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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by calllighta health.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to a Friday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Casker with you. Glad to have you

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Speaker 3: with us, and it is Friday.

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Speaker 2: I just looked at the forecast Steve for Sunday's game.

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Speaker 2: High of forty four, partly sunny.

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Speaker 1: So well, that's good.

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Speaker 3: We could be a lot worse than that in light

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Speaker 3: of what we're seeing today.

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Speaker 1: As long as it's not like pouring like it is today.

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Speaker 1: You can't live like pouring, pouring, it's like fire hosing

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Speaker 1: coming in.

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Speaker 2: It says, low of thirty three, so as we know,

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Speaker 2: there'll probably be around forty four at kickoff, but then

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Speaker 2: the temperature will drop as the sun will be down

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Speaker 2: in an hour.

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Speaker 3: Lights will be on before kickoff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my gosh.

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Speaker 2: I dread this time of year when the sun is

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Speaker 2: down at like five o'clock. You walk out of work

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Speaker 2: and you're like, oh my gosh, it's dark already.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, can't stand it.

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Speaker 2: Oh just gotta get to December twenty first, and then

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Speaker 2: we start going back up again the winter's solstice, as

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Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, I look forward to that yeah, only

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Speaker 2: only about a five weeks to go before the days.

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Speaker 3: Start getting longer again.

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Speaker 2: As we're getting to the point, you're you got daughter

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Speaker 2: up in elasti's gotta have like, what four hours of

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Speaker 2: daylight about?

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Speaker 3: I don't think I could do it.

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Speaker 1: They're not north of the Arctic Circle, they get I

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Speaker 1: think it gets light from it like it it gets

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Speaker 1: light at eleven am, gets dark in Anchorage. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: like three thirty or four. Oh my, yeah, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: do it. And then at the other summer summertimes, great summertime. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you'll be out on the deck twenty hours eleven thirty

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Speaker 1: at night and there's blue sky.

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Speaker 3: Who Yeah, that's the kind of living I could do.

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Speaker 3: But four hours, no way, Jose.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not signing up for that. It's they

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Speaker 1: talk about light deprivation to me, Lord, yeah, to me,

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Speaker 1: it's soul crushing, so crushing me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: What is not soul crushing is the opportunity for you

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Speaker 2: to fire off a question at us because it is

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Speaker 2: obl Friday fan mail peg where we answer your most

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Speaker 2: pressing bills and NFL questions here on the show from

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Speaker 2: one to three. So happy to do that for you today,

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Speaker 2: Any question you have on the bills, the league, get large,

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Speaker 2: anything going on, what could happen with Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 2: the Bengals potentially or allegedly hiding a wrist injury that

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow had going into the game that was obviously

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Speaker 2: exacerbated once he started playing, because Steve not for nothing,

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Speaker 2: he left that game pretty early, Yes, pretty early.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was a throw. He grabs his wrist immediately.

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Speaker 1: You know, he said. And one of that he told

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Speaker 1: one of the Ravens Raven players, Queen, that he heard

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Speaker 1: a pop and you can see, I mean it was

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Speaker 1: like painfully obvious.

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Speaker 3: There's no contact there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just threw it and then comes back the

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Speaker 1: next play and or goes off the field because that

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Speaker 1: was I think a third down play right there, and

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Speaker 1: then walks off the field, tries to throw one on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines and you could tell.

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Speaker 3: Me he fell out of his hand.

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Speaker 1: He was like, nah, there's no way, I'm done, and

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Speaker 1: he knew it. It's interesting too, because whatever the injury is,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's gonna obviously the time frame is gonna

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Speaker 1: I hate to say it like that. If it's busted bone,

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Speaker 1: it's actually better. Yeah, if they knit together, heel up

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Speaker 1: and you know, let's pressto change O. Let's go. If

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Speaker 1: it's a ligament. Brother ain't good, right, He's not good.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We'll probably find out at some point what the prognosis

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Speaker 3: Number one. Number two.

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Speaker 2: The league has begun an investigation to see if the

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Speaker 2: Bengals hid the injury because he was not on the

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Speaker 2: injury report this week. And I guess there was also

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Speaker 2: a tweet from the Bengals that was subsequently deleted.

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Speaker 1: He got off the bus with some sort of contraption

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Speaker 1: on that wrist.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: You know, well that to me though, that right there,

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what comes of that. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: can't blame the team. They don't know because she's not

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Speaker 2: an injury report. They're just filming the players coming into

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Speaker 1: The media people to somebody on that team new because

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Speaker 1: they gave him the brace. The problem is and and

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Speaker 1: they may not be culpable in any way because it

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Speaker 1: could have happened yesterday. But after all the you know,

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Speaker 1: injury reports to come.

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Speaker 3: Out true.

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Speaker 1: And man, oh man, but it almost I mean we

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Speaker 1: were talking about this. So the Bills are chasing all

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Speaker 1: these teams now right, Yeah, and you look at the

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Speaker 1: to see Baltimore plow through it, go ahead and win

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Speaker 1: their division. Just keep on winning, particularly when you're playing

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Speaker 1: particularly when you're playing you know, at Cincinnati and Cleveland

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Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh. So just keep on rolling. You know, they've

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Speaker 1: got to play the Chargers, Rams, Jaguars, and yeah, Chargers, Rams, Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, Dolphins and Steelers. Still the Baltimore so

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Speaker 1: all you know, the Chargers, the Dolphins, the Steelers, you know,

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Speaker 1: and Jacksonville. You know, Bill's fans just say, yeah, go

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Speaker 1: ahead and plow through those, you know for us. And

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Speaker 1: then but when the game looked like it was gonna

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Speaker 1: be a gift, Lamar Jackson was hobbling around all night.

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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks for these teams are gonna go down.

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Speaker 3: It's happened for the Ravens each of the last two years.

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Speaker 1: You saw the season they run the ball a ton

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati is now one in five in the conference, one

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Speaker 2: and five, but they are still ahead of the Bills

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Speaker 2: via the head to head type.

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Speaker 1: They're both both teams are five and five.

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Speaker 2: Now, Bills would be six and four if they had

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Speaker 3: What could have.

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Speaker 2: Been what could have been a long way to go though,

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what comes of it. We do have

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Speaker 2: to remind you that this week's game against the Jets

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Speaker 2: a campus tour this fall and visit Saint Bonaventure. It

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Speaker 2: just might be the right place for you. Right from

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Speaker 2: the start, the intersection of heart and mind have some

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Speaker 2: injury notes to pass along to you. First, head coach

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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott on WGR in his weekly appearance this week,

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Speaker 2: said no players on the injury report have been ruled

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Speaker 2: out for Sunday's game. All of those players are practicing

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Speaker 2: in some capacity today will wait for the Friday injury

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Speaker 2: report to get official designations on those players. We also

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Speaker 2: heard from Robert solid today who addressed the media down

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Speaker 2: receiver Garrett Wilson, who has been dealing with an elbow

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Speaker 2: and play on Sunday. He didn't get into details as

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Speaker 2: to what those hurdles are, but one of their two

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Speaker 2: His status is very much up in the air for

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Speaker 2: Sunday's game. The other interesting one is we saw Dwayne Brown,

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Speaker 2: practicing fully this week, but Robert Salas said he will

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Speaker 2: last week, Billy Turner, because Mackay Beckten is starting at

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Speaker 2: at left tackle, and the mash unit and the shuffling

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Speaker 1: That's right, they're gonna have They're gonna have a chance

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Speaker 1: So if anybody else goes down, they are starting to

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Speaker 3: Already.

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Speaker 2: Got slim pickens here, Steve, because what you have right now,

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Speaker 2: McKay Beckton at left tackle. Laken Tomlinson is the only

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Speaker 2: Tipman was a backup, but Connor McGovern's on IR so

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Speaker 2: he's now the starter at center. Their second round draft choice,

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Speaker 2: Max Mitchell, as we said, has been at right guard

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Speaker 2: because Elijah Vera Tucker was lost for the season, but

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Speaker 2: now he's gonna have to kick out to write tackle

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Speaker 2: with Billy Turner out for this game. Their backups are

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Speaker 2: Dennis Kelly, and Carter Warrant. Two of those players have

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Speaker 2: precariously thin.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Well is it bad that I don't Is it

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Speaker 1: bad that I don't? Feel bad?

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Speaker 3: Well, too bad? So sad?

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Speaker 1: I caught myself saying that, just like that, that's so sad.

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Speaker 1: Do I am I a bad person for like, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think. So we got our own problem, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got our own problems. So, you know, not shedding any.

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Speaker 3: Tears over here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right to the club.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I know, I know, Bills fans get

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Speaker 2: really discouraged when you see the players that the Bills

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Speaker 2: have lost for the season. And Steve and I on

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Speaker 2: this show tell people all the time. It happens everywhere

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Speaker 2: around the league, and it really does. Last night's game

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Speaker 2: is a perfect example. Burrow goes out with the wrist injury.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens win the game, but they lose Mark Andrews

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Speaker 2: for the rest of the season, potentially.

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Speaker 1: One of the top tight ends in the league.

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Speaker 3: And probably their number one guy in the passing.

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Speaker 1: He was there all He was All Pro last year,

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Speaker 1: wasn't he. I think he was so and yeah gone.

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Speaker 2: So I mean it's just I will say though, it

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Speaker 2: gone down this year. Well, I mean the Bills are

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Speaker 2: a perfect example of that. You know, Milano White, even Daiquon.

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Speaker 3: Actually it's their defense. It's helping them win games.

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Speaker 1: So these teams come in with a little bit different

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you heard the guys in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: The OBL Friday fan mail bag is open. Any question

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Speaker 2: begin today with Mark in Buffalo. What's up, Mark, Hey, guys.

