Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me
Speaker 1: Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and
Speaker 1: TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transition to
Speaker 1: a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New
Speaker 1: Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Thomaz.
Speaker 1: I audition every rapper from Biggie Smalls to Tupac, and
Speaker 1: I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help
Speaker 1: transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from
Speaker 1: Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Yee from The
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons, to name a few. I
Speaker 1: also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel
Speaker 1: I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director,
Speaker 1: I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an
Speaker 1: acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in
Speaker 1: that room. Now I know. I know actors want to
Speaker 1: get the job. I get that, but being remembered by
Speaker 1: a casting director that is powerful. And now it's time
Speaker 1: for meditation of the day. I've found my place when
Speaker 1: I stopped looking for it, Anonymous. I was talking to
Speaker 1: a friend the other day, and he said to me,
Speaker 1: a lot of times when we say, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: going through something, he was like, no, you're not going
Speaker 1: through something, You're growing through something. And that really resonated
Speaker 1: with me because every time I feel like I'm in
Speaker 1: a place where there are some challenges or hurdles that
Speaker 1: you know, I need to jump over after that time
Speaker 1: is over, there's always this feeling of growth. There's always
Speaker 1: this feeling of like, I'm not going to think the
Speaker 1: way that I thought going through that again. Something about
Speaker 1: that time of rolling through it as opposed to going
Speaker 1: through it, it ignites my spirit. It rejuvenates me. So
Speaker 1: when I come back on the other side, I'm recharged
Speaker 1: because I want to say, like our guests said, you're
Speaker 1: line to Brinkley, that you know, things happen in life.
Speaker 1: We're still lifing. You know, our careers don't stop because
Speaker 1: of lifing. It all is combined, and it's up to
Speaker 1: us to be able to balance that and to be
Speaker 1: able to find some peace in that and alleviate those
Speaker 1: words stress. Right, So the next time you're going through something,
Speaker 1: know that you're really growing through something, and when you
Speaker 1: get to the other side of that, you're going to
Speaker 1: have some knowledge, some warp speed power, some intensified superpowers
Speaker 1: that are going to get you through and stay in
Speaker 1: the light until the next time life pops up. And
Speaker 1: life is life, and today I will live my life
Speaker 1: inclusive of everything that comes up. Before we get started,
Speaker 1: I'd like to remind everyone to look out for my
Speaker 1: new show, Inside the Black Box. I'll be co hosting
Speaker 1: with the great Joe Morton. Will be on Crackle Network
Speaker 1: real soon. I'll keep you posted. Welcome to the Spirited
Speaker 1: Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore and I feel a
Speaker 1: higher voltage today because Elsa Lathan. You all know Elsa
Speaker 1: as wonder woman on the podcast, Elsa has made an
Speaker 1: introduction to this woman who is our guest today that
Speaker 1: I am doing backflips over she has no idea. No
Speaker 1: backflips seriously, because I love life, I love about learning,
Speaker 1: I love connecting with spirits and energy and I feel
Speaker 1: already connected to you. You heard that, awe. I want
Speaker 1: you all to put your hands together and stand up
Speaker 1: for you. Landa breaking diversity and pens Ceo diversity and
Speaker 1: can CEO. Welcome to the show, Landa, Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for having me. Tracy, I really appreciate you. Thanks
Speaker 1: Elsa for the introduction, and hello everyone else. Landa Like
Speaker 1: I was so excited when Elsa you know, presented you
Speaker 1: to us and read about what you're doing, because I
Speaker 1: immediately felt like family, you're doing it. You know the
Speaker 1: European and you know, and the places that I've gone
Speaker 1: in my lifetime, I've been blessed to go and know
Speaker 1: that culturally there's so much richness. I encourage American actors
Speaker 1: to shoot in Africa, shoot in um, you know, Amsterdam, wherever.
Speaker 1: It's just not here right, there's just this and to
Speaker 1: see I want you to. I feel like I'm learning
Speaker 1: and I really feel like I'm I'm already walking away feeling.
Speaker 1: So when you feel like you're the only one that's
Speaker 1: going through it, and then you meet someone else and
Speaker 1: it's like, if we got this, we just needed to recharge. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I've recharged today with you allowed to tell us
Speaker 1: and you started this in twenty ten. Yes, what was
Speaker 1: the inspiration? Tell us your journey. I'll try to keep
Speaker 1: it brief. No, we want all the details here. Diversity
Speaker 1: and can The idea for the movement was impregnated in
Speaker 1: me after my first trip to the festival in two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine. Despite my language skills and my familiarity
Speaker 1: with the city, I felt like an outsider at the festival.
Speaker 1: Everything was so beautiful, the backdrop with the Mediterranean sea,
Speaker 1: all of that was fabulous. But I was threatened by
Speaker 1: a few friends and they said, don't come back without
Speaker 1: any footage, And so I had a video camera and
Speaker 1: I rolled up on all the people who looked like me, Hey,
Speaker 1: black people, what you're doing here? What's going on? You know,
Speaker 1: how do you get tickets? And literally they were in
Speaker 1: they had films in the short film corner, or they
Speaker 1: were in a program, a student program or an educational program.
Speaker 1: But none of them really knew shit, Like we didn't
Speaker 1: know how to get to the red carpet premiers, how
Speaker 1: to get on the red carpet. We didn't know how
Speaker 1: to get invitations for the party. One woman was like, well,
Speaker 1: I was just in the right place at the right time,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, as a full service
Speaker 1: marketing communications as an NBA, as a former member of
Speaker 1: Corporate America, worked in PR for Jaguar Land Rover North America,
Speaker 1: I'm not accustomed to being denied, so that was a problem.
Speaker 1: In and of itself, like how dare you deny me?
Speaker 1: Like I worked the top luxury brands in the world.
