WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: End of the Road

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The although we've come to the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the road addition, as the Bengals end the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty season with a downer getting run over by

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<v Speaker 1>the Baltimore Ravens. Thirty eight to three coming up, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear radio replays, postgame comments from players and coaches, and

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<v Speaker 1>in depth analysis from Dave Lapham and in this week's

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<v Speaker 1>Heard enough of me singing, I thought, so let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to football. The Ravens started the game with a twelve

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<v Speaker 1>play drive that took nearly seven minutes off the clock.

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<v Speaker 1>It ended with a Justin Tucker field goal that made

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<v Speaker 1>it three nothing Baltimore. The Bengals answered with what looked

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<v Speaker 1>like a huge gain on their third play from scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 1>Three receivers stretch out to the left, one out to

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<v Speaker 1>the right. It's third down and eight shotguns snap allan

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<v Speaker 1>with a quick throat caught by Tehiggins right springing up

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the field. Penalty flags down. He's to

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty. The Baltimore forty five then goes down at

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens forty and he appears to be hurt. See

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<v Speaker 1>Higgins grabbing at his hamstring after catching a pass that

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<v Speaker 1>breaks the team record for catches by a rookie, But

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<v Speaker 1>there are penalty flags down. If it's against Cincinnati, it

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<v Speaker 1>won't count, and te Higgins appears to be hurt. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he missed some practice time this week with a hamstring problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be a pick offensive pass offense by Janyard

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<v Speaker 1>penalty third down. Yeah, they called the the OLDPI. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what allowed Tehiggins to break free. And then he exacerbated

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<v Speaker 1>that hamstring issue that he had. He was limited in

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<v Speaker 1>practices earlier in the week with a hamstring problem, and

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<v Speaker 1>now it's worse and he's still down on the field

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<v Speaker 1>getting attention from the medical staff. It wipes out the catch.

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<v Speaker 1>And if the hamstring is in fact the injury and

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<v Speaker 1>he does not continue today, he will not break Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Collinsworth's franchise record. Instead, they share the record. His teeth

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<v Speaker 1>finished a fantastic rookie year with sixty seven catches for

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred eight yards. Here's quarterback Brandon Allen on the

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<v Speaker 1>loss of a forty one yard gain and more importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the team's best weapons on a snowball from there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, anytime you get a big play like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that one gets called back in two, you lose teeth

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the game with the hamstring. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it was, so you know, like we said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>it definitely took some win out of ourselves. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a good offense, you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to come back from that and execute. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's always been next mentality. So you know, anytime it

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<v Speaker 1>was a really good player like Tea for a game

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<v Speaker 1>is tough. But you know, guys, I thought really have

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<v Speaker 1>been stepping up all year and continue to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and we just weren't able to get it done. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't. Meanwhile, Baltimore scored again on its second possession

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<v Speaker 1>out of a pistol formation. Jackson fakes a handoff, does

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<v Speaker 1>a piro wet now throws it deep down the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the field. Boykin catches it at the five and

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<v Speaker 1>runs into the end zone with Lashawn Simms trailing him

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<v Speaker 1>a forty three yard touchdown pass Lamar Jackson to Miles Boykin.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the first quarter, the score was

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<v Speaker 1>ten nothing and total yards were one fifty two to four,

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<v Speaker 1>But early in the second quarter, the Bengals defense provided

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<v Speaker 1>a golden opportunity. Third down in five, the Ravens at

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<v Speaker 1>their own forty one, Andrews goes in motion. Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>back to throw, looking looking pump fakes, throws back again

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<v Speaker 1>and this time it was intercepted a team. Davis Gather,

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<v Speaker 1>with his first career picked Marcus at the forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>yard line and the Bengals come up with a takeaway

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<v Speaker 1>and Margus Hunt got it again. Marcus Hunt, that's his

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<v Speaker 1>second chip, isn't that series a keen. Davis Gaither's first

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<v Speaker 1>career pick gave the Bengals the ball at the Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven. They gained three yards on three plays and

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<v Speaker 1>had to punt. Baltimore took over at the seven and

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<v Speaker 1>basically put the game away. This has been a sixteen play,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five yard drive that's taken eight and a half

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<v Speaker 1>minutes off the clock. Third down in eight, Lamar back

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<v Speaker 1>to throw, chucks it toward the middle of the end zone,

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<v Speaker 1>a sliding attempt and a touchdown catch for Hollywood Brown

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<v Speaker 1>beat Jayalen Davis very easily. It was seventeen nothing before

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals even had a first down. They got three

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<v Speaker 1>in a row on their final drive of the first

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<v Speaker 1>half and got on the scoreboard thirty seven seconds left

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<v Speaker 1>in the half. Harris will snap, Huber will hold. Huber

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<v Speaker 1>looks back at the kicker, now turns his head, catches

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<v Speaker 1>the snap, puts the ball all down. The kick is

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<v Speaker 1>blasted by Cybert and it is good. It was seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>three at a half, but quickly became a route when

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens scored on their first two drives of the

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<v Speaker 1>third quarter to by two. Formation. Now one of the

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<v Speaker 1>receivers to the left motions into the backfield. That's Dobbins.

