WEBVTT - Ep 2: The Therapist

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<v Speaker 1>This show contains adult material and swearing.

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<v Speaker 2>You have been warned.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of my best friends are like some of the

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<v Speaker 1>most mentally ill people in the world. Thank you, you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Not Dan thinking he's my best.

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<v Speaker 3>Friend, not great, He's thinking I'm mentally ill.

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<v Speaker 2>Around me, I'm a savage. Are you bored of modern dating?

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<v Speaker 1>Meeting the same people from the same apps in the

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<v Speaker 1>same bar You've only chosen because it's close to your

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<v Speaker 1>house and you can make your usual quick getaway. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time to change the narrative on how we find love.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time to start looking for love in all the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong places. I'm going on a wild dating adventure, only

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<v Speaker 1>picking people who are the total opposite of my type.

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<v Speaker 1>And after twenty eight of these dates in two months,

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<v Speaker 1>will I find that special someone? Or well, this experiment

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<v Speaker 1>proved I should just give up on dating altogether.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time to find out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Grace Campbell and this is twenty eight dates later.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan, Welcome to the twenty eight dates later.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Who are you? And what do you do with your life?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you sound out my therapist. I am done. I'm done.

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<v Speaker 3>Why Daniel Patrick Francis, Why.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I didn't know those your middle names.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah they are. And I am a comedian. I work

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<v Speaker 3>mainly in like comedy cabaret. I have a drag character

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<v Speaker 3>called Seance where I do like a comedy seance, I

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<v Speaker 3>contact the dead. But then I was sorted to stand

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<v Speaker 3>up with myself. I'm six foot four and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>I like long walks from the beach and long dicks

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<v Speaker 3>in my mouth. Yeah, I'm here looking for love in

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<v Speaker 3>all the wrong places. How would you introduce.

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<v Speaker 1>Me someone who's like on and off bullied me since

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<v Speaker 1>I was like eighty years old. Yeah, rarely says a

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<v Speaker 1>nice thing about me, but like one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>people in the world because I'm toxic, So that's perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love the abuse.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the abuse. I actually do really want to

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<v Speaker 3>know who you want on a date with This week.

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<v Speaker 1>This week I went on a date with a man, well,

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<v Speaker 1>with a man who's becoming a therapist. Okay, with a

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<v Speaker 1>man who's training to be a therapist. And there are

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<v Speaker 1>some benefits in my head of going out with a

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<v Speaker 1>therapist because of how much money I've paid for therapy

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<v Speaker 1>in my life, of course, and it would be economical,

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<v Speaker 1>but also I I worry that going out with a therapist,

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<v Speaker 1>they're either over therapizing you or you think they're not,

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<v Speaker 1>and then therefore you think they're about therapists.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, because I guess it's like, so, how much

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<v Speaker 3>is someone's job like bleed into your relationship and how

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<v Speaker 3>much should that happen? Do I mean, like, I mean, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like card as a therapist. If you're dating like someone

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<v Speaker 1>like us.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's like if I date a carpenter, you are

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<v Speaker 3>making me a table exactly. I'm dating a builder, you're

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<v Speaker 3>putting up the shelves. Yeah, I just don't do hard labor.

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think a lot of therapists have had some

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<v Speaker 2>deep trauma.

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<v Speaker 3>But how do you know that, because you can't ask

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<v Speaker 3>therapists that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because I know a lot of therapists.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's like to do to start wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>be a therapist, often something's happened to you where you

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<v Speaker 1>have then benefited from therapy. And so actually this is

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<v Speaker 1>a really interesting job for me. And to be an analyst,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the Freudian like way of therapy, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do analysis five times a week. So an analyst

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<v Speaker 1>also sees an analyst five times a week.

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<v Speaker 3>How much money would you pay to hear what your

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<v Speaker 3>therapist says about you?