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Speaker 7: A couple of comments and observations. It was great to

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Speaker 7: I guess why that was. And then the next complaint comment,

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Speaker 7: I'm tired of people hiring within. I'm against hiring within

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Speaker 7: assuming the offensive coordinator didn't get fired Tuesday morning, we'll

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Speaker 7: use that term. I have to imagine it was in

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Speaker 1: Mark, I'll stop you right there, Mark, I'll stop you

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Speaker 1: right there. Listen. Here's the thing. It takes weeks to

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. Nobody else can do that. Who's been

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Speaker 7: Been problem in your opinion. And one more comment, in

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Speaker 7: Ultimately you're saying like, hey, nothing's going to change because

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Speaker 7: So in your professional opinion, do you expect to see

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Speaker 7: this new offensive coordinator or not, would be a disgrace

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Speaker 7: because Brownie's telling their missing half their team. So in

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Speaker 7: my opinion, we should have just let things go and

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Speaker 7: I'll hang up and listen to your opinion.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I get it. Yeah, you're right, and you're

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Speaker 1: You just can't do it. You wouldn't even know how

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Speaker 2: Even with the same playbook, right, because he's gonna call

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Speaker 3: It's just not.

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Speaker 3: So you've got a.

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, you know what kind of

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Speaker 3: So just something to think about. Let's go to Chris

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, I had a question, a little broader question

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Speaker 5: hip drop tackles. And I'm kind of sitting back going, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I mean, what are your thoughts about where's the NFL

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question. Once Once, once players safety

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Speaker 1: That's that's where the face mask came from. You know,

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Speaker 2: Tripping one from a ten yard penalty to a fifteen

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Speaker 1: Right, So you've got all of the this, you know,

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Speaker 1: at some point who are in my vintage maybe brownies too.

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Speaker 1: Remember days when a guy, if a guy gave himself

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Speaker 1: up on a run, like he just went down like

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Speaker 1: we see quarterbacks do constantly, he got speared. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: got hit. He wasn't just it wasn't a touch. It

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Speaker 1: was somebody going in there and putting a shoulder in

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Speaker 1: their helmet right on the guy, trying to try to

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Speaker 1: hurt him. And when all that changed and became illegal, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: the problem is it's fine and we're all better for

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Speaker 1: it because now you've got guys like Lamar Jackson and

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Pat Mahomes and these guys that are

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Speaker 1: gonna play a lot longer like Ben Roethlisberger did, like

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady did, like Aaron Rodgers has.

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Speaker 2: Because they're the stars of the league and they want

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Speaker 2: them on the field for the on field probably, and.

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Speaker 1: It has made it possible for them to have it

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Speaker 1: longer extended careers, and it's made it possible for other

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Speaker 1: guys as well at other positions. But there's always one

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Speaker 1: question that now because of player safety, has to be asked,

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Speaker 1: what's the most dangerous thing going on our for What's what?

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Speaker 1: How are guys getting hurt? Well, kickoffs are kind of

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Speaker 1: a problem. We're getting three times the number of concussions

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Speaker 1: than any other play. All right, well, how can we

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Speaker 1: fix it? All Right, We're gonna do a standing start.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna put all the return team up right at

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, so everybody's kind of running down

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Speaker 1: the same direction, so we don't have guys on a

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Speaker 1: wedge or coming from in front of the returner full

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Speaker 1: steam ahead, and.

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Speaker 3: The kicking kickup line to the thirty five.

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Speaker 1: And the kickoff team is coming full steam ahead and

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Speaker 1: nobody's trying to avoid contact. That's a problem. So they've

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Speaker 1: changed that now that and now there's a fair catch.

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Speaker 1: You don't even have to you know, kick the ball very.

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Speaker 3: Well to help to return it very well either.

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Speaker 1: Right. So that's the question, and it's a good it's

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Speaker 1: a good question, Chris, because it has to be asked

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Speaker 1: all the time. Now. It's not just because you notice something.

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Speaker 1: Now it's like, okay, where are the injuries happening? Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: let's do something to alleviate that. And because of that,

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Speaker 1: the game is vast different, not still compelling, and it's

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Speaker 1: still played by a lot of big dudes who play

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Speaker 1: it for keeps, but they're not allowed to play the

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Speaker 1: way the old timers do hat did, and the game

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Speaker 1: is different for it. Some people say they don't like it,

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Speaker 1: but I think the ratings and the amount of money

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Speaker 1: it makes will tell you something else.

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Speaker 2: We have to take a break here because when we

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Speaker 2: come back, we're going to have our legend of the

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Speaker 2: game for Sunday's game against the Jets.

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Speaker 3: Who is it?

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Speaker 1: Do we know?

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Speaker 3: We might?

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Speaker 2: We'll find out when we come back here. On One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Collide health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: I have to tell you that this week's Legend of

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Speaker 2: the Game is former Bills running back Fred Jackson. Legend

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Speaker 2: of the Game is presented by the bfl O Store,

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Speaker 2: the official retailer of the Buffalo Bills. Entered to win

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Speaker 2: a two hundred and fifty dollars bfl O gift card

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Speaker 2: and a football signed by Fred Enter at Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 3: How we doing You all ready to rumble on Sunday?

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Speaker 8: I am. I'm doing well, man. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 9: It's always great to get back out the high Mark

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Speaker 9: in front of Bill's Mafia. I mean, they make me

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Speaker 9: feel at home every time I walk out there, so

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Speaker 9: I'm definitely looking forward to getting back out there.

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Speaker 1: What do you What are your memories about the Bills

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Speaker 1: versus Jets games?

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Speaker 9: They were always dogfights, you know, every time we lined

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Speaker 9: up and played and competed against those guys. We had

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Speaker 9: to bring our a game, you know they did. It

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Speaker 9: didn't matter what records were. Everybody was out there competing,

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Speaker 9: you know, from whistle to whistle, and it was always fun.

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Speaker 9: To do to be in those games because it was

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Speaker 9: always some you know some some of the those defenses

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Speaker 9: have always put us as tests on the offensive side

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Speaker 9: of the ball. So it's fun to do that. And

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Speaker 9: I think it's gonna be the same way. I think

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Speaker 9: these guys are gonna compete, come out. They both teams

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Speaker 9: have a lot to fight for right now. So I

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Speaker 9: expected to be a hard fought battle and one that

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Speaker 9: the Bills need to come out on top of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, as much as division games are are street fights, fred,

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Speaker 2: I would say these two teams, their backs are against

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Speaker 2: the wall in terms of records here and you know

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Speaker 2: what you always hear, oh this this is the desperate team. Well,

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Speaker 2: both teams are pretty desperate in this thing. So that

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Speaker 2: should ratchet up the intensity even more, right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would think so.

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Speaker 9: I think, uh, there's a sense of urgency from both

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Speaker 9: sides of both both sides of these teams. Uh, they

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Speaker 9: got to come out and you know, establish what they

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Speaker 9: want to do. And this is the time they need

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Speaker 9: the press towards getting to the postseason. So uh, that's

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Speaker 9: definitely gonna ramp it up. You know, guys are gonna

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Speaker 9: come out. Uh, there's some familiarity on both sides, you

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Speaker 9: know what you know, Hackett being offensive coordinated, it was

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Speaker 9: once in Buffalo and some some players that are over there.

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Speaker 9: So it's gonna be fun. Man, It's gonna be a

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Speaker 9: great atmosphere. You know, Bills Maffi always shows up. You know,

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Speaker 9: it's a three o'clock game, three thirty four o'clock game,

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Speaker 9: so that'll be fun, you know, knowing that most of

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Speaker 9: the NFL will be tuned in to see what's going on.

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Speaker 9: It's it's a game that you know has some implications

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Speaker 9: all throughout the league, So that's also more reasons to

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Speaker 9: be tuned in and jacked up. And I think all

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Speaker 9: those guys know that. So it's just gonna allow for

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Speaker 9: it to be a fun environment and a highly competitive one.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It is that time of season where teams are starting

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Speaker 1: to you know, they're gonna make sure their season doesn't

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Speaker 1: slip away, and they're you know, they're fighting harder right

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Speaker 1: and making changes and reevaluating and kind of settling in

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Speaker 1: after some injuries have hit. Both these clubs in the

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Speaker 1: last two weeks have had players only meeting. Did you

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Speaker 1: ever have one of those when you were playing?

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Speaker 8: I was not a part of any of those.

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Speaker 9: But you know, there was were times where we had

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Speaker 9: meetings we just had the players, and players only were

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Speaker 9: the ones that were in there speaking, you know, but

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Speaker 9: it was we wanted the coaches to hear what we

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Speaker 9: had to say about everything going on.

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Speaker 8: But you know, to each his own.

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Speaker 9: I think that's the whole thing that comes with those

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Speaker 9: locker rooms, with the guys that are captains.

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Speaker 8: What it is that they want, you know, to do.

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Speaker 9: You know, there's some things that need to happen for

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Speaker 9: these guys to get to where they want to be.

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Speaker 9: You know, on both sides of the franchises, they felt

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Speaker 9: like it was a time that they needed to have

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Speaker 9: some meetings and some stuff needed to be aired out,

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Speaker 9: and some things that needed to be said by you know,

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Speaker 9: whatever parties wanted to speak up in those moments. And

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Speaker 9: I think that's just it just goes to leadership on

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Speaker 9: both teams. You know, what they want to get accomplished

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Speaker 9: and what it is that they need to you know,

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Speaker 9: lay the groundwork to get it done.

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Speaker 8: So it's great to see that it's happening.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 9: I like that those those guys are taking the reins

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Speaker 9: and saying, look, man, we need to get this done.

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Speaker 8: You know, I've read that.

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Speaker 9: You know, Josh said he feels personal personally responsible for

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Speaker 9: you know, what happened with door seeing. I think all

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Speaker 9: that stuff and stuff that needs to be talked about.

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Speaker 9: So it's gonna be fun to see what these guys

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Speaker 9: do the rest of the season. You know, their back

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Speaker 9: is against the wall, and uh, they have big dreams.

