1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The although we've come to the 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: end of the road addition, as the Bengals end the 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty season with a downer getting run over by 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. Thirty eight to three coming up, you'll 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: hear radio replays, postgame comments from players and coaches, and 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: in depth analysis from Dave Lapham and in this week's 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: fun Facts segment, It's honestly one of my all time 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: favorite episodes of this segment as we go in depth 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: with rookie wide receiver t Higgins. 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So yes, Since episodes of this podcast 25 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: are always named for song titles or lyrics, it's only 26 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: a matter of time before you get a staying Live episode. 27 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: Heard enough of me singing, I thought, so let's get 28 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: to football. The Ravens started the game with a twelve 29 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: play drive that took nearly seven minutes off the clock. 30 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: It ended with a Justin Tucker field goal that made 31 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: it three nothing Baltimore. The Bengals answered with what looked 32 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: like a huge gain on their third play from scrimmage. 33 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: Three receivers stretch out to the left, one out to 34 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: the right. It's third down and eight shotguns snap allan 35 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: with a quick throat caught by Tehiggins right springing up 36 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. Penalty flags down. He's to 37 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: the fifty. The Baltimore forty five then goes down at 38 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens forty and he appears to be hurt. See 39 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: Higgins grabbing at his hamstring after catching a pass that 40 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: breaks the team record for catches by a rookie, But 41 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: there are penalty flags down. If it's against Cincinnati, it 42 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: won't count, and te Higgins appears to be hurt. Well, 43 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: he missed some practice time this week with a hamstring problem. 44 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: It could be a pick offensive pass offense by Janyard 45 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: penalty third down. Yeah, they called the the OLDPI. That's 46 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: what allowed Tehiggins to break free. And then he exacerbated 47 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: that hamstring issue that he had. He was limited in 48 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: practices earlier in the week with a hamstring problem, and 49 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: now it's worse and he's still down on the field 50 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: getting attention from the medical staff. It wipes out the catch. 51 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: And if the hamstring is in fact the injury and 52 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: he does not continue today, he will not break Chris 53 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: Collinsworth's franchise record. Instead, they share the record. His teeth 54 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: finished a fantastic rookie year with sixty seven catches for 55 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: nine hundred eight yards. Here's quarterback Brandon Allen on the 56 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: loss of a forty one yard gain and more importantly, 57 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 1: one of the team's best weapons on a snowball from there. 58 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: You know, anytime you get a big play like that, 59 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: that one gets called back in two, you lose teeth 60 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: for the rest of the game with the hamstring. I 61 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: believe it was, so you know, like we said earlier, 62 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: it definitely took some win out of ourselves. But you know, 63 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: as a as a good offense, you have to be 64 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: able to come back from that and execute. And it's 65 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: it's always been next mentality. So you know, anytime it 66 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: was a really good player like Tea for a game 67 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: is tough. But you know, guys, I thought really have 68 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: been stepping up all year and continue to do that, 69 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: and we just weren't able to get it done. No, 70 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: they weren't. Meanwhile, Baltimore scored again on its second possession 71 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: out of a pistol formation. Jackson fakes a handoff, does 72 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: a piro wet now throws it deep down the middle 73 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: of the field. Boykin catches it at the five and 74 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: runs into the end zone with Lashawn Simms trailing him 75 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: a forty three yard touchdown pass Lamar Jackson to Miles Boykin. 76 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: At the end of the first quarter, the score was 77 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: ten nothing and total yards were one fifty two to four, 78 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: But early in the second quarter, the Bengals defense provided 79 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: a golden opportunity. Third down in five, the Ravens at 80 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: their own forty one, Andrews goes in motion. Lamar Jackson 81 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: back to throw, looking looking pump fakes, throws back again 82 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: and this time it was intercepted a team. Davis Gather, 83 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: with his first career picked Marcus at the forty eight 84 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: yard line and the Bengals come up with a takeaway 85 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: and Margus Hunt got it again. Marcus Hunt, that's his 86 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: second chip, isn't that series a keen. Davis Gaither's first 87 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: career pick gave the Bengals the ball at the Baltimore 88 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: forty seven. They gained three yards on three plays and 89 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: had to punt. Baltimore took over at the seven and 90 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 1: basically put the game away. This has been a sixteen play, 91 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: seventy five yard drive that's taken eight and a half 92 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: minutes off the clock. Third down in eight, Lamar back 93 