1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: The Cardinals fall to a one in four record following 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: a thirty four to twenty loss to the Cincinnati Bengals 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon from State Farm Stadium. We're gonna break it 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: all down right here on Morning Scramble, presented by Verizen 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: from the Sea Geek Studios alongside Jody Jackson and Zach Gershman. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm Danny Siak. Was a roller coaster of the game 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. Down ten nothing, score fourteen unanswered points 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: only does accum to their own mistakes turnovers, Jody, this 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: did not look like the Cardinals team we'd seen throughout 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: the rest of the season. 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: It didn't for a couple of reasons. Danny. 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: It was like you said, they got down, which was, 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: you know, not something we've been used to. This version 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: of the Arizona Cardinals in twenty twenty three has gotten 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 3: off to a really quick start. 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: But then you're right. 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: It was a mental roller coaster because you're thinking, okay, 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 3: down ten to nothing, this could get ugly. Burrow was 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: looking you know, there were some moments he was under 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 3: some pressure, but Burrow was looking pretty good and you're thinking, okay. 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: Then when they come back, all of a sudden you're thinking, Okay, 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: this is that Cardinal team. They're doing in a little 23 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: bit different way, but they're resilient here, and you know, 24 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: and then it just went from there. Even at halftime, 25 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 3: you know, down by three, not out of reach, twenty 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: four to twenty not out of reach. Again, it was 27 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, which is becoming a little bit of 28 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: a disturbing trend for this team. 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 4: Zach Johnathan Gannon. 30 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 5: A few weeks ago, we asked him, what is it 31 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 5: about these fast starts with this offense? 32 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 4: Why have they been able to click? And it was like, 33 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 4: I don't know. And the answer and I think the. 34 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 5: Answer for why the slow start was also kind of 35 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 5: I don't know. He's talked about how the players have 36 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 5: they've come into the game starting off strong because they've 37 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 5: been ready to go. I don't question if this team 38 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 5: is ready to go. I just think this is the 39 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 5: first time that Joe Burrow looked like Joe Burrow that 40 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 5: we've been able to see over the years past. So 41 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 5: whether it was the Cincinnati offense bringing out something that 42 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 5: defense hasn't seen, or Josh Dobbs and just not being 43 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 5: able to get the rhythm going down, not fully sure 44 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 5: what it was, but didn't work out in the Cardinals favor. 45 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: Quarterback Josh Dobbs, and you did some time to settle in. 46 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: We saw a few really overthrown passes to wide receivers 47 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: to start the game. It was a different type of 48 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: game for Josh Dobbs in this offense as a whole, 49 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: who had three touchdowns, almost three hundred total yards, almost 50 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: a perfect split between the run of the pass game. 51 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: But we've seen recently the mobility of Josh Dobbs. The 52 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: last three weeks, he's had forty one rushing yards fifty 53 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: five forty eight. Sunday against the Bengals, he had just 54 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: one yard on three carries. That mobility wasn't there. That 55 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: wasn't an option for him, and. 56 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: I was expected with James. 57 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 5: With James Connor stepping out the game with an injury, 58 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 5: you would have expected Josh Dobbs to be able to 59 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 5: use his legs a little bit more in that offense. 60 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: It wasn't the case. 61 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 5: And once again, the offensive line there were okay, I'm 62 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 5: full of sacks that Josh Dobbs took he had to 63 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 5: the defense. The offensive line was struggling a little bit. 64 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 5: Although Paris Johnson Junior did statistically have a really good game, 65 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 5: but there were also like the turnovers were part of it, 66 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 5: but there were also about three or four passes that 67 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 5: could have been intercepted from Josh Dobbs. So the accuracy 68 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 5: and the balance between using that run with his legs 69 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 5: and the passing game just wasn't working on in Dobb's favor. 70 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: He didn't look as comfortable. I think the other thing 71 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 3: for me, big picture on this game was fourth quarter 72 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: and then protecting the football. Again, that's something that Josh 73 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: Dobbs had done so well. I think I saw the 74 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 3: stat flash up started his career with maybe one hundred 75 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: and thirty eight pass attempts that might be wrung. 76 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: I shouldn't be. 77 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: Thrown out numbers if I'm not completely sure, but it 78 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: was a franchise record. 79 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: I believe. 80 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: You know, pass attempts might have been one thirty eight 81 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: without a pick? Did get that? You know, this is 82 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: the NFL, You're gonna throw a pick. But then all 83 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: of a sudden it became an avalanche. Two picks, a fumble, 84 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: and you know Danny Leino in the NFL, that's a killer. 85 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: This is a Cardinals team that hadn't turned the ball 86 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: over in three weeks Sunday against the Bengals. In that loss, 87 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: quarterback Josh Dobbs with an interception, a pick six, and 88 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: a strip sack recovered by the Bengals. That's also not 89 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: including a turnover on downs that ball security that the 90 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: decision making wasn't up to from what we have seen 91 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: from Josh Dobbs and this offense. What was different offensively 92 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: that led to this performance? 