WEBVTT - EJ Marcus Disobeys Bridger 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:15.760 Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:18.799 But you're a guess to my home. 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:27.240 You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests. 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:34.360 Your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:36.720 So how did you dare. 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:52.080 To surbey me? Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:58.120 Richard Wineger. We are in the backyard. Very pleasant morning 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.560 so far. I did spray myself with the hose. I'm 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.920 drying off mostly. Oh and there's even a bird that's 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.479 just immediately getting in on the show, which I love. 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:09.679 We've got a lot of business. We have a lot 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.679 of business up top here. Of course. The New York Show, 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.440 which we announced last week, continues to be in the future. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.520 October thirteenth. It's a Sunday night. You've got to be there. 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:24.399 It's at the Bellhouse, the Bellhouse ny dot com. I 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.119 don't know what the ticket sales are at this point. 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:27.840 You may already be out of luck. I don't know 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.039 what to say. Just get on it. I mean, the 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:31.760 things we already have in store for this thing, I'm 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.720 going crazy. It's going to be a ball now. The 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.880 other piece of businesses thousands of people have asked me 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:43.360 to comment on the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, and 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:47.160 I guess I should just get in and give my commentary. 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.240 And I watched the trailer and it seems like a 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:54.920 wonderful group of gals with fantastic husbands to boot. I 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:56.360 don't know what else to say about it. They do 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.280 all seem to share the same hairdresser. They've got every 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.000 one of them has the same highlights and waves. That 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.160 should be the point of the show, you know, well, 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.000 this will be a continuing conversation with the Secret Lives 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:09.680 of Mormon Wives. I think that's what it's called. It's 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:13.480 on Hulu. Who cares, Let's get into the podcast. I 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.560 love today's guest. It's e J Marcus. E J. Welcome 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.519 to I said no gifts, Thank you so much. It's 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.600 kind of just had to blow through some information up top. There. 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:24.720 Have you seen this trailer for the Secret Lives of 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:25.359 Mormon Wives. 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.160 I haven't, but I'm not what it's called. 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:33.160 I maybe now that it rhymes yeah, like that would 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:34.240 be an odd title for. 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:38.000 Show, well, or an amazing catchy. 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.079 On a Liisa's that's the title of the show on 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.880 Liise has not even looked it up onalise is hanging 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:48.480 by a thread employment wise, Okay, Okay, that's nodding their head. Okay, 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:49.960 it is the secret lives of Mormon wives. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:50.280 Okay. 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:54.760 These gals we're on TikTok kind of became famous for 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:58.880 being Mormon wives on TikTok, kind of like these long 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:00.560 wavy hair. 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:02.520 With the highlights beautiful. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.320 And then I guess there was like a scandal they 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:09.880 were What's what I've learned is called soft swinging with 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.440 each other's usban's, but I'm not entirely clear on what 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:13.839 that means. 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.280 Oh my god. Okay, Well, I'm I'm really fascinated by 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.840 all of this, I might say. I mean, I'm I'm 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.440 kind of interested in the idea of swinging generally, just 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.640 like conceptually, because I think it's like a generational difference. 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.480 Oh yeah, you know, because it's like, you know, people 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:29.600 my age and younger they're doing a sort of polyamorous 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.840 thing totally. But I think swinging is very cool actually, 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.320 so soft swinging, I'm like, now, what can that? 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.520 What does it mean? Does it just mean having a 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.480 conversation with someone else's husband? 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.680 Right, it's like just flirting in the same roomance? Yeah, 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:46.360 where there's like palpable sexual a. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.960 Wink. Yeah, like a brush against a shoulder. 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.240 Right, which is kind of the best of all worlds. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.600 Oh yeah, of course you get a little and then 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:02.600 you get to fantasize suggestion, right, beautiful. The word swinging, 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.720 it just always feels so dated. It feels like such 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:06.760 a seventies thing. 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.440 But I'm like, bring back swinging parties, Like, are people 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:10.720 doing this? 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:11.240 They must? 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:12.600 I think these Mormon wives. 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:16.760 Okay, they're leading the charge absolutely front of culture. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:20.800 Okay, got They are choreographic dances and bringing swinging back 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.560 in a huge way in kind of these bland suburban homes. 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:28.320 Very beige, okay, all kind of the gray floor. 