Speaker 1: So just the idea of having to start all over
Speaker 1: and be at the ground trying to work your way
Speaker 1: up in an industry or at a festival that's not
Speaker 1: traditionally focused on diversity and inclusion or Jeff or not
Speaker 1: even so much, not even let's not even talk about
Speaker 1: diversity inclusion. But that's not focus or the priority is
Speaker 1: industry personnel. So when I there, we no one, no
Speaker 1: one knew anything, but it's so beautiful. And as an undergraduate,
Speaker 1: I studied in Can. I like I'm a I was,
Speaker 1: I'm a former French teacher, and so I developed my
Speaker 1: language skills and Can there's a college called the College
Speaker 1: International Can. So I know the city, I know the language,
Speaker 1: and I still felt like an outsider. So the idea
Speaker 1: before I left, I said, well, maybe this is not
Speaker 1: the place for me, but nobody dictates where I go
Speaker 1: but me, And so that's when the idea was born.
Speaker 1: And throughout the year I toyed with several different ideas
Speaker 1: blacks and can diversity in Can, but there were not
Speaker 1: in my personal observation, there was enough black people to
Speaker 1: make a Blacks and Can if you will. That was
Speaker 1: that I'd have to. I'd have all the black people
Speaker 1: come to whatever it is that I was thinking about doing.
Speaker 1: And so eventually it became Diversity and Can and started
Speaker 1: out in twenty ten May as a cross cultural symposium
Speaker 1: for filmmakers, so a panel discussion, a couple of hours.
Speaker 1: There were about seven to fifteen people in attendance at
Speaker 1: the event a Jestic hotel. I'm not sure if you've
Speaker 1: ever to the festival or to CAN. It's like literally
Speaker 1: right across the street. Beautiful location, beautiful venue, not a
Speaker 1: lot of people. And what I did in order to
Speaker 1: get my guests my panelist, I stoked they can website
Speaker 1: and their parallel selections and when they their announcements, I
Speaker 1: used a power of the internet because social media was
Speaker 1: not quite as big, right, I reached out to the
Speaker 1: filmmakers and I actually ended up having Michael Row He's
Speaker 1: Australian filmmaker that lives in Mexico, winning the Golden Camera
Speaker 1: Award that year, Wow Fabragantia from Zio and Tracy Rector,
Speaker 1: a Native American filmmaker, was the moderator. So that's how
Speaker 1: it came to be one from the date that I
Speaker 1: attended diversity and can was born. So when this came
Speaker 1: to you and um, the idea about diversity in cans Um,
Speaker 1: what was the response. How was the initial response to
Speaker 1: did you have to pitch this idea and make it
Speaker 1: inclusive as a part of you know, I've never gone
Speaker 1: so a program like you said from the panel to
Speaker 1: hear What was the other side like in terms of
Speaker 1: receiving that. So the other side was I didn't have
Speaker 1: to pitch it really to well? So the okay, so
Speaker 1: let me let me go back that year in two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine when I attended, there was a gentleman there,
Speaker 1: Rashid Bahati, and he was a programmed at Freak three
Speaker 1: sixty and his was independent of the festival, and he
Speaker 1: had Danny Glover, and he had some film commissioner from
Speaker 1: Africa and and and and so there was something going on,
Speaker 1: some form of diversity going on. So when I had left,
Speaker 1: before I left and I had the idea, I reached
Speaker 1: out to Rashid first to like see if he wanted
Speaker 1: to join forces, wanted to do something together. So I
Speaker 1: forgot that part as far as the evolution is concerned
Speaker 1: because he was on the ground doing something. It didn't
Speaker 1: have a solid structure, but he was there doing something.
Speaker 1: So as far as the pitching, we're not we're not
Speaker 1: um a part of the festival. We operated intendedly Right
Speaker 1: Film Festival and there we operate rate you know, and
Speaker 1: then used that are outside but right and you know,
Speaker 1: I've registered for the festival. I've been registered for the
Speaker 1: festival for accredited you know accreditation. I've been accredited since
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, so I had access to all
Speaker 1: of the same people. We operate in the same environment,
Speaker 1: but we're not a part of the festival, so I
Speaker 1: didn't have to do any pitching. My pitching comes in
Speaker 1: when it's time to find participants. Right, originally it was
Speaker 1: just panel discussion. So in order to find the participants,
Speaker 1: I've had the first Palestinian feature filmmaker, Amerz She's a
Speaker 1: two time Candalum, she's a juror, she's been a past
Speaker 1: juror on the festival. I've had at Alric Brown, I've
Speaker 1: had Rob Morgan, Yolanda Ross, I've had people. So the
Speaker 1: pitching comes in trying to persuade people that diversity and
Speaker 1: can is big enough, important enough, has an impact you know,
Speaker 1: on the experience, on the cant experience. That's that's where
Speaker 1: the pitching comes in, attempting to find sponsors. You know,
Speaker 1: throughout my my experience, I've had I've had known people.
Speaker 1: I won't drop any names, but known people say well,
Speaker 1: who you know, who have you had? Um? Uh, you
Speaker 1: know what what celebrities or you know what people have
Speaker 1: you had? And because I didn't have major acts or
Speaker 1: major talent, they didn't want to do business with me.
Speaker 1: So the pitching comes in that form. I've had Lisa
Speaker 1: Cortez yes to participate in diversity in Can, John Witherspoon,
Speaker 1: Angela Robbery, his wife, um, and so just so you know,
Speaker 1: diversity and CAN is inclusive diversity. I just will happen
Speaker 1: to be a black woman. So some of my connections
Speaker 1: are you know, specific to race, but we kind of
Speaker 1: think it's about that, Yeah, because the point for me
Speaker 1: is not to go to Can, out of the country,
Speaker 1: out of America, out of your your your your geographic boundary,
Speaker 1: to come to Can to just socialize with the people
Speaker 1: who look like you, right, because clearly we don't have
Speaker 1: the green light power that we need to make things
Speaker 1: happen all the time, right, So the idea is to
Speaker 1: expand the network, right, begin to expand our audience, increase
Speaker 1: our audience, be exposed to other people. You know, may
Speaker 1: you know people who are on your like, on your level,
Speaker 1: like you can't be rudge those people. But the goal
Speaker 1: is to expand your audience, talk to people that you
Speaker 1: wouldn't normally talk to, and then you can bring them
Speaker 1: back to the fold. Let's not hang together, but I'm saying,
Speaker 1: let's go out right and bring them back right. And
Speaker 1: that's why we focus on inclusive diversity. So we're talking race, religion,
Speaker 1: sexual orientation, ability, sexism. Classes of all of our films,
Speaker 1: you know, touch on that and so, and that's in
Speaker 1: the short film, that's in the short Firm showcase. But
Speaker 1: that's what we do. So the pitching just comes with
Speaker 1: trying to validate the movement and validate myself as the
Speaker 1: leader of the movement. But I'm actually tired of that.