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: to throw, chucks it toward the middle of the end zone, 94 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 1: a sliding attempt and a touchdown catch for Hollywood Brown 95 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: beat Jayalen Davis very easily. It was seventeen nothing before 96 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals even had a first down. They got three 97 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: in a row on their final drive of the first 98 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: half and got on the scoreboard thirty seven seconds left 99 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 1: in the half. Harris will snap, Huber will hold. Huber 100 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: looks back at the kicker, now turns his head, catches 101 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: the snap, puts the ball all down. The kick is 102 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: blasted by Cybert and it is good. It was seventeen 103 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: three at a half, but quickly became a route when 104 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens scored on their first two drives of the 105 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: third quarter to by two. Formation. Now one of the 106 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 1: receivers to the left motions into the backfield. That's Dobbins. 107 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson gives it to JK. Dobbins and he runs 108 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: into the end zone, scoring a touchdown for the sixth 109 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: consecutive game in his rookie year. Lamar Jackson rolls right, 110 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: looking to throw. Being chased, now throws toward the end zone. 111 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: It is caught for the touchdown by Hollywood Brown. That 112 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: made a thirty one to three, and Lamar Jackson was 113 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: done for the day with roughly four minutes to go 114 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: in the third quarter. He only completed ten passes, but 115 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: three were for touchdowns and Lamar ran for ninety seven yards, 116 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: making him the first quarterback in NFL history to have 117 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: two one thousand yard rushing seasons. Michael Vick is the 118 00:06:54,800 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: only other quarterback to have one. The only drama left involved, 119 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: AJ Green was likely playing in a Bengals uniform for 120 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: the final time. He undered the game with sixty five 121 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: career touchdown catches, one shy of Chad Johnson's team record. 122 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: After a fifty five yard run by Trevion Williams late 123 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: in the third quarter, aj drew back to back pass 124 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: interference penalties, one at the four yard line and one 125 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: in the end zone, putting the Bengals in perfect position 126 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: to try to get him a share of the team record. 127 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: First and goal from the one. After the penalty, AJ 128 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: Green goes out to the right. Brandon Allen is under center, 129 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: the running back is Traveon Williams. Alan takes the snaff, 130 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: fakes a handoff, looking to throw left for AJ Green, 131 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: and it is intercepted by Marcus Peters. It was underthrown 132 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: by Alan, touchback and the Ravens deny the Bengals on 133 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: first in goal from the one. As Marcus Peters stepped 134 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: in front of AJ Green and intercepted that under thrown ball. 135 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens knew exactly what the Bengals were 136 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: trying to do. And now get Aj that touchdown and 137 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 1: again had thrown off his back foot as he's falling 138 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: away from the line of scrimmage, Calais Campbell providing pressure. 139 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: The ball is underthrown and he never gets it out 140 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: outside the goal line. The whole ball has to cross 141 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: the goal line. It's a touchback. He was open, just 142 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: have to throw it out a back pyline. Yep, you 143 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: under threw it by a margin. Here's Brandon Allen. You 144 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: got the right looks for him, and you know you 145 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: got past interference on a couple of times, and then 146 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: uh uh, did not get the ball out far enough 147 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: for him on on the one so um definitely looking 148 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: at AJ's way, trying to get him a touchdown, and 149 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't able to get it to him. Aj was 150 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: targeted six times and did not have a catch, a 151 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: disappointing ending to a remarkable ten year run. Here's teammate 152 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: Jesse Bates. I'm sure he's very disappointed because he deserves that. 153 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: He's put so much into the city, into the organization 154 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: over the amount of years um and he deserves to 155 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: get that record, but he has a he has a 156 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: great life ahead of just that record. So I'm sure 157 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: he'll go play ball, you know, maybe not here next year, 158 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: and I'm sure he'll have a lot of success because 159 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: I know what he stands for. So I'm very honored 160 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: to be able to play with someone like him and 161 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: also learn, you know, to help my help my career 162 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: out as well. And two plays after the Marcus Peters interception, 163 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens rub the little salt in the Bengals wound 164 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: second and two officially for the Ravens. Hutley turns left, 165 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: hands it off to Dobbins. He runs for the first down, 166 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: gets away from Pratt, sprinting down field to the forty thirty, 167 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: the twenty, the ten, and the former Buckeye goes seventy 168 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: two yards for a touchdown as the Ravens continue to 169 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: pour it on. That was part of a one hundred 170 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: and sixty yard day for JK. Dobbins and part of 171 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: a four hundred four yard rushing performance by Baltimore. That's 172 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: the most rushing yards ever surrendered by the Bengals by 173 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: a wide margin. The previous high was three thirteen by 174 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: Kansas City in nineteen sixty nine, the bengals second year 175 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: of existence. Here's Zach Taylor. It was a challenge. I mean, 176 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: we were missing a fair amount of guys over there. 