

643
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 8: good player to this offensive line. How's it all going

644
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 8: to play out? We don't have to figure it out

645
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 8: right now, but we know that we've already improved from

646
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 8: a month ago.

647
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 9: It reminds me of just a lot of them signing

648
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 9: Bradbury and Moses last offseason, where it doesn't put you

649
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 9: into a place where you have to start a rookie

650
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 9: in that spot or a young player. At least you

651
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 9: have somebody that's played the position before, that has experienced,

652
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 9: that has a resume in the league, Whereas like if

653
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 9: they draft another guard in the second or third round

654
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 9: and they're just throwing the dart and hoping that it

655
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Speaker 9: sticks in the training camp.

656
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 4: Like a stock.

657
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Speaker 8: They've they've thrown a lot of those starts in recent years,

658
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 8: you know, the City shows of the World, the Leyden

659
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 8: Robinson's the World.

660
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 4: It's it's been hard to find, but I I love

661
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 4: that move.

662
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Speaker 8: And then you know you're continuing to build that leadership

663
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Speaker 8: because a lot of people have Jared Wilson mark for

664
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 8: that center spot. A lot of people have no Morgan

665
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 8: Moses is what thirty four to thirty five, he's going

666
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 8: to be aging out.

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Speaker 4: You know, maybe you bridge the gap a little bit with.

668
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Speaker 8: That leadership by getting you know, left guard who's a

669
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Speaker 8: veteran as.

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Speaker 4: Well, and he can bridge the gap. Draft the right

671
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Speaker 4: tackle of the future and you've got some stability.

672
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Speaker 2: All right. So what are some of the other stories

673
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: around the league that's going on in terms of trades,

674
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Speaker 2: trades to the Rocky So Paul, before the show, you

675
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Speaker 2: were saying how you don't like what Kansas City did. Well,

676
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Speaker 2: if you were a fan of Kansas City, you wouldn't

677
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Speaker 2: like that, and you wouldn't like what the Bills are

678
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Speaker 2: doing or did Oh.

679
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Speaker 3: I don't hate what the Bills did, but I think

680
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 3: they need more than Dj Moore. The Bills reportedly have

681
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: reached an agreement to acquire DJ Moore from Chicago for

682
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Speaker 3: a mid round pick.

683
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Speaker 6: That's the only compensation I've seen.

684
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Speaker 3: The Kansas City one, to me is a continuation of

685
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Speaker 3: what I've seen from the Chiefs in the Mahomes era,

686
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Speaker 3: whereas they're allowing good players to get to contract time

687
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: and lee and it's it. You know, this is it

688
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: seems like they're cornerbacks in particular.

689
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Speaker 5: Now.

690
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Speaker 3: Maybe they're just so confident in their ability to draft

691
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: and develop corners because they've done.

692
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Speaker 6: It reasonably well.

693
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: But Lugerious Sneid went, looks like Jalen Watson's gonna go now.

694
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 6: Trent McDuffie.

695
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Speaker 3: They traded to the Rams for four picks, including the

696
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Speaker 3: twenty ninth overall, which is I mean that, would you

697
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: trade Gonzales for the twenty ninth overall pick right now?

698
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't.

699
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Speaker 6: No, so so well.

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Speaker 3: They're very comparable. They're both All pros. Actually, McDuffie's been

701
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Speaker 3: a first team All Pro and.

702
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 9: McDuffie's more of like a tackles better, more of like

703
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Speaker 9: a playmaker in that regard.

704
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Speaker 10: But in terms of cover talent.

705
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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm like semantics.

706
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Speaker 3: I'm just saying I wouldn't trade Gonzales right now for

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Speaker 3: the twenty ninth overall pick.

708
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Speaker 6: Kansas City just did.

709
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Speaker 3: And yeah, I know they got a few other picks,

710
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: but it's basically for a first.

711
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Speaker 6: Round pick, and I just think it's hill.

712
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: You know, one of these guys all over against some

713
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: of them individually, you could say, oh that made sense.

714
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 6: So that made sense. This made sense. They basically reacted

715
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Speaker 6: Chris Jones, who they.

716
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Speaker 3: Made the highest paid, I believe, the highest paid defensive

717
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: player in football when he signed his deal in Mahomes

718
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: and I just said, let it Patrick, you figure it out.

719
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: And now Evan's got a theory that maybe they don't

720
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Speaker 3: even think that Mahomes is going to play this year,

721
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: and they're just completely punting on the season. I would

722
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 3: hate that. If I were Kansas City, I would despise it.

723
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Speaker 3: There's no reason why Mahomes can't be ready to go,

724
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 3: just like everybody else that comes back in six months

725
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: instead of twelve months from these serious injuries. Why you

726
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 3: would go into a season and take one of your

727
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: better players and just trade them for just you know,

728
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: draft capital. I think it's a continuation that Kansas City

729
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: thinks Mahomes can fix all their problems and they don't

730
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Speaker 3: have to spend money. So I think that's a really

731
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Speaker 3: good there's a long way of me saying I think

732
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Speaker 3: it's a good development for the Patriots. Yeah, it's a

733
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: major hurdle in your conference that I don't think is

734
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 3: as good as it should be.

735
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Speaker 8: I mean, really, Rams one of the two best teams

736
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 8: all year, they had a really good player in their secondary.

737
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Speaker 8: I mean, they're going to be another tough, tough out

738
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 8: long as Matthew Stafford's stays or about that.

739
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Speaker 10: In the Super Bowl news what else?

740
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, No, I think that you either way, we're on

741
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 9: the same page of this is good news for the Patriots.

742
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 10: I just I think Trent McDuffie's.

743
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 9: An awesome player, and I just look at it and say,

744
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 9: Mahomes is hurt in the middle of December. It wasn't

745
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 9: like Diggs was hurt in October when he tore his

746
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 9: acl Like this is it's not as much of a

747
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 9: runway that he has here to be ready for the

748
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 9: start of next season. I just look at what Kansas

749
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 9: City's doing the year they're coming off of, and I'm like,

750
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Speaker 9: do do they really feel like they're going to be

751
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 9: able to compete next year even if Mahomes comes back

752
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 9: at some point in the season. I just wonder if

753
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 9: they're looking at it as a long term play of

754
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 9: we're not really gonna be going for it next year,

755
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 9: so let's just load up on draft capital and have

756
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 9: a bunch of draft picks for twenty twenty seven that

757
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 9: we can kind of push everything in the middle.

758
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: For So, I guess Kyler Murray has been told he's

759
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: going to be released, and I don't know if he's

760
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: been told yet, but the rumor is that Tua is

761
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: going to be released from Miami as well. Where do

762
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: these guys land?

763
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Speaker 3: So I have a question for you on the whole

764
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Speaker 3: is going to be released thing? Why do you think

765
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: they don't just release the players.

766
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Speaker 2: I think they tell him now because so that they

767
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: can get a head start on talking to people. But

768
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Speaker 2: I think there's something about the league year financially that

769
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Speaker 2: makes the difference.

770
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Speaker 3: No, but my the reason it has to happen before

771
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Speaker 3: they started. Like Stefan Diggs specifically, I believe on the

772
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Speaker 3: thirteenth is the eleventh, the first day of the I

773
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: think it's the thirteenth. These dude like six million, eight

774
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: six more million of his contract gets becomes guaranteed. So

775
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: obviously I understand why the Patriots want to release him

776
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Speaker 3: before that date because they don't want to be on

777
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Speaker 3: the hook for more guaranteed.

778
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Speaker 2: Why not just do it now?

779
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really know what precludes them from just

780
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: releasing a player.

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Speaker 2: Counting also, if you retain him and somebody swoops in

782
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: and wants to do a trade, you still have leverage.

783
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: Well that's why Miami's not going to trade. I'm not

784
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: going to just release to it because they're hoping, you know,

785
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: probably beyond hope that someone comes in and says, well, yeah,

786
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: we don't want to fight the rest of the league.

787
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 3: We'll give you something and well, you know, we'll pay

788
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: some of the salary away, so.

789
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: You'll let it out there that you're going to get

790
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: rid of them. So teams are now, yeah, that's probably

791
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: the answer. Is they hope and someone comes to them

792
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Speaker 2: and makes an offer. Us.

793
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Speaker 9: I feel like there's a pretty good chance that Kyler

794
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 9: Murray's playing in the AFCAS next year.

795
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: Well does he go to Miami or the Jets?

796
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Speaker 9: I mean, there's really only two places where he has

797
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 9: a clear path to start, you know, the other places

798
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 9: he would at least be competing with somebody, uh, you know, Minnesota,

799
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Speaker 9: Like I keep hearing that one, but like they're at

800
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Speaker 9: least going to give JJ McCarthy the start of the season.

801
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Speaker 6: Are you're assuming Rogers goes back.

802
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Speaker 3: That's the only one that because I mean, I think

803
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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh got in Cleveland. I think there's a lot of

804
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: teams that he would clearly be the starter for. I

805
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: I don't Murray, I don't think that that sounds the

806
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: way that Cleveland's going like Cleveland is making it sound

807
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 3: like Deshaun Watson's in play for them right now.

808
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 10: Pittsburgh, I'm with you. If Aaron Rodgers doesn't go.

809
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: Back back then that would change it, right, I mean,

810
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: I assume that he's going to do.

811
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 9: He doesn't know yet, but I keep hearing Minnesota, which

812
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 9: I have to think JJ McCarthy is going to at

813
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 9: least get the start of the season to try to

814
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 9: see if he can put it together.

815
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 10: Like it's pretty early. But Atlanta, Atlanta is the other one.

816
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: But he's at least competing with Pennix, like it's I

817
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 3: don't think they're just going to hand him the job

818
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: or even like, you know, back to Indy. You know,

819
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: is you know, if Daniel Jones's Achilles isn't.

820
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 9: Ready, great, a great system fit. But I don't like

821
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 9: they seem so in love with Daniel Jones that but is.

822
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 3: He going to be I mean, if I mean, if

823
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 3: we are not assuming that Mahomes is going to be ready,

824
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: we're going to assume on a much more serious.

825
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 6: Age that Daniel Jones is going to be ready.

826
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Speaker 3: And again he's probably either way, he's only signing a

827
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: one year deal more than likely.

828
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 9: Well, I mean it's the offset language, right, So he's

829
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 9: gonna sign a one year deal for the minimimum. Yeah, No,

830
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 9: I that's a good one. I I just clean is past.

831
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 9: It is the Jets and the Dolphins like they're the

832
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 9: ones that have glaring open like starting quarterback jobs that

833
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 9: are available. It feels very Jets are Dolphins to me,

834
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 9: like that they always go for like some veteran with

835
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 9: the name would make some.

836
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: Sense, you know, for Kyler Murray to go to Miami

837
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: and you know, and have a guy like Jalen Waddle

838
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 3: to throw to, you know, an h hand in the backfield.

839
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: There's at least a semblance of something there. In to

840
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: Evan's point, he's gonna be the quarterback. It's not gonna

841
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: He's not gonna lose out to Quinn yours.

842
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 4: You know, God think conversations.

843
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, talk yourself into two is to my benefit

844
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 3: from like a Minnesota thing. You know, let me go there,

845
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 3: get with Kevin O'Connell. Maybe I had a chance to

846
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: resurrect my career again with great weapons.

847
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 6: You know, I don't know.

848
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: Does Mac Jones end up anywhere?

849
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 6: I think he's going to have a market. Looks like

850
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 6: he doesn't. According to jeremy.

851
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 10: Follower, I think he's gonna have a trade.

852
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 3: There's been no real market developing. The Green Bay kid too,

853
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 3: Willis is going to go somewhere.

854
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 4: It's a tough quarterback market. It's hard to talk yourself

855
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 4: into any of these guys.

856
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: I mean, a lot of people thank Miami for Willis.

857
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

858
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 6: I'm not sold on the lake Willis.

859
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: Chris writes in can we please stop with Alec Pierce?

860
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: He's not a game changer. His most productive year came

861
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: in a year where the Colts had a top two

862
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: run game in the league, and even at that, he

863
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: just barely passed a thousand yards. He's Taekwon Thornton on

864
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: a team with a run game, in.

865
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Speaker 3: My opinion, have a thousand career yards now.

866
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Speaker 2: In my opinion, He's not even remotely close to the

867
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: player thirty two year old Diggs is. So I'm curious.

868
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: I'm curious why a lot of people are acting like

869
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 2: he's a legitimate replacement. I'm okay if he's the number two,

870
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: but him alone doesn't move the needle at all.

871
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 4: It moves the needle for me.

872
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 9: Replacing Peers with like Kayshawn Booty and Mac Collins without

873
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 9: Peers doesn't move the needle. Like he's a much better

874
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 9: player than those two guys. I mean, no disrespect, but like.

875
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: We're going to get into semantics and stuff and replacing

876
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: dig He's a completely different player than Diggs. He's not

877
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 3: gonna if you're looking for him to get that kind

878
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 3: of volume, then you're going to be disappointed. Yes, But

879
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 3: to say that he's he's not a difference maker. When

880
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: he averaged he led the league in yards per catch

881
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: and is like a thousand yard it's not like he

882
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: averaged twenty five yards per catch and had four hundred yards,

883
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: which you know, like Chris Hogan.

884
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: Used to do.

885
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: This is the guy who read a thousand yards and

886
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Speaker 3: led the league in yards per catch. It was only

887
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 3: like whatever twenty somebody he had the same year that

888
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 3: Dicks did on half the catches.

889
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 4: He's led the lead in yards perception the last two years.

890
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 6: Two years. Yeah, he's the definition of a difference maker.

891
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 9: I just think it's differ and we get into this

892
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 9: semantics argument. I get, but we're so attached to that

893
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 9: wide receiver one thing. Yeah, and it's just like and

894
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 9: we just unders he's an outside receiver that takes the

895
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Speaker 9: top off. So like now on his side of the field,

896
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 9: that safety has to respect the fact that he can

897
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 9: run by both guys really on that side of the field,

898
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Speaker 9: Like it just it changes the equation of how you're

899
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Speaker 9: defended more so than it maybe is, Like is he

900
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Speaker 9: in the Jamar Chase justin Jefferson here? No, but I

901
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 9: think that he's a He changes how you are being

902
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 9: game planned against because of his speat.

