WEBVTT - Control-Alt-Delete 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.360 Be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Maller 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:08.000 Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm PACIFICO. If 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.920 you thought four hours a day, minutes a week was enough, 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:15.840 think again. He's the last remnants of the old republic, 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:19.319 a sole fashion of fairness. He treats crackheads in the 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.279 ghetto cutter the same as the rich pill poppers in 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:26.520 the penthouse, the clearing House of hot takes, break free 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:30.600 or something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:39.400 right now in the air everywhere coast to coast. There 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:42.360 are no borders. When you do a podcast, it's available. 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:44.159 You know this. You're listening to the podcast right now 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:48.400 eight days a week because four hours not enough on 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:52.880 the Overnight a podcast which originally was a weekly podcast. 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.760 And then for some reason we determined that we need 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.959 to do three podcasts a weekend. So we have Friday, 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:04.800 a Saturday, and Sunday Sunday Sunday, so this is the 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.040 Saturday podcast. You already knew that, and we do. Thank 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.680 you bringing out. Thanks also to Brad Sham again who 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:15.480 was with us yesterday, the voice of the Dallas Cowboys 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:19.360 since Rogers Staubach was calling, was playing quarterback. He was 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.600 calling those games back in the in the nineteen seven 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:23.760 so it was cool to hang out with him for 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.160 a few minutes and also just drop a bunch of 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.520 names after that about people I've run across who are 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:33.160 famous broadcasters, and I am like a teenager talking about 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:37.000 their favorite band. Uh, that's how that goes. Welcome in 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.600 here for this podcast. Here West of the four oh five, 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:47.800 David Gascon's here. He is his own sound effects like 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.840 a douche bag. He was actually coming in on the 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:55.320 douche Canoe. And today's like, you know, I got a 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.280 got an audience here at work because I actually drive 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:02.040 into work. I don't have fanboy is that slurping and 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.880 suck up to you every so often? But you know 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:06.960 it's a different listen. I'm a man of the people. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.880 Guess can I'll go on, I'll go to a truck stop. 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.320 I've dodged a lot lizards, and I'll hang out with 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.160 fans of the show one on one just to catch up, 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.000 because that's how I role. I'm not some name dropping 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.600 snob like yourself. We can go back to the audio 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.600 from yesterday if you like, can talk about name well, 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.280 I was telling stories though. That was telling stories. That 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:29.040 was not being a Bragget like yourself, Mr lady. I 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:32.800 wasn't telling any stories about celebrities and sportscasters that I 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:36.560 was hanging out with that Laker games or Clipper games 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.640 or things of that nature. That's fine. Yeah, well listen 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.840 and we all know who is the drama queen on 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.959 the show, who is high maintenance, who is the attention 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.679 for David? Yeah? Yeah, it's uh, it's so eloquently put, 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:55.040 especially when we have a chronicle of mishaps for Ben Mally, 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:59.320 not David Gascon. Oh my goll bladder all the roof 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:03.200 of my mouth up. Oh my car Oh traffic, Oh 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.640 what was it? Oh? I don't get enough airtime. I 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:11.280 don't get to ask enough questions. I have to drive 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:16.200 into the radio station. Oh my god, it's so hard. 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.640 Oh I have to take my carriage, my horse and 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.120 carriage into the radio station. It's so terrible. I couldn't 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.440 be attacked by someone with a pitchfork on the side 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:31.600 of the rule of drama. Yeah, David Gascon. To be fair, 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:35.160 there there is boards that are boarding up the windows 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.680 of the studio around here, so I know you haven't 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.440 been here, but we have so we had some mandated 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.360 stuff prior to the election that they started boarding up 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:49.240 buildings and windows in the area. And they're still boarded up. Yes, 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.520 oddly enough, they are still boarded up as we So 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.280 there's no view of the street now it's all covered up. Well, 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.320 there's a view of the street, but on the opposite 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.560 side of the building. Yes, everything's boarded up like we're connected. 