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<v Speaker 2>A lot, a lot of them. I think about it often.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I think when I'm talking that he's just sat there,

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<v Speaker 3>like with his little notebook and he's just writing danis

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<v Speaker 3>so fair, danis so fair, over and over again. You know, like,

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<v Speaker 3>what was it like red Rams. It's like that he's

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<v Speaker 3>just writing downs Denis.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel, No, he's probably just writing, well, must must

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<v Speaker 1>buy eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so rare beans, must buy beans?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Why does this pathetic bitch think they shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>single all the time? And they hear what comes out

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<v Speaker 3>of their mouths?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to a therapist, we must sound so self involved.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's what you pay them for.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know, but I sometimes get conscious of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but then I'm like, no, I carry on. Okay. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was a man called Jacob.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the only bitch I saw before I met

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<v Speaker 1>him was the one of him with like goggles on

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<v Speaker 1>his head and no top on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh they're not googles. Yeah, that was the only one

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<v Speaker 2>I saw.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was a good looking, great bone structure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got really good bone structure. Yeah, jaw yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>he was very good looking.

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<v Speaker 3>But sometimes I just wish I had a bad jaw,

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<v Speaker 3>Like sometimes I think I'm a mussive because I've got

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<v Speaker 3>a pouch under my fucking chin.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the more superil baby, David Bough, I'm so sorry

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<v Speaker 3>for this. Like a kangaroo.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, oh okay, okay. So he didn't have a pouch

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<v Speaker 2>under his gym.

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<v Speaker 1>He had like a really really well structured face, very

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<v Speaker 1>slim looking face.

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<v Speaker 3>Like slim in a hot like rock and roll way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, Like have you watched Daisy Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>the six okay, like the main guy and that has

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<v Speaker 1>a tight face.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, literally like like.

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<v Speaker 3>Sickly Victorian child, but make it poorn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly, No, literally, I'll come on your face.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't come up there, mother, is that allow us to

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<v Speaker 3>come up there? But I'll come on your face.

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<v Speaker 2>He actually looked quite Victorian, this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>He does.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he does look quite Victorian. But you're training to

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<v Speaker 2>be a therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm trying to be a therapist.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of therapy?

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<v Speaker 3>Psychotherapy, counseling, that sort of thing. So listening to people.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool. What made you want to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, yeah, I had therapy myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course, so is the trajectory.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean for me, I had like like nineteen,

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<v Speaker 4>had big old depressive breakdown, had a year off UNI right,

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<v Speaker 4>therapy was great. I'm twenty eight, yes, god quite young.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you will be a therapist when you're thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think people will be like you're a bit

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<v Speaker 2>young to give me therapy?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Potentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you think though, if my therapist was thirty, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, fucking.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my therapist was my age, I'd be like, what

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<v Speaker 3>the fuck do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, literally, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>You're spending your weekends masturbating and crying of like watching Netflix.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't try me with that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I would really be like arks.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I wouldn't pay.

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<v Speaker 2>A thirty year old to do my therapy.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>Not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm paying my therapist because of thirty year.

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<v Speaker 2>Old exactly know what I mean? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>I need it to be like an old, dumpy woman

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<v Speaker 3>because actually my therapist is like really fit and game.

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<v Speaker 2>How old is your therapist?

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<v Speaker 3>I've never asked, but I'm assuming. I'm assuming maybe in

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<v Speaker 3>his forties. I used to have a therapist who used

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<v Speaker 3>to fall asleep in my sessions. I used to vape

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<v Speaker 3>and then fall asleep in my session.

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<v Speaker 2>How would you see?

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<v Speaker 3>He was older, he was like in his sixties. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sat there talking about my daddy issues.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, man is like vaping sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's like dad, look at this, look at this.

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<v Speaker 2>I can do a bomb.

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<v Speaker 3>My therapist was the caterpillar and that Alison would have loved.

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<v Speaker 1>I sometimes feel like to be a therapist, your life

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<v Speaker 1>is so draining that like, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>can you really give like your partner that much when

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<v Speaker 1>you see like seven clients a day who were all

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<v Speaker 1>like going through so much shit. I mean, I also

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<v Speaker 1>worry if I was dating a therapist, I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a better therapist than you, and so you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be a therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that is also the relationship of like

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<v Speaker 3>the therapy relationship. And also to be fair, I say

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<v Speaker 3>this about like a therapists, but listen more. I just

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<v Speaker 3>told your story about my therapist vaping and falling asleep,

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<v Speaker 3>which is like most of.