903
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Speaker 8: It's simple math to me. You have the most accurate

904
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 8: downfield front quarterback in the league and the most the

905
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 8: more prolific downfield receiver is now available. You know, when

906
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 8: Paul was talking about we were saying the match that

907
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 8: that is reminded me a little bit about when the

908
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Speaker 8: Brady when they got Welker for Brady, where it was

909
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Speaker 8: you know, is Welker number one?

910
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Speaker 2: No?

911
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 8: But his skill set fit Brady so much that you

912
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Speaker 8: knew that Brady's going to see every defense, He's going

913
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Speaker 8: to put Welker right into the right position, and he's

914
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Speaker 8: going to complete one hundred and fifty passes to him,

915
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Speaker 8: and that's exactly what happened.

916
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Speaker 3: I would agree with the emailer is if you know,

917
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Speaker 3: if you if you just got Pierce and you just

918
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Speaker 3: decided that okay, you're probably going to be disappointed based

919
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Speaker 3: on what it's going to cost you and the way

920
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Speaker 3: you know, there's.

921
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Speaker 6: The offense would still be lacking something.

922
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would agree with all that that reservation,

923
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: but the emailer, I'm on board with you.

924
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Speaker 9: I mean, the ideal scenario would have been pairing Peers

925
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 9: with Digs. And obviously Digs the situation just was what

926
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 9: it was and they're moving on. But to pair him

927
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Speaker 9: with somebody like Diggs that's going to be that inside

928
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Speaker 9: guy that's going to move the chains and wait underneath.

929
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Speaker 9: It's obviously not at that level, but it's it's Welker

930
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Speaker 9: and Moss right. It's having a guy underneath and over

931
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Speaker 9: the middle and a guy over the top. And with

932
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Speaker 9: Drake May's ability to throw the ball deep, teams are

933
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Speaker 9: going to have to respect the fact that he has

934
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Speaker 9: out piers on the outside.

935
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Speaker 4: Now, what do you guys think is harder to find?

936
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Speaker 1: Though?

937
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 4: Like, what would you rather do?

938
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Speaker 8: Would you rather feel like you have a chain mover

939
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 8: that Drake has trust in and you have to kind

940
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 8: of find the deep threat or would you feel better

941
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Speaker 8: about we've.

942
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Speaker 4: Got to guy who can take the top off.

943
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Speaker 8: Hopefully that opens things up and means opportunities for us

944
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Speaker 8: to find someone underneath to be the chain mover. Like,

945
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Speaker 8: what is the harder of those two roles to find

946
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Speaker 8: and which would you rather.

947
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Speaker 9: I would say the Chane mover because he made MATC

948
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 9: Collins and Kishon Booty viable deep threats just because of

949
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 9: how good he is. So like, even though that might

950
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 9: not be the ceiling of what that role could be

951
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 9: in the offense, they still got a thousand yards combined

952
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 9: from those two guys because he's so good.

953
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

954
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 9: So like, I think the chain mover thing too, Like

955
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 9: in Josh mcdaniels's offense, that's.

956
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Speaker 10: A really important role.

957
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 9: And Josh McDaniels talks a lot about getting like the

958
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 9: first first down of a drive and you know, keeping

959
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 9: the offense on schedule and moving you know, the offense

960
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 9: down the field. These are all things that a Diggs does.

961
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 9: And I think even though Drake May's skill set might

962
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 9: lend itself more to the deep ball guy, the offense

963
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 9: lends itself more to the digs kind of player.

964
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: This might just be sort of anecdotal and not necessarily

965
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 3: born out, but I would also so add to that,

966
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: I think May's ability makes it easier for the guy

967
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Speaker 3: down the field, whereas May, I think needs more help

968
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 3: from the from the receiver. On the other thing, I

969
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 3: think he got he benefited more from Diggs's sort of

970
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: savvy and weut running and all that, because I don't

971
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 3: think that's as natural to May. Those quick throws, accurate

972
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: third fourth, downd chain moving kind of things. That's not

973
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: the best part of May's game. The best part of

974
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: May's game, I'm going to make you look good when

975
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: we throw it up.

976
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: Derek in South Carolina raises. He asks, you know, with

977
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: losing Diggs, is wide receiver now the number one offseason priority.

978
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: I would say that the number one priority should be

979
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: giving May whatever he needs to succeed, and of course

980
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: that includes wide receivers. But I also think the line

981
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 2: and tight end, like the priority this off season would

982
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 2: be to get this offense humming for Drake May that

983
00:41:59,239 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: that should be the.

984
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Speaker 6: But what do you think is going.

985
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: To do that?

986
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: Well then whoever, Like, if if the opportunity is for

987
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Speaker 2: the best tight end, get that, you know, like there's

988
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: no I don't think there's any order right now. It's

989
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: just you need these people. You're not gonna get them all.

990
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 2: So like, as the opportunity makes itself available, you've got

991
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: to move.

992
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, look at every I mean, that's what I said.

993
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 8: About the thirty first pick, barring you know, like maybe

994
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 8: a Cassius Howell being there. I looked at it through

995
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 8: the prism of Drake, who's available, Who's going to help

996
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 8: Drake the most immediately and in the long term, and

997
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 8: you know, setting up those those long term weapons. I mean,

998
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 8: I think you look at I went down on Tuesday,

999
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 8: show all the guys that are going to be free

1000
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 8: agents next year on the you know, Booty's up, Douglas

1001
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 8: is up, Hollins is up. They have to find who

1002
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 8: are going to be Drake May's long term guys for

1003
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 8: you know, the end of his first contract and into

1004
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 8: that second, you know, lucrative contract, and I'm sure he's

1005
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 8: going to sign next offseason, you know. So it's it's

1006
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 8: a priority for sure, but you got to get it right.

1007
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 4: And I think you can keep taking swings every year.

1008
00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 4: Trying to find it.

1009
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: For me is the priority. And I understand Fred's point,

1010
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: like whatever presents itself you should take. I'm not saying

1011
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: take the seventieth best receiver because that's the biggest need

1012
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 3: over a tight end. Who might be the best tight

1013
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: end available or the best offensive tackle available, whatever not.

1014
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 6: Whatever is available is available.

1015
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: They should have a lot of irons.

1016
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: Five receiver to me, is a bigger need than the

1017
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: other things. I think you guys all picked edge rusher.

1018
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 3: Edge rusher is a huge need. I totally agree with

1019
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: you guys. For me, it's more about what Fred says.

1020
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 6: I think they got to find a way to give

1021
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 6: Drake a little bit more helpful.

1022
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 9: I think that's the number one concern with this move

1023
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 9: to me, is like, ideally, you don't want to put

1024
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 9: yourself in a position in the draft where you have

1025
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Speaker 9: to draft a certain position, right, And that's usually when

1026
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 9: you make mistakes, is when you are drafting for need

1027
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 9: and it's like we're going in to the draft and

1028
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 9: we have no receivers and we have no choice but

1029
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 9: to take a wide receiver here now. And that's when

1030
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 9: you end up with the seventh best receiver instead of

1031
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 9: a better player at a different position. And so that's

1032
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Speaker 9: what free agency is about. Like free agency is you

1033
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 9: have needs, you have veteran players that are proven commodities

1034
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 9: in the league, and we're going to sign these guys

1035
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Speaker 9: to plug them into these holes.

1036
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Speaker 10: So I'm hoping that next week.

1037
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Speaker 9: They're able to do a lot, you know, whether it's

1038
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 9: Alan Pierce AJ Brown sign a guard maybe and just

1039
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 9: check off some of these boxes because you don't want

1040
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 9: to get to the draft and be reaching on guys

1041
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 9: because you have to take a position of need. I

1042
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 9: think that they had to kind of do that the

1043
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 9: last couple of drafts, and they, you know, Drake May

1044
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 9: has obviously been a huge home run. Campbell will see,

1045
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Speaker 4: And you're doing a car wash here, you know, Evan

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00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 14: that's what we've done since we since we started a little.

1103
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: Over a year ago.

1104
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 14: So the idea is just kind of figure out what

1105
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 14: we need to do for the team and and go

1106
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 14: about doing it.

1107
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 4: Might help with that, it all get and then something new.

1108
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 14: Yeah, And because everybody's here, you know, we have you know,

1109
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 14: most of our staff here, and you know the personnel

1110
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 14: staff and uh, some of the coaches have come in.

1111
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 14: We're excited about going to dinner to night before the meeting,

1112
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 14: so you know, miss Nancy Nancy Meyer sets that up

1113
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 14: and that'll be a great thing here tonight that we'll

1114
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 14: be able to do. I have great dinner with everybody

1115
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 14: that's in and then we'll we'll head over to to

1116
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 14: the interviews.

1117
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 10: Are you're staying almost?

1118
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: Guy Prime forty seven, Well, I'm a stake guy.

1119
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 14: I don't discriminate cocktails, all got spicy horse.

1120
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: At sauce, and I don't discriminate all right, take a stake.

1121
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 10: What's the last couple of weeks looked like for you personally?

1122
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 10: Just obviously coming off the Super Bowl?

1123
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: Wow?

1124
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 14: I mean you try to visit with the players and

1125
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 14: coaches and try to figure out what the staff needs

1126
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 14: and the adjustments that you make with the staff, and.

1127
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: You know, try to take a little bit of time.

1128
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 14: You know, went skiing with Carter, went skiing for three

1129
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 14: days with him, and.

1130
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 1: That was enough. I got more injuries.

1131
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 14: No, no injuries, but you know, just try to make

1132
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 14: some time for family, but also make time for for

1133
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 14: work in this football team.

1134
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 4: No, you got to start over at the beginning every year.

1135
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 13: But is there some things that you can take from

1136
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 13: that season you can stand and.

1137
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 14: I don't know if you it's starting over from the beginning,

1138
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 14: you know what I mean. I think you have to

1139
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 14: start over from you know, the things that you feel

1140
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 14: really really confident about moving forward and that you want

1141
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 14: to build with and kind of go from there and

1142
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 14: then you know, add the pieces and look to the

1143
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 14: draft and look to free agency and you know, who

1144
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 14: can you develop and what can you get out of

1145
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 14: you know, somebody else that maybe you didn't think that

1146
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 14: you had in him, or he didn't think he had

1147
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 14: in himself, and you know, but those will be things

1148
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 14: that we'll do here moving forward, just with our current team,

1149
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 14: and then what it looks like going forward with the

1150
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 14: pieces that we had.

1151
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 9: I'll have to just ask you a little bit about

1152
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 9: this obviously, Zach, you know, being promoted here defensive coordinator.

1153
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 9: Just what did you see as an assistant that you

1154
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 9: thought he could call plays, he'd be a good Yeah.

1155
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 14: I just thought, you know, a very intelligent football coach

1156
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 14: at an offensive background that when he came to Tennessee

1157
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 14: provided us with a lot of information when we were

1158
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 14: in those defensive meeting rooms on Hey, this is what

1159
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 14: they're trying to do.

1160
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: This is what.

1161
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 14: Bothers or maybe forces them to do something differently.

1162
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: And so that's how his.

1163
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 14: Role started and then he progressed to it to a

1164
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 14: defensive coach, handled our red zone installation and the presentation

1165
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 14: and the conversations, and he continued to grow and then

1166
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 14: when you know he got here, you know, it just

1167
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 14: was obvious from an early time when when you know

1168
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 14: Big T was, you know, working through some stuff that

1169
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 14: Zach was capable of leading and also improved.

1170
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: You know, each and every.

1171
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 13: Week you've been a defensive coordinator, what are the biggest

1172
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 13: challenge of having I mean, can you imagine yourself jumping

1173
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 13: into that job kind of unexpectedly?

1174
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: Well, I think as a position.

1175
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 14: Coach you're always thinking about that, and I think that

1176
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 14: when you try to think about that, like hey, what

1177
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 14: what I call here?

1178
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: What adjustment or what do we have to be careful

1179
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: of here?

1180
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 14: You're always just trying to train and sharpen and think

1181
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 14: about that. Now, whether that matches up or marries up

1182
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 14: with the with the play caller that that may not

1183
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 14: always happen, but you're always in your head thinking about

1184
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 14: that's the way that you have to look at it

1185
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 14: just as the same way as you're sitting there and

1186
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 14: you're thinking about, Hey, this is what the head coach

1187
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 14: wants to do.

1188
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: Is this what I would do? And I'm gonna.

1189
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 14: Support this as a as a position coach or a coordinator,

1190
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 14: I'm gonna I'm gonna support it.

1191
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: But is this what I would do?

1192
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 14: Most of the time it is. Sometimes it's it looks

1193
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 14: a little different. So when you get your opportunity, you

1194
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 14: know you can do those things.

1195
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 9: When it comes to Terrell, you you mentioned at the

1196
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 9: podium to get minutes goo that you have a vision

1197
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 9: for his role. Can you just share any insight into

1198
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 9: what that vision might be.

1199
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's again, it's it's going to be a strong

1200
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 14: role on the defense, like he is going.

1201
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: To act as a as.

1202
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 14: A coordinator and presenting information and ideas and you know,

1203
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 14: bringing us the front and making sure that we're we're

1204
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 14: really solid across the front from our edges uh to

1205
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 14: the interior. We've got some guys inside that I think

1206
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 14: can continue to develop and grow, whether that's Milk or

1207
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 14: Christian or anybody else. I think that those guys can

1208
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 14: continue to get better. And Terrell's going to have a

1209
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 14: large hand in that, but he's also going to be

1210
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 14: able to help me, uh and extend, you know, being

1211
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 14: an extension of me throughout our program.

1212
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 13: I know you haven't jumped in too much on the

1213
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 13: draft yet, but do you enjoy that process? Do you

1214
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 13: gravitate towards maybe position you played or.

1215
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 4: You like Do you like it? I mean, do you

1216
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 4: have fun with trying to find these kids?

1217
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 1: Of course? And it's important.

1218
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 14: I mean, the draft is you know, has to be

1219
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 14: the cornerstone of of your you know, your team, and

1220
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 14: it's it's the youth and you put a lot of.

1221
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 1: Time into these guys.

