1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: So Michael Varry Show is on the air. 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 3: Nearly a twenty point margin for Toke over Crenshaw. Remember 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: Crenshaw the only Republican without Trump's endorsement, incumbent in the 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 3: House side in Texas and starting to look like he 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: needed it. 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, why not? Don't let us trade stocks? About 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: how about we'll just keep whipping ourselves. Let how about 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: we don't make any money either, how about like just 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: cut our paychecks. Haven't got a pay raise since two 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, even a colon increase. So yeah, actually, no, yeah, 12 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: this is a great idea. Let's make Congress a place 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: where only the millionaires can execute it forward. 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: And do the job as wonderful. There's no reason to 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: kick somebody when they're down on the Democrat side. Very 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: interesting developments. I desperately, desperately, desperately hoped that Jasmine Crockett 17 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: would win that primary, and it did not happen. She 18 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: did far better than perhaps she should have, given what 19 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: an idiot she is. But that's a representation of where 20 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 2: the Democrat Party is. A black woman who intentionally acts 21 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: far more stupid than she actually is, and by the way, 22 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: that aunt esther impersonation. That's not who she is. I'm 23 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 2: not saying she's going to light the world on fire 24 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: on an IQ test. She's not mensa, but she's not 25 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: the dumb bitch she pretends to be. She's not. If 26 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: you saw last night, she did some interviews where she 27 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: dropped the whole on esther persona, and then I saw 28 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: it at one point ten minutes later go right back 29 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: into it where she can't conjugate her be verb. It's 30 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: It's a very cynical thing to watch, and it tells 31 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: you a lot about where the Democrat Party is when 32 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: you see it. Uh oh, I'm sorry. I said i'd 33 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: go to this call first. All right, we'll come back. 34 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: I I want to talk about the Democrats and what 35 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: they learned last night, including a niece porker not making 36 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: the runoff or not not winning outright, which was a surprise. 37 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: Marty Earl Michael Berry show, go ahead. 38 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 4: Oh God bless you, mister Barry. I would just laughing. 39 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 4: I'm you're comments about miss Crockett. I've been busting my 40 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 4: butt up here. I'm seventy three years old on this 41 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 4: metcalf mouth beeast guy and I just watch. You know something, Well, 42 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 4: first of all, the first time I ever heard about 43 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: that corruption in the House was on your program. How 44 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 4: they detracted from the Republicans and go over to the Democrats. 45 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 4: And that got me involved in all this stuff. Yep, 46 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: I just watched you know. I'm my wife and I've 47 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 4: been working is from my first rodeo in the parking lots, 48 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 4: sweating to death, ready to die. And I'm going to 49 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 4: tell you something. We had a big win last night. 50 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 4: And the reason we have and I appreciate your mentioning 51 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 4: mister Bouchet, we fought hard for him. Listen, it was 52 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 4: not a loss. We only have fifteen points. He jumped 53 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: in the race late. We had a victory because we 54 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 4: had precinct chairs that censored mister Metcalf and Caesar Bell. 55 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 4: A million dollars came into this campaign and Caesar Bell 56 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: has been not elected. Kristin Plissance is going to be 57 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: the new state representative. Thank god. Now we don't have 58 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: mister Metcalf is done in this county. 59 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: Okay. 60 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: Now, when we were out there doing the campaign and 61 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: I had one of these folks come up there and 62 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 4: tell me we're just going to spit on you now 63 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: that I found out later, I didn't know who this 64 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 4: girl was. She was actually a family member of the 65 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: Metcalf people out there. It was a dirty race, and 66 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you this is just the beginning 67 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: of the campaign here in Montgomery County. 68 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: It ain't she. 69 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: Well, noan the crout. We tried to get away from 70 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 4: this woman. Wow, she's crazy, but you know, suffice it 71 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: to say, we Gwen win throw. There was big money 72 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 4: coming in here and Gwen Withrow won against this guy 73 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: that h Scott Baker, who was part of the Metcalf 74 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: mouth piece machine. Those people had millions of bucks being spent. 