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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, I'm Matthew Friedman, Matt f the Oracle. Welcome

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Speaker 1: with me to talk NFL week fifteen Best Bets is

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Speaker 1: Simon Hunter of the Action Network. Simon, I listened to

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Speaker 1: you every week on the Favorites podcast with my former

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Speaker 1: boss and your bff, your campaigning, your compadre Chad Millman.

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Speaker 1: You guys are crushing it. You're having a great year

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Speaker 1: with your picks, both for the Pigs contest and just

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Speaker 1: in general.

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Speaker 2: And I follow you in.

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Speaker 1: The Action app so I don't really need to ask

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Speaker 1: how your season is going, but you know, how's it going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been good.

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Speaker 4: Usually, if it's a good year for dogs and unders,

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Speaker 4: that's gonna be a profitable, profitable year for most professionals, right.

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Speaker 4: So the fact that early on it was just so

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Speaker 4: good with the underdogs and the unders, it was like

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Speaker 4: I would have really had to have laid an egg

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Speaker 4: for the rest of the year for not to make

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Speaker 4: a profit. But luckily the Dogs they haven't been winning

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Speaker 4: out right as much, but they still been covering the

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Speaker 4: number here down the home stretch. So just a really

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Speaker 4: really profitable year with the public. They've been taken on

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Speaker 4: the chin for most of the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's true.

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Speaker 1: I mean underdogs, uh, And I mean it's been balanced

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Speaker 1: more on on the totals recently, you know, but those

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Speaker 1: first couple of weeks, the unders were totally smashing uh.

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Speaker 1: And so that was a great runway for success for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the season. And yeah, underdogs still have

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Speaker 1: been been the way to go throughout the season. And

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Speaker 1: you know, Simon, you are a professional better. I think

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Speaker 1: there are lots of people who think that they would

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Speaker 1: love to do what you do. But you know, it's

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Speaker 1: not as uh, it's not as glamorous as I'm imagining

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Speaker 1: a lot of people would imagine it to be. Can

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Speaker 1: you talk about like how you got started, like how

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Speaker 1: you got into the I guess the quote unquote like

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Speaker 1: professional side of it, you know, like transitioning from someone

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Speaker 1: who sports bets and does it profitably to someone who

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say I got lucky where it was

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Speaker 4: just kind of those things of life where I always

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Speaker 4: kind of met the right people and then took advantage

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Speaker 4: of the situation. So I sports bet ever since I

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Speaker 4: was a kid. Like my earliest memory and someone ever

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Speaker 4: my first bet ever of my life. I lost against

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Speaker 4: my brother for whatever it was a dollar. He won

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Speaker 4: Then through high school always lost. I was your classic lemon,

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Speaker 4: Like even if I won big, right, you'd have like

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Speaker 4: the nice three four week run of you doing all

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Speaker 4: your stupid parlays whatever it was. And I always eventually

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Speaker 4: And then when I was twenty one, I was working

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Speaker 4: he did for a living, and not that we hit

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Speaker 4: it off, but it was just like a friendship of yeah,

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Speaker 4: And that's kind of how I start off my oarlership

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Speaker 4: have been I don't know. Three weeks into me and

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Speaker 4: him talking where he was like, would you ever want

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Speaker 4: which is basically, someone gives you a bunch of money

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Speaker 4: take the said cash they gave you, you go there

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Speaker 4: don't mind, they just want their own bets. You get

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Speaker 4: So that's one of those where it's a job well

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Speaker 3: That was kind of thing where he offered me a

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Speaker 4: I didn't really know much about sports betting at twenty one.

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Speaker 4: So then follow up three months, I was just burned

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Speaker 4: So end up moving back there, and man, this might

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Speaker 4: have been the winner of twenty eleven. Heading into the

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Speaker 4: the boom of the time I came in was the

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Speaker 4: building of models. So the Internet had been around for

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Speaker 3: The big thing to me was Reddit.

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Speaker 4: I really got into Reddit and talking to all these

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Speaker 4: and so I was running for Bob and these other guys.

