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Speaker 3: To surbey me? Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm

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Speaker 3: Richard Wineger. We are in the backyard. Very pleasant morning

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Speaker 3: We've got a lot of business. We have a lot

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Speaker 3: of business up top here. Of course. The New York Show,

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Speaker 3: which we announced last week, continues to be in the future.

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Speaker 3: October thirteenth. It's a Sunday night. You've got to be there.

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Speaker 3: It's at the Bellhouse, the Bellhouse ny dot com. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what the ticket sales are at this point.

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Speaker 3: You may already be out of luck. I don't know

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Speaker 3: things we already have in store for this thing, I'm

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Speaker 3: going crazy. It's going to be a ball now. The

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Speaker 3: other piece of businesses thousands of people have asked me

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Speaker 3: to comment on the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, and

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Speaker 3: I guess I should just get in and give my commentary.

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Speaker 3: And I watched the trailer and it seems like a

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Speaker 3: wonderful group of gals with fantastic husbands to boot. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what else to say about it. They do

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Speaker 3: this will be a continuing conversation with the Secret Lives

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Speaker 3: of Mormon Wives. I think that's what it's called. It's

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Speaker 3: on Hulu. Who cares, Let's get into the podcast. I

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Speaker 3: love today's guest. It's e J Marcus. E J. Welcome

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Speaker 3: to I said no gifts, Thank you so much. It's

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Speaker 3: kind of just had to blow through some information up top. There.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen this trailer for the Secret Lives of

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Speaker 3: Mormon Wives.

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Speaker 2: I haven't, but I'm not what it's called.

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Speaker 3: I maybe now that it rhymes yeah, like that would

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Speaker 3: On a Liisa's that's the title of the show on

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Speaker 3: Liise has not even looked it up onalise is hanging

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Speaker 3: by a thread employment wise, Okay, Okay, that's nodding their head. Okay,

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Speaker 3: it is the secret lives of Mormon wives.

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Speaker 3: These gals we're on TikTok kind of became famous for

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Speaker 3: And then I guess there was like a scandal they

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Speaker 3: were What's what I've learned is called soft swinging with

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, Well, I'm I'm really fascinated by

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Speaker 3: What does it mean? Does it just mean having a

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Speaker 2: But I'm like, bring back swinging parties, Like, are people

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Speaker 3: Right, and we're actually documenting these people being absolutely manipulated

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Speaker 3: Do you think you would ever go on a reality show?

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Speaker 2: I don't think. I well, I think I would maybe

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Speaker 2: It is so valid to be dangerous. We support you, like,

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Speaker 3: Find the class?

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00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 2: Well, I was on a walk at this canyon and

441
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 2: they had there was a sign.

442
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 3: Someone jumped out of the bushes.

443
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone jumped out of the bushes. And I never

444
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 2: wants to learn I have a lot to teach you.

445
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, it okay, that is

446
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 3: the scariest thing for someone to jumping out of a bush.

447
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 2: To hi and I'm dangerous.

448
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, you're so Yeah.

449
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: So I was on a walk in the canyon. I

450
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 2: saw a poster that said Docent Naturalists Training Volunteer Training Program.

451
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 3: Okay, oh my god.

452
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of a lot. It's a mouthful, but

453
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 2: basically it was like a bi weekly class that twice

454
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 2: a week. Because bi weekly can be.

455
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 3: Bi weekly, We've got a narrow down what that means.

456
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 2: So that was twice a week and for like a

457
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 2: few months, and I went in every day with a

458
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: bunch of I would majority older people, and we learned

459
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: how to like take like all of the things you

460
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 2: need to know about the canyon to kind of like

461
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 2: tour people through the canyon. Oh so it was kind

462
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: of like a tour guide teacher class. And that's what

463
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: a docent is, which I of course connected. Yeah, but

464
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 2: this is like a canyon docent.

465
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 3: You've rarely rarely seen canyon docent, right, It's.

466
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 2: A rare one. And so I was like, you know what, frankly,

467
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: was it a period of my life where I felt

468
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: I had nothing going on, and so I said, sure,

469
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: I will become a docent of you in canyon. And

470
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: so I sat in this room twice a week with

471
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: these lovely people, and I learned all about it. And

472
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: then when I graduated, mm hmmm, I got a bag

473
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 2: of tricks you could say that are like things that

474
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: help you, like walk people through the canyon and teach

475
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: them about so oh great, and this was one of

476
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: those things. And what's awesome about it is it's pretty direct,

477
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: Like I mean, you sort of on first glance could

478
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: kind of tell what it was, right, right, And it's

479
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: just like the different rocks that are found in the canyon, yes,

480
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: which a lot of the details about them I have forgotten.

481
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're so, I'm not like rusty as.

482
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: A rusty as a docent, but I felt like, you know,

483
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: it is something that if you were like going on

484
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 2: a walk kind of anywhere in LA it's kind of

485
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: a fun thing to have in your bag.

486
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 3: Right right. So okay, so let's get back to this

487
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 3: class for a minute. You're going twice a week. How

488
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: big was the class? Like?

489
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 2: Twenty people?

490
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 3: Okay, twenty people? You were the lot ofgest preshared people.

491
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you making frin Oh yeah, lifelong temporarily mean

492
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: we've stayed in touch. You're texting email? Yeah, I'm emailing

493
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: a bit, you know. I mean, actually, genuinely, it was

494
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: really sweet they I was. It was around the time

495
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: when I was doing my show in the like Netflix's

496
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 2: Joke Festival, right, and a lot of them did come

497
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: to my show. Oh that's very which was really sweet.

498
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 2: That's wonderful. Yeah, I love those guys. But yeah, it

499
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: was also just it was kind of like a side

500
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 2: of la that I haven't really seen because I'm so

501
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: kind of I don't know, you know how it is.

502
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: I'm sort of hanging out with a sort of bohemian

503
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 2: type artistic you know, these people, and so these like

504
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 2: it was cool to be in a class with someone

505
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,719
Speaker 2: who's like, oh, I'm like a retired biologist.

506
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: Right, I'm someone who does something meaningful. Yeah, did something

507
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: meaningful and has knowledge.

508
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, truly truly knowledge to share that like actually deeply

509
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: impacts our physical environment, and I'm willing to forge real relationships.

510
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

511
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm sort of showing up completely authentically as myself.

512
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: I was like that is, I mean, what a novel content.

513
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 3: You do have to go to the canyons to find that?

514
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 3: You do? You do?

515
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, I learned a lot.

516
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 3: Okay, So and what were you learning, Like what were

517
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: the interesting things you were learning from this class that

518
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: you were like, Oh, that's fascinating.

519
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: Well it started.

520
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 3: It was cool.

521
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: It was sort of like on a timeline of like

522
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: the first things we learned about were like the indigenous

523
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: tongue of people that lived in the canyon before the

524
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: Spanish settlers, right right, Well, they didn't actually live in

525
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 2: the canyon full time. Usually they were there sort of

526
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 2: seasonally depending on like what like things they were foraging for.

527
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 2: But yeah, so like learning about like the histories of

528
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 2: like people that have been in like Altadena for like

529
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 2: way longer than white people. And then we moved into

530
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: just like different natural elements of the canyons. So like

531
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: start with plants, animals, you know, learning stuff of like

532
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: because really they're prepping you to be able to walk

533
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: through mostly children like groups of children.

534
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 3: Oh okay, we're doing that deal trip.

535
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 2: So it's like they're like focusing on stuff of like Okay,

536
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: this kind of lizard changes colors depending on how much

537
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: sun he's gone in the day.

