1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: So if everybody welcome into a Monday edition of Texans 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I am 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: your host, John Harris Football, an old sideline reporter, and 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: like everybody in the building supposed to be on vacation, 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: but no, I'm coming to you live tonight from the crib. 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: I think I believe wherever I am I'm in some 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: dark cave somewhere, so I'm assuming that it is my house, 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: and I'm glad you are here with me now because 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: this is a week in which pretty much everybody's out 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: of the building. There's not much going on in Texans Land, 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: just Texans specifically. Now. There is obviously stuff always happening 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: with the NFL, but we've always thought with this week 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: that Mark affectionally labels the Desert, that we can get 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: caught back up on some things we thought were pretty 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: good content. So tonight we are jam packed with some stuff. 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna kick it off with something very cool. I'll 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: explaining that in a second, but we also are going 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: to have a deep slant with Pharaoh Brown, who is 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: one of the more interesting stories the Texans have had 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: here in a while, and when healthy could be a 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: whale of a player. And in the final segment we'll 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: do a little branding. Cooks stopping by the show to 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: give his thoughts in a little deep slant as well. 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: But to kick off the show, this is a little something. 25 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: If you missed it, man, you missed out on something 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: that was pretty fun. However, you get caught up with it. 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: And even if you heard it well, I don't know 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: months ago, you get a chance to hear it. And 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: it is our In the Lab Ultimate Draft. Drew Dorty myself. 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: We make up the In the Lab podcast and we 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: were coming up with an idea, ideas, and this one 32 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: popped up. I think Drew came up with it and said, look, 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: what about if we did a draft in which we 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: picked one player per thirty two teams to fill out 35 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: an entire roster. And I thought, I love the idea. 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: I love the idea. Let's do it. And then as 37 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: I started getting ready for it, because full disclosure, when 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: we do a lot of these things, I'm just riffing 39 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: off top of my head because a lot of this 40 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: stuff just is stored in there. I just got to 41 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: figure out which cabinet it's in. But this one, I'm like, man, 42 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: I better prepare for this one a little bit. And 43 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: as I did, I was like, Wow, there are a 44 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: lot of different ways to approach this. This could be 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: really interesting. But man, I'll tell you this. And I 46 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: started looking at the teams and then I started you 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: can think about priority positions. Man, I knew right away 48 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: I had to have a particular team and a particular 49 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: player right off the bat. Now, some of these teams, 50 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: it was pretty tough to like narrow it down. Some 51 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: teams it was really easy. Some teams it was difficult 52 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: because you would get other positions filled and you're like, man, 53 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: I really need this position, but they only have this guy. 54 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: So I got to do this guy. Then I got 55 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: to reconfigure some of the guys I'm thinking about. Man, 56 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: it was really interesting kind of a thought process to 57 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: go through. So tonight it is Round one of Drew Doherty, 58 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: John Harris, the ultimate NFL Draft, One player, one team. 59 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: All right, it's time to draft. Oh yeah, So to reiterate, Okay, 60 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: we're choosing a team of thirty two players, and I 61 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: know a roster on game day has forty six, but yes, 62 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: roll with thirty two and then you can kind of 63 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: fill in the back end with whoever right, We've got 64 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: thirty two picks. It starts. Now you get to go first. 65 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: Oh yes, this one's very easy to me, go for it, 66 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: very easy because it is to me, a priority position 67 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: in the league. It's with a team where I struggle 68 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: to find players. Really what I was gonna do, and 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: you give me the first pick. To me, it's a 70 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: drop dead lock. It's got to be Anthony Munio. So 71 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: since Andy Bengals a left tackle, you go with MNOs 72 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: right off the bats Bengals. Good choice. Oh man, all right, 73 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: I had no idea what I was doing with the 74 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: Bengals at all, and that just that that handles it. 75 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: So I feel good, all right. Yeah, So in that regard, 76 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: in a similar situation, it's really kind of tricky and 77 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: really kind of tough. Yeah, but I'm gonna go to 78 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: Atlanta and I'm gonna take Dion Sanders off the board. 79 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one, dead gum it. That's a 80 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: good one because I that's another the one part of 81 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: this was the franchise is trying to figure out that's 82 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: the beauty. Oh man, Okay, you're going the same way 83 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm going. Yeah, to degree now, I also feel like 84 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: there's a position that is probably more difficult than others. 85 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: No left tackle is easy, but Cincinnati to me was hard. 86 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: One team that has no issue as far as having 87 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: plenty of players, but I think they have the greatest 88 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: player this position. And that's why I'm taking Larry Allen 89 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys and offensive guard solid. Yeah. You 90 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: can see my you can see how I'm building. I'm 91 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: building with my lines, and so that's where I'm going 92 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: with those two. And I'm staying fairly true to my board. 93 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm fairly true, fairly true. I'm gonna go to the 94 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: New York Giants and I'm taking lt Man. Yeah, that's 95 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: a good one, all right, So yo, so lts off 96 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 1: the board. Oh man, I think I have the best 97 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: corner and the best yeah pass rusher right right there. 