1222
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 14: We spend a lot of time with the draft guys

1223
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 14: and then the free agency if you don't know something

1224
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 14: about them, you know, sometimes you don't know what what

1225
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 14: you're getting. But we have a lot of knowledge of

1226
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 14: these guys, and you're excited when you're able to get them,

1227
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 14: and you know, whether you trade up for them, they

1228
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 14: they're there when you pick, or you know you trade

1229
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 14: back in the guy's there.

1230
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: So you know, we have to we have to continue

1231
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: to draft well.

1232
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 14: And we have to continue to develop because that's the

1233
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 14: only way that you can withstain or sustain the success

1234
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 14: that we envision.

1235
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 9: One of the players I want to ask you about

1236
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 9: on your own team is Christian Gonzalez. Sure has up

1237
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 9: for this extension maybe this offseason. What do you just

1238
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 9: see in him? And do you want to make an

1239
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 9: extension happen?

1240
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: Well, we want to go.

1241
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 14: Yeah, we we obviously want to move forward with all

1242
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 14: our best players.

1243
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: I think that that's something that I would want.

1244
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 14: And I know that you know, Elliott Once and Ryan

1245
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 14: once and Stretched once and Robert and Jonathan and our

1246
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 14: fans want they want our best players to be on

1247
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 14: our team as long as they're.

1248
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: You know, really good players.

1249
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 14: Uh again, I thought he got better. I thought he

1250
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 14: played his best football down the stretch and I thought.

1251
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: That that was good to see.

1252
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 14: I talked about that, and yeah, that was something that

1253
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 14: Gonzo and I, you know, would would talk about and share.

1254
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 14: And you know, he is, he's a talented player. And

1255
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 14: if I pushed him and asked him if he wants

1256
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 14: to strive to be a captain, and he said that

1257
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 14: he does, and I'm gonna help him try to get there.

1258
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 14: And I want him to to come back with that

1259
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 14: mindset of not only being an elite player, but also

1260
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 14: being an elite leader and an elite teammate, which he

1261
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 14: is an elite teammate, but you know, being able to

1262
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 14: push these guys and communicate and use his intelligence and

1263
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 14: what he.

1264
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: Sees on the field, be able to help other guys.

1265
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: Just one more for me, Mike.

1266
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 13: I thought it was really interesting at the podium, he said,

1267
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 13: you're challenging your coaches, you know, bring you something new

1268
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 13: this offseason. Is there anything else that you feel like

1269
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 13: you're kind of adjusting year two that you need to

1270
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 13: make to maybe course correct or just change course.

1271
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 14: I mean, we we have to left, We have to

1272
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 14: get stronger. You know, when you have a young football team,

1273
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 14: like you have to understand that this is a I mean,

1274
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 14: this is a grown man sport like this is there's

1275
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 14: a bunch of big.

1276
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: Men out there playing this game.

1277
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 14: And so I want to make sure that our players

1278
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 14: understand how important.

1279
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 1: You know, their physical development is.

1280
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 14: They they may be skilled, but we you know, we

1281
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 14: have some guys that you know, our team, like everybody's

1282
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 14: at a different level, Like where where one player is

1283
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 14: at twelve years into his career and other players in

1284
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 14: his second year. Like here's what I always say, Like

1285
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 14: nobody talks about Tom Brady.

1286
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: In two thousand and one. In two thousand and.

1287
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 14: How he changed his body and he maximized his God

1288
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 14: given genetic ability. Everybody talks about TB twelve and the pliability,

1289
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 14: they don't talk about how hard he worked in the

1290
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 14: weight room and we lifted with the tight end and

1291
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 14: the linebackers, and he squatted and he hanged, cleaned, and

1292
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 14: he did all those things to make his body the

1293
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 14: best that it could be for him to play quarterback

1294
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 14: and to compete.

1295
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: Uh and once his opportunity came.

1296
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 14: So I think that's always a good reminder just looking

1297
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 14: at what you know, how hard this player worked and

1298
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 14: what people thought it was.

1299
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: But you know, some of us that were.

1300
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 14: There, you know, we got to see that, and you know,

1301
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 14: I think that's just a good reminder that as a

1302
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 14: young player you can still make a lot of gains

1303
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 14: once you started your career.

1304
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 9: Kind of along those same lines, when you did an

1305
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 9: audit of the season in the Super Bowl, you guys

1306
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 9: were a great offense during the regular season, Dans MVP

1307
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 9: runner up. In the playoffs, it seemed to take maybe

1308
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 9: a little bit of a step back. Is that, you know,

1309
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 9: young guys in big spots, great defenses.

1310
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 14: Well, I mean you obviously know what the type of

1311
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 14: defenses that we played.

1312
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: It wasn't like we were playing some rum dums. You know,

1313
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: these guys were good and we didn't consistently do enough.

1314
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 14: I thought there were times where we did and we

1315
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 14: weren't able to sustain.

1316
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: And we'll have to go back and understand it.

1317
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 14: To be to put yourself in those positions and ultimately

1318
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 14: win a championship, you're gonna have to beat good defenses,

1319
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 14: whether that's at home or on the road or whatever.

1320
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Speaker 14: That is so uh, the consistency of it, the ability

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Speaker 14: to create some X plays.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to drive the ball ten or.

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Speaker 14: Twelve plays, and you know, just you have to be

1324
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 14: have to be better, have to you know, improve the

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Speaker 14: details and improve the execution.

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Speaker 1: And we're all involved in it, you know, from the

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Speaker 1: coaching to the playing. Is it's on us all and

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Speaker 1: that's that will be our challenge going forward.

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Speaker 15: Is.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we had success and there was some really good performances,

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Speaker 14: but you know, the margin for air when you get

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Speaker 14: into January, uh really shrinks.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys, appreciate We'll see you back in Fox everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys should ask more questions when you come back.

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Speaker 6: And now, great moments in.

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Speaker 1: History?

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Speaker 6: How would you pronounce my name in Italian?

1338
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: The way you last name?

1339
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 6: Paria, perula, Perillo.

1340
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Speaker 3: That's how you should pronounce it in Italian. It's not

1341
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 3: how I pronounce it. But yet he lets me get

1342
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 3: away with that.

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Speaker 2: I guess, well, you're saying you don't pronounce the l's if.

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Speaker 6: It was Italian.

1345
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, prea no no.

1346
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 4: In Spanish, you don't pronounce the l that is Italian.

1347
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: You do.

1348
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 3: They have both romance languages, and yes, but you pronounce

1349
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 3: the two l's in Spanish.

1350
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: You don't in Spanish.

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00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 6: It's why.

1352
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: Well, I grew up with a guy named Rocky Delgadillo, Okay,

1353
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: and that's how he pronounced his name.

1354
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: Did he say muzzarel too?

1355
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: You believe me?

1356
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 6: This guy could not have been anymore off the boat.

1357
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: So two Italians fighting over the language.

1358
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 3: I'm not fighting over the language. I'm just asking him

1359
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 3: both saying you're wrong. I'm asking him about his hipocrisy, Well, providence,

1360
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 3: why one you're not the other?

1361
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't even know how to pronounce your

1362
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: own name. It's stillavan.

1363
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

1364
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Speaker 2: I love what he does does it's Stillavano.

1365
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 6: No, that's another great moment.

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00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered eight five five

1367
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: Pats five hundred podcasts at Patriots dot com is the

1368
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: email address? What's what's interesting?

1369
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 8: Report from our friend Jordan Schultz who apparently he's not

1370
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 8: doing as much fighting as he used to have done.

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00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 4: He's really reporting these days?

1372
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Speaker 15: Uh.

1373
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 8: Former Browns will offensive tackle Jederick Willis, who sat out

1374
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 8: last season to fully recover from an injury, has been

1375
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 8: on a tour of visits with NFL teams, including the Patriots.

1376
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 8: Visitor expected to continue. Former top ten pick Willis, who's

1377
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 8: just twenty six, fully expects to be with an NFL

1378
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 8: team this season.

1379
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: So why did he Why did he so? Jordan Schultz

1380
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 2: isn't from around here?

1381
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 10: Is he thanks the start?

1382
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: I want?

1383
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: Why did he make a point to say including the Patriots.

1384
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 9: Because Jedrick Wills's agent said, please give me a favor

1385
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 9: and put out that Jedrick Wills wants to play next year?

1386
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: But why Patriots? I'm not saying why wouldn't we be interested?

1387
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: But why does Jordan Schultz of all the teams use

1388
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: us as one of the including Well.

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Speaker 10: I guess maybe he was here. I don't know.

1390
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: You just said he's going on a tour.

1391
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Speaker 10: Well, I think he said that he was with the

1392
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Speaker 10: Patriots and now is going someplace.

1393
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Speaker 4: I mean perhaps, I'm not sure if this math works out.

1394
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: So like Jordan Schull seems to be doing some a

1395
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: lot of Patriots reporting lately.

1396
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Speaker 10: Well, he's on the agent side for sure.

1397
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Speaker 8: Drafted by the Browns in twenty twenty. Was Elliot Wolf

1398
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 8: there with the Browns in twenty twenty. Perhaps there's some

1399
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Speaker 8: kind of connection.

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Speaker 16: Oh never mind, this is his first year here. I think,

1401
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 16: all right, I'm just curious, curious. All right, let's get

1402
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Speaker 16: to the phones people have been patiently holding on. We'll

1403
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Speaker 16: start with Sean and Vancouver. What's up, Sean Sred?

1404
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Speaker 17: I got a couple of things, Evan, you came around

1405
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 17: to Chris Browsel the third. I'm wondering what turned it

1406
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 17: for you or what want them over for you? And

1407
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 17: would you prefer him over at Denzel Boston? And then

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Speaker 17: the big thing though, that I want to talk about

1409
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Speaker 17: is Fred. You're talking about the Patriots needs and and

1410
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Speaker 17: you know this has been a conversation. I think it's

1411
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 17: reallliant important that like Kevin said that we addressed this

1412
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Speaker 17: in free agency. So I have five areas of need

1413
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Speaker 17: that I'd love to see addressed in free agency.

1414
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Speaker 2: About three, let's short it top three okay.

1415
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Speaker 17: Three, Okay, we'll just do do the offense then for

1416
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 17: for the x fide receiver, like you're saying, Alex Pierce

1417
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 17: makes the most sense tight end who can block like

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01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 17: Kate Auten and left guard David David Edwards.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good. Thanks, Sean, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I like all the individuals that he picked. I just

1421
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 3: think it's very little chance of big, big money at all.

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Speaker 6: Three.

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01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, Christians in la uh Oh? What's up?

1424
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,479
Speaker 10: What are you upset about?

1425
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 18: No, there's nothing dramatic. I just I'm a little upset

1426
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 18: that we keep doing this thing that that we just

1427
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 18: can't seem to get right in New England. We cannot

1428
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 18: get a number one receiver a bit right, like we

1429
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 18: get the wrong guy, someone that doesn't fit the systems. Listen,

1430
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 18: Stefon Diggs played an amazing season this year, coming off

1431
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 18: in ACL He's only going to get better next year.

1432
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 18: And he's the kind of guy that has like a

1433
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 18: chip on his shoulder and wants to prove himself. He's

1434
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 18: also the kind of guy that we would restructure his

1435
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 18: contract and he literally wants to be here. But here's

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01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 18: what I'm proposing. Maybe it's crazy. Maybe we keep Stefon

1437
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 18: Diggs and then we get Alec Pierce. Also we get

1438
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 18: rid of That's what I don't like these guys Mac Collins,

1439
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 18: Kayshaun Booty and maybe even Pop Douglas. And we have

1440
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 18: two guys behind those. We have Kyle Williams and Efen

1441
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 18: Chism behind Diggs and Pierce to sort of develop, and

1442
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 18: we can use that first round pick or free agency

1443
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 18: to get a tight end or to address the offensive line.

1444
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 18: I don't see why we keep doing this thing where

1445
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 18: we're kind of outthinking ourselves.

1446
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 9: Right, Okay, I get what he's saying about the wide receivers.

1447
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 9: I mean they keep on trying to swing at wide receiver.

1448
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 9: And I just think that one of the things that

1449
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 9: Paul you brought it up first, like the whole Digs thing,

1450
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 9: is there's a lot to unpack there. There's a lot

1451
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 9: of layers that are just beyond They didn't want to

1452
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 9: pay him the contract that he was owed in twenty

1453
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 9: twenty six, and I think a lot of that is

1454
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 9: maybe more of a factor than what's being made out

1455
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 9: to be. I think because the money people really want

1456
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 9: to hammer them on the money piece of it. And

1457
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 9: I think there's a lot going on with Stefon Diggs that.

1458
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, especially towards.

1459
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 10: The end of the sea.

1460
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 3: I don't have any inside information on this. This is

1461
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 3: just my view from you know, ten thousand feet. I

1462
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: think it has as much to do with Diggs's whole

1463
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 3: package then it has to do with the contract, because

1464
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 3: I don't think the contract was quite frankly, I think

1465
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 3: he was average annual value. I think he was twenty

1466
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 3: third among wide receivers. The twenty point six million was

1467
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Speaker 3: going to slay and that's going to go down because

1468
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 3: like Alec Pierce for one, that doesn't count. I don't

1469
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 3: think George Pickens with his franchise tag when he signs

1470
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 3: that that see, he's going to go further down. I

1471
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 3: don't think his contract was out of the realm of

1472
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 3: you know, reasonable numbers at twenty million, right. I think

1473
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 3: this has more to do with them sort of wondering.

1474
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: You're too early instead of two late.

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01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: What happened?

1476
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 3: What happens if he becomes a real problem. And then

1477
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 3: you know what kind of stuck with him because we

1478
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 3: paid him the twenty million.

1479
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 8: So your threat of the needle last year, I mean

1480
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,959
Speaker 8: you got ormance on and off the field with him,

1481
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 8: you dodged. I mean, let's face it, a few bullets

1482
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 8: with him off the field that dated back to the

1483
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 8: very start of it all.

1484
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 4: And I never thought that Stefan Diggs was going to.

1485
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 2: Be that one.

1486
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 8: It always felt like he was going to be a placeholder,

1487
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 8: somebody to get.

1488
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 4: Drake up the speed.

