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Speaker 1: or something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts

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Speaker 1: right now in the air everywhere coast to coast. There

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Speaker 1: are no borders. When you do a podcast, it's available.

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Speaker 1: You know this. You're listening to the podcast right now

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Speaker 1: eight days a week because four hours not enough on

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Speaker 1: the Overnight a podcast which originally was a weekly podcast.

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Speaker 1: And then for some reason we determined that we need

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Speaker 1: to do three podcasts a weekend. So we have Friday,

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Speaker 1: a Saturday, and Sunday Sunday Sunday, so this is the

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Speaker 1: Saturday podcast. You already knew that, and we do. Thank

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Speaker 1: you bringing out. Thanks also to Brad Sham again who

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Speaker 1: was with us yesterday, the voice of the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: famous broadcasters, and I am like a teenager talking about

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Speaker 1: their favorite band. Uh, that's how that goes. Welcome in

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Speaker 1: here for this podcast. Here West of the four oh five,

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Speaker 1: David Gascon's here. He is his own sound effects like

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Speaker 1: a douche bag. He was actually coming in on the

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Speaker 1: suck up to you every so often? But you know

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Speaker 1: Guess can I'll go on, I'll go to a truck stop.

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Speaker 1: I've dodged a lot lizards, and I'll hang out with

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Speaker 1: fans of the show one on one just to catch up,

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Speaker 1: because that's how I role. I'm not some name dropping

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Speaker 1: from yesterday if you like, can talk about name well,

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Speaker 1: I was telling stories though. That was telling stories. That

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Speaker 1: was not being a Bragget like yourself, Mr lady. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't telling any stories about celebrities and sportscasters that I

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Speaker 1: was hanging out with that Laker games or Clipper games

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Speaker 1: or things of that nature. That's fine. Yeah, well listen

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Speaker 1: and we all know who is the drama queen on

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Speaker 1: the show, who is high maintenance, who is the attention

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Speaker 1: for David? Yeah? Yeah, it's uh, it's so eloquently put,

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Speaker 1: especially when we have a chronicle of mishaps for Ben Mally,

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Speaker 1: not David Gascon. Oh my goll bladder all the roof

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Speaker 1: of the rule of drama. Yeah, David Gascon. To be fair,

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Speaker 1: there there is boards that are boarding up the windows

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Speaker 1: maybe they're making babies. You can make babies and still

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Speaker 1: ask Benn and while you're procreating. Yes, yes, exactly, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, on this podcast today, you've got you Gotta

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Speaker 1: sound good? All right, So we'll start with you gotta

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Speaker 1: be joking. So last night we did Benny versus the Penny,

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Speaker 1: It's upboard and onward for Benny Versus Depending. The audience

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Speaker 1: is growing every week. We're building our base. We're building

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Speaker 1: years ago. It's been almost fifteen because we're almost at

423
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Speaker 1: the end of twenty thank god. So the Clippers are

424
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Speaker 1: playing the Celtics at Staples set Her and having no

425
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: life and having no girlfriend. I was freeloading, and I

426
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: was hanging out. I hung out every night at a

427
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Speaker 1: different event. I was a basketball hockey during the wintertime,

428
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: and during the summer, I was at baseball game. So

429
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: I was hanging out the chicker and press room at

430
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Speaker 1: at Staples Center. And and so here's and I wanna,

431
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 1: I wanna put a cavey on it. This is how

432
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: I remember the night. You know, our memories changed over

433
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: the years, and we remember very little off and but

434
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Speaker 1: I I remember this because this was an eventful night.

435
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Speaker 1: And this was one of those nights you kind of remember. Right,

436
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: there's a few days in your life that you kind

437
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: of flashback and you're like, you remember fondly. So I

438
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: was with my guy Lee Klein, who we've had on

439
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: the podcast The Prince of Darkness Lee Line, and so

440
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: our our routine at these games. Lee was out with me.