98 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: And it's tough because those two franchises. I think you're 99 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: taking steps down after those two guys. Yeah, I will. 100 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: There's no question not to say great players, but I 101 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: think those guys are like yeah, and we with our 102 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: first two picks, we should feel like Anthony Munio's Larry 103 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: Allen to the best offensive lineman's to best offensive line 104 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: is all right, I'm gonna gonna do right now, because 105 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: I do think when it comes to our franchise, I'm 106 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: gonna force you into having to make a decision on 107 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: our franchise. So I'm just gonna go do it and 108 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: take Justin James Watt from the Houston Texans as one 109 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: of my defensive lineman edge rushers. However you want to 110 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: do it. J J. Watt is now a Houston Harris, 111 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: no argument. That's who I would have chosen first from 112 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: the Texans, simply because best player in the league defensive league, Yeah, 113 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: as voted by the folks three years. I think he 114 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: could have made a case for yeah the thirteen season two, 115 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: even though it's a bagger. Okay, I have like a list, 116 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: and then I have a list. I had a list 117 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: of just guys that I definitely want on my team 118 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: no matter what. Why yeah you did say, yep? And 119 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: then I've got another list each franchise. And so I'm 120 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: gonna go back to my list, and I'm gonna go 121 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Browns, and I'm gonna take the guy 122 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: that my dad has always maintained is the best football 123 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: player of all time, not the best quarterback, but the 124 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: best football player of all time Jim Brown, So I'm 125 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: gonna go with him. It's a good one. He was 126 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: amazing back in the day. Yeah, retired early, could have 127 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: kept going, but uh yeah, he was just he was insane. 128 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: Back when Sports Century ESPN did that Sports Century series. 129 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: At the end of the last century, I think he 130 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: was fourth maybe on the all time list. So I'm 131 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: gonna makes it tougher on you choosing a Brown. I 132 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: guess you gotta go take the Mayfield. Now I'm gonna 133 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: have to. I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna have to 134 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: reach way back. But I think I have one for 135 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: the Browns. And since you've taken a Brown, I don't 136 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: have to worry about you taking I got like Ozzie, 137 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: so I could still get a Hall of Famer at 138 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: tight end, which I've I've thought about, but you know, 139 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: there are certain positions that I look at it and 140 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: go all right, where do I feel like is the best? 141 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: And then I thought about twenty fourteen, and I'm like, man, 142 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: what if the Texans had drafted with the number one 143 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: pick Aaron Donalds. So I'm gonna make it happen. I'm 144 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: putting a defensive tackle along with JJ Watt, and think 145 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: about what could have happened. I'm putting Aaron Donald with 146 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: JJ Watt of the Texans. So thus far I've gone 147 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: lines Anthony Munius left tackle, Larry Allen Cowboys at guard, 148 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: and then the great JJ Watt and Aaron Donald together. 149 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: So I've got two Hall of famers and two active 150 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: players that eventually will make the Hall of Fame. And 151 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: amongst the two of us, in four we made four picks, 152 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: yet you have made jors yet, so seven picks thus far, 153 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: three of them are the three players that have one 154 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year three times. That's pretty amazing, 155 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: pretty good. All right, I'm gonna go back to the 156 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: well up front. I'm like you, you gotta be good upfront. 157 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: And I think we're waiting. We're kind of dancing around 158 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback here. I'm still gonna dance. I'm not taking 159 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: a quarterback yet. I'm gonna go back to the team 160 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: that broke my heart so many times as a young lad, 161 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: loved him so much. Lots of choices of players you 162 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: could take, but I'm gonna take a guy who you 163 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: can argue I don't think he is, but you can 164 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: argue is the greatest oiler of all time. Most people 165 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: are gonna say Earl Campbell understandably. So I'm gonna get 166 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: with a guy because I think there's a lot of 167 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: great running backs that you could cycle in there with Earl, 168 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: and I might choose him. Well, no, I can't because 169 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing this, But I'm going with Bruce Matthews because 170 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: you can't play anywhere. He was pro bowler at all 171 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: five positions up front. But I'm gonna choose him so 172 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: that I can't take any Titans. I can't take any 173 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: more oilers. Yeah, but I'd like to take Earl Campbell. 174 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: I'd pretty much given him to you if you want. 175 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 1: You know, the thing about running back, I you know, 176 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to lose the opportunity for running backs, 177 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: but I just feel like there are some options at 178 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: running back, so I don't I don't feel I don't 179 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: feel horrible about that. I'm gonna stick with the I'm 180 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: gonna stick with the lines and go back to the 181 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: offensive line on this one because I watched this guy 182 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: growing up and I felt like before he was injured, 183 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: he was the greatest center that ever lived. I'm going 184 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins. I'm gonna take Dwight Stevenson at center. 185 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: Good choice. Yeah, his last year in the league was 186 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven. He was an All Pro and he'd 187 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: been All Pro I think the previous four years before that. 188 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, and so that takes my dolphin off the board. 