1489
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 8: But you know, I think we've been searching for the

1490
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 8: quarterbacks so much that now you finally have a guy

1491
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 8: in place that you believe in, and now I feel

1492
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 8: like it's feasible to really attempt to find these guys

1493
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 8: that Christian's talking about. Not to say that it wasn't before,

1494
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 8: but when you have mac Jones and you know, you

1495
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 8: don't know, and you're still trying to build a protection,

1496
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 8: and now they're getting to the point where ye off

1497
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 8: line they got And it's like.

1498
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 2: If I bought a Maserati and didn't have a garage,

1499
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: if my plan isn't to build that garage, then don't

1500
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 2: buy the Masarati.

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01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 3: But also I wouldn't discount. You know, there's been a

1502
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 3: lot made of the last couple of years. It's you know,

1503
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley, it's Brandon Ayuk, it's these guys that they've

1504
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 3: been chasing and they can't get them, you know, even

1505
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins that year.

1506
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 6: I don't think that's that's a thing anymore.

1507
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 3: I think that they'll be able to pursue guys in

1508
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 3: you know, Chris Godwin last year, just last year. I

1509
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 3: think now they won't have to just take the only

1510
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 3: one digs that says that'll say yes. I think they're

1511
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: going to be very attractive with this young quarterback and

1512
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 3: a team that's coming off a Super Bowl.

1513
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: Appearing, and don't forget the new training facility is right.

1514
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know if that's I think it's.

1515
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 9: It's funny how like Diggs is going to end up

1516
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 9: being a big reason why the plane got off the ground,

1517
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 9: but he's just not going.

1518
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 10: To be the one that lands it, you know what

1519
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 10: I mean.

1520
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 3: Like, and it's kind of, uh, you know, stinks for

1521
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 3: him kind of in a way that that's he was

1522
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 3: kind of that guinea pig, but he sort of was.

1523
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 3: And I just think the one thing that you can't do,

1524
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 3: is you can't just keep going year to year at

1525
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 3: that position, Yes, because that's not really fair to Drake May, right,

1526
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 3: like every fall into the Kansas City tree, right, and

1527
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 3: you just say, well, Patrick will figure it out, Josh Allen,

1528
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 3: you could figure it out if you get.

1529
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 2: A number one guy.

1530
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,479
Speaker 9: Now, if you get Alex Pierce, who's twenty six years old,

1531
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 9: then you have some runway with him and Drake May together.

1532
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 9: You don't want to get into a situation where, well,

1533
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 9: we got A Diggs for a year, and now we're

1534
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 9: going to hire mercenary A J. Brown for a year,

1535
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Speaker 9: and now we're gonna.

1536
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 6: About how about Brian Thomas.

1537
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 10: He's available. I don't know why is he available?

1538
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 3: Because supposedly he doesn't fit well with Trevor Lawrence and

1539
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 3: what Liam Collen wants to do on offense, which is

1540
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 3: a red flag. I fully recognize that's a red flag.

1541
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 3: Like he's a young player, why are they looking to

1542
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 3: move on from it? But that's a guy that has

1543
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 3: obviously the ability and young in the prime of his career.

1544
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 6: You get him still on his rookie contract.

1545
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 8: I mean, I love what Evan's saying, just finding those

1546
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 8: guys that Drake can build a long term relationship with.

1547
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 8: You can't keep chasing the digs Is and the aj

1548
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 8: Browns and every year you're on, you know, a one

1549
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 8: year kind of deal, trying to plug that hole. You've

1550
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 8: got to find a way to get some young players.

1551
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 8: I mean that to me, I mean Ale Pierce being

1552
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 8: young is one of the big appeals to him too.

1553
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 8: And by the way, DJ Moore went for a second.

1554
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 8: DJ Moore in a fifth.

1555
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 2: For a second.

1556
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 10: It was during the break.

1557
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, I was for getting my stamach.

1558
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 3: Oh okay, we weren't on the air when we said that.

1559
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 3: I was going to call you Fred, But I'm not

1560
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 3: going to call your Fred now. Now.

1561
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say we were in a break.

1562
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 9: I've seen some people break with that with the DJ

1563
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,919
Speaker 9: Moore thing, being like that's a hefty price, like bad

1564
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 9: news for the Patriots of just talking about that, I don't.

1565
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 9: I mean, it's this second for fifth and djil like

1566
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 9: it's a pick swap, of.

1567
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 3: Like it was a big pick swap. It's a big

1568
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 3: pit swap. But I don't think that that's like a

1569
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 3: sizable trade.

1570
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 6: It's not outrageous.

1571
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: No, uh, Sabah is in North Carolina.

1572
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 19: What's up, Hey there, gentlemen. It's so pleasure to just

1573
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 19: listen to you guys in my living room. It's just

1574
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 19: very enjoyable. So I just want to thank you. I

1575
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,919
Speaker 19: like listening to you guys.

1576
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 14: Uh.

1577
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 19: First of all about the wide receiver thing. Do not

1578
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 19: get eighth Brown. I'm not a big diva person, and

1579
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 19: I agree with you on Stefan Dick to think he's

1580
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 19: the guy you date, not Mary. So, like you said,

1581
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 19: you throw the needle with him and you want to

1582
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 19: have great memories when it's over. You don't want it

1583
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 19: to get ugly, which you could. And I love Stephan

1584
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 19: Diggs and your team, I really did, but I would

1585
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 19: not get a J. Brown. He demeans his quarterbacks, just

1586
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 19: ask the Philadelphia Hurts. He read books on the sidelines.

1587
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 19: He's dairy like I want the ball instead of letting

1588
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 19: the offense come to him. So I think the best

1589
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 19: way for the Patriots to win Super Bowls is to

1590
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 19: do like Tom Brady. He never had that one guy,

1591
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 19: and when he did have moss y'all didn't win the

1592
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 19: Super Bowl. So I say go with by committee. And

1593
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 19: I like that fierce guy. Now I have one thing

1594
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 19: for you guys to consider. I know it's out of

1595
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 19: the box, and you can call me crazy, but I

1596
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 19: don't like your left side of the line at all. I

1597
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 19: would not double down with them. I would cut braids.

1598
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 19: I would trade your left guard and that left tackle

1599
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 19: got from L s U for Max Crosby. Straight up?

1600
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 19: Would they do that?

1601
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 2: The d think the Raiders would no.

1602
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 19: Throwing a fourth round pick?

1603
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 6: No, No, I think throwing two ones. And maybe.

1604
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 19: It's better with your backups in there.

1605
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 3: You don't like the left side of the Patriots line, right,

1606
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 3: you don't like the left tackle and the left guy.

1607
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 19: We were on a good call, right, I don't like them.

1608
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 6: You don't.

1609
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 3: You don't like them, But the Raiders are going to

1610
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 3: like them and give up their best player for them.

1611
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 19: Well, I thought the Raiders have a horrible off of

1612
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 19: the line, and I.

1613
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 6: Think, but but you don't think those players are.

1614
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 3: Good, So they would still have a horrible offensive line.

1615
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 2: I guess the Are they going to be any better

1616
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 2: at the Raiders?

1617
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 20: No?

1618
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 19: Probably not. That's why I would get rid of get

1619
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 19: rid of.

1620
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: Them, right, So, but the Raiders might know that, So

1621
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 2: I mean it's I mean obviously.

1622
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 3: Unreally, you're not going to trade two, you know, second

1623
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,799
Speaker 3: year offensive lineman who started for you for the whole season.

1624
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 6: You're going to give them a chance continue to do nobody.

1625
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 2: I like the creative thinking. I like the creative thinking, generous.

1626
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 19: In a double down, they're gonna cut, you gotta cut

1627
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 19: your losses.

1628
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's a loss yet. I don't

1629
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 2: think the Patriots think it's a loss yet. I think that,

1630
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 2: you know, I think you might move Wilson at center,

1631
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: and I think they think that Campbell can get stronger

1632
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 2: and and have a year two jump. So I don't

1633
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 2: think they think it's a loss yet.

1634
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 19: All right, Well, I like the Pierce thing, but get

1635
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 19: the line fixed absolutely, and I don't want any divas

1636
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 19: in the house. Avoid again, Well.

1637
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 2: Then you don't like.

1638
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,959
Speaker 3: You don't want any receivers except for justin Jefferson.

1639
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,520
Speaker 10: All right, thanks on the sideline.

1640
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 2: Eric is in Louisiana. What's up? Eric? As?

1641
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 10: He should be.

1642
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 21: Right, Jefferson, Hey, how y'all doing?

1643
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 15: I just wanted to ask this one question of obviously,

1644
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 15: we drafted Will Campbell, Treyvon Henderson, and Kyle Williams last

1645
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 15: year and it was a struggle for them at times,

1646
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 15: but they obviously picked it up and they showed promise.

1647
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 15: What is the expectation for the draft picks are coming

1648
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 15: into this year to say that, Okay, we have something here.

1649
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 15: We don't have to worry about this spot anymore. So,

1650
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 15: like as far as like edge, wide receiver and like

1651
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 15: the line back, like is it stats is something or

1652
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 15: be something that's gonna be like, Oh, we don't have

1653
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 15: to worry about this certain position in the future.

1654
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 10: Okay, I'm not sure I understand the question.

1655
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 4: I'm not sure I follow Eric. Yeah, quarterback, but I

1656
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 4: mean otherwise, I.

1657
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 8: Think you can if it's not an immediate need, it's

1658
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 8: a long term need. I'd say cornerback is not an

1659
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 8: immediate you know, maybe day one need.

1660
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 4: But Carlton Davis, you know you're gonna need some depth there.

1661
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 3: That's showing you resign Gonzales, which I'm expecting I would.

1662
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:37,560
Speaker 6: I would agree with Mike on that.

1663
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 3: You know, running back is probably not a pressing need

1664
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 3: right now, but it's it's going to be and they

1665
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 3: probably need some depth there too. Tight end is a need,

1666
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 3: Wide receivers in need, edges a need. I mean, is

1667
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 3: Barbo going to stay. Then maybe defensive tackle isn't necessarily

1668
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 3: a need with Williams and Barmore back again, you know

1669
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 3: this quarterback, it's kind of is that what he was asking?

1670
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 3: What positions do you look at and say, like, that's

1671
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 3: not you know, we're set there.

1672
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 4: I think that's the NFL too, though.

1673
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 2: It's just it's it's everybody's you.

1674
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 4: Know, it's not for long league. That's what it is.

1675
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 6: And the reason why you say quarterback is because you

1676
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 6: only need one of them.

1677
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: You have it.

1678
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 10: Long snapper.

1679
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, said, assuming you're signing, assuming good gonsip I

1680
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,440
Speaker 2: feel good or not. I'd always like another good cornerback,

1681
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 2: but that's not a priority.

1682
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1683
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, we were talking a little bit about that with

1684
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 8: Bradley at the at the linebacker position.

1685
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 4: I think that's a good position to talk about because you.

1686
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 8: Know, Gibbons isn't an r f A, so that's and

1687
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 8: he wasn't drafted, so you could easily give him. I mean,

1688
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 8: I think you'd make less than me last year, so

1689
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 8: they're probably not going to do that. They probably look

1690
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 8: more to give him a two or three year deal.

1691
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 4: But that's one spot where I don't like.

1692
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 8: I don't think that you know, I love Spoline, but

1693
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 8: I don't know about the guys next to him. How

1694
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 8: if either one of those are you know, real blue

1695
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 8: chip kind of guys. So I could see them trying

1696
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 8: to upgrade it. But at the same time, if you

1697
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 8: have to go in the next season with that same

1698
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 8: three guys with other priorities l s where it might

1699
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:02,600
Speaker 8: be one of those positions where you just kind of

1700
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 8: have to bite the bullet.

1701
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 4: I think there's always positions like that where you.

1702
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 8: Don't go in feeling like, oh, we've got an all

1703
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 8: star group, but it's going to be good enough for

1704
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 8: this year.

1705
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 9: I think that there's a lot of positions like that

1706
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 9: in the draft, where like again, if you go into

1707
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 9: the draft without a bunch of needs that you have

1708
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 9: to fill immediately. Linebackers, it's a great linebacker class, a

1709
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 9: great off ball linebacker class, one of which is kind

1710
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 9: of a dying position. So it's been a couple of

1711
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 9: years since they've had one of those, So you would

1712
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 9: like to draft one of those guys. But if you

1713
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 9: need a left guard, and you need another wide receiver,

1714
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 9: and you need an edge rusher, like now, all of

1715
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 9: a sudden, like we're throwing darts at on Day three

1716
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 9: at linebacker. So like, if you can get some of

1717
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 9: these things done in free agency, then I think you

1718
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 9: start drafting for the future. Like the other position I

1719
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 9: keep hearing so much about is right tackle and how

1720
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 9: they need to draft the right tackle of the future. Well,

1721
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 9: they're not in a luxury position right now to be

1722
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 9: drafting a right tackle of the future at thirty one.

1723
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 9: Like I see a lot of mocks with Blake Miller.

1724
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 9: I think he's a good player too, But like, are

1725
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 9: you in a spot right now where you can draft

1726
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 9: a player that's not going to play in twenty twenty six?

1727
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 9: Like this isn't Nate Solder, Like we're not in that

1728
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,799
Speaker 9: era of Patriots football where their roster is just stacked

1729
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 9: and they have the luxury to make those types of picks.

1730
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 9: So hopefully in free agency they do a lot and

1731
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 9: they can figure that.

1732
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 4: Proctor going thirty one in Charles Davis's mock draft.

1733
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, like Cayden Broctor, So you're gonna draft him to

1734
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 9: play right tackle two years from now and and do

1735
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 9: what in the meantime and like that, and you look

1736
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 9: at you know, Ed Dresher and they got you know,

1737
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 9: they got bodies right like it just it doesn't seem

1738
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 9: like they're there yet to make that kind of pick.

1739
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 2: Travis in West Virginia wants to know, you get on

1740
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 2: your own nerves talking about the same four wide receivers

1741
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 2: for two hours every show for the past month.

1742
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, yeah, but there's a lot of truth through that. Yeah. Sure,

1743
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 6: there's a repetitive nature too.

1744
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 8: Well, wait, all the draft happened, I know, but it's

1745
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 8: cycles and all of a sudden somebody will sign somewhere

1746
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 8: and then you'll never talk about them.