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<v Speaker 2>My exes exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Just smoke and ignore me. Love that love you all,

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<v Speaker 3>shout out all my exes love you all. Maybe one

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<v Speaker 3>time my therapist and one needs to ape and fall asleep.

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<v Speaker 3>He once saw me perform Sayance with his daughter and

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<v Speaker 3>in that show I Get my balls out?

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<v Speaker 2>Did he come like did you invite game? When I

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<v Speaker 2>Got my balls out? He came all over you invite him?

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<v Speaker 3>I think he kind of mentioned it and it was

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<v Speaker 3>his daughter's birthday and I was like, yeah, sure, But

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<v Speaker 3>like afterwards, I was like, that's actually crossing a boundary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's quite weird.

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<v Speaker 3>You see my balls on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had a therapist who like acknowledges any of

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<v Speaker 1>my work.

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<v Speaker 3>Really. Yeah, that's a good thing, because your work is trash.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your friendship group at school?

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<v Speaker 3>Like my friendship group at school?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, were you like, were you like an indie boy?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? We were, like we were kind of Indian between us.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just really popular. Really, yeah, ship. I was

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<v Speaker 2>like the poshest girl in my year but.

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<v Speaker 3>Was friends with everyone, right, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then had like my you know, very different friendship

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<v Speaker 1>friendship groups really, but they're also my best friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to kill myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, if you had said that to me on a day,

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<v Speaker 3>I would have walked out before you would finished the sentence,

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<v Speaker 3>would have walked out. I was really popular. I was

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<v Speaker 3>the poshous girl I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was popular for a posh girl. It's basically my point.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't the most because you no. No, No, I

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<v Speaker 1>was because the posh girls in my school were less popular.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I had the tallest horse. My horse was taller

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<v Speaker 3>than everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't actually tell anyone at school I had

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<v Speaker 1>a horse, because that would have meant that I wasn't popular.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have put a horse in secret.

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<v Speaker 3>That is so an essex. I love that though, because

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<v Speaker 3>actually to do what I find those like school dynamics

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<v Speaker 3>live forever. I was saying to my friend the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>I was saying that because for us at school, because

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<v Speaker 3>I was kind of like mean and popular, but in

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<v Speaker 3>that way that I was in the closets, so I

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<v Speaker 3>had to be mean to people so they weren't so

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<v Speaker 3>mean to me, right, So I always hung out of

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<v Speaker 3>like the cool, like pretty girls. Sometimes I'm jealous of

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<v Speaker 3>people who were maybe more nerdy at school because they

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<v Speaker 3>had like obsessions and things that they loved. Where it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you were more popular, it was all about socializing.

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<v Speaker 3>So now I grow up and I just care a

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<v Speaker 3>lot about what other people think, because like that has

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<v Speaker 3>been my entire evolution as a person. Like I speaking

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<v Speaker 3>to my other friend of the dayho just had a baby,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was so that she cares more about like

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<v Speaker 3>what the waitress thinks in the restaurant about her being

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<v Speaker 3>a mother than like her partner, and I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that as well, but I also think it's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think those people who also had hobbies at

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<v Speaker 1>school were not really conscious of what people thought of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby. It's like when people say the best yearsual life

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<v Speaker 3>are at school, Are you mad?

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<v Speaker 1>I got a war on my nose at school, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody said a rude word about it to my face,

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<v Speaker 1>like people were so scared of you were popular? No,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody said anything, And I said it was a

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<v Speaker 1>rice crispy, And then all people said was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, how's your rice crispy?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean you said it was because it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like a rice crispy on the end of my nose.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm literally about to be sick anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So then I got the water removed. You get it

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<v Speaker 2>from and off. If you've ever ever had a war.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really relatable.

