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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, everybody,

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Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire. Friday, December eleven, two

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Speaker 1: weeks to go until Christmas. Happy Hanukkah, Happy holidays. How

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Speaker 1: pumped is everybody got some extra spending money? If you

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Speaker 1: cashed on Rams Patriots under? What a no sweat under?

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Speaker 1: You know we told you guys. Patriots offense is a joke.

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Speaker 1: And uh, it was some dicey moments early, especially when

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Speaker 1: It will be no playoffs for Belichick and Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: definitely the big winner. You know he's smirking down in

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Speaker 1: Tampa this weekend. How do he could do his game

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Speaker 1: against Minnesota. We'll get to the best bet for Week

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Speaker 1: four t best bets? Sorry, I got four of them

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Speaker 1: later in the podcast, but coming up. Great interview with

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Speaker 1: a former NFL GM Randy Mueller. He was with Seattle forever,

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Speaker 1: he was with the Chargers. Uh, he's got some great stories.

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Speaker 1: He was in Miami with Nick Saban. Remember Nick Saban's

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Speaker 1: brief tour of duty in the NFL. Wait to hear

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Speaker 1: about that, really good fun stuff. And um, you guys

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Speaker 1: process that front half offices go through when they're sifting

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Speaker 1: through players. Uh. Team philosophy is really good inside football stuff.

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Speaker 1: And listen, I don't want to nerd out too much. Um,

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Speaker 1: the hall, I would just be a sponge, asking questions,

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Speaker 1: trying to learn former NFL coaches, former NFL gms, former players,

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Speaker 1: current players. I am able to text with some pro

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Speaker 1: I try to be cool. I try to be Jason

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Speaker 1: Like I may think I know everything, I may sound

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Speaker 1: I will say one thing I learned watching Rams Patriots

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Speaker 1: you squint really hard, you can see some Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs in this Sean McVeigh offense. Obviously, golf is not

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Speaker 1: now to our interview with former NFL GM Randy Mueller.

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Speaker 1: Jason likes to think he knows everything when it comes

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Speaker 1: another guy. All right, let's welcome into straight fire. A

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Speaker 1: Good to be with you? Yeah, thanks for coming on now.

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Speaker 1: We've talked on the radio before. Uh and and I

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Speaker 1: idea of a team bringing in Jim Harball in this offseason? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think if it was a set up with the

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Speaker 1: right people around him, and you mentioned it earlier when

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Speaker 1: with regard to Nick, it's more than a one man job.

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Speaker 1: I think, really, what's what Jim has struggled with in

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Speaker 1: Michigan is Jim the GM. Jim the evaluator has kind

433
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Speaker 1: of let down Jim the head coach. They really haven't

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Speaker 1: got the guys recruited the right guys to do what

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Speaker 1: he wants to do there. That would be out of

436
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Speaker 1: his hands in the NFL. I assume he'd go somewhere

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Speaker 1: where there was a GM. I don't think at this

438
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Speaker 1: point he could demand full power of everything and that's

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Speaker 1: not going to happen, you know. And then it's about

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Speaker 1: communicating with everybody and getting along with people. One of

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Speaker 1: the reasons he got out of San Francisco when he

442
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Speaker 1: did was he struggled to get along with some of

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Speaker 1: the people that were there. At least that was my understanding.

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Speaker 1: So there's some bridges that would have to be cross there. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that there's gonna be a big demand

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Speaker 1: for for him. I really don't. And I know he

447
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Speaker 1: took the forty nine to the Super Bowl, but I

448
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Speaker 1: don't know because of all the other things that are involved.

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Speaker 1: Uh As as a GM, you've got a you've got

450
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Speaker 1: a little pause button just on what happened in the past. Um,

451
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get the right set up personnel wise,

452
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Speaker 1: the right group of guys with you again, I just

453
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Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not ready to buy that. There's plenty

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Speaker 1: of options for Jim in the NFL. Yet that's just

455
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Speaker 1: my opinion. Okay, let's go to another guy then, a

456
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Speaker 1: little older. Marvin Lewis, long time Bengals head coach. I

457
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Speaker 1: believe he coached with the Bengals for sixteen years. Uh,

458
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Speaker 1: never won a playoff game, had a lot of success

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. He's now at Arizona State with her Edwards.