189 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: And you know, it's interesting because I had a lot. 190 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I had a bunch of Dolphins that I 191 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: had written down like that I want to, you know, 192 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: have on my board. And I was like, and then 193 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: I wrote steven stew I was like, no, I've gotta 194 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: get I've got to get him. Because after that, for centers, 195 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: I mean, look, there are some options. There's no doubt 196 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: there's a great one. I don't want to give you 197 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: any ideas. But I felt like with Miami, I wasn't 198 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: Marino was not gonna be my guy. And then I 199 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: was like, where else would I go with Miami? And 200 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: that that that hit me, and I'll go that way. 201 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: Zach Thomas would have been another guy, look at a linebacker, 202 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: just because of how productive he was. I think he 203 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: should be in the Hall of Fame. Yes, I think 204 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: it's there's no question. I think it's an oversight right 205 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: now that he should be in the Hall of Fame. 206 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: It was really cool when I was in Lubbock. I 207 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: was there from two thousand and five to two thousand 208 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: and nine oh six, oh seven ish. During that Dolphins 209 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: bye week, the Lubbock Chamber of Commerce had him back, 210 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: had Zach Thomas back, and they honored him and it 211 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: was a massive turnout. He was there, Jason Taylor was there, 212 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: a few other Dolphins. I think Wes Welker was back 213 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: because yeah, I believe it was oh six because he 214 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: would have been still with the Dolphins. Yes, it was 215 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: really cool, cool, cool thing there. Okayum Seattle is a 216 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: tricky franchise, so with Steve Largent and you wouldn't be 217 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: wrong going there with wide receiver. But I like the 218 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: left tackle. I want to be good up front, and 219 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: I think this Chester pit. So I'm with every Sunday 220 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: at home in the Texans play a game and he 221 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: comes on the shows a couple times. In the offseason. 222 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: He played left guard. He started out as a left tackle. 223 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: Knows how tough it is to play offensive line in 224 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: the NFL, and he is adamant about Walter Jones being 225 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: the greatest left tackle of all time says it's not 226 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: even a debate, and I tried to debate him and say, 227 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Anthony Muneo, so he wouldn't have any of it. That's 228 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: that's for another time. But I'm gonna I'm gonna honor 229 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: Chester's pick here. This is kind of a proxy pick, 230 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go with Walter Jones, and I'm gonna 231 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: eliminate my Seahawks choice off the board. So I've got 232 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: an offensive line of Matthews and Walter Jones so far. Boy, 233 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: that is that's pretty good. Now I'm gonna go to 234 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: a team that I felt like buzz, I felt like 235 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: very tricky, even though they've been around for sixty some 236 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: odd years. But I started thinking about them, going, man, 237 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: what am I gonna do from the Vikings? And I 238 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: just you have about thirty one opportunities availability here. That 239 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: was a really tough one. They have so many great, 240 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: great players, right, and then I started thinking, all, right, 241 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: where did they have a great player where I feel 242 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: like I can kind of continue with my theme in 243 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: some sense, And I'm I'm literally going one of two ways. 244 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: But in my heart of hearts, I do feel like 245 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: because what I've done with the defensive line, I don't 246 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: have to go there. So I'm gonna go with guard 247 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame guard, and I think one of the 248 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: better ones ever, Randall McDaniel from the Minnesota Vikings, and 249 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put him opposite Larry Allen. I was always 250 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: a big fan of Random McDaniel, the Hall of Fame 251 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: offensive guard. So my offensive line, it's really has really 252 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: come come into view. But I, you know, Drew, I struggled, 253 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: and I don't know. Maybe that's because I grew up 254 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: as a Packers fan and just hated the Vikings. But 255 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: there was one guy considered. But then I was like, 256 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: I we talked about this earlier, Randy Moss. Is he 257 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: a Viking? Is he a Patriot? Like? What is he? 258 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: And so I wanted to stay true to the franchise 259 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: aspect of things, and so I went with McDaniel, who 260 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: spent his majority, the majority, if not all, of his 261 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: career with the Minnesota Vikings. And I don't know that. 262 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: My man, Tyler Suttart is like, yeah, forks up, baby, 263 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: sun da bla blah blah blah blah. So he's happy 264 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: with that. So there we go, all right, Another franchise 265 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: that's been around along time and has had a lot 266 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: of great players, and they won a lot of championships, 267 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: but they haven't done it since Eisenhower was president. I 268 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: think the Detroit Lions. M Yeah, now, I already took 269 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: a running back. I took Jim Brown attempted here, but 270 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: instead I'm gonna go with a wide receiver are Alvin Johnson. 271 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best lines of all time, 272 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: and I don't have a big playmaking pass catcher yet, 273 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna get make a tron. I still don't 274 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: know how we stopped him in the second half in two, 275 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: because he did in the first half was like with ease, 276 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: and I thought he was gonna have seven touchdowns that day. 277 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he just went to town. So the Lions 278 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: are off the board for me. Yeah, Lions off the 279 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: board for you. Now off the board for me. Bengals, Cowboys, Dolphins, Vikings, Texans, Rams. 280 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: In doing this exercise, one of the things that you 281 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: think about are yours most recent franchises, because those obviously, 282 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: mathematically would seemingly have fewer players that you would want 283 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: to just grasp onto. And that's that's the guy yep. 284 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: So I got to finish my offensive line. So this one, 285 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: to me was easy because I think he should be 286 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame and he was actually a 287 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: Texan for a period. My final pick and I will 288 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: move him over the right tackle, and I feel okay 289 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: with that. No, you got one more? This is seven? Yeah, 290 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: I know. Oh, but I'm finishing my offensive line by 291 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: adding Tony Basselli to my line. My two tackles are 292 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: from USC. Both them played in the AFC. But I 293 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: wasn't totally sure what I wanted to do with Jacksonville, 294 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: even though I lived there and I know they've had 295 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: some players. I just felt like there wasn't anybody other 296 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: than to me and Basselli's the greatest jaguarthers been. I 297 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: think he should go into the Hall of Fame. It 298 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: should be in the Hall of Fame. And I feel like, 299 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: you're sure you're gone in with this crew? Please not. 300 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: But I wasn't sure exactly where I would go with 301 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: the Jags, and so I was like, you know what, 302 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: Masselli's the best Jag brother's been. Finishes my offensive line. 303 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: I feel good about that. Away we go. Now you 304 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: have to you have to decide it Toredy from Jacksonville. 