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<v Speaker 3>Star.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's I had one on my hand. Obviously I

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<v Speaker 1>had gone like that. Actually that year I was playing

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<v Speaker 1>Beatrice as well. Much Ado. Anyway, do a number five,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's another story. So anyway, the day I went

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<v Speaker 1>to go and get my war removed, I went and

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<v Speaker 1>got it frozen off. It's a very standard procedure at

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor. But I took my mum's phone afterwards, and

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<v Speaker 1>on my mum's phone texted all of my best friends

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<v Speaker 1>being like, really bad news and Grace's operation went really

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<v Speaker 1>wrong and she's actually died.

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<v Speaker 3>Shut off.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Anna, Ella, Emily and they were all on

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<v Speaker 1>the heath being like, oh my god, Grace is dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Like oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like all hang out and well Grace is dead.

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<v Speaker 1>And then like ten minutes later, I was like, psych.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it in die? You fucking idiots?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, they were just like on the heath singing ding dong.

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<v Speaker 3>The witch is said.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually handed in my notice really congratulations, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 4>last week and then what you're leaving? I'm moving back

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<v Speaker 4>to my old company.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very like gen Z Millennial.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone there is like on the thirty five nice.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of them my graduates.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, So it's very social. Yeah, that's nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone knows they're living under the thumb of capitalism and

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<v Speaker 4>they keep that aware.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, you don't really look like botseritive capitalism.

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<v Speaker 2>I could like the thumb. Yeah that's true, that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah from his daddy. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>What, what's your.

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<v Speaker 4>You're can ask my political the first day? Oh my days,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a red flag.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, I think it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, just quickly, when he says that's a red flag,

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<v Speaker 3>is he telling you that he's a communist. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know why he thought there was a red flag to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about. I mean, you don't want to be like

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<v Speaker 3>what three months in and find out you're dating like

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<v Speaker 3>a toy.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a term the other day called woke fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right have you heard this term? So it's basically when so.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just putting anything in front.

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<v Speaker 2>Of fishing no I know. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, So it's basically a girl that I met and

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<v Speaker 1>she was like a sort of like she's like feminist

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<v Speaker 1>and like quite like outspoken and stuff. And she started

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<v Speaker 1>seeing this guy and he was like, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing what you do. I think it's amazing that you

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<v Speaker 1>like your blah blah, sort of making her feel like

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<v Speaker 1>he's like on the same page as her. Then they

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<v Speaker 1>went on holiday together and he was like, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you something.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a conservative.

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<v Speaker 1>But she said that like they've been seeing each other

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<v Speaker 1>like two months, and there was no sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>sign of that because he'd been woke fishing her.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was a new phrase.

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<v Speaker 3>But then also like, how can you trust that man

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<v Speaker 3>because he's lied to you for two months? I know,

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<v Speaker 3>what is the basis of trust?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you ever date a Tory because.

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<v Speaker 3>You're political, Like it's so important how you see the world,

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<v Speaker 3>Like if those things don't line up, then I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's really difficult, like when there are discussions about things

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<v Speaker 3>on different pages. I did once accidentally suck off a

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<v Speaker 3>Tory in the park, okay, but I didn't realize that

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<v Speaker 3>here was a Tory. I think, like I was, I

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<v Speaker 3>was sucking him.

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<v Speaker 2>When did you find out during?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it was during.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I was sucking him off and he was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that's good. Oh And I was like, okay, I'm sucking

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<v Speaker 5>off Nigel Thornbury like it's actually disgusting, and he kept

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<v Speaker 5>being like you naughty boy, and I was like, this

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<v Speaker 5>is actually but then the worst part is that, like

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<v Speaker 5>afterwards I realized that I'd been kneeling in nettles, no

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<v Speaker 5>bitch nettles. So then I had to be like sacka

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<v Speaker 5>jaweya and was there like, hey, can you have me

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<v Speaker 5>find a dot leave? And we were like rubbaging for

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<v Speaker 5>like adult leave, but he didn't even help. It is

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<v Speaker 5>this Tory man watching me find a dot leave with

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<v Speaker 5>common my chair.

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<v Speaker 2>Could I get the plant burger but without fries?