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Speaker 1: And you know we're about to hit the coaching carousel

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Speaker 1: and are all of a sudden, Marvin's Marvin Lewis. His

462
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Speaker 1: name has come up again. Sixty two years old, he's

463
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Speaker 1: in college. He's been out of the NFL since the

464
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Speaker 1: final three years with the Bengals, he did not make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Um, where where are you on Marvin Lewis

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Speaker 1: as a head coach? We know he's a good man

467
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Speaker 1: by all accounts, but is that going to invigorate a

468
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Speaker 1: fan base and in when it's an offensive league bringing

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Speaker 1: in a defensive coach. I'm just curious as to your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on Marvin Lewis. No, I I know Marvin I

471
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Speaker 1: think he's an excellent coach. What happened in Cincinnati, I'm

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Speaker 1: not willing to blame. I think there's some systematic things

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Speaker 1: there in the Cincinnati that are still rearing their head.

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Speaker 1: Um I I say, I could see somebody bringing in

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Speaker 1: Marvin though this if he could combine himself with a

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Speaker 1: young you know, Sean McVeigh or somebody like that on offense,

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Speaker 1: because I think, without a doubt he is a leader

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Speaker 1: of men and he's an excellent communicator, So two of

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Speaker 1: those things are always going to be there for him.

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Speaker 1: Whether at sixty two, I'm not worried as much about

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Speaker 1: the age. I know he's uh young enough at heart,

482
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Speaker 1: and I know he's physically in good shape, so I

483
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Speaker 1: don't see that being in a real negative. I do

484
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Speaker 1: think he would have to team with with like you mentioned,

485
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Speaker 1: a couple of younger, maybe coordinator types that would help

486
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Speaker 1: help settle that fan base that kind of is questioning

487
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Speaker 1: like you. But I know Marvin, I like him. I

488
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Speaker 1: do think he'll get some opportunities. The thing is, if there,

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Speaker 1: if it's true and there's seven or eight of these

490
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Speaker 1: NFL jobs that are gonna come available, I don't know

491
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Speaker 1: where you're gonna get seven or eight enitimate guys. So

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Speaker 1: i'm i'm I like the idea of going back and

493
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Speaker 1: looking at some guys who have had some success both

494
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Speaker 1: as general managers and as head coaches, because the thing is,

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Speaker 1: you know that they can lead an organization. You know

496
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Speaker 1: that it's not going to be a learning curve. I

497
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Speaker 1: get nervous when some of these teams, especially when you

498
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Speaker 1: hire gms, you hire people and you don't know if

499
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Speaker 1: they can lead anything. And really, as a GM or

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Speaker 1: head coach, you're the head figure things out guy. That's

501
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Speaker 1: who what you are, right, You've got to figure everything out,

502
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Speaker 1: and if you have to learn your own job, sometimes

503
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's on the job training. And that's a

504
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Speaker 1: good one or two year process as well. So this idea.

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Speaker 1: Remember Mike Carthy flamed out with Aaron Rodgers the final year.

506
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Speaker 1: It got ugly between those two stories said they weren't

507
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Speaker 1: talking for like the last like four weeks or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Um And he got a job after a year off

509
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Speaker 1: with Dallas and you know it's a little early and

510
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Speaker 1: they've had a ton of injuries. But my issue with

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Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis is, you know, Randy do you make him

512
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Speaker 1: the head coach or do you make him the defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: Because I'd be cool with a setup like, Hey, mcveigh's

514
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Speaker 1: the head coach, Wade Phillips is the DC. Wade Phillips,

515
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Speaker 1: of course, has been a head coach before. It worked

516
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Speaker 1: spectacularly for the Rams. You know, Windville just has to

517
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Speaker 1: focus on the defense and building and he built it great. Um.