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Speaker 4: I was talking about these models and they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: Fell on my face the first year, like I did

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Speaker 4: I lost all my money my first year out there

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Speaker 4: The more I feel like the more you watch, the

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Speaker 1: Well, so you talked right there about it's a group,

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Speaker 4: So the third party would be say, I especially hear

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Speaker 1: past DVOA, but they could be without all three of

438
00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,360
Speaker 1: their starting quarterbacks. Jordan Lewis is out, Anthony Brown is out,

439
00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,880
Speaker 1: and now Trevon Diggs is dealing with a thumb injury.

440
00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,119
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna play, but like there are issues with

441
00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,720
Speaker 1: him anyway, Like the best feature that he has is

442
00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,720
Speaker 1: intercepting the ball. It's gonna be a lot harder to

443
00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,959
Speaker 1: intercept the ball when he's got the thumb injury, and

444
00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,720
Speaker 1: he can be burned deep. And as you mentioned, yeah,

445
00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,520
Speaker 1: that Jags team, they have taken a significant.

446
00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,920
Speaker 2: Step forward over the past six.

447
00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,800
Speaker 1: Weeks, and you know part of it was, you know,

448
00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,000
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence was throwing some ill timed interceptions earlier in

449
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,840
Speaker 1: the year, especially in the red zone. He's cleaned that up,

450
00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,600
Speaker 1: I mean, no interceptions, I believe in the past six

451
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,840
Speaker 1: weeks for him, you know, like he is really starting

452
00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,600
Speaker 1: to look like the guy who was the number one pick.

453
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,639
Speaker 1: Like fantastic step forward for him. And so there's a chance,

454
00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,719
Speaker 1: with the injuries on the Cowboys defense and then the

455
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,960
Speaker 1: strides that we've seen out of Jacksonville in the past

456
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,240
Speaker 1: five or six weeks, that I haven't accounted enough for

457
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,320
Speaker 1: that in my model. So even though I'm showing value

458
00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,320
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys at minus six, I haven't bet it

459
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,800
Speaker 1: yet because this just it feels like a spot where

460
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,119
Speaker 1: I kind of know this might be where my model

461
00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,120
Speaker 1: isn't getting it right.

462
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that to me, is why the line moved

463
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,560
Speaker 4: those because of the defensive injuries. Like it's just I

464
00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,359
Speaker 4: haven't talked any pro groups. I don't know I've heard

465
00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,560
Speaker 4: anyone coming heavy on the Jaguars just because there's other

466
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,800
Speaker 4: dogs they like better this week. That's why I want

467
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 4: to grab this number early. Like you could have grabbed

468
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,679
Speaker 4: just twelve hours ago was four and a half. Now

469
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 4: we're seeing to come down a little bit because of

470
00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 4: these these injuries to Dallas. I mean, that's a big

471
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,880
Speaker 4: deal to have guys out in your secondary where that's

472
00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,199
Speaker 4: pretty much what Jacksonville wants to do.

473
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 3: They want to tack the ball downfield.

474
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right. A game that I like here,

475
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if I say I like it, but

476
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,680
Speaker 1: I bet it. The Steelers plus three on the road

477
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,359
Speaker 1: at Carolina. And you know some of this is like

478
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 1: the I wouldn't say this is a Mike Tomlin raw

479
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,199
Speaker 1: Ross spot, but you know Tomlin is an underdog that's historically,

480
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, a good spot to be forty nine to

481
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 1: twenty seven and three against the spread as an underdog.

482
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,959
Speaker 1: Even Mitch Trubisky as an underdog hasn't been horrible like

483
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 1: the rare spot where he's actually been profitable against the

484
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 1: spread fifteen eleven and two against the spread as an underdog.

485
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 1: And then Sam Donald, Sam Donald should almost never be

486
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,159
Speaker 1: a favorite a favorite at any point. Twenty thirty and

487
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 1: one against the spread as as a favorite is Sam Donald?

488
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 2: Sorry?