305 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: I was, well, I know where I'm going to, Jacksonville. 306 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: It's easy. I'm I'm gonna wait. I don't need to 307 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: do that now. But the Eagles is offensive franchise. It's 308 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: tough and uh because they've had a lot of great players, 309 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: but I think the drop off after this guy is 310 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: pretty substantial. So I'm gonna go with Reggie White from 311 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: the Eagles, the minister of defense. So I've got Reggie, 312 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: I've got Lawrence Taylor. Now that's a weird defense. What 313 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: are you gonna run? You're gonna run three four four three. 314 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it really matters just then any of that. 315 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: So I'm going with Reggie White. All Right, you can't 316 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: take him from the Packers, but I didn't think he would. 317 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: And that's who I'm gonna go with. Okay, quarterback bro Yeah, 318 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: So I'm going back to the thought of most recent 319 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: franchises because to me, trying to trying to find all 320 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: time players in some sense from a particular franchise gets 321 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: pretty difficult, especially after Bassellia. I know you probably have one. 322 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: I actually have one that I could have gone with 323 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: that might have been shocking, and I think he actually 324 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: should be up with all of famer that I'll leave 325 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: that for a different time. And when you go to Jacksonville, 326 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: you actually see him doing the Chester Pits thing with 327 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: like Chester does with you up on the board. You 328 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: see him there. But I don't want to give you 329 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: any ideas. But he's a running back. You've already got 330 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: a running back. So I'm going to the Carolina Panthers. 331 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: And so at this point, I'm thinking, Yeah, I met 332 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: him in twenty eleven at the Lombardi Awards. I thought 333 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: he was absolutely awesome. I've loved him. I'm good he 334 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: ended up in Carolina. He was my nephews and niece's 335 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: favorite player. Everybody loves Luke Keekley. I'm adding, the smartest 336 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: defensive player ever. You don't get all I have Luke Keikley, 337 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, JJ Watt. I feel very good about what 338 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm doing. Take the Carolina Panthers off the board, and look, 339 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: you're not dead in the water with Panthers, but Panthers 340 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: and Jags. Yeah, I know who you could go with 341 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: the Panthers, and it actually would be a very very 342 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: good pick because, like you said, when we started all this, 343 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: you've got other jobs on a football team that you've 344 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: got to get taken care of. And if you can 345 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: do it with more than all player, or do the 346 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: more jobs with one player, then you're gonna be sitting 347 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 1: pretty So that was my eighth pick of the day. 348 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: Luke Keikley from the Carolina Panthers. It's a good all right, 349 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: you got one left, got me, So we're gonna just 350 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: do eight today. I like this. Originally I said, hey, 351 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: let's do sixteen, but we can break this up over four. 352 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: And this is gonna be pretty easy to do as 353 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: far as like setting it up and making it go 354 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: and all that other stuff. But I've got a great 355 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: right tackle, excuse me, a great left tackle, and I 356 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna start and start to round out my 357 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: offensive line. As you know, I went to SMU. I 358 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: was there in pretty pretty lean times. Not the leanest 359 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: SMU times, but they were pretty lean. The texts of 360 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: they losing seasons. My freshman, junior, and senior years went 361 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: six and five. As a sophomore, played in the Cotton 362 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: Bowl and that was our home stadium. We never played 363 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: an a bowl game, but the home stadium back then 364 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 1: for the SMU Mustangs was the Cotton Bowl, and as 365 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, the conton Bowl seats what seventy eighty thousand? Yea, 366 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: we would routinely pack sixteen thousand on a good day. 367 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: So rall out and kick your legs up. And didn't 368 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: see too many great players come through. Chris Fumat, Mafala, 369 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: Bryan Rlocker. I think they were some guys that we saw. Yeah, 370 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: but one of the greatest Samme Mustangs of all time 371 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: to play. He came back and was the first coach 372 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: after the death penalty to kind of get him back 373 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: on their feet. Did an admirable job there. But this 374 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: guy was a hell of a football player for the 375 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. He was a right tackle. He's in 376 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Many say he's maybe the one 377 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: of the greatest offensive linement of all time. I'm gonna 378 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: go with Forest Greg. So I've got Forest Greg, I've 379 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: got Walter Jones over at left tackle. I've got Bruce 380 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: Matthews sort of Roman wherever he's We're gonna figure out 381 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: a spot for him and the guard center guard spot. 382 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: But I'm going with Forrest Greg and I'm gonna give 383 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: you lots of options when we start picking again for 384 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: the Packers. But to reiterate your line, you started off 385 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: with Anthony Munos of the Bengals. You got Larry Allen 386 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: from the Cowboys. That was your second pick offensive lineman. 387 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: Your third pick with J. J. Watts the Texans. He's 388 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: he's a versatile guy. He can play end, he can 389 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: do a lot play on the inside. We know that 390 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: you went with Aaron Donald Man. He got Watton Donald, 391 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: two greatest defensive players of this decade. And then after 392 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: that you had Stevenson, Dwight Stevenson the center, All Pro 393 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: from the Dolphins, Random McDaniel, All Pro guard from the Vikings. 