93 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's what really is gonna have 94 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: everyone scratching their heads looking at the film here. I 95 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: think it wasn't a strong of a performance from the 96 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: O line as you would like. I mean, especially you 97 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: think about what they went up against last week and 98 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: were able to protect the football and so look, Josh Dobbs, 99 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: he didn't have a great game. And that happens, I mean, 100 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: you know, and we know that he's been such a 101 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: pleasant surprise. This just was a game where things weren't clicking. 102 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: Like you said, they weren't clicking early, and then all 103 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: of a sudden he appeared to get into the groove, 104 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 3: but they quickly disrupted that and so credit in some ways, 105 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: I think to that Bengals defense. But losing James Connor 106 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: didn't help. I know, you know, here we go, right, 107 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: we could talk about the injuries and. 108 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to hear it, but it is real. 109 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: It's real when you lose your running back, your defensive 110 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: backfield as well is very thin, right now, we know that. 111 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: But you know, I don't. 112 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: Think it's necessarily an excuse for why they lost the 113 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: game on offense because they were still able, they were 114 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: still able to run the ball. 115 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: De Mercado came in and did a nice job. 116 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, josh Stobbs running, that's that's something that they'll 117 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: be taking a closer look at because he's a weapon, Zach, 118 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 3: and that's something that's been clear in the first couple 119 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: of weeks. 120 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: Is a weapon. 121 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 5: And whether it was the raid option where they had 122 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 5: Micah Parsons bite heavy on it that led for that 123 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 5: forty four yard rush by Joshua Dobbs on the second 124 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 5: player of the game against the Dallas Cowboys, the fact 125 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 5: that he only had three attempts for that one yard 126 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 5: is what's really concerning. Because the Bengals defense was thirty 127 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 5: first in the NFL and rushing defense giving up one 128 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty seven yards per average per game. This 129 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 5: was one hundred and forty two in total. And I 130 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 5: understand that you lose your power back with James. With 131 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 5: James Connor and the injuries. We don't want to talk 132 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 5: about him because you don't want them to ever be 133 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 5: a thing, but they do have an impact. You see 134 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 5: it on both sides of the ball, offense and defense. 135 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 5: This team has really taking a hit. And the crazy 136 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 5: thing is we're only five weeks into the season right now, 137 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 5: and this team has not seemed to be able to 138 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 5: catch a break when it comes to injuries. But when 139 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 5: it comes back to your question with the play calling 140 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 5: or to what went wrong for the Cardinals offense, I 141 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 5: think it has to go down to the play calling 142 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 5: because Josh Dobbs is a dual threat quarterback. He's shown 143 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 5: that week after week, and three attempts is just not 144 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 5: going to cut it. 145 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: For that Cardinals offense unable to take advantage of the 146 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: weak spot in the Bengals defense. Different story for Cincinnati's offense. 147 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: At halftime, head coach Jonathan Gannon said this Cardinals defense 148 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: was the first defense all season to face a healthy 149 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, who had been nursing a calf injury. Burrow 150 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: was not on the injury report all week. He'd been 151 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: saying he wasn't mobile leading up to that point, but 152 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: was feeling better. That's what we saw from Joe Burrow, 153 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: who went thirty six for forty six three hundred and 154 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: seventeen passing yards. The connection with his wide receiver Jamar 155 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: Chase hadn't been there heading into the game. Chase hadn't 156 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: found the end zone all season, didn't have a problem 157 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: finding the end zone against the Cardinals. He had three touchdowns. 158 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: Gannon said at postgame, can't let their player be their 159 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: best player, and that's exactly what happened with Jamar Chase 160 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: and his Cardinal secondary. 161 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: Well, that's why we saw Jonathan Gannon really fired up 162 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: in his postgame press conference because you know, he was 163 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: really upset about it. 164 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: He blamed himself. 165 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: He one thing we know about JG is that he's 166 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: always gonna take it on himself and he's gonna deal 167 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: with the teaching moments inside the building, right And I 168 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: can really respect that because you know, you're not gonna 169 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: you're not gonna throw even eve a dart at your 170 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: players in the in the media. In that press conference, 171 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: but it you could tell it did upset him. He 172 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: knows that's rule number one. And yes, it happened two 173 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: weeks in a row, but we were talking about the 174 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: elite players in the league, and so that's just part 175 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: of it with McCaffrey last week and and then Chase 176 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: this week. 177 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, Joe Burrow, it. 178 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: Blew my mind the last four weeks watching them at 179 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: one in three, the fact that Burrow was not able 180 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 3: to make any deep connections. I think he was averaging 181 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: some like six and a half yards per throw. I mean, 182 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: you're like, this guy's playing hurt. It's obvious he must have, 183 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure they had a lot of internal 184 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: discussion with the Bengals front office. 