441
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: He was running shotgun with me, and so we would

442
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: hang out in the chicker and press room, showing down

443
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: on the press, grub, schmoozing, going around. We had a

444
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: bounced from table to table. We didn't have a normal table.

445
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: We kind of bounced around with a it. So we're

446
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: doing our routine. New Year's Eve a game I think

447
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: started about six thirty, so this is probably maybe we're

448
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Speaker 1: on four thirty in the afternoon, like between four thirty

449
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Speaker 1: and like five thirty roughly. Um, so we're doing it.

450
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: And and so we're sitting at a table doing our thing,

451
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: you know, shooting the ship with some of the guys,

452
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: some of the reporters, some of the writers, the people

453
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Speaker 1: who worked for the Clippers, and in Pops, Tommy Heinz

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Speaker 1: and Mike Gorman who's the play by play guy for

455
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Speaker 1: the Celtics, and they just randomly happened to sit down

456
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Speaker 1: at our table to have their their pregame meal, and so,

457
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, here's an opportunity, and that Tommy was very

458
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: reserved and all that, but you know it wasn't intentional.

459
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: He didn't know who the hell I was. So anyway,

460
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,239
Speaker 1: of course Lee started the conversation, you know, asking him

461
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Speaker 1: about some some Celtics you know, back in the day,

462
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: and the floodgates just opened, and then we were all

463
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: involved in the conversation. It was amazing. Tommy Hinson talked

464
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: about the early days in Boston trying to trying to

465
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: make basketball popular and how they were trying to get

466
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: kids to play basketball in high schools and they didn't

467
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: have high school basketball in Massachusetts, and in part of

468
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 1: the Northeast there and and uh and the other thing.

469
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: I there's a few things I remember about that conversation

470
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: that that stuck with me. But he swore this was

471
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: hilarious because Tommy was known as just slaying the Lakers

472
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: when he did the CBS games, and everyone who liked

473
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: the Lakers hated him, and that's why I like Tommy anyway.

474
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: So Tommy, we're just having a casual meal, you know,

475
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: off the record, just shooting the crap and b sing

476
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: and all that. And Tommy swore at that dinner that

477
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties showtime Lakers was a rip off of

478
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Speaker 1: the Celtics, that pat Riley had just stolen the Bill

479
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: Scharman style of basketball. Bill Scharman an old Celtic. I

480
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: know he worked for the Lakers as well. But you know,

481
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: Tommy's giving the whole, the whole Rigamo roar on that,

482
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: which was pretty funny. He was going into great detail

483
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: about the Lakers of the eighties and how they were

484
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: just you know, it was a rip off of what

485
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: the Celtics did back in the day. It was hilarious.

486
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: And uh, and he also told a funny story about

487
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: Red Arbach, who he claimed, and I know he's told

488
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: this to other people, but he said, like he wouldn't

489
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: rip Bill Russell or Couzy, the stars of those Celtic teams.

490
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: So he just unloaded on Heinsen because the other guys,

491
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: I forget what he said, like they were the leaders

492
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: of the team or whatever, and they were great. But

493
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: you know, so ar Bok picked on him. And I

494
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: mean the thing that this last like thirty forty minutes

495
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: or something like that, it was. It was great. It

496
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: was awesome and very fond memories of that one night

497
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. Now Tommy in that thick New England accent, uh,

498
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: just ouzing Boston and all that, just going on and on.

499
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: And he also all the you know he won the

500
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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, Tommy Hindsen. You know how much

501
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: he got for that pennies on the dollar two that

502
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: was his bonus two bucks. In fact, the story about

503
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: Heisen is that he the money was so crappy in

504
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: the NBA in those olden days that when he was

505
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: offered the Celtic coaching job, he seriously considered not taking

506
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: it to sell life insurance instead, because you can make

507
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 1: more money selling life insurance than coaching the Celtics. That

508
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: reminds me of the scene from Major League. Hey, it's

509
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: Charlie Doyle. You want to manage the Indians? I don't know.