75 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: John was always the underdog, and he jumped in the 76 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: race late. The fact that he got as much as 77 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 4: he did is unbelievable. It's only motivated the troops. All 78 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 4: of the people in the parking lots are not paid. 79 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 4: I had there were convicted sellings agitators that were hired 80 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 4: by the Metcalf folks, people getting paid twenty two dollars 81 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 4: an hour. The people on the grass roots level that 82 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 4: are going to continue I call them the quiet warriors, 83 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 4: all right, and I God bless every one of them. 84 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: You're going to see these trips grow like you ain't 85 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: ever seen before. And and I got a word from 86 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: mister Metcalf Pinocchio. Okay, you're going to see that word 87 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 4: on signs all over this county and you're gonna find 88 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: his campaign was let's make line wrong again. We always 89 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 4: knew line was wrong. Mister Metcalf's the guy that didn't. 90 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: So let me just say, you know, you tell them 91 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 4: a little bit excited, But I'm only excited to be 92 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 4: on Michael Berry Show because he's the guy that let 93 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 4: me know about how this all corruption was going on 94 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 4: up there to begin with. 95 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: It's very kind of you to say, Marty, I'm I'm 96 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: glad guys like you get involved because we cannot leave 97 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: the process to the insiders. We need people like you 98 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: to get a little fire in the belly and get 99 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: stoked and get involved, and that scares the process terribly. 100 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: Y'all are the radicals that John Cornyn was talking about 101 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: yesterday that if the radicals show up then he wouldn't win. Well, 102 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: I'd like him to tell tell us who the radicals are, 103 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: because when he's campaigning, a lot of what he claims 104 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: he is is the agenda of the radicals, but he 105 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: showed he thought he was going to lose without a runoff. 106 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: That's what the inside fear was. They thought they were 107 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: going to get that Paxton was going to get fifty 108 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: point one percent, and that when they wounded Wesley Hunt 109 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: the way they did, throwing all that money just trying 110 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: to destroy that man, that those votes would go over 111 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: to Paxton. What ended up happening is a lot of 112 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: those folks stayed home. We did have Now I got 113 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: to verify this. The problem is some of these things 114 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: I read at three or four o'clock in the morning. 115 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: But we did have I believe, greater turnout last night 116 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: in the Republican primary than we had in twenty two, 117 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: which is the last midterm, and twenty four, which is 118 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 2: a presidential election. If in fact that's true, this was 119 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: a pretty amazing election result. Now it's not being talked 120 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: about that way because what people are comparing it to 121 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: is the Democrat turnout, which was also astoundingly high. But 122 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: that's for a different reason. Democrats were not excited. They 123 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: did not have races that thrilled them. Democrats showed up 124 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: because they're mad at Trump. And remember in twenty ten, 125 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: we showed up because we were mad at Obama. That's 126 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: how these things work. The party that's out of power, 127 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: their people are energized and they show up and vote. 128 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: The party that is in power has a tendency to 129 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: stay home. So if our people turned out in those 130 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: record numbers, that is a very good sign. It also 131 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: tells you that people are tired of the swamp. People 132 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: are tired that Cornyin and some others represented the swamp, 133 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: and that people showed up up to defeat that. As 134 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: for so Cecil Bell did lose, that's a big deal. 135 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: I mean that is a big deal beating and incumbent, 136 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: and I'm happy to see it. And I think every 137 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: state rep. Look after what happened to drunk Dave, those 138 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: people need to realize you need to stop letting TLR 139 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: these other organizations tell you what to do, because it's 140 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: going to get your ass beat. Michael Berry show to 141 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: the Punel line. We go, Gay Dave, You're up, Go. 142 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: Ahead, Hey, Michael's just calling a gloat. 143 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 5: My Congressman Dan Crenshaw has lost his race. And even 144 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 5: though I got redistricted and I get to vote for 145 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 5: uh Meeler again, I'm really. 