WEBVTT - David Reaboi - DeSantis is a Once in a Generation Leader

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Buck Saxon Show. Everybody with me now,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend David Reeboy. He is a fellow at the

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<v Speaker 1>Claremont Institute. He also has a great substack, Late Republic Nonsense,

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<v Speaker 1>to know how to get gains in the gym, he's

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<v Speaker 1>also an expert on that one. For those of you

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<v Speaker 1>who are only listening and not seeing. If you're watching

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<v Speaker 1>this on YouTube, you'll see exactly why. But mister Reeboy

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<v Speaker 1>honored to have you on the program. Sir, what is

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<v Speaker 1>it tell me about Late Republic nonsense? That's an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>title for a substacker. Are we the Late Republic? And

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of nonsense is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>We are indeed the Late Republic? Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a name that came to me because nothing

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<v Speaker 2>else seemed even remotely as appropriate. I think, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought for years that we're in the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>late Republic period, and you know, when I started saying it,

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<v Speaker 2>people thought I was crazy. But at this point I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think there were be all that much pushback. And

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<v Speaker 2>the nonsense part is like, these are the things that

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<v Speaker 2>that happen when you start talking, you know, when when

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like the form of government and uh and

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<v Speaker 2>and the the the things that we used to take

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<v Speaker 2>for granted, really about about our union, and about uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, comedy and civility and and and the things

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<v Speaker 2>that we all thought we agreed on or maybe haven't

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<v Speaker 2>in in quite a long time. I mean, at some

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<v Speaker 2>point it's going to reach it's you know, it's at

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<v Speaker 2>some point it's it's going to reach the end. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that talking about it and talking about why

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<v Speaker 2>these problems are are you know, maybe seem insurmountable is

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<v Speaker 2>the only way that we can really face them and

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<v Speaker 2>and and uh and do something about it.

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<v Speaker 1>How did we get to this point? What happened? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I do often talk to friends of mine, my peers

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<v Speaker 1>about how it didn't seem like maybe everyone has nostalgia

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<v Speaker 1>for the era of their youth, but it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineties we were arguing over things, but we

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<v Speaker 1>were arguing over things from roughly the same side of

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<v Speaker 1>the world viewpoint. I can't really explain it better than

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like we used to be arguing more over,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the tax code and things that didn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>go to the heart of the republic itself and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>undermine it, maybe kick at the load bearing walls of civilization.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, well, I mean, that's that's that's a question that

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<v Speaker 2>has about a million different possible answers going back as

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<v Speaker 2>far as as you know you'd like to go back.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people who say that the problem is ingrained

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<v Speaker 2>in liberalism and the enlightenment itself. You know, it's it's uh,

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<v Speaker 2>there is a there's a propensity for this stuff. Let's say,

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<v Speaker 2>this openness to self destruct given enough time and and

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, the passage of enough uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>enough generations. I mean, I think trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>where the problem started is almost pointless because we're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to rewind, and we're not going to go back,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's no time machine to go back into, uh

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<v Speaker 2>and to necessarily fix it. But what we're dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>is the fact that we have two completely different conceptions

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<v Speaker 2>of justice. I mean, that's the that's the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the basis, is that we understand justice differently between left

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<v Speaker 2>and right, and and that kind of has its expression

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<v Speaker 2>in every possible conceivable issue.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't how do we conceive of justice and

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<v Speaker 1>how do they conceive of justice, David Well, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, they conceive of justice as as as group justice,

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<v Speaker 2>and we see it as a kind of individual thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you or I did something, then you

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<v Speaker 2>or I did something. We believe in the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>justice is blind and you're judged on the things that

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<v Speaker 2>you do, not necessarily on the things that you are,

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<v Speaker 2>which is how Which is the other view of justice

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<v Speaker 2>that the left has, which is you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we we call it collectivist, but you can call it

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<v Speaker 2>anything you want. I mean, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>it really matters to them if a perpetrator is black,

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<v Speaker 2>or if he's white, or if he's this, or if

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<v Speaker 2>he's that. You know, that is the thing that defined

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the characteristics is the thing that defines, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the way justice necessarily is served. And that translates too

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<v Speaker 2>to politics, you know. I mean you see, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got you've got juries that in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 2>Or in Chicago or in you York City that would

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<v Speaker 2>convict a republic you know, that would put a Republican

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<v Speaker 2>to death for jaywalking. Because it's such a kind of

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<v Speaker 2>us versus them, you know, conception when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to justice and that's something that's really significant. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not just something that you that you paper over.