538
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: Oh, but that's a fact. But it's like.

539
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: Awesome stuff, you know, Like it's like, Okay, I'm walking

540
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: around my neighborhood. I'm like, uh, that lizard's pretty dark.

541
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: He doesn't need any more sun. You know, it's at

542
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 2: risk for melanoma. Yeah, like he needs to get inside.

543
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, are human?

544
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: No?

545
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually that's a set topic of melanoma. Mel we're

546
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: not getting into let's get into it, MELI. Yeah. Oh

547
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 3: so you learned about all of these what sort of

548
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 3: animals are scurrying about in the canyons?

549
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 2: I mean all kinds, Like there's okay, let me let

550
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 2: me see if I can get this fact actually completely right.

551
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: La is one of two megacities in the world that

552
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: is home to a large predator cat.

553
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: Oh.

554
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: So it's like it's La and I'm pretty sure Dubai

555
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: the two to buy. Yeah, are the two like mega

556
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: cities in the world. Oh my god, I hope I'm

557
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: getting this right.

558
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 3: On a Lisha's rap. You're checking the internet.

559
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: Okay. Cool.

560
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: So it's like, because you know about P twenty two, yeah,

561
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: of course, Mountain Lion slash Cougar.

562
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

563
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like that's so rare that he was like

564
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 2: in La County and like sharing space with people that

565
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: close by, right, right, And so like that's the kind

566
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: of thing of like there's like mountain lions, there's.

567
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 3: Bobcats, bobcats, there's BlackBerry by Mumbai. Okay, yeah, I was

568
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: gonna say Dubai. That doesn't there's nothing natural happening in Dubai.

569
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: I don't think that there's any living thing other than yeah,

570
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: freaks who drive Bugatti's or yeah that's so true humiliating

571
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 3: but whatever. But it's still the crazy like La in

572
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: one of the like it's kind of like, what wow, Yeah,

573
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: that's reasly fascinating. What's I wonder what the big cat

574
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: and Mumbai is leopard? I love a leopard. I'd love

575
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 3: to see a leopard in the city. Oh my god,

576
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: I know, kind of just wandering around shopping. Yeah yeah, okay,

577
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 3: so mountain lions they're very rare in cities obviously.

578
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's like crazy that we're so close to

579
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: big animals like.

580
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: That, right, And I feel like I've just recently seen

581
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: on Instagram there's a new mountain lion making waves. Yeah,

582
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 3: does I have a name?

583
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if it has a name yet.

584
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 3: And do we know why P twenty two was called that?

585
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: Something about the way they tracked him or something.

586
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: Some joyless oh honor Lisa saying yes, yeah, couldn't just

587
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: give it a name, I know, some dignity. Yeah, it's

588
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: really humiliating for that animal.

589
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: I know.

590
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: I was hopefully with this next one, I've got another

591
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 3: chance to give it a name.

592
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: I know. I hope he can live a fruitful life.

593
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 3: Now. I was on a hike recently and we got

594
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: into it like a waterfall situation. I've kind of decided

595
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 3: I only want to end a hike where I'm swimming

596
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: around a waterfall. But there, while we were swimming around

597
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,479
Speaker 3: in this waterfall, we looked at the rock and there

598
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: were little frogs that had changed to the color of

599
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: the rock. Did you learn about this?

600
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: We didn't really talk too much about frogs because they're

601
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: in Eton Canyon. They're kind of an invasive The frogs

602
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: that are oh interesting, I'm pretty like the ones that

603
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: are closer by to like where we would do the walks,

604
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: the like nature walks, because they were like, yeah, there

605
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: was something about like the tadpoles that had been born

606
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: in that one.

607
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: But oh no, it's odd to think of a frog

608
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: being a problem.

609
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: I know. Now. I'm like, now I'm gonna be just

610
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: spinning this whole podcast touting like nature facts. I don't

611
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: exactly know, but there's.

612
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: Information like it is crazy though.

613
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: Frogs do like the noisiest ones are often ones where

614
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: you're like, I don't know if you're supposed to be here.

615
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: Oh so it's more of like a noise ordinance thing,

616
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: just like noisy neighbor complaints.

617
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, the neighbors.

618
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: I hate them, yeah, because I mean they're just eating bugs.

619
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: They're not attacking large mammals or anything. No, no, yeah,

620
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: I mean I suppose some are poisonous. But these these

621
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: frogs I'm going to stand up for because you know,

622
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: they were changing to the color of the rock.

623
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: I mean, they might have been meant to be there.

624
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: I can't really speak for them.

625
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: Adorable once you saw one and then suddenly they're everywhere.

626
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: They've been camouflaged all over, that's crazy. I love to

627
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: see a frog in the wild.

628
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: I loved it. And sometimes they are so small all

629
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: the best, like the size of your fingernail.

630
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: I had a little lizard that was the size of

631
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: a fingernail just down there, and I so melted. Absolutely.

632
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: I may have taken a video or a photo. I'll

633
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: try to share that, but when a lizard is the

634
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: size of a fingernail, it's crazy. What are we even

635
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: talking about?

636
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

637
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 3: Where is it headed? What will it become? How does

638
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: it survive? That's a good question, very sweet little journey.

639
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: Those things are wrong. I know, lizard, but are you

640
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: a snake person?

641
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: I appreciate a snake.

642
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: Okay.

643
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: I had a recent encounter with what I mean in

644
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: Eaton Canyon. I'm not gonna lie. I had a recent

645
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: encounter with one where I was walking down the path

646
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: and it was a massive rattlesnake. Like I it was

647
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: actually one of those moments where I was like like

648
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: sort of an out of body like because it's like

649
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: you know when you see something and you're like is

650
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: that a snake and you're like no, no, no, that would

651
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: be crazy, Like that's way too big. This was like

652
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: I had that moment and then I was like, no,

653
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: that's a snake. And then it rattled away.

654
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: Did it rattle? It's thing? It did, but it left,

655
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: it didn't attack.

656
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: They don't really want to.

657
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into Rattle six. I'm trying to turn

658
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: this into a utility podcast where people are learning. This

659
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 3: is kind of we're in competition with the Daylight now.

660
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

661
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's kind of, you know, we're just trying

662
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: to get facts. Rattlesnicks they'll screwed away from you.

663
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not exactly. They're not super aggressive, like if

664
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: they feel like you're trying to you know, they'll defend themselves. Okay,

665
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: but they're not the kind of snake that's like chasing

666
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: you down the road, which.

667
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: Doing in the back of a motorcycle. Yeah. Oh that's interesting.

668
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: So it's more of like, oh, I'm sorry I stepped

669
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: on you, and now it's attack.

670
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's like don't do that, you know, And

671
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: the rattle is really like it's warning you.

672
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: Like, hey, please, are you giving you signs?

673
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

674
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: Wow? So what am I supposed to do when I

675
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: see a rattlesnake?

676
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: Probably just give it space. I mean, they can feel

677
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: the vibrations in the ground if you coming close, so

678
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: like they're not like gonna hang around and be like

679
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you. But like like when I saw

680
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 2: this rattlesnake. There was someone coming up behind me who

681
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: had a little dog with her, and the dog was

682
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: kind of I think he was on a leash, but

683
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: the leash was kind of along, so he was kind

684
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: of like darting around. Oh no, and I was like, hey,

685
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: pick up your dog, probably because he's like that. The

686
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: dog is going to be the one that's going to

687
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: get nailed by the snake.

688
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, speaking of venomous creatures, a bee or

689
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: hornet just flew right through.