185 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: Of like should we be playing him? 186 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: And he fought through it, and yesterday he did look 187 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: a whole lot better and you could tell that that 188 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: connection was back. And like you said, Danny, the huge 189 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: chunk of yardage, more than two thirds of his yardage 190 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: going to Jamar Chase, and it's just it is unfortunate 191 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: that he came back healthy in this particular game. But 192 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: I think that's why Gannon's so upset, because he prides 193 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: himself on being a guy that can can shut down 194 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: the top threat and you know you had you know again, 195 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: it's always it's always a little bit of both pressure 196 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 3: and coverage. They didn't get enough pressure on Burrow. There 197 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: wasn't enough coverage. It was kind of a mixture of 198 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: perfect storm for the Bengals. 199 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 5: And I think as a defensive minded head coach like 200 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 5: Jonathan gannon is, that's why it's so infuriating for him 201 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 5: because it was his side of the ball that really 202 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 5: allowed for the explosives to happen. Week after week, Who's 203 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 5: gonna win the explosive play battle, And in this case, 204 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 5: it was the Cincinnati Bengals large part, mostly because of 205 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 5: the connection between Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow and Jody 206 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 5: You mention it, you knew what's at some point this 207 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 5: team was gonna get right. You just didn't want it 208 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 5: to be against the Arizona Cardinals. And in this case, 209 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 5: I know Joe Burrow went into it saying his mobility 210 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 5: was a little bit limited, and although he did not 211 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 5: come out on the injury report list, you still kind 212 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 5: of expected to see it linger a little bit. 213 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: Not in the slightest bid this week. 214 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: Injuries are not an excuse. However, safety Jalen Thompson went 215 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: out with a hamstring injury did not come back in 216 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: the second half. You're already missing your starting safety and 217 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, that dynamic duo. You didn't have Defensive lineman 218 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: Jonathan Ledbetter dealing with a finger injury. That was the 219 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: second straight game he missed. When you don't have a 220 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: ton of star power on the defense and you are 221 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: missing those key components, Zach, excuse or not, that's going 222 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: to affect your play. 223 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 5: A lot of these players that came in are not 224 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 5: players that you saw the first week in Washington. And 225 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 5: if it's a player like Josh Woods who you did 226 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 5: see in Washington, you haven't seen him any other week 227 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 5: since because he's been injured. 228 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: That's why you have Kaiser White, Kavon Wallace. 229 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 5: A lot of these guys that have come in and 230 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 5: have been able to be healthy and kind of stand 231 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 5: the test. They've been able to be the ones that 232 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 5: have been able to make an impact. Kevin Strong with 233 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 5: a huge sack on Joe Burrow where you literally laid 234 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 5: the boom. He laid the boom on Joe Burrow. I thought, 235 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 5: man like that you could hear that type of hit 236 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 5: in the press box, and you hear the audible gas 237 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 5: from the State Farm Stadium fans because it was that 238 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 5: big of a hit. The players that have been able 239 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 5: to be here are the ones that continue to make 240 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 5: an impact. And that's that's not to slight any of 241 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 5: the players that just came in. And Antonio Hamilton's one 242 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 5: of those players that's able to step up. Andre Sacheriz 243 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 5: is able to step up. These defensive players have been 244 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 5: able to come in. But when you lose your heart 245 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 5: and soul of the defense and Buddha Baker and on 246 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 5: that defensive line with Johnathan Ledbetter, you already don't have 247 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 5: l J. 248 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 4: KYLEI or Carlos Watkins. 249 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 5: You have to try to be grasping for straws who's 250 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 5: able to step up. And some players did, but it 251 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 5: wasn't enough to kind of take over. 252 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's tough when you're facing an offense 253 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: like what the Bengals can be when they're going, well, 254 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: this is a team that was in the Super Bowl 255 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 3: not that long ago. This is a team that has 256 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 3: you know, Joe Burrow highest we all know about the salary, 257 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 3: the quarterback that he is. 258 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: And that he can be. 259 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean the attrition that is with the injuries, 260 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: and you talk about the defensive line, you know, I 261 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 3: go back to the Dante Stills and Ben Stilly, right, 262 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: like two guys that we didn't really know would be 263 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 3: contributing here. Certainly not Ben Stilly. Dante Still's being a 264 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: draft pick, yes, and I thought he played pretty well 265 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: early on. Again, things got away from the Cardinals later 266 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: in this game. I thought early on everyone was kind 267 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: of just trying to hold down. 268 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 2: The Ford, right, and it was working. 269 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: It just gets away when you have inexperience, you have 270 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: players that and then guys are going down again. I mean, yeah, 271 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: Budda Bick I saw a Boodha tweet before the game. 272 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: He's chomping at the bit to get back, and this 273 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: team will be so much better for it. Not obviously 274 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: what he can do on the field, but then that 275 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: leadership aspects. 276 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: Hopefully. 