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Speaker 9: And being five and five with one of the teams

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Speaker 9: that was supposed to be you know, the top tier

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Speaker 9: of the AFC. Uh, it's something where they have to

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Speaker 9: come out and show what they're capable of doing and

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Speaker 9: show why that they were picked to finish so high

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Speaker 9: in the in the AFC.

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Speaker 8: So I'm looking forward to see how they respond.

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Speaker 2: Being a former running back yourself, I'm just curious for

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Speaker 2: your impressions of James Cook here now in year two.

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Speaker 2: He's in the top ten and rushing right now, and

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Speaker 2: I think he's in the top ten for total yards

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Speaker 2: from scrimmage as well, and yet he's not even like

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Speaker 2: a true bell cow back, which doesn't really exist in

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Speaker 2: the league anymore. What are your what are your impressions

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Speaker 2: of him?

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Speaker 9: You know what, I absolutely love watching him because I

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Speaker 9: mean just sitting on the couch looking at him, you

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Speaker 9: can just tell how slippery he is. You know, he

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Speaker 9: can to when he goes into contact, you know, continues

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Speaker 9: to slip out of tackles and fall forward. And that's

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Speaker 9: a guy that you love watching, you know, a guy

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Speaker 9: that can make people missing the phone booth. He's definitely

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Speaker 9: capable of that. He has, you know, breakaway speed, so

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Speaker 9: all he needs is an opportunity to get on the

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Speaker 9: edge of you know, a defender, and he's taking it

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Speaker 9: the entire field. So you'd love to see him get

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Speaker 9: more touches because I think it's one of those I

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Speaker 9: said all the time, is it takes a lot of

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Speaker 9: pressure off of everybody on the offensive side of the

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Speaker 9: ball when you got a ground game, you know, working

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Speaker 9: with him, you know, in all the backs in particular,

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Speaker 9: but when you get that ground game going, it takes

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Speaker 9: a lot of pressure off of Josh, It takes pressure

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Speaker 9: off of the offensive line, it takes pressure off.

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Speaker 8: Of the receivers.

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Speaker 9: And I think it would be awesome to see him

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Speaker 9: get more carries. You know, like you said, the true

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Speaker 9: bell kal of an offense from a running back standpoint

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Speaker 9: just doesn't exist anymore. But I think there is an

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Speaker 9: opportunity to get him more touches and let him be

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Speaker 9: a vital part of getting this offense revamped and back

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Speaker 9: to what is so, you know, being biased as a

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Speaker 9: running back. You know, I think that's somewhere that they

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Speaker 9: do need to start, and I think it makes it

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Speaker 9: again a lot easier for everybody on the offensive side

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Speaker 9: of the ball if they.

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Speaker 8: Do do that.

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Speaker 1: Freddy, thanks for coming on with us. I gotta ask

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Speaker 1: you when you get in town.

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Speaker 8: I'll be there tomorrow morning, early tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: Fred, good to catch up with you.

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Speaker 2: Get him amped up on Saturday or a Sunday afternoon

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Speaker 2: sounds good.

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Speaker 8: I appreciate you guys having me. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: All right. That's Fred Jackson.

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Speaker 2: This week's Legend of the Game, presented by the bfl

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Speaker 2: O Store, the official retailer of the Buffalo Bills. A

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Speaker 2: BFLO gift card and a football signed by Fred. Just

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Speaker 2: enter at Buffalo Bills dot com slash bfl oh. So

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Speaker 2: that'd be cool. Fred's good about getting people lamped up.

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Speaker 2: He's done that before he knows what he's doing. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's been there and done that, so that'll be cool.

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Speaker 2: Get Freddy on the mic right before kickoff this.

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Speaker 1: There really is something to this second half, first half,

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Speaker 1: second half of the season. He's Freddy Jackson coming into

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Speaker 1: kind of kick off another four to twenty five game

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Speaker 1: here in Buffalo is looking at something on on the timeline.

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Speaker 1: There's five, like five or six teams ahead of Buffalo

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Speaker 1: right now, and they're all fighting. Clawng kicking and scrashing.

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Speaker 1: You got Indy, Cincy, Houston, Cleveland, Pittsburgh. Those are not

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Speaker 1: the Juggernauts, Juggernauts or the necessarily even the in the

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Speaker 1: H division leaders. Those are wild card teams that are

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Speaker 1: all in the mix all right around at Indy backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Sincy now has a backup quarterback, Custon, Houston has a

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, and Cleveland's starting a rookie. Cleveland's rookie backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And Pittsburgh is that a backup quarterback?

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Speaker 2: No, no, Pickets Can'ty Pickett, can't you Pickett can't he

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Speaker 2: Pickett doesn't turn the ball.

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Speaker 3: Over, right, That's what he doesn't do.

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Speaker 1: And that's helped, and they're six and three.

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Speaker 3: That's how they're winning. That's how they turned the ball.

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Speaker 1: Over exactly how they're winning at that plus a lot

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Speaker 1: of defense, a bit rush, a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: pass run.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get back to the phones though.

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Speaker 2: At ATO three five to fifty, the OBL Friday fan

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Speaker 2: mailbag is open. Any question you may have on the bills,

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Speaker 2: the NFL, whatever football related thing you're wondering about. Fire

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Speaker 2: it off to us at ATO three oh five fifty

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Speaker 2: one eighty eight eight five point fifty two, five fifty.

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Speaker 2: Have some open lines for you, but we go to

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Speaker 2: Mark in Tonawanda next.

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Speaker 3: What you got for us?

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Speaker 10: Mark, Hello, gentlemen, I got a question and a comment. Okay,

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Speaker 10: first question, and the question is why is it that

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Speaker 10: alignment or anybody running that is anybody in the face.

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Speaker 10: It's the illegal hands to the face. But if somebody

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Speaker 10: quarterback or receivers running down the field and they straight

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Speaker 10: arm somebody in the face, that's not a penalty.

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Speaker 1: Only because they've got the ball in their hand.

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Speaker 11: That's the only reason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if they're run with the football, they're entitled to

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Speaker 1: fend off would be tacklers.

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Speaker 10: Okay, so hands of the face doesn't count on that. Nope,

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Speaker 10: that's right, okay. And my comment is I know exactly

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Speaker 10: what's wrong with the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Oh let's hear it.

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Speaker 10: It's called the Madden curse.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because Josh is on the cover Madden.

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Speaker 10: You got it, okay, man, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, I mean you can you can use that

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Speaker 2: if you want. I guess Patrick Mahomes won a Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl when he was on the cover, so I think

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Speaker 2: it kind of got foiled by that. So take it

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Speaker 2: for what it's worth. But all right, though you want to,

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Speaker 2: you want to use it. It makes you feel better.

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Speaker 3: Go for it.

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Speaker 1: We're looking. We're looking for answers too.

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Speaker 3: We're all looking for answer.

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Speaker 1: We'll listen to anything.

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Speaker 3: You're right about that. We're all looking.

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Speaker 1: I am if you know what it was, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna I was walking home the other day and got it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't mean to, but I stepped on the crack

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Speaker 2: of the sidewalk, son of a.

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Speaker 1: That's why I am not going to dismiss any theory

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: So if you you're willing to believe that any theory

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Speaker 2: has a shred of legitimacy, that's where you are.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that, but I'm not gonna.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear it. You're not gonna just I

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Speaker 1: want to hear it, you know, I want to What

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Speaker 1: do you got? Can can it be fixed? Can we

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Speaker 1: get Josh? Can we get Josh off of Madden? Right quick?

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Speaker 3: Come next to August? You can give me.

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Speaker 1: Something I can fix. That's what I really want to hear.

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Speaker 1: But if you got a theory and why you know

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Speaker 1: what needs Hey.

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Speaker 3: Man, listen, this is where we are.

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Speaker 2: God, okay, let's uh, let's see what brilliance lies on

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Speaker 2: the tweets sheet. In terms of the OBL Friday fan

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Speaker 2: mail bag, Robert says, my question is I keep hearing

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Speaker 2: about how offensive coordinators make better head coaches.

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Speaker 3: I don't buy it. What do you?

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Speaker 2: What do you guys think? Also a question for Steve.

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Speaker 2: Do special teams have plays or do they just go

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Speaker 2: out and line up for kickoff in punts?

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Speaker 3: Steve, did you just go run out there chase people?

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Speaker 1: Yes, go line up over there, go run at them,

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Speaker 1: line up over there, spread out and then just get

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Speaker 1: and he kicks it, run after it. That's basically it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that was why. If you answer why I can carry

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Speaker 1: it out? I have much to think about.

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Speaker 2: You answer that one first, boy, we're on a string

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Speaker 2: of about three minutes of radio.

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Speaker 3: That is just special.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even that question about special teams having plays.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even going to get into the disrespect, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, Oh you're right, And I let me say,

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Speaker 1: maybe I did it to myself. Maybe I did it

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Speaker 1: to myself. I always told him, Hey, they can get

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Speaker 1: anybody to cover kiss man. Maybe I was right.

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Speaker 3: There are Please confirm there are plays.

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Speaker 1: There are plays. And when guys run down they say

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Speaker 1: stay in their lanes, you know that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: When you're spread out across the field on kickoff. There's

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Speaker 1: all kinds of tricks and games you can play running

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Speaker 1: down the field. So, yes, they do have plays. Punt returns,

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Speaker 1: they there is different stuff you do. You either attack

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Speaker 1: the protection team and push them back and try and

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Speaker 1: act like everybody's trying to block the punt, so they

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Speaker 1: they're really panicking trying to protect the punter to make

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Speaker 1: sure they don't get a punt block. Because they get

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Speaker 1: a punt block, it's catastrophic. So what that does is

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Speaker 1: the guy kicks it and now these guys haven't released.

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Speaker 1: They're still back there fighting with you guys five or

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Speaker 1: eight yards behind the line of scrimmage, and that gives

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Speaker 1: your return man more space on the other end. Stuff

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Speaker 1: like that. Punt team, Yes, you can directional punt it.

