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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: You ever seen that dude that's just got it all

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Speaker 2: going on as a freshman in high school, right, He's

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Speaker 2: the best athlete in school, all the girls love him,

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Speaker 2: everything is going really well. He's got life figured out

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Speaker 2: at age fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Every time I see that, I'm like, oh, you're peaking

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Speaker 1: too soon. You're peaking too soon.

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Speaker 2: Because one thing I've learned in light feet from Salami,

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Speaker 2: it just doesn't last forever. Nothing lasts forever. So let's

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Speaker 2: talk about another winner today, the Kansas City Chiefs. We're

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Speaker 2: should be. Hi, brother, how are you doing tonight?

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Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic?

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Speaker 2: Man, Whatever it is you celebrate, you got this and

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Speaker 2: you got one weekend left and then.

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Speaker 3: You better be ready. Yeah, it's it's that's it is it.

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Speaker 1: Get yourself ready. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Are the Chiefs going to be ready for what's going

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Speaker 2: to happen? Also, over the next ten days when they

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Speaker 2: have two more football games. They got another win today

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Speaker 2: this time hey, yay, they covered. They won by double digits.

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Speaker 2: They don't usually do that. Today was one of the days.

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Speaker 2: But Patrick Mahomes leaves then ankle injury, says he doesn't

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Speaker 2: know if he's going to be ready next Saturday. Their

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Speaker 2: kicker returned, but his leg is still buckling and he's

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Speaker 2: not making kicks. And so I wonder what you think,

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Speaker 2: because I think most of us have spent all year

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Speaker 2: long going well.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs win all their games, but the shirt don't

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Speaker 1: look very good.

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Speaker 2: And we joked throughout the show on Sunday Night Football

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Speaker 2: last week, what annoying way will the Chiefs win tonight?

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Speaker 2: And about six minutes after we get off the air,

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Speaker 2: my phone rang and it was from Salam and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: But I knew why you were calling because the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: had just doinked a short field go in off the left, upright,

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Speaker 2: and that was the answer to the question. That was

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Speaker 2: the annoying way that they would win this one. So

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Speaker 2: they win every week, but they don't look great.

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Speaker 1: But what about now? From two games in the next

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Speaker 1: ten days and I hobbled Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: That's not good. And yes I did call you immediately

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Speaker 3: after that game.

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Speaker 1: I all we did was laugh, dude, No words needed to.

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Speaker 3: Be You already knew, right, you already knew. And it

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Speaker 3: was like, come on a game, man. Yep again, I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you this is a tough spot for the Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: not that they mind it being a tough spot. They've

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Speaker 3: pretty much locked up everything they possibly need to lock up.

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Speaker 3: Is there anyone in the AFC that can take the

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Speaker 3: number one seed away from them?

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Speaker 2: I mean the Bills with an interesting, uh, an interesting

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Speaker 2: victory here today, and yes they remain two games out,

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Speaker 2: but hold the tiebreaker. And if you do, look at

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Speaker 2: what the Chiefs have in these final three games. Ain't

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Speaker 2: no cupcakes, right, So let me get Texans on Saturday

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Speaker 2: on Christmas, they go to Pittsburgh and they finish in Denver.

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Speaker 1: Are there two losable games there?

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Speaker 3: Of course? But let me let me pose something to you. Okay,

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Speaker 3: based on where they are right now in the standings,

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Speaker 3: and they're record, all they have to do is win

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Speaker 3: two games.

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Speaker 1: That's correct.

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Speaker 3: Because of the shortness of everything, I would at home,

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Speaker 3: I would sit Patrick Mahomes out against the Texans at

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Speaker 3: home on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Saturday next Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I would not let Patrick Mahomes play that game.

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Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, and anyone else and.

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Speaker 3: Anyone else Kelsey might miss that game as well. Sure,

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Speaker 3: And I would say that because you not only you're

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Speaker 3: I would say I. And look, I believe they could

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Speaker 3: I don't I'm not convinced. And who I hear you,

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Speaker 3: I hear you. But what I don't want to happen

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to hear something interesting. The odds makers

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Speaker 2: a prediction. As we were sitting here talking about this,

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Speaker 2: you a number until we know, right if Patrick is

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Speaker 2: in this game out because how can we handicap it

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Speaker 1: But so so A is there a spread? And B

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Speaker 1: what is it? If there is one? Guess what there

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Speaker 1: is one? What do you think it is?

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Speaker 3: I think it's Texans by three.

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Speaker 2: That is exactly right, nailed it, and it speaks volumes.

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Speaker 2: The odds makers believe that Patrick is not playing in

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Speaker 2: this game, or they certainly believe that we believe that.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is not gonna play in this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I yep, Yeah, I'm there, I'm there.

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Speaker 1: I mean what you're saying, what you're saying makes sense.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense.

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Speaker 3: It has to make sense to Andy, it has to

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Speaker 3: make sense, and Andy's intelligence. Patrick Mahomes is intel. He knows. Look,

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Speaker 3: they have a good opportunity and good chance to go

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Speaker 3: into Texas, uh and and and beat the Texans. Going

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Speaker 3: to hear that in Kansas City. Ecuse me, excuse me?

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Speaker 3: Come home, it's in Kansas City, and play and play

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Speaker 3: Even if we win that game, I can't have Patrick

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Speaker 3: playing Saturday and Wednesday. Can't happen. Not going to do

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Speaker 2: All right, and are you having him sit this one

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Speaker 2: simply because it's the next one.

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Speaker 3: It's the next one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like there's a piece of me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously he even said it after his press conference today.

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Speaker 2: We got to see what it's like when we wake

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Speaker 3: Now, that was it was swagless the way you said that,

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Speaker 3: And that's exactly what Patrick Mahomes is. Wagless.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we love winning all of our games, even though

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Speaker 1: we only score seventeen points.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, the point is is that they may not fully

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Speaker 1: But after that, it's two road games. It's physical defenses.

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Speaker 3: We're not doing not doing it not gonna put them

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Speaker 3: in and I'm not gonna put him in that situation

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Speaker 3: because it doesn't do and it doesn't benefit us in

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Speaker 3: any way. You've done the work miraculously. You're thirteen and one. Okay, Now,

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Speaker 3: what you can't afford to happen is you haven't been

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Speaker 3: playing your best football on either side of the ball

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Speaker 3: the entire year collectively. What you can't defense resurface today.

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Speaker 3: But that's a Jameis Winston thing more than it's a

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Speaker 1: But okay, what you.

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Speaker 3: Can't have happen is the only saving grace that you've

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Speaker 3: have that hampered to a degree of we've gone thirteen

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Speaker 3: stretch these last three games, and it benefits us not

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Speaker 3: if look here, if Buffalo or somebody but Buffalo loses again,

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Speaker 3: we might just take an extended buy. Like it's that

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Speaker 3: Chris Jones, Hey, everybody will be going to to just

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Speaker 3: take a break. Sure, let's take a break.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, you said one thing I don't

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Speaker 1: my curiosity because you said that the Chiefs don't.

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Speaker 2: Mind this situation, the fact that they're playing three games

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Speaker 2: the injury. It may present them the opportunity because they

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Speaker 2: still wanted to. It may present the opportunity you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: But throughout the week, the Chiefs openly talked about how

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Speaker 2: but said, if you're going.

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Speaker 1: To do that to a team, then we need to

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Speaker 1: have a late bye week.

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Speaker 2: And I think he's pointing to the Baltimore Ravens, for example,

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Speaker 1: And he was like, they the bye week last week.

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Speaker 2: Last week, while the Chiefs, I think, if memory serves,

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Speaker 1: So whatever.

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Speaker 2: On that point, I get what he's saying. What I'm

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Speaker 3: I meant they didn't mind uh playing so soon. If

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Speaker 3: because even if like I wouldn't want him to play,

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Speaker 3: fact that they can almost kill two birds with one stone,

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Speaker 3: that's we can sit him out, not really and then

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Speaker 3: little bit of extra, you know, with him sitting out Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: we'll see how that that is. Right. That's a Christmas Day.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I knew a couple years ago. I

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Speaker 3: about to take Christmas from the NBA. It's gone. So

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Speaker 1: This was the only day that the world might have thought,

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Speaker 1: no way, it wouldn't work. You can't play on a

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Speaker 3: Yeah we can.

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 3: So I think this is a gift and a curse

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Speaker 3: for the Chiefs, a curse for all the other players

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Speaker 3: and the coaching staff to have to do quick turnarounds.

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Speaker 3: But the gift of you know what, we've had the

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Speaker 3: type of season to where we can take a liberty.

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Speaker 3: Take your liberty now. You don't want to take it

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Speaker 3: the last week of the season. You don't want it

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Speaker 3: to get to a situation where Patrick Mahomes is hurt more.

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Speaker 3: That's what you can't have based on how you guys

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Happy holidays, evrebody tyreq dot com Studios. Mark Willardy

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Speaker 1: from Salam.

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Speaker 2: About to get underway in Seattle, the Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 2: going on in the AFC playoff. Picture this Packer team

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Speaker 1: And you can have the field in the NFC.

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Speaker 2: Like in other words, what do you think the chances

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Speaker 3: Four you said, the Lions, Packers, Vikings, Vikings, and Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Does anyone else have a shot?

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Speaker 1: Man, like even a shot? Give me give me a

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Speaker 3: That's tough, man, because I don't. The funny part is

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Speaker 3: that's all the maybe is that it hold on, wait

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised or shocked what they might even

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Speaker 1: So hood us.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say the Rams, like if they

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Speaker 1: Wait, well they did. I'm sorry the way there, No.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking the charges. I'm sorry if if the Rams

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Speaker 3: so that would be the only But that's one. So

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Speaker 3: why would you take the field none?

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Speaker 1: No, no, I guess you know the field of one.

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Speaker 3: But that would be the only team that I would

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, except for I think I can like

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Speaker 2: it's this, they don't play defense. There are there are

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Speaker 3: It, I got you.

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Speaker 1: It's and it's the Panthers and the Cowboys. That's it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I got you. But you know, just yeah,

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Speaker 3: He's a loaded gun.

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Speaker 1: Washington doesn't do that, doesn't They're just too young, too young?

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Speaker 1: Does Tampa Bay make you think one row they're gonna

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Speaker 3: And Baker Mayfield is something else? But no, I don't see.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know who they are.

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Speaker 1: Same also one for in a row.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they wouldn't make me take the field.

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Speaker 1: What if they what if they win this one? What

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Speaker 3: And they can still wouldn't make me take the field

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Speaker 3: over those four that you said, those four that you

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Speaker 3: you would essentially be giving away for and taking two. Realistically,

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Speaker 3: for sure, rights those odds are on any level don't

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Speaker 1: I agree, with you on Matt.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's circle back to that because we're ready

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Speaker 1: Cole, thank you for coming on. How's it going.

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Speaker 3: I'm great.

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Speaker 1: We're doing great, man, We're doing great. Like, give us

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Speaker 5: Sorry, I couldn't hear you very well, would you say?

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Speaker 2: I said, give us a sense of what a win

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Speaker 1: What does this do for your locker room? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: It was definitely definitely they win for us. We were

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Speaker 5: It's awesome. I mean, there's so many guys that you're

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Speaker 1: Cole Bishop with us of the Buffalo Bills. Cole, you

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Speaker 1: there's still a lot of eyes on the Lions. Can

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Speaker 5: But uh, you know, I'm excited to see the films

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's amazing. It's uh, it's funny. I've

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Speaker 5: so you know, on third down, we're getting ready to

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Speaker 3: So still watch.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome, cald this ship up the buff flow Bills

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Speaker 2: Cole as he from said, this is this is your

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Speaker 1: What but what can you say about your rookie year?

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Speaker 1: What has surprised you about this league?

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't necessarily say anything surprise me. I mean every team,

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Speaker 5: I mean every week, anything can happen on any Sunday.

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Speaker 5: You know that's obviously saying in college people say that,

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Speaker 5: but it's definitely a bigger thing here, Like you're never

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Speaker 5: I said a minute ago, just learn from all these

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, coming in being a rookie,

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Speaker 3: How's that been for you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 5: I mean I got a really good support system. My

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Speaker 5: I hate to keep going back to it, but keep

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Speaker 1: I hear you, Cole.

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Speaker 2: Two weeks ago, during our show on Sunday Night Football,

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Speaker 2: we watched you guys play in a driving snowstorm in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: You haven't played outside since then, which do you enjoy more?