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:29.919 Oh yeah, the gray floor. 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.880 But they're making a career out of it. Who who's 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.720 got a whole? I don't know. It's probably four episodes, 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:36.160 I don't know. 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.920 Yeah, and you were asked to comment on it. 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:42.159 A lot of nature because I'm from Utah and a 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.239 lot of listeners have just reached out sending the trailer. 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:46.240 What do you think of this? 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:48.360 Speak on it? 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:54.200 Please need the final word totally, So that's uh, I'm 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:55.520 sure I'll get hooked, you know. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.680 Oh yeah, I mean I think I will as well. 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.400 Now it's inevitable. 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:01.120 Do you watch any reality TV? 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.040 Yeah, and this is always a surprise to people for 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:07.120 some reason. But I am really into The Bachelor. Oh interesting, 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.200 I'm in like a really avid like I go to 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:11.440 a watch party every week. 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:12.040 Wow. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:16.440 Yeah. Yeah, And I it's kind of the one. I mean, 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.640 I've dabbled in other like dating reality shows. I was 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.479 big on the Queer Ultimatum. Obviously that was legendary, but 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.839 I the Bachelor is the one that I feel like 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:31.479 most invested, like culturally and just because I think it's like, 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:33.760 I think it's so fascinating. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.120 How do you have never watched a full episode? 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.000 I mean and and fair like. 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.800 But also not because I feel like an entire culture 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:43.440 is watching the show. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:44.040 It is. 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:48.600 It's what's a Bachelor nation nation the country? 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:52.760 There is a city state to the Bachelor. 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.320 Yeah. So I just think it's really interesting the way 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:59.360 that like it's gamified. There's like a million podcasts that 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:04.320 talk about this, right, right, and that's it gamified. So okay, 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.479 this is something that I've only been privy to in 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.800 the last couple of months because of my you know, 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:10.960 Bachelor watch parties. The girls are sort of filling me 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.359 in on stuff. The idea is like with the Bachelor, 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.520 So it's like, you know the Bachelor, and then there's 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:19.320 all these women competing for his love and affection, right supposedly, 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.920 but then if you kind of take it apart, it's 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.280 like the women are actually the ones that are kind 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.240 of in control because they're playing the game and they're 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.279 manipulating I mean maybe manipulating the strong word, but they're 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.560 they're like using him to get what they want. Oh, 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.640 like the way that these podcasts talk about it, They're 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:38.560 like they're like she was able to produce tears and 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.280 therefore an illicit and a reaction from it. Like that's 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.480 the language they're using. It's like and I'm sorry, I 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.320 don't remember the names of the actual podcast, but like 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.080 they're coining these really interesting terms that I think it's 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:52.880 sort of interesting. 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.000 And what do the women want? What are they trying 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:56.800 to just fame? 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:58.720 I think it's a myriad of things. Like I think 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.880 it's like the some of them, I'm sure are genuinely 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:06.120 looking for a lifetime of like marriage. I don't know, 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.479 I don't know, I don't know, but I'm like, I'm like, 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.200 so scart of when to get canceled for this really 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.760 Like I'm like, I'm like, I should not come for you. 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.720 Yeah there, and they are fierce, but but yeah, I 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.760 feel like some of them maybe literally want marriage. I 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.440 think also they're like wanting yeah, like a career of 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.400 their own or like they have like other things they 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.160 want to promote obviously. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.440 Right, energy drinks, Yeah. 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.320 Things like that. And I think they're also like I 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:33.840 think some of them are just like on there to 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.720 kind of like have fun on reality TV. Like I 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.760 don't know, like I think it's like a very interesting 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.200 but they own it. Like I think that's the thing is, 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.679 like they're like pretty you can kind of tell who's 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:45.080 there for. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.800 What, right. I Mean, my only like closest experience I 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:50.800 have to this is Survivor, where like you watch New 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:54.040 Survivor and the contestants have been watching it for such 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.800 a long time that it's no longer like they're aware 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.560 of the show in a way that like kind of 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.600 ruins the show. It's so longer that thing. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:05.120 Yeah, It's definitely different than like in the early seasons 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:06.920 of reality shows, where I feel like people were kind 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:10.160 of like I mean pretty much psychologically just sort of tortured, 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:11.320 not knowing what they were getting in. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:15.520 Right, and we're actually documenting these people being absolutely manipulated 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:16.200 by producers. 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.120 Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, they're like, oh, I'm like, I guess 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:19.840 I'm gonna be on TV and like sort of no 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.840 one could anticipate what was gonna happen, and it's sort 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:24.720 of hugely upsetting to watch. 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:26.880 Are you so, are you new to The Bachelor. 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.200 Like relatively like some people I mean obviously have been 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.040 watching for years and years. The first season I watched 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:37.000 was like the quarantine, Like twenty twenty season there was 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.679 a quarantine there was and that one was extra weird 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.600 because like usually they're flying them all over the world 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.120 and this one it was kind of like and we're 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.120 in Pennsylvan. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:46.880 Moving around the yard. 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.960 Yeah, it was like they're like scaling like the same 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.839 building on like a like because they always do like 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.319 like a very active sort of like they're jumping. 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:59.240 Out of oh right, like skydie yeah yeah, bungee jumping. Yeah. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.600 And this one they were like climb up the same wall. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:07.520 Use this writing lawnmower, yeah, which I love. Okay, wow, 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.600 I yeah, I always I feel like I should probably 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:14.520 try to watch an entire season I've but it's every 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.320 time I try to dip in. I don't know. 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:19.960 It's so reality it is, it's completely and I think 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.600 that for me is why I feel like I get 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.800 a little scared when it feels like there's the lines 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:30.880 are blurry like between like The Bachelor's so overproduced and ridiculous, 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:35.360 like the conversations like these, like no one thinks this is. 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.400 Real, right right, I mean it's so stilted. It's like 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.720 the act you're seeing acting choices, yes, like truly. 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.600 You're seeing people be like Okay, who is my character again? 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.880 And I love that because it's just so silly, like 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.880 it actually feels like camp. But then like I feel 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.640 like when reality shows get a little blurry and I'm 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.320 like oh uh oh, like people are like taking this seriously, 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.960 then I get a little scared, right right, Yeah. 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:58.720 Do you think you would ever go on a reality show? 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.880 I don't think. I well, I think I would maybe 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.200 do like a in the world of Survivor kind of 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.720 one more competitive, yeah, like like what's it called, like 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:08.760 the Ninja Warrior one? 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:10.200 I love nothing more? 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.120 Yeah, Like I have dreams of like one day like 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:14.000 making that my thing. 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.400 Do they have team Ninja Warrior. I feel like we 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:17.280 should go on together. 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.600 Know, oh my god, people would underestimate us, Oh my god, 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.520 and we would kill it. We would kill it. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.400 I just I know that we would be able to 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:28.240 do this Ninja Warrior reach out. Yeah, it seems so fun. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:29.640 Does anyone ever get injured on that? 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:36.040 I'm sure there's no way everyone's walking away in one piece? 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.760 No, correct me if I'm wrong. Ninja Warrior is the 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.000 one where you're kind of scrambling around on things. 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.360 Yeah, it's pretty like insane physical challenges where they're like 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.679 again like throwing themselves into like I feel like it's 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.600 like a lot of like padded like like weird. Wait 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.400 is Ninja weorri the one way you fond of the lava? 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:58.319 That's uh or don't touch the lava? The flora is 0:10:58.559 --> 0:10:59.560 that one's the flora lava? 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.560 Okay, Okay, So I'm getting a couple completed. But yeah, 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.280 both of those I think we could do great. 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.160 Yes, I feel like Ninja Warrior. You're frequently over a 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.440 body of water like a swimming pool. Helicopter, Thank you 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:10.480 for joining us. 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:14.920 Thank you there, moving on with your day. That's my ride. 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:21.080 A rope dangles down and they just take off Ninja Warrior. 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:22.599 I feel like you're over a swimming pool, So it 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.600 seems like that's the very least you get to be 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:25.959 refreshed if you fall. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:27.920 Yeah, that's a nice perspective. 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:29.840 The floor is lava. I feel like it's just literally 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.000 like yeah, pieces of styrofoam or something that you fall into. 