1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: A walk. 2 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 2: It's an out of body experience for me. I don't 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 2: really know what I'm doing. I just have like the 4 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: pen in the paper, and I feel like it's a 5 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: it's a spiritual thing no matter what you believe in. 6 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: I feel like there's some I always write on the floor. 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I think it's just energies and like, 8 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: you know, something moving through you. But it always happens 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: at the weirdest times, and you never know when it's 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: it's kind of fun. You never know, like if you're 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: gonna write, you know, the best thing you've ever written someday. 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: I think that's why I love it so much, because 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: there's so much wonder in it, you know. 14 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of Taking a Walk with your host, 15 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: Buzz Night. Buzz speaks with musicians of all genres, from 16 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 3: rising stars to Hall of famers, and everyone in between. Today, 17 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: Buzz is joined by a rising star from Glass Note 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 3: Records who hails from Nashville, Tennessee. Cecilia Castleman is one 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: of the most intriguing voices in music today. She's been 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: making waves with her introspective songwriting and mesmerizing performances. She 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 3: has new music produced by the legendary Dawn Was and 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 3: she's here to talk with buzz on Taking a Walk 23 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: right now. 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: So, Celia, thanks for being on the Take on a 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: Walk podcast. So nice to meet you. 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: So nice to meet you too, Thanks for having me. 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: So How to growing up in Nashville influence your musical journey? 28 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: Gosh, so much? I think I just you grow up 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: around some of the best songs in the world and 30 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: some of the best writers, and I think it, you know, 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: being in Nashville from the start, it makes you realize 32 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: how you got to be on top of things. When 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: you get into a room with people, you got to 34 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 2: know what you're doing early is fake it if you don't. 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: And so I think the musicianship was so high, and 36 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: so it taught me to be hopefully really good at 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: my craft and always, you know, aspire to be, you know, 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: better than I was the day before. 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: Nashville is very much like it and it's a great 40 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: place to sort of go to school if you will, 41 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: on the music business on so many aspects. There's the 42 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: university side of things. There's so much of the history 43 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: there as well. What parts of the history in Nashville 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: have really influenced you. 45 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: Gosh. I mean you can drive down the road in 46 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: all the studios. RCA is a big one. They recorded everyone, Elvis, 47 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: Dolly Parton, Jed Atkins, all the records that I grew 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: up loving and still love. When I drive by that place, 49 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: my you know, I get like the the jitters because 50 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 2: it's it's such a cool and inspiring place. 51 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: You talking about the quantt Hut. Yeah, the r c 52 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: A Victor Suit Yeah, yeah, that's uh. Have you you've 53 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: been inside? 54 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah? 55 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: Did you do you feel a aura of spirit in there? 56 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's such a presence and just all the 57 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: pictures on the walls and yeah, it's such a beautiful, 58 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: beautiful place. 59 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that one is a special one. But there's so 60 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: many special places. The Ryman obviously is like going to church, right, 61 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty pretty incredible. What were some of 62 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: the earliest shows that you saw in Nashville that had 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: great impact on you. 64 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: My mom took me to see Stevie Nicks. She took 65 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: me to see Tom Petty on his last run. I've 66 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: seen Darryl Scott. He's incredible. Gosh, there's so so many 67 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: Alison Krause, I got to go to Willie Nelson's one 68 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: of his birthday tribute parties at bridge Stone and everyone 69 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: everyone played. Gosh, there's so many and there's some that 70 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: you know happen every night you go down to the 71 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: Bluebird and there's incredible writers who play riders rounds every night, 72 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: So there's always something. 73 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: Would you have imagined when you saw Tom Petty and 74 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: Heartbreakers play that a few years later that you'd be 75 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: putting out music and benmont Tench from the Heartbreakers would 76 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: be on your album. 77 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: No, never in a million years. No, that was such. 78 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: That was like one of the coolest days of my life. Yeah, 79 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: when when I Dons, who produced the record, we were 80 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: in there and he was like, this needs like organ 81 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, do you want He goes then 82 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: my attention, I'm like and I just remember thinking like 83 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: can I be there, you know, because I didn't you know, 84 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: they're they're all so big. I never know, but yeah, 85 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: we got to go and I remember seeing the coolest 86 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: thing to me, which is so dumb looking back, was 87 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: was the you know, the reserve parking spots. It said 88 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: Don was Cincily Kasman and benmont Tench, and that was 89 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: like the coolest thing to me. I have pictures of 90 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: it on my phone. But yeah, he's the best. It 91 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 2: was such an honor to just watch him do that. 92 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: And how did you get connected with Don Was? Who 93 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: produced your album? He's a legend, Yeah, he is. 94 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: I always knew I wanted Don to make my record. 