489
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,879
Speaker 1: Four and eight against the spread as a favorite is

490
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,679
Speaker 1: Sam Donald? Twenty thirty and one against the spread for

491
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 1: his career. And you know, I think this is a

492
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 1: by low on the Steelers in a cell high on

493
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 1: the Panthers kind of spot. The Panthers are coming off

494
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 1: of a really good thirty to twenty four road underdog

495
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 1: win against the Seahawks. But you know, Donald, he had

496
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 1: just five point eight adjusted yards per attempt in that game.

497
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 1: That's right in line with his career average. It's not

498
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 1: like he did anything to win them that game. And

499
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, the Panthers, as great as they've been recently

500
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 1: six and two against the spread under interim head coach

501
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes. Uh, they're oh to three against the spread

502
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 1: this year as favorites, Right, they've been doing a lot

503
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 1: of their damage when they haven't had expectations in the market.

504
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: Now they actually have expectations, and I don't see that

505
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 1: going well. Wilkes uh to five uh oh to two

506
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: actually against this spread. Uh when he was a head

507
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: coach with the Cardinals. Uh. It's a small sample, but

508
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 1: it's kind of convincing, and that like they got shellacked

509
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: in both of those games when he was a favorite.

510
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 1: They failed to cover the spread by a margin of

511
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: thirteen point twenty five points in those games. So you know,

512
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: Wilkes when he's been favored, hasn't really been a good player.

513
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: And you know, so just a prime spot to sell

514
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 1: high on the Panthers.

515
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: And I think it's a good spot to buy low

516
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 2: on the Steelers.

517
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 1: Uh, you know last week kind of demoralizing sixteen to

518
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: fourteen loss as home favorites against the Ravens who were

519
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 1: playing without Lamar Jackson. We've got Kenny Pickett in the

520
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: concussion protocol. Seems highly unlo likely that he plays in

521
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: this game. But Trubisky, you know, he's a veteran, he's

522
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: better than Sam Darnold. And so I think the Steelers

523
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: have the edged quarterback. They've got the edgeit coach. And

524
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 1: I think the Panthers have a mediocre home field advantage.

525
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: So if you give me plus three with the Steelers

526
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 1: against a bad team, I'm gonna take it.

527
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say your your thinking here is right

528
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 4: in the sense that this a line is this line

529
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 4: moved a ton just based off what happened last week

530
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 4: where yeah, Carolina went to the Seahawks, they kind of

531
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 4: dominated and blew them ount in that game.

532
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 3: Flip side. Pittsburgh gave that game away.

533
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 4: I mean three turnovers, I think two of them were

534
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 4: in the red zone and a missfield goal. They lose

535
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 4: by three. What with this number of bents Steelers had won,

536
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 4: probably wouldn't be up to this what number it's at now.

537
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 4: Fear for me is just the fact that I feel

538
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 4: like it just touched on it where it's like Carolina

539
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 4: they're still playing for something. I really know what Pittsburgh's

540
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 4: playing for at this point. It kind of feels like

541
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 4: that was their season last week. Now we're hearing rumors

542
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 4: Mason Rudolph might start and teammates, you're asking for Mason

543
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 4: Rudolph to start.

544
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 3: Makes me a little worried to hear with this Steelers.

545
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 4: The Steelers bet Carolina they could be that team down

546
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 4: the stretch, they make a run and they make the

547
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 4: playoffs somehow where I left them for dead too, Like

548
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 4: Sam Darnald coming in, I mean, I couldn't believe what

549
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 4: happened last week. Maybe I was more about Geno having

550
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 4: a bad game, the fact that Carolina ran for two

551
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 4: hundred yards, But you're right, it's it's a good position

552
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 4: to be in. You're getting three points against Sam Donald

553
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 4: where there are a ton of expectations right now for

554
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 4: this team. So I get where your head's at. I

555
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 4: just I, personally, I haven't touched this one.

556
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, one game?

557
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: You do like Bucks Bengals under forty four here, talk

558
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: to us about what you're seeing.

559
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the biggest, stinkiest, fishiest lines of the week.

560
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 4: I mean the fact that the Bucks are only getting

561
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 4: mine or plus three at home.

562
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 3: I don't get it. I make this line six.