510
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: I got a guy on the outline for some white walls,

511
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: you know that old Yeah, what was the great scenes

512
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: of all time when when you guys were eating? What

513
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: was his what was his personality? Like? What was this

514
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: PERSONA was pretty calm. He wasn't like the over the

515
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: top screaming and shouting. Yeah, it was a very very

516
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: calm conversation. You know, it's just reminiscing. And one of

517
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: the funny things that kind of led into the conversation

518
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 1: was on that night Walter Walter McCarty was on the

519
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: Clippers and that was the guy if you remember maybe

520
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: you don't, but Tommy Heinson, when he was calling the

521
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: Celtic games, fell in love with Walter McCarty of all people,

522
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: and he would yell and cheer whenever Walter did anything.

523
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: Who was, let's be honest, a marginal NBA player, right,

524
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: Walter McCarty and he I know Walter, he would shout

525
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: and so this is actually pretty fune. So we asked

526
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: because Walter was on the Clippers at that point. He

527
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: wasn't backup, he wasn't playing much at all, but the

528
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: Clippers were playing cells. So we're like, hey, Walters on

529
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: the Clippers, you're excited. And Tommy while he's eating his

530
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: you know, chicken parm or whatever they have there, I

531
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: forget what they had that night. But Tommy Heinson then

532
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: explains to us that the reason he fell in love

533
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: with wal To McCarty is because calling the Celtic games

534
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: had become boring. Not boring, I don't boring is the

535
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: right word that he used the right adjective. But the

536
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: Celtics had a very slow plotting team. Um, the offense

537
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: had been bogged down. They had guys like Purvis Ellison,

538
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: Dana Barrows was at the end of his career. That

539
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: was like that year of the Celtics. I think they

540
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: had Dee Brown, who doesn't strike me as a guy

541
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: that's bogging down the office. But anyway, Um, so Tommy

542
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: saw Walter McCarty as this young athletic guy that was

543
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, that's how he liked basketball, Tommy, right, He

544
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: liked the guys that could run around and and move

545
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: and and so he just loved the energetic way that

546
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: Walter McCarty played for the Celtics, and so he completely

547
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: fell in love with Walter and uh, and so that's

548
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: the legend of Walter McCarty. But rest in peace to

549
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: Tommy Heinsen and uh great broadcasting career and obviously before

550
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: my time it was a player and a coach. That's

551
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: as you talk about dying breed and the way of

552
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: the world with social media and all that. It's hard

553
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: to imagine, but maybe this will happen that anyone playing

554
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: today would follow that outlined, you know what I mean? Like, yes,

555
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: all those year sixty years with the Celtics, over sixty years,

556
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying who who would be the equivalent of

557
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: a player that's playing today. Someone say, Derek Jeter with

558
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: the Yankees, but Jeter has already left the Yankees. He's

559
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: now the Marlins owner. Yeah. The only person I could

560
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: have actually thought of like that it would have been

561
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant had he been still alive. But then again,

562
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: with him he went into Hollywood. Yeah, he was in

563
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: the documentaries and all that stuff. And Manning and Manning

564
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: obviously left Indie left Denver, Brady leaves Tampa Bay. You

565
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: don't have anyone like that in the National Football League.

566
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: Back to see Brady going back to the Patriots, But

567
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna He doesn't strike me as

568
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that's gonna want to go into football.

569
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: He he wants to sell his quackery. You know, he's

570
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: got all that TV twelve stuff that he's hat Hawkins,

571
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: so he wants to do that. Yeah, so baseball, anybody

572
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: in baseball. Yeah, I don't Mike Trout, but he's an

573
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: East Coast guy. When he's done playing, he's gonna go

574
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: back to Philadelphia or Jersey or whatever and hang out

575
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: there to his do his thing. Yeah, I don't. Yeah,

576
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: I don't see anybody in among the fourth for North

577
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: American sports that would be a lifer. Not even I

578
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: mean for what Lebron's done. Lebron is already a vagabond.