1747
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 3: I will say this, this year has been light years

1748
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 3: better than the last two in that regard, because we were.

1749
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 10: Talking about like since November.

1750
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 3: We were talking about Will Campbell's arms from November on

1751
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 3: last year, and the year before that, we were talking

1752
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 3: about Jayden Daniels and Drake May and JJ McCarthy had

1753
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 3: nauseum from November on.

1754
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 4: How long have we.

1755
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 6: Take this over that?

1756
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 4: How long have we been coveting AJ Brown?

1757
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 3: Like?

1758
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 4: And is there any other fan base.

1759
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 8: That covers a wide receiver more than Patriots fans talk

1760
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 8: about a J.

1761
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: Brown?

1762
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 3: Larry Fitzgerald, that's a good one, counter right right. Someone

1763
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 3: put out that that that meme today with a little

1764
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 3: little year.

1765
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 6: It was Kyler Murray Minnesota.

1766
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 4: The thing that's funny now, it's it's it's what we do.

1767
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 4: I believe me. I I would love to see what

1768
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 4: this show looks like.

1769
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 8: Where the Patriots have a number one wide receiver like

1770
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 8: no joke, like that, we have Jamar.

1771
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 4: Chase on the team.

1772
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 8: And because I would say a great majority of call

1773
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 8: somehow relate to finding a number one, why we can't

1774
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 8: find the number one.

1775
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 2: Was a number seven?

1776
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 6: I tried to branch out a little bit. I brought

1777
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 6: up Brian Thomas and Romeo Dobbs.

1778
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 4: That's good, you're bringing new names to thank you.

1779
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 2: For spicing it. Brian Thomas is a good pull Justin Wrightson.

1780
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 2: Let's say hypothetically we signed Pierce to a contract where

1781
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 2: he's on a three year deal making twenty eight million

1782
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 2: a year, how much money would we have left over

1783
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 2: to try to get back guys like Tongo or Hawkins,

1784
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: Alec Pierce or training for aj Brown. Feels like the

1785
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 2: only big move the Patriots will be able to make

1786
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: after that. I don't know how many guys they'd be

1787
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 2: able to sign a free agency.

1788
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 9: Well, they have fifty seven million dollars in cap space

1789
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 9: after cutting digs and so if you're signing Al Pierce

1790
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 9: over a multiple year contract, if we're just going by

1791
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 9: the cap. Now, if you want to talk about the

1792
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,759
Speaker 9: whole Felger and maz Cash thing, then that's a totally

1793
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 9: different argument. But if you're just talking about the cap,

1794
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 9: they are more than fine. Especially if we're talking about

1795
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:55,799
Speaker 9: the Tongas and the Jalen Hawkins.

1796
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, are we considering those like big? Like, No,

1797
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 3: You're gonna have no money to sign those guys, right,

1798
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 3: Like we're talking about Gonzales, Right, you need money, Just

1799
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 3: sign Gonzales.

1800
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 2: We didn't talk about Alex austen uportally not coming.

1801
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 4: It's not gonna come back.

1802
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 10: I mean, he didn't play last I.

1803
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 6: Didn't know about that.

1804
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 8: But it's funny though, I mean, I mean, tong has

1805
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 8: been on what three four teams? He signed a one

1806
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 8: year deal last year worth two point seven million, And

1807
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 8: I've had this conversation a couple times, like how are

1808
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 8: we going to resign Tongue? And I'm like, he was

1809
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 8: a good player, but I don't think that the two

1810
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 8: down nose tackles, that's not a hard spot to find

1811
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 8: to have them back.

1812
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 3: But even if we're double that, right, which he probably won't,

1813
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 3: but even if he doubled that, like what are you

1814
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 3: talking about being precluded to make a move like that?

1815
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I agree that if they signed at Pearce,

1816
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 9: that's their big fish of the off season. They're not

1817
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 9: going to then go also signed Trey Hendrickson or something

1818
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 9: like that.

1819
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 6: Most likely those are big, big, big ticket like that.

1820
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,719
Speaker 2: Like Paul said, you go in the cushions of your couch,

1821
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 2: you can find the money.

1822
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I mean, come on, but I I it

1823
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 9: is a very very good nose tackle draft.

1824
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 10: It's just that nose tackles are back.

1825
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 9: There's like five of them in the top fifty, and

1826
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 9: like it's like it's like nineteen eighty five. I'm like,

1827
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 9: where did all Like all these guys are just gap

1828
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 9: eating space eating.

1829
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 2: Bleak calb Banks.

1830
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, like all the kid from Ohio State McDonald like

1831
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 9: all they're all like three hundred and thirty pounds nose tackles.

1832
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:25,799
Speaker 10: Not Milton Williams.

1833
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 4: Dominique Orange is another one.

1834
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, big Citrus that's his nicknag.

1835
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, Citrus.

1836
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 9: F I S I was stated I was big it's

1837
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 9: not the guy was big Citrus.

1838
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: Aaron in Connecticut writes in Huge Fan First Email when

1839
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 2: fans are critical of potential contracts for free agents. Paul

1840
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: and Evan slash Alex on Catch twenty two of asked,

1841
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 2: who cares how much they pay the player is successful?

1842
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 2: I agree, no one cares if the player hits. I

1843
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 2: think the concern is the opportunity cost. If we overpay

1844
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 2: for multiple free agents, does it reduce the number of

1845
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 2: shots we can take in our subsequent chances to find

1846
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 2: a perfect fit. Just a thought.

1847
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 3: No, if it doesn't work, it hurts your team, But

1848
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 3: the next year comes around and you figure out how

1849
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 3: to deal with.

1850
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 4: The guy, you know, like it's always gonna be another

1851
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 4: Johnny Smith.

1852
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 6: That was the exact name I was thinking of.

1853
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 3: You overpaid, didn't work, you move on like it didn't hurt,

1854
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 3: That didn't prevent them from doing anything. It just I

1855
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 3: I think this is a continuation of that. And I

1856
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 3: kind of set my piece on it Tuesday, and I

1857
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 3: got some criticism for it.

1858
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 6: Like, I just don't understand why you'll criticize you just

1859
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 6: you know, on the t.

1860
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 9: I just don't understand, like people that because all this

1861
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 9: out peer stuff is going crazy on on Patriots Twitter.

1862
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 9: So like people are like, I'm not paying him a

1863
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 9: penny more than twenty eight million a year, Like what

1864
01:19:59,439 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 9: you can't?

1865
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 6: And I'm like, so if it's a differences, perfectly fine.

1866
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 9: But if the difference between getting the player is paying

1867
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 9: him thirty instead of twenty eight, you're just you're done

1868
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 9: at twenty eight like that two million dollars they really are, you.

1869
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 3: Know, not every player should be perceived to be the same.

1870
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 3: Like I might look at this guy differently than Mike

1871
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 3: looks at him, and that's fine. Like I would just

1872
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 3: say that I understand. If you don't want to pay

1873
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 3: Alec Pearce twenty eight million, then you don't want Alec Pierce,

1874
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 3: and that's okay. You don't have to want every guy

1875
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 3: that other people want. I think you'd be a good fit.

1876
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 3: Do I think that would be an overpay for Alec Pierce?

1877
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 2: Probably?

1878
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1879
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 3: In free agency, you overpay, And I always fall back

1880
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 3: on my tried and true You know who else was

1881
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 3: an overpay last year at this time, Milton Williams. They

1882
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 3: overpaid for a guy who had not done that in

1883
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 3: his career. And I don't think any Patriot fan would

1884
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 3: sit back and say, I wish we didn't do that.

1885
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,919
Speaker 3: The only time the guy's a good player. Good players

1886
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 3: cost money.

1887
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 8: The only time I ever think about this money stuff

1888
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 8: is when it gets to who is getting paid way

1889
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 8: more than they have performed and who was a cut candidate?

1890
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 8: Like who can they what contracts can they get rid of?

1891
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 8: It's not going to be a ton of a dead cap.

1892
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 1: And if they.

1893
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 3: Couldn't do that, Mike, I'd be more on board. If

1894
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 3: this was the NHL, I'd be much more cash conscious

1895
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,520
Speaker 3: because you can't just get out from under bad contracts.

1896
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 2: You know.

1897
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 3: You signed Matt Bileski to this free agent deal and

1898
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 3: it handcuffs you for years because you can't just cut

1899
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 3: him like you can cut him, but he's still counting

1900
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 3: the same on the gap.

1901
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if this was accurate, but they were

1902
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 2: saying on Goods yesterday that the total that we were

1903
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 2: told the contract was was like in the sixty millions,

1904
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 2: and he only got like twenty million of it, you know.

1905
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 3: So it's like the only thing that you can come

1906
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 3: back at is like budget, but right budget. So like

1907
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 3: when we were talking about when we were talking about

1908
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 3: earlier like if they sign out of Pears and brought

1909
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 3: Digs back for less money, Well, like, what's their budget

1910
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 3: for the wide receiver room that year? Because like, I

1911
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 3: don't think that they can afford both those guys. It

1912
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 3: based off of the budget. I don't know that. I'm

1913
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 3: just saying, I'm assuming.

1914
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,839
Speaker 9: I'm guessing that they wouldn't do that, But like that's cash,

1915
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 9: Like that's real cash spending. Yeah, in terms of like

1916
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 9: how much do we have as a budget for the

1917
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 9: team in twenty twenty six?

1918
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 2: Ben and Hershey, Pennsylvania. What And you know, we like

1919
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 2: to answer all kinds of questions here, you know, like

1920
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 2: so people that aren't really into you know, the x's

1921
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 2: and o's, like Evan have a question, we want to

1922
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 2: field it. Okay, what actually makes someone a wide receiver?

1923
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: One?

1924
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 2: Is it where they line up, how many targets they get,

1925
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 2: the coverage they draw up, being a top ten, top twelve,

1926
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 2: top sixteen wide receiver in the NFL or just being

1927
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 2: the most talented receiver on the team. What's the real definition?

1928
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 2: The most obvious Patriots wide receiver one was Randy Moss,

1929
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 2: But what about Edelman, Gronk Branch. Where do you draw

1930
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 2: the line. If Diggs was drawing heavy coverage down the

1931
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 2: stretch last season and had a thousand receiving yards, was

1932
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 2: he not worthy of the w R one label? Why not?

1933
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,799
Speaker 2: What was missing? So it's a that's an excellent question.

1934
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 3: It's an excellent question. I would say he had it

1935
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 3: right in a his first part. It would be my definition.

1936
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 6: You guys might all have.

1937
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 2: Like every team has I think a w R one,

1938
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 2: but it's relative to your team.

1939
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 9: So every team that has a number one starter, but

1940
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 9: not every team has an ACE, right right?

1941
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, Red Sox have an ace the other team Derek.

1942
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 2: One WR one or is he a player who?

1943
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 14: Ye?

1944
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 3: And I would say that is the weapon. Diggs was

1945
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 3: their best receiver last year. I don't think he would

1946
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,759
Speaker 3: have been based on his season. Would have been WR

1947
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 3: one for a lot of other teams. Now there were

1948
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 3: I'm not saying no other teams. There would have been

1949
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 3: plenty of teams that he would have been that.

1950
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: So now I think WR one came about through fantasy football.

1951
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 6: Right, there's no doubt.

1952
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 2: And fantasy football is all about stats. So if you're

1953
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,560
Speaker 2: looking at it from the true origin of it, it

1954
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 2: would be who has that? That's why I liked his explanation.

1955
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 3: Is is it a guy who is the number one

1956
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 3: guy that he like generates coverage, he dictates the other

1957
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 3: team's matchups, And that, to me is a true I

1958
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 3: hate the WR one nonsense that that's a true number

1959
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 3: one receiver. Is a guy who the other team goes

1960
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 3: in and says, when we're talking about their passing game,

1961
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 3: that's the guy.

1962
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 10: We have Tuesday players.

1963
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, when they get into the game plan meeting on Tuesdays,

1964
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 9: who's circled on the depth chart?

1965
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 10: And I think.

1966
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 2: Diggs was that.

1967
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 6: Diggs was that for the Patriots.

1968
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think, you know, like he's not Jefferson

1969
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 3: or Chase or Well.

1970
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 10: I think that those guys.

1971
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: YEA.

1972
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 2: The answer has to be the answer is who do

1973
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,600
Speaker 2: we take out? Has to be a tough answer to

1974
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 2: be a WR one. If it's an easy answer, he's

1975
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 2: not a true WR one.

1976
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 9: I think the first part of the answer is a

1977
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 9: coverage dictating receiver, somebody that's at the top of the

1978
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 9: depth chart that we either have to put our number

1979
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 9: one corner on him, if we have a stud corner,

1980
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 9: we have to double them.

1981
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 10: Whatever.

1982
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 3: A true number one receiver, like a true star number

1983
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 3: one receiver beats the double team. I was just gonna say,

1984
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,600
Speaker 3: right like that, that's the definition is Yeah, that's the

1985
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:12,759
Speaker 3: guy you identify, but you can't.

1986
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 6: Take him out.

1987
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 2: It's a problems too good, right problem?

1988
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 3: Like I got a true number one receiver is JSN

1989
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 3: Pooka Nakua like a guy that just you can double them,

1990
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 3: but Pokku is getting open and getting the ball.

1991
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 10: Anyway, Let's let's.

1992
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 8: Play a little game then, because I was wondering, like

1993
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 8: how many actual number one receivers are there in the NFL.

1994
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 6: And that's why I also liked his.

1995
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,759
Speaker 3: You know, what do you say, like sixteen or seventeen,

1996
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 3: because I would say probably half the league.

1997
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's just asked.

1998
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 6: No I liked I liked his.

1999
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 9: That's why I think the different thing with Digs, Like

2000
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 9: Diggs is a number one receiver for the last year

2001
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 9: in my opinion, but he wasn't beating double teams anymore.

2002
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, when they took him out.

2003
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 3: He was out, whereas some of these other guys that

2004
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 3: do this is going to ratt along.

2005
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 8: But just like so, just going in order of receptions

2006
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 8: from last year, JSN and Puka top two, right, I

2007
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 8: was number one, number one, George Pickens the number one one.