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Speaker 1: But this idea that like Marvin Lewis should be the

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Speaker 1: head coach and then you get like a Joe Brady,

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Speaker 1: Like Joe Brady out of Carolina is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: hot name. We know that, right, But um, this idea

522
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Speaker 1: that like Joe Brady is gonna make a lateral move

523
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Speaker 1: to be an offensive cordin, that's not happening, right. Of

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Speaker 1: those want to want to be there, but be the

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Speaker 1: head guy. So that's the only reason it's tough for

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Speaker 1: me to envision Marvin Lewis being a head coach while

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Speaker 1: we're on Joe duh. Is it too early to get

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Speaker 1: excited about him? Oh? I don't think so. I think

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Speaker 1: I think he'll definitely have an opportunity. I think the

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Speaker 1: candidates have to come from somewhere and everybody's looking to

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Speaker 1: grab somebody with that upside of a Sean McVeigh or

532
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Speaker 1: even Nicole Shanahan to that point. And I know Joe's young,

533
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Speaker 1: but he's done a lot with the little time he's

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Speaker 1: been in the game, and I like your idea. I

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Speaker 1: think that's a great idea of of him being paired

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Speaker 1: with a older defensive coach, a guy who's been through

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Speaker 1: it who can also help him be a better head

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Speaker 1: coach as well, because, let's face it, Marvin has been

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Speaker 1: through a lot and has seen a lot as a

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Speaker 1: as an experience, Jim could help a guy like Joe

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Speaker 1: Brady too. I think that would help him a lot

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Speaker 1: in the maturity. And no one really what's around the

543
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Speaker 1: corner ahead of times, so sometimes these instincts have to

544
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Speaker 1: be learned with these jobs. Joe just hasn't been around

545
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Speaker 1: long enough to know where all the bones are buried.

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Speaker 1: The guy like Marvin or somebody like that would really

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Speaker 1: be helpful to him. I like your idea. I do

548
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Speaker 1: think the hottest name uh is going to be Brian

549
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Speaker 1: Dable from the Buffalo Bills. We've seen this guy. He

550
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: was at Alabama with your guys, Saban Uh He's spent

551
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Speaker 1: a lot of time Dable in the NFC East with

552
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Speaker 1: the Patriots. He had a cup of coffee with the Jets. Um,

553
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: this guy scares me. Um. You know he the stuff

554
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: he's doing with Josh Allen. Um, I gotta be honest. Ready,

555
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: I did not think Josh Allen could be this guy.

556
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: And the way they've schemed up Alan and Digs and

557
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley all of a sudden looks like Wes Welker

558
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Speaker 1: out there. Um. I talked about Dable and do you

559
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Speaker 1: think he moves because again he's offensive coordinator. He can

560
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Speaker 1: be a head guy. Um or is he? You know?

561
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Speaker 1: Maybe not? He needs a little more time. I mean,

562
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Speaker 1: would people freak out if Dable got ahead coaching job

563
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: over say Eric the enemy from Kansas City? You know,

564
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Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I think there's going to

565
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Speaker 1: be room for for all these guys to probably end

566
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Speaker 1: up somewhere. I think Brian will be at the top

567
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Speaker 1: of some people's list. He has enough experience to where

568
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Speaker 1: he would that would not freak me out to see

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Speaker 1: him get a job like that at all. The fact

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Speaker 1: that he's spent time under different head coaches is a

571
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Speaker 1: is a good thing. To me, I think that's a plus.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of seen and learned the ways to do

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Speaker 1: it and the ways not to do it. So I

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Speaker 1: think another guy that's going to be in the mix

575
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Speaker 1: now is a guy like Patrick Graham, the defensive coordinator

576
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Speaker 1: of the Giants. I think you're gonna see his name

577
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: pop up as well. Um, guy have been out of

578
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Speaker 1: the New England tree a little bit, went down to

579
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: Miami with Flores, now ended up with Joe Judge back

580
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: in New York. I think you're gonna see his name

581
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: thrown around a little bit as well. And I think

582
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: those kind of guys are gonna end up being the

583
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Speaker 1: future of this league. You just gotta pair him with

584
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Speaker 1: the right GM and the right set up organizationally, the

585
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: right ownership group so that they have a chance. That's

586
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: the thing. Some of these groups, you know, you see

587
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: them hiring new coaches every three or four years. That's

588
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: a struggle to me. And and so hopefully the support

589
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: is there when these first time coaches do get a

590
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Speaker 1: chance where they're allowed to grow in their own in

591
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Speaker 1: their own way and have people around him that can

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Speaker 1: kind of help them, uh answer some of the questions

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00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: before they even come up. All right, let me ask

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Speaker 1: you about Patrick Graham, because I confess and not knowing

595
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Speaker 1: his in depth background. So he was with the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: last year of the deep ns of coordinator, I'm assuming

597
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Speaker 1: following Flores to Miami and then all of a sudden

598
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Speaker 1: bounces after one year to go with hang out with

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00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: Joe Judge in New York, another Belichick guy. How does

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Speaker 1: he explain that in the interview process. Well, I think

601
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Speaker 1: this this could be a case where it was good

602
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,239
Speaker 1: for everybody. Brian Flores is a good guy. He understands that.