579
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: He's been all over the basketball world, and he'll probably

580
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: I don't think Little Lakers are his last team. I

581
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: bet you he plays with somebody else before he's he's

582
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: done in the NBA. Yeah, I would think he'll go

583
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: maybe go back to Cleveland, if you know, he plays

584
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: long enough for his to be in the NBA and

585
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: the Cavs just conveniently have to draft. Just happened to draft.

586
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how this could happen, look brawny, I'm

587
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: sure there's no chance of that happening, right, there's no

588
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: The NBA is not gonna set that up at all.

589
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: That would be wrong. That would be wrong. That would

590
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: be the first, That would be a first in NBA history. Yeah,

591
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: they never do that kind of stuff. They never ever

592
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: do that kind of stuff. All right, So we have

593
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: pop quiz. You want to get to the pop quiz here,

594
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: you're good for the pop quiz, yes, all right. So

595
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: these are things I found on the internet, and we'll

596
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: do a few of these right now on the pop quiz.

597
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: I have no notice that since we had the Babylon

598
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: Be on. It's just the Babylon be became popular. You've

599
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: gone away from b or not to be. Yeah, it's

600
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: it's two played out. It's too trendy. That's the problem

601
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: because west of the four or five guys were trending. No,

602
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: we were trend setters. Yeah, I have the I have

603
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: the odds on before I get to pop quiz, have

604
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: the odds on. You can actually bet on who the

605
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: next Jeopard, the host will be I saw some of those.

606
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: I have a full list. I just got sent this.

607
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: My guy, Jimmy Shapiro sent this from from bet online.

608
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: If it's George Stefanopolis, I will carve out my eyes.

609
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: You're a car back, guys. Uh, well, let me give

610
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: you you want me to give you the guys the

611
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: longest shot here. It's always fund some of the names

612
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: they put on their thousand of one shot. Donald Trump

613
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: on no Way. Yeah, did you see that Trump? If

614
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: he he's almost better off. I hate saying losing for him.

615
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. Right because Biden comes president. Fine,

616
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: Trump then gets a hundred million dollar book television deal,

617
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: he will be he's still eligible to run for president

618
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: in and he'll just spend the next four years campaigning

619
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: to be the president in right, So, and he'd make

620
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars doing it, and he's the odds

621
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: on favorite to win in the r n C in Yeah.

622
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Alex for financially for him, that would

623
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: actually be better if Biden becomes president, because then he

624
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: can make the hundred million, do some television and and

625
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: then bounce back a few years down, Like, who else

626
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: do you have? Oprah Winfrey is a hundred one. He's

627
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: not gonna do that. That's a job. You gotta show up.

628
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan sixty six to one. No, he's not. That's

629
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: a big pay day though, from what he's getting right

630
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: now doing his podcasts and of course the UFC. Now

631
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: he's making a lot of money on the podcast he's

632
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: doing well. Uh. Aaron Andrews, no way, no chance. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Steve Harvey, Yeah, you can see that. Steve Harvey loves

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Speaker 1: game shows. I don't know if he'd be allowed to

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Speaker 1: contractually to do that, Howie Mandel. Steve Harvey is forty

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Speaker 1: t one. As I said, who else? Uh, let's see

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Speaker 1: here page down. Drew Drew Carey is on this list.

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Speaker 1: Wolf Blitzer is one. I think it's too much of

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Speaker 1: a similarity between him and Alex Trebeck. Ryan Seacrest is

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Speaker 1: only eighteen to one. Way, Pat say, Jack sixteen to one,

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Speaker 1: can't do it? Neil de gross Tyson, that would be great,

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Speaker 1: he's pretty good. Yes, that would be pretty catastic. Did

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Speaker 1: I say John Stewart? Did I say his name Piers

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Speaker 1: Morgan week? No, Piers Morgan, John Stewart's coming back doing

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Speaker 1: some TV something. He's doing show again. Yeah. Uh, Katie Kuric, No, no,

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Speaker 1: that's not Yeah. The top three are LaVar Burton nine,

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Speaker 1: George Stefa Stefanopolis at thirteen to four, and the favorite.

