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Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Passing from ESPN, who does a great job covering baseball,

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Speaker 1: spoke to my baseball writing class at USC a couple

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Speaker 3: It's good, good, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: We love Jeff, we do, but he tweeted something that

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with.

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Speaker 4: Well, he put out a whole ass column about it. Yes,

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Speaker 4: and shout out to Jeff for doing the lord's work.

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Speaker 4: And now, obviously last night's game, big game for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: They go up to two zero in the series.

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Speaker 4: Coming back to La Yamamoto after Blake's now went eight innings,

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Speaker 4: say I'm gonna do one, but I'm going nine innings.

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Speaker 1: And thank god that they didn't like feel compelled to

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Speaker 3: Let the guy pick.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I'm glad you said that. Rob Cat to Roger

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Speaker 5: we gotta make sure because we all complained about it,

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Speaker 5: ask for it, and they finally did it.

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Speaker 4: So because my goodness, guys, the Dodgers starting eer in

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Speaker 4: this series is zero point five to three. They are

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Speaker 4: looking like the juggernaut we expect them to be. They

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Speaker 4: are looking inevitable. At this point, back to back champs

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Speaker 4: seems like a foregone conclusion. However, Jeff Passon, We're call

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Speaker 4: on a friend of the show because its a friend

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Speaker 4: of yours, put out a article actually before the NLCS

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Speaker 4: explaining how this particular series was gonna serve as kind

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Speaker 4: of like a proxy for the upcoming labor agreement between

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Speaker 4: Baseball and the Players Association, And what he said was

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Speaker 4: if the Dodgers end up winning this series and eventually

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Speaker 4: going back to back, that the lockout is a four

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Speaker 4: gone conclusion because owners are already upset about the Dodger

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Speaker 4: big spending this pass offseason and last offseason, and if

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Speaker 4: they seal the deal once again with a dominant run

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Speaker 4: to the championship, it's gonna be bad for the sport

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Speaker 4: and it's gonna force them to bring in a salary cap.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree?

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Speaker 1: I totally disagree with Jeff passes. The foregone conclusion might

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Speaker 1: be just that that's gonna happen anyway, regardless whether the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers win or not. The numbers don't even add up

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Speaker 1: TV ratings through the roof attendance records. Right in baseball,

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Speaker 1: all those things you want to see for the sport, right,

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Speaker 3: All that stuff. Everything is up.

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Speaker 1: And guess what, Jeff, The Texas Rangers are smaller market team,

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Speaker 3: Guess what.

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Speaker 1: They won the World Series two years ago, not ten

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Speaker 1: years ago, not fifteen. Oh, they can't compete. The Texas

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Speaker 1: Rangers won the World Series. Detroit is a mid market

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Speaker 1: in this two years in the row they made the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Guess what.

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Speaker 1: Seattle's payrolls one hundred and thirty six million, right, are

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Speaker 3: Chance to win the World Series? They're in the mix?

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Speaker 3: Come on with the money.

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Speaker 1: The Yankees haven't won since since two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 3: You want me to keep going to.

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Speaker 1: The Chicago Cubs, the third biggest city, right it took

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Speaker 1: They hadn't won in like eighty six or seven years.

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Speaker 1: I could go on and on and on. Money does

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Speaker 3: Stop with it. If you and we have the same

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Speaker 1: Chance to win. Why don't the Yankees win? Before the

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't add up. How did those teams not win?

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Speaker 1: The Phillies haven't won when they win two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 5: just like, oh we didn't have a shot. No, teams

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Speaker 5: Sox have won in two thousand and five. You got

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Speaker 5: your point, the big teams didn't win it for decades. Now,

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Speaker 5: we didn't win the last six seven, eight years. The

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Speaker 5: hundred eight years for the Cubs, right, eighty some years

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Speaker 5: and the now sixteen which is a lot for the Yankees.

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Speaker 5: So that's not since eighty seven, the met since eighty six.

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Speaker 5: So when you go there also a couple of things too.

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Speaker 5: Your scouting team can go in grab players from across

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Speaker 5: it makes it's fair market. Now you can go get guys.

