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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh These are some of our favorite segments

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Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment

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Speaker 1: last stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is

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Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. I got a robot call today, guys,

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Speaker 1: and I also listened to an episode of reply All

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Speaker 1: last night that was about robot calls. They're not robot calls.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's just like spam calls. Uh. So I

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about this what happened exactly that you?

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Speaker 1: You just came in like we got to talk about you,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to talk about it before. And then

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Speaker 1: I got this call, which I normally would have screened,

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Speaker 1: but I picked it up because I was like, let's see,

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Speaker 1: like maybe this will provide some additional data. You were

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Speaker 1: inspired by the podcast. Actually pick it entertained this call,

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Speaker 1: and so today I said, hey, guys, I've told you

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Speaker 1: that I've like I want to be put on a

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Speaker 1: list that like says no call or like taken off

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Speaker 1: the list or whatever. And he said, I thought, I

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Speaker 1: told you to shut your mouth, bitch, And then friends

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Speaker 1: that I did too. I like looked at it. I

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Speaker 1: started like googling because they said that said they're from

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Speaker 1: the home center or something. Yeah, the home center, And

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Speaker 1: I immediately started googling, not because I wanted to get

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Speaker 1: him in trouble, but because I wanted to like talk

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Speaker 1: to him father and be like, Yo, that is amazing,

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Speaker 1: that is so funny. Yeah, maybe you should call back

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Speaker 1: and be like I was actually being helped by someone.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you can check the loss to see who it

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Speaker 1: was that called me. Yeah, like, I'm actually interested, but

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Speaker 1: I only want to talk to that guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I get it. Man, working a call centers fucking terrible.

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Speaker 1: Like I tried it for a second. It's not good,

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Speaker 1: but it's funny that you were so sweet. Actually rund

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Speaker 1: to be nice, and he's like, I thought I told

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Speaker 1: you a bit. Yes, Oh I could use a nice,

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Speaker 1: warm glass to shut the hell up. He thought he

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Speaker 1: was gonna nag me into like, okay, now that you

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Speaker 1: showed me a spot, I am okay, fine, here's my

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Speaker 1: credit card, and I guess I could take the existing

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Speaker 1: solar panels off my house and put new ones on.

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Speaker 1: But do you guys have do you get the spam

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Speaker 1: calls that are like from the same person over and over,

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Speaker 1: the same entity. Oh yeah, I have the same Never

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Speaker 1: make it far enough to know who they are. I

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Speaker 1: just hang up immediately and block them. When I get

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Speaker 1: scam likely shows up, I'm sorry, rejected, off off the

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Speaker 1: rip right if the part they get me is when

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Speaker 1: they do it in your native area code. And then

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Speaker 1: I started thinking, oh, it's someone in the valley, all right,

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Speaker 1: let me And then somebody's like, uh, hi, are you

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Speaker 1: the homeowner? And I'm like off, I literally go fuck

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Speaker 1: off and just hang up. But I'm sure like when

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Speaker 1: you're dealing with that, you're being paid shit, and then

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Speaker 1: you're dealing with not people as polite as Jack being like,

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Speaker 1: I believe I'm on side of the list. Probably people

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Speaker 1: being like, don't call me, find you see your work

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Speaker 1: on commission? Yeah right, yeah, probably when you're not making

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Speaker 1: any money or not. Probably when you're not making money,

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Speaker 1: you're like so angry. And then Jack was maybe his

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Speaker 1: last chance for it to make money that night, so

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Speaker 1: he was like, so in a way, we should we

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Speaker 1: should put a go fund me together for this man.

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Speaker 1: I think we should all find him, befriend him. I

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Speaker 1: think they're like keeping me on the list as like

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Speaker 1: a prank or something, because every time I say the

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Speaker 1: same thing and I so I went and like did

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Speaker 1: research on what you're supposed to do, and they're like,

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Speaker 1: don't immediately hang up, don't engage with the telemarketer in

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Speaker 1: any way, which big mistake. I've been being like, I'm

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Speaker 1: like on the fence about this product, on the fence

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Speaker 1: about having no I just said, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be don't get irrationally angry, don't give up bid conversation

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Speaker 1: and hang up because they'll be like, oh, I believe

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Speaker 1: we were disconnected, And they said, the only thing you

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Speaker 1: not call list? Or don't say can you put me

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Speaker 1: on your do not call list? Or I don't want

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Speaker 1: call list? Those are like the magic words that are

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Speaker 1: supposed to legally like get you blocked from their list.