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson gives it to JK. Dobbins and he runs

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<v Speaker 1>into the end zone, scoring a touchdown for the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>consecutive game in his rookie year. Lamar Jackson rolls right,

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<v Speaker 1>looking to throw. Being chased, now throws toward the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>It is caught for the touchdown by Hollywood Brown. That

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<v Speaker 1>made a thirty one to three, and Lamar Jackson was

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<v Speaker 1>done for the day with roughly four minutes to go

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<v Speaker 1>in the third quarter. He only completed ten passes, but

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<v Speaker 1>three were for touchdowns and Lamar ran for ninety seven yards,

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<v Speaker 1>making him the first quarterback in NFL history to have

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<v Speaker 1>two one thousand yard rushing seasons. Michael Vick is the

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<v Speaker 1>only other quarterback to have one. The only drama left involved,

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Green was likely playing in a Bengals uniform for

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<v Speaker 1>the final time. He undered the game with sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>career touchdown catches, one shy of Chad Johnson's team record.

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<v Speaker 1>After a fifty five yard run by Trevion Williams late

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<v Speaker 1>in the third quarter, aj drew back to back pass

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<v Speaker 1>interference penalties, one at the four yard line and one

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<v Speaker 1>in the end zone, putting the Bengals in perfect position

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<v Speaker 1>to try to get him a share of the team record.

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<v Speaker 1>First and goal from the one. After the penalty, AJ

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<v Speaker 1>Green goes out to the right. Brandon Allen is under center,

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<v Speaker 1>the running back is Traveon Williams. Alan takes the snaff,

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<v Speaker 1>fakes a handoff, looking to throw left for AJ Green,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is intercepted by Marcus Peters. It was underthrown

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<v Speaker 1>by Alan, touchback and the Ravens deny the Bengals on

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<v Speaker 1>first in goal from the one. As Marcus Peters stepped

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<v Speaker 1>in front of AJ Green and intercepted that under thrown ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Ravens knew exactly what the Bengals were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do. And now get Aj that touchdown and

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<v Speaker 1>again had thrown off his back foot as he's falling

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<v Speaker 1>away from the line of scrimmage, Calais Campbell providing pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>The ball is underthrown and he never gets it out

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<v Speaker 1>outside the goal line. The whole ball has to cross

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<v Speaker 1>the goal line. It's a touchback. He was open, just

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<v Speaker 1>have to throw it out a back pyline. Yep, you

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<v Speaker 1>under threw it by a margin. Here's Brandon Allen. You

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<v Speaker 1>got the right looks for him, and you know you

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<v Speaker 1>got past interference on a couple of times, and then

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<v Speaker 1>uh uh, did not get the ball out far enough

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<v Speaker 1>for him on on the one so um definitely looking

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<v Speaker 1>at AJ's way, trying to get him a touchdown, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't able to get it to him. Aj was

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<v Speaker 1>targeted six times and did not have a catch, a

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<v Speaker 1>disappointing ending to a remarkable ten year run. Here's teammate

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Bates. I'm sure he's very disappointed because he deserves that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's put so much into the city, into the organization

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<v Speaker 1>over the amount of years um and he deserves to

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<v Speaker 1>get that record, but he has a he has a

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<v Speaker 1>great life ahead of just that record. So I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>he'll go play ball, you know, maybe not here next year,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure he'll have a lot of success because

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<v Speaker 1>I know what he stands for. So I'm very honored

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to play with someone like him and

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<v Speaker 1>also learn, you know, to help my help my career

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<v Speaker 1>out as well. And two plays after the Marcus Peters interception,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens rub the little salt in the Bengals wound

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<v Speaker 1>second and two officially for the Ravens. Hutley turns left,

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<v Speaker 1>hands it off to Dobbins. He runs for the first down,

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<v Speaker 1>gets away from Pratt, sprinting down field to the forty thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty, the ten, and the former Buckeye goes seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two yards for a touchdown as the Ravens continue to

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<v Speaker 1>pour it on. That was part of a one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty yard day for JK. Dobbins and part of

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<v Speaker 1>a four hundred four yard rushing performance by Baltimore. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the most rushing yards ever surrendered by the Bengals by

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<v Speaker 1>a wide margin. The previous high was three thirteen by

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City in nineteen sixty nine, the bengals second year

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<v Speaker 1>of existence. Here's Zach Taylor. It was a challenge. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we were missing a fair amount of guys over there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's no fun, and I don't I don't question

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<v Speaker 1>the effort. Obviously, I haven't seen the tape yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>there was nothing that stood out in that standpoint. We

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<v Speaker 1>ran into a really good football team that can run

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<v Speaker 1>in as well as any team in the league, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had enough long runs there that that really broke

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<v Speaker 1>our backs in some situations. We do expect to be better,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a tough matchup right now. The four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred four rushing yards allowed was almost an NFL record

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<v Speaker 1>for the Super Bowl era. Ironically, the Bengal set that

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<v Speaker 1>record on offense in two thousand when they ran for

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred seven yards against Denver. That was the day

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<v Speaker 1>that Corey Dillon went for two seventy eight. The final

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<v Speaker 1>score Sunday was Baltimore thirty eight Cincinnati three, as the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals managed to score just one field goal in each

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<v Speaker 1>of their two games against Baltimore this year. Here or

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor and Jesse Bates not a rough finale, not

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<v Speaker 1>how we wanted to end, There's no question about that. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly we did some good things the last two weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>and and uh, we just got to continue to build

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<v Speaker 1>from everything good and bad that happened over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of the season and focus on improving over the course

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<v Speaker 1>to the spring. My mindset going into this game was

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<v Speaker 1>just play really hard for all the guys that has

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<v Speaker 1>put so much time into the season. Um, even though

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<v Speaker 1>we lost, got our butt kick tonight. UM, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to focus more on, you know the guys, um

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<v Speaker 1>that continue to fight. You get to two wins back

