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Speaker 1: This show contains adult material and swearing.

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Speaker 2: You have been warned.

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Speaker 1: Some of my best friends are like some of the

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Speaker 1: most mentally ill people in the world. Thank you, you're welcome.

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Speaker 1: Not Dan thinking he's my best.

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Speaker 3: Friend, not great, He's thinking I'm mentally ill.

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Speaker 2: Around me, I'm a savage. Are you bored of modern dating?

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Speaker 1: Meeting the same people from the same apps in the

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Speaker 1: same bar You've only chosen because it's close to your

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Speaker 1: house and you can make your usual quick getaway. It's

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Speaker 1: time to change the narrative on how we find love.

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Speaker 1: It's time to start looking for love in all the

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Speaker 1: wrong places. I'm going on a wild dating adventure, only

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Speaker 1: picking people who are the total opposite of my type.

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Speaker 1: And after twenty eight of these dates in two months,

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Speaker 1: will I find that special someone? Or well, this experiment

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Speaker 1: proved I should just give up on dating altogether.

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Speaker 2: It's time to find out.

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Speaker 1: I'm Grace Campbell and this is twenty eight dates later.

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Speaker 2: Dan, Welcome to the twenty eight dates later.

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Who are you? And what do you do with your life?

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Speaker 3: Okay, you sound out my therapist. I am done. I'm done.

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Speaker 3: Why Daniel Patrick Francis, Why.

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Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know those your middle names.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they are. And I am a comedian. I work

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Speaker 3: mainly in like comedy cabaret. I have a drag character

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Speaker 3: called Seance where I do like a comedy seance, I

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Speaker 3: contact the dead. But then I was sorted to stand

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Speaker 3: up with myself. I'm six foot four and a half.

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Speaker 3: I like long walks from the beach and long dicks

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Speaker 3: in my mouth. Yeah, I'm here looking for love in

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Speaker 3: all the wrong places. How would you introduce.

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Speaker 1: Me someone who's like on and off bullied me since

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Speaker 1: I was like eighty years old. Yeah, rarely says a

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Speaker 1: nice thing about me, but like one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: people in the world because I'm toxic, So that's perfect.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love the abuse.

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Speaker 3: I love the abuse. I actually do really want to

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Speaker 3: know who you want on a date with This week.

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Speaker 1: This week I went on a date with a man, well,

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Speaker 1: with a man who's becoming a therapist. Okay, with a

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Speaker 1: man who's training to be a therapist. And there are

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Speaker 1: some benefits in my head of going out with a

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Speaker 1: therapist because of how much money I've paid for therapy

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Speaker 1: in my life, of course, and it would be economical,

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Speaker 1: but also I I worry that going out with a therapist,

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Speaker 1: they're either over therapizing you or you think they're not,

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Speaker 1: and then therefore you think they're about therapists.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because I guess it's like, so, how much

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Speaker 3: is someone's job like bleed into your relationship and how

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Speaker 3: much should that happen? Do I mean, like, I mean, it's.

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Speaker 1: Like card as a therapist. If you're dating like someone

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Speaker 1: like us.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's like if I date a carpenter, you are

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Speaker 3: making me a table exactly. I'm dating a builder, you're

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Speaker 3: putting up the shelves. Yeah, I just don't do hard labor.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: I just think a lot of therapists have had some

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Speaker 2: deep trauma.

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Speaker 3: But how do you know that, because you can't ask

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Speaker 3: therapists that.

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Speaker 2: No, because I know a lot of therapists.

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Speaker 1: And so it's like to do to start wanting to

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Speaker 1: be a therapist, often something's happened to you where you

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Speaker 1: have then benefited from therapy. And so actually this is

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Speaker 1: a really interesting job for me. And to be an analyst,

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Speaker 1: like in the Freudian like way of therapy, you have

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Speaker 1: to do analysis five times a week. So an analyst

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Speaker 3: How much money would you pay to hear what your

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Speaker 3: therapist says about you?

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Speaker 2: A lot, a lot of them. I think about it often.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I think when I'm talking that he's just sat there,

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Speaker 3: like with his little notebook and he's just writing danis

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Speaker 3: so fair, danis so fair, over and over again. You know, like,

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Speaker 3: what was it like red Rams. It's like that he's

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Speaker 3: just writing downs Denis.