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Speaker 1: You know what, the favorite is the No, who's the favorite?

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Speaker 1: Ken Jennings, Ken is the favorite? Yeah? Are you a

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00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: big Jeopardy guy anyway? No? No, I mean we we

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Speaker 1: when I was young. We were watching because you know,

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Speaker 1: my my mom and dad would like to play along,

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Speaker 1: you know, because they were smart. But I'm dumb. I'm dumb.

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Speaker 1: So but I'll watch it. You know, it's cool, it's

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Speaker 1: fun show. I feel smart, You really feel smart when

656
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Speaker 1: you get something right, you feel like, oh man, I

657
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Speaker 1: nailed that one. Yeah, but they don't usually have categories.

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Speaker 1: I would do well And it is great Dodger relief

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Speaker 1: pictures in the eighties for a thousand, Alex. But when

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Speaker 1: they go the opposite way, though, and they start asking

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Speaker 1: these contestants sports questions and they're not even close. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: how awkward is it gonna be? Though? When they I

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Speaker 1: know Alex Frebec before he passed, he had taped a

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Speaker 1: bunch of episodes, but at some point those are gonna

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Speaker 1: run out. Yes, and oh man, it's gonna be I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be wild. All right, let's do some pop quiz. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: you temperature please. Eight of people say they have never

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Speaker 1: thoroughly cleaned this. What is it their toilet? No, people

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Speaker 1: clean their toilet the microwave, Yeah right, you. My dad

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Speaker 1: loves the microwave. He cannot stand waiting. The food tastes

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Speaker 1: so much better in the oven. But my my old

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Speaker 1: man loves the microwave. He'll put anything in the microwave.

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Speaker 1: And because he has no patience. Yeah, I don't even

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Speaker 1: really like the microwave. I like to put stuff in

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Speaker 1: the oven because it tastes better. How about this, do

676
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Speaker 1: you ever microwave cold pizza? No? Because you actually it

677
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Speaker 1: tastes better if you warm it up in the oven.

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Speaker 1: That I never. I never warm it up once it

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Speaker 1: goes cold. I just keep it cold. Oh, just keep

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Speaker 1: it cold even but if you warm it up, it'll

681
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Speaker 1: come back to life in the oven. Okay. So one

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Speaker 1: thing you cannot do this is like rule number one.

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Speaker 1: If you ever have a Gascons Rules of life, take notes.

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Speaker 1: You can never microwave French fries that have gone cold.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a lot of things you can't put

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Speaker 1: in the microwave because they taste rubbery and disgusting. Yes,

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Speaker 1: what's the eat what's the food that tastes the greatest.

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Speaker 1: I would say popcorn out of the microwave tastes fine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's how you make popcorn. Put the microwave, if

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Speaker 1: you can, put over the stove with the fire and

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Speaker 1: all that. But all right, Americans eat about one billion

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Speaker 1: pounds of this every year. What is it, one billion pounds?

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Speaker 1: I ate this a lot when I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: not as an adult. Walnuts, walmer. No tuna, Oh, tuna, tuna, tuna, tuna.

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Speaker 1: I've been eating a lot of tuna recently, is that right? Yeah? Okay,

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Speaker 1: tuna with mayo or how do you eat your tuna?

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Speaker 1: I just I actually just sear it. I'll go to

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Speaker 1: your like sprouts or by some ahi tuna. I'll brought

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Speaker 1: by a couple of filets and then, uh, look at

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Speaker 1: you filets of ahi tuna. That doesn't sound pretemptious at all,

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Speaker 1: not at all. It's healthy. Man. I gotta I gotta

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Speaker 1: fix the diet. I can't fucking work out to the

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Speaker 1: fullest anymore. Yeah, I know, I changed my dad sucks.

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Speaker 1: It's not not good bullshit all right. Uh. This was

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Speaker 1: not an uncommon twenty one birthday present in England right

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Speaker 1: up until the nineteen fifties. This was a staple of

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Speaker 1: English society. What is it? Turned a bride? No, this

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Speaker 1: is so such a English thing getting all teeth pulled?