563
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 4: So when there's situations like this, we're on way off

564
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 4: on a line and the pros are telling me, no,

565
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 4: you want to be on the Buccaneers here, And I

566
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 4: said to them, I think you guys are just blindly

567
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 4: fading the Bengals because the Bengals are overvalid. We all

568
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 4: agree the Bengals, I mean, what is it, five straight,

569
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 4: six straight covers? I think they're eleven in on on

570
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 4: ats their last twelve. It's been incredible. The public has

571
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 4: been getting very fat off betting this Bengals team. But

572
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 4: I look at this Buccaneers team, I just cannot back them.

573
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 4: So if I'm looking for a huge advantage here, it's

574
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 4: gonna be the total the Bengals. Their defense has been

575
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 4: one of the best defenses offseason. I know they don't

576
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 4: get talked about because Joe Burrow is that guy. This

577
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 4: is a defense is only goiing a one touchdown the

578
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 4: second half all season.

579
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 3: That's insane.

580
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 4: The fact how far we are into the season they're

581
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 4: still playing so well. Buccaneers offense struggles. So if I'm

582
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 4: looking at a matchup of yeah, the Bengals moved the

583
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 4: ball last week, but you saw that was a big

584
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 4: deal that Chasers their only healthy receiver without Boyd out there,

585
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 4: without Higgins out there, I just don't have that expectations.

586
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow put up a ton of points against a

587
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 4: Buccaneers defense it usually plays stingy at home flip side.

588
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 4: I just don't know how the Bucks are going to score.

589
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 4: I really don't like I look at their offense. Not

590
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 4: only do they have really bad drops, it's everything with

591
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 4: Brady right now. He's not comfortable in the pocket, which

592
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 4: you rarely see with Brady. So the fact that the

593
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 4: total was hung so high. It took it at forty

594
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 4: f took it at forty four and a half. Now

595
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 4: it's down to forty four, I would still bet it.

596
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 4: I honestly would take it down to forty three, but

597
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 4: that's when I would probably start flipping once it gets

598
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 4: down to forty two and a half.

599
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 3: But I still think you're getting good value.

600
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 4: And they're calling for some rain on Sunday, so a

601
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 4: game to keep your eye on if you do want

602
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 4: this total.

603
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: On the under.

604
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: Interesting.

605
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: So I have this projected at forty three point four,

606
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: so I'm not you know, I'm not all that far

607
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: off from where the market is now. But to your point,

608
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: it opened higher and it has been bet down. One

609
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: thing that gives me a little bit of a pause here,

610
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: and you're right that I mean, this has been a

611
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: stingy defense for the Buccaneers, and in part because of

612
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: the defense and then their offensive inability to put up points,

613
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: this has been an under team throughout the entire season,

614
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: one of the most profitable teams to the under. The

615
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: defense isn't quite as healthy as I would want it

616
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: to be. So Jamel Dean, you know, it looks like

617
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: he's going to be out with a toe injury.

618
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: At least.

619
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: He missed practice on Wednesday and left last week early.

620
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: I'm a little skeptical that he plays Carl Nassib is

621
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: dealing with a peck injury, you know, Videveya dealing with

622
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: a calf injury, and they've got other injuries in the

623
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: secondary and some of those guys, you know, there's a

624
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: good chance that they will come back, but I'm not

625
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: sure they're gonna be at full health. So with the

626
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: defense that isn't as isn't as healthy as I would

627
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: want it to be. And like the offense is part

628
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: of it for the Buccaneers certainly, but the defense, like

629
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: they are going to need to be able to slow

630
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: down the Bengals or you know, I could see the

631
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: over hitting here, so I'm just like, I see the side,

632
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: like I lean towards your side. I just I haven't

633
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: bet it because I'm just not as confident in the

634
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: defensive health.

635
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: No, it's fair.

636
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, one other game here to talk about, and

637
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: this this is disgusting. I just gotta say that I

638
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: have if there's one team that I should never bet

639
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: on again this year, it's the Raiders. And I've said

640
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: it like almost every week, you know, especially like last

641
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: week after the choke job against the Rams, I was like, okay,

642
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm never betting on them.