603
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Speaker 1: And and if you look at the defense in Miami,

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Speaker 1: it's always gonna be Brian Flori's defense. He's gonna have

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna be in the middle of that no

606
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Speaker 1: matter what. Now now, and I don't know this, but

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Speaker 1: I think Patrick sees the giant says, Hey, here's a

608
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: chance I can go do my own thing. I can

609
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: make it in my own light. We can exactly attack

610
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: it like I wanted to. I can call my own

611
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: defenses all the time. And so maybe there's more autonomy

612
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: there by him going to New York. Maybe there was

613
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: other personal reasons that led him back to the northeast

614
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: as well. You know, he's a Yale grad, so he's

615
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: from the northeast. I went from Idaho to Miami, and uh,

616
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: Miami wasn't for me, right, so, and I'm just saying,

617
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: maybe it's not for for Patrick either, you know who knows.

618
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: So I do think he's a good code and they

619
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Speaker 1: have done, like I said, a great job of building

620
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Speaker 1: that defense with the Giants, and it's starting to come

621
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: together now and people are starting to recognize it. Yeah, Randy.

622
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Speaker 1: So a name that I don't think is really out

623
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Speaker 1: there again, I you know, being at f S one,

624
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: I made some connections with some really good front office

625
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: folks who have come through the halls over the last

626
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Speaker 1: few years. And the name I keep hearing but I

627
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: haven't seen it out there is Joe Blee Mayor, I think,

628
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: I hope I'm saying that right, the passing game coordinator

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Speaker 1: of the Chiefs. When I started hearing that, oh, maybe

630
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: the Jets will go get the enemy, I started asking around, Okay,

631
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: so is the enemy calling the place? And somebody told

632
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: me that Joe Blee Mayor. I hope I'm saying that right,

633
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 1: actually does more play calling than the enemy. A do

634
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: you know Joe or much about him, and be like,

635
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: if he's Andy Reid's guy, is he even making the

636
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: move to leave the nest? Do you leave Patrick Mahomes

637
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: and that ridiculously talented Chiefs roster. Yeah, I do not

638
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: know the coach that you speak of. I don't would

639
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: not surprise me if he were involved, I know, and

640
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: he involves all of his coaches in the game planning

641
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: and in some of the play calling as well. Um,

642
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: who knows if somebody would leave Mahomes, that'd be a

643
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: hard one. That's like leaving Tom Brady, right. I guess

644
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: though time time comes and you get a chance to

645
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: run your own show, you end up doing that. But

646
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm not as familiar with this guy as you mentioned. Um,

647
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: who knows how that ends up. I think the enemy

648
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: is definitely a leader of men and a really good communicator,

649
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: which happened to be two of the most critical things

650
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: on my list. And I know more about him, so

651
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: I think there is some some merit to him. Uh not,

652
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: It's not not as much of a guessing game with him,

653
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: all right, So just two more questions. Uh, We'll stick

654
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Chiefs. So Andy Reid's tree had

655
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: looked good for a minute. Nage goes to Chicago playoffs

656
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: in the first year, Doug Peterson goes to Philly, gets it,

657
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: wins the super Bowl, and both have really quickly fallen

658
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: on hard times. Maggie looks like he's gonna be out

659
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: at the season's end in Chicago, and Peterson seems to

660
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: have lost his way. I'll ask the general question about

661
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: the Andy retree, but then the second one. How much

662
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: of an impact do you think peterson struggles have to

663
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 1: do with losing Frank Reich, his offensive coordinator to the Colts,

664
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: who's now doing a really, really good job. Well, I

665
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: think Andy does have a great midas touch with his coaches.