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Speaker 1: But I have a feeling that they are willfully fucking

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Speaker 1: with me because like I've I've made my intent very clear,

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Speaker 1: like I would really appreciate it you put me on

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Speaker 1: the do not call list, and they're just like getting

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Speaker 1: more aggro. You're like, don't ask us nicely. They start

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Speaker 1: calling you at three in the morning with super Hey Jack,

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Speaker 1: would you wake up a little batch? Super Producer Nick

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Speaker 1: Stuff was saying that he had a telemarketing call that

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Speaker 1: like halfway through the guys started like imitating his accent,

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Speaker 1: like started like mocking him basically, so through the mic

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Speaker 1: you did not hear. But producer next step said he

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Speaker 1: started speaking Spanish to the person on the call. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and then the person started making fun of his Spanish. Wow,

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Speaker 1: which by the way, I totally deserved. Yeah, Nick trying

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Speaker 1: don't He's like, Yo, this is not what that call

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Speaker 1: is when Nick, when Nick speaks Spanish, he speaks in

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Speaker 1: language tapes. There was this joke, man, this is a

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Speaker 1: joke for like three people who went high school with

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Speaker 1: but there was the Spanish language CD in class used

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Speaker 1: Danny and bend for that sounds like a man if

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Speaker 1: you did not shout remix when that should happens and

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Speaker 1: we're not a teenager hit with uh wow, double bomb drop.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about something called modern monetary theory right now,

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Speaker 1: which I didn't know about prior to today, and I

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Speaker 1: think that is an indicator of me not paying enough

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Speaker 1: attention to the market economics. But yeah, so the idea

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Speaker 1: m m T is sort of this macro economic theory

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Speaker 1: that that has proponents that it's like a weird cross section.

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Speaker 1: It's like AOC Bernie and then a lot of like

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Speaker 1: bankers on Wall Street and like economic theorists, like really

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Speaker 1: like advanced economic theorists all stand for this theory. And

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Speaker 1: the idea is basically, the government can spend more than

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Speaker 1: we think and that like the idea that deficits lead

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Speaker 1: to run away inflation is like it happens if you

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Speaker 1: have an unhealthy economy. But if every dollar you spend

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Speaker 1: like work and produce wealth, thing, you should spend that dollar. Basically,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm getting that right. Um So, basically, instead

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Speaker 1: of economic theorists like look at it, like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: we have to have a balanced ledger, like, like the

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Speaker 1: government is a household, and so the amount of tax

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Speaker 1: MMT advocates basically say, no, it's actually really the amount

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Speaker 1: So like just keep an eye on inflation and that's

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Speaker 1: the only thing you need to. Like, the idea that

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Speaker 1: there's like needs to be a balanced ledger kind of

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Speaker 1: fundamentally misunderstands what like government works. Yeah, because like the

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Speaker 1: government is not a economic entity. Like the government prints

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Speaker 1: its own money. That's a fundamental difference. They can print

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Speaker 1: that should stop them from printing more money is if

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Speaker 1: they are worried about inflation. But otherwise, like they should

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Speaker 1: just be creating programs and creating money to stimulate growth.

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Speaker 1: But then, so at what point does the deficit actually

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Speaker 1: and growing? So is this saying, look, don't worry about

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Speaker 1: what the bill looks like because it's being spent correctly. Yeah. Basically, Ah, well,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if right now we're actually that deficit is

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Speaker 1: actually being spent in a way that's beneficial to the country. Right.

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Speaker 1: The theorists Stephanie Kelton said that it's not the deficits

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Speaker 1: sign of excessive spending or a forerunner of inflation, but

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Speaker 1: they can be too big. So it's it's just like

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Speaker 1: start panicking. It's more using inflation as the yardstick that

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Speaker 1: you used to measure whether your deficit is getting too big.

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Speaker 1: I should tell that to my credit card company. They

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Speaker 1: point to the last seven biggest American depressions or downturns

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Speaker 1: going back two years. We're all preceded by government surpluses.

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Speaker 1: So basically they're saying that if the government is running

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Speaker 1: Here's the difference. Keep it moving, right. And that may

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Speaker 1: But this is a this is that modern ship, right

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Speaker 1: basically as long as there's you know, companies and people

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Speaker 1: what you look out for. Yeah, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 1: I was just on the phone with Paul Krugman this weekend,

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Speaker 1: so we're talking about uh well, and that's what I

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Speaker 1: this this deficit I have with y'all is not an

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Speaker 1: indicator of the runaway spending actually, and I think we

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Speaker 1: at this. They still hit you with those over draft

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Speaker 1: It's all it's on the either. But it is that

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Speaker 1: like sometimes when you get like financial advice, even on

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Speaker 1: like when you're starting out there like don't have you know,

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Speaker 1: don't really do the credit card thing because you're going

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Speaker 1: to overdraft blah blah blah. But then like as you

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Speaker 1: pay them off. And it actually makes more sense to

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Speaker 1: back and you start like doing all that ship. But

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Speaker 1: he's got a problem with personal space. There was a

426
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: journalist at the Washington was like, yeah, he fucking grabbed

427
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: me by the shoulders and like put his face up

428
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: against mind. It's like I didn't like it. Yeah, he's

429
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: gonna dig that. I dig that conversation. I did the conversation.