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.720 Yeah, well, and the floor is lava. The thing that 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.320 they do sometimes is like you can tell that it's 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.760 only like a three foot deep like pool, and then 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.120 sometimes it is like a liquid like a stew sort of, yeah, 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:50.440 like a stew, like a human stew. But I feel 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.120 like sometimes you can tell that they've told them like 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.959 make it like you're drowning, and then they're like, ah, 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.400 like they like have to like melt physically. 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.560 Yeah, it should be at least like uncomfortably hot water. 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.840 Maybe not scalding, but enough where you like, oh. 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.960 Yeah, definitely definitely at least that. 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:13.000 I mean, why call it lava? I mean, otherwise we're not. 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.160 Gonna cold ice. Cool could be fine, just something to 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.400 get a scream, yeah, and that's also good for your 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:18.920 muscles that. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:23.640 Yeah, you're getting a cold plunge, which is so you 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.640 know on trend for everybody Flora's ice plunge. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.120 Then people would be signing up. They would they not 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.680 to turn people away. I wouldn't want to do it. 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.240 Everyone's going there for their help. Yeah please, I don't 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:35.800 have insurance. 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.679 Yeah, I think Ninja Warrior we would be perfectly at 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.280 the very least fine on m Yeah. I think we 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:50.040 would straight by, but we would definitely scramble around make entertaining. 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.680 Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah. I wonder if you have to 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.520 do training for that. How do you do training for 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.280 a Ninja Warrior program. 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:57.960 I'm sure it's intensive. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.640 I mean, do you think they are like specific programs. 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.000 I wonder what I'm thinking about now is that, like 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:07.480 back to the injury thing. My friend is a physical therapist, 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.880 and she told me this was like horrifying for me 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:12.640 to learn as someone who plays in a rec soccer 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:17.520 league once every three months. She said that the most 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:21.240 common injuries that she sees are like adults, like people 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.959 over the age of like twenty eight, oh boy, who 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.760 have like casually gotten into like a sport every once 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.599 in a while, but are not properly like stretching or 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.200 doing anything like. So she sees like torn acls from 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.640 people who are like, I played in one rec basketball 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.400 game and then I got messed my body up so badly. 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:42.040 So that's why I'm like, I hope that they are preparing. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.439 That would stretching for a few minutes before the big. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.520 Warrior girls like it would be like the sad kind 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.280 of injury where it's like you wouldn't see anything you 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:53.200 have right, but in suddenly it's like someone's like, I'm 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:55.080 in the most pain I've ever been in. 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:56.800 My writhing in pain, and we don't get to see 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.560 any gore, broken bones or anything. Yeah, they like stepped 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.800 backwards a little. Two guys they reached for a too 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:09.079 high shelf. Yeah, like, oh okay, yeah, that's something to 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.080 keep in mind. Wow, I'm not gonna I guess I 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:12.560 can't do any sports. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.400 You just have to be like unfortunately stretching like way 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:20.040 more than your stretching, which is like the least fun part. Oh, 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.520 it's so boring, I know. I'm like, oh, like, okay, 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:23.640 I'll lunge around. 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:25.360 I guess you do yoga or anything. 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:29.320 No, No, Like I'm so bored, but I know that 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.200 I should do you do yoga? 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:35.920 No, I lift weights and for about forty seconds before 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.640 I go to the gym, I'll stretch. Okay, so not enough. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.720 Yeah yeah, but at least I'm like going through the motion. 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.360 Yeah, it's a suggestion, evidently, right, I think the body 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:45.600 appreciates a suggestion. 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:46.000 Yeah. 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.080 Yeah, it's as long as you're thinking about it. It's 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:48.520 like the same. 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:50.760 Yeah, yeah, from that one, I'll just think about it 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.400 on the right over okay, perfect, Yeah, some serious thought 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:54.160 about stretch. 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:56.960 By the time you're there, you're already bored event, and 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:57.840 so you can just skip. 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:58.600 It, so limber. 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.280 Yeah yeah. Oh, and I'm like, okay, I should stretch 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.960 after this, after the drive over. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.520 Yeah. I don't think I've ever actually done yoga at all, 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.600 now that we're saying, I think I've done a child's post. 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:15.400 Okay, that one's nice. 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.760 And then I think I've probably done Oh. I was 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.920 going to a trainer for a couple of months, like 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.920 as the pandemic was kind of slowing down a little bit, 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.480 and he would have me do different cat cow, I 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:35.520 think of something, and then he started really recommending Joe Rogan. Oh, 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.960 and that became part of about half of the workout time. 