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Speaker 1: You can, you know, and obviously you can run.

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Speaker 3: Fakes right return, left return.

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Speaker 1: Oh, and the return game is yeah, the return game.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you can middle return, right return, left return double double,

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Speaker 1: a certain guy double, two guys leave, two guys free, single,

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Speaker 1: the single, the gunners double, the gunners run a guy

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Speaker 1: out late, two men deep, one man deep, and they

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Speaker 1: all have responsibilities that change with every With.

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Speaker 3: Aroncos Or double and Saran Neil a lot last week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Saren can. Saran is a really good player, so

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Speaker 1: he gets a lot of attention. So yeah, yes there

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Speaker 1: are yes, there are.

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Speaker 3: Plays, Yes, there are plays confirmed.

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Speaker 2: As for offensive coordinators making better head coaches, I think

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Speaker 2: that statement is a little misguided.

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Speaker 3: I think there are a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of fans who get disappointed and annoyed when a team

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Speaker 2: who has a head coach loses their offensive coordinator because

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Speaker 2: he becomes the head coach of another team and now

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Speaker 2: you're through a new play caller.

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Speaker 3: The Bills obviously.

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Speaker 2: Experience that they're on their third one in three years

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Speaker 2: now with Joe Brady as the interim, because their head

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Speaker 2: coach is not the offensive play caller. And so I

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Speaker 2: think there are a lot of people out there knowing

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Speaker 2: that the focal point of most teams is the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: They don't want the quarterback's life disrupted by having to

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Speaker 2: cycle through coordinators all the time. And so I think

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Speaker 2: the general preference for fans is to have a head

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Speaker 2: coach who is also the offensive coordinator working with the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And there are plenty of examples in that across the league.

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Speaker 2: But there are defensive head coaches also who run their

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Speaker 2: defense or have been successful, Belichick being the most noteworthy obvious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think there's a tendency for recency bias.

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Speaker 1: Guys like Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, Kyle shanahand Lafleur and

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Speaker 1: in Green Bay, Andy Reid, Andy Reid, most notably all

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Speaker 1: Mike mcnanielan in Miami. The guys who are fun to

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Speaker 1: watch and have great teams and all that tend to

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Speaker 1: have those great quarterbacks and they're offensive guys, and and

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Speaker 1: that's you know, it's great. Well, it wasn't that long ago.

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Speaker 1: When you had other guys winning these. Belichick is a

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Speaker 1: defensive guy. Bill Cower is a defensive guy. Tony Dungee

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Speaker 1: was a defensive guy. So yeah, go go down the list.

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Speaker 1: So Tom Coughlin was well, he struck me as a

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Speaker 1: defensive guy, but I think he was actually an offensive guy.

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Speaker 3: John Harbaugh's special team.

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh's special teams. I think one of the things

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Speaker 1: that people you hear about it in passing, but you know,

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Speaker 1: we get caught up in the offensive, defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball, or the special team. So these guys are leaders.

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Speaker 1: They're the kind of guys that be through their personality

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Speaker 1: and the way they speak and communicate, makes players want

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Speaker 1: to join them. Yeah, not follow them, join them. And

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Speaker 1: that's a distinction. That's that's subtle, but very profound. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they don't just you don't lead guys in the national

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Speaker 1: football or anything else. For in my opinion, you don't

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Speaker 1: lead people by getting them to fall in line behind

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Speaker 1: you and follow you. You get them. You lead them

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Speaker 1: by getting them to join you in your common purpose.

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Speaker 1: That's what leadership is. And that doesn't mean you have

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Speaker 1: to be an offensive guy or a defensive guy or

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Speaker 1: a special teams guy. So that's that's my take on it.

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Speaker 1: we go through and they had this big, huge section

872
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: of the Bills and this is when I was playing,

873
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: So this is years ago. We're walking through there and

874
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: I look up and of course weren't in Buffaloes. So

875
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: there's got a bunch of Buffalo bill stuff. But jerseys

876
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: weren't as common then as they are now. And up

877
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: on the wall there was like a John Elway, a

878
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: Dan Marino, a Jim Kelly, a Bruce Smith, and a

879
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: rack of Steve Tasker jerseys next to those guys. Yeah,

880
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: I got I gotta be honest with you. I got

881
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: choked up because it was as those those guys were icons, right,

882
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: and at least here in Buffalo, there's somebody who, like

883
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: the guy in the picture, bought my jersey, and or

884
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: somebody at Pennies or Series or whatever it was decided.

885
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: You know, I bet you there's some people. There's some

886
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: crazy people out there that would buy these special teams.

887
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: Or the manager of that store is a big task

888
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: right right next to the quarterback, right next to the

889
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and the hall of and the best pass rusher

890
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: ever to play.

891
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. It was really cool.

892
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: That is awesome.

893
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: It was That's the one time when I was really

894
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: touched by just some stupid thing that you see in

895
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: a store. It does mean something to me, and I

896
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: was I make a joke that when I see people

897
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: wearing my jersey that I have a small and deeply

898
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: disturbed following, right, But I there's I couldn't. I can't

899
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: even express how cool it is. It's the coolest thing ever.

900
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: That is, it is the coolest thing ever. And that

901
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: you know a little story about the department store. And

902
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: then I mean I walk around the stadium constantly, and

903
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: I move around pretty freely. I put a hat on,

904
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: and because I'm not six five, I just tool around and.

905
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: People look like the rest of us regularly.

906
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: Once yeah, once in a while people will say, you know,

907
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: hasty or whatever, but most of the time they're just

908
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm just some more, one more guy. And I'm perfectly

909
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: happy with that. So it it is awesome, And I

910
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: appreciate that, Tony, that was a nice That's nice because

911
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: it it is meaningful to me to see people.

912
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 2: Congratulations to Tony. Because for that question, a premium mystery

913
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914
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 2: courtesy of Total Sports Enterprises, So enjoy that. We're gonna

915
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: squeeze in a quick phone call here. Tom in Lakhajuana,

916
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: who's been waiting patiently what do you got for us, Tom.

917
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 4: Hi Eyes, Hey, somebody called earlier about Josh McDaniels. He

918
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: signed a six year, guaranteed contract for ten million a year.

919
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to be taking a job

920
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 4: as a coordinator. He's probably in Aruba or somewhere and

921
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 4: doesn't even care about football anymore.

922
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: Well, you would think that most of us regular people

923
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: would opt for the beach, and I would be inclined

924
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 2: to agree with you, Tom, But as Steve has said

925
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: many times, the coaching profession is not a profession.

926
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 3: It's a lifestyle.

927
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: A lot of these guys that are in it are

928
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: in it because they love it. You just heard Joe

929
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: Brady talking the other day. Sean talked about him, Guy's

930
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: first one in, last one out.

931
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: He loves football.

932
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: I would imagine that Josh McDaniels is cut from the

933
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: same cloth. And if he still wants to be in

934
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: the game, you can't be out of the game for

935
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: very long. And not only that, even though the Raiders

936
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: owe him ten million a year for the next five

937
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: years or whatever it is, if he gets another coaching

938
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: job somewhere else, he's still going to be making ten

939
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: million a year. The Raiders will just pay the difference

940
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: of whatever he's making at his new team. That's kind

941
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: of how it works.

942
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: Right, So the Bills could pay him fifty grand a

943
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: year and he's making ten million, nine hundred and fifty

944
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: grand from the Raiders. It's nine million, nine hundred and

945
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: fifty ran. So yeah, it's yeah, you're right. It's a lifestyle.

946
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: And you and me both, Man, if I've got ten

947
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: million bucks a year coming in, I'm gonna take a breath.

948
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna because it's a meat grinder too. I

949
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: mean it is. It's not a job. It's a lifestyle,

950
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: and it's and I would say this too about a

951
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: guy like Josh McDaniels and some of these guys. He's

952
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 1: a younger, they're all younger than me. But I'm sure

953
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: he's got a family, and after going for sixteen hours

954
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: a day for months and months and months and year

955
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: after year after year, having him home and being able

956
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: to sit down and just spend time together, it's probably

957
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: a nice little respite at least for a minute.

958
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he might say that time is now, why

959
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: not work it right now? Yell on the beach. Now

960
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: we have to take a break. Because our number two

961
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: is going to begin with you know who. It's our

962
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: weekly Friday visitor in the second hour of the show,

963
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: Greg co Sel, senior producer from NFL Films and co

964
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 2: hosts of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show, Come on your way

965
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: next here on One Bill's Live.

966
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:34,840
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967
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,640
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968
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,640
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969
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: only one thing. Senior producer from NFL Films, Greg Cosell,

970
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: joining us as he does every week, and his segment

971
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,600
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972
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 2: the show presented every week by Scott Lonyard, an official

973
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: commercial site work partner of the Buffalo Bills. All Right, Greg,

974
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: some changes afoot in the offensive meeting rooms this week

975
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: in Buffalo, Joe Brady in, Ken Dorsey out and it's

976
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: a short week for them having played on Monday night.

977
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: What do you believe is realistic in terms of progressive

978
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: changes to improve the point, production and the consistency of

979
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: an offense that has been very up and down this season.

980
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess the first thing you have to figure

981
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 6: out is what you think the problems are. It's always

982
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 6: easy when you know you don't score a lot to say, okay,

983
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 6: there needs to be a change, because obviously the goal

984
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 6: on offense is the score. But to me, it's the why,

985
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 6: it's the process. Why is that not happening? And I

986
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 6: guess you know, football teams have to be honest with themselves,

987
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 6: and it's always been said that sometimes coaches are not

988
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 6: as honest with their own personnel as they are with others.