394 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: You got Tony Passelli of the Jaguars. You took I 395 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: think he's probably the greatest Jaguar. He took him off 396 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: the board. And then you wrap things up with probably 397 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: the greatest Panther, and that was who I was going 398 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: to pick, Luke Keekley at linebacker. That's a good, good unit. 399 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: You've got a good start there, John. Neither of us 400 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: have picked a quarterback yet. Yeah, and there's still time 401 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: for that. I don't want to say that it's in 402 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: this exercise. I feel like this was that's the most 403 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: that's the easiest position to pick. If I don't know, 404 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong in that, because I feel like I 405 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: can go a lot of different ways with that particular pick. 406 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: There are a couple of franchises I'm struggling with, Oh yeah, 407 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: where do I like? Where do I want to Where 408 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: do I really want to go with this? And back 409 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: to quarterback. There's two franchises I'll say three actually that 410 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: I've looked at that I would really like to choose 411 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: that quarterback, but they have perhaps the greatest player at 412 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: their position, yeah, at another spot, and in two cases 413 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: they've got two greater two other players, so I can't 414 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: go wrong. Like, once one of us chooses one of 415 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: these players, it's gonna make it easier, you know, I 416 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: think could. Yeah, well, I'm out of the match shop business, 417 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: Tony Banks, Um Brock Oswiler because I took J. J. Watts, 418 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, but um we didn't say Sage Rosenfels, Yeah yeah, 419 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: Sage Sorry, Um yeah about taking Larry Allen. I'm out 420 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: of the Tony Romo, Roger Staback, Dak Presscott, you know, 421 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: cowboys cowboys business. But I feel like when I look 422 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: at I mean, no, no quarterback was taken. So I 423 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: look at my top I just wrote down my top 424 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: six and you can go. I mean, man, you can go. However, 425 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: however far you want to, to be honest with you, 426 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: because we haven't taken one. So that, to me is 427 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: the biggest curiosity is how that will unfold. And I've 428 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: just got to make sure I don't pin myself into 429 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: a corner because I just look at a couple of 430 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: France does and go, man, I don't know, I really, 431 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: I really don't know. So so I gave the rundown 432 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: of yours Dion Sanders from the Falcons, Lawrence Taylor from 433 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: the Giants. I think I got the greatest cover corner 434 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: and one of the greatest pass rushers of all time. 435 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: Then I got Jim Brown from the Browns, Bruce Matthews 436 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: from the Oilers, Walter Jones from the Seahawks, Calvin Johnson 437 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: from the Lions, Reggie White from the Eagles, and Forrest 438 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: greg from the Packers. All Right, that was a pretty 439 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: awesome night one. Well at night two to night three 440 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: to see how we finished up over the next couple 441 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: of nights. But we had a really good time with 442 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: that one, no doubt. All Right, coming up next, let's 443 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: go deep Slant with Barrel Brown right here in Texas. 444 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: Axis It's it's a axis. It's it's a axis. It's 445 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: it's axis. Welcome back this Monday edition the Texans All 446 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, 447 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: John Harris. Hope you enjoyed the Ultimate in the Lab Draft. 448 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: That was fun. If you miss it, obviously you can 449 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: go to the podcast war for you the next couple 450 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: of nights as well. But right now it's time to 451 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: go deep Slant with Dpcity. I love when she does 452 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: these interviews, especially when she has a subject like Pharaoh Brown. Now, 453 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: if you don't know the story about Farrell Brown, he 454 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: was a stud at Oregon Towrup's knee and tore it 455 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: up pretty badly, and at that point, nobody really was 456 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: sure what he had left in the tank if he 457 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: was gonna make it back. When he scored a touchdown 458 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: against the Browns, because he's from that area and he 459 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: knew a number of the players and the Browns, and 460 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: I want to say he had spent time with the 461 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: Browns as well. They were just ecstatic for him, and 462 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: I thought that was really really cool. Well, the behind 463 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: the scenes story of it all is that much more compelling. 464 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: So here it is Deep City with Pharaoh Brown. Let's 465 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: start with your name. I like the name Pharaoh. I 466 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: think that's probably has to have a good story behind it, 467 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: or does it. So my dad wanted us all to 468 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: have like royal names, and my mom was reading like 469 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: a book or watching the movie and I can't remember 470 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: what the movie was. I shouldn't know, but she was 471 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: like she heard it, and she was just like she 472 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna tell nobody the name, because you know, like 473 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: that's always like a fun thing. Like everybody he tells 474 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: somebody you're gonna name your son this, and they'd be like, well, 475 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: I know a guy and this thing. He's a jerk 476 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: or something. She just held it and then she just 477 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: named me that, and everybody was just like shock and 478 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: just kind of fell in love with it. And that's 479 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: kind of how I got it, all right. So you 480 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: have siblings that have royal names, too, Uh, yeah, I 481 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: have like Prince Michael Benjamin Queen Urra. I think I 482 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: got like one of the coolest names. I actually named 483 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: my son Tightest. So it's kind of a world name 484 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: that is a great family tradition. All right, So no 485 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: one's ever gonna forget your first name. Ever, I read 486 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: somewhere that you are kind of a basketball standout yourself 487 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: in high school. How did you decide to go to 488 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: the football rounds to the basketball? One of the coaches 489 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: actually came to me was told me that I was 490 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: averaging basketball as like myself, not my ability, but as 491 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: in like my my height and weight. He was like, 492 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, your six six. These NBA guys are six eight, sixteen. 