146 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 4: Happy this morning. So congrats to Steve to. 147 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: Us right on, okay, thank you. Further to that point, 148 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: somebody asked me why I was not dancing on the 149 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: political grave of Dan Crenshaw, and I, look, I don't 150 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: want to get all sappy, but I considered Dan Crenshaw 151 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: of a good friend. It was a transactional friendship in 152 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: that we met during a campaign. I was asked to 153 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: support him by some people did I care deeply about 154 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: and that I like, And I did support him, and 155 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: I believed he could be not only a very good congressman, 156 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: I believed that he could be a leader on a 157 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 2: national level of some note. I believed that his war 158 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: wound was a constant reminder of the kind of things 159 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: we deal with a Camp Hope, or the kind of 160 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: things that sort the kind of things that Camp Hope 161 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: deals with on a daily basis, and that is that 162 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: when you go to war, it's more than just shock 163 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: and awe. There are people who will pay for this 164 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: for the rest of their lives. And I felt that 165 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: was a very powerful reminder, a visual reminder. That's why 166 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: I have never been in favor of the pirate jokes 167 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: or the ipatch McCain or any other joke. I don't 168 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: think it's funny that he lost an eye. I never 169 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: have and I never will any more than I would 170 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: think it was funny that someone lost an arm or 171 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: a leg or anything else. I understand we make jokes 172 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: about things that make us uncomfortable, but I that always 173 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 2: bothered me, and it always will. He almost lost his 174 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: other eye a few years ago. Wasn't widely reported. It 175 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: was reported a little bit, and he could be completely blind, 176 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: and I can't imagine that. But in any case, that aside, 177 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: I worked very hard, and with your support, we got 178 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: him over the finish line, just barely. We were in 179 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: third place, and there was a lot of money being 180 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: spent by Kathleen wall Pew. She lost. She rans for 181 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: State Rep last night and lost again. That poor woman. 182 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: She just wants to be elected to something. Anyway. I 183 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: have regrets because I think Kevin Roberts would have been 184 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: a very good congressman. But I believed in Crenshaw, and 185 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: when I believe in someone, I will work my tail 186 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: off to get there. And you did as well, and 187 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: a lot of people worked very hard to get him 188 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: into Congress in very short order. After that, it was 189 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: clear that it was too much, and it was too 190 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: much in the way. I don't know if kids do this. 191 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: You know, when Michael t went off to UT i'd 192 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: been preparing him for college for years and I had 193 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: told him stories and I had introduced him to friends 194 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: of mine who had gone off to college and blew 195 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: up that first year. They never went to class, they 196 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: got kicked out. I don't see young people do that anymore, 197 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: and I don't know why, but that is something we 198 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: had been talking about since he was probably ten years old. 199 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 2: Crocketton second half of a senior year, and we talk 200 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: about this daily. All Right, here are going to be 201 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: the temptations that are going to come your way. Here 202 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 2: are going to be the distractions. Here are going to 203 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: be the paths that good people take and fail that 204 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: I don't want. You need to know that's coming before 205 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: it arrives, so you go up. That's what Dad told 206 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: me about. I think he got to Washington, d C. 207 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: The Pete Davidson thing happened very early, and it really 208 00:12:53,160 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: caused him to get an overnight sensation popularity. We were 209 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: talking constantly during that time and I was happy for it. 210 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: I was not angry Pete Davidson said what he said 211 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: because that was an opportunity for Crenshaw to really really 212 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: show off, and it's hard to get any oxygen in 213 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: DC as a newcomer. He was not the kind of 214 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: guy to be a backbencher and put in the time 215 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: and grind and get to the top. And then I 216 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,599 Speaker 2: just started getting reports of things he was saying and 217 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: things he was doing, and I told him that, and 218 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: I told him that to the point that I finally 219 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: wrote a very long message and said, I need you 220 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 2: to understand I am no longer your supporter. I am 221 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: disappointed in what you've done, and you've crossed a line 222 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: that I don't think you can get back, and you 223 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: really need to look in the mirror and check your 224 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: ego and change course, because you have lost focus of 225 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: what got you to Congress and your mission and the 226 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: views of your constituents, to which he responded, are you drunk? 