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.520 Oh you know. I actually I was actually there. I 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.560 had to pick up my mail. I went over the weekend. 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.880 I wondered what was I thought somebody had broken that 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:10.320 window in the courtyard. Yeah, because there's a there's a 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:13.760 nice showcase entrance into the Geico Fox Sports radio studios 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.880 there the I Heart building and at the Premier Networks, 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.800 and I saw I thought somebody must have broken that 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.839 by accident or something. No, now that you tell me, 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:23.680 that makes sense that they just put that up there 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.279 to avoid it being broken by hoodlums. Now do you 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:31.080 think that that will be removed after a couple of 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:36.960 weeks in the January, Uh? Yeah, I would think when 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:41.640 the next president is sworn in, whether that's Trump again 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.000 or something. Looks like it's gonna be Biden. Then they'll 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.760 have a h they'll take it down. They'll take it 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:48.520 down at that point, right, why would they leave it up? 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.120 I didn't know though. Every time I every time I've gone, 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.080 I haven't been there much over the last few months, 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.880 obviously this is March. But every time I've gone, there's 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.680 these lunatics across the street at the galleria, screaming in 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.960 hanging on drums and get a damn job, get a life, 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.120 you losers, complaining about every time they're complaining about something. 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:07.520 And I don't know what they're I don't even know 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.320 what they're complaining about it. They're just not They're screaming 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.920 and shouting and yelling, and I mean, my god. Now, 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.440 the last time that you came into the studio, did 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:18.680 you pick up a certain bottle of bourbon or whiskey? 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.479 And you know it's funny, but I did not. And 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:25.040 uh we you know this, listen. We love the Malley Militia. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.440 I love them more than you guess, gun um. But 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.800 it's it's a goose chase with the mail. He goes, 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.000 there's you go to, there's a drop off point for 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.159 the mail. Then there's the mail room which has like 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.120 the mail for every one of the Premiere networks. So 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.120 you go in there and there's stacks of mail for 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.920 Limbaugh and Hannity and all these big Premiere Network stars, 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.279 and then there's a little wee bit pile, a little 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.080 bit for people like me, but you have to find 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:53.599 it's like you try to find, and there's all the 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.640 executives that work at the company and all that. So 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.200 I went in. I went in to get the bull jerky, 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.200 which I was able to do. But I found a 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:07.560 few things, a lot of stuff from like Gordon in Tacoma, uh, 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:09.599 and Alph the alien o Pinter. If you want some 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.719 dill pickle dill pickle chips, uh, he sent a big 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.560 box here. Uh. You know, there's a little candy which 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.120 I'm trying to stay off of right now, a little 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.120 too much that I overdid. Uh. And then there's like 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.400 some potato chips now. But I did not find the bourbon. 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.520 And also there was a guy that said he was 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.440 gonna send me a hat and he told me and 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.840 I didn't see that either. So you don't let me 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:32.600 know if you actually some of my people said we're 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:33.960 gonna do it, and they don't do it. I understand, 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:35.240 but just let us know if you actually do it, 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:39.240 because I I have to track this down and it's 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.040 not it's not that hard, but it takes a little time, 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.359 and so you know, let me know. But I did 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.680 not get the bourbon, and we have not heard from 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.880 the Power of Couple in Kentucky here the last couple 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.880 of weeks via email the questions. I don't know if 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.359 they're they're busy doing other stuff here. Hopefully they're okay, 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:58.400 maybe they're making babies. You can make babies and still 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.680 send a question, and you know, let's in the podcast 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:02.920 can listen to the podcast while making babies. That'd be 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.080 kind of cool. I think that's a lot of women 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.640 enjoy listening to the podcast a little as a little 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:13.480 ask Benn and while you're procreating. Yes, yes, exactly, exactly exactly. 