177 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: That's that's no fun, and I don't I don't question 178 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: the effort. Obviously, I haven't seen the tape yet, but 179 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: there was nothing that stood out in that standpoint. We 180 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: ran into a really good football team that can run 181 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: in as well as any team in the league, and 182 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: they had enough long runs there that that really broke 183 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: our backs in some situations. We do expect to be better, 184 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: but it was a tough matchup right now. The four 185 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: hundred four rushing yards allowed was almost an NFL record 186 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl era. Ironically, the Bengal set that 187 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: record on offense in two thousand when they ran for 188 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: four hundred seven yards against Denver. That was the day 189 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: that Corey Dillon went for two seventy eight. The final 190 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: score Sunday was Baltimore thirty eight Cincinnati three, as the 191 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: Bengals managed to score just one field goal in each 192 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: of their two games against Baltimore this year. Here or 193 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor and Jesse Bates not a rough finale, not 194 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: how we wanted to end, There's no question about that. Um. 195 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: Certainly we did some good things the last two weeks, 196 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: and and uh, we just got to continue to build 197 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: from everything good and bad that happened over the course 198 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: of the season and focus on improving over the course 199 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: to the spring. My mindset going into this game was 200 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: just play really hard for all the guys that has 201 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: put so much time into the season. Um, even though 202 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: we lost, got our butt kick tonight. UM, I just 203 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: want to focus more on, you know the guys, um 204 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: that continue to fight. You get to two wins back 205 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: to back in week fifteen and sixteen, UM, and that's 206 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: not that's not easy to do. So I don't want 207 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: to focus on the negatives. UM. I'm just gonna uh 208 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: go enjoy the you know the teammates tonight, UM, because 209 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: this won't be the same with some Without some of 210 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: those guys, that's won't be in the locker room next year. 211 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: The Bengals finished four eleven and one. They're locked into 212 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: the fifth pick next year's draft after the Jaguars, Jets, Dolphins, 213 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: who got the Texans pick, and Falcons. Now time for 214 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: postgame analysis with my broadcast partner Dave lapple Lap for 215 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: all the feel good from the last couple of wins, 216 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: A lot of that was squelched in the final game 217 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: of the year against Baltimore just because of how lopsided 218 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: the game was. Do you think it changes anything in 219 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: terms of what Mike Brown might be thinking or really 220 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: the course of action that this team was likely to take. 221 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: That's a that's a great question. I mean, you would 222 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: you would think it might give you some pause because, 223 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, this division opponent, your light years away from 224 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. It's sixty five to six in the 225 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: two games this year. You convert four for twenty five 226 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: on third down. You know, you don't score touchdown, you 227 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: score six points and eight quarters, and then you give 228 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: up four hundred yards rushing to their offense. That's not 229 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: going to change and that's not going to go away. 230 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna have the same players in the same scheme back. 231 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: So um, yeah, it's it's it's pretty remarkable. Now. You know, 232 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: there are circumstances. Obviously, you're down three defensive your three 233 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: best defensive tackles, your three best cornerbacks, your three bests everything, 234 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: but you you you think that you'd be able to 235 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: put up a little bit more resistance than what took 236 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: place today. I got out of hand early. It seemed 237 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: like the devastating offensive pass interference followed by the injury 238 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: to the hamstring at Te Higgins on that same play 239 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: took the wind out of the sales of the football team, 240 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: I think pretty dramatically, and it took them a long 241 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: time to rebound and recover, and it was much too 242 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: late and they never did rebound and recover. So um, 243 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, you wonder you wonder about did 244 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: this devastation, this lopsidedness that had offset the feel good 245 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: part of the of the two game winning streak, because this, 246 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: this was the litmus test they caught Pittsburgh when Pittsburgh 247 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: was in a lull. They weren't playing their best football. 