643
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: I can't do it again.

644
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: Of course I said that the month before when they

645
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: lost to the Jeff Saturday led Colts, and was like, Okay,

646
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: I just I can't bet on this team again.

647
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: And I do it again.

648
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: I do it like it seems like every week. I

649
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: look at my projections, I look at the matchups, and

650
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: I see value on the Raiders. And so you like

651
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: Las Vegas here minus one. This number is kind of

652
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: fluctuating between plus one minus one on the Raiders.

653
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: I like.

654
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: I like the Raiders too. I have this number projected

655
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: at Raiders favored by one point two five points, and

656
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: so you know, if this is on the other side

657
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: of one or the other side of zero, I see

658
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: value in it here. But talk to me about the Raiders,

659
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: because like, I'm with you. It's just it hurts my

660
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: heart to be on this side.

661
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're all I mean, we're getting sucked in.

662
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 4: I'm right there with you. Where like I can't get

663
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Speaker 4: this This Vegas team right. They're just one of those

664
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Speaker 4: teams that you know, even when you're covering, you've been

665
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 4: you've bet on them this year.

666
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: Everyone's had this film.

667
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 4: You're up by fourteen, you got no worries head in

668
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 4: the fourth they keep losing. They've had four games this

669
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: year they've lost that exact scenario. So I I'm looking

670
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 4: at a team that this has to be the lowest

671
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 4: for buying on them. Like they got embarrass in a

672
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 4: primetime game on Thursday. They've had a whole week to

673
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 4: sit on it, and the whole ten days to sit

674
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Speaker 4: on it.

675
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 3: The palls.

676
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 4: I guess the pause for most people is going to

677
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 4: be what kind of Vegas team are you getting? Because

678
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 4: week to week it is tough to know you're getting.

679
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 4: But the reason I like to value on them is

680
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 4: the fact they are getting Waller back and they're getting

681
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 4: Hunter run for It back, and that's a big deal

682
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 4: to this offense we've seen. That's really a safety blanket

683
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 4: for Derek Carr. I mean, yes, he loves Adams. We

684
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: saw what happened though. If you take away Adams, he

685
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 4: kind of gets a little fluster. He looks a little lost.

686
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: Now you're bringing back these other two biggest receivers. We

687
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 4: expect Jacobs to be healthy as well. Now after I

688
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 4: having an extended rest, he could get right. That's just

689
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 4: a really strong, I mean offense, and especially year against

690
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,479
Speaker 4: the Patriots team that we've seen them struggle against these

691
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 4: high powered offenses. I mean, you go through it the

692
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 4: Patriots this year, the teams they beat up on, it's

693
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 4: when they have backup quarterbacks and eight wins eighty three

694
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: percent of their wins this season have been have come

695
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: against backups.

696
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: So I can't overlook that.

697
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: But I'm with you, Like I felt sick betting this,

698
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: but it felt like I had to make this bet.

699
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 4: It was plus one, I took it up plus one.

700
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 4: It's down to minus one. Now in most books, i'd

701
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: still take that to me. Under three, you're getting good

702
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: value here. Is it's a big deal. The fact that

703
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: the Patriots are coming in. You know, they lost one

704
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: of their receivers, they lost our top running back. They're

705
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 4: getting against our Vegas team that's actually getting healthier. Now

706
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 4: to me, that's the big deal in this matchup where

707
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 4: the Patriots need to split this road games. I needed

708
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 4: to either beat the Cardinals or Vegas. I just can't

709
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 4: see him going to and zero on this road trip.

710
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: I can see him dropping this game here.

711
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's more certain that Waller returns than

712
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: that Renfro returns. But there's a chance both of those

713
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: guys suit up this weekend, and if that happens, then

714
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: I certainly am feeling much better about their raiders. Do

715
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: you have a sense, you know, like, okay, historically we

716
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: have seen assistance, former assistants or players who were under

717
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick at some point actually have success against him.

718
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would want to extend that

719
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: to Josh McDaniels, but like that potential dynamic is there.

720
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Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts on the sort of the

721
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: chess game matchup between Belichick and his former protege.