666
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: He involves them in very various fashions and gives them

667
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: experience to at least have a chance going forward. Once

668
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: they get on their own, they're on their own right.

669
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: The one thing that I think has made me nervous

670
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: about both the Chicago situation and the Philly situation is

671
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: that the units in question are where those guys expertise lies.

672
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: And remember what I said about they've got to be

673
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: the fixers. They've got to be the guys that figure

674
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: things out well. In my opinion, neither has figured anything out.

675
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: You know, they've not put Trabisky in a great position there.

676
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: They doesn't seem like the game plans favor what he

677
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: can do week to week. And really I'm not going

678
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: to make a case for the quarterback in Philly because

679
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: he has struggled. But at the same time, I don't

680
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: think their game plans a varied week to week either,

681
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: So I don't think Doug has done a great job

682
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: of giving Carson Wentz, you know, maybe the easy throws

683
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: and the things that kind of set him up as well.

684
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: So you both have struggled. Um, I don't know what's

685
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: going to happen in both spots. Again, I get nervous when,

686
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: like you said, with Patricia, the defense was the issue

687
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: in in in Detroit, Atlanta, the defense was the issue,

688
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: Dan quinn. You know, in in Houston the offense was

689
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: a struggle. And guess what that was, Bill O'Brien. So

690
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: I think there's a pattern here that if you can't

691
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: figure it out, and that's your area of expertise. And

692
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: in Maggie's case, he's already let one coordinator go, so

693
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: he's on his second coordinator. There that's and you're talking

694
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: about giving up play calling. I just don't see those

695
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: things ending. Well, all right, I'll wrap up on this.

696
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: So John Elway has had a hell of a time

697
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: trying to find a quarterback, and Randy, I know a

698
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna say, listen, John always a

699
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 1: top five, seven ten quarterback of all time. Guy won

700
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls, one of the best arms. How the

701
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: heck can he not find a quarterback? Randy? I'll ask

702
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: if John Alway came to you and said, hey, man,

703
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: I need some help. What am I missing here? Because

704
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: I keep whipping on every quarterback I make a play on. Yeah,

705
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: how about this? This? This might make you smile, it

706
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: might make you throw up, depending on if you're a

707
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: Bronco fan or not. I remember Josh Allen when he

708
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: came out his senior year. I was in a suite

709
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: in Albertson's stadium at the time in Boise and Wyoman

710
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: was playing in a bowl game. I think they were

711
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: playing like Central Michigan or something like that. Well, this

712
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: was Josh Allen's last game, right, I was in the

713
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: suite watching the game. I was the national scout for

714
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Speaker 1: the Chargers. Next to me is John Elway, who I've

715
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: known for forever, all our time in the n f

716
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: C West. Together. We sat there and watched this game together.

717
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: We didn't talk about Josh Allen. I didn't say a word.

718
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: He didn't really either. But when we left there, I

719
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: remember thinking, on the way of the car, there's no

720
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: way that Broncos are going to pass on this kid,

721
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: No way. I mean, he played a great game, he

722
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: made all the throws, I'll be honest with He kind

723
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: of reminded me of John Elway. I mean, he's big,

724
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: he's wrong, he's got a rocket arm. He did all

725
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: those things. And it came time for the draft that year,

726
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: and I think they picked like fifth or six the

727
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: Broncos did. They picked Bradley Chubb. Josh Allen goes later

728
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: to Buffalo, and ever since then, I always have in

729
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: my mind what did they not like about Josh Allen.

730
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: He came from right up the road, you know, seventy

731
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: miles from Laramie to Denver, right he's close by. They

732
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: saw him play more than anybody. Maybe there was something

733
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: there that they didn't like, but that was one. It

734
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: was more of a swing and a miss without even

735
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, taking the bat off your shoulder, if that

736
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: can be. In the case of they're searching for a quarterback,

737
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: they've drafted more than one that haven't worked out, and

738
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is right in their lap and they don't

739
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: pick him. So I don't know. I mean, I guess

740
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: it's it's hard wild. I totally forgot about that taking Chubb,

741
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: and I forgot about the proximity Wyoming to dinner. Put

742
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: us in that suite there. So you guys don't talk

743
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: about Josh Allen. I mean, you guys have known each

744
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: other for a long time. Ye, I'm sure you talking

745
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: about families and maybe the holidays or whatever. But there's

746
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: no discussion of Alan or you just discussion really no

747
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: discussion of any players per se. They're competitors, right, everybody's

748
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: competing everybod. You're not gonna you're not gonna compare notes

749
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: on players. Uh, that's for sure. I'm gonna keep what

750
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: I know in my pocket and has others with two.