248 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: Houston's just not playing very well at all this year. 249 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: Other than Deshaun Watson, They're a one man team basically. 250 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: But this football team, they were playing their best football. 251 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: I mean, they were peaking at the right time. And 252 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: this was the litmus tests. Was the brahmin or how 253 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: close will we come? How much better are we than 254 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: the first time we played against him? Not very much. 255 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: There have been numerous reports in recent days about upcoming 256 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: changes that are expected on the Bengals coaching staff. Former 257 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: Channel five reporter at least Jesse was the first to 258 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: say that offensive line coach Jim Turner, defensive line coach 259 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: Nick Eason, and defensive assistant Gerald Chapman are expected to 260 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: be out. Since then, it has been reported that Bob mcnell, 261 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: the wide receivers coach, in Jamal Singleton, the runnings backs coach, 262 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: are not expected to be back. We do not have 263 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: Bengals confirmation on any of that, but it certainly sounds 264 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: like there is going to be a big shake up, 265 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: even if Zach Taylor is back as head coach. Yeah, 266 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting how much of it is 267 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: organization driven how much of it is the coach deciding 268 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: that they want to go elsewhere. I'm sure it's a 269 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: combination of both. But there are going to be significant changes, 270 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, in the coaching staff. And as a former player, 271 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: that would have been weird for me to hear right 272 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: before the football game about all these coaches moving on, 273 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: these guys that you were you know, you're you're working 274 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: with all week, you're prepping for the game, everybody's you know, 275 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: rowing the boat the same way. And this guy might 276 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: be going to Tennessee to coach an offensive line coach Turner, 277 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: that was That's a rumor I heard out there. Coach 278 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: Singleton going to Kentucky, you know, other guys going wherever 279 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: that that that could be. I'm not saying that. It 280 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: certainly didn't help the cause. I think you shouldn't shouldn't 281 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: use it as a crutch that you got smoked the 282 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: way you got smoked. There are a lot of reasons, 283 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: and most of it was lining up and putting on 284 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: big boy pads and not being able to have those 285 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: big boy pads on and not two chin straps on. 286 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: You just got pushed around. I mean, it was a 287 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: physical football game for one team, and that team won handily. 288 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: So you can't use it as crutch. You can't use 289 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: it as an excuse. But it's not helpful, you know, 290 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: to have that kind of thing all come out right 291 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: before you go out to play a football game. And 292 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: what was almost certainly his last game in the Bengals uniform, 293 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: AJ Green was targeted six times, did not have a 294 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: catch on first and goal from the one They clearly 295 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: wanted to get him the touchdown tying record to pull 296 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: leave an all time with Chad Johnson, and it was there. 297 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: He was running across the field from right to left. 298 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: He was opened in the back left corner of the 299 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: end zone. Brandon Allen had somebody in his face, didn't 300 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: get enough on the ball, and it turned into the 301 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: easiest interception that Marcus Peters might ever have. Yeah, that's true. 302 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: I mean it just it just floated out there. It 303 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: floated their for him. I mean it just hung up 304 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: in the air and way short. You know, in a 305 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: situation like that, you throw it to the back pylon 306 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: from from a target standpoint, but you make sure if 307 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: it's it's not going to be caught, it's out of bounds, 308 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: it's not going to land in the hands of the opponent. 309 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: AJ Green didn't even op an opportunity to reverse roles 310 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: and play defensive back. It was underthrown to that extent. 311 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: You know, you couldn't couldn't prevent the interception. So you 312 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: know that that play, that play certainly was a tough one, 313 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: a tough pill to swallow, and to me, it was 314 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: it was almost sad. Uh, you know, to see AJ's 315 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: career wind down the way it did. I mean, when 316 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: I closed my eyes and think of AJ Green, I 317 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: see all kinds of unbelievable circus, acrobatic catches, making guys miss, 318 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: splitting defenders and running, turning seven yard receptions into seven 319 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: yard touchdowns. All these things that AJ Green did. And uh, 320 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, the the last images that you have of 321 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: AJ Green or not those type of images. And you 322 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: got to realize that for a high, high percentage of 323 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: his career he was the other guy. He was the 324 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: guy that was just you know, struck the fear of 325 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: AJ Green into defense of backs league wide. Twenty fifteen, 326 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: after AJ went for two hundred twenty seven receiving yards 327 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: against Baltimore, John Harbaugh famously said, one of these days 328 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: we'll figure out how to cover AJ Green. It would 329 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: be nice if we did it one time before he retires. 