690
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: And left us alone.

691
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's okay.

692
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't really you just have to keep

693
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: an eye out, right, keep an eye out so you're

694
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: not stepping on them. Take a listen, yeah, because they'll

695
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: spread them and this is what this one is doing.

696
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: They'll they're getting some sun too, like their sun bathing.

697
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: These sun freaks, I.

698
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: Know, they're obsessed. It's like they're it's like they're cold

699
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: blooded or something. So he was getting some sun lying

700
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: out in the middle of the path.

701
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's.

702
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: When you're kind of like, that's when you would maybe

703
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: step on him because you're not looking.

704
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: Right, right. So what snakes are? Uh, Well, first of all,

705
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: if I get bit by a rattlesnake. What am I

706
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: supposed to do?

707
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: Really, they're like sucking it out? The poison out is

708
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 2: a miss?

709
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a myth.

710
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: Interest, Yeah, is my understanding. I am brilling you on

711
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: safety information. I didn't even think about the fact that,

712
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: like obviously I knew I was gonna talk about.

713
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: The right to find out if you learned anything in.

714
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 2: This And it's like I swear I did, Diane, if

715
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: you're listening, you're an amazing teacher. And I'm so sorry,

716
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: and you use the ten thousand dollars I gave you

717
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: in any way you want. Yeah, I went into debt

718
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: taking this class byway, yes, but yeah, what was it?

719
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: Oh what you're supposed to do?

720
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder what we're supposed to do for bit

721
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: by a rental snake?

722
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: An I get to the hospital like aced, Okay, of course,

723
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean that's not information, but like that's what There's

724
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: nothing else we can do?

725
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: Put mud on it? What a shame? Really, So it's

726
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: really just kind of I wonder how much time you have.

727
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: That's a thirty minutes the idea, okay, thirty minutes.

728
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: The myth part is though, like it not everybody dies

729
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: from a rattlesnake bite. Like it's like, oh, if you're

730
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: like a baby or if you're a dog, okay, that's

731
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: gonna be rough. But like a full grown adult, you're like,

732
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: it's scary, Like you should get to a hospital, right,

733
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: like you're probably gonna be okay. Wow, is it taking

734
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: like forever together?

735
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: Okay? Right? Like days?

736
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: Yeah?

737
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: Hours?

738
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

739
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: Wow. So don't let your baby crawl through the forest.

740
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't let your baby call through the forest. If

741
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: you got a little dog, just watch it, watch it, right,

742
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 2: because like the person when when I saw this person,

743
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: I was like, you should pick up your jack Russell

744
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: terrier or whatever. She was like, oh, thank you for

745
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 2: telling me, because like he would try to fight the snake.

746
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: Oh you know, like dogs are going to run up

747
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: and be like a toy.

748
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: I had. My friend's dog got stung by a what

749
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 3: are those the bees? The killer bees like African killer bees.

750
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

751
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: And she was a tiny little lady. She got uh

752
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 3: so she was like in a coma for a minute.

753
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 3: Oh but survived. But yeah, dogs love to get into

754
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 3: these poisonous situations.

755
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: They do stupid.

756
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: Now, Okay, so we're trying to figure out what you

757
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 3: actually learned in this class.

758
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, are you like impressed at all?

759
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: I'm like mild, I feel like this is information that

760
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: you probably could have just like totally listen to. That's

761
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: absolute shrieking. That's happening. Must be a rattle just biting

762
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: kids all over ground, one after another. We're getting back

763
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: to these rocks.

764
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, the rocks. I'm gonna go ahead and say, that's

765
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: maybe the thing I know least about.

766
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: I don't even know how to is this igneous igneous

767
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 3: and metamorphic rocks? What's the difference is? Can I guess

768
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: it's a metamorphic like from a lava? No? I mean.

769
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of a cheat sheet on the back.

770
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: Okay the rocks, Yeah, primarily two times does that exact

771
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 3: quarts and horn Blentz does the listener liking this igneous rocks? Okay,

772
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: but it doesn't really tell you that, like what the

773
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: differences between these two rocks other than like it does

774
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: describe different ones. Like if I were to tell you

775
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: ask you what's a Wilson quartz d rite, which, yeah,

776
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: would you be able to tell me that it has

777
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 3: a grant like texture in the ground mineral is whitish

778
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: with small black crystals that ever across the learning the curriculum.

779
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's like, here's what I'll say about

780
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 2: the structure of the class. It was there was a

781
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: lot of lecture, okay, and I loved everyone that came

782
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: in and lectured about their specific topic. Amazing. It was

783
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: also kind of the vibe of, like, you know, again

784
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: some older people that sometimes the people speaking maybe a

785
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: lot of their lecture would be taken up by like

786
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: setting up the PowerPoint. Oh interesting, saying there would be yes,

787
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: information given, but like it wasn't maybe people's strongest platform

788
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: in which to be giving said information, right, Like I

789
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: was getting more from like like I we'd be going

790
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: on the walks, I'd be talking one on one with

791
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: someone about something.

792
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: Okay, and that's where you're learning.

793
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: I also, it's been a while since I've been a student.

794
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. This is me just like defending myself giving discammers.

795
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: It's been a while since I've been a student, so

796
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: I historically I'm not that I don't take information the

797
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: best when I'm sort of sitting down and just like listening.

798
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 3: Just kind of a dry lecture on rocks that makes sense.

799
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: But there were some things that like really stuck out

800
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: to Like I am just more interested in like animals

801
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 2: and things like that.

802
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: Okay, right, rocks are hard to get excited about. Yeah,

803
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: I mean, of course there are people out there who

804
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: love rocks. They have the rocks tumblers. Yeah, they're touching rocks,

805
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: they're looking at them.

806
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I have heard people in my life like

807
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 2: actually talk about rocks and I'm like, well, that's interesting,

808
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: Like you are so excited about that. That sounds interesting.

809
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: That's the best. I don't care what the topic is.

810
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 3: If the person's excited to be talking.

811
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, then it's like that what I mean?

812
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: Anything? Right? How does that feel?

813
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing.

814
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: Well I should at least name the different things on here,

815
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: at least try. There's a granite pegmatite, a low grand diorite,

816
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: Wilson quartz diorite. Of course. Oh, I should be looking

817
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: at them and describing them. That's more exciting. A horn

818
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: blend gabbro, which is kind of a black and white specked,

819
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: a muscavite mica schist, which is more of a like

820
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: a gorgeous coppery with a white. That's probably the most

821
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: appealing rock on this page. There's a milky quartz, and

822
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: then there's a nice g N E I S S

823
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: which is kind of a granite rock. And then the

824
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: probably second favorite on here for me is the biotite

825
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 3: mica schist Oh wow, yeah or schist or botit mica sheast.

826
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's Look how gorgeous this is. It's

827
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: a kind of a shimmering black onyx kind of volcanic.

828
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: I would say, I.

829
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 2: Would say volcanic as well. And you know it now

830
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: that you say that, I do think that is really

831
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: related to what the metamorphic is.

832
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: It is kind of a lava. I mean, am I

833
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: just thinking magma and I'm mad jumping to metamorphic?

834
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm really excited to see, like how many like

835
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 2: what the Venn diagram is of Like people who listen

836
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: to the podcasts we are experts on ross always gonna

837
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: they're gonna have a lot to say about that.

838
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: It's always interesting to see somebody who yeah, and also

839
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: who's like listening to a podcast about someone who's talking

840
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: about the secret lives and Mormon wives and has a

841
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: decent knowledge of the Earth's minerals. People are dynamic. They're layers.

