1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. John 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Cobel Ken Champeau, I Am six forty live everywhere in 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio App. We're on the radio from one till four, 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: and after four o'clock you can join the hordes listening 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: to Johnny Ken on demand. Its same show, it's on 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: the iHeart app. It's the podcast. 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a new form of the mob, isn't it. Yes, 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: Johnny Ken Mob. Yes. 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: And you can supercharge your masculinity through the podcast as well. 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, we understand that one to four isn't exactly convenient 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: for all of our listeners, so picking up the show 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: on the podcast right after four o'clock is a nice 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: way to catch up on everything we're doing. And today 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: it's packed. But of course, the big story throughout southern 16 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: California is what happened to some high school students in 17 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: Thousand Oaks. They got run over, and if you look 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: at the mugshot of the man who did this, you 19 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: gotta believe drugs may have been involved, just because he's bearded, disheveled. 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: I supposedly he is homeless, living out of a car. 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: It all started with a stabbing out a Walmart and 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: seem Valley. We're gonna get the whole story now, plus 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: more from Blake Trolley cafind You. 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: See, I believe people should be put in jail for 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: the way they look, and you'll probably clean up a 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: lot of problems. And if you saw this guy on 27 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: the street, you'd say, you know, he should be put away. 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: And look what he's done. Blake, what's going on? 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, So this appears to be some sort of rampage, 30 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: all occurring within an hour in a triangle of cities. 31 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: It goes stabbing at Walmart in Seemi Valley, then some 32 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: sort of fight with his family in came Rio, then 33 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: he heads back to Thousand Oaks. That's where he runs 34 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: up on a curb, then hits a group of teenagers. 35 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: But let's start with the Walmart in Seemi Valley, which 36 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: is essentially chapter one in this crime spree. As far 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: as law enforcement goes, we've been given little information on 38 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: this incident between both the Ventura County Sheriff's Office and 39 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: the Seami Valley Police Department. We were really just told 40 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: one person was stabbed and one person was assaulted. So 41 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: I traveled to this walmart and spoke to an employee. 42 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: This is really the first time I've been given any 43 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: sort of picture as to what happened here. 44 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 4: So basically, I was riding my motorcycle on my brake. 45 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 4: I come back and I find a lot of cop 46 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: cars and a whole bunch of ambulances. I'm like, Oh, 47 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: what's going on. So I go to my manager. I'm like, 48 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 4: what's going on. She's like, you'll find out soon enough. 49 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 4: So I go around start asking people, Hey, what's going on, 50 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 4: and they said someone got stabbed. I'm like, got stabbed where? 51 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 4: And they're like, oh, in the garden area. I'm like, 52 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 4: do you know why. He's like, because the employee asked 53 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 4: the customer for a receipt. I'm like, that's why he 54 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 4: stabbed him. 55 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: He's like yeah. 56 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: I'm like it's ridiculous, and everybody's like, yeah, I know, 57 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: it's crazy. And then I heard that the guy that 58 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 4: got away not got away, but he hit four high 59 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 4: schoolers on the way and killed one, a fifteen year old. 60 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're covering that story. So when he was here, 61 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: this was in the garden area. 62 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, So AN asked him if he wanted to receipt 63 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: and he hit them. 64 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, he hit him, and then apparently he rooughed up 65 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 4: a woman too. Yeah, and he stabbed them at the 66 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: thigh and then I don't know where else he stabbed him, 67 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 4: but I heard he's doing pretty good, the guy that 68 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 4: got stabbed. 69 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 5: So that's good. 70 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, well thank you. 71 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: Pretty scary stuff happening here. 72 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, man, this is daily left al Walmart, 73 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: you know. 74 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: So the Venture County Sheriff's Department guy says that after 75 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: this stabbing at Walmart, the guy went to came Rio 76 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: and again this is where he gets into some sort 77 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: of fight with his family. We're told nobody was injured there. 78 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: But then he hooks back two thousand Oaks, which is 79 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: essentially coming back the other direction, only this time he'd 80 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: be south of Seam Valley, so this would be just 81 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: you know, southwest of Seem Valley a little bit. And 82 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: that's where he hit these kids who were up on 83 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: up on the sidewalk. V Turk County Sheriff's Commander Garro 84 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: courage and says investigators think that the fact that he 85 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: hit these kids was intentional. 86 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 6: That's what the weaknesses said. That it appeared to them 87 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 6: that it was an intentional act by the mannerism that 88 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 6: the vehicle was driving. 89 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: Can you maybe break that down for us, though I 90 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: don't have. 91 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 6: Any more that I can disclose about that, but it's 92 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 6: based on the interviews that the investigators received. 