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<v Speaker 1>to back in week fifteen and sixteen, UM, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>not that's not easy to do. So I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on the negatives. UM. I'm just gonna uh

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<v Speaker 1>go enjoy the you know the teammates tonight, UM, because

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<v Speaker 1>this won't be the same with some Without some of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys, that's won't be in the locker room next year.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals finished four eleven and one. They're locked into

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth pick next year's draft after the Jaguars, Jets, Dolphins,

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<v Speaker 1>who got the Texans pick, and Falcons. Now time for

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<v Speaker 1>postgame analysis with my broadcast partner Dave lapple Lap for

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<v Speaker 1>all the feel good from the last couple of wins,

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of that was squelched in the final game

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<v Speaker 1>of the year against Baltimore just because of how lopsided

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<v Speaker 1>the game was. Do you think it changes anything in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of what Mike Brown might be thinking or really

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<v Speaker 1>the course of action that this team was likely to take.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a great question. I mean, you would

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<v Speaker 1>you would think it might give you some pause because,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this division opponent, your light years away from

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<v Speaker 1>the Baltimore Ravens. It's sixty five to six in the

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<v Speaker 1>two games this year. You convert four for twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>on third down. You know, you don't score touchdown, you

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<v Speaker 1>score six points and eight quarters, and then you give

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<v Speaker 1>up four hundred yards rushing to their offense. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to change and that's not going to go away.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have the same players in the same scheme back.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, yeah, it's it's it's pretty remarkable. Now. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are circumstances. Obviously, you're down three defensive your three

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<v Speaker 1>best defensive tackles, your three best cornerbacks, your three bests everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but you you you think that you'd be able to

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<v Speaker 1>put up a little bit more resistance than what took

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<v Speaker 1>place today. I got out of hand early. It seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like the devastating offensive pass interference followed by the injury

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<v Speaker 1>to the hamstring at Te Higgins on that same play

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<v Speaker 1>took the wind out of the sales of the football team,

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<v Speaker 1>I think pretty dramatically, and it took them a long

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<v Speaker 1>time to rebound and recover, and it was much too

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<v Speaker 1>late and they never did rebound and recover. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I mean, you wonder you wonder about did

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<v Speaker 1>this devastation, this lopsidedness that had offset the feel good

0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.920
<v Speaker 1>part of the of the two game winning streak, because this,

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<v Speaker 1>this was the litmus test they caught Pittsburgh when Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>was in a lull. They weren't playing their best football.

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<v Speaker 1>Houston's just not playing very well at all this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than Deshaun Watson, They're a one man team basically.

0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:13.360
<v Speaker 1>But this football team, they were playing their best football.

0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they were peaking at the right time. And

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<v Speaker 1>this was the litmus tests. Was the brahmin or how

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<v Speaker 1>close will we come? How much better are we than

0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.400
<v Speaker 1>the first time we played against him? Not very much.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been numerous reports in recent days about upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>changes that are expected on the Bengals coaching staff. Former

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<v Speaker 1>Channel five reporter at least Jesse was the first to

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<v Speaker 1>say that offensive line coach Jim Turner, defensive line coach

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Eason, and defensive assistant Gerald Chapman are expected to

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<v Speaker 1>be out. Since then, it has been reported that Bob mcnell,

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<v Speaker 1>the wide receivers coach, in Jamal Singleton, the runnings backs coach,

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<v Speaker 1>are not expected to be back. We do not have

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals confirmation on any of that, but it certainly sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like there is going to be a big shake up,

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<v Speaker 1>even if Zach Taylor is back as head coach. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's interesting how much of it is

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<v Speaker 1>organization driven how much of it is the coach deciding

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<v Speaker 1>that they want to go elsewhere. I'm sure it's a

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<v Speaker 1>combination of both. But there are going to be significant changes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the coaching staff. And as a former player,

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been weird for me to hear right

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<v Speaker 1>before the football game about all these coaches moving on,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys that you were you know, you're you're working

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<v Speaker 1>with all week, you're prepping for the game, everybody's you know,

0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.760
<v Speaker 1>rowing the boat the same way. And this guy might

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<v Speaker 1>be going to Tennessee to coach an offensive line coach Turner,

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<v Speaker 1>that was That's a rumor I heard out there. Coach

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<v Speaker 1>Singleton going to Kentucky, you know, other guys going wherever

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<v Speaker 1>that that that could be. I'm not saying that. It

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<v Speaker 1>certainly didn't help the cause. I think you shouldn't shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>use it as a crutch that you got smoked the

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<v Speaker 1>way you got smoked. There are a lot of reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of it was lining up and putting on

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<v Speaker 1>big boy pads and not being able to have those

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<v Speaker 1>big boy pads on and not two chin straps on.

0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.240
<v Speaker 1>You just got pushed around. I mean, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>physical football game for one team, and that team won handily.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can't use it as crutch. You can't use

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<v Speaker 1>it as an excuse. But it's not helpful, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to have that kind of thing all come out right

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<v Speaker 1>before you go out to play a football game. And

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<v Speaker 1>what was almost certainly his last game in the Bengals uniform,

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Green was targeted six times, did not have a

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<v Speaker 1>catch on first and goal from the one They clearly

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get him the touchdown tying record to pull

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<v Speaker 1>leave an all time with Chad Johnson, and it was there.

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<v Speaker 1>He was running across the field from right to left.