Speaker 1: I'm no longer attempting to validate myself. You either understand,
Speaker 1: you either understand, or you don't get on the bus,
Speaker 1: or you get off. You shoot, get off the pot.
Speaker 1: And that's that's all because I've been taking off for
Speaker 1: the past thirteen years, right, clearly, Not clearly, I mean
Speaker 1: I take off with the moneies that I have. Of course,
Speaker 1: you always need money and you always be but I've
Speaker 1: been able to take off a fourteen years. So clearly, Wow,
Speaker 1: the movement is enough, the fact far enough, and so
Speaker 1: you know then it's important. It's important. Like even you know,
Speaker 1: in working on Inside the Black Box, you know, there
Speaker 1: are daily challenges, there are hurdles that we're still you know,
Speaker 1: one of my friends, Warren Drummond, he's just very, very
Speaker 1: successful storyboard artist in this industry, some of the biggest
Speaker 1: films in this industry and says in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: we still have a long way to go. And I'm like, really,
Speaker 1: but I know that that is Factum. I applaud you
Speaker 1: for extending again beyond the US soil. There's life outside
Speaker 1: of here, you know, And I love that part because
Speaker 1: there's such a great educational aspect to what you're doing. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, again culturally, to go to different places and
Speaker 1: experience their culture, it's inspiring, you know, especially for creative beings.
Speaker 1: The question I have is that what what is it
Speaker 1: that inside of you that after fourteen years, you continue
Speaker 1: knowing you know that you may be up against resistance
Speaker 1: or maybe a sponsor needs you know, more information. I
Speaker 1: don't know, But what is it in you? Because this
Speaker 1: is this is your purpose? This? Can I just tell you?
Speaker 1: And I wasn't sure if I was going to say this,
Speaker 1: if I wasn't going to say this, But can I
Speaker 1: tell you? I'm just launching your twenty twenty two Virtual
Speaker 1: Diversity and can Short Film showcase today. Wow. We we
Speaker 1: executed on the round back in May. Because of COVID
Speaker 1: and the fact that we're building a movement, we had
Speaker 1: to change. We had to change the we had to
Speaker 1: shift the paradigm a little bit, right, We had to pivot.
Speaker 1: And so the competition showcase I plan to do online,
Speaker 1: but I'm just getting around to it. And I just said,
Speaker 1: life has been lifing. Yeah, yeah, and it doesn't even
Speaker 1: necessarily have to be in a bad way. But when
Speaker 1: I came in this past year, I was war out
Speaker 1: and then you know, I was dating, and I got
Speaker 1: COVID and my mom got COVID, and I was taking
Speaker 1: trips and just everything just life was really lifing. And
Speaker 1: so I have what keeps me going with Diversity and
Speaker 1: CANNIS when I have nothing else Iversity and Can. Wow,
Speaker 1: anybody asked me what I'm doing, What are you working on?
Speaker 1: I'm working on Diversity and Can. So it's almost like
Speaker 1: a pet, almost like having a dog. Dogs love you unconditionally.
Speaker 1: Diversity and Can is that unconditional love. So I think
Speaker 1: that's what keeps me going. And then the appreciation of
Speaker 1: some of the filmmakers we can make committers. We have
Speaker 1: people that you know, continue to promote us and to
Speaker 1: support us, and so that is what keeps me going.
Speaker 1: And I and then to just the evolution because we
Speaker 1: started from an afternoon symposium with seven to fifteen people
Speaker 1: and we countron to a full blown European and US
Speaker 1: program including the CAN Film Festival information Session which was
Speaker 1: sponsored by the w GA, the Short Film Showcase which
Speaker 1: happens in CAN, panel discussion, awards, reception, and then as
Speaker 1: a result of Diversity and Can, I've been able to
Speaker 1: program short at Tdjke's Magafest, his first and second international
Speaker 1: Faith and Family Film Festival. I've been able to program
Speaker 1: films at the BBC in London as well as the
Speaker 1: California African American Museum. So it's it's an evolution, and
Speaker 1: the evolution that keeps me going, Like next year, I'll
Speaker 1: celebrate fifteen years and so I have plans for continued evolution.
Speaker 1: I already used that word, but that's the plan. So
Speaker 1: I think that's also what keeps me going. It's excellent.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know the fact that you are creating
Speaker 1: a platform for this diversity and at one of if
Speaker 1: not the biggest, definitely blows out sundance and all of that,
Speaker 1: you know, and important film festivals and also to get
Speaker 1: you know, other eyes, because I grew up in the
Speaker 1: late sixties and watching the Academy Awards was not a
Speaker 1: thing in our household, and partly because my parents were like,
Speaker 1: there's no one on there that looks like us. We're
Speaker 1: never supported. So no, but we're not watching, right. And
Speaker 1: so I feel like, you know, especially in America, that
Speaker 1: the majority of the stories that are told or not
Speaker 1: stories that I can relate to. Culturally. I can relate
Speaker 1: to hunger, I can relate to pain. But you know,
Speaker 1: I've done this before where you know, you hit your
Speaker 1: head and I'm like, do you know what this is?
Speaker 1: And it's like, no, well, this is a black woman's braids.
Speaker 1: Or too tight her weik her week Like that's a
Speaker 1: universal gesture, right, yes, So culturally we're different, we are different,
Speaker 1: and these differences is like what you do find are
Speaker 1: the common denominators And really it's love. You know. I've
Speaker 1: spent time in Africa, I've spend time in Amsterdam, and
Speaker 1: it just that's what it boils down to, essentially, And
Speaker 1: so I just love how you are connecting this and
Speaker 1: the eyes that are because you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people live in a bubble and live in their own
Speaker 1: environment and existence, and then you know something different and
Speaker 1: it's like the first thing that enters is fear. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and that can block you, but you're fearless
Speaker 1: in your movement. I don't know. I don't know about that,
Speaker 1: but I think it was the love for languages and
Speaker 1: the fact that I had studied abroad three times in France,
Speaker 1: like twice in can and then once in Paris as
Speaker 1: a graduate student. So and I've been traveling alone. So
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of any of that. I think what
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of now, and it has me a little paralyzed,
Speaker 1: is the growth and the evolution. I have so many
Speaker 1: ideas that I'm stuck, and I think that's that's that's
Speaker 1: why I'm in the predicament. Life is lifing. But I'm
Speaker 1: also stuck because you know, I have so many ideas
Speaker 1: in me and so I'm working I'm working through that.