93 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: And don okay, what kind of witnesses did. 94 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 6: They speak they spoke with There were several students, dozens 95 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 6: of students that were in the area, and that's who 96 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 6: they spoke with. They're still investigating, they're looking for video evidence, so. 97 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: As you can hear there, there were a ton of 98 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: students in the area, likely waiting for a bus because 99 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: according to a GoFundMe page, the kid who has killed, 100 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 3: his name is Wesley Welling. He was a freshman. The 101 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 3: page says he was waiting on a bus to head 102 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 3: home to celebrate his mother's birthday. He did have at 103 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: least one sibling, so again you could imagine just how 104 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: challenging of a day that must have been for his mom, 105 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: this happening on what was likely her birthday. Today, a 106 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 3: vigil is growing by the high school. Kids have been 107 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: coming to pay their respects, many of them in disbelief, 108 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: including this kid who tells me they just never thought 109 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 3: something like this would happen. 110 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 7: It's because, like Weslick is one of those areas you 111 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 7: do not expect anything to happen. It's like just a 112 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 7: peaceful area, you know, there's never like no problem, is 113 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 7: just calm, everyone's nice to each other. And then when 114 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 7: this happened yesterday, everyone was like wow, wow. 115 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: So investigators say intentional yes, but no motive has been 116 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 3: released yet. If this account we're given guys from Walmart 117 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: is true, this really does point to potential drug use 118 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: or potential some sort of altered state of mind. We 119 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: asked law enforcement this morning if he was known to them. 120 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: They said no. 121 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 3: I called the Ventura County DIA's office. They didn't have 122 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: any immediate record available for him. They're looking into it. 123 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: But where is he from besides his car? 124 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: He is from this from Ventura County. 125 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: He grew up in that. They say that he went 126 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: to this school. Is that true that he didn't have gone. 127 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: To West I was doing a lot of digging right 128 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: now as far as his actual background goes. There is 129 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: a lot of hearsay on a lot of this that 130 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 3: I'm working to confirm. All that we really know from 131 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: law enforcement is that he's from here in Ventura County. 132 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: I mean, guys, there's a lot of facts, you know, 133 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: a lot of facts that we're chasing right now. This morning, 134 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: investigators wouldn't even tell how fast the guy was traveling. 135 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 3: The street where this happened, typically is forty five miles 136 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: per hour, given that there were kids in the area, 137 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: that would drop the speed limit down to twenty five. 138 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: But again, police this morning not even giving us, you know, 139 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: that detail how fast was he going? And again, something 140 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: that I'm waiting to hear is what is it about 141 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 3: the testimonial that you were given from those students who 142 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: saw this and told law enforcement it appears that this 143 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 3: was intentional. What is it about their testimonial that led 144 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: law enforcement to make that determination that, yeah, he intentionally 145 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 3: hit this this group of kids. And I should say, 146 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: aside from the kid who was injured, you know another 147 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 3: one of these kids, a girl, is in critical condition 148 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: because of this. 149 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: And his last name is Eis Is that pronounced Ice? 150 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 3: It is pronounced ice, yes. 151 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: Right, Austin Ice. But you said it didn't seem to 152 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: be any priors on him. 153 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: Anywhere, you know, no priors came up with as far 154 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: as there hasn't been anything obvious that any of these 155 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: law enforcement agencies have asked. Again, I have put in 156 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: an inquiry with the Ventura County DIA's office, but they 157 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: had nothing. You know, as far as like surface knowledge goes, 158 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: Oh we know that guy. 159 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: Nobody in his family has come forward, not as of now, 160 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: and right now he's only twenty four. 161 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: He is only twenty four. And again, when you hear 162 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: this chain of events, I mean, it does start to 163 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: point to at least some speculation. There's no denying it 164 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: that this was likely some sort of mental health or. 165 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, ridge mental health, all those things. Do you know 166 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: if for sure, if he was living out of his car, 167 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: was anything. 168 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: Again, those are the details that I'm working to confirm 169 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: about this guy. Is really get you know, into the 170 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: details of who this guy was today. It was a 171 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: big part of this guy's was just figuring out exactly 172 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: what had happened because so many of the details we 173 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: were given initially were pretty spotty. Right this Walmart stabbing, 174 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: for instance, we really didn't get a lot of information 175 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: on and we were trying to figure out exactly what happened. 176 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: And as you hear those details it kind of you know, 177 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: paints a clear picture. But yeah, Austin I is twenty 178 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: four years old. He's being held on a five million 179 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: dollars bail set to be formally arranged tomorrow. Booked on murder, 180 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: attempted murder, attempted robbery and more charges. 