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Speaker 1: I feel, No, he's probably just writing, well, must must

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Speaker 1: buy eggs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so rare beans, must buy beans?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Why does this pathetic bitch think they shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: single all the time? And they hear what comes out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to a therapist, we must sound so self involved.

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Speaker 3: Well that's what you pay them for.

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Speaker 2: No, I know, but I sometimes get conscious of it,

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Speaker 2: but then I'm like, no, I carry on. Okay. So

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Speaker 2: it was a man called Jacob.

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Speaker 1: I think the only bitch I saw before I met

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Speaker 1: him was the one of him with like goggles on

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Speaker 1: his head and no top on this one.

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Speaker 2: Oh they're not googles. Yeah, that was the only one

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Speaker 3: I mean you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a good looking, great bone structure. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got really good bone structure. Yeah, jaw yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: he was very good looking.

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Speaker 3: But sometimes I just wish I had a bad jaw,

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Speaker 3: Like sometimes I think I'm a mussive because I've got

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Speaker 3: a pouch under my fucking chin.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you mean.

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Speaker 3: What's the more superil baby, David Bough, I'm so sorry

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Speaker 3: for this. Like a kangaroo.

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh okay, okay. So he didn't have a pouch

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Speaker 2: under his gym.

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Speaker 1: He had like a really really well structured face, very

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Speaker 3: Like slim in a hot like rock and roll way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Like have you watched Daisy Jones and

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Speaker 1: the six okay, like the main guy and that has

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Speaker 1: a tight face.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, literally like like.

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Speaker 3: Sickly Victorian child, but make it poorn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, No, literally, I'll come on your face.

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Speaker 3: Don't come up there, mother, is that allow us to

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Speaker 3: come up there? But I'll come on your face.

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Speaker 2: He actually looked quite Victorian, this guy.

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Speaker 3: He does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he does look quite Victorian. But you're training to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to be a therapist.

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Speaker 2: What kind of therapy?

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Speaker 3: Psychotherapy, counseling, that sort of thing. So listening to people.

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Speaker 2: That's cool. What made you want to do that.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, yeah, I had therapy myself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, so is the trajectory.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean for me, I had like like nineteen,

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Speaker 4: had big old depressive breakdown, had a year off UNI right,

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Speaker 4: therapy was great. I'm twenty eight, yes, god quite young.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you will be a therapist when you're thirty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a plan.

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Speaker 2: Do you think people will be like you're a bit

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Potentially.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think though, if my therapist was thirty, I'd

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Speaker 1: be like, fucking.

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Speaker 3: Oh my therapist was my age, I'd be like, what

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Speaker 3: the fuck do you know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, literally, I know.

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Speaker 3: You're spending your weekends masturbating and crying of like watching Netflix.

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Speaker 3: Don't try me with that.

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Speaker 2: No, I would really be like arks.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I wouldn't pay.

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Speaker 2: A thirty year old to do my therapy.

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Speaker 3: Honestly.

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Speaker 1: Not.

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Speaker 3: I'm paying my therapist because of thirty year.

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Speaker 2: Old exactly know what I mean? Exactly?

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Speaker 3: I need it to be like an old, dumpy woman

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Speaker 3: because actually my therapist is like really fit and game.

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Speaker 2: How old is your therapist?

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Speaker 3: I've never asked, but I'm assuming. I'm assuming maybe in

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Speaker 3: his forties. I used to have a therapist who used

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Speaker 3: to fall asleep in my sessions. I used to vape

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Speaker 3: and then fall asleep in my session.

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Speaker 2: How would you see?

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Speaker 3: He was older, he was like in his sixties. I'm

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Speaker 2: Yes, man is like vaping sleep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like dad, look at this, look at this.

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Speaker 2: I can do a bomb.

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Speaker 3: My therapist was the caterpillar and that Alison would have loved.