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<v Speaker 3>The fries?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, then you can have the Yeah, okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>we'll just get the number one. Okay, thank you. It's

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm meant to be on a diet.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you doing that to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Because when I've been on tour, I've been like eating

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<v Speaker 1>so much shit and drinking every day. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to like feel a bit healthier. It's not really diet,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more like I want to be healthier.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean to be honest, Like I listened to

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<v Speaker 3>that and I was like, and the award for the driest.

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<v Speaker 2>Chat goes to Grace Campbell.

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<v Speaker 3>Goes to Grace Campbell with the plant burger talking about

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<v Speaker 3>how she's not gonna eat fries because she's on a diet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, make that makes me that bit makes me sound

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<v Speaker 1>like quite dry, I'll be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>Dry as a plant burger.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dry as a plant burger, which was dry as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And also then the chips came, and I regretted saying

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<v Speaker 1>he could have my chips because I wanted the chips.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like, I'm not going to have one

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<v Speaker 1>of his chips because it will make him think like

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<v Speaker 1>this is more deep than it is if I have

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<v Speaker 1>one of his chips.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I actually have this disease. Doctors have recently told me, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't help but order a side of chips as

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<v Speaker 3>well as the chips I get in the meal. Like

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<v Speaker 3>that's actually a disease that I might die from.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you know what I mean? Like if I

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<v Speaker 1>leant over one of his chips, he'd think were like

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<v Speaker 1>fancy was given lady in the tramp. No, it's giving

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it's too intimate to have.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not giving lady the tramp. It's given and give

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<v Speaker 3>it one of.

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<v Speaker 2>Those it's giving grabby grabby oliver twist.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you got to pick a pocket or yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You a dumper or a dumpy or a mix.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm definitely more like we argue and then we're

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<v Speaker 1>like if this isn't working, but then we talk every

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<v Speaker 1>day for like six months after we break up.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of Oh right, okay, you've never had like a

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<v Speaker 4>clean break Oh I missed a clean breakup.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, that's why you're a therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>Dump or dumpy. I prefer people to dump on me.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the question what like emotionally or like with ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Scat scat, are you the dumper or the dumpy?

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<v Speaker 3>More so get dumped? I think I just don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to hurt someone, so I like often wait for I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if I could do it, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 3>like I think it'd be.

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<v Speaker 2>So awkward, it's so awkward.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't. There's been a few times where i'veet,

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<v Speaker 3>like just use one of those lame excuses being there

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<v Speaker 3>like it's going for a bit of a hard time

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment, which sometimes obviously is true, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Like most of the time that isn't true though.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, but like when you receive that message, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to believe it's true or else you are going

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<v Speaker 3>to lease.

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<v Speaker 2>I never believe it's true when people say it.

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<v Speaker 3>I always do.

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<v Speaker 1>I really, I'm just because it's not a reason you

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<v Speaker 1>can be in a bad You definitely can, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, I'm often in a really bad place. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not ever an excuse for my poor behavior. So you

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<v Speaker 1>normally dump no no, no, no no no. I've been very,

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<v Speaker 1>very a lot dumped, But more recently I've had to say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really not looking for a relationship right now, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you've come out of a serious relationship, and often

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<v Speaker 1>then you meet people and maybe like which I get,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in that place where like I want it

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<v Speaker 1>to escalate like fast, but I'm just so not there

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<v Speaker 1>that I have had to say, And that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a lie because when people say that to

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<v Speaker 1>me in the past, like I'm really sorry, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I can't be in the relationship right now, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just not in that place because like whatever, like trauma

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<v Speaker 1>of a past relationship whatever. I used to think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a lie a bit like people being like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just in a bad place, But now because I've experienced.

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<v Speaker 2>That, like, I really do believe it when people say that.

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<v Speaker 3>So your flip flopping is what you're saying right now.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because I just try and say from the get

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<v Speaker 1>go now unless maybe we are soul mates, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if I even believe in that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's also like, all because your anxiety is pequing

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean you had to think I'm my best mate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I mean. That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I'm in some really mentally bad ways, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't behave in some of the ways that men have

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<v Speaker 1>tried to excuse their behavior for on their mental health

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. I just don't love it as an excuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Like some of my best friends are like some of

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<v Speaker 1>the most mentally ill people in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, you're welcome. Not Dan thinking he's my best.