Speaker 1: I'm working through that now. But I want to I
Speaker 1: want to point out this we talk about. There are
Speaker 1: several points that I like to make. The first point,
Speaker 1: I'm not suggest I'm not suggesting that we come to
Speaker 1: CAN because and when I say we mean diverse individuals specifically,
Speaker 1: you know, people of color, black women. I'm not suggesting
Speaker 1: that we come to CAN because they're going to embrace us,
Speaker 1: right because in seventy five years of the festival, in
Speaker 1: their seventy five year history, they've only had one woman
Speaker 1: in competition at the festival, and that was Marty Dea
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. Wow. So I also want to point
Speaker 1: out that anything is possible. And I believe that I
Speaker 1: went to Clark Atlanta University, where the model is find
Speaker 1: a way or make one. So when I say this,
Speaker 1: I'm saying it just as a matter of fact and
Speaker 1: not as a matter of hope. You know, being able
Speaker 1: to hope and to dream, the likelihood that you're going
Speaker 1: to have a project in the Can Film Festival is
Speaker 1: slim to none. So I hear people say, well, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to go to Can or any festival until
Speaker 1: I have something in the program. You have something in
Speaker 1: a program. But there is a wealth of information that's
Speaker 1: happening on the ground and Can from For those who
Speaker 1: are interested in a global film career. Can has a
Speaker 1: film market. You meet people there that you may not
Speaker 1: have access to under normal circumstances, right, You meet your
Speaker 1: peers there. So it's three reasons that you want to go.
Speaker 1: You want to go to expand your network, expand your audience,
Speaker 1: and to turn about the business the global film business,
Speaker 1: talking to the sales agents, the distributors, finding out which
Speaker 1: territories are buying which kinds of films. So I'm not
Speaker 1: suggesting that we come just because we're going to be embraced. No,
Speaker 1: you can't. With your own opportunity. You come and you
Speaker 1: get what's best for you out of the experience, right,
Speaker 1: So I want That's one thing that I want to
Speaker 1: make clear. And then the other thing I want to
Speaker 1: make clear is that and how I feel is that
Speaker 1: your film career as a person of color, as a
Speaker 1: black person. It's similar to like the the times when
Speaker 1: like during the Harlem Renaissance and when when people were
Speaker 1: expattent out of the US, you know, from James Ballwin
Speaker 1: to Josephine Baker, like they were not love in America. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they took their talent to another place. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: that's kind of how I feel. I'm just saying, pick
Speaker 1: up your things and move because Europe is not necessarily
Speaker 1: any better in terms of diversity and inclusion than imagine.
Speaker 1: But you go where you are welcomed, or you go
Speaker 1: where you are celebrated, or you go where the opportunities
Speaker 1: are for growth and for development. So that's the point
Speaker 1: that I want to make. It may not be the
Speaker 1: cam Film Festival. Maybe it's Dubai, maybe it's best Facco,
Speaker 1: maybe it's the durban and sale market. It's another market,
Speaker 1: but there's always one way to accomplish a goal. And
Speaker 1: that's really the point of it all, to think outside
Speaker 1: of your boundaries, whether they're self imposed or whether they're geographic.
Speaker 1: There is life beyond that. So that's really like my point.
Speaker 1: At this point, I'm no longer interested in dismantling the patriarchy.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to teach old dolls new tricks they
Speaker 1: don't want to learn. I don't have energy for that anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to teach the new dogs new tricks, like
Speaker 1: this is what I think you need to do in
Speaker 1: terms of a global film career, just based on my
Speaker 1: little perspective. This is what I think you need to do,
Speaker 1: and if you're interested, I can show you. Well, this
Speaker 1: is what I want to say. First to your first point,
Speaker 1: what I love is the fact that it's diversity that
Speaker 1: you are introducing to people who may not even think about.
Speaker 1: Like I said, you know, I encourage actors just don't
Speaker 1: think of the United States of America, you know, And
Speaker 1: so just giving people that opportunity and that experience. And
Speaker 1: also I feel like you are the structure because you
Speaker 1: have this experience. You know where I should go, You
Speaker 1: know who I should you know where I need to
Speaker 1: be to have these networkings and all of these things.
Speaker 1: And so that plays a crucial part in the whole
Speaker 1: overall experience. And I feel like when you get to
Speaker 1: the point where, yes, it is tiring to you know,
Speaker 1: have to, it's not even about correcting, because I don't
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, with my show I'm correcting any
Speaker 1: type of you know, stereotypical image or anything like that.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, you just for me personally, I
Speaker 1: feel like we've we've come so far, however, really, you know,
Speaker 1: have we really or is it just the time changing
Speaker 1: and then we acclimate? I don't know, but there is
Speaker 1: a fight. I do know there's a movement. I do
Speaker 1: know there's a fight, and it's dispartning for me and
Speaker 1: my whole life. I never felt loved by this country
Speaker 1: until Black Lives Matters and they had a composite similar
Speaker 1: to this where on CNN UK, Ireland all these countries walking,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, people outside of America care
Speaker 1: about black people. Oh wow, So there is a fight. However,
Speaker 1: I do love the fearlessness in you because I just
Speaker 1: sat in this on Monday. I used to say, because
Speaker 1: I came to New York when I was twenty one
Speaker 1: and I had two hundred dollars and I had a
Speaker 1: one way ticket and a Wolfsworth trunk. That's dating. Oh,
Speaker 1: and I was like new York right. And I always
Speaker 1: used to think when people say, you know, you're not
Speaker 1: from here or are you from here? And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, no, I'm not from here. I'm from San Francisco.