2008
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 6: I would say Cede Lamb is their number one.

2009
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 8: Jamar Chase definitely, yes, Emon Ross, Saint Brown, Yes, Trey

2010
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 8: McBride is the.

2011
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 4: But they Flowers No, no, well.

2012
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 2: Hold on Flowers.

2013
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 3: I was the number one receiver like Diggs is. Yeah,

2014
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 3: they like, here's the volume yet. But also but they

2015
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 3: don't have a number one receiver.

2016
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,719
Speaker 4: That's part of the Probably Nico Collins.

2017
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 6: Nico Collins is number one in my book.

2018
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's a number one receiver.

2019
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 4: William except against Amra is their number one.

2020
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 10: Yeah, Cede Lamb, Yeah.

2021
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 6: Lamb the Cowboys number one.

2022
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 2: I think he is the number one. He produces, he's

2023
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: we all agree. Yeah, but they were saying on your

2024
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 2: shows yesterday that.

2025
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 6: They hate everybody in the league socks. They're like when

2026
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 6: they leave repaid this.

2027
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm not saying that he's like, you know,

2028
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 9: I get what his shows are saying about his competitiveness

2029
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 9: and all that, But talent wise, he's a top ten.

2030
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 4: Receiver in Justin Jefferson, Yeah, Portland Sutton.

2031
01:26:58,360 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 6: No, No, So I don't think he is.

2032
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 3: I think he's a number one receiver. Yes, I don't

2033
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 3: think he's their number one, but he's not.

2034
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 4: Elite in the League one. Dale Robinson, No, No, that's

2035
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 4: my tech.

2036
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 3: McMillan, Yes, trending.

2037
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,640
Speaker 6: McMillan is number one receiver upwards.

2038
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 4: Dafon Diggs number sixty.

2039
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 1: Yes.

2040
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 4: In receiving, DeVante.

2041
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 6: Smith Davante Smith No nastic.

2042
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 4: Classic classic, Robin almost threw all the thousand of my receivers.

2043
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 4: Michael Wilson of Arizona had a thousand yards, A J.

2044
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 4: Brown Yes, yes, and Alec Pearson then a Mecca Buca

2045
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 4: rounds out the I would say trending.

2046
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 6: I would say no on both of those, but I

2047
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 6: think Abuka could.

2048
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 2: Be that Deebo. Samuel used to be in his prime,

2049
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 2: but not anymore. He's available, right.

2050
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 9: He's Hopkins Cooks who are just perpetually free agency.

2051
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 6: Samuel, to me is the poster child.

2052
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 3: And it actually worked exactly the way everybody said it

2053
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 3: would when the when the Niners were like running him

2054
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 3: out of the back and he was all pissed about.

2055
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 6: It, and everybody's like, this guy, this guy's getting killed.

2056
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 3: There's no way he's gonna last and not exact narrate everybody.

2057
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 2: Said he was saying it.

2058
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 3: No, I know, but everybody agreed and you know, yeah,

2059
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 3: it's it's played out exactly like that.

2060
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 6: He's a shell of his former self.

2061
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 2: L from Wisconsin says the beauty of emails is that

2062
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 2: Fred can choose to ignore the ones that makes the

2063
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 2: same points. The problem with calls is when someone calls

2064
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 2: in today saying, Hey, what do you guys think about

2065
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 2: a J. Brown Fair?

2066
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 4: Would you create enjoy one?

2067
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 6: Mailer?

2068
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 2: Oh, I like that. I like the crime. It's lovely,

2069
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 2: it's delicious. I'm here for Zach in New Hampshire. What's up, Zach?

2070
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 2: He yes, yes, it's just I.

2071
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 20: Just wanted to get Evans take on Harold Perkins Junior,

2072
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 20: the linebacker from LSU potentially as like a chess piece

2073
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 20: type of guy. Know, dak Kore likes the scheme uplets,

2074
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 20: just wanted to get your take on that.

2075
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 2: Why don't you want my take on him?

2076
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 10: It's a good question.

2077
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 13: Well I'll take.

2078
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 9: I don't know who he is, Go ahead, Evan, Yeah,

2079
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 9: he was somebody that was really hot that during like

2080
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 9: the start of the college football season. He's kind of

2081
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 9: fallen off into a Day two pick now kind of

2082
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 9: like a hybrid player.

2083
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 10: It can play a little bit.

2084
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 9: Off the ball, on the ball, athletic dude, a good

2085
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 9: coverage player. I don't hate the player, but something has

2086
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 9: been off with him. Didn't have a great season at LSU,

2087
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:33,560
Speaker 9: and then he kind of fell down the board a

2088
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 9: little bit as we've moved on here, you know, going

2089
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 9: into college football season last fall, like some people are

2090
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 9: like Harold Perkins, top twenty player in this class, and

2091
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 9: now we're looking at him as like a Day two pick.

2092
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:47,600
Speaker 9: So put him in that group, you know him, Jacob Rodriguez.

2093
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 9: You know all those linebackers are kind of in that

2094
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 9: Day two cluster. He's in that group, wouldn't you say?

2095
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: Though?

2096
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 8: You know, when Bill's defense, it was hard to kind

2097
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 8: of pin that spot, like he wanted bigger dudes on

2098
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 8: the inside. And now it just feels like these guys

2099
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:02,600
Speaker 8: are more in play, Like I don't think built in

2100
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 8: one hundred years with draft Rodriguez, even though he's probably

2101
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 8: for special teams, but like, these guys can play in

2102
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 8: this vable.

2103
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 2: So Seth, what's your take on him?

2104
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 20: I mean, I really like him. Obviously, the freshman was

2105
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 20: considered a top ten pick, one of the top players

2106
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 20: in the nation, and then tour the ACL and has

2107
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 20: had two down seasons, but he played the star position

2108
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 20: at LSU, so I think, you know, you can really

2109
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 20: move him around.

2110
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 15: I think he's a freak.

2111
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 20: And then one more I just wanted to know about.

2112
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 20: You saw Jeremy Bernard as like a younger Deebo Samuel. Yeah,

2113
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 20: and then I'll take it off here.

2114
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 9: Than Okay, thanks ch Yeah, I see him a little

2115
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 9: bit different than Deebo. I think he's more of a

2116
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 9: complete receiver than Debo, but not not the ballcarrier that

2117
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 9: Debo was coming out. But yeah, he's smooth, like he

2118
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 9: looks like he's like running around in it's effortless. Uh,

2119
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 9: really good change of direction, really good at the top

2120
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 9: of the route, efficient mover. There's something about his play

2121
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 9: strength and just sort of his physicality that's lacking. He's

2122
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 9: the not have very good numbers on like contested targets,

2123
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 9: finishing in traffic, finishing through contact, like all that kind

2124
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 9: of stuff that does matter in the league a lot

2125
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 9: more than it matters in college. So that's sort of

2126
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:14,839
Speaker 9: the knock on him. But I think he's trending towards

2127
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 9: fringe top fifty. Ye know, I'll be a second rounder

2128
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 9: for sure.

2129
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,679
Speaker 2: Tom and New Jersey is a quick would you rather

2130
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 2: gain ready? Would you rather wide receiver? Brandon Ayuk or

2131
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 2: Juan Jennings.

2132
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 4: Jan I think Brandon Ayuk's career is done?

2133
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Alex Pierce or A J. Brown, Alec Alec

2134
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 2: Pierce Now yeah, boy Mafe or kay Levon Chason.

2135
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 6: I'm going to say, chase him because he was here

2136
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 6: and I know it worked.

2137
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 10: I'm with you.

2138
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 2: I like Kobe Dean or Devin Lloyd, Devin Lloyd Isaiah

2139
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 2: likely or.

2140
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 3: I like Nikobe Dean. I'm going to be okay, I

2141
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 3: like I saw him who k probably Kate.

2142
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:04,640
Speaker 6: I don't know out I'm not. I'm not enamored with

2143
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 6: either one, but.

2144
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 2: Last two reguards left guards Isaac.

2145
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 9: Or Joe so Sue Malo's younger. Yeah, but Tonio is

2146
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 9: like a like a dig situation, like you're going to

2147
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 9: get him for a year, and that would.

2148
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 6: Be my only question. I know both of those names,

2149
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 6: I didn't know.

2150
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 8: I mean, coming from San France, is that more like

2151
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 8: a wide zone kind of guys? I mean they're different.

2152
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 8: I mean I believe Pittsburgh. Am I confusing him?

2153
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 10: Yeah?

2154
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, No, sum Malo is a good player, but I

2155
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 9: think he's probably going to make some money.

2156
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 6: I think those guards are going to cash in.

2157
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're always looking at I don't know twelve.

2158
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 2: Speaking of Edwards, that's the next one, Zion Johnson or

2159
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 2: David Edwards Edwards Edwards.

2160
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 9: I don't understand this Johnson. Yeah, he's been terrible. I

2161
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 9: don't I have no idea why he's in this cluster

2162
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 9: of playing.

2163
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 3: You remember when like all of the Chargers offensive linemen

2164
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 3: were hurt and Justin Herbert got killed last, Zion Johnson

2165
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 3: was in there.

2166
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 9: He was and he was the starter, like he was

2167
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 9: the day one starter at that position and was a

2168
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 9: turnstile no offense.

2169
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 6: All right, huh not really.

2170
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 2: Danny's in Daytona. What's up, Danny?

2171
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 5: Hey, what's up? Fellas? How y'all doing today?

2172
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 2: Hey?

2173
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 5: So I just wanted to give you two quick takes.

2174
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:22,680
Speaker 20: Hey.

2175
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys heard of Paul or

2176
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 5: Evan or Fred or Mike, if you guys heard about

2177
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 5: the I saw the report a couple of days ago

2178
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 5: about Vederian Lowe. They were saying how Vderian Lowe has

2179
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 5: kind of grown a market. You remember we all were

2180
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 5: talking about how crazy, how how terrible he was in

2181
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 5: twenty four and then he you know, gets a new

2182
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 5: coaching staff and Josh comes in and this guy looks

2183
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 5: pretty good of Will's absence, and now people are There

2184
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 5: was an article I was reading from Neston and I'm like, dang,

2185
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 5: this guy, I mean, he did play well, and I'm like, man,

2186
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 5: the Patriots probably should bring him back. But then there

2187
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 5: was some reports the National Forts saying, you know how

2188
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 5: these uh, Evan brought up that guy from green Bay

2189
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 5: and that guy was terrible as as in the lineup

2190
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:09,560
Speaker 5: for green Bay. That's why he's going to be available.

2191
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 15: He was the PFF.

2192
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 5: PFF had him greater in the sixties, sixty percent left tackle.

2193
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 6: Walker is a starter though he's not.

2194
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

2195
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 12: But he is.

2196
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,799
Speaker 5: Definitely I would never want Evan in his uh announce

2197
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,680
Speaker 5: me the comparison about maybe possibly at Pate looking that

2198
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 5: I said I would not want.

2199
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2200
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if Evan said that too, but that

2201
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 3: was you can blame me on that one. I'm the

2202
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,799
Speaker 3: one that brought up and I would I would absolutely

2203
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:37,959
Speaker 3: be interested in him.

2204
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 5: No, I would not. Yeah, I would resign.

2205
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 6: I don't really care what his PFF g He that.

2206
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would. I would be calling I would Resigningerian

2207
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 5: low before I'd be calling that guy into the building.

2208
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 6: One guy starts in the league and the other guy

2209
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 6: doesn't like Yeah, but I.

2210
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:57,719
Speaker 5: Mean Vaderia Lowe. You know he's the building.

2211
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,719
Speaker 6: No, no, no, I'm just saying the players like Vedarian Lowe

2212
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 6: packers better player.

2213
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's a better player. I just for the Patriots.

2214
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:08,719
Speaker 9: Unless you're kicking Morgan.

2215
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 3: I was looking, well, I was not cooking kicking. I

2216
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 3: was kicking Campbell inside.

2217
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:16,839
Speaker 6: But now that's all a point because they're pretty adamant

2218
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:17,719
Speaker 6: that that's not happening.

2219
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotcha.

2220
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, like I said, if we were bringing maybe

2221
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 5: Walker on the right side, but no, if you were

2222
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 5: going to just wap them for Campbell, I have no

2223
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 5: interest in that. Like Burke Tanne was saying, like, that's stupid.

2224
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 10: Well, we're not doing that, so we can move on.

2225
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 6: Then I'm moving Will Campbell, so we don't need to

2226
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 6: discuss it.

2227
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 5: And then the other topic I wanted to bring up

2228
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 5: that I keep the meaning to bring up all during

2229
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 5: the offseason. Carlin Hurten made a really good point. A

2230
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 5: lot of young teams have failed, you know, the main

2231
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 5: cause while we see a lot of quarterbacks across the

2232
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 5: league have failed in the NFL is because they haven't

2233
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 5: had the three successful kes. And you know what those

2234
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 5: three p's are good play caller, good protection, and dynamic playmakers.

2235
01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 5: If you don't have those three p's, you see the

2236
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 5: Patriots are the longest time when we had Mac Jones,

2237
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 5: we failed them. They didn't give him a good offense line.

2238
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 5: You guys talked about this during that time. Bill was

2239
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,719
Speaker 5: reluctant on paying top receivers big money. He was stuck

2240
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 5: in the past, and then he kept trying to bring

2241
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 5: his boys in people he knew he was reluctant and

2242
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 5: bringing good people into call plays besides Josh after Josh

2243
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 5: took off, and you see a lot of teams have

2244
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 5: that same issue. They keep re kicking the can of

2245
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 5: these old play callers or play callers who don't adapt

2246
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 5: to the game and then they don't get They may

2247
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 5: have one or two good playmakers, but I think if

2248
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 5: you look at the great teams like the LA Rams,

2249
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 5: the Eagles, you feel the list goes on. The Kyle

2250
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 5: Sanahans of the world. They have these dynamics. It's the scheme.

2251
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 5: They don't they don't.

2252
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 9: Was one of the worst coordinated offenses in football, and

2253
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 9: the guy got fired.

2254
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I'm saying over collectively, when they had Kelly Moore,

2255
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 5: they were good. He saw once Keller Moore left, Keller

2256
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 5: Moore is the scheme guy, and calling hurt made that analogy.