430
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: That's like, hey, Biden, you're a clothes talker. It's really right,

431
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: And that's what it's turning into. And I think, but

432
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: then it's starting to play out of sort of like

433
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 1: what's wrong with right and everything. Yeah, and it's like

434
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: that's that's why that stuff is so hard to articulate

435
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: to men without like it getting super awkward, right, And

436
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 1: I think for him, if he apologizes in his mind

437
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: or something, he's admit to doing something far worse, probably

438
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: probably the thing that I was worried about. But I mean,

439
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't give an example, like when

440
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: you say that sort of thing is so hard to

441
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: articulate two men, like what do you mean by that? Well? Okay,

442
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: So for for example, for example, there like there was

443
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: a guy that I used to interview with, and like

444
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: his favorite thing was to like greet me, take my hand,

445
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: kiss me on both cheeks, and put his arm around

446
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: my shoulder and pull me in. And I hated it.

447
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: But like I he was clearly making an attempt to like,

448
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: you know, work with whatever insecurity that he has around

449
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: like social like being social with a woman and come

450
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: over here, and these things were making him feel powerful somehow,

451
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: so that he was like appear with me and like,

452
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: but I didn't like any of it. But the easier

453
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: thing to do is to just like smile and be

454
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: like yeah, okay, and we'll sit down, you know, it's

455
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: much harder to be like, don't you don't kiss me

456
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: on the cheek? Man? Is then like you have a

457
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: whole big conversation that's like, well, what do you mean?

458
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: I didn't mean anything by it, you know, and it

459
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: like immediately escalates. So then at least when you know,

460
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: you have like a Biden conversation like this, you can

461
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: de escalate it somehow and be like, look, it's just

462
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: one of those kinds of moments where it's like you're

463
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: you're being a close talker right now. I don't love

464
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: it so much. It's like, you know, I don't like

465
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: that a lot. I don't like that a whole lot.

466
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: Like and it's like it's so difficult to articulate because

467
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: it's you know, Amy Schumer made that joke about grape right,

468
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: like there's that gray area that there's like different microaggressive

469
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,239
Speaker 1: versions of sexual assaults, just as there are you know,

470
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: like and how do you have those conversations without it

471
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: escalating into like super awkwardness because and then take care

472
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: of the women who are actually articulating them, because the

473
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: whole reason why we put up with them is to

474
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: not have those conversation. And so we can remain appear

475
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: right ship Yeah, well I think yeah, I think because again,

476
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: even like Joe, like the defensiveness is like, I think

477
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm being accused of something like way worse than what

478
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: it is when it's not just sort of being seen

479
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: as as just a practical matter of personal space that

480
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: like people are sort of I don't know, it seems

481
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: the way the response has been from even the people

482
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: who defend him, they act like he's being accused of

483
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: something much greater than what it is. And even then

484
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: there's no nuance in their mind about like what a

485
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: discussion of personal spaces. It's like it's it's a viola.

486
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: Is it a violation of personal space? Or is this

487
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: some just terrible transgression, right? And I think people aren't

488
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: able to sort of pass through that, or at least

489
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: his defenders aren't, because they really are going to bat

490
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: for him, like he's been accused of like being a

491
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: serial molester or something like that. How do you guys

492
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: navigate that kind of space? I I mean, as I

493
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: move more in my like professional life, I don't I

494
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: read whatever the person is giving me. So if someone

495
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: comes up to me that I'm meeting for the first time,

496
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: if they open their arms for like to like they're

497
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: a hugger or something then that oh no, no, I

498
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: start or but usually I just offer a hand like

499
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: a handshake because I just keep it like that, and

500
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm I'm also personally like I'm just I

501
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: don't want to make other people feel uncomfortable. And I

502
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,479
Speaker 1: also don't have like a desire to just be hugging

503
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: people all the time either, So I'm fine. I'm just like, hey, good.