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<v Speaker 2>And here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>When you talk about collectivists their collective sense of justice,

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<v Speaker 1>why does somebody want to be a collectivist or where

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<v Speaker 1>does this come from? Is it rooted in a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of one's own insufficiency, weakness and the paranoia that comes

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<v Speaker 1>from that, and therefore the desire to achieve stability and

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<v Speaker 1>even power through attachment to a group identity instead of

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<v Speaker 1>an individual identity. What it just seems to me, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why would anyone want to be a collectivist?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean Thomas soul has about this in in

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a very beautiful persuasive way. In in uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the quest for cosmic justice where he

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<v Speaker 2>basically splits up human nature into two different types of uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or let's say two where he splits people

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<v Speaker 2>into two different types of you know, the way they

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<v Speaker 2>deal with human nature. You know, one is fixed and

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<v Speaker 2>one is non fixed. So we who are who are

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<v Speaker 2>on the right, we say human nature is fixed. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>people are going to be people from one civilization to

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<v Speaker 2>the next. They're going to prioritize different things, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be essentially people, They're going to be motivated

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<v Speaker 2>by the things that always motivate people, you know, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, religion or honor or the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we we we have a love of one's own,

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<v Speaker 2>which goes back, you know, to the beginning of time.

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<v Speaker 2>The the unfixed position on the other hand, which just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, commonly we think of as left, they say, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's actually humanity is a blank slate which

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<v Speaker 2>comes from Rousseau, and we think that hey, we can

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we can socialize people out of all of

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<v Speaker 2>these horrible, bigoted, terrible ideas by getting them to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>by doing whatever, and you know, raising them differently, educating

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<v Speaker 2>them differently, you know, And you see this every day,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you see see the left going crazy, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida, where they can no longer necessarily have access

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<v Speaker 2>to kids to talk to kids about you know, about

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<v Speaker 2>sexual issues. They're going crazy because they know that that's

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<v Speaker 2>their whole game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, what is that? I mean, the the ferocity

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<v Speaker 1>with which the institutional left and the activists of the

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<v Speaker 1>progressives and these are just all different words for democrats, right,

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<v Speaker 1>These are all different flavors of a democrat. But the

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<v Speaker 1>anger with which they approach the issue of stopping clearly

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<v Speaker 1>inappropriate and pornographic books from being assigned or handed to

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<v Speaker 1>grade school children, or even this this decision or this

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<v Speaker 1>idea that somehow allowing a you know, forty year old

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<v Speaker 1>man with a hairy chest to put on a wig,

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of makeup, fishnet stockings, and shake his butt

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<v Speaker 1>in front of a room full of in many cases

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<v Speaker 1>parents with their children, which is also a whole other component.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say this is bad, they don't try to

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<v Speaker 1>persuade you, right, David. They don't say no, no, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good thing, because they become ferociously angry, almost

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<v Speaker 1>like a demonic rage surges. What's that way?

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<v Speaker 2>In a way they have to be because oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>forgetting who said it, but somebody made an observation years

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<v Speaker 2>ago that was was excellent, which is that since the

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<v Speaker 2>Civil rights struggle in America, or let's say, since the

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<v Speaker 2>the left was victorious in the Civil rights struggle in America,

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<v Speaker 2>everything became a civil rights struggle. And so now every

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<v Speaker 2>issue is framed in terms of you know, in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of uh, you know, self expression and liberties and and

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<v Speaker 2>uh and you know, we talked about the next frontier

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<v Speaker 2>of groups that are you know, that are marginalized, that

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<v Speaker 2>are finally coming out of the shadows and and and

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<v Speaker 2>you know getting you know, getting full and equal uh