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<v Speaker 1>He was opened in the back left corner of the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone. Brandon Allen had somebody in his face, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get enough on the ball, and it turned into the

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<v Speaker 1>easiest interception that Marcus Peters might ever have. Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it just it just floated out there. It

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<v Speaker 1>floated their for him. I mean it just hung up

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<v Speaker 1>in the air and way short. You know, in a

0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.880
<v Speaker 1>situation like that, you throw it to the back pylon

0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.600
<v Speaker 1>from from a target standpoint, but you make sure if

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not going to be caught, it's out of bounds,

0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.119
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to land in the hands of the opponent.

0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.240
<v Speaker 1>AJ Green didn't even op an opportunity to reverse roles

0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.879
<v Speaker 1>and play defensive back. It was underthrown to that extent.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you couldn't couldn't prevent the interception. So you

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<v Speaker 1>know that that play, that play certainly was a tough one,

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<v Speaker 1>a tough pill to swallow, and to me, it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was almost sad. Uh, you know, to see AJ's

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<v Speaker 1>career wind down the way it did. I mean, when

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<v Speaker 1>I closed my eyes and think of AJ Green, I

0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:34.679
<v Speaker 1>see all kinds of unbelievable circus, acrobatic catches, making guys miss,

0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.800
<v Speaker 1>splitting defenders and running, turning seven yard receptions into seven

0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.640
<v Speaker 1>yard touchdowns. All these things that AJ Green did. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the the last images that you have of

0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:47.920
<v Speaker 1>AJ Green or not those type of images. And you

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<v Speaker 1>got to realize that for a high, high percentage of

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<v Speaker 1>his career he was the other guy. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that was just you know, struck the fear of

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Green into defense of backs league wide. Twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>after AJ went for two hundred twenty seven receiving yards

0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.480
<v Speaker 1>against Baltimore, John Harbaugh famously said, one of these days

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<v Speaker 1>we'll figure out how to cover AJ Green. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be nice if we did it one time before he retires.

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<v Speaker 1>They did it. They did it, no, no, no question

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and uh, I mean it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>a team effort. It was what the Baltimore Ravens did defensively,

0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and it was what the Bengals didn't do offensively or

0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:34.639
<v Speaker 1>couldn't do offensively against that raven defense. For sure. Four

0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:40.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred and four rushing yards allowed, a Bengals record. They

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<v Speaker 1>gave up three fifty in the first three quarters. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a single game Bengals record for most rushing yards allowed.

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<v Speaker 1>The NFL record survived of four twenty six going back

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<v Speaker 1>to nineteen thirty four against the team called the Pittsburgh

0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Pirates by the Detroit Lions, and then the modern record,

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<v Speaker 1>which Cincinnati set offensively four hundred and seven yards in

0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the Corey Dillon two hundred and seventy eight yard game

0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.719
<v Speaker 1>against the Denver Broncos survived by three yards, so they

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<v Speaker 1>avoid the ignominy of giving up more rushing yards in

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<v Speaker 1>the modern era than any other team in history by

0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:18.680
<v Speaker 1>three yards. It's it's obscene, you know, I mean it

0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:24.320
<v Speaker 1>really is. The Ravens rushed for over three thousand yards. Now,

0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.880
<v Speaker 1>they embarrassed a lot of people, but this was an annihilation.

0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, four hundred yards rushing in today's National Football

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<v Speaker 1>League anybody, any era National Football League obviously is rare

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to do that today is mind boggling.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it really is. There. There has to be

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<v Speaker 1>so many factors, so many circumstances that have to align

0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.360
<v Speaker 1>themselves the right way in the universe to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to rush for over four hundred yards in an NFL

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<v Speaker 1>game today, because this is the number one rushing team

0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.399
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL by far, and you know, they've rushed

0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.399
<v Speaker 1>for three hundred on teams, but they've never rushed for

0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:03.080
<v Speaker 1>four hundred on anybody. And I mean, that's that is

0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:06.800
<v Speaker 1>almost impossible to believe happened. But we saw it happen.

0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 1>So it did well for everybody that's been upset the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of weeks because the Bengals have been dropping

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft order. I guess they should be happy

0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:21.640
<v Speaker 1>because they did not drop anymore in the draft order.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like they're going to have the fifth pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a glutton for this kind of stuff. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>searched mock drafts on Sunday morning. They are out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at five mock drafts that I considered to

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<v Speaker 1>be from somewhat reputable sources. I mean, the melk Kuipers

0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.000
<v Speaker 1>of the world are not putting theirs out yet, but

0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.600
<v Speaker 1>these were at least, you know, they looked somewhat legit.

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<v Speaker 1>Two of the five still have them getting Pinney Sewell

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<v Speaker 1>with a fifth pick, and there's probably a good possibility

0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:54.959
<v Speaker 1>that that takes place. Look what happens, Fields goes from

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<v Speaker 1>dropping from the number two quarterback to beating the number

0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.600
<v Speaker 1>one quarterback. I mean, it's a it's a it's an

0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:03.200
<v Speaker 1>instant gratification society. I mean, it's it's flavor of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what are we talking about here? So, uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's possible. There's there's no question that

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<v Speaker 1>that Suol could be could be a Cincinnati Benglin. If

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<v Speaker 1>he is, that's great. Um, if he's not, I have

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<v Speaker 1>no I would have no issue if they traded back

0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:24.719
<v Speaker 1>and accumulated, you know, significant picks and so doing fifty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of first round picks fail fifty percent. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a crapshoot. Crapshoot. So the only way that you

0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:35.479
<v Speaker 1>can increase your odds in that crapshoot is to get

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<v Speaker 1>more numbers, you know. And I've always been one that

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a weakness in a position, draft a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of them. You know, if you if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>put your back on the ball and one of them,

0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:47.879
<v Speaker 1>you're you're gonna get a fifty fifty shot with with

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<v Speaker 1>two of them. So, um, it's happened in franchise history

0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:53.960
<v Speaker 1>before that they've doubled down on a position group here

0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:57.000
<v Speaker 1>recently with a way Hand Fisher and on over two.