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<v Speaker 3>Friend, not great thinking I'm mentally ill.

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<v Speaker 1>But they would never be like I'm sorry I've been

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<v Speaker 1>like they would never do something shitty and like it's

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<v Speaker 1>because of my mental health, Like it's not fair.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your ideal date?

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<v Speaker 3>To be honest? Student comedy is Yeah, that's good. I

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Likes a good way to measure what someone's like as well,

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<v Speaker 1>seeing like what they find funny.

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<v Speaker 4>And also like because I just enjoy it, I'm like, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>something funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 4>I do feel quite lucky as a man, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 4>because I feel like the average woman you meet on

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<v Speaker 4>a day is worse going to be a little too

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<v Speaker 4>self obsess maybe a little bit too, but that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is when.

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<v Speaker 1>You're dating men, you're putting yourself up or going on

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<v Speaker 1>a date with a fucking freak who likes or not

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<v Speaker 1>even that, but like you know, this whole thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing, it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>You just never know what you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean this is definitely a good one

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<v Speaker 1>because it's the normal conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So like was it a vibe? Was it flirtatious?

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<v Speaker 3>Like was the date going?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the date was fine, it was like fine fit Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a fine day. But I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like one of those things. So you know

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<v Speaker 1>when you're on a date and you bump into someone

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or like you get talking to someone else

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<v Speaker 1>and you wish you were hanging out with that other person.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you ever have that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, So like that happens to me quite a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, Like when I'm on date, it's is

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<v Speaker 1>like I'll be on a day and I'll either get recognized,

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<v Speaker 1>which obviously happens all the time because I'm really famous,

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<v Speaker 1>or bump into someone I know, yeah, and just be

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<v Speaker 1>like I would rather be hanging out with this person

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<v Speaker 1>than the person I'm on a date with. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>a sign to me that this is not a vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not that it wasn't a vibe. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>I got recognized by this woman, and she was a vibe,

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<v Speaker 1>Like she was literally drinking like a pint of rose.

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<v Speaker 2>She had like an Instagram account which.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like all about how she's got like a completely

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<v Speaker 1>pink house, like everything her house is pink. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just loved her so much as she was absolutely like

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<v Speaker 1>pissed and it was like two in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is a classic stereotype or archetype of your

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<v Speaker 3>fan base.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know that was meant to be an insult,

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<v Speaker 1>but it didn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>It was an insult. I am a fan of yours.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also drinking a pint of rose at two o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you are, and.

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<v Speaker 3>My house is pink by house, I mean, so you're

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<v Speaker 3>saying the highlight of your date was when your fan

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<v Speaker 3>came and.

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<v Speaker 2>Interrupted yeah, it was definitely the peak. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>the peak and energy.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe that's because I prefer the energy of women

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<v Speaker 1>and gay men more than I do like straight men.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I always, even when I have a boyfriend, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I prefer being around like my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, why you always try and hit on me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I know. And it's also where my type is famously

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<v Speaker 2>gay man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm a straight woman. But thank you. That's a shame.

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<v Speaker 2>He's well, maybe you should go with him.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to. Okay, Well then I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to think about sleeping with two therapists in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like I thought, he was like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a not a bad person.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he seems like he was nice. He was not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was nice, and he seemed like a sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like healthy person.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you let him be a therapist?

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<v Speaker 2>No, because I would never have a male therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean fair, that's fair. We both know that you

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<v Speaker 3>can't go on a date with me, which is the

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<v Speaker 3>reason that you cried.

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<v Speaker 2>I muster, bitch, it was, but you came thinking about you.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you going to date of a girl I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Like to go on a date with a girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that'd be cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Find me one next time. On twenty eight dates later,

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<v Speaker 2>did his primary partner know he was going on a

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<v Speaker 2>date with you?

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<v Speaker 1>She did, okay, but you know, do you think she

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<v Speaker 1>would have been intimidated by no solid solid now.

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<v Speaker 4>Around me?

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<v Speaker 5>Savage, he can hurt it an you love.

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<v Speaker 3>The Baby.

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