493 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: You know, football, you're kind of like a He told me, 494 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: it's like you'll go to the league just off your height, 495 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: you know. So, uh, the money sounded kind of good. 496 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: But looking back, I mean I probably should have sticked 497 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: with the basketball. It's a lot fewer games, but yeah, 498 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, I actually play. We talked about it 499 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: the other day our tight end room. We kind of 500 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: like a starting five, probably up against anybody's because you 501 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: guys do have a really good, really really good starting five. 502 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: You guys are all very athletic in multiple sports in 503 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: that Titan group. All right, So before you got to Houston, 504 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: before you got to Texas, how much did you know 505 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: about the city, How much did you know about Texas? 506 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: Had you ever been here? Do you have any ties? 507 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: Two of my uncles actually lived out here. I trained 508 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: out here for like three months. You did two summers ago, 509 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: so I kind of been down here and it was 510 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: kind of familiar. I'm still learning about it. A lady 511 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: gave me a whole spiel when I was picking out 512 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: furniture about the I don't want to get it wrong. 513 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: They might talk about me. Is it the Cowboy Day? 514 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's called. They say it's a 515 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: big dealer. Oh oh yeah, go Texan Day? No, is 516 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: that when they do all the stuff here, it's like 517 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: a big They say they sail cows and they got 518 00:28:53,080 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: the Derby or the rodeo Rodeo. Yeah, yeah, that's Hee 519 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 1: gave me a whole spiel how to rodeo, the cancer 520 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: roudio and stuff. She said, well, you know you're a 521 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: Texan when you actually buy the boots and the hats. 522 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: So once you get that, then you're totally a Texan. 523 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna find me someone. We're in to 524 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: a game. Well, I want to ask you about your 525 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: college days, because in just reading about you and learning 526 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: about you, the one thing that really stood out was 527 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: the fact that you had just a really serious injury 528 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: in college that you overcame and that's allowed you to 529 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: keep playing football. And it's not just any injury. It 530 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: was threatening not only your football career, but also there 531 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: was a chance that you might actually have your like 532 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: MP two, is that correct? Can you tell me about 533 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: your injury? And for people that that don't know about it, well, 534 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: at first when it happened, we thought it was just 535 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: you know Acolco, like your stand there kind of need 536 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: this location. But then we was at Utah and I 537 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: was just like in a lot of pain, caught like 538 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: a full body cramp on the ambalance of you know, 539 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: it was a It was a one of those kind 540 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: of shows. So they they instead of going back with 541 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: the team, is like, well, we'll just send them to 542 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: the hospital, get them on some pain tolerance, and they 543 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: kind of gave me some ivs. I was still in 544 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: pain and they started like shooting die. Basically I wasn't 545 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: getting the legs. So when they die when they were 546 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: shooting to die, basically like they couldn't see it when 547 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: they got to my knee and uh so I wasn't 548 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: getting no blood from the leg down. So that was 549 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: like first kind of scene. So the doctors came in, 550 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we got to see you in the 551 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: surgery and I was like well, so I'm like, well, 552 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not giving you y'all not doing surgery 553 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: on me. I don't know you doctors like these. I'm 554 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: with the Utah doctors. You know. They like you got 555 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: a surge on and I'm like, well, I'm not doing surgery. 556 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: They told me. Everybody else from Orgon flew back. So 557 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 1: I was like, well, they say that chard is supposed 558 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: to give medicine. So the guy was like okay, Well 559 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: he sent in the docors like well, you won't play 560 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: football again if you don't get the surgery right now. 561 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: We had to cut off your leg. So then I 562 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: was like, okay, we'll give me the surgery. The surgery down, 563 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: I guess I had that. Okay, So the surgery saved 564 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: your leg essentially the fact that you were able to 565 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: get it done. The surgery, they basically did a vein 566 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: bypass because I had slipped my artery and when I 567 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: slipped the artery, I was it messed up the vein. Basically, 568 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: to flow the veins so they basically bypassed, stitched it up, 569 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: and that was a surgery to Basically I had to 570 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: wait thirty days, So it was kind of like a 571 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: thirty day wait to see if the blow will actually 572 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: restore and that it's kind of hard to explay. So 573 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: basically I was waiting. I waited thirty days to see 574 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: if the vein bypass that they did would basically flow 575 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: kind of like the blood flowing back again through your life, 576 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: the blow flowing back through that way. So obviously it 577 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: did because you're playing football. But what was how long 578 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: were you out of football? Were you? I mean, I 579 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: would imagine you'd be pretty worried that you're not going 580 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: to be able to play again. So if it was November, 581 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: I had that I had another surgeon at the that 582 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: thirty days and I had to have another surgeries. I 583 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: had three surgeries in total, and then I did about 584 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: I read shirt and I saw I did about nineteen 585 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: nineteen months a rehab and I think the people at 586 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: Oregon was fabulous, The people at the Cleveland clinic was fabulous. 587 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: My mom, my fiance now who as I was waiting 588 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: back then, was bab blessed and just they kind of 589 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: kept all the I honestly didn't know the telling the story. 590 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: Now you know the seriousness of it, But when it happened, 591 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: I never knew the seriousness of it. Like other than 592 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: the doctor saying I gotta get the surgery and my 593 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: leg get cut off. I thought I was good after 594 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: I got the surgery. I didn't know that I was 595 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: them thirty days waiting. I didn't know that I was waiting. 596 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: I thought I was fine, Like my parents and everybody 597 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: else knew to see a verity of it, but they 598 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't tell me basically, So I mean I was just chilling. 