989
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 6: You know, I think I'll give you my overview. You know,

990
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 6: I'm not there every day. And obviously, you know, you

991
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 6: can go back a number of weeks when they scored

992
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 6: whatever it was against the Dolphins forty eight, and everybody

993
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 6: said they're the best offense in the league. But I've

994
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 6: said this for a couple of years. I don't think

995
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 6: that this is a highly talented offense in terms of personnel.

996
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 6: So to me, when that's the case, you need to

997
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 6: be built on scheme and tactics. And you know, I

998
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 6: don't want to sit here and say that, oh, they're predictable.

999
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 6: I know some might be saying that. You know, that's

1000
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 6: a hard thing to know for sure, because you don't

1001
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 6: know how defenses build their game. Plans against the Bills.

1002
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 6: But I think that you have a quarterback that's a

1003
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 6: playmaker more than a precision player, and at some point

1004
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 6: you do need to work toward precision. It's very hard

1005
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 6: to live in this league just being a playmaker. They've

1006
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 6: done that well for a number of years. They've won

1007
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 6: a lot of games, they've scored a lot of points.

1008
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 6: For whatever reason, that's not working this given season the

1009
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 6: way that they hoped it would work. So to me,

1010
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 6: you have to figure out how to I'm trying to

1011
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 6: think the right word. It's not simplify. That's not the

1012
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 6: right word. But you have to figure out a way,

1013
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 6: through your scheming and your concepts to present the clearest

1014
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 6: picture possible for Josh Allen so that things are defined

1015
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 6: so that he can drop back and deliver the football.

1016
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 6: Because Josh has a tendency prematurely to leave the pocket

1017
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 6: when he doesn't feel right away that it's comfortable. And

1018
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 6: I'm talking about with the concept, not with the pressure.

1019
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 6: I'm talking about with the concept. So you have to

1020
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 6: do the best job you can of defining it so

1021
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 6: that when he hits his back foot he feels, oh, yeah,

1022
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 6: there's my throw. I'm turning it loose.

1023
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: We've had a bunch of conversations with you and Dan

1024
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: Orlovsky and another analysts, and we've talked gone round and

1025
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: round about the difference between Josh being under center and

1026
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: in the shotgun, and his numbers under center are off

1027
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: the charts good. I mean, he's like one hundred and

1028
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: thirty plus quarterback rating, he's got no turnovers. He you know,

1029
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: no yard per attempt is like twelve point one. It's

1030
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: almost double what it is out from shotgun. Now. I

1031
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: know they spend a wayle it's a smaller sample size.

1032
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: What are we talking about here? Is this? Is that

1033
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: a real thing? Or are we over Are we making

1034
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: too much out of something that's a little more subtle.

1035
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 6: Well, I think it's a real thing when you're talking

1036
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 6: play action, and that's my personal point of view. I

1037
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 6: think play action is far more effective with the quarterback

1038
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 6: under center because I think it takes longer to reach

1039
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 6: the mesh point. It therefore puts a greater mental burden

1040
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 6: on second level defenders. They have to wait and see

1041
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 6: is that a run? Is that a pass? And by

1042
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 6: the way, I think one other thing I would mention

1043
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 6: that goes along with that, by the way, is I

1044
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 6: think that there needs to be greater synergy between the

1045
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 6: run game and the play action pass game. You know,

1046
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 6: I think that that is a critical piece of the

1047
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 6: equation because you want the defense to feel that it

1048
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 6: looks the same for the first second and a half,

1049
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 6: you know, or two seconds that hey, I don't know

1050
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 6: if this is a runner pass because it looks the same.

1051
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 6: You hear that all the time about the teams that

1052
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 6: are really good with run action, like the forty nine ers,

1053
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 6: like like the Rams, you know, when they had Girly

1054
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 6: and they ran that offense. You know, you want it

1055
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 6: to look exactly the same. But I think to me,

1056
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 6: play action under center is more difficult for the defense,

1057
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 6: and it defines reads and throws more clearly because it's

1058
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 6: your you know, what's happening is the quarterback's turning his back,

1059
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 6: so obviously when he snaps it around, you're asking him

1060
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 6: to basically find a defender one read and let's throw

1061
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 6: the ball, you know, based on that guy, and maybe

1062
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 6: if it's not there, you check it down. But you know,

1063
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 6: I think it defines things much more clearly. Plus it

1064
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 6: really helps with protection too, right.

1065
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: We've we've heard also from some people that know what

1066
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: they're looking at. Basically say that the Bills need to

1067
00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: scheme to make execution easier on the play. In other words,

1068
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 2: don't have an offense that relies almost solely on the

1069
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 2: execution level and skill level of the player to win.

1070
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 2: Use the scheme to facilitate execution for the player to win,

1071
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: so they don't have to be perfect on every single

1072
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: play to actually make a play within the scope of

1073
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: the offense. So with that in mind, scheming matchups, so

1074
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: to speak. James Cook is a guy that I still

1075
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: am not certain has been schemed up to make plays

1076
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: for this offense enough, particularly in the passing game. He

1077
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: gets limited time on the field last week and goes

1078
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: for over one hundred yards one hundred and twenty total

1079
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: yards from scrimmage. He's in the top ten in rushing

1080
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: and in total yards from scrimmage despite playing about half

1081
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: the snaps. Are there ways to scheme a player of

1082
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 2: his skill set greg into winning situations in the passing game?

1083
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 6: I would answer yeah, yes. And by the way, Brownie,

1084
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 6: the way you started what you just said is exactly

1085
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 6: what I was talking about at the beginning. To me,

1086
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 6: it needs to be more scheme based. Now, look, football

1087
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 6: in the NFL is always a game of matchups. Clearly,

1088
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 6: they are going to be one on one matchups at times.

1089
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 6: That's the way it is. But you know, I think

1090
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 6: they have to do a better job of through the

1091
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 6: use of formation, of getting you know, someone like James Cook,

1092
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 6: who was, by the way, a terrific receiver in college,

1093
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 6: and we really haven't met in the NFL. I mean,

1094
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 6: we've seen him make some receptions, some of them have

1095
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 6: come on second reaction plays where Josh Allen has moved,

1096
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 6: but as far as him being a part of the

1097
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 6: pass game, you know, whether it's offset in the backfield,

1098
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 6: whether it's through motion or shifting or detached from the formation,

1099
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 6: we really haven't seen a lot of that. And he

1100
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 6: is a really really good receiver, you know. And also

1101
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 6: again I don't know what Josh Allen's feeling about. This

1102
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 6: is some quarterbacks like it, some don't, But I would

1103
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 6: love to see more motion in this offense. You know

1104
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 6: that that's something that you know, like I said, the

1105
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 6: quarterback has to feel comfortable with because the defense will

1106
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 6: also move at times and you have to feel you're

1107
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 6: okay with that. So but I think there's a number

1108
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 6: of things they can do to get players involved because

1109
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 6: you know.

1110
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 10: It.

1111
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 6: Maybe it's a it's a bold, controversial statement. I don't know.

1112
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 6: I'm just watching tape, but I hear people all the time,

1113
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 6: and I watch the game Monday night, obviously, and I

1114
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 6: heard Joe Bucken Troy Aigman talk about it. To me,

1115
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 6: I don't think this is a high level talent offense.

1116
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 6: I think that it needs to be schemed up, and

1117
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 6: I don't think they played like that, and I think

1118
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 6: that that hurts. It hurts execution, and it puts way

1119
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 6: too much of a burden on the quarterback.

1120
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: Don't Sometimes I would agree, And I'll say this, most

1121
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: teams and coaching staffs in the NFL, their idea is

1122
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: to build their offensive scheme or their defensive scheme around

1123
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: what their players and their roster does best.

1124
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 6: Right.

1125
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: How much of that is because Josh is this kind

1126
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: of unicorn dude? Has it evolved into this where they said, well,

1127
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: this is what we do, We're just going to keep

1128
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: doing it.

1129
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 6: I think that that and I don't know how they

1130
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 6: feel in the building, right, But my sense has always

1131
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 6: been that since that two game playoff run, a couple

1132
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 6: of years ago when they lost to the Chiefs, when

1133
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 6: Josh Allen maybe played the two best playoff games that

1134
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 6: people can remember, that the feeling was that this guy

1135
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 6: is superman and you know, and he was so ridiculously

1136
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 6: good in those two games. I mean it was it

1137
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 6: was unbelievable that you know, I think that the feeling is,

1138
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 6: you know, Josh is going to make it happen for us.

1139
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 6: And the thing about Josh Allen is, and you guys

1140
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 6: know how I feel about him. I love I think

1141
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 6: he's the most gifted quarterback in the league. But there's

1142
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 6: certain kinds of gifts, you know, Josh at his core,

1143
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 6: and I believe you have to still work toward this.

1144
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 6: And I've actually had this conversation with people. Josh at

1145
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 6: his core is not a precision player the way you

1146
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 6: think of let's say a Drew Brees or a Tom

1147
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 6: Brady or even a Joe Burrow to a certain extent.

1148
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 6: You know, he's much more of a playmaker. But I

1149
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 6: think you have to work toward being that way. You know,

1150
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 6: he's now in his what is sixty year is that correct?

1151
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right.

1152
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 6: You know we know that he's he can be incredibly special.

1153
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 6: And by the way, you know this is no knock

1154
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 6: on Josh Allen. I mean you know, it's it's become

1155
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 6: in vogue the last couple of weeks to rip Josh Allen,

1156
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 6: and I think that's silly and ridiculous. The guy is

1157
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,919
Speaker 6: you know, everybody says, well, he turns it over too much.

1158
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 6: He's also scored the most touchdowns in the league. People

1159
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 6: conveniently forget that point. But you know, I think that

1160
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 6: you still have to work toward him being as efficient

1161
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 6: as he can be in the pocket. And because that's

1162
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 6: you still have to make plays from the pocket in

1163
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 6: critical situations and games. It can't always be take the snap,

1164
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 6: leave the pocket and do something special that just doesn't

1165
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 6: automatically happen. And you know, when it doesn't happen, it

1166
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 6: makes it seem like, God, what is wrong with this offense?