504
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: But I'm also very open to, you know, hearing anything

505
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: about like, you know, my own privilege as a man

506
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: or whatever understanding like oh yeah, I also know being

507
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: a man. You don't hear ship like that a lot

508
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: of time for the precise reason you're talking about it,

509
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: because people would rather not have that discussion. But I

510
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: try and be as open as possible because I don't

511
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: want to be the type of dude who someone can

512
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: bring that up to. And I'm like, what the are

513
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: talking about? Right, I mean, there's no need for me

514
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: to be defensive, because at a base level, I'm like,

515
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, there's always ship to learn, there's always ship.

516
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm not perceiving there's only ship. I haven't learned I'm

517
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: here to learn, and I don't know what to do

518
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: with my hands when I'm not interacting with people, So

519
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I gotta funk with trying to do

520
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: with Okay, lot of sweats, sir, Alright, we're gonna take

521
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: a quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back.

522
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: The first thing I thought when I heard about trampoline

523
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: parks is well, that can't possibly be what I think

524
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: it is. And that I found out that it is.

525
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: It's just a big old park with trampoline is just

526
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: a big warehouse, another bit of trampolines, tamilies on the walls,

527
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: trampolines on the floor. I was like, I was like,

528
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: they must have figured something out. They must have like

529
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: some netting somewhere that other regular trampolines don't have. And

530
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: it turns out no, no, they just have really good,

531
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: uh like waves that they make people because they have

532
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: been just naming people for days and days. Well, yeah,

533
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: there's a whole report, right. So Richard Blumenthal, the Senator,

534
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: has been like pushing this thing called the Fair Act

535
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: where he's trying to get rid of like forced arbitration

536
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: for consumer cases. So in these trampoline death traps you

537
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: go to, they make you sign the waiver and to

538
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: be like, look, if you put yourself up on these

539
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: trampolines trying to do backflips that you know you shouldn't

540
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: be doing. Oh you can't see us or and if

541
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: it does, it'll go into an arbitration and you have

542
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: no other recourse legally. Uh. And so this came up

543
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: in this context because he noticed that not only has

544
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: like we've went from I think forty parks trampoline parks

545
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: in two thousand eleven to over eight hundred now in

546
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: this year, and none of them are being regulated. There's

547
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: no oversight, and they're getting away with people just signing

548
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: this ship, and it's obscuring things like there have been

549
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: six deaths since two thousand. There have been a number

550
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: of severe injuries, like including broken necks, broken ankles. The

551
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: common things are like broken ankle, open opened elbows, open

552
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: tib and fib fractures. So when we say open are

553
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: they're talking about bust through the skin. Ye compounds like something.

554
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: The nast ship a sad nast So this is you know,

555
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: it's becoming a thing. And so he was just sort

556
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: of saying, I think we need to actually begin to

557
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: turn our focus to this because there are people getting hurt.

558
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: They have no they don't they can't have their day

559
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: in court, all because we've found, you know, we've created

560
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: a system where people would be like, oh, you signed

561
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: the waiver. Sorry, Like I know, we created an environment

562
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: for you to possibly kill yourself in, but that was

563
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: on you. I mean also though, and I've I've certainly

564
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: done it myself, right, Like you need to read what

565
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: you're signing, and never do I usually do, Like I'm

566
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: the annoying person that like can I have a minute

567
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: and I will read through and I'll scan through for stuff,

568
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: and like I absolutely like pushed things back and be

569
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to sign that. You're like redlining it. Yeah,

570
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: I've done that before too, and people are like I'm

571
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: like no, and they're like, well, do you still want

572
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: to participate And I'm like, well, I'm not going to

573
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: sign that. And I've got people let me do it,

574
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: and I've not signed it because they want my money,

575
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: So challenge that. Yeah, definitely cross things out initial next

576
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: to it, then sign. Yeah. Like when I mean it

577
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: was in Cabo and I went paras selling and it

578
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: was all this gnarly stuff. That's basically like if you like,

579
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: if you drop into the ocean, like you're gone, like

580
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: we don't care. And I was like, bro, this is

581
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: like you don't even have an office. This is a

582
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: tent at a table on a beach. You're like using

583
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: a rubbing pencil to take my credit card number right now,

584
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely not signing that way right, And he was like, Okay,

585
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: no problem. I was like, yeah, as I thought, I'm

586
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: going to ship out of you, I'm reading this right

587
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: says in the event of serious injury or death dot

588
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: dot dot shrug. It was just a direction. You put

589
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: the laughing emoji with the tears. But that is wild

590
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: that like it comes institutionalized, right, where like you've waved

591
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: away your rights to be compensated for injury that is

592
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: not your fault, faulty equipment exactly, Like somebody has jumped

593
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: nine thousand times in that one corner and you happen

594
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: to be the nine thousand and one time that broke

595
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: the stories of one like so CBS and they first

596
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: heard about it, they sent an investigate like a reporter

597
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: to just kind of look into what the hell was

598
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: going on, and they said that like literally, like an

599
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: hour before this journalist got there, someone had just completely

600
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: like like busted their knees or something an hour before

601
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: she got there. This, they said. Jason free Wal, a healthy,

602
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: young dad and former college football player. Uh. He said

603
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: he could finally find the words to explain the pain

604
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: of jumping into a phone pity. I can't describe it.