842
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: They are as layered as our planet.

843
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: They're as layered as well. These pieces of.

844
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: Rock as the horn Blend gabro. Yeah. Well, well, I'm

845
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: really excited to have this. It's very stylish. I feel

846
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 3: like it's really classy looking.

847
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: It's kind of cool. Yeah.

848
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 3: The font is good. Yeah. Oh, it was two dollars

849
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 3: I pay for this.

850
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: He did not pay for it.

851
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: So someone paid two dollars, probably in nineteen seventy eight.

852
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so I do think these gluede on there

853
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: before I was borne.

854
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: Formation of the Earth. Yes, was kind of the We

855
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: had the Big Bang and then suddenly people were going

856
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: crazy with a glue gun, right, just putting rocks on

857
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 3: sheets for learning. Yeah. Okay, well, I think it's time

858
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 3: to play a game. Okay, We're gonna play a game

859
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: called Gift or a Curse. I need a number between

860
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 3: one and ten from you.

861
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 2: Five.

862
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: Okay. I have to do some like calculating right now

863
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: to get our game pieces. So right now, you can recommend,

864
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 3: you can promote, you can talk more on the subjects

865
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: of eating canyon, whatever you feel like. I'll be right back.

866
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see, I'm gonna be in Portland, Oregon doing

867
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 2: my solo live show August thirty. First. That's about it

868
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: for me. I don't really have much else going on.

869
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to be on this podcast.

870
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: Do you have anything to recommend? What have you enjoyed recently?

871
00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: Mm? Okay. I'm currently reading Orlando by virgin Oh and

872
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if I know I'm late to the

873
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: game sort of many regards, but I don't like. This

874
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: book is blowing my mind.

875
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: I've never read Virginia wolf I've obviously, like I studied

876
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: a little bit about her in college, but never not

877
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 3: even to the Lighthouse.

878
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: She is okay, I would recommend to the Lighthouse. She

879
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 2: is one of those writers that like you're like, oh,

880
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: for Daniel wolf everyone talks about and then you read

881
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: her and you're like, Okay, this is this is pretty awesome.

882
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 2: Like Orlando is like a queer trans It's about Virginia

883
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: Wolfe's friend who was a sort of like androgynist lesbian

884
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: that she became bessies with and later a romance published

885
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 2: letters between them. But she wrote this book about this person, Vita,

886
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: and so Orlando is about. It starts out as like

887
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: about a teenage boy who one day goes to sleep,

888
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: wakes up as a woman, spens a woman, and it's

889
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: written in this crazy way, like it's like the writing

890
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: is awesome and you're reading it and you're like, what.

891
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 3: Year did this?

892
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: God, this is crazy. And so it's like about this

893
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: person that you had this romance with, right, and so

894
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: it's blowing my mind lovely. I know my friend told

895
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: me about it. I was like, you're making that up,

896
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: no way. Virginia Wolf wrote that you're crazy.

897
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: It is interesting, like when you go back to old

898
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 3: art that like has been pushed into the shadows or

899
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: whatever because of its content, and then you read it

900
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, this feels so unbelievably contemporary because

901
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: that people were uncomfortable with the ideas at the time.

902
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: Totally so, but then you read it, it feels like, oh,

903
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 3: this could have been published within the last you know,

904
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: little while one.

905
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: Hundred and like no doubt, Like, I mean, Orlando is

906
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: kind of an extreme one, but I'm sure that there

907
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: are like English teachers who have been like teaching this

908
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: book and are like it's not gay, like and definitely

909
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: it's a normal, normal book.

910
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 3: If you take anything away from Orlando it's just a

911
00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: nice friendship. It's fantasy. I can tell you that much. Okay,

912
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: that's a great recommendation.

913
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: I love a book recommendation, so I would recommend that

914
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 2: it's really fun.

915
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: Okay, wonderful. What am I? Oh, do you know what

916
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna My sister just started a business. I'm going

917
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 3: to promote it. I'm going to use my platform to

918
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 3: help a family member that she started a business. She's

919
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: a work in the nick you for a long time.

920
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 3: She's a nurse and started a business called love z

921
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: Baby l u V s I e Baby. And I

922
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 3: am not a mother or father, have no children of

923
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: my own, never will, so I can speak expertly on

924
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 3: this topic. Yeah, it's some sort of device or no,

925
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: it's a clothing that the baby can wear. And my

926
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 3: sister has a mother of three, has figured out what

927
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: you need. So I'm going to recommend that l u

928
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 3: V s i ebaby dot Com. What a gift to give.

929
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 3: I just gave some to a friend. Go look at

930
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,479
Speaker 3: me supporting a family member.

931
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: You're using for for the first time ever for good? Yeah, wow,

932
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: and I'm here for it.

933
00:43:58,880 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: No.

934
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: I love my sister, so we've got to support that

935
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 3: that's awesome. That's the big recommendation. I hope I explained

936
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 3: that in some way or mysteriously enough that the listener's like, well,

937
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: I've got to get some baby clothes.

938
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: I'm interested. I mean, it's always interesting when someone who

939
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: with such experience if something is making a product for it,

940
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: because I'm like, you literally know what.

941
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 3: Yes, you were like, oh, I'm fed up with not

942
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 3: having this product. That's like the best kind of thing. Yes, yes,

943
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 3: I wonder what that'll be for me. What's my big invention?

944
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: Hmmm?

945
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: Oh god, hm, dentist open on Sundays. Oh yeah, it's

946
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 3: not a bad idea. No, that's just basically a dentist.

947
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 3: But it's open on Sunday.

948
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: It could be called Sunday Dentists.

949
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 3: That feels like something that could happen. That's within the

950
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: realm of possibility. We've got to get into the game.

951
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: My God, gift or a curse. I'm gonna name three things.

952
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: You're gonna tell me if there are a gift or

953
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 3: a curse and why, and then I'll tell you if

954
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 3: you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers. Trans

955
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: lightly be careful. Oh number one, this is from a

956
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: listener named Emma Lake, gift or a curse electrical outlets

957
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: with USB ports in them.

958
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say curse, and I'm gonna say curse because

959
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: lately the Apple or I don't know who's controlling this,

960
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: they're phasing out USB ports. That one time it was

961
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: like the thing you needed for everything. And now I

962
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 2: get a phone charger and it's got the other kind

963
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: in it.

964
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: Uh, maybe it's called the lightning no USBC, Yes that one.

965
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 2: Okay, So does that still count about what we're talking about,

966
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: because I'm thinking the USPN we're talking tradition. Yeah, yeah,

967
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 2: you know, it's been around for a couple decades. Like

968
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: I was just in the airport and I was stuck

969
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: there because my flight kept getting delayed, and I own

970
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: this was my fault, ultimately, but I only had the

971
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: like tiny USBC or at the end of my phone charger,

972
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: Like I didn't have the part that plugs into the wall,

973
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: and all the things around me had the wall plug

974
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: and then the big USB and I had to go

975
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: freaking buy a freaking dapter.

976
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 3: Oh that's my worst nightmare, buying electronics at the airport.

977
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was so stupid.

978
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 3: Oh and it would cost one thousand dollars.

979
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: Truly, I can't even think about it. But it was

980
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 2: like so I was like, oh, like in a different

981
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: moment in time, this would have been oh great, there's

982
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: a USB thing, But I'm like, it's just going to

983
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: get outdated soon.