0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it happens, but sometimes you go two for two,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times you go one for two, whatever

0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the situation may be. I just have no problem with

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<v Speaker 1>throwing numbers at problem areas in terms of number of picks,

0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:11.920
<v Speaker 1>free agent signings, whatever the case may be. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna overhaul it, overhaul it right. The scenario that I've

0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:19.480
<v Speaker 1>seen where the Bengals could still get Pinay Suel if

0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.479
<v Speaker 1>they are five and they don't trade back, would be

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<v Speaker 1>three quarterbacks going in the top four, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>other guy that gets picked, maybe Jamar Chase, the great

0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver from LSU, Caleb Farley, the top cornerback in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. His name has come up a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think that Pinay Suil will be there

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<v Speaker 1>at number five, And if he's not, I am one

0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:44.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent in agreement with you try to get another

0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:47.159
<v Speaker 1>high pick if you can, particularly if you don't have

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:49.640
<v Speaker 1>to move way back in the first round in order

0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to do it right. I mean, there's a formula that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody you will be following, and the Bengals know what

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.119
<v Speaker 1>that formula is, and the people they're trading with know

0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.720
<v Speaker 1>what that formula is, and who's going to give who's

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.040
<v Speaker 1>going to have the best components you know, within the

0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:05.160
<v Speaker 1>structure of that formula. So, um, you know it's it's

0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:08.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not really rocket science. It's just you know, getting

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 1>getting a fear deal structured. And then uh, it's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>not The draft itself is not scientific. Although I will

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 1>say Seul physically, the more you know see this guy

0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and read about him and hear about him, he is

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 1>a He is an anomaly. I mean, he is a

0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:29.439
<v Speaker 1>generational type guy from a physical standpoint. Um, but you know,

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:33.880
<v Speaker 1>he's just there's there's no there's no guarantees, as they say,

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:35.640
<v Speaker 1>but he's as close as you can get. I think

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:38.360
<v Speaker 1>nobody stands out in a good way when you lose

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.200
<v Speaker 1>thirty eight to three and give up more than five

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:42.879
<v Speaker 1>hundred yards, including more than four hundred rushing yards. But

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:46.119
<v Speaker 1>trey ViOn Williams four carries seventy four yards, including a

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.240
<v Speaker 1>fifty five yard run. I guess if you had to

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 1>pin a star on anybody, he would be it. Yeah,

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 1>And I thought he ran hard, you know it, not

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:55.640
<v Speaker 1>just on the on the one that he busted out

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 1>of there, but even even the runs that he went

0:23:57.720 --> 0:23:59.879
<v Speaker 1>for five or six yards. He finished everything hard. He

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.439
<v Speaker 1>hit it hard. He's got a low pad level. He

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 1>ran with a you know, a good a good lean

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 1>he played, played with that low center of gravity. He's obviously,

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody that's got some talent. Anybody that leads

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.679
<v Speaker 1>the sec and rushing ain't chopped liver, you know. And uh,

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 1>he's got to make sure the thing that two things

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.199
<v Speaker 1>that he has to do in my mind, worked to

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 1>continue to work on blitz, pick up his technique and

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 1>finishing those and then ball security. You know, he is

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 1>sometimes a little loosey goosey with the football. You don't

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:30.879
<v Speaker 1>want to see you don't want to see air, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to see space between the football and the body.

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<v Speaker 1>High and tight, you know, tucket high and tight. And

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that ball security thing is paramount. And because

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's something you have to have. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>be putting the ball in the ground. Austin Cybert made

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty eight yard field goal. I guess that was

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<v Speaker 1>the other good thing for the Bengals. He he went

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<v Speaker 1>six for eight on his field goals, eight for eight

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<v Speaker 1>on his points after after being made the starter in

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<v Speaker 1>place of Randy Bullock. The two messes where his too

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<v Speaker 1>longest kicks forty nine in fifty five. He obviously did okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think he was so good that the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals can confidently think, all right, we've definitely got our

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<v Speaker 1>kicker for next year. Yeah, I agree with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's going to be a lot of research done

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<v Speaker 1>in that regard in terms of what's out there in

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<v Speaker 1>free agency and uh, you know what's out there in general,

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.719
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of kickers out there, and then potentially,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, late in the draft or whatever the case

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<v Speaker 1>may be, college free agent prospect. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a kicking competition, and how many kickers

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<v Speaker 1>will be involved in that kicking competition. Only one guy knows.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Darren Simmons, and he probably doesn't know yet. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think what you should do now, let's go home,

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<v Speaker 1>have a nice dinner, relax tomorrow, and then at six

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<v Speaker 1>pm tomorrow I'll fill in for Lance McAlister and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this game in the season for three hours.

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<v Speaker 1>How's that sound. Yeah, we'll beat it up for three

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>more hours Dan, you know, and uh, and then just

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 1>start talking about what's going to happen in the offseason.

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Here comes, here comes the off season upon us quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope the Bengals get it right in the

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<v Speaker 1>draft this year and address offensive and defensive line and

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:12.120
<v Speaker 1>free agency if it's possible to do so, and see

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:15.199
<v Speaker 1>if we can build upon, build upon the way the

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<v Speaker 1>season finished. Other than this final game, the last month

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 1>of the season, I thought there were signs of life

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully that continues in the off season. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>Booth Podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light

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<v Speaker 1>and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. Now time

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<v Speaker 1>for this week's fun Facts segment, where you get to

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<v Speaker 1>know the person under the pads. Time for some fun

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<v Speaker 1>facts with Ta Maurice Higgins better known as T Higgins. T.