599 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: They just like, oh, you just gotta get another surgery 600 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: thirty days later. They didn't tell me thing that I 601 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: was like basically, like the thirty days, I might have 602 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: had to get my leg chopped off, like if it 603 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: didn't work. I didn't know that until after it worked, 604 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, so you have a 605 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: great attitude because everyone just kept very very information from you, 606 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: which is I don't I don't think that's I don't 607 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: fault your family at all for doing that. Now that 608 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: you know that that's how serious it was, I imagine 609 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: you just have a different appreciation for playing that you 610 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: know you wouldn't have. Definitely grateful for the game. And honestly, 611 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: it was just like another challenge. And I love challenges. 612 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: I love the competitiveness. I love people saying that you 613 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: can't do something. Even with the injury, there is like, oh, 614 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to play, You're not 615 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: going to be able to do this, and you know, 616 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I just love overcovering those obstacles. And it 617 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: was just another challenge, honestly, And it was just fun 618 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: because we basically this this ton of story kind of 619 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: give you chills. When we started to rehab. There was 620 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: no rehab for it. Like when you get an ACL 621 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, this is what you do for this 622 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: is what you do for a shoulder. Like with mine. 623 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: We didn't know, like Zach Miller kind of had this 624 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: same injury. He called me and we talked, kind of talked. 625 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't a it wasn't a playbook for 626 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: this rehab. So it was just like day to day 627 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: like we'd come in and we kind of like wrote 628 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: the story on how to recover from it because you've 629 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: never seen it, you know. So I mean that was fun. 630 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: I actually live in Salt Lake now, and I went 631 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: there this summer because obviously with the COVID stuff and 632 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: with everything going on, I went to that doctor. I 633 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: went to that physical therapy this off season because we 634 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: was basically kind of not had it, didn't have an 635 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: off season, and the actors like, you're Parrel Brown, and 636 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: it's like, dude, you're like a superstar out here, Like 637 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: they still talk about your case. Oh man, everybody knew it. 638 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: I walked into like the Utah like hospital and everybody 639 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: knew me. Like that gives me chills. But that's really 640 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: scary too, that you were kind of the cutting edge 641 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: for them on an injury that they had not seen. 642 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: So they use it like a big case that they 643 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: were like the doctors but like the Jazz doctors knew me. 644 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: It was like kind of weird, but kind of funny. 645 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: Do they know? Do you have a name for what 646 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: it was that you had ground injury? All right? So 647 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 1: what about now I'm here? You are because you've overcome 648 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: all that and so much in your career and now 649 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: you're here with the Houston Texans and for fans that 650 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: don't really know you or or don't know much about 651 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: what you bring to the game. What do you bring 652 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: to the game. What do you think that you offer 653 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: that tight Ends group. I think I bring just a 654 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: lot of energy. I mean I kind of just can 655 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: do it all. When I was at Oregon, I was 656 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: using special teams. My coach was a special team coaching. 657 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: You couldn't start for him at tighten and if you 658 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: didn't play special teams, So I was I can play 659 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: on special teams. I was used as a blocker pass 660 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: catching at organ So I think I'm just a guy 661 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: that kind of do it, can do it all. Block 662 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: to give you some stuff in the past, game athletic 663 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: and run after the catch, can block. I think now 664 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: it's just kind of the coaches getting you to me now. 665 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: So just seeing my role grown week the week. The 666 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: run game has been we haven't gotten to the point 667 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: where we want to be in a run game, so 668 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: that's kind of been a thing that we need to 669 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: get off the ground. So, I mean, you just got 670 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: to be ready to be a pro and be able 671 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: to step up. He certainly is going to be a 672 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: guy that we watch and training camp Pharaoh Brown. The athleticism, 673 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: there's no doubt, the size, there's no doubt. It's just 674 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: a matter of can he amongst this group where there 675 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: is a third round draft pick in Kyllie Waring, another 676 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: draft pick in Brevin Jordan, another third round draft pick 677 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: at Jordan Nakins. Where does Farrell Brown fitting all that 678 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: I think he fits because he does some of the 679 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: other things that other guys don't do extremely well or 680 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: have not had the chance to do. Look, Jordan Nakins, 681 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: we will be physical, is just not the greatest at it. 682 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: You know, Brevin Jordan, who knows I think he is 683 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: a better run blocker than people think. And Kyllie Waring, 684 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: this guy who can't put his hand in ground and 685 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: being an inline guy. But I think Pharaoh is a 686 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: guy that gives him a physicality at the tight end position. 687 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: So really interesting to see what he does in training camp. 688 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: Trying to figure out that tight end position is going 689 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: to be very interesting come late August, after these three 690 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: preseason games are done. At training camp is over. Man, 691 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna be hard, but that's a good thing. That's 692 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: a great thing, and Farah Brown's gonna be part of that. 693 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: Nick's all right, Let's hear from Brandon Cooks next on 694 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: Texantal Access exantal access. So everybody, we got one final 695 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: segment this Monday edition of Texans All Access, a wet 696 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: Monday edition. Yikes, man, it's been bad. Hopefully you guys 697 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: have been safe and sound, but I am glad to 698 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: be with you on this Monday evening. Jump back in. 699 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: We heard from Pharaoh Brown the previous segments. Here from 700 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: another guy who joined the team in twenty twenty, and 701 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: that is Branding Cooks little deep slant with BC thirteen. 