277 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: Jalen Thompson's injury isn't very serious. The fact that he 278 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: didn't come back though, was certainly not a great sign. 279 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: I mean, we'll know more later today, I'm sure, but 280 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 3: you know, this team has been hit really hard with 281 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 3: injuries and all on the defensive side where they were 282 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 3: already especially I mean d Wine, they were kind of 283 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: prepared with what they had. I think the defensive secondary, 284 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 3: they've had a tougher time, and it certainly doesn't help 285 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: when you have guys going down during the game. 286 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta at one point, because you mentioned Dante Stills. 287 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 5: How about this rookie class. It does not seem to 288 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 5: matter if you were drafted or undrafted, Amaro de Mercado. 289 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 5: These guys have been able to step up and have 290 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 5: been able to step in and truly make an impact 291 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 5: right away. Dante's Stills. Last week, Johnathan again and said 292 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 5: was his best performance of the season against the forty 293 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 5: nine ers. He added up, he stepped up another level 294 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 5: and got his first career NFL sacks. 295 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 4: So you gotta be excited for Dante. 296 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: Very impressive for this rookie class, all of who made 297 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: the initial fifty three man roster, which says a lot 298 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: about the front office, the coaching staff, and the personnel 299 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: on this team. Let's talk more in depth about those 300 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: players who did step up. Let's go into our player 301 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: of the game. We all unintentionally, I'm thinking about this now, 302 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: unintentionally picked a player that did step up in a 303 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: new role, which I think is pretty interesting. So we're 304 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: gonna write those down. 305 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 2: I'm like, I got to make sure I spelled his 306 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: name right. Did that give you all a hint? 307 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 3: But he's making the name here on the show, and 308 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: uh more importantly, yesterday, are. 309 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: You looking up on the rock? 310 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 3: There's a lot of vowels in this young man's name 311 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: and I'm not even spelling the first name. 312 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: Zac. 313 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: You can go first. 314 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: I'll first of all, Jody goes through the AE. I 315 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 4: owe you. I went with Kevon Wallace. I mentioned him 316 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 4: a little bit. He had an incredible game. 317 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 5: Ten tackles that he had, including an interception off Joe 318 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 5: Burrow his first We talk about a lot of first 319 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 5: Dante Still's first career sack, Keavon Wallace's first career interception, 320 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 5: and on top of that, he had that goal line 321 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 5: stand fourth than one. He made that key tackle and 322 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 5: from our c in the press box, you couldn't really 323 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 5: see if they made it they got a cross or not. 324 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 5: And to see Keevon Wallace do not even just the 325 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 5: forty yard dash, but one hundred yards sprint and run 326 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 5: all the way down to the field, you could sense 327 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 5: that he made a big play. Watching the replay, you 328 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 5: saw the type of hit that he had stopping them 329 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 5: on that run fourth and one. 330 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 4: Incredible job. 331 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 5: And after the game, I know he took a lot 332 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 5: of accountability on himself, saying that he felt he left 333 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 5: a lot of assignments on the table with Jamar Chase 334 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 5: and the type of performance he was able to have. 335 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 5: But he still got to give credit to Kavon Wallace 336 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 5: because six weeks ago he wasn't even an Arizona Cardinal. 337 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 5: He was a special teamer on the Philadelphia Eagles, and 338 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 5: now he's coming in playing key moments at safety as 339 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 5: a defensive back with a Buddha Baker out, a Jalen 340 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 5: Thompson injured, and Isaiah Simmons that was initially on the roster. 341 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: No longer on the team anymore. 342 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 5: So, this entire safety defensive back unit has changed entirely 343 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 5: over these few weeks, large part due to injury, and 344 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 5: Kevon Wallace has been one of those players to truly 345 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 5: step up. 346 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: I had that same viewpoint from the sideline on that 347 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: goal line stand of you couldn't really tell, but I 348 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: just saw Kavon Wallace takeoff, and I'm thinking, oh, that's 349 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: a pretty good time. 350 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 351 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought they got it in, to be honest, 352 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 5: because on fourth and one, when those type of power 353 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 5: players where they're able to just go in, you would 354 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 5: assume that he was gonna be able to just punch 355 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 5: it in. 356 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 4: But Keevon wall Is jumping right in and making. 357 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: The stop very impressive. 358 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: And then they stopped him on third in one and 359 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: they're like, this is okay, this is just harder. 360 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: You have to do it again. And then of course in. 361 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: Any any level, the offense always sticks their hands up 362 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: right and like you know, and so from our view 363 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: from the press box, was not nearly as good as 364 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: what you had in the sideline, and uh yeah, great play, 365 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: great play by that regardless of what happened next. That 366 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: was pretty awesome by the defense. 367 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: Did you spell checks born around? 