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Speaker 5: That was my first snow game at Utah, practicing a

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Speaker 5: few times, but it was. It was a pretty cool

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Speaker 5: game in the show for sure. Now, I don't know

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Speaker 5: if I want to do that every week, every every

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Speaker 3: I got I got one. I got one more for you, Cole.

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Speaker 3: I know you can want to go and celebrate getting

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Speaker 3: the number one seed and having the AFC Playoffs run

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Speaker 5: It's not necessarily I mean, obviously everybody knows that that's

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Speaker 5: the thing, but a big focus, Russ is going week

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Speaker 5: but I mean that's just what we focused on. You

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Speaker 5: can't go to those you can't be the one seed

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Speaker 5: if you don't win every week, you know, So we're

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Speaker 5: just trying to go one in every week.

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Speaker 2: Cole, thank you so much for spending some time with us,

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Speaker 2: and congratulations on a big day.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you man, Thank you guys. Enjoy it, man, keep

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Speaker 3: it right, keep it going, brother, all right there it

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Speaker 3: is great.

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Speaker 2: Miship Buffalo Bills forty eight, forty two over the Detroit

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's a big deal. That is a

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Speaker 1: it's as big of a deal as Martin Weiss, but

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Speaker 1: it's a big deal. No know.

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Speaker 6: Let's start with that Bills and Lions game. Jared Goff

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Speaker 6: had five touchdown passes in a loss. That means the

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Speaker 6: Lions won a game this year in which Jared Goff

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Speaker 6: had five interceptions. And lost the game which he had

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Speaker 6: five touchdowns. On the winning side of things, Josh Allen

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Speaker 6: had two rushing touchdowns two passing touchdowns. Again the score

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Speaker 6: they are forty eight to forty two. The Steelers and

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Speaker 6: the Eagles Philadelphia with a twenty seven to thirteen win.

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Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts with three total touchdowns, one to aj Brown

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Speaker 6: who had eight catches one hundred and ten yards receiving.

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Speaker 6: The Cardinals beat the Patriots thirty to seventeen. The Buccaneers

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Speaker 6: beat the Chargers forty to seventeen. The Broncos beat the

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Speaker 6: Colts thirty one to thirteen. Jonathan Taylor was walking into

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Speaker 6: the end zone it was made to score nineteen to

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Speaker 6: seven Indianapolis. He fumbled before he gave the ball up

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Speaker 6: and fumbled out of bounce out of the back of

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Speaker 6: the end zone, touchdown a touch back rather to Denver.

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Speaker 6: Indianapolis did not score again thirty one to thirteen in

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Speaker 6: the final there CJ. Stroud had two touchdown passes to

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Speaker 6: Nico Collins as the Texans beat the Dolphins twenty to

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Speaker 6: twelve to a tongue of with three interceptions. The New

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Speaker 6: York Jets with a thirty two to twenty five win

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Speaker 6: over the Jaguars. Davonte Adams had one hundred and ninety

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Speaker 6: eight receiving yards and two touchdowns in the second half. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and in the first half though, so it kind of

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Speaker 6: bounces out, I guess. Cowboys and the Panthers thirty to

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Speaker 6: fourteen win Dallas.

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Speaker 7: A win for Dallas.

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Speaker 6: Bryce Young had been playing better football recently, but struggled

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Speaker 6: today with two interceptions only two hundred nineteen yards through

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Speaker 6: the aer Rico Daldo had one hundred and forty nine

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Speaker 6: yards receiving. C. J. Lamb nine catches, one hundred and

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Speaker 6: sixteen yard see D Lamb nine catches, one hundred and

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Speaker 6: sixteen yards and a touchdown. Lamar Jackson had five touchdown

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Speaker 6: passes to as the Ravens beat the Giants thirty five

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Speaker 6: to fourteen. Commanders held on the last play of the

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Speaker 6: game as backup Saints quarterbacks Spensler. Rattler got a touchdown

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Speaker 6: as time expired, tried to get a two point conversion

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Speaker 6: to take the win, didn't get it, twenty to nineteen.

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Speaker 6: Washington survives advances to nine and five on the year.

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Speaker 6: Bengals get their sixth win of the season, thirty seven

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Speaker 6: to twenty seven over the Titans. Will Levis had three

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Speaker 6: interceptions in this game, was eventually bench Joe Burrow three

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Speaker 6: touchdown passes won the Chase Brown who had ninety seven

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Speaker 6: yards rushing too. The Chiefs beat the Browns twenty one

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Speaker 6: to seven. Patrick Mahomes injured his ankle on his way

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Speaker 6: to one hundred fifty nine yards through the air and

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Speaker 6: two touchdowns. Carson Wentz finished this game out in the

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Speaker 6: fourth quarter. Andy Reid says the Mahomes could have went

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Speaker 6: out and played. The NFL network is saying the injury

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Speaker 6: is weak to week, so we'll have more clarification on

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Speaker 6: Mahomes's injury tomorrow, likely Within nine minutes left in the

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Speaker 6: first quarter, the Packers lead the Seahawks seven and nothing.

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Speaker 6: Sunday Night Football. Jordan Love two for two so far.

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Speaker 6: Josh Jacobs continuing his hot streak. Seven carries, twenty seven

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Speaker 6: yards and a touchdown. The touchdown so far in the

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Speaker 6: game Seattle with the ball driving down the field. Mark

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Speaker 6: an Ephim back to you, guys, Martin.

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Speaker 2: That's why you're a big deal man. That's good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you so much. We'll talk to you again in

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Speaker 2: an hour. We're live in the tie reck dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: Just because you brought it up with Cole Bishop our guest,

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Speaker 2: I want to throw something at you, and you tell

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Speaker 2: me if two losses in the standings are enough to

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Speaker 2: make everybody feel the way they.

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Speaker 1: Feel, I get it. He is phenomenal and they are

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Speaker 1: twelve and three, and they have beaten the Chiefs and

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Speaker 1: they have beaten the Lions, and he is so helpful

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Speaker 1: this time of year for all of you. If you

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Speaker 1: have him on your fantasy team, good luck in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: But what if I told you that there's a quarterback

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Speaker 2: when compared with Josh Allen who has more passing yards,

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Speaker 2: more touchdowns, fewer interceptions, a much better quarterback rating and

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Speaker 2: I had to head win by twenty five points. Why

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Speaker 2: am I not allowed to line all of that up

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Speaker 2: and tell you that I still believe Lamar Jackson's the

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Speaker 2: MVP of the league.

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Speaker 3: No, you can't. You can, I mean, just especially given

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Speaker 3: his performance today. I mean, but what's happening is Lamar

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Speaker 3: was the MVP last year, So you know how this

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Speaker 3: thing goes?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I do?

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Speaker 3: And what Josh Allen is doing when you look at

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Speaker 3: how he's playing some of those throws today. I was like,

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Speaker 3: oh my goodness, they were perfect passes. The use of

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Speaker 3: his legs today exquisite. How he's leading this team, you know,

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Speaker 3: against top tier playoff competition was amazing. And so three

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Speaker 3: hundred and sixty two yards, two touchdowns, another sixty eight

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Speaker 3: on the ground, two touchdowns.

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Speaker 8: Two more touchdowns, and it's like, oh man, And not

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Speaker 8: to take anything away from Lamar Jackson, and people have

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Speaker 8: to realize this, just because you are throwing support, are you're.

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Speaker 3: Giving praise to another player. I'm not detracting from Lamar

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Speaker 3: Jackson missing four completions today for almost three hundred yards

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Speaker 3: and five touchdowns, right, adding another sixty five yards on

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Speaker 3: the ground. I'm not taking away from that. All I'm

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Speaker 3: saying is, boy, this thing is coming down to it

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Speaker 3: nine and five and what are they?

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Speaker 1: What are the And yeah, their record is their record

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Speaker 1: is two games.

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Speaker 3: Better, right, eleven and three right? So depending on how

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Speaker 3: this shakes out, I mean, the two best players on

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Speaker 3: these prospective teams. If Buffalo's the two seed and Baltimore's

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Speaker 3: the three seed, the numbers or what they are, then

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Speaker 3: what are we talking about?

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Speaker 1: What are we talking about? I mean, yeah, long way

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Speaker 1: to go.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore hasn't even clinched the playoffs spot and right now

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Speaker 2: has a sort of essentially a game and a half

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Speaker 2: to clear to even win their division.

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Speaker 3: That's true, they got a lot of work to do.

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Speaker 2: But my point is is this has always been true

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Speaker 2: in college football, and it's true when it comes to

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Speaker 2: awards in the NFL. Boy, we forget about stuff that

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Speaker 2: happened early in the season and we just focus on

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Speaker 2: what happened yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Human nature, it's human nature.

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Speaker 2: But I just want to remind people if this were

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Speaker 2: a Heisman race, we freak out about when two Heisman candidates,

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Speaker 2: like last year on Christmas Day, Lamar Jackson and Brock

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Speaker 2: Perdy were the two MVP front runners. One of them

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Speaker 2: played great, one of them threw four picks. That was

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Speaker 2: the end of that because head to head trump Saul Well.

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Speaker 2: Lamar played Josh in September in September and he won

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Speaker 2: by twenty five points.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's team got ten points that day. If that

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Speaker 1: game it happened today, this race would be over. Barbecue,

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Speaker 1: it be over.

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Speaker 3: You're right, that that is that is human That's what

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Speaker 3: human nature is.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Just want but I just want to throw that out there,

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Speaker 2: I got I believe that that race should still be tight.

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Speaker 2: I grant you that it's not, but I believe that

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Speaker 2: race should still be really tight.

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Speaker 3: And I wouldn't go, I wouldn't go all the way

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Speaker 3: to say it's not tight because there's some pivotal games

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Speaker 3: coming down the stretch. And look if both of them

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Speaker 3: keep putting up these type of numbers, I mean, sheh,

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Speaker 3: then flip a coin. Why don't you? Yeah, it can't

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Speaker 3: go right, right, I mean, what are we going? But

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Speaker 3: and they can split it? Just FYI sure they won't.

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Speaker 1: They won't. This is like you said it also, Lamar,

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Speaker 1: winning it last year works against it.

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Speaker 2: It does because people are like, oh, let's spread it around,

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Speaker 2: you know. But anyway, look, Saturday is six days away.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens play the Steelers at home, and they have

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Speaker 2: to win. They have to win or else this conversation

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Speaker 2: is truly over because that would get them back into

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Speaker 2: a flat footed tie for first place, and then maybe

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Speaker 2: we can see what happens from there. Okay, Mark Warty

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Speaker 2: from Salam, so glad that you're with us. I do

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Speaker 2: want to duck out from the NFL for just a second.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next to ask you about Lebron James quote,

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Speaker 2: he's going to give it a go in their game tonight.

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Speaker 1: But where's he been, brother? And what's going on? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that coming up next on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes we just need to be to have some peace.

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Speaker 1: I said, like, hey, you would like to be turned off? Man,

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Speaker 1: come on, come on something.

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Speaker 5: I said.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, like, he's dark. That's enough words out of him. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: tyreck dot com Studios, how y'all doing? That's it from

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Speaker 2: Salam I am Mark Whellard. Where was Lebron this week?

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Speaker 1: What was that? Why's it got to be all mysterious?

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Speaker 1: That's my question?

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Speaker 2: The whole world, Like take an NFL Sunday, for example,

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Speaker 2: there's Adam Schefter at three in the morning Eastern time,

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Speaker 2: so and so is expected to play tomorrow. That man's

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Speaker 2: on the phone talking to GMS agents, players, assistant coaches,

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Speaker 2: water dudes. I mean, he's on it and we've got

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Speaker 2: all this stuff that needs to be above board. We've

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Speaker 2: got an injury report, you're questionable, you're doubtful, you're in,

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Speaker 2: you're out, you're what.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's got all of this, But Lebron, Lebron going into

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Speaker 1: a Lakers break, goes away and then goes away again,

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Speaker 1: and JJ Reddick, I don't know if he had to

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Speaker 1: do this, but you might as well have just taken

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Speaker 1: a gas can and poured it all over your fireplace.

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Speaker 1: When they're like, where's Lebron and he's like, he not here.

