1 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Sabor production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm Annie Reese and I'm Lauren bog Obam, and today 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: we have an episode for you about beer Yanni. Yes, 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: as alluded to in our recent Listener Maile episode, this 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: is the quickest I gave into a craving. Yeah, you're 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: usually pretty good about that. Actually, I feel like of 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: the two of us, like like I'll be like, oh, 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: I need that immediately, and then I order it and 9 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: You're like, no, I'm gonna eat my sad single packet 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: of ramen and my happy single packet of ram Yeah. 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: I so I had run out of food. I knew 12 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: I needed to order food that night. It was kind 13 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: of circumstances. I was going to order a food no 14 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: matter what. But this was I mean, within an hour 15 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: of the research starting, I was like, yeah, yeah, that's it, 16 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: That's just what I need. And it was delicious and 17 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: it was so warm and like full of spices and 18 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: textures and I hadn't had it in so long. I 19 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: was just so very comforting and savory and warm. It 20 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: was good. Yeah. I I also have ordered some during 21 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: during this research process. Um and uh, oh my goodness, 22 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: it's it is. It is one of the things that 23 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: I probably crave the most period. Yeah. I ordered mine. 24 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: There was like a five level of spice you could 25 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: choose from, and I did the level four. That might 26 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: have been a mistake, Um it was. It was enough 27 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: to get the tears a little flowing then, know that. 28 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, but it's funny because you can't 29 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: tell those restaurants sometimes then maybe a three, and it 30 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: depends on it depends on the cook who's in that day. 31 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: Like right, like I I've had I've ordered from the 32 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: same place as around town and sometimes it's just like 33 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: it's just gonna burn your face off. And sometimes they're like, 34 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna pull back on that, and I'm like, oh no, 35 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: which one. It's a fun surprise though, I'll take that. That's, 36 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, on the scale of like surprises, that's a 37 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: great one. Yeah, I agree, I agree it was. It 38 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: was a moment a learning experience for me though, because 39 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: it's been a long time since I've been kind of 40 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: cowed by spices. But I'm gonna gonna have to take 41 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: my time on this one. Get a little extra extra 42 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: right down there. Yeah, yes, yes, I definitely pulled that 43 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: whole thing in there. Uh, and yes, I did have 44 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: some good beer Yanni and India. It was on the 45 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: very first things I ordered, and it came out in 46 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: this lovely pot. It smells so heavily like when you 47 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: opened it came out, it was so delicious. People are 48 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: jealous at the table, people were jealous. Um, but yeah, 49 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: the cravings, like, even that I've had it, I would 50 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: like some more. Yeah, I like have some leftovers in 51 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: my fridge and I still like, like every moment that 52 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: I am not eating it, I'm doing this reading. I 53 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: was just like, I didn't go get some more, Like, 54 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: why why am I not doing that? Why am I 55 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: not eating it right now? I could be I agree, Lauren, 56 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: if we can, it's gonna be our first eating podcast, 57 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: and everyone will immediately unsubscribe except for a select few. 58 00:03:54,920 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: And I am not judging you. You you do you. 59 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: You can see our past episodes we've done on rice. Um. 60 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: I think our Saffron episode is probably relevant. Several spice 61 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: episodes we've done probably relevant. But yeah, those are the 62 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: two that came to my mind. But I guess this 63 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: brings us to our question Beard Yanni, what is it? Well, 64 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: very Janni is a one pot rice based main dish, 65 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: fragrant and pungent with herbs and spices and studded with 66 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: the chunks of tasty things. Um. It's like a like 67 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: a spicy sauceless risotto. Like a like a fried rice 68 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: that's that's baked or steamed instead of fried. Like a 69 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: like a steamed South Asian peah, like a like a 70 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: pull off that wants you to live your best life. 71 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: Thanks pull off. Right, the cravings are starting already, right, 72 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Um, all right, the star of the 73 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: dish here is that rice. Um. It's not sticky at all. 74 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: Every grain is all dente and separate and well seasoned 75 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: and perfect. Um. Buzz body is often used buzz body rice. 76 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: It's a long grain rice that doesn't puff up very 77 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: much when it cooks um and has a nutty and 78 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: slightly floral scent. The seasonings that you use with it 79 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: can include things like cardamom, cinnamon, cloves, bay, nutmeg, black pepper, 80 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: fennel seeds, star anise. You're usually also adding a punch 81 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: of flavor from caramelized onions in there um, and some 82 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: color and flavor from stuff like turmeric and saffron. Turmeric 83 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: there you get another episode in there um and some 84 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: brightness from fresh herbs like mint and clauntro, maybe some 85 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: citrus even. Um. It's it's a mix that's floral and 86 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: warm and earthy, and uh, the nks of tasty things 87 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: can be a whole range of stuff, though chicken or 88 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: lamb or mutton or goat are perhaps the most common. Uh, 89 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: hard boiled egg. Vegetables like eggplant, um and pineer, which 90 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: are you know, like springy blocks of fresh cheese, yeah, 91 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: are also pretty popular. Or fish or shrimp or jackfruit 92 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: or cofta um, like like a like meatball sausage kind 93 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: of stuff U or uh, you know anything, especially if 94 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: you're using meat, you're generally going to marinate it in 95 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: stuff like yogurt, ginger, garlic, chilies, maybe tomato, and that 96 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: marinade is gonna wind up providing a good bit of 97 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: the cooking liquid that you use for the rice. Beyond that, Uh, 98 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: these are kind of like basics quote unquote, because there 99 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: are dozens and dozens of styles of Berrianni. It's one 100 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: of those dishes that every region and every family has 101 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: like a correct way to make. UM. And so you know, 102 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: like like local grains and proteins and vegetables are going 103 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: to be used based on availability and preferences. But then like, 104 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like do you use whole or ground spices? 105 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: Do you add in a layer of dried fruit and 106 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: crunchy nuts? For contrast? Um? Do you add in a 107 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: layer of potato? Well, that's the liquid component? Is it? Water? Stock, milk, 108 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: coconut milk? Um? Do you put rose water in there? 109 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um do you par cook various ingredients 110 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: before adding them together? The spelling and pronunciation can differ. Um, 111 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: it can be by any. I don't don't come, don't 112 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: come for me? I I don't. I don't have an 113 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: opinion about this. I'm just reporting. Um it is a 114 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: very any without meat. Just to pull out I'm nervous. 115 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: I again, I am only reporting. I have my hands up. 116 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: It's just you know, you know, Yeah, I feel like 117 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: this is a test, Okay, it's it's I love. I 118 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: love these things that people have such beautifully strong opinions about. Yes, 119 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: I do as well at any rate. Um, A style 120 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: of low and slow cooking called dumb is usually employed 121 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: here or I'm going to say almost always yes, uh, 122 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: in which UM, you assemble your ingredients either par cooked 123 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: or raw in layers in a deep pot um with 124 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: just enough cooking liquids so that when you seal it 125 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: with a heavy lid as in a Dutch oven, or 126 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: more traditionally with a with a ring of dough, everything 127 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: will just gently steam to perfection. Um. It does take 128 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: a while though. Um. This is not like a quick 129 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: weeknight thing, but like a celebration sort of dish, or 130 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: at the very least like a Sunday supper kind of thing. Um. 131 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: It's served hot, sometimes yes, straight from the pot that 132 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: you like, open at the table to get that sensory 133 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: experience of the of the steam coming off. And it 134 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: might be topped with more fresh herbs, slices of onion 135 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: raw or fried uh, maybe a wedge of fresh lemon 136 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: or lime for squeezing. It is often served with right 137 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: the which is a sauce made from yogurt and a 138 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: little bit of usually crunchy vedged like a cucumber um, 139 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: seasoned with herbs and spices like like mint and coriander. Um. 140 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: It's meant to be cooling in contrast, right with the 141 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: spice of the Berryanni and I have not tried making it, 142 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: but I've heard that it's difficult to get right and 143 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: it's a little bit like nail biting at the end 144 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: there when you crack open the cooking vessel. Um. Which 145 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: helps explain why it might be like a popular restaurant order. Yeah, 146 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: and more on that in a second. Yeah, it sounds 147 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: intense to me. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. All the recipes 148 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: that I found owned are like okay, like dig in 149 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: because like these like like here are all of the 150 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: preparations for all of the ingredients and this is what 151 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: you want to do with them and be very careful 152 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: about it. And I'm like, oh no, who look, see 153 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: if you make it, well, what about the nutrition? You know? Um, 154 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: it depends on what you make it with, perhaps obviously. UM. 155 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: I've had versions that are a little bit heavier with 156 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: like a with like a lot of ge clarified butter, 157 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: you know. Um. And I've had versions that are a 158 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: little bit lighter tasting, but you know, it's a it's 159 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: a very carbon protein heavy dish generally, um. And so 160 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, as always eat a vegetable, but but yeah, 161 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: like like really like like good like comfort like stick 162 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: to your ribs kind of food. Yeah, I got one 163 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: like a I would assume like a standard medium non 164 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: large order and it lasts me three days. Uh yeah, 165 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: it's so good. It is so good. Uh. Well, we're 166 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: not the only ones that think that we do have 167 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: some numbers for you. We do. According