984
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 3: Right, right, wrong, Okay, gift, absolutely a gift. I mean,

985
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: first of all, still mildly convenient. Second of all, their retro,

986
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 3: their chic, their nostalgic. We're all think we're looking at

987
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: those in ten years and thinking, well, I used to

988
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 3: be able to use that back when things were better,

989
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: because things will get worse, yeah, yeah, as they continue

990
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 3: to just slide downhill. Yeah, but we'll be in the airport,

991
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 3: we'll be looking at the USB port and thinking life

992
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 3: was so much simpler when I had the clunky, square

993
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 3: shaped USB, and you'll be able to just kind of

994
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 3: lose yourself at the airport or in a hotel room.

995
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 2: So you're saying I should have had a better attitude.

996
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: You should have I should have looked at that and

997
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: said I miss that happily.

998
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly exactly. We've got to appreciate them while they're

999
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 3: being phased out. And then appreciate them after when they're

1000
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 3: obsolete and kind of taking up space that could be

1001
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: used in better ways. Okay, why are we changing the

1002
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: thing constantly? I don't doesn't it don't feel like it

1003
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: does a better job.

1004
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 2: Oh, it's taking our money.

1005
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 3: It's just it feels like it charges about the same.

1006
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: Why did they take the CD poor out of laptops?

1007
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: They're going nuts? Well, I will say, I finally got

1008
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 3: a new laptop and this has what's called the mag safe,

1009
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 3: which is the magnet one like that. I love that

1010
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 3: so like if it gets pulled, it doesn't like destroy

1011
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 3: the computer.

1012
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: That was a smart I know they did away with

1013
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: that and they're bringing it back.

1014
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 3: Yes, they kind of learned their lesson. I think, well

1015
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 3: then it's nice to see.

1016
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 2: A corporation learn a less Now I'm coveting the new thing.

1017
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: Now I'm looking at it and I kind of want that.

1018
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: I'm essentially driving a Ferrari.

1019
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: It's driving me crazy.

1020
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 3: The mag safe is the ultimate one. That's how it

1021
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: should be for everybody. Yeah, for every port. Let's get

1022
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: into that. Let's get that in places where we need them. Yeah, okay,

1023
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 3: so you did get no point?

1024
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: Okay, which so I'm losing.

1025
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: The audience is upset.

1026
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1027
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 3: Number two, This is from my listener named Anna Gift

1028
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: or a curse clapping at the end of a movie.

1029
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: Gift and why I know that I'm going to get

1030
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: this one wrong. Gift because I don't know. You've experienced

1031
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: something with the community of people that you're now bonded

1032
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: to forever, and you're showing that you were all in

1033
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: it together and appreciating the thing you just saw. Oh

1034
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Sorry, that's a horrible night at the movie.

1035
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 2: It's so fun. But no, you're gonna say it's weird

1036
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: vibe ej.

1037
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: It's a gift. You got it right. Of course, who

1038
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 3: are we to say that not to clap at the

1039
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: end of a movie. We're all erupting. We're feeling like

1040
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: we're feeling renewed and ready to get back out in

1041
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 3: life and take whatever we took from the movie. Yeah,

1042
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: we're stronger because of it. We're growing together.

1043
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1044
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: I mean, if I had one complaint, okay, it's so

1045
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: we would wait until the bear the credits have completely rolled,

1046
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 3: where you've sat through fifteen minutes of credits silently, okay,

1047
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: then erupt into applause.

1048
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: So you're the only one left in the theater clapping

1049
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 2: by yourself.

1050
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: So what I'm yeah, basically saying is I want it

1051
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: to be a solo experience and I want the theater

1052
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 3: employees to be uneasy.

1053
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 2: Oh right, they're yeah, they're cleaning up around you. They're like,

1054
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: please please leave.

1055
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 3: And you're standing ovation, standing up and cheering.

1056
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, No, I do think it is a nice thing,

1057
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: although I do like I feel like, I mean, I'm

1058
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: my best self at the movies.

1059
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 3: Oh in what way?

1060
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: I mean? I'm just so happy. Oh I love going

1061
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: to the movies, and lately I've be come in AMC

1062
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: a lister.

1063
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 3: I am too. Okay, okay, so I have you know,

1064
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 3: it has its ups and downs, and I do feel

1065
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 3: like I'm being blackmailed. Oh yeah, totally because if you

1066
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: you know, if you cancel, they say, well, you can't

1067
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: sign up for another six months, which feels to me.

1068
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: It's strange illegal.

1069
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 3: It does. It's not illegal apparently, but it does seem

1070
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 3: a little like, guys, you'll kill your family member, right.

1071
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: It's kind of like, yeah, are you allowed to tell

1072
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: me that I'm not supposed to do that?

1073
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: Right?

1074
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: I know. I had a friend that canceled and she

1075
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: does regret it everything because she's trapped. Yeah, and it's like, oh,

1076
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: let's go to the movies, and it's like, well, Sophie can't,

1077
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: She's legally not allowed. I Yeah. So I have been

1078
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 2: going to see just so many more movies since becoming

1079
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 2: an a lister, and I do feel like it's opened

1080
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: up this side of me that's like I'll go see

1081
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: anything basically like it's free. Of course it's not.

1082
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 3: You want to get your money's for us.

1083
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so even when I've seen maybe the worst

1084
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: movie I've ever seen in my life, i still feel

1085
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 2: the need to clap because I'm like because I'm just like, woo,

1086
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: we did it like you like and here we are, Like,

1087
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: I'm so jovial. It's crazy. What's the last movie you saw?

1088
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: The last one I saw was Twisters? Oh that's that

1089
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 2: feels like a clapping At the end.

1090
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 3: Of the movie.

1091
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: I was like, look at us, you know, sure that

1092
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 2: was that happened.

1093
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 3: There were the Twisters, there was the Yeah. I don't

1094
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: remember that much else from it. I just remember a

1095
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 3: lot of jarring music cues.

1096
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: The music. I mean, that was awesome.

1097
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 3: That was crazy. Oh so you haven't seen Cuckoo. No, okay,

1098
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: I would love to talk to somebody about Cuckoo. I

1099
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: don't really want to see Cuckoo.

1100
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: That's on my list.

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00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: I will say to anyone listening, absolutely read the Wikipedia

1102
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 3: plot summary before going to see the movie. Why. I

1103
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: may have fallen asleep at some point, but there was

1104
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 3: a point where it's like, what happened?

1105
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: Confusing?

1106
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 3: What is the goal for anyone in this movie?

1107
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: Okay, so if you got confused, definitely I'm going to

1108
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: be confused.

1109
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you know. I mean we are intelligence is

1110
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 3: the vast Gulf. I think it's just like an unbelievably

1111
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: convoluted bizarre It's like it is a bizarre movie. But

1112
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: then it gets a point where it's like, well, I

1113
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 3: don't care, but get you get spooked.

1114
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 2: Okay, there's some some frights and something bad. It sounds bad.

1115
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 3: You'll you'll probably scream a little bit or jump. Okay,

1116
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: there's a scary looking thing, so that's probably worth saying.

1117
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 3: But just try not to care. That's what I'll say.

1118
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: Okay, easy, easy, I don't care about anything.

1119
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so now you've gotten one out of two, which

1120
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 3: is incredible.

1121
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1122
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 3: This is. Finally, the third suggestion is from someone named Gibson,

1123
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: and it says gift or a curse people who send

1124
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 3: you their New York Times wordal results.