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Speaker 1: When's he coming back? I don't know when's he? Is

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Speaker 1: he playing in the next game? Really not sure? Like, dude,

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Speaker 1: make something up, like what what on earth? You're gonna

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Speaker 1: freak everyone out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it became something bigger than it was because it

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Speaker 3: wasn't handled properly, and so you know, look, he's a

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Speaker 3: rookie coach, all right, he's a rookie coach. Is it

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Speaker 3: definitely on him?

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Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't know what he was told

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Speaker 1: to say.

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Speaker 3: You still gotta be savvy, like you can you see Papovich.

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Speaker 3: Papovitch would have just gave you whatever the answer you want.

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Speaker 3: Our Eric Spolstra, are you know a seasoned coach?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: He gave us just enough and not enough to speculate.

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Speaker 1: I guess, I guess, except for it's Lebron.

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Speaker 2: So I always just look at anything Lebron related as

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Speaker 2: that's how Lebron wanted it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he could have even came out and said that

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Speaker 3: that would have even been better. Yeah, he's earned the right,

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Speaker 3: sure at forty to want to take care of his

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Speaker 3: body or whatever, and then moved completely on. Uh huh.

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Speaker 3: What I think happened is.

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Speaker 7: He's so.

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Speaker 3: He's so concerned about his legacy and this notion of

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Speaker 3: being the greatest in all of that, that he wanted

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Speaker 3: to play all eighty two this year at forty because

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Speaker 3: Jordan played all eighty two. But it's not even about that, right,

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Speaker 3: It's not all about that. It's about let's focus on

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Speaker 3: this season itself. What can we do to help the team.

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Speaker 3: Can we get into the playoffs and stay out of

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Speaker 3: the play in can we like those are the focus.

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Speaker 3: If you have to take some time, take some time

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Speaker 3: off of you forty. Nobody's expecting you to play eighty

661
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 3: two games with the amount of minutes that you have

662
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: on your body. Don't You don't have to impress us, Lebron.

663
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying, Like, so it becomes more

664
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 3: of a you trying to show out you don't have

665
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: to do that for us. Don't focus on that. I

666
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: don't want you to focus on that. I want you

667
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: to focus on not turn the ball over. That's really

668
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 3: what I want you to focus on. I mean, that

669
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: would make me feel great. Look if you if you

670
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: played seventy games this year, I think I'd be okay.

671
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: I think I'd be fine. He's took twelve games off.

672
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: You think he's happy.

673
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 3: I don't think he's happy.

674
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: See that That was where my mind went, and only

675
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: because it was handled so mysteriously that that Brian Winhorse

676
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: and everybody's all over going trade speculations would be if

677
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: Lebron wants to be traded, the Warriors are ready to chat,

678
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: and the Warriors aren't going to talk to anyone else

679
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: till they know what's going on with Lebron.

680
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: And then it was all as if the world turned

681
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 1: to Lebron and went, hey, Lebron, what's your wait, where's Lebron?

682
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 2: And they couldn't even get his response, and then people

683
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: were like where is he? And the Lakers are like,

684
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: we don't know, and it made it feel like it

685
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: was a protest or something.

686
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was some type of he's not going to

687
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: play again until he's traded. Right now, players can be

688
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: today players case. It's open for players who normally wouldn't

689
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: be able to be traded yet it's it's open season now.

690
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: Traded exactly.

691
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: Exactly, So I mean he's back and we'll quote give

692
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: it a go tonight against Memphis.

693
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: At the same time, I'm scratching my head.

694
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: And I'm watching it is not a very good team

695
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: right now.

696
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: One eyebrow is up. One eyebrow is up for sure.

697
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, I've been waiting since Thursday night to get

698
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 2: your response on Devondre Campbell. I don't want to play

699
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: and then leaves the field.

700
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Speaker 1: That's next. I guess Ephraim's about to get loose.

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Speaker 1: Tyreck dot com theway tyn should be. Okay, Ephraim, you're

707
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: in an NFL locker room, go back to your playing days.

708
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Speaker 3: All right, let me go hold on, wait, wait, okay

709
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Speaker 3: you in I'm there.

710
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Speaker 2: Okay, you have anywhere from what fifty five sixty five

711
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: seventy teammates when you start talking about ins and outs

712
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: and practice squad and scout team all that, and that

713
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: brotherhood is together throughout the physical journey that is the

714
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Speaker 2: NFL season.

715
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: You get down toward the end. The season has been

716
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: filled with all kinds of bumps and bruises and troubles,

717
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: but you still have a shot, and you're in that

718
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: needed moment. You have to have it. You have to

719
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: have it.

720
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 2: Players at your position are dropping like flies, and even

721
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: the ones who are on the field are playing through injury.

722
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Speaker 1: It's week fifteen and you've been playing a lot.

723
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: But in this particular game, the way the way the

724
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: roster and everything laid out, you had kind of been

725
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: moved from starter to benchroll. But then it turns your

726
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: way and your team says we need you in there,

727
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: and that teammate of yours says, no, thanks, not feeling it?

728
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: How would that make you feel? Oh?

729
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not even the howes to make me

730
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: feel It's okay?

731
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Speaker 1: Cool?

732
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: Then we don't need you. You go through so much

733
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 3: as a professional, especially football I'll say professional athlete, but

734
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 3: I know what you have to sacrifice and the things

735
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 3: that you have to do to make it to the NFL,

736
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: to stay in the NFL, to be a starter in

737
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: the NFL, to play over ten years, and I know

738
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: what the sacrifices look like. I know sometimes it doesn't

739
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: go your way. I've been in that situation, and thank

740
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: god I had a father who I can reach out to.

741
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: Third year, in my fourth going into my fourth year

742
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: in the league in Atlanta, I was high tendered because

743
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: I was a seventh round draft pick and I had

744
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 3: started the previous three years. And you know, back then

745
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: there were no early contract extensions and all that, you

746
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: can play all these out and then we're gonna go

747
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: do it. Before free agency, it was no your earlies,

748
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: and so especially on rookies, like they had your rights

749
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: no matter what for four years. That's just what it was.

750
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 3: And so they couldn't pay me minimum or they couldn't

751
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 3: low tender me because all the team would have to

752
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: do was give up a seventh round draft pick for

753
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 3: a start and right tackle. And so they high tendered

754
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: me and it was I think it was like a

755
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: million and five. I think I made a million. That

756
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 3: was the tender, and I was like, oh my gosh.

757
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 3: Before then, I don't think I had made over three

758
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: hundred grand in any year, and so I was excited.

759
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: But then they drafted a kid out of sc to

760
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: come off the offensive line and they were gonna have

761
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: us compete whatever it was. But then they told me,

762
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 3: and I don't even know if this was legal, but

763
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: they told me that they weren't going to my high

764
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: tender wasn't gonna be my salary. My salary was going

765
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: to be six hundred thousand, and if I played, I

766
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 3: could earn the other six hundred thousand. It was something crazy,

767
00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: and I was livid. I was livid because I was like,

768
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 3: I just I've been starting for three years for free,

769
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: for free, and I was like, I don't want to

770
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Speaker 3: do this. I want to leave, and oh my dad,

771
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 3: and they said, hey, look man, let me tell you this.

772
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: It's like these people drafted you. They gave you an opportunity.

773
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: You've played a lot of football, you have value. Don't

774
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 3: give the value back. They said, you can't control when

775
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: and how long you'll play. All you can control is

776
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 3: how you play. It's a job, no matter what they're

777
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: paying you. They hired you, so be professional, show up,

778
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Speaker 3: go to work, do what you're supposed to do, and

779
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: when you get your opportunity, handle it. And so that

780
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: was my mind, even though I was dejected. I was

781
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: pissed off. You got my rookie year one hundred and

782
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 3: sixty seven thousand dollars, second year two hundred grand, third

783
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: year I think like three ten or something like that

784
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: while starting all of the games. That's nothing. And so

785
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: I was pissed off. I was I'm finally gonna make

786
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 3: over a million dollars and they're like no, And so

787
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: I I know what that feeling is. But I also

788
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: know what it feels like to be a teammate, someone

789
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 3: that they depended on and counted on, which they did,

790
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: ye right, whoever they brought in and replaced me, that

791
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: wasn't it. So I had to show up and show

792
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 3: out and I did, and they got me to denver

793
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: On on a bigger contract and so on and so forth.

794
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: So when things like what we saw happen in the

795
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: San Francisco game, what's the young man's name.

796
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: Yere Campbell? And I should have Yeah, I should have

797
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: said off the top, you know, sort of what I

798
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: was referring to. I knew it was no, I knew

799
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: you did.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, what like the example you give,

801
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 2: while applicable on some fronts, there's some other things going

802
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: on here. I would argue that there's two things. First

803
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: of all, do you actually have a beef? Because this

804
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: happens in life. I'm not telling people not to be

805
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: in their feelings. They got feelings. You just displayed a

806
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: situation where I think you had a beef. But the

807
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: second thing, though, is if you have a beef, how

808
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: do you handle it? Because I damn well bet if

809
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: you were gonna not play, I bet you would have

810
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: at least told the team that ahead of time so

811
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: that they could your brotherhood, your teammates could have had

812
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: somebody else there called up or whatever from the practice

813
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 2: squad so that they could actually be ready to play

814
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: a football game in week fifteen at the end of

815
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: the year when everybody's hurt. So there's that, and then

816
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: let's back up, have a beef. Like if I were

817
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 2: sitting in front of dev Andre right now, doesn't everybody

818
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: want to ask him the same question? Hey, dude, what

819
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: you think was gonna happen when Dre Greenlaw got help him?

820
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 3: Have no idea what he thought.

821
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: Dre freaking green Law? Of course you're gonna be a

822
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: backup as soon as he's ready. Are you absolutely insane?

823
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: You thought you were gonna be the starter alongside Fred Warner?

824
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: For eternity? What on earth are you thinking?

825
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: Nothing? Let alone how.

826
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Speaker 1: You then handled it after the fact. So to me,

827
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: this is a one two punch of absolute insanity followed

828
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: by oh no, you don't.

829
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Forrest Gump says, stupid is what stupid does, right,

830
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 3: Mama says, wow, Wow? It is unprofessional, it's a coward's

831
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 3: way out, and neither one of those things have a

832
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: place in team sports at the highest level. It's too

833
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 3: much emotional and physical sacrifice by everyone involved for you

834
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: to be that selfish. It's just not conducive to creating

835
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: the type of atmosphere you need to win. Just not

836
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: gonna happen, And that'll follow him for the rest of

837
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 3: his life. That'll follow him for the rest of his life.

838
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: I would and you tell me if the emotion is talking,

839
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: just as a fan. But I heard a lot of

840
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 2: people say this. I wonder if you agree I think his.

841
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: Career is over.

842
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: It's tough to bounce back from that. But once you're right,

843
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: and but but also I want, like just purely on

844
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 3: a football uh a football availability issue, just on the

845
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 3: field stuff, then you're absolutely right. My question would be

846
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 3: what's going on in this young man's life, Like, what's

847
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 3: happening right? Like what we don't see? And I'm not

848
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: saying this is the reason. It could just because he's

849
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 3: just not a good teammate and he doesn't value you know,

850
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 3: his teammates or his situation. It could be that, yep.

851
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: But I always like to play devil's advocate because you

852
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 3: don't know, like and sure, six weeks you could find

853
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 3: out that so and so happened and this and that

854
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 3: and he was dealing with whatever. So I always leave

855
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: a glamour of a maybe based on all the information

856
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 3: right now, it could come out and I'm just specless.

857
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: I'm just speclas of speculating. This is purely speculatory, right, Like,

858
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: whatever the situation going on off the field that has

859
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 3: had him feel like this, I can see see how

860
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: if someone's not capable of dealing with said things that

861
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 3: it could have you spiral. I've seen that. I've seen

862
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 3: that with my own eyes, and I've I've and guys

863
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 3: have been, you know, very forgiving when you find out

864
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 3: all the information. Now, if this is purely just I'm

865
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 3: mad because he's starting and I'm not, and now you

866
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 3: want me to come in the game, then go home. Bro,

867
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: You got all the time you want to be with yourself. Yep,

868
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 3: go home. There's to happen, right.

869
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers have announced already that they are

870
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 2: going to suspend him. His career with the Niners is over.

871
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: But the only reason they're not releasing him is that

872
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: would be more financially problematic for the forty nine ers

873
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: than it would for Devandres. So they're going to suspend him,

874
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: and that way they get to recoup.

875
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: Something to get that money. If they get that money back, the.