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Speaker 1: What well? Their legendary just railroad tracks? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I just kidding. Does that mean you put the fake

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Speaker 1: teeth in and that's your twenty one birthday present? Oh

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Speaker 1: my god? Alright. This title, the title of this long rather,

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Speaker 1: which was a hit in the nineteen sixties and the

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, was taken from a Neon sign on the

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Speaker 1: side of a New York City building. Beat it, beat it.

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Speaker 1: Uh no, it was money money yeah, and Billy Idol

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Speaker 1: later did that. But the Sean dels back in the

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Speaker 1: end of the day. That was a I assume we

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Speaker 1: would have said money money, but instead they just made

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Speaker 1: it money money. Yeah. Alright. In Switzerland, if you buy

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Speaker 1: this as a pet, you must get to eat, is

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Speaker 1: the law. Um, how about a bird? The bird is

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Speaker 1: the word? No, actually, guinea pig? All right? Guinea pig.

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Speaker 1: You have by two guinea pigs? Why is that? I

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Speaker 1: have no idea. I've never purchased a guinea pig. That's

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Speaker 1: not what I heard, alright. Fourteen percent of kids want

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Speaker 1: to be this when they grow up. What is it? Um?

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Speaker 1: An astronaut zookeeper? Wow? That does that lead to you

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Speaker 1: being a veterinarian. A lot of kids want to be

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Speaker 1: veterinarians and they want to work in the ocean and

731
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: work with whales and things like that. But uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure. When I was a little kid, when I

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Speaker 1: my parents take me to San Diego Zoo or something

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Speaker 1: the Wild Animal Park, I was like, Oh, I want

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Speaker 1: to be you know, I want to work with animals.

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Speaker 1: All right. The most popular show that people watch in

737
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: other countries to help themselves learn English is Friends. What

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Speaker 1: is number two behind Friends the Kardashians. No, it is

739
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: the Simpsons, all right, Yeah, the Simpsons. It's good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can learn a lot of interesting things on the Simpsons.

741
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Speaker 1: Of parents feel guilty when they tell their kids this, no,

742
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Speaker 1: get off your phone, and like, I feel guilty because

743
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Speaker 1: they they're on their phones all the time. Right, It's true.

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Speaker 1: In an online service two thousand people were asked what

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00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: one fashioned friend would you like to see go away?

746
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: This was the number one answer. Skinny jeans close, but

747
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: try again. Not bell bottom? Do you do? Do do do?

748
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 1: Bell bottoms aren't in style. They want this to go away.

749
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Speaker 1: Sometimes I see seventies or the here the eighties anymore?

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00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: My god, I don't know. I gave you my best answer.

751
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: All right, the answer is saggy pants, not tight pants.

752
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 1: Saggy pants. I haven't seen saggy pants in a long time.

753
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: I haven't seen them either, but apparently they're still out there.

754
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: I remember when that became the big thing, and how

755
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: everyone was like a gas when the NBA players would

756
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: show up with their pants down around their ankles, and

757
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: you know, people get nuts, and David Stern put the

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00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: dress code in and people are freaking out alan ivers

759
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: now like if you criticize anyone the way they dressed,

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00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: they call you all kinds of names. You can't even Oh,

761
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: you're a terrible human being. You're never supposed to say

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00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 1: anything about the way anyone dresses. All right, almost, they'll

763
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: do a few more. We'll get out of here. Almost

764
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Speaker 1: four intent. People believe they can control this. Their diet. Uh, well,

765
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: but you could control your diet, would you eat? You

766
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Speaker 1: can know that their dreams dream? Yeah, no, but their

767
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: dreams you thinking. You know, I'm gonna dream about X,

768
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Speaker 1: Y and Z or A, B and C and you

769
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: can figure it out. I've heard though, usually your dreams

770
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Speaker 1: are related to what you did right before you went

771
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Speaker 1: to sleep, Like if you watch something, you'll have a

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00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: dream kind of related to that topic. Or if you

773
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: talk to somebody about something, or you you know, what

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Speaker 1: you saw a photo of someone, they'll be in your

775
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: dream that kind of Yeah, that happens to me more

776
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: often now than ever. All Right, this tends to happen

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Speaker 1: more on a Tuesday than any other day of the week.