751
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: I think it's funny in that same game, and I've

752
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: been to a million games, It's crazy how you remember one.

753
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: Steve Kim and his owner were in there as well.

754
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: So the GM of the Cardinals. So there were several

755
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: of us in there, and and we had Philip Rivers

756
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: in in in in uh San Diego at the time,

757
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: so we were really looking for a quarterback. I think

758
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: those two teams were looking for a quarterback. So it's

759
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: just amazing. I guess that's why Baskin Robbins has thirty

760
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: one flavors. Right, everybody gets to pick their favorite. You know,

761
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: Kime looks like he drafted Josh Rosen at ten. I

762
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: don't know Rocus in the league, but I do see

763
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: that you guys picked up Derwin James. Uh, not a

764
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: bad not a bad call there, I mean, unfortunately can't

765
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: stay healthy at all. Um. But yeah, so, uh, the

766
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: draft is coming up. How excited are you? Really? Like

767
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna get a little bit of normalcy this year, right,

768
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: I hope. So, I hope the vaccine vaccine comes out

769
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: and people can actually do their jobs and be able

770
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: to have some face to face meetings. I love the

771
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 1: process of preparing for the draft. It's something that carried

772
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: me for thirty years in the league, and I actually

773
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: love that whole process of of coming together as a

774
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: team as a group of men and uh, building a

775
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: consensus on players the way you see him communicating that,

776
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: and I hope we can get back to that at

777
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: some point, that's for sure. Yeah, so do I all right,

778
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: Randy Mueller, thanks a lot for your time, great stuff,

779
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, continued success with the podcast on the athletic

780
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: and uh, enjoy the games. Thanks a lot. Good talking

781
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: to you. The only thing better than sitting on your

782
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: couch watching the game. He's making money while you do it.

783
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: Here's your best bet. Fantastic stuff from random Mueller. I

784
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: just love the inside NFL taking me into the front

785
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: office is I don't know about you, guys. I love

786
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: that stuff. I like learning stuff that I did not know. Uh,

787
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 1: you know, and and Randy Mueller really took us inside

788
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: that Nick Saban situation. Man, wild stuff. All right, let's

789
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 1: get to the best bet here on straight fire, nice

790
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: easy winner on Thursday night. Thank you l A Rams

791
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: Patriots under easily cashing. Not a big sweat. I will

792
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: admit an early ninety yard or eight r defensive touchdown

793
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: will throw a monkey wrench into things. Um, but this

794
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: is a bad Patriots team, bottom line. And uh, barring

795
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: some real wild chaos in the a f c um

796
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots will not be going to the playoffs, and

797
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear who won the breakup between Tom Brady

798
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick. Let's get to our best bets for

799
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: Week four teen. I'm starting with my New York Jets. No,

800
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm not taking the points. Seattle Jets under forty seven

801
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: and a half. So my read on this one is

802
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: Seattle's coming off a devastating loss to the Giants. I

803
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: know you're thinking, like, it's not that big of a deal. Well,

804
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: they had a shot at the number one seat. The

805
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: schedule lined up for Seattle to make a run at

806
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: the number one seed in the NFC and losing that

807
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: game to the Giants. I mean, you know, i didn't

808
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: play in the NFL, but I've talked to many coaches

809
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: and players who come through FS one. I'm like a

810
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: sponge trying to learn stuff. And the level of refocus

811
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: that's happening in Seattle this week off that loss is

812
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: one of Oh, the Rams are right there, and um,

813
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: they just beat the Patriots and we can't monkey around you.

814
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: We gotta put the Jets away. Plus the Jamal Adams factor, Uh,

815
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: you know he knows this team very well. Um, and

816
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: he knows Adam Gaze, and obviously they had a very

817
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: ugly relationship. I just I don't know how the Jets

818
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: are able to score on this rapidly improving Seattle defense.