to numbers collected 168 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: from food delivery platform Swiggy and reported on by Times 169 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: of India, quote, Indians ordered an average of beer Yannis 170 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: per minute or one point six bier Yannis per second, 171 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: and that was the third year in a row that 172 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: it was Swiggy's most ordered dish. Dang yeah um, and 173 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: that that number might have actually gone up during COVID 174 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: lockdowns that began, of course, in because reports began just 175 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: pouring in that beer Yanni was um the most ordered 176 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: takeaway slash delivery dish of the lockdown in India. Um, 177 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: butter non being a runner up along with a ma 178 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: solid dosso, which is like a like a savory rice 179 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: and lentil crape kind of situation that be stuffed with 180 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: various things anyway. Um uh, these are all generally popular 181 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: restaurant orders. Um. But another number that I read was 182 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: at some s of those Berryanni orders came from people 183 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: living alone. Um and psychologists were talking a lot about 184 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: about that and about the trend in general um about 185 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: very any being just such like a like a nostalgic 186 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: um festive, like like one dish comfort food, you know, 187 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: like if you're only going to order one thing, it's 188 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: it's just such a nice, single, simple like yeah, I'm 189 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: just gonna put that on my face now kind of 190 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: but also lovely and like and like something. I read 191 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: a lot about it being something that people remember from 192 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: parties from their childhood and just having right, having that 193 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: nostalgia factor. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to 194 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: me if you're isolated and living alone during the quarantine, 195 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: that you would seek out a dish that reminds you 196 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: of of these happy people right right people populated times. 197 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah mm hmmmmmmmm. Well we do have some history for you. 198 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: We do. But first we've got a quick break for 199 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsored, Yes, 200 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: thank you. So probably no surprise, but the history of 201 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: your Yawnie is one full of twist and turns. Oh yes, 202 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: And to be honest, like there are several when we 203 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: do these dish episodes, it's hard not to get lost 204 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: in where every ingredient came from and how it all 205 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: came together eventually, and you know, we try to touch 206 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: on that, but it's just a lot. Yeah, yeah, and 207 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: the and this one in particular having like so many 208 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: different regional variations and and we have gone into this 209 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: right in our episodes of out stuff like a pea 210 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: or jambalaya or stuff like that, where it is such 211 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: a intrinsically multicultural dish and um, and so you know, 212 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: like but like buzz Bodi rice is a different episode. Um. 213 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,599 Speaker 1: But yeah, but it's also not always made with this 214 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: body rice. So like how much do you go into 215 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: that kind of thing? And in the history part of 216 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, you know, yes that I suspectful listeners are 217 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: well aware as well. Um, but okay. While popular historical 218 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: retellings credit the Moughal invaders who ruled over India from 219 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: the fifteenth to nineteenth centuries with introducing the dish there 220 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: and yes, whether it originated in India or not, it 221 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: is famously associated with India. UM. Many historians believe a 222 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: similar rice dishes present in India before the Mughal rule 223 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: as early as the second century CE UM, though some 224 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: sources put it even earlier. There are written mentions of 225 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: a rice dish and Southern India composed of rice, ghee, meat, 226 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: spices like pepper, tumeric and coriander, and bay leaf uh 227 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: that that was present there. It was a filling dish 228 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: used to feed soldiers, according to these sources. One popular 229 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: legend suggests that Turk Mughal conqueror tmor brought an early 230 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: version of beer Yanny to India in and that he 231 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: introduced the dish to his soldiers as a substantial part 232 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: of their diet. Records describe earthen pots of rice and 233 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: available spices and meats that were buried in hot pits 234 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: for cooking and then dug up for the eating. Obviously 235 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: the contents of the pot, not the pot actually, But 236 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: when this dish arrived in India, it was made spicier 237 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: um in this version of offants of the beer Yanni timeline. Yes, 238 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: numerous cultural influences contributed to the dish, Yes, and Islamic 239 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: Persians frequently get the readit for popularizing it, and some 240 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: historians even posit that the dish is in fact from 241 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: Persia or modern day Iran. In this case, it may 242 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: have arrived in India with Persian travelers A part of 243 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: the reason scholars think this is that the name is 244 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: often traced to the Persian words suit for fried rice 245 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: or fried before cooking, depending on where you read it. 246 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. In the realm of almost certainly legend, one 247 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: story goes that Shah Jahan's queen Mumtazma Hall, who was 248 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: the inspiration for the taj Mahal, was also the inspiration 249 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: for Berrianni. The story goes that sometime between the late 250 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: fifteen hundreds and early sixteen hundreds, she visited the army 251 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: barracks and found that a majority of the soldiers were 252 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: under nourished. Determined to fix the issue, she went to 253 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: the chef in charge and asked him to create a 254 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: nutritionally balanced dish and bury any was the results. Again, 255 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: probably not true, I mean, who knows, but I'm gonna 256 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: say probably yeah, yeah, yes. The rice in this story 257 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: was fried and ghee and unwashed so as to prevent clumping. 