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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I think the expectation for them is

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Speaker 2: It's not some exotic game plan with a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: It's core stuff that these guys know really well. So

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Speaker 2: we anticipate, uh them being clean with their operation execution,

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Speaker 2: Something's on the line more so than practice, you know.

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Speaker 2: we thought his skill was now as you get him

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Speaker 2: that you learn how to play left guard, right guard

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Speaker 2: make the roster, you're they're starting right tackle for the

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Speaker 2: next fifteen years for the Jackson. That's kind of how

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Speaker 2: it goes. But you got to earn those opportunities, and

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Speaker 2: sometimes you earn those opportunities playing out of position if

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Speaker 3: In the game, how do you decide if you want

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Speaker 3: look at them in those spots as that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's certainly something we spend time as an offense staff.

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Speaker 2: We sit there and say, all right, we want to

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Speaker 2: see you know, Cole van Land and play guard. Okay,

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Speaker 2: how are we going to create these opportunities? What do

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Speaker 2: we want to you know, leaving one on one in

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Speaker 2: pass protection? To get an evaluation because this is really

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Speaker 2: the first time you playing somebody else and there's something

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Speaker 2: that that's a big part of it. We try to

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Speaker 2: create those situations or in our mind pregame, we try

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Speaker 2: within the flow of the game, there's times where you know,

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Speaker 3: And other assistant coaches, those guys that are fighting for

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Speaker 3: that you know you're really rooting for. You don't want

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Speaker 2: I would bet you every everybody probably does in some way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form, but nobody would admit that. Ultimately, I

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Speaker 2: can promise you the entire staff, all we want to

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Speaker 2: put any of that aside. If you have a certain

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Speaker 2: Because that that's our obligation, is the staff to this

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Speaker 2: And however that works out, it's how it works out.

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Speaker 2: But we do our best to eliminate the personal side

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Speaker 2: of this thing. Just to make the best business decision.

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Speaker 2: But there's probably one and most. Do you have a

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Speaker 3: I don't like either one of my kids.

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Speaker 2: No, you probably do, I would bet. My wife and

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Speaker 2: I have this conversation all the time. We try. I

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Speaker 2: won't admit it, but yes, I have one. And that's it.

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Speaker 2: You don't ask, you don't put a name on it.

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Speaker 2: But in each day for me, myself, my kids, my

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