819
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: The Jets ran for two yards last week right um

820
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: against the Raiders, and that kept them in the game.

821
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: When Sam Donald had to drop back and pass, he

822
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: had he got strip sacked twice. He had an interception

823
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: on three straight possessions. Um. Problem is it's a lot

824
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: tougher to run against this Seattle team. Uh. Now, we

825
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: did see the Giants. Gallman broke a couple of big

826
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: ones out of sixty five yard or but down to down,

827
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: the Giants could barely move the football. And I can

828
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: sense a Seattle defensive performance here that shuts down the

829
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: Jets totally. Um, this to me feels like a twenty

830
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: four to six kind of game, maybe thirty one to nine.

831
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: I got the Jets Seattle under forty seven and a half.

832
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: My next pick, you're gonna hate. You're gonna vomit in

833
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: your mouth when I say it, but I have to

834
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: do it. Um, I am gonna go with the Pittsburgh

835
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: Steelers getting to now, I didn't get the best of

836
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: the number. Unfortunately, that's what really stinks because this was

837
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: two and a half on Thursday and this morning it's

838
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: down to two. So there and there's gonna be more

839
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: money coming in on the on the Steelers here. This

840
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: one's this is just an overreaction in the market. You

841
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: guys know how markets work. Um, there are overreactions to

842
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: recency bias. And a week ago, the Steelers were favored

843
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: in this spot by two two and a half. Now

844
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: it swung a total of four or five points, depending

845
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: on what you can get this morning. If you're listening

846
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: on Friday morning, and Buffalo's favorite. Now, um, the big

847
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: thing I have to monitor is the Pittsburgh Steelers injury report.

848
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm giving out two. I have bet plus two, um,

849
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: but I will not feel great about the bet going

850
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: into practice, going into the weekend because a couple of things.

851
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: Number One, Chase Claypool has now missed two days of

852
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: practice due to an illness. There's no sign of covid um,

853
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: but he just listed his illness. Also, Robert Spillane, the linebacker,

854
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: the guy who stuck Derrick Henry, if you guys remember

855
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: that way back, Uh, tough guy, really good linebacker. He

856
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: hasn't practiced this week. Left the Washington game early. Quarterback

857
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: Joe Hayden in concussion protocol. Um, this is all not

858
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: very good going against a Bill's offense that is very

859
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: very impressive. UM. I'm taking Pittsburgh for a couple of

860
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: big reasons. Number one, I believe this is gonna be

861
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: a t J. Watt game. If you guys watched Chargers

862
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: Bills a couple of weeks ago, and of course I

863
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: had Chargers in that one. UM, it hurt. It was

864
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: a loss. Joey Bosa totally wrecked Josh Allen and the

865
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: Buffalo offense. He was so dominant off the edge. He

866
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: had three sacks and six tackles for loss. He was

867
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: living in the backfield and he really disrupted that quick

868
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: passing game. And what if t J. Watt can do

869
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: the same. I do believe that it will disrupt Alan

870
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: a little bit. He doesn't look like he wants to

871
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: run after suffering that knee injury at the hands of Bosa. Um,

872
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: he didn't run as much against Sanford's still very mobile. Um.

873
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: But coming off a loss, I have to back Pittsburgh here, folks,

874
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: there are eleven in one and there's suddenly an underdog.

875
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin absolutely loves the underdog role. He relishes it.

876
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: Eighteen eleven and one in the last thirty games as

877
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: a road underdog. That's that's what Mike Tomlin does. He's

878
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: not good in the spots against bad teens. He has

879
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: is a tough time sometimes getting his guys up for those,

880
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: But for these big games, he's able to get the

881
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: laser focus. Um and and he's a very big, raw,

882
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: raw guy. He's like you see him on the sideline.

883
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: He's he's fiery. I like that. I consider myself a

884
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: fiery guy. So I'm taking the Steelers getting two points

885
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: on the road. Weather doesn't look like it's gonna be

886
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: a major factor. If anything, it could be windy, which

887
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: I think hurts Josh Allen more than anything. I do

888
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: worry about the Pittsburgh offense. Hopefully Connor's back in the

889
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: offensive line's healthy. But there is a chance folks that, um,

890
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: you know, come Sunday morning, if for some reason Claypool

891
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: ain't playing and Spillane is not playing and Hayden's not playing,

892
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna hate this bet. And you know, I don't

893
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: know that I'd recommend it, but I'm taking Steelers at two. Um,

894
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: I think they win out right. So that's my second bet.