605
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: I blew my knees out, Jesus. Also, you are grown

606
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: ass man, Why the hell are you jumping into That's

607
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: that's the other half of it, Like read what you're signing.

608
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: But also you you're not built like that anymore. Yeah,

609
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: be real, because like that phone pit's probably not built

610
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: for a body weighing however many pounds like the downward force.

611
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: But anyway, but that's the problem. If I see that,

612
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm my child, mine activates and I'm like, oh yeah,

613
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: I can. I can wild the funk out in here

614
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: because it's soft everywhere, right, and the chair And how

615
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: dumb would you feel if you blew your kies, both

616
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: of them out? He would have to. Anybody who tells

617
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: you a badass story about why their own crutches, the

618
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: truth is they funk themselves. I'm also very, very clumsy,

619
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: like I literally I have broken bones just standing like

620
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: where things have happened to me, like broke my finger

621
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: walking from my living room to kitchen holding a plate.

622
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: Somehow managed to throw the plate up and would to

623
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: catch it at land of my finger. I fell and

624
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: it broke my finger right like, yeah, if it's to

625
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: be broken, I will break it. We'll keep you away

626
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: from the trampoline. Yeah, no, I will never do that. No, no, no,

627
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: And we won't do the knife juggling apparasling alone is

628
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: like the biggest risk I've ever taken. So zegang, tell

629
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: me if you work at a place where you force

630
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: people to not force, but you have customers sign a

631
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: waiver before and tell me if you work in the

632
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: death pit or a death trap, because I feel like

633
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: we're talking where else could this having like a go

634
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: cart track, there's a lot of yeah, yeah, don't you sign.

635
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: I don't know how many ranges driving ranges for sure, right,

636
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of ship that like little kids do,

637
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: like their gyms like that are like gymnastics gyms ye,

638
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: water sleds for sure. And I just because always into

639
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: things when you just use your credit card too, even

640
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: though you're not like signing it will be like check

641
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: this box to agree. I think I've just always assumed that,

642
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: oh they haven't figured out right interesting, Yeah, you know

643
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: they've done. It's like, well, if they sign the paper,

644
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: we're good, welcome to knife And who's handing you that paper.

645
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: It's like a pimple faced team that's like, oh man,

646
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: I am so like I spent a lot of time

647
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: on a trampoline as a kid. I never once did

648
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: a flip. He's white, of course he did, never did

649
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: a flip. I've never dove into a pool like you've

650
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: never won't go upside down. So careful. We're got to

651
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: do a document trying to learn how to dive into

652
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: a pool. Yeah yeah, and I've noticed my oldest kid

653
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: like is very careful. Yeah, he's just like when he's

654
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: walking down the steps, he'll take like three like tests

655
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: to go down. I'm like, we're cowards. That's how we

656
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: got this far, Brian man are cowards. There's a war

657
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: on we will run the other direct for the brave

658
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: to kill each other and to sweep it up. Play

659
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: Dead needs you to sit sto and do not participate.

660
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: Ippish you knew how to go full fetal in a fistfight,

661
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: pull somebody else's body on top of yours. I wanted

662
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: to talk real quick Miles about this article he brought

663
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: to my attention everyone's attention. Yeah, it was a lot

664
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: of people were talking talking about this a few days back.

665
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: The quote is where I think. I think maybe the

666
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: title of the thing is I've been hiring people for

667
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: ten years and I still swear by a simple rule.

668
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: If someone doesn't send a thank you email, don't hire them.

669
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: M okay. Interesting. So the responses to this were varied,

670
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: but all pretty much like, what the funk are you

671
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: talking about? Do we google this person? Do we know

672
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: what they look like? Jessica Liebman, this is what she

673
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: looks like. That that's her quote. That's her quote. She

674
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: so she is the man like she does like the

675
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: Hiring it Insider, inc So Business Insider and all their

676
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 1: other like brands. So she's the person, she's the gatekeeper

677
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: for this company, and her litmus test is did you

678
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: thank me? Is she from the South? I don't know.