876
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: Money back and he doesn't get to go play anywhere

877
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 2: else in the meantime. But he's thirty one years old.

878
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 2: He'll be thirty when an NFL season rolls back around again.

879
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: That's a wrap.

880
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: That man walked off an NFL field for the last

881
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: time on Thursday night.

882
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: I would agree with that.

883
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: Crazy.

884
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: Yep, just walked yourself into nothing.

885
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, a good player a couple of years ago too, Yeah,

886
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: you know he was okay.

887
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: Now, he was on a one year proven deal. He

888
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 3: had some good games and he was, you know, a

889
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: great fill in and all of that. But look, oh

890
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 3: that's gone.

891
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: Damn, damn, just like that. Hey, I know this is

892
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: your favorite subject. Did you see what Dan Campbell did today?

893
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: Did you?

894
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 3: Of course? I watched the game? Man, all right, then let's.

895
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: Talk it out please. I can't wait.

896
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 2: That's coming up next with them from Salama, Mark Whellard

897
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: and this is Fox Sports Radio.

898
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: It really is. He from It really is. You got

899
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: hot stove, Baseball, NBA, taking shape, NFL down the stretch,

900
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: and I hope all the year feeling some sort of

901
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: holiday spirit whatever it is.

902
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: We're live in the tie rack dot Com studios. We also,

903
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: I mean, my favorite holiday tradition, get together on Sunday

904
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 2: night and discuss what Dan Campbell did. That's all I

905
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: like to do, and I get to do it with you.

906
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: It's pretty great. So there's twelve minutes left to go

907
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: in a football game.

908
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: Ye to high level football game, two really good teams,

909
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: and boy, they can score. They can score in bunches,

910
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: they can score fast. Gone are the days where you

911
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: can surprise somebody with an on sidekick that is no

912
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: longer legal in the NFL. And so.

913
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: What does Dan do down ten twelve minutes to go?

914
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: You've just scored, You're down ten with twelve minutes to go.

915
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 2: You don't even need to be in a big NFL

916
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 2: fan for me to tell you that game's not over.

917
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: That game's not over at all.

918
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: This man goes for a we're gonna tell you about it,

919
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: on side kick byke. He goes for yeah, he go.

920
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: He goes for an onside kick, and Khalil Shakier grabs

921
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: it and runs it to the four, runs it all

922
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: the way down to a first and goal situation, and

923
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,919
Speaker 1: one play later, Ray Davis is in the end zone.

924
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: And now you're down by seventeen. Okay, now you talk,

925
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: Go ahead, say what you want to say.

926
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: This is why we constantly say and people have been

927
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 3: asking me, and we've been debating all year the best

928
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 3: team and this and that. And I remember a couple

929
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 3: of weeks ago, I said, well, if it's Andy Reid

930
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: against uh oh no. At first, I said, if it's

931
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes versus Jared Golf. What do you take, oh,

932
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, If it's Andy Reid versus Dan Campbell, who

933
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 3: would you trust? You know, Andy Reid or Okay, Well,

934
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 3: then that's the team that's the best to me. And

935
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 3: these are the situations why I say things like that,

936
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: because in a game that was nowhere near over, you

937
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 3: give points to the other team constantly. And that is

938
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 3: why I can't trust you to win it all because

939
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 3: as hard as it as it is to score in

940
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 3: the playoffs, you consistently put your team in harm's way

941
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: by your decisions alone. Not that the quarterback goes out

942
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 3: and throws an interception or the defense gives up a

943
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 3: thirteen play drive and a touchdown, none of those things.

944
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 3: It's purely based on the decisions you make as the

945
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 3: coach in the game, whether to use timeouts, not use timeouts, win,

946
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 3: and where to go forward on fourth down and to

947
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 3: suppro and to telegraphed in an on side kick with

948
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 3: twelve minutes left in a back and forth football game.

949
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 3: To me, it makes no sense. Oh, especially when you

950
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 3: lose by six.

951
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: Hello.

952
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 3: That is the problem I'm having with Dan Campbell. And yes,

953
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 3: he is a tremendous coach that the Detroit franchise needed

954
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: to change the entire culture of mediocrity. Still the only

955
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 3: team that made two Hall of Fame all time greats

956
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 3: want to go do something else early, and so it

957
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 3: took a force of nature that is Dan Campbell to

958
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 3: change the trajectory of the franchise, and he has I

959
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 3: commend him for that.

960
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: But now, in order to.

961
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 3: Move forward and become champions like you want to sow

962
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: very bad like the city of Detroit needs. If your

963
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 3: ego is too big, it'll never happen. Stop doing what

964
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 3: you feel like doing and do what's right. That's the

965
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: problem I'm having you walking back and forth and scowling.

966
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: And I get it. Yes, you are a four down

967
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 3: possession team. Every possession you can expect them to use

968
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 3: all four downs to get a first down. Okay, but

969
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 3: when you start doing extra things, why would you on

970
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: side kick there? Why would you on side kick there

971
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 3: when you can just as easily kick the ball down,

972
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 3: go three and out and get the ball back within

973
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 3: a minute and a half. It happens. It happens like

974
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: that all the time.

975
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: There's only twelve there's twelve minutes left, and you're at home, right.

976
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: This is not this is not a moment where like

977
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: the game is even on the line.

978
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: It's not even near the pin on the line.

979
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: So the only thing I can think of is that

980
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: he's telling his very injured defense, who, by the way,

981
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: lost two more players again today and he terms both

982
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 2: of them as likely season ending injuries.

983
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: The only thing I can think of is he literally thought,

984
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: we can't stop him.

985
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 2: We can't stop him, and we're gonna be down two scores,

986
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: so we might as well take a shot here to

987
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 2: see if we can get a bounce to go our

988
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: way and get within one score.

989
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: And if we don't, we never will. Yeah, it's the

990
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: only thing that I can think of that went through

991
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: his head. It doesn't sound like something that would go

992
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: through his head.

993
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 3: But you know what, what you know what? You know

994
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 3: what's not going through his head. The flip side of that,

995
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 3: the flip side of any decision you make. You need

996
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 3: to look at both sides in life, not just in sport,

997
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: In life. I want to marry this good? Should I

998
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 3: get married? Okay, Well, let's look at it right, let's

999
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 3: look at it right. I need to take this job.

1000
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 3: Let us look at it oh, I want to move

1001
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 3: to so and so let's look at it both sides,

1002
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: the good, the bad, the pros, the cons. He's just

1003
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 3: looking at the pros right in his decision making. He

1004
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 3: does not even acknowledge the cons. That is the problem,

1005
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 3: and that's what gets you beat. Ask the San Francisco

1006
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 3: forty nine ers in the NFC Championship game last year,

1007
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 3: he himself lost the football game that would have put

1008
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: them in the Super Bowl himself.

1009
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: Well, I you know what, it's interesting that you bring

1010
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 2: that up. I know that, like it's always the lead

1011
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: story when we talk about this, and I wonder.

1012
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: If if he's not coaching against the ghosts of that game,

1013
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: he's only down.

1014
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 2: Well that's like the only thing that makes me hesitate

1015
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: on that is that he's always been coaching like this.

1016
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: So maybe this is just what he plans to always do.

1017
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, then I would argue, Man,

1018
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: that's somebody who just don't learn their lessons when they

1019
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: get taught. But if now he's looking at we're the

1020
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 2: big dogs, we're the one seed, We're the ones who

1021
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 2: are gonna have to have teams come through here, is

1022
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: he coaching against the ghosts of that game because they

1023
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: had it, they had that first trip to the Super Bowl.

1024
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: It was there for the taking and they did not

1025
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 2: take it. And so what that leads to this year

1026
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: is like the opposite of a Super Bowl hangover. It's

1027
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 2: a complete Super Bowl obsession and you wonder where it

1028
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: goes next. Because let's also be real.

1029
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 4: Like.

1030
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: I don't need to do you need to be coaching

1031
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: that desperate through all the time. Oh you are the leader,

1032
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: now you're not the hunter anymore.

1033
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 3: Expectation for you to win.

1034
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they even have.

1035
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: Wiggle room, not a lot anymore because they lost today,

1036
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 2: but they still have the tiebreaker. They play Minnesota the

1037
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: last week of the season, and there is a scenario

1038
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 2: where home field comes down.

1039
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: To that game. I get it.

1040
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 2: But if so, then you've got that game and it's

1041
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: at your place. Your next two games are the Bears

1042
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: and the Niners. You should win those games. And I

1043
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: just I look at these things that we talk about

1044
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: each week, and I'm like, dude, are you It's like

1045
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: you're coaching with like you're trying to prove that last

1046
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: year was right, even though we all know it was wrong.

1047
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 3: It's so frustrating, it's so frustrating to watch because I'm

1048
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 3: pulling for I know how much this would mean to

1049
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 3: the city, to those guys on that team I'm pulling for.

1050
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 3: But then it's like, man, I almost don't want him

1051
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 3: to be successful because he's not learning from his mistakes.

1052
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 3: What happens if a quarterback continues to throw? What happens

1053
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 3: if your quarterback continues to be Jameis Winston? You removed

1054
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 3: from a starting quarterback unless something tragic happens, right, you

1055
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 3: become a backup. So for a coach, you become removed

1056
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 3: from the head coaching job, and you become a coordinator somewhere.

1057
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 3: Because look, let's just say Detroit gets put out of

1058
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 3: the playoffs again this year by the similar type decision?

1059
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 3: How many more? And it happens again the next year.

1060
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not fun and funny at hey, No, it's

1061
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: not cass, it's not like right, it's like broke, what

1062
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: are you doing? Right? Right? I'm with you. That's that

1063
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: was well said.

1064
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 2: Ah, it will get serious this time around if it

1065
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 2: happens again. Speaking of getting serious, it's time right now

1066
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: for one and only. Yeah, let's batten down the hatches.

1067
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: Let's go.

1068
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 6: It's getting serious right now for the Seattle Seahawks, who

1069
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 6: just called the time out.

1070
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 7: I'll set the stage.

1071
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 6: Four seconds left in the half, green Bay with a

1072
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 6: seventeen to three lead and knocking on the door. Right

1073
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 6: now with the football first and goal from what looks

1074
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 6: like the three yard line. Jordan Love's only throwing one

1075
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 6: incompletion so far today, one hundred and forty two yards

1076
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 6: through the air, a touchdown. Josh Jacob's doing a lot

1077
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 6: of heavy lifting too. He's got over one hundred dollars purpose,

1078
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 6: seventy three yards rushing, eighty I'm sorry, thirty eight yards receiving,

1079
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 6: and a rushing touchdown. Geno Smith threw an interception in

1080
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 6: the end zone the last time Seattle had the ball.

1081
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 6: Seattle right now rushing for only thirty yards total. I'll

1082
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 6: keep you updated on this if Green Bay is able

1083
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 6: to get this one in the end zone. And meanwhile,

1084
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 6: I'll go ahead and run down the scores from the

1085
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 6: late afternoon that the Broncos beat the Colts thirty one

1086
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 6: to thirteen. Jonathan Taylor let go of the ball before

1087
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 6: scoring a touchdown. I would have made the score nineteen

1088
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 6: to seven in the first half. Colts didn't score again.

1089
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 6: Bills beat the Lions forty eight to forty two. Josh

1090
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Speaker 6: Allen had four total touchdowns. Josh Ada I mean garreg

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01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 6: Goff himself had five total five passing touchdowns. The Eagles

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01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 6: beat the Steelers twenty seven to thirteen. Jalen Hurts with

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01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 6: two passing touchdowns, one to AJ Brown and DeVonta Smith.

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Speaker 1: So A J.

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Speaker 6: Brown got what he was asking for, and Jalen hurtson

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01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 6: is starting his postgame press conference, ask the media, is

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01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 6: that what you were looking for? After all the drama

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01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 6: about their passing game. Jalen Hurts added a rushing touchdown.

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Speaker 7: TJ.

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Speaker 6: Watt injured his ankle in the game. Cardinals beat the

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01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 6: Patriots thirty to seventeen. The Buccaneers beat the Chargers forty

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Speaker 6: to seventeen. Today we saw the Kansas City Chiefs beat

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01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 6: the Cleveland Browns twenty one to seven. Mahomes suffered an

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01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 6: ankle injury, which is NFL Network says is Day Today.