722
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Speaker 4: I would if he was running the same scheme, but

723
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Speaker 4: he kind of totally changed his scheme up Josh McDaniels.

724
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 4: He changed his scheme to fit Derek Carr's attribute.

725
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: So the fact that.

726
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 4: Belichick won't really have an advantage in that department is

727
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: a big deal on me. Then you look at the

728
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 4: other side, where I don't know, the defenders. The Patriots

729
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 4: really have to slow down the steam. If this was

730
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 4: outdoors in New England, man, that'd be great for this

731
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 4: New England defense. But this is indoors in Vegas. We've

732
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 4: seen how Vegas performs at home on that turf, So

733
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: it's just a big advantage to me.

734
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Speaker 3: To that Vegas team to be at home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Sunday night football here Commanders hosting the Giants.

736
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Speaker 1: We are on opposite side of this game, although I

737
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: got to say I don't feel great about the Giants

738
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: position that I have, But you like the Commander's minus four.

739
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 1: It half in a rematch of a game that we

740
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: saw just two weeks ago, and so an interesting dynamic.

741
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: You have the Commanders preparing for the Giants, playing the Giants,

742
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: going into the buy, coming out of the buy, and

743
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: playing the Giants. It's like they've had twenty one days

744
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: to prepare for this game. What are your thoughts on

745
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: the matchup we see here?

746
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely love Washington.

747
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 4: This is gonnaend up being probably my biggest bet of

748
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: the weekend. It's all all pointed towards it, where everyone

749
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 4: you talk to and on the streets, any guy you

750
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 4: talk to in the business as well, is gonna love

751
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 4: The Giants are like, yeah, they're getting four and a

752
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 4: half points against a team they just tied two weeks ago.

753
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 4: Why I look it from otherway where it's like that

754
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 4: was the game the Giants needed to steal, Like that

755
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 4: was their opportunity to think they didn't do it like

756
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 4: that tie. That was no good for them because to me, Washington,

757
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: they let that one get away this week, They're not

758
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 4: going to this game to me, should be closer to six.

759
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 4: The fact that it is four and a half, there's

760
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: a good value there on Washington. It's a primetime game.

761
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: It is not gonna shock anyone. Ninety percent of the money,

762
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 4: eighty seven percent of the tickets right now is coming on

763
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 4: the Giants team. So all the money, all the bets

764
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 4: are coming on the Giants. This number is just sat

765
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 4: at four and a half all week, and it's gonna

766
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: keep sitting there all week because once they move at

767
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 4: the four, pros like me and a lot of other guys,

768
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 4: they hit the four right away and they bumped it

769
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: right back to four and a half. So this is

770
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 4: going to be one of the bigger pros versus shows games.

771
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: The public will be all over on the Giants and

772
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: what they assume will be a close NFC East battle

773
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 4: on Sunday night. And to me, I look at this

774
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 4: Washington team that they are not in a great spot

775
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 4: to just dominate this Giants team. But it's it's all

776
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 4: there like they're rested, like you just said they had

777
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 4: twenty one days to prepare for this team twice, Like

778
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 4: that's a big deal. You don't think that's a big deal.

779
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, the Giants had to throw out their

780
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 4: game scrip, play the Eagles, get dominated by the Eagles,

781
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 4: and then turn around and play this game where Washington they

782
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: got to relax, get their bodies right, and then just

783
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 4: prepare for them all week.

784
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: So I love the summer. I would take it up

785
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: to six.

786
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: That's a that's a big number. Six big.

787
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, oh man betting lizard heinike Man.

788
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I also have I mean I have interested in

789
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: this on the under and uh, looking at it right now,

790
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: I believe it's around forty. Do you have any any

791
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: thoughts on the total here for this game because it

792
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: feels like, okay, divisional rematch outdoor game in December. Uh,

793
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: it feels a little bit like an underspot. But do

794
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: you have any thoughts on the total here?