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Speaker 5: And now you might not be able to sign Yoshi

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Speaker 5: get guys. You can improve your fig system as you

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Speaker 5: real thing is the league needs to have a salary floor.

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Speaker 1: See, I'm gonna tell you why I'm against the salary

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Speaker 3: True, do you know what I mean? Like, here's ben point.

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Speaker 1: There are bench players who are making a lot of

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Speaker 3: That, So they got to get cashed out. That's what

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Speaker 3: the here's where I get. That's what I get. Your point.

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Speaker 3: Get your point.

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Speaker 5: The problem, the challenge that I would have with that

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Speaker 5: get to just cash out. We're not doing anything. We're

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Speaker 5: not necessarily trying to compete. We're not fielding a best team.

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Speaker 5: Our fans are mad, you know, mad everybody, But the

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Speaker 5: money is green. It's coming there year after year. We're

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Speaker 5: making more. When you at least put a floor, it

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Speaker 5: doesn't have to be high. But you're saying some type

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Speaker 3: You have to be competing.

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Speaker 5: I'm okay with that, but yeah, you get got because

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Speaker 5: I gotta meet the ninety or one hundred million. So

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Speaker 5: I get that, but I think you just to me,

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Speaker 5: you're you're you're at least creating a scenario where your

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Speaker 5: you're really trying. And so yeah, they don't. I don't

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Speaker 5: agree with this at all. There's too much evidence. Again,

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Speaker 5: it'st it, and I do think there's just an issue

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Speaker 5: Bryce Harper going at him, He's going at Bryce, and

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Speaker 5: there's something brewing there.

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Speaker 3: Well that's because there is. I get it.

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Speaker 1: They would like to put a cap and try to

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Speaker 1: you can make that argument, but don't use competitive balance

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Speaker 5: The ones with caps have it have the same teams

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Speaker 5: winning way more frequently than in baseball, like not even close.

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Speaker 3: Get him, Polly.

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Speaker 4: So SGA was asked about this idea of these guys

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Speaker 4: playing late into their thirties, even into their forties. Right,

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Speaker 4: Here's what SGA said. I definitely think I can. I

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Speaker 4: my kid's life. There is a certain point of your

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Speaker 4: Guys are still playing. They love the game, but I

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Speaker 4: just feel like you play this game ultimately to see

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Speaker 4: the best version of me I can be. Once I

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Speaker 4: figure that out and I start going down, then it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: what am I playing for now?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: Flash forward to today.

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Speaker 4: Russell Westbrook former Laker, four, former Rocket, former Thunder, former Jazz,

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Speaker 3: We don't have all day?

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Speaker 4: I signed a one year VET minimum deal to join

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Speaker 4: the Sacramento Kings and finish thirteenth in the Western Conference.

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Speaker 4: Rob what's up with guys like Russ and others? He

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Speaker 3: Do you are to turn now? Let me roll my

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Speaker 5: Because rob G? No, he finna be scrapping. Yes, Finnah

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Speaker 3: That's such a small minority of people get to do.

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Speaker 5: You get to be an NBA player four hundred and

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Speaker 3: One I'm gonna bring.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there are kids in this country who don't know

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Speaker 5: I just think there's such a small mind minority of

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Speaker 5: If I get to make hey, I make two three

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Speaker 3: Why not? And the most important, I think their families

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 3: They kind of know. The fans all in. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Tom Brady's wife knew too, and she bounced. He went

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Speaker 3: Rob G.

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Speaker 1: I know there was some chatter, you know, the talking

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Speaker 1: this year. Their offense obviously has gotten better, but people

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not just the talking heads, Rob because Lamar Mitchell,

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Speaker 4: Sheckel City. Keep doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: You thank you, new tower coming. Yes, don't hit the

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Speaker 3: reset button again, keep doing it, uh, Lamar Mitchell. Bet MGM.

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Speaker 4: Friends of the Show put out the updated NFL MVP

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Speaker 4: odds today, and I'll give you one guess who is

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Speaker 4: now the favorite, a slight favorite, but the favorite nonetheless

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Speaker 4: to win the award this season. It's not Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 4: opened up as the favorite. It's not Matthew Stafford. It's

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Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 4: It is none other than mister three and three himself,

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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes at plus two hundred to win the NFL

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Speaker 4: MVP at bet MGM, he is the favorite.