1125
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you know that's never happened to me. I

1126
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: don't really know what that says about anything, but I

1127
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: would say I feel like this being sent in tells

1128
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 2: me it's a curse. Okay, right, just something about I'm like,

1129
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: it sounds like you're it sounds like Gibson's annoyed. I

1130
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: don't know, like maybe that's a reach, but I'm kind

1131
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: of like it sounds like they're like, enough.

1132
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 3: I'm taking this to a public may like, stop doing this.

1133
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 3: I will humiliate you. Yeah, okay, so you've never experienced it.

1134
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I also feel like the vibe of, like

1135
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: unprompted sending someone a score on anything you're like a

1136
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: result in this way feels kind of like, I mean,

1137
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 2: I guess what's wrong with sharing your accomplishments if you're

1138
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: proud of it. I maybe we should destigmatize that. I

1139
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: should destigmatize that. But I am like, it does feel

1140
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 2: like you're forcing me to react, Like you're looking for

1141
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: a reaction and you want it to be.

1142
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 3: Good job, honey, you're right. Curse okay, And for me

1143
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 3: this is a curse because I think word's sucks. Yeah.

1144
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: Have you played wordle?

1145
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: I literally never have.

1146
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 3: It's so much a guessing game. Yeah. I don't like

1147
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 3: a guessing I need a little bit more logic. It's

1148
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 3: basically I think it's like five letters or something. I

1149
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: could guess what is the five So there's a there

1150
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 3: is too much of an element of guessing. Yeah, I

1151
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: know there's strategy involved blah blah blah, but I need

1152
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 3: for a moment one to be able to say I

1153
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 3: can think about this and get the answer rather than

1154
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give a word that has the letters that

1155
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 3: uppear most often? Who cares?

1156
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. And I feel like the way that

1157
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 2: it is talked about is like a sort of sort

1158
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 2: of like cultural like it's like, oh, I'm like, I'm

1159
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 2: so smart if you're doing it well, Like I really

1160
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,479
Speaker 2: like attributing it to a certain but what you're saying

1161
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 2: is true. It's like, I mean, is it about being smarter?

1162
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 3: It sounds like someone's a little lucky.

1163
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I think sorry, But like I mean, which

1164
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: is fine, like good to.

1165
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 3: Be lucky if God's watching out for you.

1166
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great, but like it's not. I mean, there's

1167
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 2: other ways to demonstrate in tellidence, you know, send me

1168
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 2: a fact, send me a fact.

1169
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 3: I would love for friends to just send me fact.

1170
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 3: That's actually not a bad idea.

1171
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like fact sharing.

1172
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, to just suddenly get a like a surprise piece

1173
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 3: of information.

1174
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have my friends and I At

1175
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: one point we're doing the like a PowerPoint thing where

1176
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: we were like giving each other presentations on PowerPoint.

1177
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 3: Oh, this is great.

1178
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: About a subject, which I think. I'm like, okay, wait,

1179
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: I should do that again. That's so fun. But it

1180
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: is kind of like, okay, what do you know a

1181
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: lot about right now? It's like you have the floor,

1182
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: like teach us something.

1183
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 3: Do you remember what you taught about?

1184
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 2: Okay, honestly it was about the Bachelor, but it was

1185
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: this was a specific one. It was sort of Bachelor.

1186
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: It was there was a bachelor tilt to it because

1187
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 2: we were kind of like teaching each other about different Okay,

1188
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: but you could do it with any subjects.

1189
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. Yeah, I mean because you kind of

1190
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: stopped giving reports after elementary school.

1191
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like, come on, I mean, are we

1192
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: not all lifelong learners.

1193
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 3: Yes, we're trying. We're absolutely trying, right, and to have

1194
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: the chance to give a report so fine. Oh that

1195
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: sounds wonderful to me.

1196
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1197
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to think. I feel like reports I

1198
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 3: gave in elementary school were on mummies. Oh is it

1199
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 3: the ocean?

1200
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: Very cool?

1201
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 3: Uh? That's those are the two I can remember. Oh

1202
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 3: and I gave no. I think I did a state

1203
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 3: report on Nevada.

1204
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: Oh nice. My state was Georgia. Georgia.

1205
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 3: Did you get to pick?

1206
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 2: I think so, I'm like, why did I pick Georgia?

1207
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 2: That maybe they just designed to do it.

1208
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of what happened with us

1209
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 3: picking states was people really either went for one with

1210
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: Disney property, okay, or like a food that they could

1211
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 3: like give as a sample.

1212
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, I mean freaking that's so cool, right,

1213
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, barbecue Memphis?

1214
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 3: Did you give peaches?

1215
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: That's not his state?

1216
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 3: Georgia?

1217
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: No A. The assignment was you actually wrote a song

1218
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 2: about it and then you performed it at a recital.

1219
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: Oh my, and I will say one of the this

1220
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: was fifth grade. One of the fifth grade teachers pulled

1221
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: me aside and said, your song is the best song.

1222
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 3: Do you remember anything about it? Can you say any

1223
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 3: of it?

1224
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: It was to the tune of my Favorite Things, Like

1225
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: they all like the tune of writing. Oh my god,

1226
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: it's actually so embarrassing because obviously I was obsessed with

1227
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 2: like the fact that I was like, I don't know,

1228
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 2: I'm not a good singer, Like I had never been

1229
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 2: a good singer. But I was like, I sound amazing.

1230
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: And of course it was like I was very like

1231
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: I'm I'm political. I grew up in Portland, Oregon, so

1232
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: of course I had this like also at the time,

1233
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: like big ego about like being like like or like progressive,

1234
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: and so then it's like this weird thing where I

1235
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I'm doing Georgia and like the South.

1236
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: At all I know is that that is there's a

1237
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: lot of complicated stuff, and it's like okay, as if

1238
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: there's not in Portland, organ but whatever. And I and

1239
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 2: so my song was like really about like racism.

1240
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 3: Wow, a racist parent. They're not racist, but uh, pardy

1241
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: about racism? Yeah, set to the tune of my Favorite Things. Yeah, wow,

1242
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: I cannot imagine.

1243
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: It was there was like mention of peaches. There was mention,

1244
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: but it was like it was like trying to do

1245
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: like a political thing, which, of course it's like all

1246
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: very classical, like of course this like fifth grade teacher

1247
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: in Portland was like, sweetie, you're really telling the truth here.

1248
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: It's like, don't let me have that platform?

1249
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 3: Like does video exist?

1250
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: No? I don't know.

1251
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 3: I mean, if it's an audio recording, yeah, I know,

1252
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 3: I should record it now.

1253
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: I wish. And I'm sure that if I, like, if

1254
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: I brought if I reminded my parents of this, I'm

1255
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: sure they would be like, honey, it was. It was

1256
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: pretty amazing. Exactly what's wrong with me?

1257
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 3: I need you get to get into the studio and

1258
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 3: record this for people. I mean maybe that's what the

1259
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: country needs right now.

1260
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: Wait, you're so right.

1261
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's what we're waiting for.

1262
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, for me to speak on the racial

1263
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: dynamics and joyja exactly.

1264
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 3: This will do only good for you.

1265
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so.

1266
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 3: Okay, well you got two out of three. Okay, two

1267
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 3: out of three isn't bad. I mean you started off

1268
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 3: on such a horrible note that I thought I would

1269
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 3: almost just shut the game down. Yeah, I thought you're right,

1270
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 3: kind of just getting a fight with you and then

1271
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 3: ask you to leave. But you turn things around and

1272
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 3: we love that. This is the final segment of the podcast.