795
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, our guy Chris On convinced me gave out the

796
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 4: under at that game two weeks ago. That was at

797
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: forty and a half. They went to overtime and he

798
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 4: still hit the under. So that was one of those

799
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 4: where It felt like I sold my soul already tatting

800
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: and under in this matchup. You're right, this is the

801
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 4: right thing to do is take the under in this game.

802
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna stay away for the toll just because

803
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 4: of that. That was that to me, will be my

804
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 4: luckiest underhit of the year taking that under in that game.

805
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: It went to overtime and still hit forty and a half.

806
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, don't be scared of that number. Don't

807
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 4: be scared of Washington here. That's what the bookmakers are

808
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: trying to get you to do. They're like, we'll bake

809
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 4: it a big number, will be all over the Giants,

810
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 4: but it's not. It's not that big of a number

811
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: where these two teams are just going in very different directions,

812
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 4: and we've seen that over the last couple of weeks.

813
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 4: I really do think the Giants left that one slip

814
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: like that was a great spot to catch that Washington team.

815
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 4: Washington had been on a five game winning streak. They were,

816
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 4: you know, burnt out, They're about to head into their

817
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 4: bye week. The Giants had them at home. They're up

818
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 4: seven heading into the fourth quarter. All they needed was

819
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 4: a field goal to put that game away and they

820
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 4: couldn't do it. So I feel like the Giants already

821
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 4: had their game, they let it slip away, and this

822
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 4: is when Washington comes out just dominates them.

823
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, last game here to talk about Monday

824
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: night Football. I'm imagining pro that you are you will

825
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 1: be looking at this game differently than I am looking

826
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: at I'll just say, like, I know, I know the

827
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: sharp side.

828
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: I know the sharp side is the Rams. I know that.

829
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't help myself here I am. I am

830
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: on the Packers at minus seven here, and by the way,

831
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: I will just say, I bet this in the maximal

832
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: pain maximal pain here. I bet this in the look

833
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: ahead market at minus nine. This was before the Rams

834
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: played on Thursday Night Football, and I was thinking minus nine,

835
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: there's a chance, like I thought there was a better

836
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: chance that this would get to minus ten than minus seven.

837
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: And evidently I was wrong because the Rams went and

838
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: did what they did and this money.

839
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: Has just come in on the Rams.

840
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: But anyway, I logged it in the betting pros app

841
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: where you can you know, sync up with sportsbooks, you

842
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: can get free betting advice. We monitor all the major sportsbooks,

843
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: so when one of them has a line move that

844
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: hits a threshold you set and you get an alert

845
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: that tells you where to make the bet at the

846
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: book that provides the most value. And you can download

847
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: the app today in the Apple or Google Play Store.

848
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: So I am on, I mean, I'm on the Packers

849
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: here and it's disgusting, but there's there's some historical trends

850
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: here Sean McVay oh to five against the spread and

851
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: temperature of no more than forty degrees, and that, I

852
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: know you can relate that to Jared Goff, but that

853
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: also that tied in to Stafford, Stafford zero to two

854
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: in that sample, even though Stafford had years of playing

855
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: in the very cold nfctate North Baker Mayfield eighteen thirty

856
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: three and one against the spread in all of the

857
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: years after his you know, somewhat magical rookie season. And

858
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: then for the Packers, this is the Aaron Rodgers like

859
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: total eclipse smash spot, Aaron Rodgers. A lot of quarterbacks,

860
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: they they don't overperform as favorites historically, but Rogers is

861
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: one of those, like rare cats, that actually has outperformed

862
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: expectations as a favorite. Ninety eight seventy and three against

863
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: the spread for his career as a favorite at home

864
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: sixty seven thirty seven and three against the spread, and

865
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 1: then off of a buy in the regular season nine

866
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: three and one against the spread. You line all of

867
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: that up in this spot, and Rogers is four to

868
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: zero to one against the spread as a home favorite

869
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: off of the buy, and that like I understand, like

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00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: small sample trends, but like Rogers is in a spot

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00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: where historically things have gone well for him, and so

872
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: again I jumped on this early. I know that this

873
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: line is six and a half seven in the market,

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00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: but I still see value. I have this projected at

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00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: Packers minus nine, and the analysis here is fairly straightforward.