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Speaker 1: Right now, here we go again. They're living in the past.

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Speaker 1: They so want Patrick Mahomes to be that guy, and

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Speaker 1: I get it. They're living in the past of what

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Speaker 1: he used to be. And even this year, like last year,

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Speaker 1: he didn't get one single first place vote for MVP,

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Speaker 1: and this year he should not get if we were

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Speaker 1: voting right now, one single vote, not one. First of all,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are three and three. The teams that he's

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Speaker 1: beaten have a record of seven and twelve. He'd beat

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Speaker 1: Baltimore one and five, the Giants two and five, and

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Speaker 1: the Lions four and two. Okay, his passer rating, he's

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Speaker 1: had four games so far under ninety two, the league average.

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Speaker 1: That's that's right under ninety two. He also beat quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: like Cooper Rush Russell Wilson, so he beats some also rams,

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Speaker 1: which is fine.

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Speaker 7: Here's the other part. Patrick Mahomes is not rob g

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Speaker 7: repeat after me, not.

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Speaker 1: Nt in the top twenty in completion, not in the

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Speaker 1: top twenty.

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Speaker 3: Wow, in completions.

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Speaker 1: You know where he is in passer rating eighteenth, that's

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Speaker 1: below middle of the pack, which is fifteen sixteenth. Right,

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Speaker 1: He's eighteenth passer rating, seventh in touchdown passes with one

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Speaker 1: more than Lamar who's miss games, and he's tied with Tua,

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Speaker 1: whose team can't win. Stop with wanting to fall in

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Speaker 1: love with Patrickrick Mahomes because what he did to start

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Speaker 1: his career, I'll give it to you. It was magical.

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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable to watch. He's not that dude, dear,

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Speaker 1: three and three, he's twentieth in completion percentage, twentieth to zero. Wow,

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Speaker 1: eighteenth quarter passer rating. How is that MVP? No, that's

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Speaker 1: not MVP when your team is three and three, you

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Speaker 1: hear me, saga, I'm right, I'm totally right. Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: deserves zero and VP votes right here, right now at

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Speaker 1: three and three. So you're wrong, per usual. Now here's

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Speaker 1: why you're wrong. He's not gonna win it.

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Speaker 5: But the idea that he is going to be the leader,

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Speaker 5: to me is not crazy because people, this is what

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Speaker 5: I said you three when they beat the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 5: I said, this offense is about to explode, and since

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Speaker 5: then it has for him. Since then, this offense is clicked.

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Speaker 5: Last season, you kept bringing up how the stats were

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Speaker 5: very close to Aaron Rodgers this season. Right now, he

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Speaker 5: has eleven touchdowns and two interceptions. He's on the roll

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Speaker 5: right now, fifteen plus fifteen hundred yards to be more

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Speaker 5: like the Patrick Mahomes of old you mentioned last season.

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Speaker 5: I think last season is gonna work in his favorite

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Speaker 5: this season because the last two seasons, actually Patrick mahonmes

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Speaker 5: numbers weren't spectacular. Patrick Mahomes wasn't looking like what we

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Speaker 5: had become a custom to seeing. I think that is

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Speaker 5: why people are gonna go, that's the guy we knew.

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Speaker 5: Those are the plays we used to seeing. Look at

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Speaker 5: him going down the field way more than he's going

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Speaker 5: to the last couple of years. Look at him have

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Speaker 5: any spectacular plays, and not to mention, I think that

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Speaker 5: it's gonna work in favor of him that the season

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Speaker 5: won't be a fifteen to two kind of I think

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Speaker 5: the season gonna be one of those They're gonna lose

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Speaker 5: a couple, then they're gonna win three four in a row.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna lose a couple, and they're gonna work their

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Speaker 5: way into the postseason. And I think that's gonna work

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Speaker 5: in his favor because people will be able to see, oh,

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Speaker 5: he had to do it a different way. Right, it

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Speaker 5: wasn't just easy and they were fifteen to two and

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Speaker 5: they just won all these games. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 5: be that's gonna work in his favor, that they're gonna

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Speaker 5: feel like, Man, what about the numbers.