Speaker 1: But my energy was like, you know, anybody can come
Speaker 1: three thousand miles away and no two people and started life.
Speaker 1: That's was my frame of mind, right. No. I sat
Speaker 1: in that on Monday. No no, no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: no no. And you say it like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I travel alone. I travel so long. I'm comfortable with that.
Speaker 1: This is me when Amsterdam called, can I get another
Speaker 1: ticket for my extent because I can't travel alone? Like,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Seventeen hours on a plane and
Speaker 1: then I've never been amster down. So the fact that
Speaker 1: you did you travel alone and that comfort. It's not
Speaker 1: USA alone, you guys, this is international alone. That said something.
Speaker 1: And you know, as an as an acting teacher, coach,
Speaker 1: I would say to you know, an actor, this character,
Speaker 1: these characteristics scream volumes about who you are. It's not
Speaker 1: the words. So I just wanted to add that little
Speaker 1: fearlessness in there because I'm like, no, because not everybody
Speaker 1: can get on a plane. I'm like, yeah, well listen,
Speaker 1: i haven't been to the continent as yet, but just
Speaker 1: this past year, I've been to can I was invited
Speaker 1: to the Locarno from festival in Switzerland. Listen and they
Speaker 1: they they invited me, so they covered my housing and
Speaker 1: my file registration. But I had to use I had
Speaker 1: to get my had to get my flight there, so
Speaker 1: I used the buddy pass. Right. Wow, nice is that
Speaker 1: I used the buddy pass. And I'm telling you this
Speaker 1: story just because of how I just had to get
Speaker 1: shit done. I used the buddy pass. And before I
Speaker 1: left out of JFK, the woman said to me, they're
Speaker 1: having the problems getting back, like people are not being
Speaker 1: able to get back. And she said like, are you
Speaker 1: sure you want to go? This is what the woman
Speaker 1: said to me. And I'm like, yeah, like I worry
Speaker 1: about getting back when when the time comes. But she
Speaker 1: brought this to my attention. And then I talked to
Speaker 1: my cousin who gave me the buddy pass, and she
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, cousin, Um, you know the flights are
Speaker 1: you know they're blocking flights, people can't get back, et cetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: I went to Switzerland. I flew into Milan on first class,
Speaker 1: so it was awesome, first class across trans Atlantic. Well,
Speaker 1: I couldn't get back. I had to fly to I
Speaker 1: had it I had to do my research, right, but
Speaker 1: they why to Spain, buy a different ticket, fly to
Speaker 1: Spain in order to get out, because then the tickets
Speaker 1: were like two thousand and fifteen hundred and I've already
Speaker 1: paid enough. But talking about being alone, and then I
Speaker 1: slept in that it was it didn't really sleep. I
Speaker 1: was in that airport overnight, right, But I didn't go
Speaker 1: to sleep, I said, because I will not get gout
Speaker 1: in this airport. I walked around, took pictures of all
Speaker 1: the people who were sleep. Wow. But I say that
Speaker 1: to say I'm always on some kind of adventure on
Speaker 1: the international skies and the seas, Like I'm always doing something.
Speaker 1: So it just goes to my character. You know, my
Speaker 1: first cripple bro I was twenty one, So it's just
Speaker 1: it's just in me. So if it may feel like
Speaker 1: in eight to me, just be doing it. But you know,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to share that. But I've been to
Speaker 1: the Look and I just came back from Berlin last
Speaker 1: month because they were having a diversity conversation that I
Speaker 1: needed to be in on and so I was invited to.
Speaker 1: So I love it because the doors that you've opened
Speaker 1: that weren't created if you know you didn't have that experience.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like when you see a void, you
Speaker 1: feel it, and you feel that and continue to feel it.
Speaker 1: In terms of UM, do you have US When you
Speaker 1: talk about sponsors, do you have US sponsors? Do you
Speaker 1: have global sponsors? Both? So I had Right now, I
Speaker 1: have one sponsor and that is Viola Davis's JUV Productions. Wonderful.
Speaker 1: They've been sponsoring for the last four years or so.
Speaker 1: I don't have a personal relationship with Viola Davis. I
Speaker 1: do have a relationship with her husband, Julius Tennan and Hunt.
Speaker 1: They're both joys to work with. Dearly. I just posted
Speaker 1: a video today of him, you know, saying Yolane have
Speaker 1: been doing this before. It was a hashtag. UM. So
Speaker 1: they are my they are my sponsor. I have prize sponsors.
Speaker 1: So um. Tracy Christian she provides Oh my god, Tracy
Speaker 1: is one of my best friends. I've known Tracy since
Speaker 1: Peter Strain and associates. Oh wow, yeah, so she provides
Speaker 1: pride sponsorship. She talks to my my filmmakers. Um. Tiffany
Speaker 1: Smith from CBS Entertainment Diversity, m Whitney Davis from Anthony
Speaker 1: Hemingway Productions, Kyle Harry Motto. He's on CSI Los Angeles right. Um,
Speaker 1: so I have folks who are who pub Anthony Hemmingwad
Speaker 1: by the way him sense oz oh wow wow oz
Speaker 1: oh wow. Yeah. So I know Whitney from when she
Speaker 1: was at CBS and she's now there. So I have
Speaker 1: a lot of support for en Kind services. I'm now
Speaker 1: actually going into um a relationship, interning relationship with the
Speaker 1: British Film Institute to do another celebration of Black women
Speaker 1: in Film on the and this year. Last year it
Speaker 1: was sponsored by a Shiryl Williamson of the Schryl Pollote
Speaker 1: Williamson from the Williamson Media Group. She sponsored it last year.