227 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: And I thought, well, I read this again last night. 228 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: I went back to review every text we've ever had, 229 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: and at the time I was getting ready, I was 230 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: going to do a half marathon. My wife was pushing 231 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: me to do a half marathon. This was in twenty 232 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: twenty September twenty fifth, twenty twenty, and she wanted me 233 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: to do the half marathon in January. And you know, 234 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: your wife gets this sort of you know, wouldn't it 235 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: be cute thing? You don't want to say no, I'm lazy. 236 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: But I had said I would and she's a marathoner, 237 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: so we were running every day. And so that's incompatible 238 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: with drinking or in that matter. What's worse. I can 239 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: stop drinking. I do for long periods of time. What's 240 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: very hard for me to stop is smoking. I love 241 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: my cigars. I don't need a lecture. Please don't email me. 242 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: And so he said, are you drunk? And I said no, 243 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I'm preparing for And I 244 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: saw my text last night I said I'm preparing for 245 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: a marathon. And I read through every message that we 246 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: had had during that period of time, and the whole time, 247 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: I'm thinking he has the same thread because he posted. 248 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: He knows that we had all these conversations. So for 249 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: him to say I don't know why Michael Berry doesn't 250 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: support me, it's because I didn't spend money, it's very odd. 251 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: I know that he looks at that knowing that he's 252 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: lying and knowing that he knows he's lying, and I'm 253 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: reading through that. But there was one thing I said 254 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: to him that I regret, and not the that you 255 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: wasted that money. You should have spent it on iHeart. 256 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: I believe that. By the way, I do believe he 257 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: should have been spending it on iHeart. I don't make 258 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: a penny off that. That's not how I get paid. 259 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: I've told you this, but I do think you should 260 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: have been spending on iHeart. If you don't think that 261 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: our listeners affect the elections, look at last night, he 262 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: should look what he does now. He should have been 263 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: spending on iHeart. But the only thing that I said 264 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: in that exchange it made me uncomfortable, the only thing, 265 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: and it bothered me. It still bothers me this moment. 266 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 4: I know what's your name to say, Michael Buddy. 267 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: To finish the statement, I reviewed my text exchanges with 268 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: Dan Crenshaw last night. There hasn't been one since I 269 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: think twenty twenty one, and I did not reveal these 270 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: at the time, as I said, because I think it's 271 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: a bitch move among friends to go posting text exchanges. 272 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: For almost every friend I have, there is something I've 273 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 2: said or they've said that if you were to post it, 274 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: you'd say, y'all are monsters. Or we make every kind 275 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: of joke you can imagine, and we have fun with it. 276 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: And I will tell you the worst are my black friends, 277 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: because they have no barriers and they will say things 278 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: that if you ever saw, you'd go, oh my god. 279 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 2: That's what friends do. There's trust. Humor is especially because 280 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: my style of humor is absurdism. My wife doesn't get it, 281 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: but you know some of it. The person who's the 282 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: worst or best or most active at it is Chance MacLean. 283 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: And you say things that are so ridiculous and so 284 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 2: absurd that they're un thinkable. And that's the humor, and 285 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: that's hard for people to understand. It's kind of a 286 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: cross between kind of a money python and Tony Hinchcliffe 287 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: and maybe Richard Pryor. But it's not for everybody. And 288 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 2: so I don't think those. I think there's a trust 289 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: when you text, and even if the friendship goes sour 290 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: or the political transactional relationship goes sour, you don't expose 291 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: those and that's why I did not in my defense, 292 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: I also did not in my defense because I'm not 293 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: on the ballot, and I think that unfortunately for him, 294 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: his people, who I know very well, one of whom 295 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: worked on my campaigns