1167
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 6: It's bad. So you still have to keep working toward that.

1168
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 6: And that's where the scheming, I think becomes so critically important.

1169
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: As bad as the Bills offense has been, it pales

1170
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 2: in comparison to the Jets, who have much different circumstances

1171
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 2: to deal with. They have a mangled offensive line which

1172
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: looks like it's gonna have yet another shuffle this week

1173
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: because Billy Turner has already been declared out with a

1174
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 2: finger injury, So that means Max Mitchell is going to

1175
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 2: have to kick back out to right tackle, where he

1176
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 2: is a third or fourth option at best, and they're

1177
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 2: gonna have to figure out who plays right guard with

1178
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 2: the collection of guys they've just signed in the last

1179
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 2: week or two. Couple that with Zach Wilson, who on offense,

1180
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 2: has not had a touchdown scored on thirty six consecutive

1181
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 2: drives spanning eleven core orders of football, Greg, how broken

1182
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 2: is that thing?

1183
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 6: Would I guess we'd view that as a problem, Brownie.

1184
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 6: Wouldn't we have a problem.

1185
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 3: It's a natural disaster.

1186
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 6: Well, I will say this. You know, obviously I watched

1187
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 6: them this week. They're a tough offense to watch. You know.

1188
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 6: First of all, the biggest I don't want to say

1189
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 6: the biggest. They've got many, but a big issue for

1190
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 6: them when you're playing with a quarterback like Zach Wilson

1191
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 6: is they can't run the ball. The last four games,

1192
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 6: their run game has been really, really bad. And if

1193
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 6: they can't run the ball, they're not really going to

1194
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 6: move the ball. You know, I think with Zach Wilson,

1195
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 6: so much to me is pre determined.

1196
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: You know.

1197
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 6: I hear people say play to his strengths. Well, it's

1198
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 6: hard to play to his straints when he really doesn't

1199
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 6: see things well, so everything becomes pre determined. You know,

1200
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 6: he's going to drop and he's going to throw the

1201
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 6: ball where the play is designed to go regardless. Also,

1202
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 6: the thing that really bothers me, and I actually talk

1203
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 6: with my guys in the matchup in the matchup room

1204
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 6: here when I watched him yesterday, and again I'm not there,

1205
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 6: so I don't know how he's coached. But I was

1206
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 6: fortunate to be taught the position by guys that really

1207
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 6: knew the position and taught it with nuanced in detail.

1208
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 6: And he still does not know how to drop back,

1209
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 6: to sync up his drop with the route concepts. And

1210
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 6: to me, that is inexcusable at this point in his career,

1211
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 6: you know, and that just offends my sense of how

1212
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 6: the position is supposed to be played. It's one thing

1213
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 6: to miss a throw, you know, or make a bad read.

1214
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 6: That happens, it's the NFL. But you know, the first

1215
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 6: play of the game last week, I mean, his first throw.

1216
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 6: Excuse me, it was his first throw, not his first play,

1217
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 6: first throw, and he ended up completing the ball to

1218
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 6: Garret Wilson. But it was a slant route and you know,

1219
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 6: it's three step drop timing, and his footwork was awful,

1220
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 6: and he made it five step drop, and Wilson ended

1221
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 6: up catching the ball inside the numbers, which is where

1222
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 6: he shouldn't be catching the ball, and he almost got

1223
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 6: him killed. You know. I mean, it's little things like

1224
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 6: that that affect execution, and that's why it's one of

1225
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 6: the reasons why this offense is really so bad. With

1226
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 6: the pass game.

1227
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: I was talking. I heard read an article from Kurt Warner,

1228
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback, you know, the two times three time MVP. Yeah, yeah,

1229
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: he's talking exactly about what you're talking about. He says

1230
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks struggle with the shotgun passing game

1231
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: because under center, you know, it's a three step drop,

1232
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: a five step drop, seven step drop, and that those

1233
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: drops coincide with the timing of the routes that they're

1234
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: designed to get the ball thrown to. So you five

1235
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: step drop hitch and the ball's gone and by that

1236
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,959
Speaker 1: time the receiver has run fifteen yards made the break

1237
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: and is ready for the football or about or ready

1238
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: for the football to be thrown in shot That timing

1239
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: is all messed up because the ball gets back there

1240
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: and you're already standing there and you have to wait

1241
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: on all that stuff to happen, and there's a whole

1242
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: His the point was, and maybe you've seen enough quarterbacks,

1243
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: and I'll ask you this, are there enough quarterbacks that

1244
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: struggle with that timing, because yeah, you know what I

1245
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: mean because of the shotgun patience you have to have

1246
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: well to get the ball quick and you're already you're

1247
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: already dropped back. I guess is the question is the point?

1248
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 6: And Steve you know this, and Brownie you know it

1249
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 6: as well. All these quarterbacks now that come up are

1250
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 6: seven and seven guys from the time they're ten years old, right,

1251
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 6: so they're sitting in the gun, you don't really get

1252
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 6: a sense of football. I remember a number of years

1253
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 6: ago having the opportunity to have a great conversation with

1254
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 6: Troy Aikman, who hated the gun. And the reason he

1255
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 6: hated he said, I get my whole sense of timing

1256
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 6: and rhythm dropping back from being under center. And if

1257
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 6: you recall, he was a master at that bang eight

1258
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 6: skinny post with Michael Irvin, which you don't see much

1259
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 6: of in the NFL anymore because you don't see it

1260
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 6: at the lower levels because it requires such precise timing,

1261
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 6: hit the back foot, transfer your weight, deliver the football.

1262
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 6: A lot of these quarterbacks can't do that. You know,

1263
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 6: they've never been taught to do that. And Steve, I

1264
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 6: can see that when I watch tape Eeve, when I

1265
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 6: watch college quarterbacks and I do my draft work, that's

1266
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 6: not the way these guys play the position. And you know,

1267
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 6: so sometimes it can be hard to teach that to

1268
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 6: a guy when he's twenty five years old in the NFL,

1269
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 6: but you know it's to me. And I'm a purist

1270
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 6: because you know, the guy that taught me quarterback play

1271
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 6: and then he's considered one of the best ever. And

1272
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 6: I was so lucky in my career, incredibly grateful was

1273
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 6: Bill Walsh, you know, and you know he's a purist,

1274
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 6: so he taught me the position. So I think about

1275
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 6: that when I watch guys right right.

1276
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 2: The Jets, as we know, have been a bit of

1277
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 2: a bugaboo team for Josh Allen. We know he turns

1278
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: all over a lot to begin with against the Jets

1279
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 2: in particular, in his ten games played against them, has

1280
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 2: seventeen turnovers, ten picks, seven fumbles lost, and just nine touchdowns.

1281
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: Is there anything that they do in particular? I know

1282
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 2: you've told us in the past they make everything hard

1283
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 2: for opposing offenses, But is there anything in particular that

1284
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 2: would spike the propensity to turn the ball over against them?

1285
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,560
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I think back to specific interceptions,

1286
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 6: and I mean, look, you guys remember Week one. Those

1287
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 6: interceptions to me were not the Jets doing anything in particular. Right,

1288
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 6: two were just throwing it down the field when he

1289
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 6: shouldn't have, and the other was kind of a flat

1290
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 6: seven combination where he was late throwing the ball to

1291
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 6: I think it was Gabe Davis and Whitehead cut in

1292
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 6: front of him. His memory serves me correctly, you know. So,

1293
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,759
Speaker 6: I think you're dealing with a defense that is really

1294
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Speaker 6: good upfront, and I think the Bills O line is

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Speaker 6: probably by NFL standards, just maybe slightly above average. I

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Speaker 6: think he's They're really good upfront. I think they're really

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Speaker 6: smart in the secondary. One thing that I noticed when

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Speaker 6: I watched them is I think Whitehead in particular and

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Speaker 6: I know he had the three picks week one, but

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Speaker 6: I think Whitehead is a really aware player of understanding

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Speaker 6: based on splits what routes are coming. And that's what

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Speaker 6: you want your safeties to be. But I think he's

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Speaker 6: really really good at that. And it gets back to

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Speaker 6: the point about the Bills. I don't think they are

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Speaker 6: that multiple with their route concepts. And and we'll see

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01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 6: what happens with Brady now as the coordinator. I don't

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Speaker 6: know what you can do in three days, maybe over

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 6: time three four weeks. But they've obviously got some really

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01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 6: difficult games coming up. I mean, they play the Bills

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Speaker 6: this week, excuse me, the Jets this week, and then

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Speaker 6: isn't it the Eagles next week?

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Speaker 1: The Eagles and then the bye and then Kansas City.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so, I mean, you know, you're dealing with some

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Speaker 6: really difficult defenses to play against, particularly the Jets in

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Speaker 6: Kansas City. I mean, even the Cowboys, they're difficult to

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Speaker 6: play against. So you know, I'm really curious to see

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Speaker 6: this week because, as Brownie said, the Jets do give

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Speaker 6: them problems, not only schematically, but they have really good

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Speaker 6: players they do.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, Greg, thanks as always appreciate it. We will catch

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Speaker 2: up with you next week.

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Speaker 6: All right, guys, appreciated.

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Speaker 3: Thanks all right.

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Speaker 2: That's Greg co Sel, senior producer from NFL Films, also

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Speaker 2: co host of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show and as much

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Speaker 2: as Josh over the years has owned Miami, the Jets have.

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Speaker 2: Jets have been a bugaboo Division team for him, They

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01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 2: really have. They make life difficult for him and the

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Speaker 2: team as a whole. And we heard Fred Jackson, who's

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Speaker 2: our legend of the game this week say it. Even

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01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 2: back when he was playing, these games were a street

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Speaker 2: fight and nip and tuck type games, and there's no

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Speaker 2: reason to think it's gonna be any different on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: No, it's their defense is too good and certainly the Bill.