181 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: And do we know anybody in the Camrio home was 182 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: hurt by him at all? Or he was not. 183 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: No, nobody was injured in that fight when he went 184 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: to cam Rio. Nobody was injured. 185 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: All right, Blake, thank you very much. Good job. Maybe 186 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: we'll talk to you later if you've come up with 187 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: some more stuff. Yeah, well do you guys? All right? 188 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: Blake Trolley KFI News covering the events that occurred yesterday 189 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: afternoon when in Ventura County, when a man now identified 190 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 2: as Austin ice Eis I actually went looking on social media. 191 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: I don't know that I found him, but there was 192 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: somebody on Twitter, Instagram who goes by Eis Iceman. He 193 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: calls himself. I don't know it's the same guy though. Anyway, 194 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: he apparently stabbed an employee at a Walmart and seem Valley, 195 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: then drove to his family home. We believe in Camario 196 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: got into some disturbance there and then eventually made his 197 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: way to the area of Westlake High School, where he 198 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 2: ran over those teenagers, one dead, one critical, and then 199 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 2: two others injured. Four people. Hint, all right, when we 200 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: come back, the chance for you to win some money. 201 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: It's still around the CAFI Inflation compensation contest. Johnny Ken 202 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: I AM six forty Live Everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 203 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 8: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 204 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 8: AM six forty. 205 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: So a man who may be homeless and may have 206 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: mental health or drug problems apparently stabbed an employee at 207 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: a Walmart and see me Valley, then went home. They 208 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: have fought with family members in Camillo, then made his 209 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: way to Westlake High School and ran over some teenagers. 210 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: Now the walmart story, which Blake got a great interview 211 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: with an employee, may have been some dispute over a receipt. 212 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 2: He was in the garden area of the walmart was 213 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: offered a receipt, so that led him to take out 214 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: a knife and stab an employee. Isn't the leg he said? 215 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: In the thigh yeah, the thigh yeah, which is part 216 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: of the shows you how easy crazy people timp. 217 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: If he's on neth or if he's you know, psychotics gets. 218 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: Up when it purchased, Why would you be upset over 219 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: being offered a receipt? I don't know. The question doesn't 220 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: make sense because we're dealing. 221 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: With No, you're dealing with violent impulses and a psychotic. 222 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: So you get to add what you get. You can 223 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 2: add all these people out there right there. He has 224 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: a family apparently, but I guess they decided to a 225 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 2: twenty four, we're not putting up with him anymore. So 226 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: we may have been living out of his car from 227 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: what we understand. 228 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: That's what So much of this is some psycho in 229 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: the family that they get tired of dealing with because 230 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: he's probably fighting with them and physically assaulting. 231 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: Why do we say, somewhere in your twenties some men 232 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: really developed schizophrenia? Right, yes, at the age for that. 233 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: Kind of it can start anywhere from the late teens 234 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: into the late twenties, and it's like a time bomb 235 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: that goes off. 236 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, the sad Kelly Thomas story from years ago, it's 237 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: what happened to him in his twenties and then he 238 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: eventually was beaten to death by police officers in Fullerton, 239 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: and there we're familiar with this pattern. And there's no 240 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: solution to this because you can't tamp down the symptoms 241 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: with a lot of drugs. But I think we mention 242 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: and this the other day. One of the symptoms is 243 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: you don't think you're nuts, So most of them don't 244 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: want to take the drugs, so you're stuck. Now. 245 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: So the crazy person runs around and he's hearing voices 246 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: and getting commands, and dogs are talking to him, and 247 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: he's acting crazy and he won't take his medication. So 248 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: of course he ends up in a car, or in 249 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: a tent or face down on the ground. 250 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: Right. He talks into a walmart and something sets him 251 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: off about a receipt, so he takes out a knife. 252 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: And you know, I've read it. 253 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: I just read a long excerpt from a book A 254 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: guy whose best friend was schizophrenic, and eventually this guy 255 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: murdered his fiance, And it really was frustrating just reading 256 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: the excerpt. Is all the friends and family tried to 257 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: get him committed to various programs and in various. 258 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: Mental health lockdowns, right. 259 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: And sometimes they take them in for a while, but 260 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: the system always spits them back. 261 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: Out. They always say, well, now you got to go. 262 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: Times up. You spend enough time here and you have 263 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: to leave. Number one, they're under the beds. Number two 264 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: of the laws are in the favor on the side 265 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: of civil liberties. So you and that person don't want 266 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: to stay there, they get to go. So you end 267 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: up delaying the inevitable. You don't cure the problem. It's 268 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: just like, Okay, he's locked up for now. He's not 269 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: going to kill anybody today, but you can never let 270 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: him out. 271 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: And again, there's no cure for this unless you drug 272 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: yourself up every day or you're being forced to get 273 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: drugged up, and to force somebody, you'd have to have 274 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: them in a lockdown facility. 