95 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: I would like look at the backs of CDs growing up, 96 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: and his name would always be on it. So it seems, 97 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: you know, sort of a long shot, but I was like, 98 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: what the heck? So I asked my manager and he 99 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: sent Don some of my music and I don't know 100 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: how it happened or why it happened, but yeah, we 101 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: got to go in for a month and make a record. 102 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: So are there particular learnings from Don Was that you 103 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: picked up that you could share. 104 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: Sure, he's very much so about the artist craft, and 105 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: he doesn't try to change anything. He just tries to enhance. 106 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: He's very good at it. It's almost like hurting cattle, 107 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: like he's just very good at his presence in the room. 108 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: But he's not. He just sits back sort of watches, 109 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: and he sits in the room when we track live, 110 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: and he just sits there with his blueberries and her shoes, 111 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: and he's I know, there's no one like Don. Those 112 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: are the main things. Is he's just kind of an 113 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: observer with little touches here and there, and he knows 114 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: and he knows how. He's so kind, he knows how 115 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: to say things, and everyone feels good when you're in 116 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: a room with Don. And he's good at lifting spirits 117 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: and lifting the music. 118 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: A bit of a zen master, I might say, very much. 119 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, I've ever had the good fortune, but I've 120 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: loved everything he's been involved with throughout his career. Can 121 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: you walk us through what for you is a typical 122 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: songwriting process? 123 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: Gosh, I mean it's it's different every time. I mean 124 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: some nights I'll just won't be able to sleep and 125 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: I'll pick up with a guitar. Some nights, I know, 126 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: if I have an anxiety attack, I know a song's 127 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: coming about an hour later. It's like those kinds of things. 128 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: It's a super quick process, and I don't really know 129 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: how to explain it. It's just sort of there. But 130 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: normally it always starts with the guitar and some sort 131 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: of melodic hook, and then I try to mumble. I'm 132 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: a big mumbler. I just record when I'm mumbling and 133 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: then I listen back and figure out what I'm trying 134 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: to say. It's super subconscious. Yeah, I always write with 135 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: my heart first and then I go. 136 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: Back and I dit, Well, you are a guest on 137 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: our Companion podcast. Music saved me, and it feels like 138 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: what you're talking about in terms of that process is 139 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: kind of the mystical aspects of what music is about. 140 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: Is that correct? 141 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. I don't know where it comes from 142 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: or why, but there's plenty of reasons. 143 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: Do you think to some degree, you know, they talk 144 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: about athletes who get into the zone and they're sort 145 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: of their subconscious really takes over or there athleticism. Do 146 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: you feel there's a similar zone of performance or writing 147 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: that takes place? 148 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: For sure. I think it's always like it's an out 149 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: of body experience. For me, I don't really know what 150 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: I'm doing. I just have like the pen in the paper, 151 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: and I feel like it's a it's a spiritual thing, 152 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: you know, no matter what you believe in. I feel 153 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: like there's some I always write on the floor, there's 154 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: some sort of I don't know why. I think it's 155 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: just energies and like, you know, something moving through you. 156 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, it always it always happens at the weirdest times, 157 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: and that you never know when it's kind of fun. 158 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: You never know, like if you're gonna write, you know, 159 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: the best thing you've ever written someday. I think that's 160 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: why I love it so much, because there's so much 161 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: wonder in it. 162 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: You know. So let's talk about the new music. Maybe 163 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: you can highlight some of your favorite songs that are 164 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: part of the project, your self titled album. 165 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: Some of my favorite Oh gosh, I've been living with 166 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: them for so long. That's kind of a new one 167 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: every day right now. I love there's a song called 168 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: Winning on You that I I. It's super guitar heavy 169 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 2: and jamming, and that's mine right now, I think is 170 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: I'm just rare to go and get this record out. 171 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: But there's a song called Cadillac and then Pick and 172 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: Lose that closes the record. It's it's sort of all 173 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: my secrets are in that song, like I kind of 174 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 2: give everything away at the end. 175 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: How do you deal with any moments where you've got 176 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: creative blocks or you're going through self doubt in a process, 177 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: How do you sort of break out of that? Do 178 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: you go take a walk. Do you what's the method 179 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: for you that sort of frees you when you need 180 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: to be freed. 