going back twenty five years ago, 296 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: and I know all their people, most of their people, 297 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: and they they had internal numbers that were showing that 298 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: the things we were saying were hurting him badly. Among 299 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: his voters, most of him knew him, most of whom 300 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 2: knew him when we introduced him to them. He's not 301 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: a person that had name id or deep relationships that 302 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 2: was not his. He came out of nowhere, so it 303 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: was kind of an overnight sensation that was not deep. 304 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: He did not nurture those relationships, quite the opposite, and 305 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: it kept going down and there was a slow burn 306 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: on the on the blowback on him. You can go 307 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: back whether it was two years or four years ago 308 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: and look at the challenger who had over I think 309 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: it was a Jamison that had over forty percent of 310 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: the vote and didn't spend any money. That's that's your 311 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: sign that you're in trouble. That's you. You can spend 312 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 2: all the money in the world calling your opponent nasty name, 313 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: that's a bad sign. So in any case, of those 314 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: text exchanges, there was one thing I did that I'm 315 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: a little I'm looking in the mirror and saying is 316 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 2: a little bit sketchy. I wrote. The problem is I 317 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: do voice to text, and I have a tendency where 318 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: you listen, I have a tendency to repeat myself. So 319 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: rather than make a point and move on, which I 320 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: would do if I'm writing, I can be a very 321 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: succinct and direct writer, but when I talk, I have 322 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 2: a tendency to get into this flow and kind of 323 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 2: a Jesse Jackson repetition pattern, John F. Kennedy repetition pattern. 324 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: And it doesn't come off well when you look at 325 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: it a day or two later, and it and because 326 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: so many words get misspelled, because it's voice detect and 327 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: I don't go back and look at it. Yeah, it 328 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: can look a little funny, but everybody who knows me 329 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: knows that I do this. 330 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 4: And so. 331 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 2: The one thing I say that I'm not sure of 332 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 2: that that can't hold up is that he said I 333 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 2: wrote him a long message, and I basically said, I 334 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: hear from precinct chairman, I hear from activists, I hear 335 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 2: from lobbyists, I hear from your colleagues. I literally hear 336 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: from everyone, and the number one thing they bring up 337 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: is that you've gone, You've wandered off the reservation, that 338 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 2: you are out of control, you are arrogant and obnoxious, 339 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: and that somebody needs to talk to you about it. 340 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 2: And I guess I'm the only one who cares enough 341 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 2: about you to do so. So now I've done it, 342 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: I'm walking away. We're never talking again, and use this 343 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: as a learning list. That's what I said, and in 344 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: so many words plus ten. But that's what I said. 345 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: But one thing I said, which was sketchy. He responded 346 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: to that, and I said it about three or four 347 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: different ways when he would ask questions and give me 348 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: the name of someone who said that, I'm not going 349 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: to do that. If they wanted you to know their name, 350 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: they would have said it to you. Do you think 351 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: I'm making it up? What do I have to gain? 352 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: And as I said, I thought you might be president 353 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 2: one day. I was willing to work to help you 354 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: get there, not now. But none of this matters. The 355 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: sketchy part. I'm gonna be full confession here is he said, 356 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 2: after about the third time of this, Are you drunk? 357 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: Why are you saying this to me, Why are you 358 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: criticizing me like this? Are you drunk? And I said, 359 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 2: I am not. I am not drinking right now because 360 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: my words exactly, I am preparing to run a marathon. Okay, 361 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: I was never preparing to run a marathon. I was 362 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: at most preparing to run a half marathon, right. I 363 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: read that about five times and I said, well, maybe 364 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: the half didn't make it. Its void to text. Mm hmm. 365 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 2: I don't believe that. Maybe sometimes I'm distracted while I'm 366 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: talking doing voice to text. I don't know. I think 367 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: full disclosure, I think I might have exaggerated. I think 368 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: that in my mind at that point, I was trying 369 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: to make my point that you have got to change 370 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: your ways. You've got to fix this problem. You've I 371 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: got to shake you out of this this ego maniacal 372 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: trance you're in. And to prove the point if you 373 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: think I'm saying this because I've been drinking, by the way, 374 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: the second time we've had this round of conversations. The 375 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: other one was in the afternoon. But as a matter, 376 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: if you think I have had no I haven't, and 377 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: let me prove it. I'm preparing for a marathon. I 378 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: was preparing for a half marathon which I didn't run, 379 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 2: and I feel like that's a bit of a bestive. 