368 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: Well, definitely, I think I got this right. Amri Demercato, 369 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: that looks right. Yeah, the first name. 370 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: Got me thrown off a little bit, but Amari, great 371 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: job by de Mercado, who uh you know, I remember 372 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: watching him in training camp and thinking, you know, I 373 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: think he can contribute at the Red and White scrimmage 374 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: and just kind of watching him, this young man out 375 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: of TCU getting his first NFL touchdown yesterday, stepping up 376 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: when James Connor could not. I believe ten rushes forty 377 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: five years and I just think we're gonna see more 378 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: and more from him. And there's the official Yes, I 379 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 3: got it, I got the spell. 380 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty I'm pretty. 381 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: Picky about my spelling, so I would have been very 382 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: disappointed in myself if I had not gotten spelling. 383 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 4: Right. 384 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: I mean, we're our journalists after all, right, So you know, 385 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: good to know that he could could come up in 386 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: that situation. And obviously with Kante Ingram, people might have 387 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: been wondering if you if you missed that. You know, 388 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: he was dealing with the neck and Dream was inactive, 389 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: so really it had to fall on De Mercado and 390 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: he did a pretty nice job. And so hopefully, you know, 391 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: James Connor's injury isn't too serious, but we're seeing De 392 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 3: Mercado grow each week. 393 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: Those are different types of running backs, James Connor and 394 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: Amari de Mercado. James Connor is that big, stout, bulldozing 395 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: running back. De Mercado is smaller, a little. 396 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: Shiftier nine I believe rights there short there wasn't a 397 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: drop off. 398 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: When Deemercanno went into the game. The Cardinals were still 399 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: able to run the ball and run the ball significantly well, 400 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: which is a great sign to see when you're having 401 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: a rookie, a third string rookie behind Kean to Ingram 402 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: and James Connor step in so seamlessly mid. 403 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 5: Game, and he beat out Corey Clement also for that 404 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 5: RB three spot. That's a Super Bowl champion that he 405 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 5: was able to beat out. And fortunately the Cardinals were 406 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 5: able to keep Corey Clement on the roster and they 407 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 5: were able to activate him from the practice squad to 408 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 5: the fifty three man both last week and this week. 409 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 5: So the fact that Amari de Mercado he stepped in 410 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 5: and he said that he spoke postgame and he said 411 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 5: he learned that in college that next game, next man up, 412 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 5: next play mentality, it's all about going to the next end. 413 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 5: Even though he got his first career touchdown, he said 414 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 5: it was a surreal moment two hundred and eighty one 415 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 5: days after he scored a touchdown, and when TCU beat 416 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 5: Michigan at State Farm Stadium as well, so he. 417 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 4: Said it was a surreal moment. 418 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 5: But they know that they have a lot of work 419 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 5: that they have to do as they head to LA. 420 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 4: But Daniel, what you got, who you got? 421 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: I went with cornerback Antonio Hamilton, who stepped up in 422 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: his own way. Hamilton got his first start of the season. 423 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: We haven't seen him a lot on defense, more so 424 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: just on specialty. He got the start over rookie cornerback 425 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: Key Troll Clark, opposite of Marco Wilson. And even though 426 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: we've talked about this secondary not having a great game, 427 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: Hamilton embodied what this team is looking for in his 428 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: individual performance, which was fight. Hamilton came out, he got 429 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: the start, He left the game early in the first half. 430 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: Was I saw him walk off the field without a 431 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: shoe on his right foot. He went into the locker room, 432 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: entered the game again as questionable after getting his ankles taped, 433 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: went into the game, had to leave the game again 434 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: being evaluated for a concussion, was cleared in the protocol, 435 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: able to re enter the game, and just a great 436 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: performance by him individually. Specifically on that same goal line stand, 437 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: it was Hamilton who got the big stop on running 438 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: back Joe Mixon on third and one from one for 439 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: a no gain. The way he was able to step 440 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: up and again fight, not only to fight as coming 441 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: in as a starter, which was a new role for 442 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: him this season, not new in his career, however, new 443 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 1: with this staff. And then again you're fighting through the 444 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: pain really with that ankle which took him out of 445 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: the game at one point. I was impressed with how 446 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: he stepped up in that role. 447 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean literally fight having to come back and forth, 448 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: you know, evaluate you know, you're thinking, if you're him, 449 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 3: you're just like trying to stay in this game, knowing 450 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: how much you're needed in that secondary, especially with Jalen 451 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 3: Thompson going down again. Different positions, but we all know 452 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: that they all work together when you're talking about game 453 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: plan and coverages. So yeah, and I think about Antonio 454 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: Hamilton early in the season not starting because it seemed 455 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 3: like last year he'd made some strides really two years ago, 456 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 3: and then last year had the burn on the foot 457 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 3: that kept him out that could have been really really 458 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: serious and luckily, I mean it was serious, but luckily 459 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: he was able to come back. But you know, he 460 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: was a guy that was elevated, certainly vance Joseph. 