258 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: The desired meats and spices were added in, and the 259 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: mixture was cooked over an open fire. Sounds good, oh 260 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: yeah yeah um. And while the original Persian very yannis, 261 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: if that is where they originated, um may have been 262 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: more subtly spiced. They became certainly um, these very distinctive, 263 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: very specialized party dishes in the hands of cooks working 264 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 1: in India and in wealthy households and clubs in the 265 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: seventeen and eighteen hundreds. The clubs, Yes, these nightclubs. Oh 266 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: my god, I was, I was saying to Annie before 267 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: we started recording. I almost went on this like multi 268 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: hour deep dive into different layers of of um culinary 269 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: history of cooks and chefs from around that time, and 270 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: like this one like like class of of cooks, uh, 271 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: the consamas, and I couldn't. I was like, this is 272 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: not this is not the research for today, but it's 273 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: fascinating and right, and these that the concept of these 274 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: like nineteenth century nightclubs that were famous for uh, for 275 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: these particular cooks who were not classically trained, but who 276 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: like all had their their own very flashy style. And 277 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: so anyway, that's just a little tidbit um. Maybe hopefully 278 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: we'll come back to it, because I really want to 279 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: read more about it. Yes, and I would love to 280 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: learn more about it, so hopefully yes. But related to that, 281 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: in in these early days, your yanny may have been 282 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: viewed as a dish for the rich and for royalty um. 283 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: Perhaps even served on dishes of gold and silver. Uh. 284 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: And yes, remember ingredients like saffron that became commonplace and 285 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: burians were expensive at that time still expensive now to 286 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: be honest, Yeah, sure, but that image changed and as 287 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: it's spread throughout the region, this dish was adapted to 288 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: local ingredients and taste, including the type of rice that 289 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 1: was used in anglicized version of curry started popping up 290 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: in the late eighteenth century. In early nineteenth century UM 291 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: in the UK, and some of these Anglicized Indian recipes 292 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: included Palau's similar to pull off, but not Berrianni uh. 293 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: And looking at more modern times, researchers have pointed out 294 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: that beer Yanni is lacking on UK menus, and they 295 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: argue this is in part because of a short cutting 296 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: of Indian recipes, only utilizing four or five sauces to 297 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: make every item on an Indian restaurant menu in the 298 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: UK beginning in the nineteen sixties. Sort of like it's 299 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: a complicated dish, I guess is what they were saying. 300 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of people and especially people 301 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: who weren't uh Indian and heritage were kind of like, Okay, 302 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm just not going to try that one. Then that's 303 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: too much. Huh yeah makes sense. Uh. Skipping ahead a bit. 304 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: In the twenty teens in India, Brianni became a little 305 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: bit of a spark point in discussions surrounding Hindu nationalism 306 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: and the Muslim minority in that country. Yeah. And then 307 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: another avenue where uh, Buryani became not necessarily a spark point. 308 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: And this is definitely not as serious, but uh. It 309 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: was featured in a buzz Feed India article called twenty 310 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: three reasons having Buryani is better than having a boyfriend, 311 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: and that article came with this quote, stop chasing after 312 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: a bay and get yourself a Brianni. Oh my goodness, 313 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: that is you did you know you were? You were 314 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: morally obligated to get you Oh well, um, uh this 315 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: doesn't have a pun in it. I'm sorry. But but 316 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: in a series of twenty four dishes from the city 317 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: hyder Bad, we're featured on postage stamps in India and 318 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: that included the local or a local version of Brian 319 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: m hmm getting a craving via stamp. I want it 320 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: time to be alive. Oh, it's sort of mean, I mean, gosh, now, 321 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: but that means work kind of mean, don't you think. Yeah, 322 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: that's what everyone says about us. Oh no, I just 323 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: want to share the joy of Brianti you. Oh no 324 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: to craving. Yeah, I'm gonna I have not had my 325 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: like leftover berry Anny yet today. I knew that recording 326 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: this episode was going to be a whole thing, so um. 327 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: So that is pretty much what we have to say 328 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: about it for now. And yes, yes, well I'm jealous 329 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: of you because my leftover so long. God. But yes, 330 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: we do have some listener mail for you. We do, 331 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: and we are going to get into that as soon 332 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: as we get back from one more quick break forward 333 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: for sponsors, and we're back. Thank you, sponsors, Yes, thank you, 334 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: And we're back with yeah hug um. And we have 335 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: to not one, but two letters from listeners on Team 336 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: Candy Heart. Okay, we called and you answered, and we're 337 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: so glad that you did. Always yes, Diana wrote. Every 338 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: year for the last few years, I've made conversation hearts 339 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: from scratch. It started as cute merchandise to give to 340 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: guests at the restaurant where I worked during the pandemic. 