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<v Speaker 2>you know rights. And now we've gotten to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where we're talking about pedophiles coming out of the shadows.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about all kinds of weird, deviant, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of crazy sexual stuff. I think they get angry when.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they get angry because at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, they kind of have to be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they there's a part of them that is human that

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<v Speaker 2>says this is totally wrong, and they're trying to convince

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<v Speaker 2>themselves with their furiosity that that they're on the side

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<v Speaker 2>of the good and the and the you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>good and the wholesome and and you know sort of

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<v Speaker 2>on the side of of the angels and the right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's that's that's part of it. I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing is that a lot of people have

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<v Speaker 2>been shocked at how how comprehensively the left has folded

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<v Speaker 2>on the issue, for example, of of you know, minor

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<v Speaker 2>children being gender transitioned.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there is not I always say about this,

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<v Speaker 1>David not interrupt you. But there is no such thing

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<v Speaker 1>as a gender transition. I have to remind every I know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the terminology we're all supposed to use. There is

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<v Speaker 1>no gender transition. There is gender destruction. You can destroy

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<v Speaker 1>your genitalia, you can destroy your ability to have a

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<v Speaker 1>normal you know, endocrine function and reproductive system. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you can destroy it. You cannot change it, though that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't actually work.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, but you know they will argue that there

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<v Speaker 2>is biology, and then there is sort of the ineffable

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<v Speaker 2>way you feel about your gender, which is your gender identity,

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<v Speaker 2>and your gender idem has absolutely nothing to do with,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with with biological reality. And to say that

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<v Speaker 2>it does is you know, some kind of terrible, horrible thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're amazing how the argument is is completely

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<v Speaker 1>incoherent because they say that gender, the gender reality, has

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with your sexual reality. Well, then why

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<v Speaker 1>do we have to match the sexual reality of children

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<v Speaker 1>to their gender identity? Right? They the connection, they disassociate it.

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<v Speaker 1>They can create these additional categories. But then they also

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<v Speaker 1>in insists that there is a connection that has to

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<v Speaker 1>be changed. Right, what's the why not if we're just

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<v Speaker 1>if we're just letting people be who they are, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's about psychological affirmation, then why do you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do the physical stuff and the other part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I always talk to people about it. With this stuff too,

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<v Speaker 1>is no one actually thinks that these are women. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>who goes along with this, and we're talking generally here

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<v Speaker 1>at about men, you know, biological men or boys who

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<v Speaker 1>try to transition to female. They're not fooling anybody. And eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>and even if they're able to fool some people in

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<v Speaker 1>some situations, you know, from a distance or with makeup

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<v Speaker 1>or with AI or whatever, eventually it becomes clear this

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<v Speaker 1>is not actually a woman. So why do we go

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<v Speaker 1>through this? But there's really something deeply corrupt in the

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<v Speaker 1>soul of the left and the Democrat Party these days

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<v Speaker 1>that I think this really exposed that. David. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to come back to this in a second. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you speak of party politics. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're very you have a lot of ideas about

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty four election and where things should be

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<v Speaker 1>and where things are right now. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get into this. But first coming out this Tuesday, May

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<v Speaker 1>twenty third, in the morning, please join me online for

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<v Speaker 1>That's Disruption twenty twenty three dot com. All right, David,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we have to know about how things are

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<v Speaker 1>looking for the GOP in this now beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four election cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's I mean, the basics are unchanged really for

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<v Speaker 2>the last several months, which is that it's a race

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<v Speaker 2>between Donald Trump and Florida Governor Ronda Santis. It's no

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<v Speaker 2>secret that I support the governor. I was. I was

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<v Speaker 2>a big Trump supporter for eight years, for four years

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<v Speaker 2>during his during his term, and in twenty nineteen, when

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<v Speaker 2>after I moved to Florida, I was shocked and very

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<v Speaker 2>impressed with the way my Governor Ronda Santis was handling

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<v Speaker 2>not only COVID but other issues that were important to

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<v Speaker 2>the right as well. And I think he's a once