461 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 2: Counted on him. 462 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 3: And now you're seeing him work his way back in 463 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 3: because again, you're you're evaluated differently by each coaching staff 464 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: and Kee Troll Clark is a rookie and he's had 465 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 3: he's had some really good moments. He's had some rookie moments, 466 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: and so I love that pick Danny because yeah, it 467 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: was a tough day all around for the secondary. But again, 468 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: and I think I'm gonna I'll talk a little bit 469 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: more later in the show, but just that they have 470 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: to flush this one. But you have to take the 471 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 3: good and you can just leave all the bad behind 472 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: because this is a unique situation going up against the 473 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 3: dynamic duo Cardinals fall. 474 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: Of thirty four to twenty to the Bengals. However, they 475 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: were in this more than once throughout the game. Jody, 476 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: what was your turning point where they were no longer 477 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: in it? 478 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny, like I was going through in my 479 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: mind the turning point. I think most people would say, well, 480 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: it was the pick six, but you know, I like 481 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 3: to go a little deeper and I like to go 482 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: a little more with the timing. Yes, that was a 483 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: horrible moment because not only because the defense had just 484 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: worked so hard on third and one, fourth and one 485 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 3: to stop the Bengals on the goal line. 486 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 2: Then Joshua Dobbs come, you know. 487 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: Has that first pick of his of his season here 488 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: with the Cardinals, and it's taken right back because of 489 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: the confusion on the play. You know, obviously we saw 490 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 3: Zach Pascal Tippett and Hollywood was intended for Hollywood Brown. 491 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: And so that's been dissected. 492 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 3: Very clearly and very thoroughly last night, especially in the 493 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: postgame press conferences. But to me, that wasn't it because 494 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 3: you still had time. You sure you should have gone 495 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 3: into halftime. Now the problem with that and people say, well, 496 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 3: you could have just held the ball, could have just 497 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: you know, punted it. I mean there was a lot 498 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: of time and one thirty one twenty three. It's kind 499 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 3: of a lot of time, right for Joe Burrow and 500 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: that group, So you I could see where they wanted 501 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 3: to get out from the end zone. Okay, I have 502 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: no problem with the thought there, but you know, you 503 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 3: should have gone in fourteen to ten. You go into 504 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: halftime seventeen fourteen, you're down by three, You're still fine. 505 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, you're still fine. Not a turning point. 506 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 3: Then you know they come out and then the big 507 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: bomb to you know, kind of reminiscent of what the 508 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: Giants were able to do in their comeback. But the 509 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 3: sixty three yard passed from Burrow to Chase and to me, 510 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 3: even after that, because they came back and scored, you know, 511 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: you're still okay. But it did signify that they were 512 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 3: going to continue to hit Jamar Chase, that Joe Burrow 513 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 3: was going to lean on him, and that really did 514 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: decide the game. 515 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: So that that one was a little more of a point. 516 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 3: But for me, it was more the timing late third quarter, 517 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 3: after Rondell Moore had a forty yard gain on a 518 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 3: great play call by Drew Petsing to get down into 519 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 3: Bengals territory, they're faced with I think it was more. 520 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 3: Again it was third and seven, he got six on 521 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: the pass play, and then you're faced with the fourth 522 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: and one, and I think, you know, then there was 523 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: also the question of the you know, do you kick it? 524 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: They had already missed a kick. I don't know if 525 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 3: that was a factor. I think most coaches in the 526 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 3: NFL today on fourth and one when they want to 527 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: go for it, So I get it, they didn't get it. 528 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: Dobbs tried to go right, tried to roll. We've seen 529 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 3: that play before, it has worked in the past. It 530 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 3: didn't work right there. So to me, that was the 531 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: turning point, not only because they couldn't continue to possess 532 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: the ball there in what could have been a pivotal drive. 533 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: The Bengals got the ball back and they they took 534 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: the ball and they had it for nine minutes, and 535 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 3: that to me was the turning point. And yes it 536 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 3: benefited from the timing of it was later in the game, 537 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 3: so you know, I think that to me was the dagger. 538 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 5: It was surprising that I know Jonathan Gannetta on that 539 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 5: fourth and one, he thought it was about a yard 540 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 5: and a half closer to two, and that's why he 541 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 5: didn't do the Philadelphia tush push brother. 542 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 4: We love. 543 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 5: That's kind of been trademark and stolen all throughout the NFL, 544 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 5: but which we have seen the Cardinals adopt and use 545 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 5: it have done a really solid job using as well. 546 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 5: But it was that I think the moment when Joe, 547 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 5: when Josh Dobbs threw that first pick six, it was 548 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 5: more of like a depressing type thing because you're like 549 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 5: a Josh Dobbs been doing so well. You're rooting for 550 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 5: the guy. He's become a fan favorite all throughout just 551 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 5: for him being the type of person that he is. 552 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 5: So you're kind of like all the streaks over four games, 553 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 5: five games, and he threw his first interception. Now that's 554 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 5: a shame, and then we started to go around obviously 555 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 5: the Jamar Chase sixty three yard bomb, which was reminiscent 556 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 5: of the Jalen Hyatt bomb in the Giants game. 557 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 4: But that fourth and one, uh. 558 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 5: Definitely hurt because you start to see the tide trend 559 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 5: as we talked about that fourth quarter has really hurt 560 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 5: the Cardinals. As you're starting to go to that fourth quarter, 561 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 5: it starts to hurt a little bit. 562 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: Cardinals have been outscored fifty four to seven in the 563 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: fourth quarter of the season. Absolutely an area of emphasis 564 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: moving forward for this team and being able to execute 565 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: an entire game and in those big moments we've all had. 566 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: We've discussed how we have had quite the emotional rollercoaster, 567 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: and we were watching Sunday's game go down. So let's 568 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: put it into song of what song we think about 569 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: it from that game? In Songbirds, I need to erase 570 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: my player. 