181 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: I love to pain. I love to to say. You know, 182 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: if I if I'm not coming up with anything musically, 183 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: my mind's probably on like films or photography or painting 184 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: or films are a big one for me. There's like, 185 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: you know two that I that I watch over and 186 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 2: over that I it just keeps. I like to keep 187 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: my mind just so I don't get blocks. I sort 188 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: of try to always be taking in something creatively, so 189 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: I always have something to pull from. So I'm lucky 190 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: at list and plus two, I'm everything's so new to me, 191 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: and I'm I'm lucky that I'm so inspired right now, 192 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: that there's so much to this world that I haven't seen. 193 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: I there's a lot to take in, and so I 194 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: haven't had a lot of blocks recently. Knock on wood. 195 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, if I do it, it's it's movies. 196 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: What are the movies? Just curious? 197 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: There's two or there's three. I Love Calling Me by 198 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: Your Name. I think that's such a beautiful film and 199 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: and I just I love the words, and I I 200 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: think it's it's it's so beautiful And I love Dead 201 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: Poet Society. That's another one that keeps my mind going. 202 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: Good one Hunting. I love Finding Forrester. That's a great movie. 203 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: All them TUTSI you know, those are like the ones 204 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: I always watch, I think as I watched them growing up. 205 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: So how do you envision that your evolution as an 206 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: artist is going to take place? 207 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, that's such a hard question. I think just overall, 208 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: just being true to who I am and not compromising. 209 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: And I don't know. I want to make a lot 210 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: of records. I want to do a lot of things. 211 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 2: I if I can have people come to my shows 212 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: and listen to me live, I think that's like my 213 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: dream is, like, you know, playing substantial venues and keep 214 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 2: that sort of live base going. But I think just 215 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 2: me evolving, you know, as a person and growing and 216 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: getting better and learning about myself and writing better songs. 217 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: And I don't know, I think the music will evolve 218 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: with with me, with how I evolved. 219 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: You ended up with a tremendous label and Glass Note Records. 220 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: How did that come about that you got connected there 221 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: and ultimately became part of Glass Note. 222 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: I got a publishing deal when I was eighteen, I 223 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: got signed a big Yellow Dog Music in Nashville. And 224 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: that's all thanks to Carla Wallace. I she sent my 225 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: music around to some labels and and I loved Class Note. 226 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: I thought they were the coolest, and I love so 227 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: many other artists, and yeah, that's how all that happened. 228 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: But it took a hot second to get everything going, 229 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: but yeah, I love them as the best. 230 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: So in closing, is there any thing that you wish 231 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: you knew when you were first beginning this musical journey 232 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: that you now know. 233 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: I wasn't real good on the patience. I was pretty 234 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: still am. I'm very restless, and I don't realize that, 235 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: you know, things need to take time. And I was 236 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: just so round to go. And like somebody asked me yesterday, 237 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: like what would you tell your younger self back then? 238 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: And I was like, I wouldn't tell her anything because 239 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: she wouldn't have listened. But I think it's just that 240 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 2: things take time, and they're meant to take time. And 241 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: I'm twenty three. I got a long way to go, 242 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: but yeah, that's probably it. Just like calm down for 243 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 2: a second. 244 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: Well, you have a tremendous calming force about you. In 245 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: the midst of your brilliant creative force as well. Congratulations 246 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: on your new music, Cecilia Casselm, and good luck on it. 247 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: And here's too many more successes. And I hope we 248 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: can to have you on as a returning guest and 249 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: hear about well your new collaborations, whoever they might be 250 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: with and all your brilliance. But thank you so much 251 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: for being on Taking a Walk, Cecilia, Thank you, thanks. 252 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 2: So much for having me. 253 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: This is awesome, appreciate it. 254 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 255 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: Walk podcast. Share this and other episodes with your friends 256 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: and follow us so you never miss an episode. Taking 257 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: a Walk is available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 258 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: and wherever you get your podcasts.