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<v Speaker 2>in a generation or more leader because at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day I talk about this thing, I say,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to know what time it is, And that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of shorthand for understanding the moment that we're in,

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<v Speaker 2>understanding that the fight necessarily cannot be won by simply

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<v Speaker 2>being a Republican of yesteryear. I think the most important

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<v Speaker 2>characteristic that we need to find, let's say, those of

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<v Speaker 2>us on the right need to find in a leader

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<v Speaker 2>is someone who's willing to aggressively and competently use state

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<v Speaker 2>power against some of the institutions on the left and

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<v Speaker 2>to try to rebalance, to try to rebalance the power

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<v Speaker 2>relationships and to protect the American citizens. DeSantis is the

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<v Speaker 2>only guy out there, frankly, that recognizes that the threats

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<v Speaker 2>are not only coming from the government. They're coming from

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<v Speaker 2>large corporations. They're coming from academia. They're coming from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from big tech, They're coming from medical boards, They're coming

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<v Speaker 2>from all of these let's say, non governmental associations that

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<v Speaker 2>nevertheless are wielding tremendous ideological power over us, and and

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<v Speaker 2>that balance needs to be reshifted or else we all lose.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what's the point here if if if Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>can force us or you know, another big company can

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<v Speaker 2>force us too to feel a certain way about politics,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and and and take on the left view,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, who cares. Who's sitting in the

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<v Speaker 2>oval office?

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<v Speaker 1>They just great note, I think your I think your

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<v Speaker 1>cord is touching your mic a little bit because we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting some interference. And just watch your uh, watch your

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<v Speaker 1>ear quard of that a little bit or it might

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<v Speaker 1>just be the connection, but just watch the cord there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I look on on onto the the reality of

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<v Speaker 1>institutions platforms and and leveraging leveraging power. I've been shouting

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody who will listen that the idea of the

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<v Speaker 1>neutral space that the right had been obsessed with the

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<v Speaker 1>Conservatism that I became familiar with in high school, college

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<v Speaker 1>and afterwards, that we want a marketplace of ideas, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are also areas where we want things to be

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<v Speaker 1>non political. I think the right has woken up to

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<v Speaker 1>a reality. And it's not just now, it's been about

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<v Speaker 1>the last six or seven years in the making that

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<v Speaker 1>if the other side thinks that they don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>respect this so called neutral space because they can run

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<v Speaker 1>the table on you, that's what they're going to do, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to have enough power to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>are we're gonna be We're gonna be fair and neutral

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<v Speaker 1>in this area or not, and if you're not, we

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<v Speaker 1>can do something about it. If you're just appealing to

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<v Speaker 1>the left sense of fair play, they'll just stomp your

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<v Speaker 1>face in the mud and laugh at you. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think the conservatives have finally gotten the memo on that

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe I think we have out in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>out out in the public, but uh, we have not

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<v Speaker 2>had a champion like Rohn de Santis, who was sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in power and actually has the ability to do some

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<v Speaker 2>to do something about these things. I mean, it's one

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<v Speaker 2>thing for us to say, you know, yes, we need

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<v Speaker 2>to fight back against these uh, these these institutions. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's another thing to have someone who also understands this

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<v Speaker 2>and has the power to do so, and the inclination

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<v Speaker 2>and frankly, the fearlessness with which to do it. He

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<v Speaker 2>understands that value neutrality is nonsense in this day and age,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can have which is you know, exactly

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<v Speaker 2>kind of going to your point, there's that space in

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<v Speaker 2>society that we kind of assumed was, you know, let's say,

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<v Speaker 2>empty of political content. But now the left has filled

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<v Speaker 2>that space with political content. There's nowhere you can go

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<v Speaker 2>from advertising to uh, you know, to to anywhere else where.

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<v Speaker 2>It's where like these left ideology has not kind of

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<v Speaker 2>seeped in. And this is moral propaganda from every possible avenue.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the end of the day, it's like it

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be it needs to be stopped. And Governor

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<v Speaker 2>DeSantis understands that, and he's willing to, uh, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>willing to He's willing to fight it. Not only that,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean what he did, for example with a new

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<v Speaker 2>college up in Sarasota.