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:18.440 So anyway, on this podcast today, you've got you Gotta 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:23.160 be joking and Tommy points. In addition to that, we 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:26.640 will also have a pop quiz. Alright, pop quiz, Yes, yeah, 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:28.320 sound good? All right, So we'll start with you gotta 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:32.040 be joking. So last night we did Benny versus the Penny, 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:36.200 an iconic bit started on talk radio. Move to the 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:40.000 podcast now it's on it's a standalone YouTube show. I 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.440 think one of the great up and coming YouTube shows. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.880 It's upboard and onward for Benny Versus Depending. The audience 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.640 is growing every week. We're building our base. We're building 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.920 our foundation for bigger and better things with Benny Versus 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:54.760 the Penny. Now we've got professional production. Yeah, we've got 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:59.560 a major network television quality with the graphics and all that. 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:03.200 So it's really cool. But on Thursday, Thursday morning, when 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:07.360 I got done with the radio show, I opened up 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.280 a file on my computer and I clicked on it, 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.720 and this is where I keep my my notes on 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:18.160 Benny Versus the Penny, like little game notes and stuff. Uh, 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.520 and I got a very unwelcome surprise. So I mean, 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:26.920 I'm a methodical handicapping style. Uh. It's kind of like 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:32.640 a cow grazing in the prairie. I'm slow and sturdy, 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:36.720 and I believe that wins the race. So it's my 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:40.880 method to the Mallard madness. And so I get ready. 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:44.520 I'm very meticulous and I have a little chicken scratch 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.559 that i'll take notes. I start usually on Tuesday kind 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:53.520 of looking ahead, doing some handicapping, and I'll go through slowly, 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.520 you know, randomly throw some things together that I think 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.959 might happen in the NFL, which is amazing because I 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.760 could probably just do this without any prep and do 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.840 as crappy as I've done. But anyway, so it's a 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:09.439 hobby of mine and you have a workman like approach. Well, 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:13.559 Thursday morning, I clicked open the notes which I've been 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.319 putting together for a couple of days, and I was gobsmacked. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:23.840 I was flabbergasted. It was all gone. There was nothing left. 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.079 I don't know. I must have I was tired. I 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.360 must have clicked the wrong button. And it was like 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:35.360 a bad magic act. Presto abra cadabra, and I had 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.760 made it through. I don't remember exactly how many think 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.400 it was like six or seven of the games. This weekend. 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.240 I had put some notes down that I had for 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:48.360 the for the games, and all of that blood, sweat 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:53.360 and tears gone, gonzo. It all vanished like a fart 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.199 in the wind. It was. It was so I I 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.920 had to scramble at the end of the week there. 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.280 I know not to that I'm asking for sympathy, but 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:05.080 I had to scramble to make up. I was trying 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:09.840 to remember what I had, my my thoughts that I 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.800 had jotted down for the games. I didn't remember most 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:15.960 of them, which I'm happy about, but um I always 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.400 like to have that, you know, just in case I forget. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:22.040 So it's a little bit different because unlike shows that 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:25.839 we see on television and maybe even on radio, certainly 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.800 not on the digital platforms. But you're the only nerd 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:33.560 that actually takes every fucking game, which is remarkable, Like you, 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.120 every single guy. I don't bet every game though, I 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.679 want to be cleared on that, but I will handicap 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:43.040 every game. I will handicap every Yeah, usually like no, 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.720 here's the picture of the week, top five picks. You know, 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.199 that's it, and that's what you should do. Because if 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.839 you do that, that's good to then you avoid having 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:55.280 to talk about you know, like the the New York Giants. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.840 You don't have to talk about the New York Giants 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:01.320 and there their situation with Eyes Philadelphia, that's you know, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:05.360 that's a crap game, or you know, the mismatch games 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:09.160 or Washington Detroit. You wouldn't have to worry about that. 