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01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 6: Andy Reid says though Mahomes could have gone back out

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01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 6: and played if needed in the game. Bengals beat the

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01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 6: Titans thirty seven to twenty seven. Commanders hold on to

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01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 6: beat the Saints twenty to nineteen. Saints had a two

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01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 6: point conversion attempt to potentially win the game backup quarterback

1110
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 6: Spencer Rattler, who was not successful. Ravens beat the Giants

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01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 6: thirty five to fourteen. Lamar Jackson at five touchdown passes.

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Speaker 6: Mark Andrews is now the raven with the most touchdowns

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01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 6: in franchise history. EU surpasses Jamal Lewis. Cowboys over Panthers

1114
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 6: thirty to fourteen, Jets over Jaguars thirty two to twenty five.

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01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 6: Devonte Adams was two yards short of two hundred receiving

1116
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 6: yards all in the second half. He's got two touchdowns

1117
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 6: in that game as well. Texan dallascore the Dolphins twenty

1118
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 6: to twelve. And on the college side of things, with

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01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 6: Ohio State likely calling, Dame and head coach Marcus Freeman

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01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 6: have agreed to a long term contract extension that will

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Speaker 6: make him one of the highest paid coaches in college football.

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01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 6: As Pernacole Auerback of NBC Sports, the Carlson kicks a

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01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 6: field goal for the Green Bay Packers puts it in

1124
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 6: there twenty to three, the score going into the half

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01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 6: on Sunday Night Football, green Bay with the lead, Mark

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01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 6: Ephram back to you guys.

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01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Martin, appreciate you, Ephraim. I don't know if you

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01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 2: heard me clapping right there?

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01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: Did you hear me? Clapp And I bet you.

1130
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 2: Know what I'm applauding because I know you're going to

1131
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: agree with me as I'm sitting there watching Jordan Love

1132
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 2: lineup and Martin.

1133
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: Did a good job of setting it up.

1134
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 2: Four seconds to go, You're at the three yard line

1135
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 2: up seventeen to three, and I'm sitting there going, I know,

1136
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 2: Matt lafleurur better than that. Don't you jump? Seahawks. Don't

1137
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 2: jump because that's a field goal.

1138
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: Yep, that's not a goal for it spot And I

1139
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: know fans hate it, and if you hate it, you

1140
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: play too much Madden period.

1141
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 2: I want to give you an example of when this

1142
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 2: has come back to really bite a coach and a team.

1143
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: When you're up by a lot and you're heading into

1144
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 2: halftime and you're like, hey, let's see if we can

1145
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: put these suckers away because you're like, man, we're moving

1146
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 2: the ball up and down the field. You get cocky

1147
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 2: and you think we can really do this. I would

1148
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 2: argue Joe Burrow would never.

1149
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: Have been to the Super Bowl and Matt Stafford probably

1150
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't have a ring if Andy Reid in that exact

1151
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: same situation four years ago hadn't done what he did.

1152
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: He went for a touchdown, he got nothing. The Bengals

1153
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 2: came back and won the football game. When you can

1154
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: get a three score lead in the NFL, you take

1155
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 2: that and you cherish that, and you go sit down

1156
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: and have a drink.

1157
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 3: I could do you one better, go one better. NFC

1158
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 3: Championship game, Atlanta versus the Vikings.

1159
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Speaker 1: What do you know about that game?

1160
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 3: Going into halftime? I guess it was about I don't know.

1161
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe less than a minute left, minute

1162
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 3: maybe left, they were up. I believe the score. I

1163
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 3: believe the score was seventeen to three.

1164
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the same score we got right.

1165
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 3: Here, seventeen to three. They chose it was under a minute, right,

1166
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 3: it was maybe forty seconds left. They chose to try

1167
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 3: to put us away. They chose to try to put

1168
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 3: us away and went and dropped back for it all.

1169
01:08:55,680 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 3: Chuck Smith striped, sacked Randall Cunningham. We got the ball,

1170
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 3: we went in and scored, scored. Halftime I believe was

1171
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 3: fourteen or thirteen to seventeen or ten to seven, whatever

1172
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 3: it was. I can't remember what the score was, but

1173
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 3: way it literally changed everything, yep, to the point of, oh,

1174
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 3: we got them and we end up going to the

1175
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. One player, That one play at the end

1176
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 3: of the half changed and shifted all of the momentum.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the second quarter box score of this

1178
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 2: game right now. The Vikings go up with a field

1179
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 2: goal twenty to seven, with twelve fifteen or I guess

1180
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: twelve to fifteen into the second quarter. Yeah, and then

1181
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 2: there must have gotten the ball again. They must have

1182
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: gotten the ball again and done what you just described.

1183
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: But then you guys went down the other way and

1184
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: Terrence Mathis got a touchdown catch right before halftime and

1185
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: made it a six point game.

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01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 3: That's it changed everything, changed everything. The dogs agree, but

1187
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 3: my dog heard.

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01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: Wait an underdog won that game. But the.

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01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 3: Sentiment is those type of decisions will will come back

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01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 3: and hunt you, and Dan Campbell hasn't learned that yet.

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01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 3: You can do that and get away with that in

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01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 3: the middle of November, in September and October, it's fine,

1193
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 3: But when the rubber meets the road in December, going

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01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 3: into January, the playoffs. If you don't evolve as a coach,

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01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 3: then you're going to get what you get. And I

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01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 3: was hoping last year that really dawned and resonated on

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01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell, and I don't think it has. So I

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Speaker 3: don't trust them.

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Speaker 1: I get it. I totally get it. I totally get it.

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Speaker 1: It's just too brazen, it's too so risky.

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Speaker 3: So I offered this to you. I'll take the field.

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01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 3: You can take Detroit to represent the NFC in the

1203
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. You're saying I'll take the field.

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01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: Let me.

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01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: I'd like to hold off until I see who gets

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01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: the one seed, but I will take that under advisement.

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Speaker 2: I also think we're not done yet with this conversation

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01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 2: about going for two and going forward on fourth in

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01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 2: certain situations. There's another game that I saw that had

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01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 2: a controversial ending today that I would love to address.

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Speaker 2: Let's do that coming up next Tyreck dot Com Studios

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Speaker 2: with e from Salama, Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio. I'll

1213
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 2: say it's only one lock in sports. It's only one

1214
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: lock in sports, and it's the Christmas in Hollis.

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01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: Is going to make this show for the next two

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Speaker 1: weeks at least. That's it. So we're in the Tyereck

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Speaker 1: dot com studios and this is a little reindeer next

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01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 1: to Ephram slam here, Mark Willard, glad you're with us?

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Speaker 2: Hey, can I throw this one at you? You know

1220
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 2: how whenever a team goes forward on fourth down or

1221
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: goes for two points, the players will come to the

1222
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 2: especially when it doesn't work, the players will do the

1223
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 2: postgame interviews and they'll be like, we really appreciate the

1224
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 2: coach has that kind of faith in us to go

1225
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 2: for it. And Dan Campbell, who we've been talking about,

1226
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: is the poster checkiled for this kind of discussion.

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Speaker 1: I believe in our guys. I want to show them

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Speaker 1: that I believe in our guys.

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Speaker 2: You know what's weird e from sometimes And I thought

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01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: an example of it today in the Saints Commander's game,

1231
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 2: which like put aside the controversy of the officials admitting

1232
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 2: that they messed up the clock and the game probably

1233
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 2: should have already been over, but the Saints were able

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01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: to basically have a little extra time and they scored

1235
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: a touchdown while down twenty to thirteen with just next

1236
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 2: to nothing left on the clock, and I'm sure that

1237
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 2: gamblers are furious about it. But when it's twenty to

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01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: nineteen and you're right there at the end of the

1239
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 2: game and then you go for two and you don't

1240
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: get it and you lose, I don't take that as

1241
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 2: showing faith in your team. I take it as the opposite.

1242
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: It's completely the opposite. I take the Saints going for

1243
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 2: two as two things.

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01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: One A, we're out of it, so who cares. And

1245
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 1: two here in our home building, I don't like our

1246
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: chances to win in overtime, so we got to stop this.

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01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 1: All fanks coach for having faith. No, no, you're going

1248
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 1: for two because he doesn't have any faith in you.

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01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 3: I want my coach if you left it up. There's

1250
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 3: the reason why coaches are players aren't coaches, because we

1251
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,879
Speaker 3: only see things linear.

1252
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 1: Right.

1253
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 3: If I'm an offensive player, I want to go for it.

1254
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 3: I want more possessions. I want more from a defensive player.

1255
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 3: I want this, I want to blitz more. I want

1256
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 3: to go a mandament like that's what we do as layers.

1257
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 3: It is up to the coach to actually lend guidance

1258
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 3: in situations. Players will always say, yeah, I wanted to

1259
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 3: go for it. I wanted to go for the win,

1260
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 3: or I wanted to do this. I want to do

1261
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 3: that because we don't have all of the information, right,

1262
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 3: we don't know, you know, we haven't been tracking offensively,

1263
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 3: what the defensive side of the ball has been struggling with,

1264
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 3: or what they've been doing. Like, we don't have the

1265
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 3: information the coach does. So it's like being in a

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01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 3: relationship and you're only taking one partner's word over the

1267
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 3: other without knowing having all the information. It's like your

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01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 3: wife is mad at you because she told me she's

1269
01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 3: mad at you because you come home late every night

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01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 3: and that's got to stop, right, shame on you. And

1271
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 3: he's like, oh, she didn't tell you. I got moved

1272
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 3: to the graveyard shift and I worked till six am

1273
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 3: in the morning so we can live. Oh oh well

1274
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 3: that's different. Well yeah, it's different now you have all

1275
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 3: the information, so I'm not going to players will always

1276
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:35,759
Speaker 3: almost always get it wrong when it comes to what's best.

1277
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 3: You wouldn't. You don't mean to tell me every quarterback

1278
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 3: wants to have four downs to get ten yards. Of course, right,

1279
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 3: as an offensive lineman, I want to run the ball

1280
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 3: every single time, third and fifteen run.

1281
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Speaker 1: The ball, Yeah, coach, we could do.

1282
01:16:55,840 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 3: And what if the coach was like okay, right, okay, well.

1283
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: And and you're talking about information. I'll buy what you're saying.

1284
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 2: But then there's sort of another side to it too,

1285
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 2: which I think is like what you're saying is valid,

1286
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 2: but also always.

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Speaker 1: Look at professional athletes as you guys are professional odds breakers,

1288
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: not not odds makers. You're odds breakers. I don't need

1289
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: to tell you. Do you know what the chances are

1290
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: of making the NFL zero?

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01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 2: You're zero, You're all lottery winners. The difference is is

1292
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 2: you didn't buy a ticket. You worked your butt off.

1293
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 2: You had amazing gifts, but then you did something with them,

1294
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 2: and you pushed and you clawed, and all the people

1295
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 2: in life.

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01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 1: Who told you you can't do it.

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01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 2: And you did everyone almost everyone, and and you did.

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01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 2: And so when someone puts that in front of.

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Speaker 1: You, look, I know it's just two yards, but the percentages, say,

1300
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: and you by nature are like bleep, the percentages.

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Speaker 3: I've beat the odds before. I'm right, you're not, You're

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Speaker 3: going to lose.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's such a I think it's such

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01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: a myth. Oh I showed faith in my guys. No

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01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: you didn't, No, you didn't. You told them that if

1306
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,679
Speaker 1: the game keeps going, they're gonna get their butts kicked.

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01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: That's what you told them.

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't make sense to me to put your

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01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 3: team in harm's way, even when you succeed at it.

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01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 3: That seems crazy and negligent to me. It really does.

1311
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 3: It's a recipe for disaster.

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01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: Again again.

1313
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's fantasy playoff season. There's one team that

1314
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 2: I saw do something today that has people absolutely going gray,

1315
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 2: and I want to talk about it a little bit,

1316
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 2: and we'll do that coming up next. We tend to

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01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 2: spend so much of our time talking about the teams

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01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 2: that are high in the standings. Why don't we take

1319
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 2: a minute to acknowledge the other teams the anatomy of

1320
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 2: a team that is out of it. As Christmas approaches,

1321
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Speaker 2: I got some stuff I want to throw at you

1322
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Speaker 2: and see what you what you think. We're broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: Tyrec dot com No way tire or buying should be. So,

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01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: for example, what if for a minute we take a

1328
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 2: look at you know, the Jets and the Patriots, and

1329
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 2: the Browns and the Jags and the Titans, the Raiders,

1330
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 2: the New York Giants, keep that one in my New

1331
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 2: York Giants, the Bears, the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: That's the list of teams.