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<v Speaker 1>my name. All right, David, what happened in Sarasota? What

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<v Speaker 1>a governor of santists do to the university there or

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<v Speaker 1>the college there?

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<v Speaker 2>So there was a there was there is a university there.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a small liberal arts school that the state

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<v Speaker 2>was paying for. And rather than close it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you had kind of, let's say, the old Republican point

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<v Speaker 2>of view was, hey, this stuff costs money, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there are leftists there. Let's just close it down

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<v Speaker 2>and walk away. But Desanta's was a lot smarter than that.

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<v Speaker 2>He realized that, hey, why can't we use it for

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<v Speaker 2>our purposes? And it sounds like such a little thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's actually a revolution in terms of the way

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<v Speaker 2>the right sees itself, the way the right sees its

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<v Speaker 2>ability to exert power, and and really it's the way

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<v Speaker 2>the right sees itself as being legitimate. And Desanta said,

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<v Speaker 2>as a matter of fact, no, we're going to keep

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<v Speaker 2>it open, but we're going to make sure that it becomes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know it, that it stops teaching leftist insane dogma

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<v Speaker 2>and goes and becomes let's say, the premier state run

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<v Speaker 2>school for liberal arts and true education in kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the old way, as opposed to NonStop leftist propaganda. And

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<v Speaker 2>he went and he replaced you know, he replaced the

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<v Speaker 2>director or whoever I mean on the staff that that

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<v Speaker 2>put up some resistance to this. And now he's getting

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<v Speaker 2>teachers who are coming in from all over the country

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of wanting to do something like Hillsdale College

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida, And this is going to be a thriving,

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful school at some point when when when it really

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<v Speaker 2>gets off the ground and they start doing this, And

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<v Speaker 2>of course the left is going completely bonkers about this

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<v Speaker 2>because they you know, DeSantis knows, and they know that

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<v Speaker 2>DeSantis knows how important not just academia is to them.

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<v Speaker 2>But the the the fact that for up until now,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's even been on the field when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff. So they're going crazy. They're freaking out because

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<v Speaker 2>one school is not hard left and and we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of we need more of that. And that's just I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's one, you know, little tiny example. Disney is the

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<v Speaker 2>big one that everyone talks about, but they're really a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think here in Florida, he has redefined what

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<v Speaker 2>it means to have conservative governance. And he has done things.

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<v Speaker 2>He's passed laws you know, I mean in this session

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<v Speaker 2>alone that folks on the right have been wanting for,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for for ages we didn't need. We wrote

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<v Speaker 2>them off as if we would never get them. And

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<v Speaker 2>and what that does is it attracts more people on

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<v Speaker 2>who are on the right to move to Florida. Number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two is it's created such a kind of thrilling happiness.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very hard to describe if you don't live here,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, everyone that you run into is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of is happy to be here. Couldn't couldn't be more happy,

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<v Speaker 2>and couldn't be more happy with the governor. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>there are some you know, discontents, but you have that malcontents,

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<v Speaker 2>but you have that everywhere, and hopefully the campaign kind

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<v Speaker 2>of getting back to that. Hopefully the campaign will will

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<v Speaker 2>show everybody Florida and will show that you know that

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans all around the country want a piece of this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they do.

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<v Speaker 1>I ask you in a second, David, just about the

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's a I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>call a war on aesthetics, beauty and aspiration in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you've seen recently, it's not just recent. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's been going on for years now. All the

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<v Speaker 1>guys with hairy chests wearing women's bathing suits to try

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<v Speaker 1>to sell. Like just it feels like something weird is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Where as a society, we're no longer allowed to have

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<v Speaker 1>All right, David, you know what I mean. The War

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<v Speaker 1>on aesthetics, the elevation of the ugly, the unhealthy, and

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<v Speaker 1>the grotesque in our society, in our culture. What's that

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<v Speaker 1>all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's about dispiriting us, you know, at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day. And I don't I don't necessarily think

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<v Speaker 2>that this is a that this is an organized effort,