679
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: I know you're trying to find a reason here. Yeah,

680
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's very I have never ever

681
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: considered that it has nothing to do with like how

682
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: talented or good somebody is going to be at the job.

683
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: But so the thing she says, it only has to

684
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: do with how eager they are to get the job.

685
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: But is that the best quality? Because to me, if

686
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: you're too Thursday, it's like dating right, like just because

687
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: the dude or the lady that you're dating is like, oh,

688
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: since that that follow up text? And then it's like

689
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: how it's it can be like too much. It's like, well, okay,

690
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: you can also send nineteen thank you letters in a week.

691
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: That means the only thing you're good at is snowing,

692
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and sending letters. And not

693
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: to undermine the gesture of a thing. You know, I

694
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: think it's really great, but I listen like, I've worked

695
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: for a long time, and I've I've been in situations

696
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: where i am absolutely a manager and I'm in a

697
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: hiring position. I've I've hired several people in my life

698
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: and I've gotten thank you notes and I've not gotten

699
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: thank you notes. And in my personal experience, the people

700
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: who are writing thank you notes are the most desperate

701
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 1: people and people who have done poorly. In the interview

702
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: and they're using this as an opportunity to reiterate where

703
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: they felt like they have on wrong right, just like

704
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: if I could actually do this written yeah for this time,

705
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: or they're just such there's also a level of almost

706
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: they're assuming they're going to get a job, like where

707
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I can't wait to work forward with you.

708
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: I look forward to working with you every single day,

709
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: and like here's a note word just like hey, bitch,

710
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: I haven't even decided if I like you yet, like

711
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: thank you. But let's just a lot of the people

712
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: and their responses were like, oh, so do you actually

713
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: thank every person who's applied for your job too? Like

714
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: you do that? Like what's good? Do you think like

715
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 1: other people? Like why would you treat these people like children?

716
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: Or it's just like they're a way too many things involved,

717
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: you know. Her Her reasoning is that, like, well, it

718
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: just helps put somebody in the good apple pile, right,

719
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: he's like anything she likes to have her ass kissed. Yeah,

720
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: of course that's a very self serving boss. That's somebody

721
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: I don't want to work for. She specifically says at

722
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: Insider Inc. We look to hire good eggs. That means

723
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: language that line like gave me goose bumps, because it's

724
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: like it's like that weird, bullshitty hr lingo where they're

725
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: like just basically trying to find a way around, you know,

726
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: saying that it's completely subjective and it's whoever I seem

727
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 1: to like. So they're like, uh, so we group people

728
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: into good eggs and bad eggs and whatever it is.

729
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't, you know, I don't mean to

730
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: you know, castus persons of whatever the fun they're hiring

731
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: practices are. But I do I don't know. You look

732
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: like up, okay, miss lead man. Listen. Not everybody has

733
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: stationary bitch just hanging around waiting to put stamps on it,

734
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: like someone off you're interviewing and going to the job

735
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: we already have. You don't have time to send you

736
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: a thank you letter, I think to me, like, you know,

737
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: there have been other people I've remember the Harvard Business

738
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: Reviews someone wrote like they don't hire people if their

739
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: grammar is bad because that's more of an indicator to

740
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: them of some like if it's the if the job

741
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: is having to do with writing, They're like, if you

742
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: don't know two and two, I'm sorry you have bad

743
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: egg yea and the like, And I get like if

744
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: there's something more specific, but if it's just something as

745
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: general as like, um, you didn't massage my ego, that's

746
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: that's my problem. And I'm not sure what objectively it's like, Okay, great,

747
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: that person is polite, but that's not always the thing

748
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: you're looking for. And you don't again, you don't know what.

749
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: You don't know what the other person is going through.

750
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: To assume that just because they didn't thank you means

751
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: like they're going to be fucked up. Yeah, they're not

752
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: going to know how to say thank you. Ever, they

753
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: didn't even thank me for this interview. And her reason

754
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: is sort of like, you know, I've noticed the people

755
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: who like don't say thank you. They'll maybe accept the

756
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: offer but then pull out and then leave us in

757
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: the lurch. And just sort of like you feel like

758
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: she's had some very specific things happen to her that

759
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: she is like put into these buckets, have been like

760
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: these are my new rules, right, And who knows how

761
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: much her interaction with people after they don't send a

762
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: thank you note is coloring how much, like whether they

763
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: end up taking the job, Like she's like, well, Honestly,

764
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: that's what she's prejudiced, like, she's absolutely putting, which is

765
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: kind of like against all CHR rules for hiring. You're

766
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: supposed to consider each candidate on the merit of their