2257
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 5: When you have Kyle Shanahan isn't just a good head coach,

2258
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 5: He's a scheme guy. Anybody you can plug just I mean,

2259
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 5: you can take a jag and put him in the system.

2260
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 5: He can make it work because he knows how to

2261
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 5: scheme people in and make it work. The only team

2262
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 5: he had really good struggle with major struggles. And he

2263
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 5: even came on the NBC broadcast he said was the Seahawks.

2264
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 5: He just couldn't crack McDonald's defense.

2265
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 11: He could, he said.

2266
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 5: He admittedly on the broadcast a lot of people thought, oh,

2267
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 5: Kyle Shannan should go into badcast and if he good

2268
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:29,679
Speaker 5: stout coaching. He was like, man, I just couldn't crack

2269
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 5: the Seahawks defense. But he's his scheme is just and

2270
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 5: calor herd. Instead of sending he says the Shanahan's of

2271
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 5: the world and mcveigh's they have really good scheme and

2272
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 5: you can take really good average Jack Blairs and plug

2273
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,639
Speaker 5: him in, or you can have elite players like Devontae

2274
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 5: Adams who they have and Puka Nukuga who's you know,

2275
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 5: are freaking all pros and you know, Pro Bowlers and

2276
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 5: stuff like that, and they make him look even better. So,

2277
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 5: I mean, Patriots need to get back. We have we're

2278
01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 5: putting together the play call, and I think Josh, I

2279
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 5: think they need to bring in a senior offensive guy

2280
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 5: into kind of help him because he a.

2281
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 8: Senior offensive guy for a guy who's been an offensive

2282
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 8: coordinator for twenty five years in the league.

2283
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2284
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 5: No, I think because he does because he kind of

2285
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:13,680
Speaker 5: gets stuck in his ways. And the reason I say this,

2286
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:15,839
Speaker 5: it's it's not maybe he.

2287
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:16,679
Speaker 2: Is a junior guy.

2288
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 8: How much of it, though, Danny, do you think is

2289
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 8: that Drake May was in his first year of the

2290
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 8: system and that Josh couldn't unleash everything that he knows

2291
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 8: onto that player.

2292
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 6: It's just unbelievable.

2293
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 5: Mike, you're right, but I leave you with this. I

2294
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:31,720
Speaker 5: leave no, I leave you with this. You need a

2295
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 5: reason you bring another voice, And I thought I wanted

2296
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 5: him to bring in Greg Rohman was a terrible offense corner,

2297
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 5: but damn that guy can freaking like Colin hurts it.

2298
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 5: He can call. He knows run constips. And the one

2299
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 5: reason that got him ran out of Baltimore's he didn't

2300
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 5: know how to scheme a pass. He couldn't scheme passing plays.

2301
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 5: He knows how to get dominant run game out of

2302
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 5: quarterbacks and the running backs and moving the sight ends run.

2303
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 5: I think you bring in a guy that's still there

2304
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,520
Speaker 5: to Greg Roman, that has a real good run game background,

2305
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 5: and you bring him into the building and say, hey, look,

2306
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 5: I want you to come up with run game concepts,

2307
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 5: not that I can't do it. I just want you

2308
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 5: to focus on calling run game concepts, and on game

2309
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 5: day we'll mix that in and we'll mix my play

2310
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 5: calling with the passing game, because obviously the run game

2311
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 5: was the Patriots plague all year. I mean, you look

2312
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:19,799
Speaker 5: at Travon Henderson, he looked like what's his name, uh,

2313
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 5: the guy from the Seahawks Walker. He's a one trick pony,

2314
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 5: but the only his only best quality was.

2315
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 3: Was all And I believe I disagree with a no. No,

2316
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:38,720
Speaker 3: I don't just necessarily I just don't even know so

2317
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 3: where we have an issue at play caller. And I

2318
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 3: don't say he didn't have a run opinion. I'm just

2319
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 3: saying I disagree with I'm seriously disaster. I I thought

2320
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 3: about what you just said, though, Deuce a little bit.

2321
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,680
Speaker 3: Just like by the end of the season, you know,

2322
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 3: you're watching the Patriots offense, and you're watching it and

2323
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 3: like there's just a lot of repeat plays, right, Like

2324
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 3: they're just kind of in the same buttons over and

2325
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 3: over again. And you know, great play callers, especially guys

2326
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 3: that have two weeks to prepare for something like the

2327
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, they're going to sort of fit pick up

2328
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:11,520
Speaker 3: on these tendencies and figure out what your core concepts

2329
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 3: are and all that kind of stuff. And it did

2330
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 3: not maybe because you know, of what you were talking

2331
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 3: to me about, Like how much was it that they

2332
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 3: just had a bunch of young guys out there then

2333
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 3: they just couldn't open up the playbooks, so to speak,

2334
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 3: in the way that maybe they can move in.

2335
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 1: No.

2336
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,480
Speaker 10: No, I mean I haven't really talking about the quarterbacks.

2337
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, because we talk about going into this season, was

2338
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 8: that now it's all going to be on Drake. Drake's

2339
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 8: gonna have to make the calls of the line. Drake's

2340
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:38,720
Speaker 8: gonna have to call the protections out. Do you think

2341
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 8: that Mike McDonald's screwed with that a little bit and

2342
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 8: was able to get him on some things and get

2343
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 8: him in his own head a little bit.

2344
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 10: Yes, Yeah.

2345
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:49,640
Speaker 3: I thought the offense had a tremendous season, from the

2346
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 3: play caller to the performance of the players on the field.

2347
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 3: I thought they maximized what they had, Like the whole

2348
01:40:57,200 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 3: thing started with Quarterbacks get failed when they don't have

2349
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 3: basically everything at an elite level, right right, Well, I

2350
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 3: don't really need a quarterback then, Like if I have

2351
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 3: like great players at every level and I have great

2352
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 3: play callers, like I need the quarterback to be able

2353
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 3: to do a little bit more than that for the

2354
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 3: most part, because there's no real perfect situations.

2355
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 9: In the run game stuff like last season is the

2356
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 9: outlier for Josh McDaniels. McDaniels has always had a really

2357
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 9: good running game statistically, and so has Rabel. I mean,

2358
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 9: obviously Derek Henry.

2359
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 3: That's the last thing I want, by the way, But

2360
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:33,719
Speaker 3: I think last year was you know, even in Vegas

2361
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 3: when with Josh Jacobs led the league in rushing in

2362
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:38,679
Speaker 3: McDaniels is only full year in Vega.

2363
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 2: From a mental standpoint, was last year a wasted year

2364
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 2: for Drake May.

2365
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 10: A wasted year?

2366
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:46,599
Speaker 6: No, just the opposit.

2367
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 2: I don't mean when I say last year, I mean

2368
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 2: his first year, his rookie year.

2369
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 8: No, No, No, But I think he's it's a lot

2370
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 8: more about twenty twenty five now and going forward to

2371
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:58,800
Speaker 8: being in this offense using that as well.

2372
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 2: Like, I think he worked on a lot of you know,

2373
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 2: fundamental things I see learned about. Was there anything that

2374
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 2: he could have taken mentally from four and applied it

2375
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 2: to five? Or was he starting over?

2376
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 3: Sure?

2377
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,679
Speaker 8: No, I mean I know what you're saying, different scheme,

2378
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 8: but just being in an NFL game and understanding the

2379
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:19,160
Speaker 8: flow of the game and.

2380
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 4: You know what's going to be required of you and

2381
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 4: how hard it is to win.

2382
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:23,720
Speaker 8: But I get what you're saying Fred about, like, you know,

2383
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 8: did he schematically learn things playbook wise?

2384
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 4: I mean probably a little bit. I mean you're still

2385
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 4: throwing similar concepts.

2386
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 6: We'll just take it a step further.

2387
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 3: Let's just say, for argument's sake, hypothetical happens and Josh

2388
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 3: McDaniels needs to resign tomorrow and they need to bring

2389
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 3: in some guy who not not Ashton Grant or.

2390
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 6: Todd Downing or Thomas Brown. Thomas Brown.

2391
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 3: That you have to go outside and someone comes in

2392
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,080
Speaker 3: and has a completely different offense? Was last year a

2393
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 3: waste for Drake may Well?

2394
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:52,520
Speaker 2: But what if it taught him how to read defenses?

2395
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 1: Right?

2396
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:54,919
Speaker 6: You don't think you got taught how to read defenses

2397
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 6: the year before.

2398
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2399
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 6: Is this another one of those things that guy's not

2400
01:42:58,439 --> 01:42:59,560
Speaker 6: here anymore? So now he was?

2401
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 2: I tell you, I thought last year, like the whole

2402
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 2: calling at the line was not last year. I keep

2403
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:08,560
Speaker 2: saying last year four. It wasn't his responsibility to make it.

2404
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 3: It was different his responsibility. But the guy who comes

2405
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 3: in next year, like in this hypothetical might not ask

2406
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 3: him to.

2407
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 6: Do that either.

2408
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 2: I know, but I'm just saying, but he learned about it,

2409
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 2: did he? How do you not learn in oh four

2410
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:24,679
Speaker 2: making calls at the line is no.

2411
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 6: No, no, no, You learn how to play the game.

2412
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 3: I don't care what you do playa facing defense.

2413
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, I think in twenty twenty four there was a.

2414
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:41,959
Speaker 9: Lot less on him mentally, both at the line of scrimmage,

2415
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 9: and also post snap because they had a lot more

2416
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 9: preer progression reads in that offense and not as much

2417
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 9: coverage reads. So I think in a lot of ways,

2418
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 9: Josh mcdaniels's offense was a step up from maybe like

2419
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 9: graduate level to like PhD, you know, or doctorate level

2420
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 9: of offense. But I don't think that that necessarily means

2421
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 9: that you didn't learn anything in twenty four. It's just

2422
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,879
Speaker 9: a different level of different style of offense.

2423
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 3: I would hope anyway, if he didn't, if he didn't

2424
01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 3: gain experience and learn something from it, that's a bad sign.

2425
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 10: Now, I think he definitely did.

2426
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 2: Adam and Louisiana says Evan is wrong. Oh, Harrold Perkins

2427
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 2: is not a good coverage player. I graduated from LSU

2428
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:22,759
Speaker 2: and watch every LSU football game. He moved from an

2429
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,679
Speaker 2: on the line player as a freshman to an off

2430
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 2: ball linebacker because he's too small for edge. He has

2431
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 2: looked completely out of place at linebacker. He's no instincts

2432
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:33,760
Speaker 2: for coverage and isn't great against the run. His best

2433
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,680
Speaker 2: position as being a QB spy.

2434
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:41,240
Speaker 6: Interesting, Okay, that's it.

2435
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're gonna you're gonna.

2436
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 10: Like if he has an opinion. He has an opinion.

2437
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:49,720
Speaker 3: Okay, along every game along those lines, I had a

2438
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 3: lot of people watch every game. I don't know if

2439
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if you caught this, but late last

2440
01:44:55,000 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 3: week there was a little Twitter thing where some guy

2441
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 3: was in an argument on Twitter.

2442
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 6: What saying that happens?

2443
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:09,679
Speaker 3: This has been Christian Watson's whole m o. He does this,

2444
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 3: this and this, and he's always hurt and he was

2445
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 3: a one trick pony in college. I've watched every game

2446
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:19,720
Speaker 3: that he's played. And he was arguing with Christian Watson's

2447
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 3: father on Twitter. He goes, well, actually, I'm Christian Watson's

2448
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 3: dad and I've seen every game he's played at every level,

2449
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,640
Speaker 3: and you don't know what you're saying.

2450
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 4: I hope he didn't back down. He's like, yeah, all

2451
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:36,839
Speaker 4: due respect.

2452
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:39,799
Speaker 2: I still think, Paul, is that what you call being ratio?

2453
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 6: If you say so, I don't know that term.

2454
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:45,559
Speaker 2: They don't use that anymore on Twitter.

2455
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 3: Ratio ratio. I've never heard that yet. That doesn't mean it's.

2456
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 9: Being ratio means that there's more replies to your tweet

2457
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 9: than there are likes on your tweet. So like when

2458
01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 9: you have a really bad take and you get ratio.

2459
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 9: That means that your applies or outnumber the people that

2460
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 9: agree with you, because a like is usually seen as

2461
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:07,719
Speaker 9: like an endorsement, like that good take.

2462
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's been about it.

2463
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll bet you falls into that category.

2464
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 2: I don't even know why he posts anything.

2465
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:18,520
Speaker 10: I mean, immediately a pious.

2466
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:21,680
Speaker 4: I feel like Benvolan's purposely Yeah, I think you are

2467
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 4: just he's.

2468
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:26,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, just like Paul Shows, just poking.

2469
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:29,760
Speaker 3: You guys make fun of me because I'm always being

2470
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 3: critical and now you guys are beating up on poor Ben.

2471
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 2: Let's see Adam in California. What's up Adam?

2472
01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:40,679
Speaker 11: Hey, how's it going? Guys?

2473
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 2: Okay everything.

2474
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 11: I watched the show every every week. I just wanted

2475
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 11: to give my quick take when it comes to a.

2476
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 6: I'll give me one second, all right, We'll take your time.

2477
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we have all day.

2478
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:53,600
Speaker 6: Get back to us.

2479
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:56,639
Speaker 11: When Yeah, a lot of people are talking about Alec Pears.

2480
01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 18: He's a great player, but.

2481
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 11: Honestly, I just don't see him in that level. And

2482
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 11: if aj Brown would be out, like why not, if

2483
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 11: you're going to shoot for the stars, why not give

2484
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 11: Minnesota a call? I know it sounds crazy.

2485
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 22: But when you look at Minnesota's position, they're literally like.

2486
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 11: Fifty million over the cast base.

2487
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 22: They have no quarterback Justin Jefferson. It's been like two

2488
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 22: years already that he's been like frustrated. So and you

2489
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,840
Speaker 22: see Minnesota selling pieces, So why not give him a

2490
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 22: call and see hypothetically a what would it take to

2491
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 22: get Justin Jefferson that you guys?

2492
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 9: Okay, I think that those types of calls happen every year.