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Speaker 1: I sometimes feel like to be a therapist, your life

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Speaker 1: is so draining that like, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: can you really give like your partner that much when

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Speaker 1: you see like seven clients a day who were all

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Speaker 1: like going through so much shit. I mean, I also

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Speaker 1: worry if I was dating a therapist, I'd be like,

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Speaker 1: I'm a better therapist than you, and so you shouldn't

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Speaker 3: But I think that is also the relationship of like

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Speaker 3: the therapy relationship. And also to be fair, I say

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Speaker 3: this about like a therapists, but listen more. I just

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Speaker 3: told your story about my therapist vaping and falling asleep,

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Speaker 3: which is like most of.

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Speaker 2: My exes exactly.

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Speaker 3: Just smoke and ignore me. Love that love you all,

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Speaker 3: shout out all my exes love you all. Maybe one

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Speaker 3: time my therapist and one needs to ape and fall asleep.

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Speaker 3: He once saw me perform Sayance with his daughter and

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Speaker 3: in that show I Get my balls out?

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Speaker 2: Did he come like did you invite game? When I

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Speaker 2: Got my balls out? He came all over you invite him?

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Speaker 3: I think he kind of mentioned it and it was

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Speaker 3: his daughter's birthday and I was like, yeah, sure, But

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Speaker 3: like afterwards, I was like, that's actually crossing a boundary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's quite weird.

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Speaker 3: You see my balls on stage.

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Speaker 1: I've never had a therapist who like acknowledges any of

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Speaker 1: my work.

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Speaker 3: Really. Yeah, that's a good thing, because your work is trash.

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Speaker 2: What was your friendship group at school?

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Speaker 3: Like my friendship group at school?

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Speaker 2: Like, were you like, were you like an indie boy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? We were, like we were kind of Indian between us.

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Speaker 2: It was just really popular. Really, yeah, ship. I was

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Speaker 2: like the poshest girl in my year but.

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Speaker 3: Was friends with everyone, right, okay.

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Speaker 1: And then had like my you know, very different friendship

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Speaker 1: friendship groups really, but they're also my best friends.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to kill myself.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, if you had said that to me on a day,

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Speaker 3: I would have walked out before you would finished the sentence,

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Speaker 3: would have walked out. I was really popular. I was

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Speaker 3: the poshous girl I was.

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Speaker 1: I was popular for a posh girl. It's basically my point.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't the most because you no. No, No, I

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Speaker 1: was because the posh girls in my school were less popular.

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Speaker 3: Like I had the tallest horse. My horse was taller

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Speaker 3: than everyone else.

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't actually tell anyone at school I had

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Speaker 1: a horse, because that would have meant that I wasn't popular.

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Speaker 2: I'd have put a horse in secret.

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Speaker 3: That is so an essex. I love that though, because

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Speaker 3: actually to do what I find those like school dynamics

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Speaker 3: live forever. I was saying to my friend the other day.

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Speaker 3: I was saying that because for us at school, because

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Speaker 3: I was kind of like mean and popular, but in

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Speaker 3: that way that I was in the closets, so I

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Speaker 3: had to be mean to people so they weren't so

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Speaker 3: mean to me, right, So I always hung out of

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Speaker 5: find a dot leave? And we were like rubbaging for

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Speaker 2: Could I get the plant burger but without fries?

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Speaker 3: The fries?

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Speaker 3: Why are you doing that to me?

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Speaker 1: Because when I've been on tour, I've been like eating

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Speaker 3: Dry as a plant burger.

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Speaker 1: But I was like, I'm not going to have one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually have this disease. Doctors have recently told me, well,

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Speaker 2: Those it's giving grabby grabby oliver twist.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you got to pick a pocket or yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm definitely more like we argue and then we're

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Speaker 3: Dump or dumpy. I prefer people to dump on me.

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Speaker 3: I just don't. There's been a few times where i'veet,

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Speaker 2: I never believe it's true when people say it.

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Speaker 3: So your flip flopping is what you're saying right now.

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Speaker 1: No, because I just try and say from the get

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Speaker 3: Well, it's also like, all because your anxiety is pequing

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean you had to think I'm my best mate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. That's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like, I'm in some really mentally bad ways, but I

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Speaker 1: Like some of my best friends are like some of

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Speaker 1: But they would never be like I'm sorry I've been

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Speaker 2: What was your ideal date?

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Speaker 3: To be honest? Student comedy is Yeah, that's good. I

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Speaker 1: seeing like what they find funny.