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<v Speaker 1>Your grandfather on your mother's side was Maurice. Your mom

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<v Speaker 1>added the tough to get your name. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>if she always planned to call you T when she

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<v Speaker 1>named you? No, I think, if I remember correctly, she

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>told me that my grandma, her mother, could not say

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:05.160
<v Speaker 1>my full name, so they just thought thought of Tea,

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>and that's what they've been calling me ever since you

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<v Speaker 1>were a kid. On the first day of school, did

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<v Speaker 1>the teachers sometimes read off to Maurice? And if so,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you react? Every time we had first day

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<v Speaker 1>of school, they would read off my first my full name,

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and they would always say at Rome, either Tamarius or

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow Ice. I'm just like, uh, you can just call

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>me Tea every time. So we're chatting with T Higgins.

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<v Speaker 1>You're from oak Ridge, Tennessee, home of the famed oak

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:39.679
<v Speaker 1>Ridge Boys country music quartet. I would sing a little Elvira,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to ruin your day. What did

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>young T Higgins like to do growing up in oak Ridge?

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 1>For me, it was just you know, running around. My

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>friends used to ride bikes everywhere. You know, I lived

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>a good maybe three miles from the Boys and Girls Club.

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>He used to ride out bikes there all the time.

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 1>He's the ride eye bikes to McDonald's. Um just you know,

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 1>going to summer camp. You know, those those are the

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>times that you know, moments that always cherish and uh,

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>some of my boys we just something we still talk

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>about it to still to this day and you know,

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 1>we just think about those times and just laugh and

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>kick about it. Are you aware that oak Ridge is

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<v Speaker 1>known as the atomic city? Yep? And do you know why?

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Uh wasn't It was like part of the you know,

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 1>they helped make the atomic bomb, right, correct city, That's correct.

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>The Manhattan Project, which was the secret project for the

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 1>development of the first nuclear weapons, was basically based in

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<v Speaker 1>oak Ridge, Tennessee. Yeah. I was like, uh, you know,

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>oaker is being so small and in Tennessee. You know,

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>you don't really see too many towns in the state

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>of Tennessee being you know, naturally known, and you know,

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>just just seeing that. I was always thought when I

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>was young, I was like, oh, we're on the map,

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Like everybody knows about oak Ridge. Now. It's just you know,

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>things like that that we always you know, laughed about.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing fun acts with t Higgins. This legend has

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<v Speaker 1>it you would not be playing football today if not

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<v Speaker 1>for hot Wheels, the little toy cars. Can you explain

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>how hot Wheels pave the way for you becoming an

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>NFL football player? Yeah, so pot one of days, um,

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think all was around maybe five six,

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and it was real hot on one game, and I

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>was like, I am not doing this. I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go home. So in the middle of

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>the game, I went up in the stands and sat

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<v Speaker 1>with my aunt in the middle of the game. And

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<v Speaker 1>then next thing, you know, she she say, she says,

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<v Speaker 1>I will, I will go to Walmart and buy you

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>two hot wheel cars if you go back down and

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>play and score touchdow And sure enough I went back

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 1>down and scored on like the second play. And after

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the game I totally take me straight to Walmart and

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 1>got my hot You were bribed by your aunt who

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>promised to give you hot wheels for touchdowns. What did

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you do with the hot wheels? Did you have little

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>tracks and race them or did you just like admire

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 1>them and trade them and stuff like that. I really

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>just admoded them, just play with them on my own,

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, just going back and forth with the cars.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, me being at a young age just having

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>fun with those those cars is you know, it was

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun. And now me growing up, I'm

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>in love with cars, and I you know, I see

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<v Speaker 1>why has your hot wheels collection been preserved? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Mom's never gonna throw those out, right, She can't. That's great.

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>We're doing fun Facts with Tee Hagan's Tea. Back in April,

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you spoke about your relationship with your mom in The

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<v Speaker 1>Player's Tribune and a story titled Mama's Boy, and it

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<v Speaker 1>began with you describing the day she was shot when

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<v Speaker 1>you were six years old and in kindergarten. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember about it and the days that followed. You know,

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I remember just going to school of the day and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, me being in class, sitting there doing my work,

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<v Speaker 1>and they say, you know, they caught us, the teacher

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>and they say, I'm being checked out. And the teacher

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>told me I was being checked out. No one knew.

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>She didn't know. So I'm like, see, all guys, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>checked out, and you know, just me being excited just

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>because I'm getting checked out of school. Um. I get

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<v Speaker 1>to the front office, you know, my sister's death. She's crying,

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just wondering, like what's going on. I'm still

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit excited that I'm being checked out of school.

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to be in school that day, be

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>getting the car, and she, you know, she breaks the

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>news to me and I just start busting out crying, like,

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>what's going on, What's wrong? What's wrong? His MoMA gonna

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>be okay? You you know, we get to the house,

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>her house where she was shot at. She was already gone,

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>flew in the helicopter and I'm just wanting to go

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>see my mom. You know, I tried to cross the

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>yellow tape that my sister just grab me. You know,

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you can't go over there. I just wanted to see

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>my mom at that point, and you know, it was

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>it was a tough time for me. Then they told

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>me that she got shot in the head, that you know,

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>she might not make it. You never know. Um, it

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>was just you know, me having a thought, you know,

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>losing my mom. It was just you know, heartbreaking. Even

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>though she was you know, in and out of the house,

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>you you know, doing drugs at the time, it still

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 1>was heartbreaking to lose. You know, my mom grew such

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>a strong connection. Guy works in mysterious ways. She's here

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>now and ever since then, we've been growing our connection

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>stronger and stronger, and cantybody break that behind that we have.