Speaker 1: So I had one off sponsors um Angela Northington when
Speaker 1: she Urban Movie Channel. She was my first corporate sponsor
Speaker 1: and that was the result of a relationship with Michelle
Speaker 1: Protho on Twitter side. It's it's it's ever evolving. But
Speaker 1: the biggest sponsor of them all is the filmmakers. Yes,
Speaker 1: sponsor the movement. It is fees that I that I
Speaker 1: that I take off every single year. And because I
Speaker 1: do have corporate experience and I do plan events and
Speaker 1: I know what a good event looks like. We may
Speaker 1: have a few issues, but because I know how it works,
Speaker 1: I'm able to do the best I can with what
Speaker 1: I have. Absolutely produce the best event that I can
Speaker 1: with the moneys that I have. So I have to
Speaker 1: give a big shout out to all of those people,
Speaker 1: but also to the filmmakers who continually support me since
Speaker 1: the inception of the short film Showcase, which was in
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. So from twenty ten to twenty twelve, I
Speaker 1: was paying for the event myself with my own money
Speaker 1: and then well, ma'am, you don't have no more money,
Speaker 1: so don't do And so God, if this is for me,
Speaker 1: you need to make away absolutely, and he did so. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So well, I just wanted to say that because we
Speaker 1: here at the Spirited Actor Podcast, we totally support you
Speaker 1: in any way and also, you know, as we get
Speaker 1: near the event, it would be great to have you
Speaker 1: come back on and talk about it again. But however,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm marinating now how we can support you.
Speaker 1: So we're definitely going to remain in touch and you
Speaker 1: are part of the Spirited Actor Podcast family. Thank you.
Speaker 1: The time flew by, I still had questions, but we
Speaker 1: are at the end of the interview. Landa, I have
Speaker 1: two spirited actors who are eager to ask you some questions.
Speaker 1: Well they're asking a question in peace. Else is going
Speaker 1: to come on and introduce the spirit actor alumni. Elsa. Yes,
Speaker 1: wonderful interview as always. Thank you Tracy, thank you Yolanda.
Speaker 1: So our colors today, our audience. Today we have miss
Speaker 1: Jelisa Capri. You can ask you a question. First. First
Speaker 1: of all, I wanted to say thank you for what
Speaker 1: you're doing and thank you for the diversity, Like that's
Speaker 1: really important to not feel alone in this business as
Speaker 1: we do sometimes through what we do. But I did
Speaker 1: want to ask about, like, as an artist, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to create my own work, how do you navigate
Speaker 1: the festival circuit? Like it just feels like this overwhelming experience.
Speaker 1: Like it's like you go through the process, you finally
Speaker 1: get the film done, you went through all those changes.
Speaker 1: It's like I have a project that's like sitting on
Speaker 1: my desk and I'm like, film freeway is really hard.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know what festivals, so I just
Speaker 1: want to get your input and take on that with
Speaker 1: like projects that take things that look with people that
Speaker 1: look like me. Yeah, okay, So it's really all about then,
Speaker 1: thank you for your kind words. It's really all about
Speaker 1: your audience. There's an audience for your project. You really
Speaker 1: just have to do the research. Figure out who welcome
Speaker 1: stories like your story, Which festivals, look at their past,
Speaker 1: you know, their their past official selections, see who they've
Speaker 1: accepted in the past. So, for instance, if you're talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, horror diversity in Canadad, we don't traditionally use horror,
Speaker 1: but it's not limited to any specific genre. But you
Speaker 1: need to look at your prospects. So that's the first thing.
Speaker 1: Like maybe you have a location in mind. Oh, well
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here, or I want to stay close,
Speaker 1: or I want to stay you know, local to my
Speaker 1: home so I can get to the festivals. Then that's
Speaker 1: your audience. Oh I want one that's specific to LGBTQ.
Speaker 1: Then you're looking for that, Oh I want ones that
Speaker 1: are specific to black people. Right, So that's how you
Speaker 1: It's really about the research. And I see a lot
Speaker 1: of filmmakers who say, you know, oh I want OSCAR
Speaker 1: qualifying festivals. Oh I want you know, this kind of festival.
Speaker 1: You have to take an honest look at your work
Speaker 1: and see where where it stands, because people are watching you.
Speaker 1: Once you start submitting your work to different organizations. You know,
Speaker 1: we're watching, right, and so we see the quality of
Speaker 1: the work that's coming through, and we remember that and
Speaker 1: some things. Your your project is your calling card, it's
Speaker 1: your entry. So I would say, just research the your
Speaker 1: subject matter and see which which festivals focus on those,
Speaker 1: but then also take an honest look at your work
Speaker 1: and see where it may fit. Thank you very much,
Speaker 1: and I will definitely make sure that I make it
Speaker 1: down to your festival. Something very good, Lord and welcome.
Speaker 1: All right, great question. Who do we have next? Thank you, Ja, Lisa.
Speaker 1: Up next we have mister g Rodney questions how you Linda?
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm fine? Thank you? What's your name again? Gee? Right? Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: First of all, I commend you, man, I mean just
Speaker 1: just just the canacity to take on what you're taking
Speaker 1: on is like, is really impressive, really impressive. Man. I
Speaker 1: commend you on that. Um. The question I have is one,
Speaker 1: you know, how how can we as artists here in
Speaker 1: the US support what you're doing? And second, I guess
Speaker 1: the second part of that question is how well does
Speaker 1: that international audience receive UM. I guess us as Americans,
Speaker 1: you know, coming over to to experience UM the industry
Speaker 1: on the international level, Like is there a synergism between
Speaker 1: synergy between what they're doing there and us as talent
Speaker 1: um wanting to come over and experience that. So there's
Speaker 1: always synergy. You just have to find your tribe. There's always, always,
Speaker 1: always synergy. And the purpose of it is to see
Speaker 1: people are not always going to welcome you. They're not there,
Speaker 1: they may not even want to explore the synergy. But
Speaker 1: if you keep showing up and you keep networking, and
Speaker 1: you keep meeting different people, it's inevitable. So it's not
Speaker 1: necessarily an overnight process. But you come in and you know,
Speaker 1: people like Americans like they do. They do love us,
Speaker 1: you know in other countries and in other places. So
Speaker 1: that's the least of your worries. But you just need
Speaker 1: to get in there, find your tribe and see there's
Speaker 1: always synergy. People may not be willing to always explore it,
Speaker 1: but you find your tribe and that's where the synergy begins.
Speaker 1: So diversity and can we provide a platform, an intimate
Speaker 1: platform for people from everywhere. We have short films from
Speaker 1: Kazakhstan and from Poland, and from Ghana, and from Canada
Speaker 1: and from the US, the UK, uh China. So there's
Speaker 1: a mix of people and connections that you can make.