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.640 Um So, but yeah, that was my week here with 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:20.120 with the preparation for Benny versus the Penny little little blood, 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.079 sweat and tears, and Benny versus the Penny, which looks 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.600 cosmetically a lot better. Did you get much praise with 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:32.199 your Yes, it looked a very good professional network television 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.600 green screen, and I saw that I can use that 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.240 on Zoom and I can use that on some other 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.000 other things as well. So yeah, no, what was what 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.280 was the story of week of last week's Benny Versus 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.360 the Penny? Because it seemed like there was a draw 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.000 and that was between your green screen and your significant 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:56.720 other that ambushed the chat and all of the flocking 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:00.400 to her. Yes, yes, they ignored us and were more 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.880 interested in her and rightfully so more interesting than me. 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.120 Uh yeah, Well, I think she got in there and 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.240 she wanted to be polite. She just wanted to check 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.680 in and see what's going on show, so she did 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:15.000 that and then like people kept asking her questions, so 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:16.880 she didn't want to be rude and leave. Even so 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:21.120 it turned into a whole rigamor or she let the 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:25.640 dogs loose when she said she loves ranch dressing. Well, listen, 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.000 no one's perfect, so you know it. So this proves 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.880 that we can and we can hang out opposite to track, 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:35.400 as you know, and so he can have Republicans and 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.280 Democrats can be friends. And people are like ranch dressing 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:42.280 and don't like ranch dressing can be married. That can't happen. 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:46.160 It can't happen. We have though, there's like a point 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:51.040 of demarcation there. There's a separation between my side and 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:55.400 her side with the ranch dressing, and so she she 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.640 keeps it in a special place away from my food. 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.600 I don't want my food soiled by the devil's blood, 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.040 which is ranch dressing. And uh yeah, So that's that's 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:06.760 how we that's how we do it. Is that how 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:10.640 you guys cooked too, though, Like if you have and 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.640 when you guys are preparing lunch or dinner, do you 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:16.800 guys actually have separate sides that you'll cook onto that way? 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:21.720 You're well a little bit because my wife eats gluten 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.319 free most of the time, so there's no gluten and 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.520 I'm a big gluten guy, although I'm cutting back on 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.040 that a little bit these days. But uh yeah, So 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.320 we'll we'll make like a chicken parm or something like that, 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.600 and she'll use the gluten free stuff and I'll use 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:39.160 the evil gluten and and all that. It's not that. 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:40.720 I mean, it's like an extra bowl and it's like 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.800 one extra bowl. So that's fine. Now is your is 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.200 your I'm glad you approve of that, guest gon, I'm 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.840 glad we've got the guest gone seal of approval. No. 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:50.679 And I'm just saying, like, in terms of you guys 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.680 splitting things up, it's not like a house divided where 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.520 God forbid, Like you're just repulsed by what you know, 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.000 there's not an actual red stripe down the middle of 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.480 the house. There's not liking that. You know the old 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.680 TV trope from back in the day, right, you know, 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.120 a couple gets into a fight, and always the TV 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.520 tropes that you go on the couch, right, the guy 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:14.199 always sleeps on the couch, right, And I think about 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:18.599 about some of those things. Uh, there's a great website 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.280 if you want to throw down a rabbit hole. It's 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:26.360 called TV tropes dot org and they have all of them. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:30.200 It's hilarious. It is, it is. They did a tremendous 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:35.240 job on that that website, Like any any narrative you 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:40.640 want from television or cartoons or whatever, television news. Yeah, 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:44.680 they did a great jobs. Wonderful speaking of that in 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:48.680 the archives, God rest his soul. But people were showing 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.600 old outtakes of Alex Trebec over the last couple of days. 