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00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: The Packers aren't nearly as bad as the Rams. Like,

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00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: say whatever you want about Rogers, but he's number two

878
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: in the league with nine multi touchdown passing games. He's

879
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: got a good matchup. The Rams are number twenty eight

880
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: in defensive dropback EPA. He's got Christian Watson who's playing

881
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: like you know, I don't know, the second coming of

882
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: Randy Moss, and all of it is just lining up

883
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: for Rogers in this spot. And it's a cold weather

884
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: game forecast of five degrees fahrenheit. You know, so Rogers

885
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: in that situation playing against a warm weather dome team.

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00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm fine laying seven with Rogers at home with eight

887
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: extra days to rest and prepare for this game. Simon,

888
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: where are you on this game? And if you have

889
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: the other side, totally fine with that. But I'll just

890
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: I'll burn my money now.

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00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 3: No, I was honestly, I came in.

892
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I would take the

893
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 4: Rams there just because of the matchup with two bad teams.

894
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 3: But I feel like you're on line with the pros.

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00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: I talked to a couple of pros who actually love

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00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 4: green Bay in this position, and they are open it'll

897
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 4: get back to six and a half, and as soon

898
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 4: as it did, they all hit it and went right

899
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 4: back to seven. Makes sense, Like the books, they'll be

900
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 4: happy if they need green Bay in this spot. Like, yes, please, everyone,

901
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 4: come bet Baker in this Rams team after they just

902
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 4: had a miracle comeback. I think if you are a

903
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 4: person has all twenty two and you watch the film

904
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 4: of that game, that was more about the Raiders defense

905
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 4: than anything Baker is doing. I know Baker made the throws,

906
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 4: but man was that defense run and executed terribly by

907
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 4: that Raiders team. I don't really think we're gonna get

908
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 4: that here at Green Bay like them, especially at home

909
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 4: in a prime tang game like this, and we already

910
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 4: know there's no Donald like you can run the ball,

911
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 4: There's no Aaron Donald on this Rams team. And the

912
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 4: fact that's what Green Bay wants to do it with

913
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 4: their two headed monster. I don't even have to put

914
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 4: it do much on Aaron Rodgers to me, Aaron, we

915
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 4: need him in the red zone. We've seen he's really

916
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 4: stepped up big these last couple weeks for them in

917
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 4: the red zone. And you know, Green Bay they're one

918
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 4: of those teams where it's just the flows of the season,

919
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 4: like they had that stretch in the middle of the season.

920
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: I think it was like I don't say Week five

921
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 4: to Week nine, where they pretty much were losing every game.

922
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 4: They just could not get out of their own way.

923
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 4: And now we've seen not that they figure out who

924
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 4: they are. You kind of see them turn a corner

925
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 4: here though they kind of the Rogers. All these guys,

926
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 4: I'm not as bad as they were earlier in the season.

927
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 4: So you're right, this number probably should be still be

928
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 4: up at nine. The fact that Baker came all the

929
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 4: way back really shouldn't matter in this matchup, just because

930
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 4: it's irrelevant to it. So, you know, six and a half,

931
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 4: I would grab it on green bed at seven, I

932
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 4: just wouldn't play aside.

933
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: All right, Simon, thanks for joining us. Tell the people

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Speaker 1: where to follow you on social and find your work.

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Speaker 4: Sure you can follow me on Twitter at at Simon

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00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 4: Hunter NFL. And uh, I mean I don't. I'm not

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00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 4: much of a writer, but if you want to find

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Speaker 4: me the podcast where I'd just say, yeah, the Favorites

939
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 4: is probably the way to check me out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely the Favorites. And then also the Action app.

941
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you got all of your free picks in there.

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Speaker 3: That's true. I give him on the Action app.

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Speaker 1: All right, he's Simon Hunter. I'm Matthew Freeman at matt

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Speaker 1: f The Oracle. Check out Betty Pros and Fantasy Pros

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946
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: player projections and rankings, and more. If you like the show,

947
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,000
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948
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: is going to do it for the this week fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Best Bets edition of the Batting Pros Pod.

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