275 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: So there are people that take medications every day and 276 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: can live another you know, fifty years with schizophrenia. Because 277 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 2: you said there's no cure. No, there's no kit. They 278 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 2: control it with the medication, right, Is there anything else 279 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 2: that can be done? No, some sort of behavioral therapy 280 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 2: or no. 281 00:12:55,480 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: Because it's it's like a biologically organic problem. It's it's 282 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: something wrong inside the brain, you know. You know, a 283 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: lot of therapy is about teaching you how to deal 284 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: with you know, the ups and downs of life, you 285 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: know a philosophy on how to handle it, Like if 286 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: you're an impatient person, a jumpy, nervous person, techniques in 287 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: order to calm down, if you're carrying baggage from your childhood, 288 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: looking at your parents in a different light. Just for 289 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: most people, just talking out loud and having somebody say yes, 290 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: I understand works. It's not any of that here. This 291 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: is about brain damage. You're born with something some time 292 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: bombing your head that goes off and your brain starts deteriorating. 293 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: Now we don't know enough about this guy, and this 294 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: is the point of the show where I say not 295 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 2: all mentally ill people are violent, but clearly some are, 296 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: and you've got to get control of that situation. I'm 297 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: sure at some point this family will have something to 298 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: say about Austin Ice deep some You don't. 299 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: Let people live in a car, you don't let them 300 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: live in a tent. You change the laws to have 301 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: them forcibly committed. That's what That's what I rational society 302 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: would do. 303 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we keep hearing that out of Sacramento, but I 304 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: haven't heard any of the latest that they want to 305 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: change those laws dealing with taking people into custody when 306 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: they can't care for themselves. As they put it, I 307 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: mean you could see. 308 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean, these are some of the most peaceful towns 309 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: that we have in southern California. Westlake, you know, a 310 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: thousand oaks, seem Me Valley, seem Valley. I'm you're not 311 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: going to get calmer places. But no, no, if you 312 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: have crazy man who's either a schizophrenic or he's you know, 313 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: whacked out on meth, then you know, anybody can be stabbed, 314 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: anybody can be run down or killed. 315 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: And look at that. He didn't even use an assault weapon. 316 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: How about that one? Yeah? Oh this update, he's out 317 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: on no bail. No, but now this story related to 318 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: crime is a doozy. I saw this headline last night. 319 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: I stared at it twice. I couldn't believe it. They've 320 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: arrested in an La man by the name of Namir 321 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: Malik Ali Green for thirty on one armed robberies and 322 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: two carjackings. That's that's quite a quite a spree convenience 323 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: stores across southern California. Was that last year? The year before, remember, 324 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: there was this run of seven eleven robberies and they 325 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: eventually rested to La guys because they killed people. Yeah, 326 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: this guy, as far as I know, did not kill anybody, 327 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: but he allegedly committed thirty one robberies or attempted robberies 328 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: of gas stations and convenience stores and at least two 329 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: carjackings in LA and Orange County. Listen to this from 330 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: March twenty first April fifteenth. He did all this of 331 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: this year. That was just a few weeks. 332 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he stole total of over twenty five hundred dollars 333 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: from gas stations in Hermosa Beach, Marina, del Rey, Long Beach, 334 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: Pico Rivera, Whitti or Monte Belle, Santa Monica, and mid City, LA. 335 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: It's just like you're see in the movies. He would 336 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: just come in, he points a gun, give me some money, 337 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: and leaves. It's probably all over in a matter of 338 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: a minute, eight gas station convenience stores and attempted to 339 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: rob one more. 340 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 5: Oh. 341 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: On one day, on April fourth, he did this. He 342 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: robbed eight and attempted one more. So one day he 343 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: went after nine convenience stores. That's a good workday, April fourth, 344 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: that's a busy work day. Imagine comes home, honey, I'm tired. 345 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: But look what I got here, thousands of dollars. It's 346 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: pretty good salary for one day. Sir. What did you do? Well, 347 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: you know, I'm robbing people. 348 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: He's interesting is they hit him with a federal crime. 349 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: The hobbes act that maybe Gasconne would say, I'll pass right. 350 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: I wonder if they did this to get a round 351 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: gascon Yeah, I don't know, because it's charged with interference 352 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: with commerce by robbery, and that could be a federal crime. 353 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: I imagine they don't normally do it for a local thief. 