380 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, there's you know what I mean? 381 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 2: It's uh when I don't look at you. When Marcus 382 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: Latrell was finishing his forty day fast and he lost 383 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: fifty pounds, somebody asked me, you think he's ever Actually 384 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: a no, that's just it. If Marcus had had had 385 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: a moment of weakness on day twenty two and eaten something, 386 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 2: he would tell you that that's just that is it 387 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: is that important to him that when he says I 388 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: did a forty day fast, he's not exaggerating. You can 389 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 2: take that to the bank. And I feel like I 390 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: might have been fudging a little bit for effect there. 391 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 2: Other than that, I have no regrets. Am I happy? No, 392 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: I'm not happy. That's you know. I think Steve top 393 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: would do a great job. I'm happy for Steve. I 394 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: think the district will be better off all of those same. No, 395 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: I'm not happy for for Data. I hope, I hope. 396 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 2: I hope he fixes what all went wrong in his 397 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: life and goes on to happen. I genuinely do. The 398 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: funny thing is, Jeffrey Lynn wrote this. It's not a cover. 399 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 2: This is ELO's version. Everybody John versions, everybody knows and 400 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: that's them. Scene back every el O song. The vocals 401 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: all sound kind of the same. And I'm okay with that. 402 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: All right, to the phone lines, we go seven one, 403 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: one thousand, trouble You're up, Go ahead. 404 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I just like to say, let's go Brandon 405 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 5: Brandon Herrera, Texas District twenty three. I noticed something that 406 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 5: they they don't want to say his name in the 407 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 5: mainstream media. They referred to him as the opposition candidate 408 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 5: or the opponent. I think that's right. 409 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want to Herrera with an R after it. 410 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: Where do you live. 411 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 5: So I'm not in his district? 412 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: No, no, it doesn't matter. 413 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 5: It doesn't still like him anyhow, Yeah. 414 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: No, no, I think that's that's a His race was Gonzales, right. 415 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 5: Right, Tony Gonzalez the incumbent. A little bit of controversy, 416 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 5: but a little bit. 417 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: You know what's the craziest thing about that, that's an 418 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: understatement of the year. Gonzales. Tony Gonzalez has had has 419 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 2: had some real problems but the the woman that he 420 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: was having an affair with in his office set herself, 421 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: set herself on fire to kill herself. Now, whatever someone 422 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: does in their personal life, you can choose, you know, 423 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: how much that bothers you, whatever else. But it is 424 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: the point at which a person commits suicide takes us 425 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 2: to a whole different level. Because but what's really odd 426 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: about that is when you study the means by which 427 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: people commit suicide, and there is a whole study of 428 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 2: this by criminologists. Women for instance, don't typically quote unquote 429 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: blow their brains that the don't shoot themselves in the 430 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: head because they're more vain. They don't want, they don't want, 431 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: they've worked so hard their entire lives on this on 432 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: a face. Because your beauty is more important to women 433 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: than men. In how you present yourself. It's more important 434 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: to us too, by the way. That's not that they're 435 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: being shallow. But to light yourself on fire as a 436 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: means self immolation is such a powerful statement. You know, 437 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: in the Vietnamese Buddhist monks doing that, that really makes 438 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: such a powerful statement. You cannot be unmoved by that. 439 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 2: When someone does that as a political statement, you know, 440 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: we had this guy a couple of years ago. He 441 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 2: was serving active duty in the military, and he filmed 442 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 2: himself setting himself on fire, and he went absolutely cuckoo. 