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Speaker 8: I'm telling you so remember the twentieth and eight six

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Speaker 8: isn't today I hear.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you about projection. No, they're talking about right

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Speaker 3: now he should be the lead on Favorite based on

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Speaker 3: these numbers because they don't see what's coming.

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Speaker 10: No, they don't see what's coming. He hasn't beaten any body,

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Speaker 10: he hasn't been said he was coming. No, I don't

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Speaker 10: see it because he didn't anybody. He's number one receivers.

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Speaker 9: Oh, it's about what you've done and what you've accomplished

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Speaker 9: to this point, and right now, no one is if

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Speaker 9: they're safety and Rosse already eighteen the odds on Favor

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Speaker 9: on the road, what is it?

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Speaker 5: What Rob?

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Speaker 3: It's the odds on Favorite.

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Speaker 5: I'm just talking about the MVP, meaning they're saying we

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Speaker 5: still have ten weeks left. No, there is who we

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Speaker 5: think he's gonna win it, and they're seeing what he's

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Speaker 5: about to keep doing for another ten weeks. I don't

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Speaker 5: think he's going to win it, but the idea that

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Speaker 5: why he would be the favorite makes sense because he's

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Speaker 5: going to do it. Ended up statistically, he's gonna be

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Speaker 5: right there with the top two three guys. Statistically, he's

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Speaker 5: probably gonna beat most of the guys.

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Speaker 3: If he's eighteenth and twenties. You're gonna jump over all

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Speaker 3: this because it's literally coming. I told you this against Baltimore.

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Speaker 5: I literally told you all the dink and dunk stuff

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Speaker 5: gone two hundred and seventy yards, four touchdowns against the

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Speaker 5: Ravens in the next time touchdown on Lamar who not

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Speaker 5: even playing. Well, we know Lamar is always MVP candidate.

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Speaker 5: We know that that's not even that's Lamar's Lamar, And

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Speaker 5: so this is he's on his way and they're already

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Speaker 5: seeing he's doing this, and Rashid Rice is getting ready

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Speaker 5: to come back, and he's starting to look like him.

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Speaker 5: He's starting to look stylistically like him, doing plays going downfield,

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Speaker 5: doing trick plays are worthy.

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Speaker 3: It's on the way where.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna be right back in that candidate, and I

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Speaker 5: already told you she's gonna be right back in an

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Speaker 5: AFC championship game.

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Speaker 3: We're all gonna see here and be like, wait, how

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Speaker 3: did this happen? Again? It's on the way and to me,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't take a rocket science to see that. Now.

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Speaker 5: I still again, I think Baker Mayfield is the leader

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Speaker 5: and probably as long as the team doesn't go take

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Speaker 5: some epic fall, because he should be getting receivers back

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Speaker 5: because he's doing this without a lot of guys. I

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Speaker 5: think is Baker's year. I think it's gonna be a

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Speaker 5: great storyline. I think it's Baker. But the idea that

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes won't finish top be right there because we

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Speaker 5: know who actually should be getting it other than Baker.

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Speaker 5: It's me John Robinson. But we know running backs don't

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Speaker 5: get it for some reason. Running backs you only get

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Speaker 5: the Offensive Player of the year, guys, So here's your

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Speaker 5: Just call it the running back of the year called

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Speaker 5: Quarterback of the year, so we can all stop acting

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Speaker 5: like an MVP can be anything but a quarterback. So

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Speaker 5: just call it the MVQ Most Valuable Quarterback Awards.

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Speaker 1: Isn't Rice also coming off the torn acl Lon's going

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Speaker 1: off the suspension, right, but he's still coming in. That

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Speaker 1: was that was a bag It usually takes a couple

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Speaker 1: of years to recover from that, so you're acting like

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Speaker 1: he's gonna automatically. I know he's been on suspension, but

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Speaker 1: he's coming off from major injury too.

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Speaker 3: I'm not worried about that. Okay,