571 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 3: I'm going to take a page from Zach on this one, 572 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: actually from I think one of his theories on the choice. 573 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I forgot that I'm supposed to draw something. 574 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, how could you forget that? Because we looked for Honestly. 575 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you do look forward to it. Yeah, I'm 576 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: sure you do. It's a great laughing point for everybody else. 577 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: I don't even know what this is, but I'm going 578 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: with it. 579 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Jody, what your song? 580 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: All right? 581 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: So, just to illustrate the impact of Joey b Joe Burrow, I. 582 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: Was searching this. 583 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: Apparently there was a song by Kid Cuddy, who is 584 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 3: an Ohio guy, a Cleveland guy and best friend and. 585 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: Our producer Jacob Ortiz. He must know this, he's smiling. 586 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: You know you listen to this on your playlist here. 587 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: I haven't heard it. 588 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: That's why I said, Paige, that is that Zach last 589 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 3: week was like, I have never heard the song. 590 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: So I feel like I violated a rule. Actually, I 591 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: feel like you should welcome. 592 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 4: To the dark side. 593 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: Do we have to listen to the song before we 594 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: can choose it? 595 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 4: That's the case. 596 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's good or not. 597 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: But it's called Burrow, and I just feel like this 598 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 3: one was all about Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. But 599 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: as far as I know, he doesn't have a song. 600 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: So that would. 601 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 4: Be kind of cool. 602 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 5: A wide receiver quarterback duo that has a song ran 603 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 5: about them. 604 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 4: I think that'd be pretty neat. 605 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 5: I picked for my song. I picked running up that hill. 606 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 5: I don't know those things that I just know it's 607 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 5: a TikTok song. 608 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: This is horrible song. You put the artist as TikTok song. 609 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure Kate Kate Bush, thank you, Jim. 610 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: Kate Bush, Kate Bush one second game. 611 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: But I know your parents watching this are just shaking. 612 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 4: My parents are now watching. 613 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: This or shaking their heads through a TV show. 614 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: Strange thing, that's what it is, which made its way 615 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: to TikTok. The younger people like Zach Er for Circling 616 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: Back Young celebrated cebrate his twenty second birthday on the 617 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: show twenty third, twenty second. I'm sorry on the show 618 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: like two weeks. 619 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: Ago, Kate Bush, I knew that from the jump. Don't 620 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 4: worry about it, no, But I think the. 621 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 5: Song once again, as you could see the rules, I violated. 622 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 4: Them, violating please get our rule breaker. 623 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 5: But I think the song's indicative the title of it 624 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 5: rather of what kind of next You're running up that hill. 625 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 5: You have a lot of obstacles to climb. As NFC 626 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 5: West play continues to roll on, this is your opportunity 627 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 5: to kind of gain some ground again. But you don't 628 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 5: want to be too far behind a one. 629 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 4: And four record. It's really hard to come around. 630 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 5: And it's not saying that the teams are going to 631 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 5: make it to the playoffs, but you don't want to 632 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 5: go week after week expecting a loss. You don't want 633 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 5: to be taken lightly by every other team in the 634 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 5: NFL as you begin to play them. The Cardinals are 635 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 5: going to be running up that hill, both on the 636 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 5: field and off the field within the organization, trying to 637 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 5: make sure they put the pieces out there to try 638 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 5: to win a couple. 639 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: Football games, back to back road games against the visional 640 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 1: opponents for the Cardinals, first the LA Rams and then 641 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. I went with move Along by the 642 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: All American Rejacks, and I'm sorry, I didn't really think 643 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: about a drawing before, so I just did. Next on 644 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: an arrow, You're moving along to the next game. You 645 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: need to look at the film. You need to look 646 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: at what this team did well, what they did not 647 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: do well, and you need to learn from those mistakes. 648 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: You also need to have the mindset of quickly moving forward. 