895
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: Jets Seahawks under forty seven and a half Pittsburgh plus two.

896
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Ravens favored by two and a half

897
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: against Baltimore. This is a major showdown, uh in the

898
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: a f C North, and you know, I just feel

899
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: like this number is a little bit light. You know,

900
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: the public is gonna come in on Cleveland. I mean,

901
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield four touchdowns in the first half, they whoop

902
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: up on Tennessee and um, remember everybody loaded up on

903
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: Tennessee last week and then on the game day a

904
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: lot of money came in on Cleveland. I like Baltimore

905
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: here for one thing. Pressure. We know Baker Mayfield has

906
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: folded under pressure. That's the big, the big knock on

907
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: him in his career. And what did Tennessee do last week?

908
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: They didn't pressure him. They had one quarterback hit like

909
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna cut it. Baltimore will get pressure on

910
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Now. I didn't totally see it on Tuesday

911
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: against Dallas because everybody was still coming back from COVID.

912
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: You could tell nobody was on that Baltimore front seven.

913
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna dial up the pressure. And now you're talking

914
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: about a much better secondary in Baltimore, right, Peters, Jimmy Smith, Humphrey. Uh,

915
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: the Tennessee secondary is terrible. UM, I don't know if

916
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: Higgins and Donovan people Jones are gonna have as much

917
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: success against this Baltimore secondary. I'm taking the Ravens getting

918
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: two and a half. I would suspect that hits three

919
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: uh much closer to game time, so I recommend getting

920
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: that early. I'm gonna give out a fourth and it's

921
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: a UM, it's a terrific teaser. It is taking two

922
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: big spreads, uh Tennessee and green Bay and taking them

923
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: through the key numbers of seven and three. And I'm

924
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: betting Tennessee favorite by one and a half and green

925
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: Bay favorite by one and a half. Tennessee will bounce

926
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: back and beat Jacksonville. The question is by how much

927
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: do they win it? Like by three because Mike Glennan

928
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: suddenly plucky and Tennessee defense stinks, um, or do they

929
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: win big bouncing back against pretty much an overrated Jacksonville

930
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: team that somehow was able to stick around against Minnesota

931
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: last week. UM? I like Tennessee Favorite by one and

932
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: a half on the teaser and Green Bay. Um, I

933
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: think I might end up betting Green Bay in the

934
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: contest their favorite by seven and a half. You tease

935
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: it down to one and a half. You give me

936
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in a dome where this season he has

937
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: thrown I believe, fourteen touchdowns and one interception. Uh. You know,

938
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: you watch the Packers and you almost feel like Rogers

939
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: and the Floor are trying to get Rogers an m

940
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: v P. They throw so much when they are up big,

941
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: they love to throw Rogers touchdown passes inside the ten. Um,

942
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, He's not going down on a seventy yard

943
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: breakaway late in the game. He's adding points like these

944
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: Packers want style points. And I'm toying with this idea

945
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 1: that everybody who's been bagging on the Floor and Rogers,

946
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: including myself in the off season, I took some shots. Um.

947
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if maybe this is an upgrade, given how

948
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: ugly things were between Rogers and McCarthy at the end.

949
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: Remember they really fell apart that final season. Um, and

950
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: La Flora and Rodgers are just coasting. They're wrecking people. Yeah,

951
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: the defense stinks, so but teasing them. They gotta win

952
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: the game by by two points. So if you take

953
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee down one and a half in green Bay down

954
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: and one and a half, I'm feeling real good. So

955
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: those are the four plays Baltimore favored by two and

956
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: a half, um, Pittsburgh getting two in Buffalo, and Seattle

957
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: Jets under forty seven and a half. Obviously, I want

958
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: to thank the Patriots and Rams for staying under for

959
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: a no sweat Thursday night cover. Let's let's crush it,

960
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: Let's go four another this weekend. Everybody I'll see on Monday.