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Speaker 1: What is it, Um, you get fired? Uh no, I

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00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: think that's Friday. I've always been fired on Friday, and

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Speaker 1: they make sure you work the whole week and they

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Speaker 1: whack you on But according to A the answer, by

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Speaker 1: the way, is late for work. People are late. Why

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00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: would they be when you've been late on Monday rather

784
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: than Tuesday. Now, you guys, stop the tone that you're

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Speaker 1: on time on Monday. Oh so Monday you're on time

786
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Speaker 1: and then Tuesday you're sleeping you're all right. According to

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Speaker 1: a news last one. According to new survey, four of

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Speaker 1: us have never performed this very simple task which was

789
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: a staple of the world for decades and decades. Um,

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00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: can you give me a hint. It's related to interacting

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Speaker 1: with other human beings. In a way of interacting with

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00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 1: other human being, how about shaking hands? Uh? Well, now

793
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: no one's shaking hands because of the corona. But no,

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00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: that's not it. Uh. The answer is writing a letter,

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Speaker 1: actual pen paper letter. Interesting, I have done that in

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Speaker 1: my life, but I'm old. Yeah, have you ever written

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00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: a letter of pen and pay? I have, unfortunately, and

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00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: they have not been discarded. I don't think they've been

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Speaker 1: discarded or torn up. But the box you have a

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Speaker 1: box of letters that you've written, like the the old

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Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln thing right where you have remember that story

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00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: we've talked about it here where you you get upset

803
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: with someone and the lost art of the unsent letter, right,

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00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, you'd write a horrible hot letter, complain nasty words,

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Speaker 1: and then you put in a drawer and never said it. Yeah,

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00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: I've I've written and then no, I've written in sense

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Speaker 1: and then I immediately delete. If I've done it on

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Speaker 1: my computer, what you've written and sent. Yeah, so what's

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Speaker 1: the point of deleting and if you already wrote it

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Speaker 1: and sent it because the copy of that, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be reminded of the copy. Oh it's

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00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: like it's like when you have pictures, Like you have

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Speaker 1: the pictures and then you took them and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden you don't want to remember them anymore. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I got, I got, all right, we get out of here. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, Benny versus the Penny. If you have not

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Speaker 1: watched yet, we did the live show on Friday night.

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Speaker 1: We talked about a little bit earlier here, but you

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Speaker 1: can check that out. It's on the YouTube. There's links

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Speaker 1: on my twitter feed if you scrolled down. Giscon tweets

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Speaker 1: it out. You can follow me on Twitter at Ben Mallard.

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Speaker 1: That's at Ben Maller and also on Facebook, Ben Mallers Show, Instagram,

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Speaker 1: Ben Maller on Fox. I want to personalized video on

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Speaker 1: check that out and find me there. Just type my

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Speaker 1: and and remember guys on the Facebook page the every

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Speaker 1: Wednesday we will have a solicitation for questions for the

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Speaker 1: mail bag, which we're doing tomorrow, and you can also

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Speaker 1: email those questions in if you want, but we usually

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Speaker 1: just take them on Facebook. But if you want to

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Speaker 1: email in questions for the mail bag, it's real fifth

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Speaker 1: Hour at gmail dot com and Gascon people can reach

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Speaker 1: you how yes on Twitter at David J. Gascon Uh

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Speaker 1: if you go, that's just a letter J, not J

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Speaker 1: A Y, just a letter J yes yes. And then

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Speaker 1: on Instagram at Dave Gascon. If you want to go

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Speaker 1: and find Benny versus the Penny, just type that in

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