Speaker 1: So if you find your tribe, or if you get
Speaker 1: in with a group where that's the purpose, then it's
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a it's not like a breeze,
Speaker 1: but it's it's easy. It's easy to talk about it
Speaker 1: because you are working together towards a similar goal. And
Speaker 1: I always give Matthew Knowles credit for saying that like
Speaker 1: network where you are like you always want to network up,
Speaker 1: but but you're your your your core group. They are next,
Speaker 1: they have next. So the pore relationships you begin to
Speaker 1: foster now, the better the chances, the more synergy. Oh
Speaker 1: I know this person, Oh you're doing this, I know
Speaker 1: this person. I facilitated a whole short film um through
Speaker 1: a person that I met in Atlanta during something and
Speaker 1: then my friend Jordan in the UK, who I met
Speaker 1: during can they he needed she had a script, he
Speaker 1: wanted to produce it. They work together and now they
Speaker 1: have a short film that's on the festival circuit. They've
Speaker 1: never met. Wow, they've never met. So and it's again
Speaker 1: it's not overnight, but just the possibilities are there, so
Speaker 1: you know. And then as the second question or well
Speaker 1: really the first question answered. Second is as far as
Speaker 1: supporting me, just following on social media, you know, sharing
Speaker 1: information if you have a short film, submitting your short film,
Speaker 1: and I will have a submission discount for the Spirit actors.
Speaker 1: Spirited actors, if you know, we only have about two Well,
Speaker 1: so by the time this air is we only have
Speaker 1: a few days left. But for now we'll have about
Speaker 1: fifteen days or so available and I will forward the
Speaker 1: discount to ELSA the discount code that you can use
Speaker 1: you And do you do you know the Urban World
Speaker 1: Film Festival here in the York. Yes, I will. Um
Speaker 1: Charise m who is now our new head because um,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Gabrielle Um she has she moved out
Speaker 1: to La So this is something that needs to happen.
Speaker 1: I need to. I'm gonna put us together, We're gonna
Speaker 1: have we're gonna have a girl chat and Urban World.
Speaker 1: UM extend support because I agree with Julisa and Rodney
Speaker 1: that this is outstanding work that you're doing. And This
Speaker 1: makes me feel so good, like I'm not alone because
Speaker 1: sometimes and thank god, I grew up in San Francisco, California,
Speaker 1: and I know how to walk up heels because there
Speaker 1: are heels and valleys. Yes, ma'am, absolutely absolutely, and I
Speaker 1: say it. As long as the filmmakers are supporting, then
Speaker 1: we have a movement. Once the filmmakers aren't supporting, we
Speaker 1: have no movement. That's it. That's all. Okay, Well, that's
Speaker 1: how that's why Julisa is submitting. You answered our question
Speaker 1: moving forward and seeing so I want y'all to stand up.
Speaker 1: I want to you guys to put your hands together
Speaker 1: for Yolanda Brinkley. And we are talking to the CEO
Speaker 1: of Diversity in Cans. Yes. Yes, And when we come back,
Speaker 1: you guys, you're so blessed she's going to hang out
Speaker 1: with us. We are going to have class in session
Speaker 1: where Yolanda will she'll be able to give Rodney and
Speaker 1: Jelisa some feedback. So stay tuned The Spirited Actor Podcast
Speaker 1: with Me Tracy Moore. Welcome back to the Spirited Actor
Speaker 1: Podcast with me Tracy Moore, And you are so blessed.
Speaker 1: Yolanda Brinkley is still with us. From diversity in cans.
Speaker 1: So much information we learned today, you guys, and we
Speaker 1: are one million in supporting her in all of her endeavors.
Speaker 1: Just a really, really beautiful spirit. I'm so excited. Thank you, Elsa. Okay,
Speaker 1: so now we have the oppertute. Oh yes, can that
Speaker 1: is me? Thank you. So now we're moving into class
Speaker 1: in session and we are going to have two of
Speaker 1: our spirit actor alumni, which else is going to introduce?
Speaker 1: And then we're going to do a scene for Yulanda. Yes.
Speaker 1: Today for our class in session, we have the equally
Speaker 1: intelligent question astors and talented actors missus Alisa Capri and
Speaker 1: g Rodney Owens, who will perform a short scene for you. Excellent,
Speaker 1: all right, so are you guys ready? Yes, okay, great.
Speaker 1: The title is Glass Ceiling, written by Rechi Little Pitman.
Speaker 1: Interior office building, corner office Evening a large all glass
Speaker 1: corner office on a rainy day, there is a large,
Speaker 1: messy brown desk near the window overlooking the city. Brian,
Speaker 1: an older balding man with glasses, sits at the desk
Speaker 1: and looks up. Startled, eyes widened as he looks up.
Speaker 1: Who whoa, whoa? Whoa whoa Jay? What's going on? Je
Speaker 1: taw skinny woman with long dark hair walks in, distraught
Speaker 1: with a gun aimed at Brian in one hand and
Speaker 1: has a piece of paper in the other. Jay, really
Speaker 1: shut up, Brian. Janine slowly steps closer to Brian and
Speaker 1: unfolds the paper in her hand. You think he's slip.
Speaker 1: Brian squints at the paper, then relaxes his face as
Speaker 1: when he recognizes the document. Nink. Come on, let me explain. Please?
Speaker 1: What the fuck is they to say? Brian? Huh? You
Speaker 1: cut me at a half a million dollars? Payout? Janice
Speaker 1: takes another step closer and shakes the paper. They look,
Speaker 1: it wasn't my fault, Okay, Roger wanted me to make it. Roger,
Speaker 1: are you serious? Roger? It's your fucking lap dog. It
Speaker 1: does what you want. Brian, that waits since college. Please
Speaker 1: come on, this is ridiculous. Believe this. I thought I
Speaker 1: was there for You's there that cancer and when he
Speaker 1: came back again and again and you do this to me.
Speaker 1: Tears fall down Janice's face. Brian attempts to stand up,
Speaker 1: and Janice moved swiftly shifts to anger. Janice Mousey even
Speaker 1: closer to Brian and takes the safety off the gun.
Speaker 1: Brian grits his teeth and then stands up behind the desk.