1333
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 3: Who are those people who talk about do you speak of?

1334
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 1: They have been eliminated exactly, they have been eliminated.

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01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 2: And therefore I'm curious, and I will admit it is

1336
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: for very selfish reasons that I'm asking, But I want

1337
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 2: to know about the way a team goes about its

1338
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 2: business playing in football games, the physical challenge and all

1339
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 2: of that, knowing that they're already out of it, and

1340
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: how they go about deploying their players. In other words,

1341
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 2: what information are they trying to gather? How are they

1342
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 2: building throughout the end of the year so that it

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01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 2: leads into next year. Here's why I'm asking from as

1344
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, it's fantasy football playoff season. I happen to

1345
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 2: be very proud of myself in the nineteenth round. I

1346
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 2: have I have one league that starts a lot of

1347
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 2: players two quarters.

1348
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we start two quarterbacks and three receivers and

1349
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: there's two flexs. Just that it's a right, it's a

1350
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: very very deep, large league.

1351
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 3: Too much, but I don't know what's going on here.

1352
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 3: It's just too much.

1353
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: With the last pick in the draft, which is the

1354
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: time where you're you're you're ruffling through papers, going yeah,

1355
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: fantasy right, right, I've not heard of these.

1356
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,719
Speaker 2: People, but somebody at a camp report said they look interesting.

1357
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 2: So let's grab them and see what happens.

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01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 9: So at the nineteenth pick in the draft this year

1359
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 9: or nineteenth round, my nineteenth pick, I grabbed a young

1360
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 9: man off of the New York Giants roster who goes

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Speaker 9: by the name of Tyrone Tracy Junior. And I was

1362
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 9: thrilled about nine weeks into the season when it became

1363
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 9: evident that the Giants have a player.

1364
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 1: They got a kid who could do some things.

1365
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 2: That a little bit of fumblelitis there a few weeks ago,

1366
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,560
Speaker 2: but he can do some things to the tune of

1367
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 2: four point seven yards per carry this year, okay also

1368
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 2: shows the ability of potentially being a three down back.

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01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 2: Twenty nine catches this year on forty targets for over

1370
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 2: a couple hundred yards, good young player. Now twice the

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Speaker 2: New York Giants, who are very smart at the running

1372
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 2: back position, as we know because they're the ones who

1373
01:22:53,800 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 2: are like, we could have Saquon for twelve, or we can.

1374
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 1: Just do Devin Singletary for nine. Let's do Devin Singletary.

1375
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: So that same team who's out of it is twice

1376
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: at the one yard line today, and both times they

1377
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: think to themselves, you know what, it's Devin's Singletary time.

1378
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: Let's do this now. Tyrone is bigger, he's better, and

1379
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 1: I'd argue he's your future. So forget my stupid selfish

1380
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: reasons for asking. But from why, why, Like are they

1381
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 1: trying to prove something to somebody? Why would you not

1382
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: at this stage solely be focused on building your future players.

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01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 3: Well, I mean the difference when you're talking about those

1384
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 3: teams and this team in particular, is they haven't made

1385
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 3: sound decisions in about three years, So asking someone why

1386
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:20,520
Speaker 3: someone is doing something and for all intent's purposes ridiculous.

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01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:29,759
Speaker 3: That's the crazy part. Yeah, The why is why wouldn't

1388
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 3: they Ooh is that an achilles injury by gino? Oh? No, oh,

1389
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 3: this didn't look good he was trying to get his

1390
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 3: legs from under the defensive player and he got that.

1391
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 1: A oh yeah, that that.

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01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying whether it's the Achilles thing

1393
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 2: or not, but that did not look good.

1394
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,560
Speaker 10: No, you always want you always want that leg to

1395
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 10: clear out. Gotta get that thing out of there, so

1396
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 10: you got it to clear out? He walk, Okay, Okay, chin,

1397
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 10: strap back on.

1398
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 3: You know, Sam, Sam Howell coming in for a play,

1399
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,520
Speaker 3: but trying to figure out why the Giants are continuing

1400
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:23,599
Speaker 3: to be a dumpster fire is I mean, man, why

1401
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 3: is there hate in the world? I don't know, right like,

1402
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:32,759
Speaker 3: I don't I don't have the answer for that. Because

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01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 3: every decision they've made, as we watched, you know, air

1404
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 3: on off season Hard Knocks. I mean, it's just another

1405
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 3: way to scratch your head because they're making decisions based

1406
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 3: on we don't know what that is, and it doesn't

1407
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 3: make sense to us. I'm sure it doesn't make sense

1408
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 3: to a bunch of the people in the locker room.

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01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 3: So at this point it's a situation where yeah, okay,

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01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 3: they're obviously using some metric to to figure something out

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01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 3: that's only known to them. As Sam Howell throws the

1412
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 3: ball into the ground on the third and twelve.

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01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: Did the ground catch it?

1414
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 3: No, they missed it, okay, because it literally bounced up

1415
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 3: off the ground.

1416
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to check.

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01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 2: I'm flipping back and forth between a lot of games here,

1418
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 2: and I didn't happen to catch that one.

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01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 3: So what you flipping through? We got some NBA on

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01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I have a setup.

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01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: You have a setup, and and by the way, I

1422
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: can do that setup.

1423
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 2: But the last time I did it, you guys started

1424
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 2: asking me questions about like who was cooking what and everything.

1425
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go up into the kitchen again.

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01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 3: All you have to do is not have the cooking

1427
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 3: during for three hours. I mean, you had a short

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01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 3: order show, you had a short order chef in there.

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01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 1: Just show the show is on for five days. Specific

1430
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: time was.

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01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 3: Music with pants does not.

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01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: Well, she's fifteen, that's so his yes, and her assistant

1433
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: was my ten year old son. They're not going to

1434
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: do it quietly if they don't do anything quietly. By

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01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: the way, their dad's not very quiet either.

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01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 3: So anyway, you got to get some rubber pots and pans.

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01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 5: Man man man.

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01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 1: So stupid reason for me asking. But the larger question

1439
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 1: is between pride, tanking, respect for your opponent, and building

1440
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: for the future. What is the right thing to do

1441
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: on the way out the door for these teams that aren't.

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01:27:50,240 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 3: Going anywhere, h I mean, decisions have to be made

1443
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 3: on rosters, coaching, decisions have to be made. You know,

1444
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 3: most of the guys are going to be on these teams.

1445
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 3: It's your job, though. You want to see who's showing

1446
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 3: up to do their job. Yep, that's all it is, right,

1447
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 3: This is not you know, we're not going to a

1448
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 3: bowl game this year, and no, this is your job.

1449
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 3: You don't have another job to go to after this,

1450
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 3: whether you do a podcast from your house or not,

1451
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 3: this is your job. So whether you're winning and losing,

1452
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 3: your job still must be done to the highest level.

1453
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 3: That's what we're looking at. That's what we're trying to

1454
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 3: figure out. That's the sole purpose of this is to

1455
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 3: figure out who's still showing up and going to work.

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01:28:53,720 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean so far, I'm still mad. I mean,

1457
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 1: so there's no good reason why your best players, especially

1458
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 1: if they're rookies, should not be getting more reps and

1459
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: more everything.

1460
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 3: No, you should you go to see what you guys,

1461
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 3: see what you drafted, See what you got. Bring the

1462
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 3: guys up from practice squad, give them the opportunity. See

1463
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 3: you know, see if you can find it, you know,

1464
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 3: a diamond.

1465
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 1: In the rough. I mean they did.

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01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 3: They did.

1467
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 1: The kid looks good, he does really good.

1468
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 3: Looks good.

1469
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 1: No.

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01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 2: No, but like if you if you had said, we're

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01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:41,600
Speaker 2: getting rid of Saquon because we're doing this as we rebuild,

1472
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 2: that's a I don't think it's a great answer, but

1473
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 2: it's an acceptable one, a more acceptable one than what

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01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 2: they did do, which was to be like, yeah, and

1475
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 2: actually we think we can get similar production for less

1476
01:29:56,040 --> 01:30:01,719
Speaker 2: money out of Tevin Singletary and then watch your division

1477
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 2: FO grab Saquon Barkley and turn them into an m

1478
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 2: VP candidate.

1479
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: So I don't get it.

1480
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 3: That's the glow up, right, that's you break up with

1481
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 3: your significant other and then you know, oh, yeah, she

1482
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 3: now sitting courtside at NBA games.

1483
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:26,520
Speaker 1: You like, right, what exactly?

1484
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 3: Her instagram is full of uh Loom vacations and Ebitha

1485
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 3: and Paris Eiffel Tower love shots, and you still working

1486
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 3: at FedEx.

1487
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,839
Speaker 1: You're still cooking with loud pans. Exactly.

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01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 3: That's what that's what happened to them, right, that's the

1489
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 3: New York Giants are watching. Uh, there's significant other pretty

1490
01:30:56,479 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 3: much just flourish much and she's mosting cryptic things. He's

1491
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 3: posting cryptic things under that, like it's amazing what happens

1492
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 3: when a butterfly is allowed to fly free? Like it's

1493
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 3: like wait, what.

1494
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 1: Wait? What what is That's exactly right, It's exactly right.

1495
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 3: Okay, it's funny how the sun shines. It's like, wait,

1496
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 3: what is happening here right now?

1497
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 1: What a bird is alived? It's rains, yes, all right.

1498
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 2: So last night the heisman was handed out and afterwards

1499
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 2: the comments were made and I'm like, oh, you don't

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01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 2: usually hear that, and I'd love to know what you

1501
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,680
Speaker 2: think about it. So we'll talk about that coming up

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01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:47,720
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1514
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 2: Salam So different sports have different cultures, and there's nothing

1515
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 2: wrong with that. If you block a shot in the NBA,

1516
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 2: may he rest in peace to Kimmy Matumbo can can

1517
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 2: grab his long finger and wag it right in your face,

1518
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 2: and that's okay. But in baseball, if you hit a

1519
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 2: home run and you even enjoy it for a second,

1520
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 2: you're penalized. You're penalized with a ninety nine mile an

1521
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 2: hour fast bought your head the next time you come up.

1522
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 1: So I get it.

1523
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 2: In golf, for you're out there practically rooting for your opponent,

1524
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,679
Speaker 2: shaking their hand, patting them on the back. Nice putt,

1525
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 2: let's go to the next hole. This one felt different

1526
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 2: to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but I know a lot

1527
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 2: of people thought Ashton Gent should have won the Heisman

1528
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 2: Trophy over Travis Hunter last night. And I don't really

1529
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 2: want to get into all of that debate because I

1530
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 2: think that it's hard not to just sort of walk

1531
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 2: away going. I can understand both arguments. Both pretty amazing

1532
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 2: transformational players gent afterwards is like.

1533
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: I should have won.

1534
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 2: And it's one thing to say that if you're like,

1535
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 2: you just lost a football game. For me, there's something

1536
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 2: I can't even put my finger on it. But it's

1537
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 2: a little different.

1538
01:33:56,720 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 1: When you're saying it about an award, like all of

1539
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:06,719
Speaker 1: you people and your opinions out there, that Travis Hunter

1540
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:11,600
Speaker 1: was worthy of the award, You're wrong. It should have

1541
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 1: been me. I don't know, man, how does that grab you?

1542
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 3: Well, look, you know, kudos to somebody having confidence in

1543
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 3: their abilities and what they've done. But that's the best

1544
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 3: player in college football with Travis Hunter. So did did Gentry?

1545
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 3: Did he? Did he? Gent excuse me? He did he

1546
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 3: break a record?

1547
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 1: Did he break a record? Not that I know of. Okay,

1548
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: now he may, he may because he's got another game.

1549
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that has nothing to do with right now.

1550
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 2: But yes, no, he is just shy of twenty five

1551
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 2: hundred rushing yards. The record is twenty six twenty eight

1552
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 2: and that's held by Barry Sanders, Heisman Trophy winner. Ye,

1553
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 2: he needs one hundred and thirty two yards to break that.

1554
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 3: Now he may do that, and he may do that,

1555
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,679
Speaker 3: But when someone is doing something, even if you're having

1556
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 3: a spectacular year. When someone is doing something no one

1557
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:23,719
Speaker 3: else on the planet is doing at the level they're

1558
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 3: doing it, how could you possibly think anything other than

1559
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 3: what happened?