354 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: But this is the kind of thing that Gascone would 355 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: not give any serious prison time too. 356 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: They think he took in over fifteen thousand dollars in 357 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: total cash during the robbery spreing, and of course it 358 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: ended with the police chase. See when I see these 359 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: polite stakes. Now, now, this is a guy that would 360 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: not want to stop because if they tie him to 361 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: the robberies, he knows he's in deep trouble. So he ran, 362 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 2: but they eventually caught him. He jumped out of the 363 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: car and they nabbed him. Yeah, he could face a 364 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 2: statutory maximum sentence of twenty years. Yeah, Oh well, he's 365 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 2: how old is the hero doesn't say I thought he 366 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: was pretty young? All right? We got more coming up. 367 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, when we already he was twenty three. We're 368 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 2: gonna learn a lot more about a big story we 369 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: talked about yesterday, and that was a ruling by a 370 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: federal appeals court that the city of Berkeley cannot ban 371 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: the use of gas powered stoves in new construction homes. 372 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: Carl to Myow knows a lot about it from Reform California. 373 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: He'll be our guest next. 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Yesterday we mentioned a story, 388 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 2: but we're gonna get a lot more good detail on 389 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: it from Carl Demayo, chairman of Reform California and the 390 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 2: leader of a statewide campaign opposing the attempt which has 391 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: been growing, particularly in the Bay Area, to get rid 392 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 2: of your gas appliances. 393 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: This is the latest, uh sick freakout by the climate cultists. 394 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: They've now decided that gas stoves are gonna are gonna 395 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: destroy the atmosphere and the right. 396 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: But the cover story they've been giving is it's unhealthy. 397 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 2: You could die from that natural gas in your kitchen. 398 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that that's you know that, that's the way 399 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: this goes. Now you have some fanatical belief that the 400 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: climate's going to boil over. Not many people actually believe that, 401 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: and so you have to come up with another argument 402 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: that scares you immediately. Well, well, well you're gonna get poisoned. 403 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: It's like this has been poisoned by their stove. Nobody, 404 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: it's never happened. So anyway, we got a good court 405 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: ruling to reverse this Berkeley. Well, I'm we're going to 406 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: get Carl Demio to talk about this whole issue. Carl 407 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: how are you, Hey. 408 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 5: Guys, a very very rare win for common sense and 409 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 5: freedom in California. So we're celebrating, but the fight's not over. 410 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 5: We know that there's a lot more that the politicians 411 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 5: pushing these crazy mandates are going to try to do 412 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 5: to ban not only gas stoves, but all gas appliances. 413 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 5: We're not just talking gas stoves, your water heater, your furnace, 414 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 5: your fireplace, anything gas appliance in your home would have 415 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 5: to be removed replaced. And there's a cost of thirty 416 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 5: thousand dollars per home for the very expensive retrofit mandates 417 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 5: that they're looking at imposing in California. 418 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: Oh so it's not just new construction. They're going to 419 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: come after existing the home. 420 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 5: No, no, it's not. And this is the Berkeley case is 421 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 5: about a law that was passed in twenty nineteen because 422 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 5: Berkeley was one of the first cities to do this, 423 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 5: that said we're going to ban gas appliances in new construction. 424 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 5: The restaurant Association immediately filed a lawsuit. Now we got 425 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 5: this ruling at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeal saying 426 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 5: that no, California cannot ban natural gas appliances in new construction. 427 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 5: But people need to understand that now thirty six localities 428 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 5: in California have banned natural gas in new construction, and 429 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 5: there's a big band now they're doing existing building mandates. 430 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 5: The Bay Area Air Quality Council, which is a state agency, 431 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 5: imposed a mandate a month ago requiring that all homes 432 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 5: and businesses would have to do retrofits to remove all 433 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 5: the gas appliances no later than twenty twenty seven. In 434 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 5: San Diego, they're looking at a twenty thirty or twenty 435 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 5: thirty three deadline. So this is a retrofit mandate on 436 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 5: top of just new construction, but all appliances. 437 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: This judge's decision says you can't do this in Berkeley 438 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: because only the federal government has jurisdiction over this particular issue. 439 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: So does this apply now to all these sweeping laws 440 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: that you just listed. 441 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, But this judge's decision, it was actually three 442 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 5: judges of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which is 443 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 5: the federal court, and they said that no, California, whether 444 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 5: you're a city or a state agency, you don't have 445 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 5: the power to bypass Congress, which has said that they 446 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 5: get to set the standards on appliances and energy efficiency, 447 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 5: and it's a federal issue. Three judges have agreed that 448 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 5: this should be blocked. 449 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but in the absence of an appeal that 450 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: is successful. 451 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 5: That they are yees, they are right. 