2493
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:35,640
Speaker 9: It's worth a call, and they say it's either a

2494
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:38,559
Speaker 9: straight click he does they are nothing or are you here? Well,

2495
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 9: if you're willing to trade us four first round picks

2496
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 9: or whatever the maximum is, then.

2497
01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:45,599
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, well, no one wants to give a first

2498
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 3: round pick?

2499
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:47,680
Speaker 2: And what is it?

2500
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 3: What is Philadelphia looking for? Supposed to be a one

2501
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 3: into three in a player? Yeah, I heard one player,

2502
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:55,560
Speaker 3: one in two in a player? No one wants to

2503
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 3: give that for a J Brown? What do you think

2504
01:47:57,520 --> 01:47:58,799
Speaker 3: Minnesota would accept?

2505
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 2: Get to deal a one.

2506
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 4: One one probably and a player You're probably right?

2507
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 6: Three ones?

2508
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sounds right.

2509
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 8: But I do it just to uh yeah, avoid having

2510
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 8: to talk about it anymore.

2511
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 6: It's worth a call.

2512
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 4: We got a number one?

2513
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no in Toronto. I don't get why Paul and

2514
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 2: Evan have such a hard time understanding why fans felt

2515
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 2: like digs twenty million cap hit was too high. It's

2516
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 2: about opportunity cost.

2517
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 6: Cop hit was twenty six.

2518
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 2: When someone says that Saint Kim's twenty million is too large,

2519
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:31,440
Speaker 2: they're implicitly saying that they like to spend those resources elsewhere.

2520
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 2: Of course, cap numbers can be manipulated to a large extent,

2521
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, Craft cannot put

2522
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:39,759
Speaker 2: infinite resources into the roster. Would you rather have Digs

2523
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 2: to say Jalen Phillips, Paul, don't say both. At some

2524
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 2: point there's a limit on the amount of resources the

2525
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 2: team is willing to spend on the roster. If you

2526
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 2: want Digs and Phillips, then there has to be a

2527
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 2: cut made somewhere else. I have repeated that.

2528
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 9: I have repeated that point for three weeks, so I

2529
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:58,560
Speaker 9: don't really like so Yes, that's the other side of

2530
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 9: the argument is opportunity costs.

2531
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:00,959
Speaker 10: Absolutely.

2532
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 3: I'll take Jalen Phillips, but I need to know what

2533
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 3: you're doing a wide receiver who's Digs's replacement. See the

2534
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 3: thing that I push back on is. Everybody says, I

2535
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 3: don't want to pay Stefan Digs twenty million dollars this year. Okay,

2536
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 3: well you have to pay somebody something to replace Steffan Diggs.

2537
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 3: What is that going to be? That's what my comparison is.

2538
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 3: My comparison isn't what the best edge rusher available on

2539
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 3: the market. My comparison is, I'm going to now have

2540
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 3: Darnell Mooney playing my volume wide receiver instead OF's fond

2541
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 3: Steffan Diggs. And it's going to cost me thirteen million

2542
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 3: for Mooney, it would have cost me twenty. I'll take

2543
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:41,600
Speaker 3: Digs to me.

2544
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 2: Sports would be a lot more enjoyable to follow if

2545
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:46,679
Speaker 2: we weren't talking about money all the time.

2546
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 3: If you just do it the way evident I do

2547
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 3: it and ignore that part of it because it's not ours, right,

2548
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:56,639
Speaker 3: then you can just sort of abilit way what makes

2549
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 3: you better.

2550
01:49:57,960 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 4: There's a way to make it happen. I mean, it's

2551
01:49:59,880 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 4: just it's you know, but I guess everybody enjoyed to.

2552
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:03,719
Speaker 2: Treat contracts like hippo.

2553
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 6: Tom Brady.

2554
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 3: This is all This is all Tom Brady's fault because

2555
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 3: Tom Brady won at an exceptionally high level for an

2556
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 3: exceptionally long period of time, and it didn't matter who

2557
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 3: the pieces were, so you could fit them in with

2558
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 3: the cheapest ones that you could get. The problem is

2559
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 3: not everybody's Tom Brady, and it doesn't work like that

2560
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 3: for most teams.

2561
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 9: I do think that this in a way the organization

2562
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 9: has learned that in the last five ors.

2563
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt they changed.

2564
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:36,559
Speaker 9: Because I think that the way that they've been willing

2565
01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:38,599
Speaker 9: to go to the top of the market at wide

2566
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:42,240
Speaker 9: receiver really since Elliot Wolf started making decisions around here.

2567
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 10: Now, they haven't always landed.

2568
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 6: They haven't landed, but they're trying.

2569
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 9: But they've been trying all every single offseason since Elliott

2570
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 9: Wolf took more power.

2571
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:52,439
Speaker 3: Last year one hundred and seventy five million in guaranteed money,

2572
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:53,799
Speaker 3: they said, in free agency.

2573
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 6: That's a lot of money.

2574
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:57,759
Speaker 8: That's that's what's exciting to me about this little pocket

2575
01:50:57,800 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 8: and time of Like you said that, that's what I've

2576
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 8: been thinking about. They've been in on all these guys,

2577
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 8: I mean Calvin Ridley's and the Brendan and I I mean,

2578
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:05,679
Speaker 8: they take swings at all these guys. I'm sure they're

2579
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 8: taking a swing on every single one of these guys,

2580
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:11,679
Speaker 8: Jacket and Abba. For the love of God, does anyone

2581
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:14,640
Speaker 8: remember how the Seahawks trash the Patriots offensive line in

2582
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 8: the Super Bowl. This talk that wide receivers should be

2583
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 8: the patriots number one offseason.

2584
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 2: Priority is madness.

2585
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 10: Why not both?

2586
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 2: The number one offseason priority is offensive line and the

2587
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:26,439
Speaker 2: Patriots need at least two new players to fix it.

2588
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:29,679
Speaker 6: So here, I don't think you're wrong.

2589
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:34,000
Speaker 3: I think the offensive line struggled, Okay, might they not

2590
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 3: have struggled as much if the wide receivers were better?

2591
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:40,559
Speaker 2: Right, It's all, It's all one thing.

2592
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 6: You know, did Drake hold the ball a little bit?

2593
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 6: What did you look sure of himself?

2594
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 4: Might they look better if Drake knew it was coming?

2595
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 3: And maybe if Drake played better, the offensive line would

2596
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 3: have looked better. Maybe if the receivers uncovered quicker, Drake

2597
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 3: would have played better in the offensive line would have

2598
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 3: looked better.

2599
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:55,760
Speaker 10: I just I don't know why. It's not both, it's

2600
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:56,519
Speaker 10: it's everything.

2601
01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 2: But if you have to pick on top, you know.

2602
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 10: But why do I have to pick a top?

2603
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 2: Because he asked you?

2604
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 6: Okay?

2605
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:04,639
Speaker 3: But if I had to pick a top wide receiver, right,

2606
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:07,959
Speaker 3: exactly like every offensive line says.

2607
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 2: You can't have one.

2608
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 3: Because every single time I asked Mike Rabel, Elliott Wolf,

2609
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 3: what what are your needs this offseason?

2610
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 10: Depth across the roster.

2611
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 2: It's never that.

2612
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 3: No, No, they they did they afterwards they'd said playmaker's

2613
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 3: offensive line edge. But they're just saying, like, don't lose

2614
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:29,120
Speaker 3: sight of the fact that we need to improve the

2615
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 3: whole thing. So like when people say, you know, why

2616
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:34,880
Speaker 3: are we prioritizing offensive line over wide receiver, they're not.

2617
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:37,439
Speaker 3: They're they're trying to get better at both areas and

2618
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 3: that's possible.

2619
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 2: But he didn say what they're doing. He just wants

2620
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:42,879
Speaker 2: to know what should be the priority.

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01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 3: My pick is wide receiver. Yeah, if I can only

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01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:49,639
Speaker 3: say one thing, that would be my choice. I spent

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01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 3: the whole year and everybody telling me how much better

2624
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:55,080
Speaker 3: the offensive line was, and then they had a horrific

2625
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, and I'm going to overreact to that. Now,

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01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:01,639
Speaker 3: according to you, not me, the offensive line is mid. Sure,

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01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,280
Speaker 3: but it was I was told it was a lot

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01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 3: better than where I was told all year that it

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01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:08,559
Speaker 3: wasn't an issue, wasn't mid in at So now all

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01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 3: of a sudden, all these people like we have to

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01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 3: get at least two new offensive linemen. Right, He's not.

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01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:16,720
Speaker 3: He's not an outliar that the emailer but a lot

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01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:17,439
Speaker 3: of people believe.

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01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:19,719
Speaker 8: But in our defense, the only positions we're really talking

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01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 8: about this offseason our edge wide receiver and offense.

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01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 2: Unless Moses retires. I think you need one new You.

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01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 4: Need a left guard and need the left guard Evans thing.

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01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 4: I'm a rubber stamped at one hundred percent. I would

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01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 4: love it.

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01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 8: I would just love, you know, the David ed Edwards signing. Great,

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01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 8: you know, plug him in. Let will just compete inside.

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01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 8: You know why why don't you see it?

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01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 1: Could?

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01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 6: I think it would be too much, too much money.

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01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:43,160
Speaker 3: And I think that they it's the guard market. We're

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01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 3: not asking you to pay him thirty million dollars a year.

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01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 3: Go give David Edwards nineteen.

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01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 2: I would do you even have to do you even

2649
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 2: have to go to the top of the list. Now,

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01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 2: can you get a solid guard if you want to

2651
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 2: get down the list?

2652
01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 3: I think I don't want to like to just have

2653
01:53:57,920 --> 01:53:59,559
Speaker 3: a guy who's as good as the guy I have.

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01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 9: I think that any one of the guys besides maybe

2655
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 9: Zion Johnson, no disrespect is better than.

2656
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 2: Is better because I clows my mind.

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01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 9: It really bothers me. And we're running at time, but

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01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:13,880
Speaker 9: it really bothers me. When we're sitting on my couch

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01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 9: on Sunday watching the combine and I in Rapaport's face

2660
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 9: comes up on the screen and he sells me that

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01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 9: Zion Johnson's gonna make twenty million dollars a year on

2662
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 9: the open market.

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01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 6: I think these guards are going to make a lot

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01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:25,480
Speaker 6: of money.

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01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 3: Okay, But I'm looking at it and I'm like, first

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01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 3: of all, if you're watching this right now, you're like

2667
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:35,560
Speaker 3: the nerd of the nerd of football world. It's offensive

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01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 3: line workouts on a Sunday in March.

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01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:40,720
Speaker 6: I probably did not watch any of this, fair enough, okay.

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01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 3: So, like he comes on the screen and he's like,

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01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 3: not a lot of people have probably heard of David

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01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:46,560
Speaker 3: Edwards and Zion Johnson, and I'm like.

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01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 6: So, I'm sorry, they're ridiculous.

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01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 3: Everybody watching has heard of those two players. And then

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01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 3: he tries to sell me that they're gonna pay Zion

2676
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 3: Johnson twenty million dollars a year.

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01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:57,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know what the numbers are going to be.

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01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

2679
01:54:58,840 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.

2680
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:01,800
Speaker 3: There's going to be a market for those those guys.

2681
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,400
Speaker 3: You know the bills have the center to McGovern. Yes,

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01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 3: I think there's going to be a market. First being

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01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 3: over twenty million.

2684
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:10,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, so well Underbaum is a great player.

2685
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 3: Right, but I think these interior offensive linemen are going

2686
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 3: to make some money.

2687
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 2: All right, We're going to wrap up the show with

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01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:16,880
Speaker 2: Sam and Connecticut.

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01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 10: What's up, Samm?

2690
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:21,959
Speaker 18: I do things?

2691
01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 3: Uh?

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01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:26,600
Speaker 21: First, I had a minor correction. Uh still, getting ratio

2693
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 21: isn't like more replies than like life. It's when someone replies.

2694
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:34,280
Speaker 9: And they just get a lot more like than the original,

2695
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 9: like tweet disagree.

2696
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:38,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I have no idea.

2697
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 21: Yeah, that's just like the general consensus I think for it.

2698
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 21: But anyway, the question I had, I don't think so

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01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:53,240
Speaker 21: Casey Concepcion from sex A and M. I was just wondering,

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01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 21: what role does he kind of play as a receiver

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01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 21: like an x y Z and who do you think

2702
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 21: he would replace? Taking like big spot Z. Yeah, and

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01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 21: that's all I have.

2704
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 4: Now you'd be a digs in training, Yeah, dig z

2705
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 4: spot moving around. You know somebody.

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01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 9: Getting ratio social media slang for a post usually on

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01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 9: X that receives significantly more replies and comments than likes

2708
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 9: or shares, signaling widespread disapproval or backlash.

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01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 2: Backlash, whoa you dropped the phone?

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01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 4: Drop the phone?

2711
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 2: The phone? I think we have a topic Alex for

2712
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 2: the newsletter ratio ratio, and then maybe you could do some.

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01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 10: Other I just told you what it means.

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01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 4: Can I actually before we wrap up?

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01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:37,720
Speaker 2: According to who is there?

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01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:38,879
Speaker 6: Me ai?

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01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 1: Everybody?

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01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 8: Hey, I uh, any chance we have to hop in

2719
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:45,960
Speaker 8: here at all on Monday when free agency stuff's going on?

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01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:48,400
Speaker 4: Emergency emergency I.

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01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 2: Don't know, is there? So would you consider a J Brown? Like, yes, yeah,

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01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:55,760
Speaker 2: that news I think that would be a face so

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01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 2: there might be AJ Brown.

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01:56:58,120 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 6: Acquiring a J Brown to me would be emergency pod worthy.

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01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 3: Okay that's just my view, but I'm always looking from

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01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 3: the hodays.

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01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 2: We're going to wrap it up for that, don't hope

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01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 2: everybody has a good weekend. Thanks for watching. We will

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01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 2: see you next Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Hey, this is Matist. Thanks for tuning into the show.

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01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:22,880
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01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:25,400
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Speaker 23: or Spotify. Also make sure to follow us on the

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01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:30,160
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2735
01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:31,919
Speaker 23: everything else here that we do at the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Thanks a lot.