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01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: You feel like, with Josh and his ability to make plays,

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Speaker 1: if they do that and they don't turn it over,

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01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: they could win this game going away. But we haven't

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01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: seen that yet. There's a lot of question marks surrounding that.

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01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: A new offensive coordinator, you know, all this stuff's going

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01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: on over here, and the Jets are in the same

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01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 1: boat as the Bills. They feel like if they get

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01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: it together, they can cruise in trying to get a

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01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: piece of this. So yeah, it's going to be I

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01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: think it's going to be another very close game, just

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01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: like it has been with these jit.

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Speaker 3: Greig is right though.

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01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,759
Speaker 2: The Jets are having trouble even running the football because

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01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 2: Breece Hall has not hit more than fifty yards in

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01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 2: each of his last four games on the ground. That's

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 2: saying something knowing his big playability. That means he's not

1351
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 2: even getting a crack to exploit. So it's something to

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01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: keep an eye on and hopefully that continues on Sunday

1353
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 2: against Buffalo's defense. Let's get back to the phones here

1354
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: on an obl Friday fan mail bag, we go to

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Speaker 2: Dennis in Lockport.

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Speaker 3: Next, what do you have for as Dennis?

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01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 12: Hi, guys, I love your show, first time caller. Back

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01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 12: to the previous statement, mister Tasker, we saw what you

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01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 12: did on the field. That's why we still buy number

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01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 12: eighty nine. And I always said, if you could get

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01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 12: eleven guys in the field, or a team of guys

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01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 12: that would play with the heart determination of Steve Tasker,

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01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 12: you'd been wearing a lot of Super Bowl rings. Anyways,

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Speaker 12: to my question is about the defense. Those are five

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01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 12: and five, the three of the wins were the definite wins.

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Speaker 12: The other two came right down with the wire. At

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01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 12: the same token, the Bills could be undefeated this year.

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01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 12: They were so close. At the same time they could

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01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 12: beat three wins and seven losses. Those games were so close,

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Speaker 12: and we praise our defense, But my question is to

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Speaker 12: the defensive coordinators, do they change their defensive scheming when

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Speaker 12: it gets down to one minute and a half, because

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01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 12: every one of those losses we can't stop them in

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01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 12: that minute and a half. They go right down the field.

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01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 12: The Giants did it, but then they misplayed it and

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01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 12: didn't win. New England did it against us. Cincinnati did

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01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 12: it against us in that last minute and a half.

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01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 12: Our defense can't put a stop out when they've done

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01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 12: it the entire game beforehand because they kept the score

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01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 12: so low. Okay, there you go.

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Speaker 2: So I will tell you, Dennis, the one common thread

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01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 2: in all those games you referenced. The Bills offense struggled,

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01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 2: if not for the whole game, for long stretches of it.

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01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 2: And in most of those games, special teams had a

1385
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 2: difficult time flipping the field and giving Buffalo's defense good

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01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,879
Speaker 2: field position, in other words, a long field to defend

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01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 2: and then on top of that, with the offensive struggles

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01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 2: not being able to stay on the field, not finishing

1389
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: drives with points, the time of possession for the opponent

1390
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 2: stretched into the thirty five to thirty eight and in

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01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 2: one case, forty minute range. So now your defense is

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01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 2: on the field for thirty five, thirty eight sometimes forty

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01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 2: minutes in a sixty minute football game. Tell me how

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01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 2: good you're playing after you've been on the field for

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01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: seventy plays and you've held that team down on the

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01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 2: scoreboard to keep it a one score game.

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Speaker 1: Right, And then at the end of those in those

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01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: two minutes in like this Denver Bronco game this last week,

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01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 1: it's a sprint to the finish. So you're dead tired,

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01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you got to you know,

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01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: you got to sprint it in with a two minute,

1402
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: no huddle kind of hurry up, high intensity defensive series

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01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: where you're at your injury depleted and yeah, and you

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01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: got a bunch of guys out there that weren't there

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01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the game. So yeah, it certainly

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01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 1: that's what they sign up for, and you expect them

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01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: to perform into those in those situations, But you know

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01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: if they do, if the Bill's offense can keep it.

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01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 1: We thought this all off season, and it sounds crazy

1410
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 1: to say it now, but we were saying, if they

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01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: can cut down and their turnovers in half and not

1412
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: get so many penalties, this team's going to be really

1413
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: hard to beat. And man oh man, it's being proven

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01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: big time this season. But they cannot. They're not stopping

1415
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 1: the turnovers. That's a crusher for the defense over over

1416
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: the long haul of the game, you know, the big

1417
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: picture of a game. So this complimentary football thing is real,

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01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 1: and nobody really and I've said it before, nobody really

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01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: cares if the Bills turn it over a bunch. If

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01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: they're scoring thirty a game, Like if they hang thirty

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01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 1: four points up on the Jets, nobody's gonna care if

1422
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: they turn it over three times.

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01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 3: But if they don't, but.

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01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 1: If they don't score thirties are magnified the turnover. The

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01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 1: turnovers are the reason they don't, you know. So that's

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01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: it's a problem that has to be addressed.

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01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 3: Break time for us. Here more of your phone calls.

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01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 2: When we return at eight oh three oh five fifty

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01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 2: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty got

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01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: some open lines for you. We'll a lead off with

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Speaker 2: Cynthia when we return here. On One Bill's Live, presented

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01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 2: by Klida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 3: We're gonna hit.

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01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 2: You with a little tailgate Friday, presented by high Mark,

1435
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: Blue Cross, Blue Shield, the official healthcare plan of the Buffalo.

1436
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 2: Bill's got to know what's on your menu for the

1437
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 2: tailgates on Sunday. And first up, as Andrew, who says,

1438
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: go in Italian.

1439
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 3: For the game.

1440
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 2: Sounds good to me. Megan spaghetti and meatballs with homemade

1441
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 2: garlic bread going to be good. I like when people

1442
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 2: not only give you what they're cooking, they're promising.

1443
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 3: You it's gonna be special.

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01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 2: They haven't even put it in the boiling water yet,

1445
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be good.

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01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 3: Let's go.

1447
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 2: Buffalo Jack says, think I'm whipping up my homemade spicy

1448
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 2: mustard dial dip for pretzels. He's got split pretzels. If

1449
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 2: you've ever had him, you gotta try. I get the

1450
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 2: partially burnt ones. I was introduced to those by one

1451
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 2: Mark Kelso and they are very good. And making some

1452
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 2: beer brown sugar Sauer Kraut to make New York style

1453
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,919
Speaker 2: dirty water dogs with hot mustard and onions.

1454
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 3: Maybe some chili sauce if I have time. Now you're

1455
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 3: speaking my language. You get a dirty water now you're cooking?

1456
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the just throw the dogs in the or

1457
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 1: as they.

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01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 2: Would say in New York, dirty waters dirty let's how

1459
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 2: you say it. Yeah, okay, brown sugar, sour kraut.

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01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,879
Speaker 3: I have not had that. I had slash beer.

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01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: Because it was a night game last Monday, I got

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01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 1: a chance to have marinated shrimp skewers and spicy Italian

1463
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: patties on a bun with provol Oh my gosh, it

1464
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: was so good.

1465
01:17:58,400 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 3: What were they marinated in?

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01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:01,640
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I didn't know. I just ate

1467
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: like probably a secret recipe.

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01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 3: I don't care. Just give me some.

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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lie. My son did him on old grill

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01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: right there in the right here and right in front

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01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: of the field house. It was they were awesome.

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01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 2: Man, You you win, all right? So that is Tailgate Friday.

1473
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 2: Some of the recipes people are cooking up.

1474
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 3: So that's good.

1475
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 2: Then we have Steve Collision Course and uh Collision Course. Steve,

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01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 2: Oh boy, is brought to you by Gabe's Collision Gabe's

1477
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,759
Speaker 2: collision the official auto collision repair center of the Buffalo

1478
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 2: Bills get back in the game, and we have selected

1479
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 2: one Leonard Floyd, who I think, even despite his exploits

1480
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 2: on the field, has gone somewhat under the radar. He

1481
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 2: has put together a very disruptive season for Buffalo's pass rush,

1482
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 2: So he is our collision course. With the Jets offensive line,

1483
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 2: we're anticipating with Billy Turner out who has spelled the

1484
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 2: right tackle position for them for the last couple of weeks,

1485
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 2: that Max Mitchell will now have to kick out there.

1486
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 2: Their fourth round pick from last year's draft. He has

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01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 2: played tackle before, but he's been in a guard of

1488
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 2: laid filling in for Elijah Vera Tucker. Now he has

1489
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 2: to kick it back outside. Are we expecting a feast

1490
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 2: for the ages knowing Leonard Floyd was the guy that

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01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 2: put Aaron Rodgers on injured reserve.

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01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that. I think that's the side of

1493
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: the ball. That's the whole key Jets offense running game

1494
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 1: against the Bills front seven. That's gonna be the winner

1495
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: lose because the Jets are gonna have to score a

1496
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: something they haven't scored in thirty six drives. It's been

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01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: eleven quarchdowns, touchdowns, it's been eleven quarters of football and

1498
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 1: all they've had to settle they all have gotten with

1499
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 1: some field goals. That that has to change for them.

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01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: But Buffalo, I mean, Buffalo's playing good upfront. Their defense

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01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: has been salting and if the Bills don't turn it

1502
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: over and the Bills defense stays fresh, that's going to

1503
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: be the difference. Yeah, I think you're right. Leonard Floyd

1504
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: has been a huge guy and Ed Oliver after signing

1505
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: a big extension, people are going, well, I don't know,

1506
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: he's playing the best football of his career. We noted it.

1507
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: He was invigorated by the faith that the club showed

1508
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: in him by giving him a four year extension for

1509
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: big money, and he has played lights out. He leads

1510
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: all defensive tackles in the NFL in pressure rate, so

1511
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: when he's in he gets pressure on the quarterback at

1512
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: a higher rate than any other defensive tackle in football.