1560
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 2: Well, I guess the only way I can answer that

1561
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 2: is he's him. In other words, like he's not he's

1562
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 2: not an objective observer. But even he's talking about himself.

1563
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:51,599
Speaker 3: But even then, as a player game recognized game, you've

1564
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 3: heard that term before. Rightly, even as a player, if

1565
01:35:57,200 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 3: he were to say, Man, I'm what I'm doing. But

1566
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 3: what if I had to play linebacker as well? Yeah,

1567
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 3: so the thirty two, the thirty three plays that I

1568
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 3: play every game, what if I had to play another

1569
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:23,640
Speaker 3: thirty forty plays in a game? Could I still be

1570
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 3: the same player I am with the answers, No, the

1571
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 3: answer is no, because no one has done that except

1572
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 3: for one person, and that just happens to be. Not

1573
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 3: only is he one of the top receivers in all

1574
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 3: of football in college but he's also one of the

1575
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:47,640
Speaker 3: top cornerbacks in all of football in college football, and

1576
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 3: so EAP game recognize game. As great as GENTI has been,

1577
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 3: he can look and be like, oh, I get it.

1578
01:36:57,320 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 3: That's the difference. Oh, I get it. That makes sense

1579
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 3: to me. Now if you give it to a quarterback

1580
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 3: who is you know this and that, and you know

1581
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 3: the numbers weren't as better than the quarterback last year. Like, Okay,

1582
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 3: you can make an argument. But when someone you're competing

1583
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 3: against is doing something that you yourself couldn't do, or

1584
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 3: no one else, no other contemporaries is doing, then you

1585
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 3: get it. Game must recognize.

1586
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 1: Game totally fair. That's it.

1587
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 3: That's the bottom line. You can say whatever you want

1588
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 3: about how you feel about yourself, right, but if I

1589
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 3: look across and be like, man, I get it, this

1590
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 3: dude is not This man won eight awards. You won

1591
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 3: eight awards because no one has seen a player like this.

1592
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. When shoe Hay was hitting

1593
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 3: and pitching at the level he was, did he win MVP?

1594
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 1: Indeed, do you know why that no one ever seen

1595
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 1: it before?

1596
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 3: When he went when he joined the fifty to fifty

1597
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:07,679
Speaker 3: club this year, did he win MVP?

1598
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 1: There you have it? Do you know why could no

1599
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: one ever seen it?

1600
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:14,639
Speaker 3: Well? What are we talking about?

1601
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 1: Well? Can I add one other thing? That?

1602
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 2: And what you're saying is a little more straightforward. I

1603
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 2: just want to add this really quick to me. It's

1604
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 2: really hard to go. I should have won, and I'm

1605
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,600
Speaker 2: sitting here going I don't even know the rules of

1606
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:34,600
Speaker 2: the game you're playing. So follow me when I'm saying this.

1607
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about college football. I'm talking about voting

1608
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:43,640
Speaker 2: for the Heisman. You have hundreds of people, hundreds of

1609
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 2: people who come together, and all of them are making

1610
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 2: up their own rules. They're all just like, well, here's

1611
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 2: what I do.

1612
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 1: Ask Steve Hartman, who he's built an entire life around

1613
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: this vote that vote. Boy, I swear to God, you

1614
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,280
Speaker 1: can take his clothes, you can take his house, you

1615
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 1: can take his car, and his family he do. Just

1616
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 1: don't take his vote.

1617
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 3: Don't take vote. And he did leading up to the vote.

1618
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 3: Is spectacular for him.

1619
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he'll.

1620
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 3: Out.

1621
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 7: I bring my kids.

1622
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 1: I used to bring my kids to the studio and

1623
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:26,759
Speaker 1: I go. I want to teach you kids about focus.

1624
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 1: I want you to watch this man. This is a

1625
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:32,639
Speaker 1: picture of focus. There's absolutely nothing else on his mind.

1626
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: He wakes up. I don't know if he eats. I

1627
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:37,679
Speaker 1: actually can't say that he wakes up because I don't

1628
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:44,600
Speaker 1: know if he sleeps. He is focused on the vote. Right, So,

1629
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 1: but he's got his.

1630
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:52,120
Speaker 2: List of what matters, and then the next voter has

1631
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 2: his or her list, And so I'm like, you can't,

1632
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:56,120
Speaker 2: should have, could have?

1633
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 1: Woulda I don't even know what we're doing here. No, man,

1634
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 1: you it's it's there's no scoreboard. Y'all are just making

1635
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 1: it up based on what matters to you.

1636
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if I did have a vote, I would

1637
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 3: it would one go to Travis Hunter. Travis, I've never

1638
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 3: seen anybody do this and play at that level. I've

1639
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 3: never seen that before ever, Not like this, Not like this.

1640
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 3: He doesn't have certain packages on offense or he's not

1641
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:31,639
Speaker 3: a you know packages on defense. It's just okay, you've

1642
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:35,639
Speaker 3: just stopped them. They punt, you get some water. You're

1643
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 3: on offense. Now, over one hundred plus plays a game

1644
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 3: for twelve games. Unless gent rushed for three thousand yards, right,

1645
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 3: or he brought Barry Sanders record prior, then no, man, no, Now,

1646
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 3: if he had twenty seven rush twenty seven hundred rushing yards,

1647
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 3: I mean that is crazy talk. But because he didn't,

1648
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:21,639
Speaker 3: all right, let's go, let's keep you pushing.

1649
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm not only not with I'm with you

1650
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 1: on that it's.

1651
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 3: Not the best running back, it's the best player. It's

1652
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 3: not his player.

1653
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 2: Well, but and then again, it's whoever. It's whoever you want.

1654
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 2: Like you would have voted for Travis Hunter. I'm a weirdo.

1655
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 2: I'd have voted for Martin Weiss. It's just the way

1656
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:40,680
Speaker 2: I am.

1657
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 3: It's amazing the way I am.

1658
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 1: You know, Sue me.

1659
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 6: I mean, that was the true snub for being honest, right,

1660
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 6: I didn't receive a single first place vote vote that

1661
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 6: Steve Hartman. And you know I said, with great power, culls,

1662
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 6: great responsibility. You see what he did for his The

1663
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 6: Green Bay Packers have a twenty three to six lead

1664
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 6: over the Seattle Seahawks. Seattle losing the game and potentially

1665
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 6: losing their quarterback. Geno Smith knocked out of this game.

1666
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 6: NBC called it a knee injury. He's questionable to return.

1667
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 6: But the way that Melissa Stark was talking about it,

1668
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:17,640
Speaker 6: Tyler Lockett followed him into the tent and followed him

1669
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 6: into the locker room, and Gino's walking around does not

1670
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:20,559
Speaker 6: look good.

1671
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 7: Doesn't look like he'll be back.

1672
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 6: We've seen Sam Howell out here and again twenty twenty

1673
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 6: three to six the score. Josh Jacobs with the rushing

1674
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 6: touchdown seventy one yards on the ground, Jordan Loves only

1675
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 6: throwing two incomplete passes seventeen for nineteen one hundred and

1676
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 6: thirty one hundred and eighty three yards.

1677
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:37,759
Speaker 3: And a touchdown.

1678
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 6: Earlier today, we saw the Buccaneers beat the Chargers forty

1679
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 6: to seven. The Cardinals beat the Patriots thirty to seven.

1680
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,760
Speaker 6: Eagles beat the Steelers twenty seven to thirteen. Jalen Hurts

1681
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 6: had three total touchdowns, two of them passes one to

1682
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 6: AJ Brown, the other Demonta Smith. Bill's beat the Lions

1683
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 6: forty eight to forty two. Josh Allen four total touchdowns.

1684
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 6: Gyed Golf threw five touchdowns himself, so that means the

1685
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 6: Lions lost the game where Jared Goff threw five touchdowns.

1686
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 6: They won the game earlier this year against Houston, when

1687
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:09,679
Speaker 6: Jared Goff threw five interceptions. Broncos beat the Colts thirty

1688
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 6: one to thirteen. Jonathan Taylor had a go ahead touchdown

1689
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:14,160
Speaker 6: would have made the score in nineteen to seven in

1690
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 6: the first half, he fumbled. The ball went out of

1691
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 6: the back of the end zone because he dropped it

1692
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 6: before he crossed the plane. Indianapolis did not score again.

1693
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 6: Texans outscored the Dolphins twenty to twelve.

1694
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 1: C J.

1695
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 6: Stroud two touchdowns to Nico Collins. Jalen Waddell was lost

1696
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:32,600
Speaker 6: to this game to injury. Grant Dupos was injured. He

1697
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 6: had a serious head injury. Just saw on news that

1698
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 6: he has been evaluated at the hospital and he is

1699
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 6: not immediately traveling back with the team from Houston and

1700
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 6: with the he had obviously Grant dubos for the Dolphins,

1701
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 6: hoping everything's okay with him.

1702
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 7: The Jets hold on to beat the Jaguars thirty two

1703
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 7: to twenty five.

1704
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 6: Devonte Adams had one hundred and ninety eight yards and

1705
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:58,679
Speaker 6: two catches, two touchdown catches, all in the second half.

1706
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:01,679
Speaker 6: He has one hundred and one career touchdowns. Brian Thomas

1707
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 6: Junior the bright spot for Jacksonville ten catcher one hundred

1708
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:05,759
Speaker 6: five yards two tds.

1709
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 3: Cooper Rush had.

1710
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 6: Three touchdowns, one of them to See Lamb as the

1711
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 6: Cowboys outscored the Panthers thirty to fourteen. Bryce Young had

1712
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 6: n't playing better football. He had two interceptions today and

1713
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 6: for the second straight week over at MetLife Stadium. A

1714
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 6: message flu said mister Morrow enough, we won't stop until

1715
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 6: you fire everyone. Lamar Jackson, Lamar Jackson did his best

1716
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 6: part to make it happen for him. Through five touchdown passes,

1717
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 6: he threw more touchdown passes than he had incompletions on

1718
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:37,599
Speaker 6: the day. He had twenty one for twenty five, two

1719
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 6: ninety five touchdowns. Like I said, Tommy Devido got a

1720
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 6: concussion was ruled out for the second half, so Drew

1721
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 6: Locke finished that game up thirty five to fourteen. I'm sorry,

1722
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 6: so Tim Boyle finished that game up for the Giants

1723
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 6: thirty five to fourteen. The score Commanders hold on and

1724
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 6: advanced the nine to five after beating the Saints twenty

1725
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 6: to nineteen. Backup quarterbacks special the Ratler had a two

1726
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 6: point conversion attempt for the win, did not end up

1727
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 6: converting there. Jayden Daniels two twenty six through the air

1728
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 6: and two touchdowns, both to scary Terry McLaurin bangles stopped

1729
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 6: the Titans thirty seven to twenty seven. Joe Burrow had

1730
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 6: three touchdowns two interceptions. One of them was Chase Brown,

1731
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 6: who had ninety seven yards on the ground sixteen receiving.

1732
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 6: Will Levis was benched after a pick six. He had

1733
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 6: three interceptions on the day. Mason Rudolph took over in

1734
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 6: the second half. Patrick Mahomes suffered an ankle injury as

1735
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 6: the Chiefs beat the Browns twenty one to seven. Andy

1736
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 6: Reid said in his postgame press conference that Mahomes could.

1737
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 7: Have went back in the game if needed. NFL Network

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01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 7: is reporting.

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01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 1: At day to day.

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01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 6: We'll have more info on that tomorrow, I'm sure. As

1741
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:41,880
Speaker 6: Seattle throws an incompletion out of the back of their

1742
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:44,519
Speaker 6: own end zone, Sam Howell again a quarterback thirteen oh

1743
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 6: seven in the fourth year, as Seattle's about to punt

1744
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:49,960
Speaker 6: it back to Green Bay twenty three to six, the

1745
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 6: score packers in the league. Notre Dame and head coach

1746
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:55,559
Speaker 6: Marcus Freeman have agreed to a long term contract extension

1747
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 6: that will make him one of the highest paid coaches

1748
01:45:57,680 --> 01:45:58,679
Speaker 6: in college football.

1749
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 7: That is per Sports, Ephram and Mark.

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01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, Okay, thank you Martin, great stuff tonight.

1751
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:08,440
Speaker 2: We appreciate you. We're in the Tireraq dot Com studios.