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<v Speaker 2>that there's somebody in the back in a control room saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, let's give these people terribly ugly things.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think they're has been a long war on

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<v Speaker 2>on beauty kind of traditionally understood and and it's very

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<v Speaker 2>let's say, it's very easy to hop on board that

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<v Speaker 2>bandwagon and uh and and go for the destruction of beauty,

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, when you are yourself not beautiful or or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, terribly ugly. I mean, it's a horrible thing

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<v Speaker 2>to say, but I don't think, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we've all noticed how Antipha looks when they are arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we we all have an idea of of

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<v Speaker 2>of the types of you know, the way that the

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 2>folks look who show up on lips of TikTok videos,

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 2>and you know, then these these folks are not happy.

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<v Speaker 2>So so the question is do they try to destroy

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<v Speaker 2>beauty because they are not happy, or are they not

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<v Speaker 2>happy because they are not beautiful and they want to

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<v Speaker 2>destroy beauty. I mean, it's it's it's kind of chicken

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<v Speaker 2>and an egg thing. But I think you're right to

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<v Speaker 2>notice that it's absolutely going on. We see it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of in in every place. I mean, from music to

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 2>cinema to art to everything that that is all around us.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, even the way even the way you see

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<v Speaker 2>colors you know, put together in in ads or things

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<v Speaker 2>like that. It's not the way things you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's kind of meant to unsettle in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>And and the kind of weird biolininist psycho sexual gender

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 2>thing kind of you know, feeds into that. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think most people who are normal kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>turn around and they look at this and they think

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<v Speaker 2>this is awful weird. One of the nice things is

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<v Speaker 2>I have a I have a nephew who's who's fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and he is kind of thankfully immune to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the woke stuff, and he just tells me about

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>his experiences in high school surrounded by this insanity. And

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 2>his parents are not very political, and so he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of came to realize that these things were insane on

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<v Speaker 2>his own, which gives me a lot of hope, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, here's a here's a young kid who just

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<v Speaker 2>looks around and said, you know, these people are obviously insane.

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 2>And I said to him, why do you think that

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of had the antibodies to fight off this disease?

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, oh, it's simple because I play football,

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 2>because you know, for a couple hours every day, I

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 2>put the phone down and I do something real and

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I do something physical, and you know, and I can't

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<v Speaker 2>talk my way out of it. I can't not show up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. If it's the same thing with the gym,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and it's you know, folks who folks who

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<v Speaker 2>lift are almost always right wing. Why because you know,

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 2>you can't talk your way out of it. Either you

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<v Speaker 2>did the thing or you didn't do the thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>and that world of the real is really important. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really important to maintain because what a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>want and the way things are going. If you look

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<v Speaker 2>at you know, you look at AI, you look at

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<v Speaker 2>social media. I think a lot of folks out there

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<v Speaker 2>are desirous of a world that exists, you know, electronically

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<v Speaker 2>and that's it, and we're and we're not you know,

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>we're no longer interacting in the real world. We're just

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're sending messages to one another. We're no

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<v Speaker 2>longer talking on the phone. Instead, we're just texting each

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<v Speaker 2>other all day.

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<v Speaker 1>The mat is feeling very real these days, right, So, so.

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<v Speaker 2>The most important thing now is to have at least

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<v Speaker 2>one or two or maybe more real things that you

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<v Speaker 2>have in your life that connect you with reality.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to a point of optimism to close on, David,

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<v Speaker 1>but we can leave it with that one, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that doing real stuff and operating in the real world

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<v Speaker 1>and setting aside time in your day every day to

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<v Speaker 1>think about whether it's at the gym or just you know,

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>reading good and real books and going for walks outside

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>in the sunshine or in the snow or wherever you are.

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<v Speaker 1>That can affect the way you view the world and

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<v Speaker 1>also puts the as you put it, the antibody's in

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<v Speaker 1>place to fight against the woke mind virus that is

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<v Speaker 1>out there. David reboy, everybody go check out his substack

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<v Speaker 1>Late Republic nonsense. David, my friend, always appreciate you hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much, it's my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>See us soon.