443 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: And I didn't agree with his politics or his case 444 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: or whatever else, but one cannot be unmoved watching it 445 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: and seeing this guy dows himself. You remember this remark, 446 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: he doused himself and then he lit it, And I 447 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: remember somebody talked to his father, and I just thought, 448 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: that's the cruelest fate of all to know. So it's 449 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: one thing that you're going to miss the companionship the 450 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: affection of your son for the rest of his life, 451 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: but to know that he suffered, and to know that 452 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: he chose to suffer, which means how much pain he 453 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: was in suicide. Like everybody else, I have had a 454 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: relative who committed suicide. Most people know someone who has, 455 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: and then there's people that I knew but not so well. 456 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: My uncle took his own life, and it has I 457 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: don't know if that gave me some different perspective, but 458 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: I'll tell you my perspective on it, and that is 459 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: I get angry when people talk about suicide as being cowardice. 460 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: It is not cowardice. Could you do it? I couldn't. 461 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: It's a hard thing to do. It's not a noble 462 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: thing to do. It's a hard thing to do, and 463 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: we're not wired to do it. We are wired to 464 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: preserve and perpetuate the species. We're not wired to kill ourselves. 465 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 2: I think about the links Marcus Latreull went to stay alive. 466 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: It would have been easier to roll over and die. 467 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: He's just watched all his buddies die. The likelyhood he's 468 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: going to get out of there is less than one percent. 469 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: His polymarket's odds are not good. What drove him He 470 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: wasn't married at the time, He hadn't even met his 471 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: wife at the time. He had no children. His father 472 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: died when he was young. It was only his mom. 473 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: He had friends back home and there was like a 474 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: watch party hoping he would make it. But he didn't 475 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: know all that what drove him. I don't know. I 476 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: don't know. I've asked the question. But it's a drive 477 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: to survive. We have an instinctive natural We didn't choose it. 478 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: A drive to survive, and so for someone to overcome that, 479 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: it's not because they're an awful, weak, terrible person. It's 480 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: because the pain is so great, and so I think 481 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: there's there's room for some sympathy andathy and compassion to 482 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: know how bad they were hurting, and to just call 483 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: it cowardice or weakness or whatever we call it, even 484 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 2: making it illegal. How stupid well Bob killed himself. I 485 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: guess we'll oh. I guess we won't be able to 486 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: punish him, but we would have. It's the dumbest thing 487 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: that laws against suicide. To be hurting so damn bad, lee, 488 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: to be hurting so bad that the only way you 489 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 2: see out is to take your own life. I think 490 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: the only reaction any of us should ever have is 491 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: compassion for the pain that person was going through. And 492 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: our job, our responsibility, our challenge, is to show people 493 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: it can get better, It will get better, will will 494 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: help you get it better. This was the worst, it's 495 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: going to get better. And here's how we're going to 496 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: have a plan to get better. That's what they do 497 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: at Camptol. They teach. They teach veterans almost all of 498 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: them have committed, have attempted to commit suicide already, sometimes 499 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: multiple times, is to teach them that no matter how 500 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: dark the day gets, here's how you get through that 501 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: day to the next day. And here is the remembrance 502 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 2: of all the people around you who love you. Let's 503 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: not hurt them, Let's survive and thrive. So anyway, the 504 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: Gonzales thing, it's not the having the affair that I 505 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: would expect to bring him down. It is that she 506 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: took her life in that manner. In that manner, especially 507 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: a young beautiful woman, is a sense that he wronged 508 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: her to such a degree. I am surprised that has 509 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: not caused him more problems. But Gonzales is a pretty 510 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: good he's a pretty glib fella. He's a pretty good 511 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: uh politician. I don't know, it's gonna it's gonna be 512 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: a interesting race. I think her wins that race, but 513 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting. Eve Yeah, oh hold on, we're 514 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: up against the break hold out there. I'm gonna go 515 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: eve R c Andy, Tomas and Ricardo coming up.