1513
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: So that matchup up front on that side of the

1514
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: ball is the key for the Bills.

1515
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 2: Leonard Floyd had one and a half sacks in the

1516
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 2: first meeting against the Jets. If he gets one and

1517
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 2: a half sacks or more on Sunday.

1518
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 3: Listen to this one, Steve.

1519
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 2: He's going to be the first Bills defensive lineman with

1520
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 2: multiple sacks in both games against a division opponent in

1521
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:03,520
Speaker 2: the Jets. That's since Bruce Smith, oh goodness.

1522
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety.

1523
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 2: It's the last time a pass rusher for the Bills

1524
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 2: had multiple sacks in both games against the Jets.

1525
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 1: Pretty crazy, Yeah crazy? Uh.

1526
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 2: Big news coming out of Cincinnati courtesy of NFL Networks

1527
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 2: Ian Rappaport.

1528
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 3: Quarterback Joe Burrow is out for the.

1529
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:25,839
Speaker 2: Season with a torn ligament. According to head coach Zach Taylor.

1530
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,839
Speaker 2: That is what the MRI revealed this morning. Jake Browning

1531
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 2: is now your starting quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals for

1532
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 2: the rest of the way. So, as Steve pointed out earlier,

1533
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals ahead of the Bills backup quarterback, Cleveland Browns

1534
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 2: ahead of the Bills backup quarterback. Indianapolis Colts ahead of

1535
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: the Bills backup quarterback.

1536
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Las Vegas Raiders.

1537
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,759
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders ahead of the Bills backup quarterback. Although

1538
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 2: the Bills have the head to head tie breaker on the.

1539
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: Los Fake Cincinnati, Indianapolis Houston with a rookie quarterback.

1540
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 3: They're five and that guy's pretty damn good, and he's

1541
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 3: pretty good.

1542
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 1: He's playing really well. He's in the MVP conversation right now. Yeah. Well,

1543
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: let's pump the brakes on that.

1544
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 2: Ye, yes, let's get to the phones though. At eight

1545
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 2: oh three, five point fifty and to Cynthia in Niagara Falls,

1546
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: what do you got for Cynthia?

1547
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 13: Hi, I was just wondering, guys, if you have an

1548
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 13: opinion that if the Bill hired a defensive coordinator, if

1549
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 13: coach McDermott could maybe pay more attention to the entire team.

1550
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 3: Back to being just a head coach. I mean right, correct?

1551
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, Yeah, I think that that has some merit, Cynthia,

1552
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 2: And I think it will be a consideration based on

1553
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 2: how this season finishes, because I think we know how

1554
01:22:56,040 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 2: coach McDermott operates. He's very methodical, he is very detail oriented.

1555
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 2: He leaves no stone unturned in his evaluation of the

1556
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 2: team and in his own self evaluation. So I think

1557
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 2: he will evaluate how this season went with him handling

1558
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 2: both duties and if it's his opinion that he can

1559
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 2: serve as a better head coach and he believes he

1560
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 2: can find someone to call defensive plays to be just

1561
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 2: as effective as he is in that role, then I

1562
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 2: think he would make that move. But there are a

1563
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 2: lot of variables in that. I think he's going to

1564
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 2: try to navigate his way through each and every one

1565
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 2: of them. But if he comes to that conclusion, I

1566
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 2: will tell you unequivocally, there is not too much pride

1567
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 2: or ego in Sean McDermott to make that move, right.

1568
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: I think that's where it's going to come down to.

1569
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: They'll do it. He's not going to do it now, No,

1570
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: during the regular season, but at the end of this

1571
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: season it may be enticing for him to go back

1572
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: to getting a defensive coordinator and just doing the head

1573
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:02,759
Speaker 1: coaching role. Yeah, every year is different, and this one's

1574
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 1: no is also unique in its own way. And the

1575
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: injuries that they've gotten to that side of the ball,

1576
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: it's his how his staff has handled it, the changing

1577
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators. There's a lot of moving parts, and I

1578
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: don't think, Yeah, I don't think that's on the radar

1579
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: at the moment, but it will be. For sure. They'll

1580
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 1: reevaluate and he'll and it may come down to, like

1581
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: Brownie said, the guy's available. He may not like or

1582
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: know any of the guys, the top guys or whatever

1583
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 1: well enough, or they may not be available to hire.

1584
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 3: Let's go to Bob and Newfane next.

1585
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: What do you got first, Bob, I'm an old.

1586
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 12: Guy and I don't understand some of these new terms

1587
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 12: they're using, the main thing being twelve man, I love

1588
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 12: a man and ten man formations. I don't have a

1589
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 12: clue what those guys are talking about.

1590
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 11: Ould fill me in.

1591
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

1592
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 2: So it's called those are called the personnel groupings, and

1593
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 2: it's basically they count some of the skill position players

1594
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 2: on the feet. It starts with the backs in the backfield.

1595
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 2: So if you have, for example, ten personnel, you've got

1596
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 2: one back in the backfield.

1597
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: That stands for the one in ten.

1598
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: Right the ones column. The zero in the number ten

1599
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 2: is for the number of tight ends you have on

1600
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 2: the field.

1601
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 3: Zero.

1602
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 2: So if you have only one back and no tight

1603
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,520
Speaker 2: ends on the field, that is called ten personnel.

1604
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 3: It also means you have four wide receivers.

1605
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: Right, There's that The numbers add up to five, but

1606
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: they don't say the third number. So whatever's left out

1607
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: of the five is always understood to be the rest

1608
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: of them are wide receivers. So it's one back, zero

1609
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: tight ends, three wide or four wide receivers. That's ten

1610
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 1: person that's temper twenty three personnel would be two backs,

1611
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 1: three tight ends, zero wide receivers, because two and three

1612
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 1: add up to five. Twelve personnel is one back, two

1613
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: tight end, eleven and you're right, eleven is one back,

1614
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: one tight end, and three and then you get like

1615
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 1: twenty one personnel, two backs, one tight end, and two wideouts.

1616
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: So that's the old style football with a half back,

1617
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: full back, and a tight end.

1618
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 2: That's how the personnel groupings have been identified for a

1619
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 2: long time, and they're still used today.

1620
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: I'm glad, Bob because we get every once in while

1621
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 1: somebody at calls in and asks like, well, how do

1622
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: they what is that?

1623
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 3: And that's what's how it works.

1624
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 1: They named the running back number first, then the tight

1625
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: end and whatever's left. That's how many wide receivers you have.

1626
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 3: To add up to five.

1627
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 2: Got to take a break, but we've got time to

1628
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 2: fill in a couple of more phone calls when we

1629
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 2: come back here on one Bill's Live, Stay tuned Vision

1630
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,519
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1631
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 2: care provider of the Buffalo Bills, and.

1632
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 3: I think this one's a pretty simple one.

1633
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 2: You have to neutralize bris Hall very simply put, you

1634
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 2: neutralize brise Hall, you beat the Jets.

1635
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 3: Basically, through the course.

1636
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 2: Of this season, he has averaged one hundred and thirty

1637
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: two yards from scrimmage in the team's four victories. He

1638
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 2: has averaged forty eight total yards from scrimmage in their

1639
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 2: five losses. Now, to put that in perspective, it's been

1640
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 2: seventy five or fewer yards in a game total yards

1641
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:34,839
Speaker 2: from scrimmage in all the losses, and it's been ninety

1642
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 2: plus total yards from scrimmage in all of the Jets wins.

1643
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 2: You neutralize bris Hall, you put yourself in excellent position

1644
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: to win. Obviously, you don't want to turn the ball over,

1645
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 2: which has been a persistent problem for the Bills too,

1646
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 2: but the defensive vision to victory. You got to slow

1647
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 2: down Breese Hall to win the game. Let's get back

1648
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 2: to the phone to try to squeeze a couple more

1649
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 2: calls in as best we can. Let's go to Robin Hamburg,

1650
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: who's been waiting the longest. What he got for us rep.

1651
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, how you doing today?

1652
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: Well?

1653
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 11: Good? You know, I guess I'm talking about our head

1654
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:12,879
Speaker 11: coach here. I'm just so disappointed that the organization slash

1655
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 11: NFL would put you know, both the defensive coordinator's job

1656
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 11: and the head coach on you know, on him thinking

1657
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 11: that he's going to be perfect at you know, every

1658
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 11: angle he can be, And I think that is interrupted,

1659
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 11: uh you know, are playing and is messed with the team.

1660
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 11: Along with you know, Hammeling getting hurt. We have declined

1661
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:35,600
Speaker 11: since that.

1662
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,600
Speaker 2: I think there are other things at play besides the

1663
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 2: dual role being taken on by coach McDermot. At least

1664
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 2: in my opinion, I think the injuries have decimated the

1665
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 2: defensive unit.

1666
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 3: Last week you were out.

1667
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 2: You were without the five starters out of the eleven

1668
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 2: that began the season in Week one, two of which

1669
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 2: are all pro and they're lost for the season. You

1670
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 2: should get won maybe two of them back this week

1671
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 2: and Micah Hyde and Christian Benford. We'll have to wait

1672
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 2: and see. And then the offensive problems that have plagued

1673
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 2: this team for the better part of the last six

1674
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 2: or seven weeks really don't have a whole lot to

1675
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 2: do with McDermott's duties as defensive coordinator. So I guess

1676
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 2: you could say, as the head coach overseeing it, he's

1677
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:24,759
Speaker 2: got to oversee it better.

1678
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 3: And we'll see.

1679
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,919
Speaker 2: Maybe he makes that decision in the offseason to relinquish

1680
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator duties. Not sure it's going to happen

1681
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 2: this season. We'll see on Monday at noon. Wrapping up

1682
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 2: this game.

1683
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 3: Enjoy it.