452 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 2: So and if if this. 453 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: Issue is upheld all the way through the Supreme Court, 454 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: let's say, then that would that would kill. 455 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: This whole strategy, for it would and new construction, it. 456 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 5: Would absolutely kill it. That's why this is such a 457 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 5: great decision. We are very pleased by. But the battle's 458 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 5: not over because we do know that they're going to 459 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 5: be asking for a full hearing at the Ninth Circuit 460 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 5: and then if they don't get what they want there, 461 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 5: they're going to appeal it to the US Supreme Court. Now, 462 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 5: let me just say I am thrilled with the ruling, 463 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 5: but I also recognize that if we do end up 464 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 5: before the US Supreme Court, it is quite possible that 465 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 5: the conservative judges will see it from a different standpoint 466 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 5: from the standpoint of the ten Amendment, and they may say, look, 467 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 5: we don't agree with the gas appliancepan, we think it's crazy, 468 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 5: but the Tenth Amendment gives the states the power to 469 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 5: do certain things and the federal government can't usurp that. 470 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 5: So we are not out of the woods yet. Well, 471 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 5: that's a situation where it goes to the Supreme Court. 472 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: I believe that that, yeah, that's that's an opposing philosophy 473 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: because these judges said that they cited federal christ they 474 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: can't overrule federal And you're saying that you could have 475 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: some conservative judges who say, well, federal can't overrule state. 476 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: Conservative judges like to pull power to the states. That's 477 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: kind of their their things. 478 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 5: They do exactly. So so we have we have some 479 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 5: good judges that made this decision, and I agree with 480 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 5: them that the federal law as it's currently written says 481 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 5: that states cannot impose their own restrictions or mandates that 482 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 5: have an impact on the type of utility that's used 483 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 5: for energy efficiency standards. Now, when it gets before the 484 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 5: Supreme Court, I fully expect the Democrats to change their 485 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 5: argument up and try to play to the originalist justices 486 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 5: who basically look at the Constitution in a very cut 487 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 5: and dry manner. And they may they may look to 488 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 5: the Tenth Amendment and decide differently. And that's why we 489 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 5: have a two track approach in our campaign to stop this. 490 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 5: We support the lawsuit that the Restaurant Association brought before 491 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 5: the Ninth Circuit, and we're pleased with the result, but 492 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 5: we do not believe r out of the woods. We have 493 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 5: to make this an issue in local elections as well 494 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 5: as state elections, because we're dealing with both local mandates 495 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 5: and state mandates to ban. 496 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: There's so much hysterical fanaticism now, and these people work 497 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: for organizations and they're paid very well to create the hysteria, 498 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: and most of the public doesn't really pay attention to details. No, 499 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: And so this is the sweet spot of these activist 500 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: groups is they take issues or they take races that 501 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: hardly anybody pays attention to, gets all crazy about it, 502 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: and then impose something drastic that nobody really wants. 503 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 5: But yeah, the number of people that when I talk to, 504 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 5: whether it's in the Bay Area or in San Diego 505 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 5: or in some of these other thirty six cities that 506 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 5: or locations where natural gas appliances have been banned, no 507 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 5: one's aware of it. And I've talked to Democrats, Independence, Republicans. 508 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 5: Everyone agrees this is a bipartisan issue that this is 509 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 5: crazy that this is expensive, that there's no need to 510 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 5: do it. It's not convenience. 511 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: Gas stoves have zero impact on the climate zero. 512 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 5: In fact, I would argue that they're even more environmentally 513 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 5: friendly than electric stoves, because when you use a gas 514 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 5: appliance in your home, you are achieving or recapturing ninety 515 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 5: eight percent of the energy that gas holds. If you 516 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 5: use gas to make electricity and then type electricity into 517 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 5: a home for an electric stove, you lose about seventy 518 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 5: percent of the energy in that transaction. So when I 519 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 5: grew up, and I think when you guys grew up, 520 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 5: what we taught that environmentalism meant waste, not want not. Well, 521 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 5: the ban on electric gas gas appliances is very wasteful. 522 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 5: It's not good for the environment. We don't have the 523 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 5: energy and the electricity to even power these appliance, so 524 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 5: we believe that this campaign has to be waged. We 525 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 5: have a website Stop the gasban dot org, Stop the 526 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 5: Gas band dot org where people can get more information 527 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 5: that can sign our petition, and we want to make 528 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 5: sure that we get as many people signing the petition 529 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 5: because we use that during the campaign to make sure 530 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 5: people know who they're voting for and what their position 531 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 5: is on the natural gas band. So it's stopped the 532 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 5: gasband dot ORG. 533 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: In a parallel story to this Carl is the electricity grid. 534 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: It's now going to be expected to hold up all this. 535 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: The car? Is it going to be electric? All the 536 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: homes are going to be electric? There's there's there. It's 537 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: impossible how much wind and solar we're gonna be able 538 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: to come up with? 539 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: How far does this go before it hits the wall 540 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: of reality? There's there's never gonna be an electrical grid 541 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: to handle all this. 542 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: It's impossible. 