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.680 It's some of the promos he did. I would, I mean, 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.400 i'd bust up. But when you hear someone that's so 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.920 polite eight and sincere talk and then all of a 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.640 sudden they started dropping f bombs, it's pretty damn good. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.080 And so watching Alex Trebek do some of his out 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.720 takes and just start cussing in the middle of pretty 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:16.000 it's pretty solid. Well, the story about Rebecca that I loved, 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.880 and I had not heard it before, and we mentioned 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:21.760 it on the radio show, but I don't think we 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:25.920 spent enough time on it. That Alex Trebek was up 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:30.200 to be the Hockey Night and Canada guy. Yeah, and 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.200 I didn't know that. And if he had gotten that job, 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.720 he would have never, I would assume, never have ended 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.520 up as the Jeopardy guy. And no, it would have 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.480 been big in Canada, and he's a Canadian guy and 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.200 all that, and so that would have been good. But 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.920 I mean, jeez, it's like it's like I told the story, 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.120 It's like Vince Scully uh. You know, he explained years 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.080 ago that he wanted to be the guy at the 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.680 radio station in DC that introduced the President, ladies and gentlemen, 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.520 the President of the United States with the State of 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.640 the Union, you know, And that was the guy at 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:01.400 the radio station at d C got to do that 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:03.560 for the whole country and that was a big deal. 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.680 And Scully was like the back up to the guy. 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:08.800 And then he got offered a job by Red Barber. 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:15.280 But it's Alex Trebeck could have been a CBC broadcaster 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:19.360 Hockey Night in Canada. Would you turn down your dream 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:23.400 job in sports to do what Alex Trebek did for 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:28.760 Jeopardy and get paid his salary? Yeah, I if I 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:33.600 got offered a game show. Yeah. Reminds me of another 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:38.240 story that I heard from Pat Sajack, because Pat was 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:42.720 doing local television in l A. And he was like, 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:44.640 you know, I don't actually do this game show or not. 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.840 You know something, Sometimes these things don't work, and sometimes 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:51.040 they do. And he's still doing Wheel of Fortune. You 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:52.960 think he was on Channel four News, he would still 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.000 be doing the Channel four News. It's a it's wild 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.320 they it's it's him and Vanah White. And then even 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.800 on the news. I like Colleen Williams and a bunch 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:06.200 of Jim Hill. These people never fucking age. Well there's 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:12.520 reasons for that, I I know, you know, it's absolutely amazing. 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.120 I know it's it's a lot of cosmetics. But these 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.440 people are still humming along and still doing great work 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:24.480 on television. Yeah. But but Pat say, Jack was working 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:30.760 at k NBC in the nineteen seventies, and uh, he's 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.240 I guess he was like a weather guy or whatever. 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.480 And then he came out for a few years he 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.520 was like the full time weather guy. And how easy 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.760 a gig is that at the weather in California? There's 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:44.640 no change. Southern California didn't change much at all. And 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.479 uh and then like in the early eighties, MERV Griffin 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:49.040 is like, hey, you wanna you want to host a 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:53.639 game show? And uh, yeah he did. I remember he 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:55.600 told the story. I heard the story. I was at 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:59.960 Student Ahan's funeral and Pat spoke at student hands fear 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:03.040 believe it or not. Yeah, and Pat told the story 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.240 about how like, you know, he was kidding around about 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.280 how like stew told him not to take the job 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:11.160 or whatever, and you know, he took the job obviously, 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.280 and the rest is if there was one game show 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:19.560 you would love to host, what is that one? Oh Dealer, 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:21.560 no Deal, No no, No. I like dealer, no deal. 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.600 You know what I like? Old school though, No wammy, 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:25.920 no wammy, no wammy. Big money, big money, big money, 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.560 big money, Press your Lucke, press your luck, exactly right. 