767
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: skills and juxtaposed that against the job description that you

768
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: have posted and pick the right person. So someone from

769
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: Business Insider was asked actually specifically about the ethnicity or

770
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: the breakdown of their their newsroom, and it says, thank

771
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: you for the question. With respect to race and ethnicity

772
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: of our teammates identified themselves as people of color. Three

773
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: years ago, this percentage was within our newsrooms, thirty percent

774
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: of staff identify as people of color, up from twenty

775
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: three years ago. Getting there, I mean, I've worked in

776
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: places where I was like, yeah, they're like to take

777
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: the black box economism Asian and a black person good,

778
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: he's rare. What is something you think is overrated? Okay?

779
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: I think shaving your legs is overrated. I'm over it.

780
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: It makes you like so dry, I have to moisturize

781
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: so much, it takes us to do it every day.

782
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: I'm just bored. I'm done. Okay, But um, what I

783
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: find underrated definitely conflicts with that, and that I think

784
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: it's underrated to shave your whole face, your whole face.

785
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: I recently started shaving my whole face and it feels

786
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: so good. It's so smooth. I have to use half

787
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: as much lotion because it's not getting stuck on the hair.

788
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: It's so gratifying to just wash the peach fuzz fall off.

789
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm a big fan. Are there, like

790
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: is it an urban myth? Like you're not supposed to

791
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: shave your peach fuzz or it comes back whiskers. I

792
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: think what the truth is in that is that cutting

793
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: it gives it a blunt edge. But once you've ever

794
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: cut it, I think that's true. I'm sure who knows

795
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: some peach fuzz person and you're like a stripping your hair,

796
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: your face of protective layer. It's probably bad, but it

797
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: feels good. You're like a light complexed person though, so

798
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about that peach fuzz coming

799
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: back as thick black hairs coming out from under eyelids,

800
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: or I will say getting older, the mustache is darkening.

801
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: It is, it's getting thicker. So another reason why shaving

802
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: my whole face is kind of a fun thing for

803
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: me now right, see how many times I shave I

804
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: still get this like weird, patchy Johnny Depp hair. Yeah.

805
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: I blame my Japanese side for that, but because on

806
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: my dad's side, motherfucker's are rocking beards. Yeah, maybe as

807
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: you get older they'll go thicker. I don't know. I'm

808
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: like thirty four and I have like the I have

809
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: a preteen like beard face, you know what I mean,

810
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: like reeves. I know, but you know what, fine, you know,

811
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: I look young forever. Yeah, that's that's definitely not a

812
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: bad thing, trust me. Yeah, but you know what, you

813
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: have beard privilege. I look and I look all the time,

814
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: like there's a certain point if you have if it

815
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: grows in evenly, you can rock it and still kind

816
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: of like, oh that's rugged. There have been times people

817
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: have literally asked me if I was okay, but not

818
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: even like in a shitty way, like it makes it worse.

819
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: And college you're like they're like, it's everything okay because

820
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: they think that you had a full beard and like

821
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: pieces of it are falling. I don't know, just radiation

822
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: because like you know, there was a time, oh my god,

823
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: I did November like a few years ago and that

824
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: was such a fucking nightmare. People just laughed. When I

825
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: worked Power one on six, people were growing like real

826
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: beards and should I came in, people like you could

827
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: just do a Karamo did in the first season, a

828
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: queer eye and painted on. Oh damn you that I know. Yeah, yeah,

829
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: I know, I like that. So just to make it

830
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: clear to everyone, you are not saying shave your whole face,

831
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: including eyebrows. I leave my eyebrows, but you don't have

832
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: to fund it is an aggressive look. Go nuts. Yeah,

833
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: oh to go eyebrow list. He's been rocking that. I

834
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: know that guy from fucking Nohoe hank On Barry. You

835
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: guys watching that, he makes it look good. Yeah, I

836
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: don't want to shave him. Oh wow, we'll see Yeah, okay,

837
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: next time I'm on. That's just some mep, some photoshop

838
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: exact that it looks all right. We're gonna take a

839
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: quick break, we'll be right back, and we're back, all right.

840
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: So I do want to talk about the black hole

841
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: because I think there's something dead inside me. Guys. I

842
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: A it looks like did it change you? A really

843
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: terrible photograph I took of the eclipse back when that happened,

844
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Speaker 1: or like when I would be like, whoa, the moon

845
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: looks so cool when I was drunk, and then like

846
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: I would look at the picture in the next day

847
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: that I took of the moon and it's just like

848
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: a blurry, little tiny thing, like no part of He's impressed.