543 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 5: Well, and I believe that the left wing Zelots pushing 544 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 5: this know that, and that's why they literally have been 545 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 5: telling us that we are being greedy when we have 546 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 5: air conditioning, uh, and that what we need to do 547 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 5: is is put ourselves on energy diets. And in Europe, 548 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 5: I look at what the Europeans are proposing to see 549 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 5: how we're going to move here in this country. And 550 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 5: and they've been saying, you know, change yours thermostat, you know, 551 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 5: have a government regulated thermostat at home. Uh. So that 552 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 5: is that you can't turn up your air conditioning. 553 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: When it taught electricity. They're going to tell us that 554 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: that you have to go on an electricity diet. That's 555 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: how they can deal with the electricity shortage. I think, well, 556 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: I guess you can't use it very much, and if 557 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: you keep trying to, that's when you'll through the internet, 558 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: you'll have the government able to regulate our electrical supply 559 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: and simply turn it off to your house once you've 560 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: exceeded a certain minimum. 561 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. And they've done this on so many other levels 562 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 5: with the water fines, despite the fact that we have, 563 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 5: you know, more than enough water in California if we 564 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 5: were actually able to store it during the good years. 565 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 5: The pattern is the same. They increase the cost, they 566 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 5: then restrict, and then they mandate that you have to 567 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 5: do without. 568 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: All right, cal thank you so much again. It's Stopthegasband 569 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: dot Org for more on this. We appreciate talking to 570 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: you again. 571 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 5: Thanks guys. 572 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: All right, Carl Demayo Reform California and their campaign to 573 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: stop the natural gas bands. Find out more at stop 574 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: the gasband dot Org. Plenty of good information there more 575 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: coming up. Johnny KENKFI AM six point forty. We're live 576 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: everywhere in the iHeartRadio. 577 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 8: App you're listening to John and Ken on demand from 578 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 8: KFI A six forty. 579 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: It's time for Dodger Baseball. 580 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: Tomorrow. The Dodgers will take on the Cubs in Chicago. 581 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: First pitch at four forty. Listen to the game in 582 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: HD on the free iHeartRadio app Live from the Gaping 583 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: Motors Broadcast booth. Kate Wearing AM five seventy LA. 584 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: Sports Coming up after two o'clock. We're gonna bring back 585 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: to the show Matt Cappaludo. Matt has been pushing tirelessly 586 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: for something called Alexandra's Law to be passed in Sacramento. 587 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: His daughter, Alexandra overdosed on fentanyl. She didn't think she 588 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: was getting fentanyl. She thought she was getting an opioid, 589 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: but the pill was laced with fentanyl and she died 590 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 2: on her college break. Acquired the pill through social media. 591 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: It's a wall. Public safety committees in Sacramento Assembly, Senate. 592 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: It is a wall. They don't want to do anything 593 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: that would add more prison time and hide behind the 594 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: dopey line of oh, the war against drugs was a failure. 595 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: We're not going to repeat that anyway. He's reached out 596 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: to us. We we said yes, because he says that his 597 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: bill is the last bill standing which holds fetanyl dealers accountable, 598 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: and he wants to give out John's favorite state Senator, 599 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: Scott Wiener's phone number and ask people to call him. 600 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: The amendments we have addressed all of the committee's concerns. 601 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: We have twenty one Senate co authors, which is a 602 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: majority of the state Senate. There was a bill that 603 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: was proposed by a Democrat to deal with this too, 604 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: that got rejected by this this dopey public Safety committee. 605 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: So because they're they're they're they're fanatics, and they don't 606 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: care that teenagers are dying a fetanyl a poisoning. 607 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: They don't care. 608 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: What do you do with somebody who doesn't care? You 609 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: ever try to talk to somebody who doesn't care. 610 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: What happens. I don't care. 611 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you reason, you try to reason with him, couldjole them, 612 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: you could yell. 613 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. They don't care. 614 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: So but we'll we'll talk to at capital. Luto coming 615 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: up after two o'clock. I just want to say one 616 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: more thing, because I think Carl Deamayo laid out a 617 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: blueprint here for what's going on. You have to be 618 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: hyper aware of it. Well, they wanted they wanted to 619 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: get rid of gas stoves in Berkeley, and an appeals 620 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: court said, no, you can't do that because there's federal 621 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: law that supersedes. But but what they're doing, and they're 622 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: going to do this to electricity. They're going to do 623 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: this with gasoline. They're going to do this with water. 