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.040 I love that show when I was when I was 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.280 a kid, man that was That was it as a 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:40.040 kid watching that, oh Man, And then I liked Dick 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:45.440 Clark was fantastic. So he did the hundred thousand dollar Pyramid. Yeah, Um, 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.840 I forget who he is, but he was a host 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:50.000 here in l A. And I think he lives in 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:55.119 Arizona now. But he used to host Hollywood Squares. Okay, 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:59.800 I don't know. You remember, you know you're talking about 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:02.679 set pretty Hollywood Squares when they had the back in 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:10.879 the day, like back in the in the seventies, seventies, eighties, nineties. Um, gosh, 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:12.879 I'm trying to forget who are trying to remember who 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:17.040 it was? I remember Shadows Stevens was on that show 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:23.840 a lot, but it was him. I'm trying to think. Uh, 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:25.760 I'm not sure. I don't know. At the time, I 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:27.840 probably know what the person looks like if I saw him. 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:31.840 But yeah, man, I'm trying to remember. But John Davidson? 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:36.560 Was it John Davidson? Now I'm trying to remember now 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:40.119 who it was? So those those two games were a 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.720 favorite named that Peter Marshall. Was it Peter Marshall? No, 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.439 it wasn't Peter all right, I don't know. I'm not 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:49.800 sure who was it. That show hasn't been on in 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.480 a long time, Hollywood Squares. It was on for a 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.840 good stretch, right, that was on the sixties and the 0:19:55.880 --> 0:20:00.399 eighties and the nineties, and yeah, a long time. Why 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:02.440 why don't they bring that? Well, I guess it's hard 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:04.320 to bring it back because like everyone's kind of a 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:08.280 celebrity these days with the internet. Yeah, that's true, Like 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.880 it's watered down what a celebrity is, hasn't it? Yeah? 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:15.440 Pretty much? So they were a big Gene Rayburn? Is 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:20.560 that who was? I don't know. Come on, giving you 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:24.560 some good names here, they're they're really good press. Your 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:26.680 Luck was fantastic though, Oh you know what I liked? 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:31.119 Also was the I forget the name of it. Was 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.000 it Dealer? No Deal? Maybe it was Dealer, the one 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:36.000 where they would dress up in Halloween costumes and they 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:37.879 you know, act crazy and they you know, do you 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:39.320 want to take the deal or do you want to 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.280 take what's behind door? You know, kurta and Number one? 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:48.960 Or you know that that show Chuck Woory. Oh Chuck Woolery. Okay, yeah, yeah, 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:51.720 all right, yeah yeah, Chuck Woolery. There we go, Bob Barker, 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.399 of course I remember Chuck Woolery, though, is the host 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:59.640 of that that relationship game show? Thing? Was Love connection? 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.720 Was that someone was? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it was. I 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.880 think it was called Love Connections. I'm pretty pretty sure 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:11.040 that was that was his deal back in the day. 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.199 So we had some good we had some We had 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:16.320 really good game shows back in the day. I don't 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:18.800 know if they're as as popular now as they used 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:21.240 to be. Part of it's just because the the amount 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:25.000 of content that's out there. Yeah, there were some great 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.679 game shows absolutely back back in the day. Alright, So 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:32.119 are you ready for story time? Are you ready for 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:36.960 story time? Alright? So, earlier this week, the great Tommy 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.840 Heinson passed away at age eighties six. I was hoping 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.200 to get Tommy on the podcast. We had Dick Stockton 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:46.080 on uh and Tommy was calling games with Dick Stockton 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:49.760 back in the day. But for sixty four years, Tommy 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:54.480 Heinson had been an institution for the Boston Celtics in 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:57.159 the Boston sports scene. He was a player, he was 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:01.120 a coach, he was a broadcaster, he was a team ambassador. 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:05.120 All of that in a bag of chips. And even 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.160 though he wasn't born in Massachuset, he was born in Jersey. 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:13.280 He was bred in Massachusetts, I think in Worcester. And 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:16.720 from what I read this the other day, I blew 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:21.040 me away. Tommy Hindson was part of all seventeen Boston championships. 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:23.479 He won eight as a player too as a coach, 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:29.080 and the rest he was broadcasting for the other Celtic championships. 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.919 So he was there. He's been there for all seventeen championships. 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:35.040 And when I was a kid, my first real taste 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.320