1273
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 3: It's called I Said No Emails. People write in I

1274
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 3: Said No Gifts at gmail dot com and they need

1275
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 3: answers they have. You know, people have all kinds of

1276
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 3: things happening in their lives. They're desperate, they're begging, they're

1277
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 3: turning to me and my guests. Let me answer a question. Absolutely, okay,

1278
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 3: this says dear Bridger and disrespectfully beautiful guest, which is

1279
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 3: kind of a bad boy image that you're kind of

1280
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: you're always cultivating it.

1281
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it's really accurate.

1282
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 3: My husband's fortieth birthday is at the end of August.

1283
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: Normally we keep adult birthdays really low key, but since

1284
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 3: this is a milestone birthday, I want to do something

1285
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 3: really special. Historically, my gifts to him are given a

1286
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 3: lackluster acknowledgment of appreciation and generally return to the day

1287
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: they are opened. That is aggressive, beat guys. Ok Is

1288
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 3: it me? Probably? But his love language is gifts. Mine

1289
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 3: is acts of service, and I do my best with

1290
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: that being said, I am a stay at home mom

1291
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 3: with no outside income, so anything bought for him is

1292
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 3: bought with his paycheck. He is very frugal, so I

1293
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 3: feel like his preference would be for me to not

1294
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 3: buy him anything, but that doesn't sit well with me.

1295
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 3: My ideal gift for him would be to organize his

1296
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 3: home office aka the hoarder hole. He has worked from

1297
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: home exclusively since March twenty twenty. These two needs some rooms,

1298
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 3: give him some space. He blurs his Zoom background because

1299
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 3: he is embarrassed of the clutter, and even though I

1300
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 3: have offered several times, he will not let me repay

1301
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 3: and organize his space because I am a minimalist and

1302
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: he believes I will throw everything away. Okay, he's probably right,

1303
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 3: not one hundred percent accurate, but if it doesn't serve

1304
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 3: a purpose it goes in the track, you will do. Yes,

1305
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 3: you will be throwing away valuable items. Paint and shelving

1306
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 3: can get expensive, especially when you're containing mass amounts of

1307
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 3: an unnecessary clutter, and I don't want to go in

1308
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 3: his sacred space without permission. Do I continue to badger

1309
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 3: him about the office. Do I get him nothing, knowing

1310
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 3: that most likely would be his preference. Do I just

1311
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 3: throw a pool party for family and friends. There are

1312
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 3: pools coming into this equation, which could also get expensive

1313
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 3: with food and decorations. Or do I just go on

1314
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 3: the lamb and return in September? Please help? Sinceriust apologies

1315
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 3: for the length of this email not accepted. That apology

1316
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 3: is not accepted. Nicole from Kansas. Nicole's marriage is they

1317
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 3: I mean, she's got to go on a vacation, She's

1318
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 3: got to get away from the sky.

1319
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 2: I am. I'm a little worried he's returning the gifts

1320
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 2: day of Like, it's interesting that she's special. Is that

1321
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 2: his love language is gift giving?

1322
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 3: Is that what she said? Let's see, I want to

1323
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 3: just we want to be fair to oh love languages gifts.

1324
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 2: So I'm like that feels, I'm sorry, like a mismatch

1325
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: if like the gifts aren't I don't know right, Wow.

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01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 3: I mean they've been trapped in the same space since

1327
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 3: March twenty twenty. Yeah, she's kind of like and he's

1328
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 3: just gathering crap, Yeah, bring buying things fro himself, obviously

1329
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 3: bringing them to home, blurring the background. He doesn't want

1330
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 3: whoever's on that zoom to know what's happening. Yeah, so

1331
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 3: he's feeling shame or he's communicating with like a secret

1332
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 3: wife and doesn't want her to be aware of his

1333
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 3: home life.

1334
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: Right, what is this guy?

1335
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: Is bad news?

1336
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1337
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then they have a.

1338
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 2: Pool, so it's like how bad can it be?

1339
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 3: They just like all of their money into the swimming pool.

1340
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I look, it's hard because I hear

1341
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 2: pool party, and that's kind of all I'm thinking about is, Wow,

1342
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: you to have a pool party. But I'm going to

1343
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: try to stay focused here. Yeah, I feel like, I mean,

1344
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: it sounds like I don't want to overreach, but it

1345
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: sounds like maybe there is some like money available, Like

1346
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 2: you guys aren't super super tight on cash, just judging

1347
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 2: by the pool and other things mentioned, right, So I'm

1348
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: wondering if there's an option of like a hiring of

1349
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 2: an outside person who could help with the organization of

1350
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 2: the office.

1351
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 3: Oh.

1352
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 2: Interestingly, because I've heard of this conceptually that like sometimes

1353
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 2: when people are married, the clutter or the dirtiness of

1354
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: the home it's like brings up a lot of dynamics

1355
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: right in the relationships. So it's like, if they have

1356
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 2: access to money, like it can be nicer to have

1357
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 2: to hire someone else to do it.

1358
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 3: Right, So you're not thinking, oh I resent.

1359
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, chuck, Right, this is something that I've heard of, right,

1360
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: because I feel like if she's getting in there and

1361
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 2: she's you know, roaring through stuff, tossing it into the dumpster, right,

1362
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: that's going to lead to bigger problems.

1363
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know, who knows what might be used

1364
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 3: for work. Yeah, and it feels like, I mean, no

1365
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 3: offense in aicle, But it sounds like you're bad at

1366
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 3: organizing this sort of thing. You're just throwing everything away.

1367
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds like there's some serious lapses in

1368
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 2: communication in this relationship.

1369
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 3: She's turned to a podcast host. Yeah, the times that

1370
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 3: spent here, she could have gotten a little job to

1371
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 3: pay for therapy. Right.

1372
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: Okay, this would be my other suggestion for going way

1373
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 2: back to suggest a piece of media for people. The

1374
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 2: show Couples Therapy. Oh is changing my life?

1375
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 3: Ah, I mean, let's just prepare for another hour of

1376
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 3: the poducty.

1377
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, literally the most perfect woman in

1378
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: the world.

1379
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 3: No, we're not moving away from four enough for a minute.

1380
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 3: We watched all four seasons within probably six days.

1381
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: Literally, my partner and I are like, should we want

1382
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 2: another episode? Is that crazy? Like we're obsessed?

1383
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 3: How far into it are you?

1384
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 2: So we just finished season one, halfway through season two.

1385
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 3: Okay, it all kind of blurs together for me, it's

1386
01:04:58,760 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 3: season two.

1387
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: That's like mekl and Michael.

1388
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 3: Oh yo, that yeah, that's situation is it looks I

1389
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 3: all over the place?

1390
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 2: Crazy stuff. Doesn't it make you feel so much better

1391
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 2: about your relationship?

1392
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 3: We would say that at the end of every episode,

1393
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 3: it's like, Oh, we don't really have problems.

1394
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 2: You're like, wait, we literally love each other. That's crazy.

1395
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: We're not like screaming at each other.

1396
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: And just like in hysterics, no, I know, because it's like, well,

1397
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 2: we know how to talk to each other, and a

1398
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 2: lot of these people literally don't know how to talk

1399
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 2: to her at all. And they are and they've been

1400
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 2: together for some of them a long.

1401
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 3: Time, years and years and years.

1402
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 2: So crazy. But get to have Orna, I mean, I know,

1403
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 2: just so soothing she is. And then when she talks

1404
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 2: to her advisor about.

1405
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 3: Oh I love the advisor, the advisor always looks wet. Yeah, yea,

1406
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 3: I see someone's dumped a bucket of water over her.

1407
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 3: And then they're like, Okay, let's get the shot.