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:40.320 So we had to I kind of had to just 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.680 kind of slowly remove myself from him. 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.000 Yeah. The crazy thing with that kind of guy is 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.120 that it actually is like I've found, like it's not 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.160 who you're expecting it to be that you're talking to 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.440 and is suddenly like, wait, have you listened to this 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:58.440 guy Joe Rogan And you're like, whoa? I actually thought 0:15:58.480 --> 0:15:59.920 we were kind of like on the same base. 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:01.480 And that's where it becomes tricky because you have to 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.000 kind of let them down. 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:04.960 Yeah, because you're like, I don't want to just be 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.200 like whoa, okay crazy and walk away or whatever. I mean, sorry, 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.400 but like it's kind of I mean, when I run 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.480 into that, it's frequently like oh yeah, I'll have to 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.000 check it out. Yeah yeah, yeah, I'll like fake, I'll like, 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:17.240 oh maybe I'll write that down. 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:17.600 In my notes. 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:19.000 You're like Joe, what was it? 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.440 Yeah, and then just avoid because you don't want to 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:25.000 follow up. 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.240 No, no, you don't want to have to be like 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.239 I took a listen. 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.000 And it really does kind of have some real common 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:33.760 sense answers. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.760 Yeah, yeah, I was. I was surprisingly engaged. Yeah. 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:39.760 No, this trainer was like talking about Joe broken, but 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.560 then getting into like guests like I guess he has 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.120 a guest that like and encourages people to do small 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.240 amounts of heroin or something. I was like, I'm hearing 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.280 this from someone who's supposed to be caring about my 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.760 canileth on some level, right, And. 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.880 Then you're kind of like, so, what else do you believe? 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:59.920 Like what is this entire philosophy. 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.280 Of It's a hard one to track I've found. 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.159 Yeah. Yeah, And then there were like I kind of 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.280 just ghosted him. Then maybe like once every two weeks 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.560 I was getting a text, and once a month. Then 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.240 he vanished, and then he texted like a one year anniversary. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.320 And it's not simply not getting responses to any of 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.159 these things just go away. Yeah, but I guess he 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.080 thought we had built something. 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:27.040 It's so perplexing to me when people continue to text 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.760 after you haven't been responding, Like it's actually the most 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.080 confusing thing, like outside of I know it's like a 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:33.880 meme at this point of like people from dating apps 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.920 or whatever, but like in like just like a normal 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:42.560 like friendship or like acquaintanceship and then you haven't been responded, 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:46.359 like I would never mortifying, like someone doesn't respond to 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.959 me for a few days I'm like noted, like like 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.000 I understand, I'm not returning to that thread because it's 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.520 just like I mean, I don't want to see it 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.439 in silence. Yeah, I don't want to look up and 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.520 be like, oh, I asked you a question and you 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:02.760 never responded, like you're obviously busy, at the very. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:06.480 Least busier than me. Yeah, and that alone, that's. 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:10.119 Fine, but like to follow up and be like thinking 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.160 about you, it's crazy. 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.239 Yeah, I am. I don't know what the psychology is. 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.280 I guess some people just their communication methods are different. 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:26.399 I guess so some people are desperate, some people are lonely, 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:32.159 some people are dangerous, all totally valid things to be. 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:37.760 It is so valid to be dangerous. We support you, like, 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.440 keep doing you serious? 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.440 If anything, do it more? Yeah, because we're all wondering 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.200 are you dangerous? We want to know they are dangerous? 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:47.600 Yeah, yeah, we want the confirmation. 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.600 Yeah. We need to be able to spread the word. 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:55.159 The ambiguous identity of dangerous. It's such an interesting one. 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.560 Let us celebrate how dangerous you are. Could means so 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:03.440 many things dangerous in what way? Dangerously friendly? 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.480 I mean speaking of communication methods and not quite getting it. 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:15.600 This sort of thing this podcast is called. I said 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.240 no gifts, I of course was thrilled to have you 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:22.920 here today. Eachj will come along, we'll have a perfect conversation, 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:27.240 and then we'll move on with our days. So I 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:34.040 was flabbergasted, thrown and floored when I kind of met 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:37.120 you at my gate. We almost ran into each other 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:41.960