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Speaker 4: And also like because I just enjoy it, I'm like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 4: something funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 4: I do feel quite lucky as a man, to be honest,

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Speaker 4: because I feel like the average woman you meet on

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Speaker 4: a day is worse going to be a little too

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Speaker 4: self obsess maybe a little bit too, but that's it.

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Speaker 2: The problem is when.

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Speaker 1: You're dating men, you're putting yourself up or going on

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Speaker 1: a date with a fucking freak who likes or not

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Speaker 1: even that, but like you know, this whole thing that

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Speaker 1: I'm doing, it's like.

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Speaker 2: You just never know what you are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean this is definitely a good one

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Speaker 1: because it's the normal conversation.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So like was it a vibe? Was it flirtatious?

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Speaker 3: Like was the date going?

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Speaker 1: Well, the date was fine, it was like fine fit Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was like a fine day. But I would say,

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Speaker 1: like it's like one of those things. So you know

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Speaker 1: when you're on a date and you bump into someone

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Speaker 1: you know, or like you get talking to someone else

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Speaker 1: and you wish you were hanging out with that other person.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever have that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So like that happens to me quite a lot,

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Speaker 1: to be honest, Like when I'm on date, it's is

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Speaker 1: like I'll be on a day and I'll either get recognized,

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Speaker 1: which obviously happens all the time because I'm really famous,

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Speaker 1: or bump into someone I know, yeah, and just be

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Speaker 1: like I would rather be hanging out with this person

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Speaker 1: than the person I'm on a date with. And that's

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Speaker 1: a sign to me that this is not a vibe.

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Speaker 1: So it's not that it wasn't a vibe. But anyways,

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Speaker 1: I got recognized by this woman, and she was a vibe,

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Speaker 1: Like she was literally drinking like a pint of rose.

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Speaker 2: She had like an Instagram account which.

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Speaker 1: Was like all about how she's got like a completely

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Speaker 1: pink house, like everything her house is pink. And I

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Speaker 1: just loved her so much as she was absolutely like

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Speaker 1: pissed and it was like two in the afternoon.

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Speaker 3: And that is a classic stereotype or archetype of your

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Speaker 3: fan base.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that was meant to be an insult,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't work.

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Speaker 3: It was an insult. I am a fan of yours.

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Speaker 3: I'm also drinking a pint of rose at two o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you are, and.

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Speaker 3: My house is pink by house, I mean, so you're

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Speaker 3: saying the highlight of your date was when your fan

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Speaker 3: came and.

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Speaker 2: Interrupted yeah, it was definitely the peak. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: the peak and energy.

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Speaker 1: But maybe that's because I prefer the energy of women

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Speaker 1: and gay men more than I do like straight men.

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Speaker 1: So I think I always, even when I have a boyfriend, like,

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Speaker 1: I prefer being around like my friends.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Also, why you always try and hit on me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I know. And it's also where my type is famously

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Speaker 2: gay man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a straight woman. But thank you. That's a shame.

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Speaker 2: He's well, maybe you should go with him.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to. Okay, Well then I don't want

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Speaker 3: to think about sleeping with two therapists in my life.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but like I thought, he was like a like

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Speaker 1: a not a bad person.

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Speaker 3: No, he seems like he was nice. He was not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was nice, and he seemed like a sort

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Speaker 2: of like healthy person.

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Speaker 3: Would you let him be a therapist?

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Speaker 2: No, because I would never have a male therapist.

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Speaker 3: I mean fair, that's fair. We both know that you

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Speaker 3: can't go on a date with me, which is the

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Speaker 3: reason that you cried.

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Speaker 2: I muster, bitch, it was, but you came thinking about you.

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Speaker 3: Why are you going to date of a girl I would.

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Speaker 2: Like to go on a date with a girl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be cute.

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Speaker 2: Find me one next time. On twenty eight dates later,

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Speaker 2: did his primary partner know he was going on a

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Speaker 2: date with you?

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Speaker 1: She did, okay, but you know, do you think she

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Speaker 1: would have been intimidated by no solid solid now.

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Speaker 4: Around me?

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Speaker 5: Savage, he can hurt it an you love.

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Speaker 3: The Baby.

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Speaker 1: is presented by me Grace Campbell, with help from Roz

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