649 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: You cannot get down being one and four. You need 650 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: to continue to look ahead and stay in the moment, 651 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: stay where your feet are, and get back to what 652 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: this team does well and find a way again to 653 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: execute throughout an entire game. That was my song. 654 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 5: Mari Deverriccado said postgame that it's a long season. Still, 655 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 5: we're only five weeks and we still got an our 656 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 5: twelve games to go. My MAT's correct, and once again 657 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 5: we're not math majors here, but you still got a 658 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 5: couple more. You still got twelve more weeks ago. And 659 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be impressive to see what this 660 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 5: team is able to do because we know that there 661 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 5: are a group of fighters. They show it week in 662 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 5: and week out, and that's kind of always been the 663 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 5: theme of our songs, is something to do with fighting 664 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 5: and going on to the next and continuing to stack 665 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 5: these days. So it's gonna be really important to see 666 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 5: how this team bounces back because they saw the fire 667 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 5: in them after they lost the game against the Giants, 668 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 5: and they said that they saw the fire after they 669 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 5: lost the game against the forty nine ers. We saw 670 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 5: glimpses of it, but we weren't able to see the 671 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 5: full four quarter strength together. 672 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: And I think that that running up the hill can 673 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 3: also just go back to what this team has to 674 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: provide effort wise each and every game to stay in 675 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: it based on some of the deficiencies, and you really 676 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: admire it, but it's hard. It's hard to do, and 677 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 3: I think that's why we're seeing these fourth quarters get away. 678 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: But Danny, I think you hit on it. 679 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: You know, moving along Flushing what we saw, especially the 680 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: defensive secondary. You have to go out there with the 681 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 3: mindset next week. You know that they came out with 682 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: before yesterday's game. Don't let this one affect you next week. 683 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 3: We hear that a lot in sports have that short memory, 684 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: because I think they will have an opportunity against the 685 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 3: Rams and the Seahawks for that matter, and they need 686 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: to take advantage of it. You know, hopefully the health 687 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: comes along, but there's nothing you can do about that. 688 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: Let's say that, let's take a moment to recognize a 689 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: special full circle moment in Sunday's game, class act by 690 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: the Bengals organization. Wide receiver Kwame Lasser the Second was 691 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: elevated from the practice squad in Sunday's game because Bengals 692 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver They're starting receiver T Higgins was out with 693 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: a ribs injury. Kwame Lassiter the Second is the son 694 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: of the late Kwame Lassiter, a long time starting safety 695 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, one of the most beloved in this organization. 696 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: Kwame Laster the Second went out for the coin toss 697 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: once the game was already decided, the final throw for 698 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: the Bengals. He went out there a designed pass play 699 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: for Wami Lassiter the Second, so he gets a catch 700 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: in State Farm Stadium. Well, that was father never played 701 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: in State Farm Stadium because it wasn't built. To go 702 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: out there and to participate in the coin toss, get 703 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: a catch against your father's former organization on their home field. 704 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: And then postgame head coach Zach Taylor gave Kwame Laster 705 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: the Second a game ball and kind of spoke about 706 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: his father to the team and Jody, I know you 707 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: covered Kwame Laster and you got to see this full 708 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: circle moment. 709 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 710 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: I mean I was kind of like moving my stuff, 711 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: getting my stuff together in the press box, and I 712 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: heard the name came over the speaker that he had 713 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 3: to catch Kwame Lasster the second and I kind of 714 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 3: got chills because I'm getting chills again. It's it's so 715 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: cool to see not only the fact that you know Kwame, 716 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 3: of course, you know, having having a child now playing 717 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 3: in the NFL when you think about these guys, but 718 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 3: you know, we lost Kwame at such a young age 719 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: and so tragically and so suddenly. And I remember hearing 720 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 3: the news of that back in I think it was 721 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 3: late twenty eighteen, and it was stunning to hear. I 722 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 3: could still see the smile all those training camps and flagstaff, 723 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 3: all those times here at the facility. I mean, this 724 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 3: is a guy that was always upbeat, always laughing, and 725 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: a leader on the team through good and bad times. 726 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 3: There were some difficult times, and he was there leading 727 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: guys like Pat Tillman, you know, and he was a 728 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 3: special person and his legacy lives on and it's so 729 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 3: wonderful to see his son was there on the field yesterday, 730 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: and just a wonderful family and a really great job 731 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 3: by the Bengals and the Cardinals to make all that happen. 732 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: There's a Cardinals Folk Tales from last season that Cardinals 733 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: fans can go and look about Kwame Lassarter's legacy, which 734 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: is a really beautiful, touching piece that embodies what he 735 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: means not only to the league, but to the Cardinals 736 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: organization specifically. So again, class act by the Cincinnati Bengals. 737 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals will hit the road this week to face the 738 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: two or three Los Angeles Rams, which now have wide 739 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: receiver Cooper Cup made his return on Sunday following a 740 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: hamstring injury. As always, stay locked in on Azycardinals dot 741 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: Com all week long for coverage leading up to that 742 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: matchup for Jodie Jackson and jak Gershman. I'm Janny Suraig. 743 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us here on Morning Scremble. 744 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: We'll catch all right here next week.