849
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: We have the first ever photo of what hole? Why

850
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: am I not the same? Yeah, in the same way.

851
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 1: And I looked at it and I went whatever so quickly,

852
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: And I feel terrible because I understand intellectually that the

853
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: black hole is one of the greatest mysteries in space,

854
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: and we have found we have come to a moment

855
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Speaker 1: where we have collaboratively aimed all of our telescopes at

856
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: the ship and gotten our first image of this thing, right,

857
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: And my first reaction is like, yeah, that looks like

858
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: out of focused picture of Saron's eye. Yeah, I'm sure

859
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: that's exactly so, Yeah, you would know you guys are

860
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: both clearly on the dark side here. Yeah. We was

861
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: like calling me, that's why you looked at You're like, yeah,

862
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: what's up? That's my homie. I know this. This doesn't

863
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: visit you in your dreams. So Robert Evans, host of

864
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: Behind the Bastards was in the office this morning, and

865
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: he said it filled him with wonder. Super producer Nick

866
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: Stuff agreed, Uh, I wouldn't it fills me with wonder?

867
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: I just was like moved on with my life. Pretty

868
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm honestly already annoyed because of the meme treatment. Like

869
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: I feel like we can't have any cool news without

870
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: me just seeing it too many times and the hating it.

871
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: So the first place Robert saw it was apparently within

872
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: thirty one minutes of it was undiscovered, it was on

873
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: got Se on the butd Hole part of really creative

874
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: meme work. Yeah, and just dogged mean work, mean work.

875
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: They're just like ready now science temp Yeah, just like

876
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: drop any circular for the meme makers union. Um but

877
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: I like people have said that we've been ruined by

878
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: movies because we're not impressed by it. But I feel

879
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: like we've actually been ruined by science because they've been

880
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: showing us like amazing images of what black holes might

881
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: look like. I guess so illustrators. Yeah, like illustrators are

882
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: too good. They're fucking it up for us. Uh, they're

883
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: too imaginative. Um. But so the thing that kind of

884
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: made me come around on it. The glory part is

885
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: basically the place where all the uh they're using radio

886
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: radio telescopes whatever. So how did they take the picture?

887
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: Because my understanding as a black hole sucks everything in

888
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: right right and not suck in their camera. Yeah, so

889
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: I lost nothing up about this. I just saw a

890
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: Shrek's eye and I was like, yeah, I know you're

891
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: talking about So the story of how they did it

892
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: is actually cooler than the image. To me. It was

893
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: a woman, right, it was. They said a hundred and

894
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: twenty different scientists working in a concert, So definitely a

895
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: been involved there to get all those people to work together,

896
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure. But that I'm sure that was sexist in

897
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: some way. I apologize. But the the like using radio

898
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: telescopes from all over the world. They basically and they

899
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: sinked all the telescopes with an atomic clock so that

900
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: they were like communicating in real time essentially, and that

901
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: enabled them to create a telescope that was essentially as

902
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: big as our planet, which is what you need to

903
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: be able to see this, because they said it is

904
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: the equivalent of looking at something like a line drawn

905
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: with a mechanical pencil. In Los Angeles from New York

906
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: is Like how hard it was to find this. I

907
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: needed the context to understand the impressiveness of it. Yeah,

908
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: so that this black hole is different. Most black holes

909
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: are the size of the city of Chicago. Uh. At most,

910
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: this black hole is the size of the Earth's orbit

911
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: and it's the center of a galaxy. So that's why

912
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: they're able to even like think about seeing it. But

913
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: like the nearest black hole to Earth would be like

914
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: being able to see a molecule through a telescope in

915
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: Los Angeles from New York. So it's we're not there yet,

916
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: but the we are able to see the fucking mechanical

917
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: pencil line. All right, my bad science. Yeah you did it.

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Speaker 1: I get scared of it. I don't know if this

919
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: is how quickly we're able to break uncharted terrain, Like

920
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: what am I going to see before I die? And

921
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: do I want to see it? In a way, I

922
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: kind of feel like ignorance is bliss when it comes

923
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: to space stuff. Very scary. Yeah, Hey, if we're lucky,

924
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: we might see the world in oh god, telescope from

925
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: New York. Oh ship. Yeah, but right, isn't that a

926
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: thing where you can like see I guess you see

927
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: the past of other galaxies. Not Yeah, I saw Interstellar.

928
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: So like, if you think about it though, like love

929
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: is the one and all that transcepts both time and space.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeite. Guys,

931
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Speaker 1: please like and review the show. If you like the show,

932
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: uh means the world to Miles. He needs your validation. Folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By