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 1>It's an amazing story. Your mom overcame her addiction. She's

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>been sober for more than thirteen years. She doesn't shy

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>away from talking about the experience. How did her example

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>help mold you? Seeing a way how she went about things,

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, stepping up and you know, talking about her

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>her past and you know, seeing that how strong she was.

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>You know that that can't compare to anything that's happened

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>in my life. You know, So when when something's going bad,

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>going downhill in my life, I just think about that moment,

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>how how strong she was and how how passionate, how

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>passionate she was to you know, talk about her past

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and and show people that it's possible to overcome things

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>like that. Just me seeing her do that, I just

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>think about like, I'm like, yeah, this is nothing Like

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I could talk about this and NB okay and move

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>on to the next thing. And you know, so that's

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.239
<v Speaker 1>is how I go about things. Now. You've got an

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>older sister, Kiki, who was a basketball player. She played

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>on an NCAA tournament team at Middle Tennessee State. Describe

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>her game in high school. She did, She was a

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>post and she told me that she she she did

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of pension down in the post, you know,

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to you know, get girls to you know, move weird

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and throw them off the game basically, and you know,

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>she was really dominant. And then when she got to MTSU,

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 1>she actually got there. You know, uh ended up having

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a kids, so she came back home for a few years,

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, to raise her child, and then she went

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>back to school and went back to MTSU and you know,

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>she had an outstanding career to um she uh, I

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>think it's the three point she she had thirteen threes

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>in the game and I'm that that day. I'm just like,

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>thirteen three thirteen threes. Like I said, Susy, when did

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>you become a three point shooter? First of all? And

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>it's still to this day she thinks she can give

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>me one on one. Was there a point in your

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>childhood where she did that? She used to beat you

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>up playing hoops? Yeah, she was. You know, she was

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>always bigger than me. So but now I think I

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>get her. Yes, it's nothing. Now we're chatting with T. Higgins.

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<v Speaker 1>You went to Clemson, You won a national championship as

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.839
<v Speaker 1>a sophomore, made it back to the National championship game

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>as a junior. For somebody that has never seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>can you describe the football facility at Clemson? Man that

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>facility there. Man's it's probably one of the best in

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the country, you know, now that everybody's updating their facilities

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>now obviously the Chima outdo you know other I'll do

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Clemson now, but man, you got the locker room is

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 1>is really crazy. Um you know, we got a bowl

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>of allie in there. We got all types of other

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>games like ping pong. We got a golfing letter which

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 1>I was in a lot so I'm not really good

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>at hitting with a driver, so I practiced my love

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.399
<v Speaker 1>six iron practices. My swing with a six iron got

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 1>good at that. You got the slide going down from

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 1>the meeting rooms to the locker room. The weight room

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>is huge. I mean they literally have everything that you

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 1>would need in there. And my favorite part of the

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 1>whole facility is the pau bistro, which is like our cafeteria.

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>So when you go in there, you just you can

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 1>literally put your order in on the iPad, tell them

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>what you want and it'll be ready for you and

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>like but maybe five to ten minutes. And that was

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 1>probably my favorite part because you had we had so

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 1>many different options, you know. Um, So yeah, the facilities

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>is one of a con Definitely, do people actually use

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>the slide or is it just for shell I use

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 1>it a few times, but really mostly the defense uses it.

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know now, but when I was there,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly the defense uses because their their meeting rooms is

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<v Speaker 1>like right there, and our meeting rooms is like on

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 1>the other side. What a stessas you can just walk

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>down the steps. But yeah, defense used it most of

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 1>the time. So me coming back, you know, going into

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the locker room, you just see all those defensive guys

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 1>are sliding and sometimes they so if you got on

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>your football pants, it's like real slick. So they'd be

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>sliding real fast and they try to land and they

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 1>just bust it. It would be the funniest thing ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell you. One of the great traditions in college football

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 1>is the Clemson team entrance for a home game of death.

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<v Speaker 1>Valley describe what's been called the most exciting twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>seconds in college football. Let me let me start here.

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<v Speaker 1>My freshman year, I'm excited to run down the hill,

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<v Speaker 1>this and that, and one of the players go ta

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>do not fall. Whatever you do, do not fall. It'll

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 1>be the most embarrassing time here at Clemson. So I'm like, okay, okay,

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 1>so I literally touched the rock, go down the hill

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 1>really slow, like and then usually like this is like

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>a little part where you can like jump. I didn't jump.

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I was not following it was it wasn't happening. But

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 1>over the over the time, you know, me going down

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>getting used to it, I started jumping really high. I

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 1>think it is the most the most twenty five seconds

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.760
<v Speaker 1>of college football because you know, it's it's just a feeling.

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 1>That's that's surreal with all the fans, the student sections

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>right there on the east side, and it's just it's

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:27.760
<v Speaker 1>just a great feeling. Clemson has been called wide receiver university.

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Who's the best wide receiver in Clemson history. That's tough.

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:36.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of grace to come through that. You know,

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 1>you got you got nuke, Sammy Martavis, Bryan, Mike Williams, myself.