Speaker 1: You know what you need. You're right, it was me,
Speaker 1: damn it. You've been acting the saying these last few months,
Speaker 1: coming in late, falling to sleep after lunch, taking a
Speaker 1: vacation every other week. Yeah, okay, okay. Oh no, I'm
Speaker 1: not done, Janny. You never come over for Sunday dinner anymore.
Speaker 1: Synthony thinks you hate us. You've been unstable for the
Speaker 1: for the last month. So I'm sorry if if I
Speaker 1: didn't want your little episode to ruin the biggest day
Speaker 1: of my life. The tears still streaming, she stares at Brian,
Speaker 1: then begins to smile slightly. Oh oh, it's funny now.
Speaker 1: Janice slowly takes off her wig to show her balding head.
Speaker 1: Brian gasped and lowers his head in clarity. Oh shit.
Speaker 1: Brian slowly walks towards Janice from around on the desk
Speaker 1: as Janice lowers the gun and begins to sob again. No,
Speaker 1: how long has it been like nos three months ago? Yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, don't do this. Janice backs up to the
Speaker 1: wall and slides down to a seat of position. Then
Speaker 1: she drops the gun on the floor. Brian walks over
Speaker 1: and sits next her on the floor. Well least, at
Speaker 1: least you don't look too bad, bald Jannis looks at
Speaker 1: Brian and sucks her teeth in chuckles. I mean it,
Speaker 1: come on, Cynthia has this little little pee head. You
Speaker 1: can actually pull it off. Bran and Janice laughs, and
Speaker 1: Janice turns to Brian and her eyes fall to the ground,
Speaker 1: to the floor. Hey, look at me, what's wrong? Nothing?
Speaker 1: Especial joke was so funny. My cancer went away. They
Speaker 1: both laughed again. Brian takes Dan his hand as there's
Speaker 1: smiles fade. Hey, don't worry about that, all right, you
Speaker 1: still got your job, and I'm gonna take care of
Speaker 1: every medical bill you got. All right, guys, folks, They
Speaker 1: both smiling, then hug fade to black fan. All right,
Speaker 1: that's Johnny, guys. A right, that's a beautiful scene. Great scene, okay, Landa,
Speaker 1: you can give them some words. Yeah, so, great job, guys,
Speaker 1: great job. At Lisa, I felt the um you moving
Speaker 1: into character way before she said action, So I felt
Speaker 1: that I didn't know whether it was going to be
Speaker 1: sexy because that showed her and that little bit of cleavance.
Speaker 1: So I wasn't sure where we were going with that,
Speaker 1: but I felt that the shoulder was giving me life.
Speaker 1: I think in terms of the performance and the gun
Speaker 1: and the crying, there's a there's a difference between showing
Speaker 1: and telling, and so I was just toned down the
Speaker 1: showing a little bit for that. But I think you
Speaker 1: did an excellent job. Gee, Rodney. I think that the
Speaker 1: intensity in the beginning was missing, like she had a
Speaker 1: gun on you. I didn't feel like you were threatened,
Speaker 1: and maybe because you know or you knew she wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna do it, so maybe more of a shock then
Speaker 1: been scared then fear right. So maybe that was it.
Speaker 1: But you moved nicely into the to the scene as
Speaker 1: you got seemed like as you got more comfortable, you
Speaker 1: loosened up more and I was able to see the
Speaker 1: skills kind of come through. I agree. Wow, that was beautiful.
Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. I want you again to
Speaker 1: introduce our new friend to the Spirited Actor podcast Open
Speaker 1: Door Gotta Come Back. Have more questions for you once again,
Speaker 1: stand up, please put your hands together for Yland to
Speaker 1: Brinkley Diversity and can thank you so much. Thanks for
Speaker 1: having me, Tracy, was a pleasure. Keep marching up the
Speaker 1: hill because it's going to get greater later. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to come down that you all right, thank you
Speaker 1: and we'll be back on the Spirited Actor podcast with
Speaker 1: me Tracy Moore and I'm going to give you a
Speaker 1: love and now it's time to give love. Yesterday was
Speaker 1: probably definitely one of the most pivotal moments in my
Speaker 1: life and one of the best times in my life.
Speaker 1: And Joe and I Joe Morton, my co host with
Speaker 1: Inside the black Box on crack On TV. You can
Speaker 1: download the app for free. We were blessed to have
Speaker 1: an interview on the Sherry Shepherd Show, and the night
Speaker 1: before the show, I felt myself sitting in gratitude. I
Speaker 1: mean just going from like never giving up on the idea,
Speaker 1: all the things that you led me to this point,
Speaker 1: and most importantly, you know, I felt like Joe and
Speaker 1: I were prepared. I felt like these last two seasons
Speaker 1: of press and us having a chance to talk about
Speaker 1: and talk to audiences and people about the show, that
Speaker 1: we were prepared for that moment. Yesterday, and to be
Speaker 1: on that stage and to be able to have our platform,
Speaker 1: to be able to talk about the show and talk
Speaker 1: about what the show is about. It was beyond overwhelming.
Speaker 1: But what touched my heart and my soul the most
Speaker 1: was to see my son Miles and my daughter Radiance
Speaker 1: sitting in the audience and just be mean, be mean
Speaker 1: and really really seeing through them for the first time
Speaker 1: who I am in terms of my mission, my purpose,
Speaker 1: continuing to walk up those skills San Francisco prepare me
Speaker 1: for that. So I just want to say to you,
Speaker 1: when things don't make sense, trust and know that in time,
Speaker 1: all the dots are going to connect. All of them
Speaker 1: are going to connect, all the circles are going to
Speaker 1: come full. Everything that happens for a reason will continue
Speaker 1: to reveal itself to you. Stay grounded, stay in your truth,
Speaker 1: and stay in your belief. Don't forget to look out
Speaker 1: for us. On our new show, Inside the Black Box.
Speaker 1: My co host will be Joe the Legend Morton. It's
Speaker 1: going to be The Spirited Actor Podcast on Steroids. We'll
Speaker 1: be streaming on the Crackle network. I'll keep you posted.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on The Spirited Actor Podcast.
Speaker 1: With me, Tracy Moore. I look forward to our next
Speaker 1: Spirited podcast. Thank you,