702 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: I like to look at people's social media accounts. I 703 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: feel like I get a good sense of them. And 704 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: someone told me that you are a big time photographer 705 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: and you have a whole separate account for your photography, 706 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: which was pretty impressive. All right, So it's Archer twelve eyes. Yeah, 707 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: that correct, all right? So you do landscape portrait photography. 708 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: When did all that begin? And how do you have 709 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: time to keep up? I turned photographer a little bit 710 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: and everything is collecting us now. But it started about 711 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: two years ago. My wife and I, well, first of all, 712 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: my mental we've been went on a big trip together 713 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: one time and Eric and I he he introduced me 714 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: to travel. He's always traveled the world. His whole life, 715 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: and we traveled without and have a true camera on me. 716 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: So I thought to myself, there's no way I can 717 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: be going to these other countries without capturing some of 718 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: these special moments. And so I really want to learn. 719 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: And I got introduced ALCA and from their own I 720 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: started to get mentored by some of their photographers and 721 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: I took in a ran with it. So that the 722 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: time comes really righting the offseason starts, because that's when 723 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: I can get my month to traveling in and then 724 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: my wife and I we travel a lot ever since, 725 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: so that's when they all picked up. All right, So 726 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: what's your what do you really what's your best pictures 727 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,479 Speaker 1: that you've taken so far? What's something that you really 728 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: want to try your hand out when it comes to photograh, 729 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: I think my favorite pictures so far it's probably one 730 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: of the shots uh in New Zealand that I took. 731 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: It's a it's a landscape shot for me. We love 732 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: New Zealand, we've been there multiple times. Um, so I 733 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: would probably say it has to do one of my 734 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: pictures that happened to use you. All right, So how 735 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: much have you invested in photography Like it's a lot 736 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: of lenses and a lot of it. Yeah, I know, 737 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: it's and it and it feels like the more money 738 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: you spend, the better your pictures turnout. That's what it 739 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: seemed like. But then sometimes you can go down as 740 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: rabbit hole. I think you need all these all these gadgets, 741 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: but in reality, you can get you one perfect lens. 742 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: But it's uh, it's not the cheapest I'll be let's 743 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: just say that. Yeah, no it's not. And I speak 744 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: from personal experience, but I did it didn't really make 745 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: my foot. I think lessons probably would have helped me 746 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: more than an expensive lens. Um. All right, you've got 747 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: some really cute dogs. I'm really into your dogs. You've 748 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: got three of them. I think we may have the 749 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: same breed of dog. What kind of dog do you have? 750 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 1: I got to grow the retriever into golden doodles. Okay, 751 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: I have a golden doodle too. Maybe that's why I'm 752 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: drawn to your dogs, no doubt. Okay, three dogs and 753 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: a baby. Are we going to add more dogs or 754 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: more men? For now? The next thing, we'll be adding 755 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: more babies, but no more dogs. I have one and 756 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm busy, so but I have one dog and three kids. 757 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: So okay, so you sweet, So I think yeah, either way, 758 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: it's it's not easy. Yeah, you've done a lot of 759 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: work in your past with single moms like in Ugne, 760 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: some really cool stuff building houses in Uganda. I can 761 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: only assume that comes from your own personal experience. Why 762 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: is this cause so near and dear to your eyes? 763 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: Exactly what you said, from my personal experience, my mom 764 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: raising me and my three brothers growing up. You know, 765 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: my dad passed away when I was young. Um, so 766 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: I always had a special place in my heart. You know, 767 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: my mom has always been my motivation and to see 768 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: everything that she did and grow up the way that 769 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: we did, it was a no brainer when I made it. 770 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 1: I'm always wanted to help out in that area just 771 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: because it has a special place in my heart. Are 772 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: you from Uganda? Is your family from you? Oh? No, 773 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: it was just something that I wanted to do through 774 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: my church that I was introduced to, and um something 775 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: that we my wife and I wanted to do. But no, 776 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm from California, So you have no accent for being Uganda. 777 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: Tremendous All right, Well, I don't want to put you 778 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: on the spot, but I kind of want to know. 779 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: I feel like whenever you make a big play on 780 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: the field, it's it's exciting, it's momentum shifting. It's been 781 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch you. But do you 782 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: have a favorite catch or favorite moment? Oh that's a 783 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: good question. No, not really, not really. I mean they've 784 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 1: all been fun. You put me on a spot right 785 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,760 Speaker 1: there that I was gonna say, I think a fifty 786 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: seven yard touchdown might be I'll take. I don't want 787 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: to put an answer. I don't want to give you 788 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: your answer. No, yeah, I haven't thought about that, so 789 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: I ain't gotten hing for you there. So hopefully that 790 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: moment is still you. That comes always a pleasure, Brandon, 791 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: Thank you. I've been a fan of Brandon Cooks for 792 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: a very very long time, and I thought he was 793 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: very good in twenty twenty, looking for him to be 794 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,479 Speaker 1: even better in twenty twenty one. All right, that's gonna 795 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: do it. A big thanks to Drew, to Deepe, the Pharaoh, Brown, 796 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks, all of you guys for listen. You are 797 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: the best. We'll see tomorrow and as always, go Texas.