624 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: They're going to do this if anything you need to 625 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: live on is they're going to create a policy so 626 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: that the prices go really high, and then they're going 627 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: to create a shortage. And then they're going to say, well, 628 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: if there's a shortage, you can't afford it, use less. 629 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: And that's the world they want to impose on us, 630 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: a world where we use less water, less electricity, less 631 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: natural gas, less gasoline. We have to live the way 632 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: they want us to live. There's plenty of supply of 633 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: all this. We have plenty of gasoline and oil. We 634 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: would have plenty of electricity if they weren't obsessed with 635 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: wind and solar, plenty of water. But they create artificial 636 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: shortages and artificially high prices to bully us into you 637 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: live like we say, and it's sick. 638 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: And it has worked to some extent. 639 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: Mostly biggest people are are just oblivious to what's going 640 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: on in the world. 641 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: They really are. 642 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: This gas, this gas they create hysterios like well, gas 643 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: gas stoves are. 644 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: Gonna kill you. 645 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: They're not gonna culle it's gonna cause massive global warning. 646 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: No it's not. 647 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: These are just lies, hysterical lies to emotionally manipulate you, 648 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: like the covid lies. 649 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: Uh, be careful if you go outside. There's a six 650 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: hundred pound satellite hurtling toward Earth and it's set to 651 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: make a crash landing the retired Reaven RAMEDYE High Energy 652 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: Soul spect what is it Spectroscopic Imager spacecraft God that 653 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: is a long freaking name one two, three, four, five, 654 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: six seven eight words, otherwise known as r h E 655 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: SSI RECI will re enter Earth's atmosphere today after over 656 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: two decades in orbit. What time Most of the satellite 657 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: will burn up, but some parts have a chance of 658 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: surviving and crashing to Earth. The risk to anyone on 659 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: Earth is low. This thumber bothers me the one in 660 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: two thousand and four sixty seven that you know, I 661 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: would take that chance with a lottery ticket because that's 662 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 2: pretty good compared to the long eye you had for 663 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: winning the big lottery. Wouldn't take much to swish tover, 664 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: would it. Maybe it's gonna happen while we're on the air. Yeah, 665 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 2: what'll happen right here in this building. Come right through 666 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: your news booth there. Wooeah. It's been real. It's been 667 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,479 Speaker 2: observing solar flares and coronal mass ejections that have aided 668 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: scientists investigation into the physics of the Sun and the 669 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: sun energy bursts. It has recorded one hundred thousand X 670 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: ray events, according to the agency, as well as gamma 671 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 2: ray images. It marked the first time gamma ray and 672 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: hy energy X ray images of soul wet as they 673 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 2: has actually been captured. The warranties up. I mean, why 674 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 2: is it falling from the sky. Well, yeah, eventually after 675 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 2: two decades, Sean, it's it. It gets tired, like like 676 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 2: your car is not going to last forever, and nothing 677 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: lasts forever. People die, objects die. I mean, it's going 678 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 2: to disintegrate up there. Well maybe you thought it would 679 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 2: be up there for. 680 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: A million years, and there's a lot of there's a 681 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: lot of junk up there for a long time. 682 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 2: Now. 683 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: I wondered why most of it doesn't fall to Earth, 684 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: and I wonder why the ones that do. 685 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: Why, Yeah, I have no idea about that. You'll have 686 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 2: to talk to some space junk expert. It was decommissioned 687 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen due to communications difficulties. It's six hundred 688 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: and sixty pounds, relatively lightweight satellite compared to the others. 689 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: But they just want the world to be aware that 690 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: it's going to be returning to Earth. And of course 691 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: we've had multiple instances of Chinese rocket debris that he 692 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 2: entered the atmosphere last year. That happened several times, but 693 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: I don't think there are any injuries. I mean, most 694 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 2: of the Earth is water, right, so the chances are 695 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: that's where it's going. And most of the land is 696 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: empty land. That is true too. We had the fact 697 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: that we always complain about being packed in. 698 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: Well, we have this irritating habit of clustering very close together, 699 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: large numbers of people by the millions. They so much 700 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: empty land and water out there. 701 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 2: Twenty seven thousand pieces of space junker out there floating in. 702 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: Orbit, right, Yeah, So I'm wondering, like, why why does 703 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: this one fall out of the sky and the other 704 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 1: twenty seven thousand, Keep going. 705 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 2: Our guest next is Matt Cappoluto, trying to get Alexandra's 706 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: Law passed in Sacramento. He's been hard at this for 707 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: a long time, but he keeps running into public safety, 708 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: community idiots, and Sacramento. It deals with fentyl and punishing 709 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 2: fentanyl dealers. 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