1408
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 2: She's busy, she's she's thinking about everybody else's stuff. Her

1409
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 2: pasture is always like always yeah, fall is like love, yeah, yeah.

1410
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 3: I want to name the advisor. What is her name? Virginia,

1411
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 3: Virginia Goldener. We need to give her credit because she

1412
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 3: is amazingly maybe the star of the show.

1413
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so like when the two of them

1414
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 2: are talking, I'm like, oh, I want to.

1415
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 3: Be in that ar I'm like soaking up.

1416
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: I love the way they speak to each other, and

1417
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 2: I truly feel like I'm learning something every episode.

1418
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 3: And to see someone like Orna, who clearly knows so

1419
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 3: much still willing to learn.

1420
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 2: No, yeah, exactly because you're like she is, I would say,

1421
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 2: by any standard, an expert in her fields. Yes, And

1422
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 2: yet of course there is someone she goes to with questions.

1423
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 3: There's always somebody who knows a little bit more.

1424
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 2: As we all should be willing to do is admit

1425
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 2: I don't know the.

1426
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 3: Answer to this right now. There's there's one thing I

1427
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 3: will say about the entire show that about once a season,

1428
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 3: I'll have to thought, well, what if she's a bad therapist.

1429
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 3: I've never seen a couple's therapies. Yeah, maybe this is

1430
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 3: just like baseline.

1431
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 2: I know, but I will say I've seen a regular,

1432
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 2: regular therapist, right, and definitely like she is better than.

1433
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 3: A lot of the Yeah, I mean.

1434
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: What's also then you kind of have to do the

1435
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 2: thing of like these people are being there is a

1436
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 2: camera in the room.

1437
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 3: Yes, which always well not in the room apparently through

1438
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 3: two way mirrors. No way. Yes, I think there's like

1439
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 3: a whole construct that's like man that tries I mean,

1440
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 3: but they're obviously aware there.

1441
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 2: Okay, but that does make me feel better because I

1442
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 2: was picturing like a camera guy like it's like.

1443
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 3: Well, can we get that again?

1444
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:35,959
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1445
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, say that line one more time?

1446
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, which would be crazy, but also you know what

1447
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean, but it is.

1448
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 3: So beautifully shot. Intimately why I.

1449
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 2: Want to be in her office. I'm like, her dog

1450
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: comes in. I'm like, oh this guy again.

1451
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 3: You know, Nicole from Kansas, can we recommend? I think

1452
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 3: what Nicole from Kansas needs to do is sign herself

1453
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 3: and ungrateful husband up for a seven day trial of

1454
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 3: Paramount Plus yeah free, yeah, and then binge this show together.

1455
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 2: It Like, genuinely I think it could be a nice, like, oh, like,

1456
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 2: let's watch this show, Like you're not saying, let's go

1457
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 2: to couples therapy right, which, by the way, once you know,

1458
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: I do think that's also a very normal thing to do.

1459
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,919
Speaker 2: People say, do it before the problems? Yes, but yeah harmful.

1460
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 2: Oh I heard about this show. We could watch it,

1461
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 2: you know, right, that's perfect. See what it brings out.

1462
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 3: I will say when I've recommended a couple of therapy

1463
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 3: tes certain friends who are in a relationship, you get

1464
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 3: a real sense of what might be happening in their

1465
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 3: relationship by the way they accept the recommendation to the show,

1466
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 3: like oh no, I oh no, now I know something

1467
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 3: about the two of you.

1468
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know totally. They're like, oh, I don't

1469
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 2: know if we would. I don't know, but I do

1470
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 2: you think that would be fun for us to watch her?

1471
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 3: You're like, I'm gonna go, Nicole, Okay, here's the final

1472
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 3: This is the gift pool party with one of those

1473
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 3: floating movie screens. Yes, projecting Apples therapy with your free

1474
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:06,440
Speaker 3: trial to Paramount plus Bliss. The whole family watching Couple's Therapy.

1475
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 3: It's all unfolding. Problems will arise, problems will be solved. Ye, yeah,

1476
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 3: a fortieth to remember a fortieth. I mean, he'll try

1477
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 3: to forget col if I ever hear from you again.

1478
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 3: I mean it's I will shut down my inbox. Just

1479
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 3: back off. Oh J. The journey we've been through here

1480
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 3: are I mean, I mean it's just been a journey

1481
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 3: of a lifetime.

1482
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:36,919
Speaker 2: We covered everything.

1483
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,759
Speaker 3: We covered I mean the basically the formation of the planet,

1484
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 3: all the way up to Orna.

1485
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was at the top the peak

1486
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 2: of evolution.

1487
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 3: Is kind of a guy, a mother figure. So maybe

1488
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 3: she's kind of the bookend to Earth. That makes sense

1489
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 3: to me.

1490
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 2: I stand by that completely. Orna reach out, Oh my

1491
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: god or not. If you're listening, you've changed my life.

1492
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: I think about you a lot.

1493
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 3: I don't just think about I feel you're just flowing

1494
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 3: through my.

1495
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 2: Blood, like genuinely, it's like haha. But also like I lately,

1496
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 2: when I've been like in conversation with someone, I'm listening,

1497
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the way that she listens. I'm like,

1498
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 2: how do I kind of channel that?

1499
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 3: It's so amazing, so amazing. She's so expressive, Yes, incredible

1500
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 3: human being.

1501
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 2: EJ.

1502
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 3: I'm so thankful to have these rocks God, I'm so good.

1503
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be able to display them. I will not

1504
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 3: be able to teach a thing about them, but that's fine.

1505
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 2: Don't need it.

1506
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 3: Listener, look for EJ as a Docentaton Canyon. Yeah, also

1507
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 3: look up EJ online Instagram. This sort of thing. I

1508
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 3: feel like it didn't quite get into self promotion in

1509
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 3: a way that I would have encouraged, that I would

1510
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 3: have appreciated. So, you know, Instagram, you're probably on other things.

1511
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I have a TikTok Okay, I am on Twitter.

1512
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 3: That one's weirder that one's graveyard.

1513
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 2: Graveyard don't yeah, actually erase that.

1514
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 3: It's kind of like wandering through a tomb like spiderwebs.

1515
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 2: Oh god, it's really upsetting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I heard somebody sincerely refer to it as

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Speaker 3: X the other day giving that Twitter always. Yeah, okay, this,

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Speaker 3: thank you for being here.

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Speaker 2: I've had a wonderful time for having me. This was epic.

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Speaker 3: Listener, the podcast is over. Maybe look up some of

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Speaker 3: those rocks and try to teach yourself something. That's the

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01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 3: utility of this podcast. We spark an interest and then

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Speaker 3: you learn on your own. So we're companions rather than

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01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 3: I'm not just the teacher. We're basically on the same level.

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Speaker 3: So that's why we are a better podcast than the Daily.

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Speaker 3: This is the end of the show. I love you goodbye.

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Speaker 3: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

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Speaker 3: produced by our dear friend on Aalise Nilson, and it's beautifully

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Speaker 3: mixed by Ben Talla and we couldn't do it without

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Speaker 3: our guest booker, Patrick Coottner. The theme song, of course,

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Speaker 3: could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must

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Speaker 3: follow the show on Instagram at I said no Gifts,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you

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Speaker 3: get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting,

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Speaker 3: And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts?

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Speaker 1: And I invited you hear found a man myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 1: When you're a guest to me, you gotta come to

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Speaker 1: me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences presence

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Speaker 1: enough and I already too much stuff, So how do

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Speaker 1: you dare to survey me