1752
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 2: Twenty two of twenty seven, two hundred and eighty eight

1753
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 2: yards passing, four touchdown throws in the game and a

1754
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 2: rushing attack behind him that averaged five point seven yards

1755
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 2: per carry. Ephraim, I did not see that coming against

1756
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Chargers. You and I have talked a

1757
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 2: lot about this defense in the last few weeks.

1758
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, it's been to show they.

1759
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 1: Are the best scoring defense in the NFL, and it's

1760
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 1: not close. A couple of weeks ago they were eight

1761
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 1: and four and looking like not a team that was

1762
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 1: going to threaten for the division.

1763
01:46:55,240 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, they beat the Atlanta Falcons on the road.

1764
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 2: They beat up Kirk Cousins into a bunch of interceptions

1765
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 2: and it was like, watch out. This team would be

1766
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:11,000
Speaker 2: scary to play in the playoffs. In their following game,

1767
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 2: they lost to the Chiefs because that's the NFL rule

1768
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 2: that you have to because the ball boinks in.

1769
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 1: Off of the crossbar or whatever.

1770
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 2: Yes, right, but what what was this and what does

1771
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 2: it do to the Chargers fire forty to seventeen at

1772
01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:32,679
Speaker 2: home against the Tampa Bay Box.

1773
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 3: Sometimes you run into a busaf that bussall can come

1774
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:40,679
Speaker 3: into you know, it come in the form of of anything.

1775
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 3: It just happened to be a Baker Mayfield led team,

1776
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 3: and you know, as the coach, you gotta just.

1777
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 4: You.

1778
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 3: You gotta understand this isn't the end all be all right.

1779
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 3: This is a great tool for them to recalibrate and refocus,

1780
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 3: and I'm sure Jim will do that. But it's Look

1781
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield man, when he's good, he's invest in the league.

1782
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 3: That's just.

1783
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 1: Like, I'm not gonna argue.

1784
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 3: Nobody competes like this. Look man at the quarterback man.

1785
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 3: I tell you what. Man, he reminds me of Jake

1786
01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:31,360
Speaker 3: Plumber Man. Like Jake Plumber was, he was like, I'll

1787
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 3: do anything right. I'll do anything to win, and sometimes

1788
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 3: it's ugly, and it sometimes it's what you need. I'll

1789
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 3: go anywhere and fight through anything with anybody who's with me.

1790
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 2: I'm with you. And I think that that he has

1791
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:53,560
Speaker 2: he has shown that this is not this is not

1792
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:57,320
Speaker 2: a placeholder. This is not a joke, Like I get it.

1793
01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 2: And those backs behind him, that combo of Bucky Irving

1794
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 2: and Rashad White, like this is a real deal.

1795
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 1: Now I get it.

1796
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:05,599
Speaker 2: You want to know what stands out to me though

1797
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 2: about this football game that I have all kinds of

1798
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 2: questions about Jim Harball stopped being Jim Harball, And that's

1799
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:15,559
Speaker 2: what I don't understand.

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01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 1: You led at half. Hear me again.

1801
01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 2: They lost by twenty three points, and they led at halftime. Now,

1802
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 2: that team and that coach has done things a certain

1803
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 2: way all the time, and it is always we're gonna

1804
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 2: be a physical defense. We're gonna hit you in the mouth,

1805
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 2: and we're gonna make things really hard on you. And

1806
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:46,280
Speaker 2: even when it gets boring and monotonous and three point

1807
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 2: five yards and all of that, we are going to

1808
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:52,640
Speaker 2: run the football and keep at it and keep the

1809
01:49:52,760 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 2: clock moving. This team attempted thirty four passes today and

1810
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 2: eleven rushes in a game they led it half. I

1811
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 2: didn't watch the whole game, so I'm not gonna act

1812
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:12,560
Speaker 2: like I have a full grasp on the flow of

1813
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:15,479
Speaker 2: how that all came together. But I've watched a lot

1814
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 2: of Jim Harbaugh coach games. I've never seen that. That

1815
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense to me at all. You ran

1816
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:29,639
Speaker 2: forty five plays and elected to throw on thirty four

1817
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 2: of them in a game you led it half.

1818
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't recognize that coach now.

1819
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 3: And you know, losing Dobbs and that running game made

1820
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:50,680
Speaker 3: that's a big piece to replace it is, and I

1821
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 3: did it I think a lot of their toughness and

1822
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 3: their identity was seen through him because he can't get

1823
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:00,680
Speaker 3: you the extra yard. He was a bruiser, and he

1824
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 3: was a tone setter, tempo setter, and so not having

1825
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 3: that and trying to figure out, I mean, Gus Edwards

1826
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:16,799
Speaker 3: is not that, is that right? And the rookie Vidal

1827
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:20,800
Speaker 3: is not that. So trying to figure out ways too,

1828
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:25,560
Speaker 3: you know, circumvent that and and and work around it.

1829
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 3: You put more pressure on on on Justin Herbert because

1830
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 3: you have to lean on him. But when you touch,

1831
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 3: when you take such a big part of your identity

1832
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:40,280
Speaker 3: away from you offensively or anytime during the year, it's

1833
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:43,680
Speaker 3: it's it's it's a little bit tough too to replace that.

1834
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 3: And and and I think they're trying to figure out how.

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01:51:46,439 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 1: To do that. That one cut that one cut my eye.

1836
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because there were they were, you know, a

1837
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:59,040
Speaker 3: time of possession type team. Yep, you know that's gone

1838
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 3: now and so how do you you have to figure

1839
01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 3: out a different way to do it. It's not like

1840
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 3: they have a bunch of names on the outside that

1841
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:13,599
Speaker 3: are are difference makers.

1842
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:14,240
Speaker 1: Right.

1843
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 3: You have a Lad McConkie who's a tremendous talent, right,

1844
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 3: but he's not a top receiver in terms of, oh,

1845
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:26,559
Speaker 3: that's our go to guy. We have Quentin Johnston who

1846
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 3: sometimes he'll catch it, sometimes he won't.

1847
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:32,559
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes they don't feel like it.

1848
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 3: And and and so now it's you're losing key pieces

1849
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 3: and you're trying to figure out, Okay, how do we

1850
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 3: do this? Like I said, teams who win the War

1851
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 3: of attrition, you know, find themselves in sweet spots. Now,

1852
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:53,920
Speaker 3: they still got a favorable schedule. They got the promos next,

1853
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:56,640
Speaker 3: and then they have the Raiders and are the New

1854
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,840
Speaker 3: England and then the Raiders and they're going to get

1855
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 3: there'll bes.

1856
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:06,080
Speaker 1: It feels like we know who the AFC playoff teams are.

1857
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 1: It feels that way.

1858
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 2: I know it's not done, but it feels like Denver,

1859
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 2: the Chargers, and the loser of the Pittsburgh Baltimore battle.

1860
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 1: Those are your three wild cards. That's what it feels like.

1861
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:24,680
Speaker 2: All Right, more on all of that, back with some

1862
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:27,640
Speaker 2: final thoughts on everything this evening. Glad you're with us

1863
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:31,599
Speaker 2: with e from Salam, Mark Ward, Fox Sports Radio, Tyron

1864
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 2: dot Com Studios, Mark with Ay from Salam. All Right,

1865
01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 2: this time I don't have to just make it up,

1866
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:42,400
Speaker 2: Willy nilly. It's actually written in the Bleacher Report.

1867
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:49,760
Speaker 1: You ready to hear it? Yep, it's just a proposal now. Um,

1868
01:53:52,000 --> 01:54:02,480
Speaker 1: The Warriors would receive Cam Reddish Brownie James and forward

1869
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:09,400
Speaker 1: Lebron James. Okay, the Lakers would receive and we need

1870
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:11,599
Speaker 1: to update this a little bit because this was written

1871
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 1: prior to the Warriors acquiring Dennis Shrewder for the contract

1872
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 1: of injured guard to Anthony Melton. The Lakers would receive

1873
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins Jonathan Kaminga.

1874
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 2: We got to find thirteen more million dollars because they

1875
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 2: also were going to get guard to Anthony Melton, who's hurt.

1876
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 1: It's an expiring contract. Brandon Pajemski, forward Gie Santos, a

1877
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:47,880
Speaker 1: top one protected first round pick in twenty twenty five

1878
01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 1: at a top three protected first round pick in twenty

1879
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 1: twenty seven. Are you in?

1880
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1881
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 1: You thinking about it this time? You didn't want to

1882
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 1: think about it last time.

1883
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 3: Hmmm mm hm hm, I'm in. Let's do it. Yeah,

1884
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 3: you probably should be, yeah, because I don't think Lebron,

1885
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if you If I'm in, are you

1886
01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:34,160
Speaker 3: is that what you want?

1887
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:37,760
Speaker 2: Well to me in the end, in the end of

1888
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 2: all of this, I think this is what really matters,

1889
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 2: because the Warriors are about to lose again. The Dallas Mavericks,

1890
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:50,200
Speaker 2: Clay and Luca is near fifty points. They're going off tonight.

1891
01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:53,040
Speaker 2: It's like one hundred and forty something to one hundred

1892
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:54,840
Speaker 2: and thirty something. Everybody's going all over the place.

1893
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 1: Warriors about to lose again.

1894
01:55:57,160 --> 01:56:00,840
Speaker 2: And uh they started off I think it will twelve

1895
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 2: and two, and now they're about to be fourteen and eleven.

1896
01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 2: So you do the math. They've lost eight of ten games.

1897
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 2: The question I have is, and I know you'll hate this,

1898
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 2: but is that what Stephen Draymond want.

1899
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, drey does right, would love to play with Lebron.

1900
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is this is I don't think

1901
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 2: that that's a good trade for the Warriors. But if

1902
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 2: you're hell bent on trying something that'll allow these guys

1903
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 2: to give it another Hail Mary shot here at the

1904
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 2: end of their careers, do it. Because I also don't

1905
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 2: think that anything that you're giving up there is quite

1906
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 2: frankly the end of days.

1907
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 3: When I hear trade proposed, the last thing I want

1908
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:57,600
Speaker 3: to do when it's dealing with the Lakers is make

1909
01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 3: a team, especially you know in your conference, and all

1910
01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 3: of that make a team better, give them a better

1911
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:09,720
Speaker 3: chance to win, And that trade does not give you

1912
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:13,480
Speaker 3: guys a better chance to win in my opinion.

1913
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 2: Well, I mean like you would, you would have an

1914
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:21,960
Speaker 2: amazing veteran presence at the end of games.

1915
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it right. But the problem is, Lebron

1916
01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 3: James doesn't play at that pace anymore. No, the Warriors

1917
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 3: are up and down, brother, they are going. Lebron James

1918
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:36,600
Speaker 3: doesn't play at that pace. Well either, you guys are

1919
01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:38,120
Speaker 3: going to have to slow it down.

1920
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I think that them playing together, from what

1921
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 1: my read, the only reason this keeps coming up. I

1922
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 1: think those guys were always curious about playing together, and

1923
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:51,320
Speaker 1: then the Olympics happen, right, and now I think they're

1924
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 1: obsessed with it.

1925
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that end of it's the end of game,

1926
01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 3: high screen and roll with Lebron James.

1927
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 1: And that's pretty good. That's that's pretty good.

1928
01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 3: That's that's basically what you're doing the trade for, right.

1929
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 3: You can close out games like that. Well, the problem

1930
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 3: is you can close out games got to be in

1931
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 3: games like that, well, and your season is longer than

1932
01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 3: eight games. Long's you know everybody was addicted to the Olympics.

1933
01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 3: They're over pretty quick.

1934
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:27,880
Speaker 1: You win here, two weeks that one, and you're like, look,

1935
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:31,400
Speaker 1: we want the championship. Yeah, this is different.

1936
01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 3: If you want that trade, man, I'll sign off on

1937
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 3: a good luck.

1938
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't luck.

1939
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 3: Man, you got it. I can talk about man.

1940
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:42,320
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you too.

1941
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:45,320
Speaker 3: I hope you find some spot for Brownie Man. You

1942
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 3: can have some value to you.

1943
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 1: Guys. Oh, we got a spot for him. It's a

1944
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:49,120
Speaker 1: Santa Cruz.

1945
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,800
Speaker 3: Santa Cruz, what are the vote racers?

1946
01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 1: What is the whatever? Cruise? I'll talk to you next week. Brother.

1947
01:58:58,480 --> 01:58:58,920
Speaker 1: There it is.