341 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: I've sold pastry boxes of treats for Valentine's Day, and 342 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: I continue including conversation hearts. The batch I made weighs 343 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: about three pounds, about one point three key those. It's 344 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: tedious to color flavor roll, cut out all the hearts 345 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: and write them all by hand, but they's so iconic 346 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: that I'm okay with doing it once a year. Plus 347 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: it gives me the chance to write DTF on a 348 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: tiny piece of candy. I hope you have a great 349 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: February four, no matter how you choose to spend it. Oh. 350 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: I love that so much. And Diana Son in pictures, 351 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: they're so cute, so cute. Oh I bet they are 352 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: time consuming though, Oh yeah, yeah, and I and it 353 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: is always that that that like, well, it's once a 354 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: year and it's so fun when it's over right kind 355 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: of thing, right. I think we all have something like 356 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: that that we that we were like, well, okay, only 357 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: in this one time for year. Yeah, but I love that. 358 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: I love that it's like iconic and people forward to 359 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: your creation. It's it's very lovely. Yes, yes, um, Stephanie wrote, 360 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: I just finished your Classic Candy Hearts episode. At the end, 361 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: do you ask anyone who actually likes candy hearts to 362 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: write in, So I am here to answer your call 363 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: and advocate on behalf of this seasonal delight. To be honest, 364 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure what it is that draws me 365 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: to them, but there is something about the way they 366 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: crack when you bite down on them, and the chalkiness 367 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: they leave behind that's so satisfying to me. I'm certainly 368 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: not in it for the messages. I don't even bother 369 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: to read them before I eat them. Okay, Okay, here 370 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: we go. Uh yeah. Though candy hearts are not my 371 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: most favorite candy overall, I do feel very strongly about 372 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: the flavors. The only real candy hearts as far as 373 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm concerned, are the ones that come in grape, cherry, orange, lime, banana, 374 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: and winter green. Alright, alright, um, I know banana and 375 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: winter green, which were the best flavors of my humble opinion, 376 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: have been discontinued. So this comma is getting really hard 377 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: to find. Because of this, I realized the boxes I'm 378 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: finding that include them may very well be from old batches, 379 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: but I love them and I will continue to hunt 380 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: them down. The blue raspberry ones that replaced the white 381 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: mint ones are blasphemy. I managed to find some of 382 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: the tiny elementary school Valentine sized boxes and the original 383 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: flavors this year that I purchased without hesitation, and I'm 384 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: carefully rationing. I love the podcast and you guys, in 385 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: spite of your reversion to candy hearts, Oh wow, I 386 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: feel like I feel like there's some fiery opinions in 387 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: that one. I like it. I yes, I adore all 388 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: of this. I love you've got your specific flavor. I 389 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: love you. Don't read the messages that this great, get 390 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: it be mine? Never just eat it. I don't care 391 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: be mine, winter Green, don't care what you say about it. Yeah, 392 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. So my friend I got to 393 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: see a good friend of mine recently for the first 394 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: time in a minute, and she had a whole case 395 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: of these, like many wow, the little boxes. Yeah, and 396 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I didn't take any because, as I said, 397 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: they're not really my thing. But I'm going to contact 398 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: her and see what the flavor is she's got going 399 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 1: because she might be here, she might be in in 400 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: ownership of something that might be worth something to someone. Yes, yes, 401 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: you know, I say with a shrug and mild confusion. Again. Hey, 402 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: like every every time someone finds something that makes them happy, 403 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: I am happy for them. And you know, y'all can 404 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: have my my lifetime supply of candy hearts, So go 405 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: for it, so kind so giver. Yes, yes, but seriously, 406 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: this has been to light from people on teep candy Hearts, 407 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: so keep those messages coming. So thanks to both of 408 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: those listeners for writing to us. If you would like 409 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: to write to us, you can. You can email us 410 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: at hello at saber pod dot com. We're also on 411 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: social media. 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