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's a lot of grace to come

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.919
<v Speaker 1>through that. I can't really just pinpoint one um, but

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>we're definitely receiver you no question about it. So on

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 1>draft night, we learned that Aj Green was your sports

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>hero and the Bengals were your favorite team. What was

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>it like to be drafted by your team? Just getting

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that call from since on the second day of draft night.

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>H it was, you know, a dream come true obviously

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 1>just to get drafted, but for it to become be

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>from my favorite team. It's uh, it's it's you know,

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>it's just it was crazy. I'm like, mom, Cincinnati's calling,

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>so answer, it's coach Taylor. The phone's you ready to

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>be a biggle like hell, yeah, let's do this. Um.

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, just me, I didn't even think

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 1>about the whole thing with Aj being here, but it

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 1>hit me, like, you know, after I did all the interviews,

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, man, AJ is on my team now,

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 1>like this is crazy. I looked up to me this man,

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 1>he's my role model and all that. Um. But you know,

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the transition, you know, it's been great. He's helped He's

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 1>been helping me a lot um, you know, so it's

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>been it's been good. A few more fun facts for

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Key Haggans. You were two time Mister Football in Tennessee.

0:38:56.560 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>You were a finalist for Mister Basketball in Tennessee. What

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:04.439
<v Speaker 1>sport are you lousy at? Let's talk about baseball real quick.

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 1>It was baseball season in boys club days, and it

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>was my first season where the coaches do not pitch

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>in the player's pitch, and I'm literally up the bat

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and I kid you not. I got hit with the

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 1>ball on the pitch, and in the middle of the game,

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I said, Mom, I'm done, clicked through the bat down,

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 1>took off my hummet and I said, mom, let's go,

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 1>We'll leave it. I'm done, and we left. One hit

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 1>by pitch was all it took. It was all it took.

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm done. There seems to be a history of this.

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean with football, when the weather was hot, you

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>walked up into the stands. Baseball, you get hit by

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>a pitch, you bald. Come on, I mean, hey, I

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what I wanted to do. It all worked

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>out in the end. What do you like to spend

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>your money on? Oh that's a good question. You know.

0:39:56.520 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Growing up, I didn't have much to spend it on. Um.

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:04.240
<v Speaker 1>So but now I'm you know, I'm making some money. Um,

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I buy I mean, I have a car. Obviously,

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I like to buy a lot of closing shoes. Right now,

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm real big, I'm starting getting real big in the

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:18.239
<v Speaker 1>shoe game. So I would I would say shoes. And

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been you know, helping. I've been buying

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of toys and my dog as well. You

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:26.959
<v Speaker 1>occasionally wear cool looking glasses in interviews. Do they have

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>any magnifying power or they strictly for shell Oh? No,

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 1>those are my actual glasses. Um. Right now, I have

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>my my contact so I try to wear my contacts

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>more often. But you know, at the beginning of the season, Um,

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have my contacts yet, so it was just

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I had to wear my glasses and a lot of

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 1>people thought there was the show, but they're they're actually

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 1>really all right. A few more fun facts. Are you

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>an avid fan of another sport? And if so, what

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 1>team do you fall up? Yeah? I want I'm a

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>big fan of basketball. Um. You know, I was a

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>basketball star and I followed the Brooklyn Nets now because

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, Kevin Durant is my favorite player, and you know, um,

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>so hopefully now that you know, I can actually do

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>something there in the off season. You know, I was

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>in college, I couldn't do nothing because I was in school.

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>But now actually I can do something. Hopefully they allow

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>fans up there in New York and I can go

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>watch the game. You know, of course side seats or

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>if they was to come, like, you know, to and

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 1>play Charlotte or Memphis, I can go to one of

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>those games and you know, just go to see him

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 1>play in person. So all right, T last thing, describe

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:35.440
<v Speaker 1>reaching out to Chad Johnson for the permission to wear

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 1>number eighty five. At first, you know, um, I wanted

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>number fifteen. You know, I just wanted to keep five

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 1>in my number. You know, that's been my number since

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 1>high school. And I wanted them to fifteen, but another

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 1>guy had it. Or I wanted the number two. You know,

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you know that equals five like four plus one, so

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 1>you'd be like fourteen or something like that. But they

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:58.399
<v Speaker 1>didn't have any of those numbers available and or any

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:00.320
<v Speaker 1>team numbers. They didn't have any of those of itable.

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>So you know, they told me that they had eighty

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 1>eighty five and another number. Um so I was like

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:08.760
<v Speaker 1>eighty five. I was just asking some of my friends,

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 1>like when numbers you think I should get and it

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 1>was like and get eighty five, like man, you know,

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Chad Johnson had it. He was you know, otocinko, it's otocinco.

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:19.879
<v Speaker 1>He's he's a he's a Cincinnati great bro. He was like, man,

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>just just just do it. So I was like, all right.

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, you know what, since you know,

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>since he's a great I think I should just you know,

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>ask mission out of respect. You know what he's done.

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Who played the same position. So, you know, at the

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 1>end of them on Twitter, I was like, man, how

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 1>would you feel you know about me wearing you know,

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the Great eighty five. He was like, man, I'll be

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 1>thrilled for you to wear it, man, and this and that,

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, I know you're gonna be great and

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 1>know you're gonna do treat the city well, and you know,

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>just do right by the number. And you know, I

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 1>was just able to go out there. He let me

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>get it and you know, I mean, having a good

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 1>season so far, you're definitely doing right by the number.

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Congratulations at a tremend rookie season. Thanks so much for

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the time, Happy holidays, and best to lect the rest

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:08.279
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