330 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: They did it. They did it, no, no, no question 331 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: about it, and uh, I mean it was it was 332 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: a team effort. It was what the Baltimore Ravens did defensively, 333 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: and it was what the Bengals didn't do offensively or 334 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: couldn't do offensively against that raven defense. For sure. Four 335 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: hundred and four rushing yards allowed, a Bengals record. They 336 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: gave up three fifty in the first three quarters. That 337 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: was a single game Bengals record for most rushing yards allowed. 338 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: The NFL record survived of four twenty six going back 339 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: to nineteen thirty four against the team called the Pittsburgh 340 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: Pirates by the Detroit Lions, and then the modern record, 341 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: which Cincinnati set offensively four hundred and seven yards in 342 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: the Corey Dillon two hundred and seventy eight yard game 343 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 1: against the Denver Broncos survived by three yards, so they 344 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: avoid the ignominy of giving up more rushing yards in 345 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: the modern era than any other team in history by 346 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: three yards. It's it's obscene, you know, I mean it 347 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: really is. The Ravens rushed for over three thousand yards. Now, 348 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: they embarrassed a lot of people, but this was an annihilation. 349 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: I mean, four hundred yards rushing in today's National Football 350 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: League anybody, any era National Football League obviously is rare 351 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: to be able to do that today is mind boggling. 352 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it really is. There. There has to be 353 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: so many factors, so many circumstances that have to align 354 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: themselves the right way in the universe to be able 355 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: to rush for over four hundred yards in an NFL 356 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: game today, because this is the number one rushing team 357 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: in the NFL by far, and you know, they've rushed 358 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: for three hundred on teams, but they've never rushed for 359 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: four hundred on anybody. And I mean, that's that is 360 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: almost impossible to believe happened. But we saw it happen. 361 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: So it did well for everybody that's been upset the 362 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks because the Bengals have been dropping 363 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: in the draft order. I guess they should be happy 364 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: because they did not drop anymore in the draft order. 365 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: It looks like they're going to have the fifth pick. 366 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm a glutton for this kind of stuff. I actually 367 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: searched mock drafts on Sunday morning. They are out there. 368 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: I looked at five mock drafts that I considered to 369 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: be from somewhat reputable sources. I mean, the melk Kuipers 370 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: of the world are not putting theirs out yet, but 371 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: these were at least, you know, they looked somewhat legit. 372 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: Two of the five still have them getting Pinney Sewell 373 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: with a fifth pick, and there's probably a good possibility 374 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: that that takes place. Look what happens, Fields goes from 375 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: dropping from the number two quarterback to beating the number 376 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: one quarterback. I mean, it's a it's a it's an 377 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: instant gratification society. I mean, it's it's flavor of the week. 378 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: I mean, what are we talking about here? So, uh yeah, 379 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's possible. There's there's no question that 380 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: that Suol could be could be a Cincinnati Benglin. If 381 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: he is, that's great. Um, if he's not, I have 382 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: no I would have no issue if they traded back 383 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 1: and accumulated, you know, significant picks and so doing fifty 384 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: percent of first round picks fail fifty percent. I mean, 385 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: it's a crapshoot. Crapshoot. So the only way that you 386 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 1: can increase your odds in that crapshoot is to get 387 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: more numbers, you know. And I've always been one that 388 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: if you have a weakness in a position, draft a 389 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: couple of them. You know, if you if you don't 390 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: put your back on the ball and one of them, 391 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: you're you're gonna get a fifty fifty shot with with 392 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: two of them. So, um, it's happened in franchise history 393 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: before that they've doubled down on a position group here 394 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: recently with a way Hand Fisher and on over two. 395 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it happens, but sometimes you go two for two, 396 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: a lot of times you go one for two, whatever 397 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: the situation may be. I just have no problem with 398 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: throwing numbers at problem areas in terms of number of picks, 399 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: free agent signings, whatever the case may be. If you're 400 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: gonna overhaul it, overhaul it right. The scenario that I've 401 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: seen where the Bengals could still get Pinay Suel if 402 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 1: they are five and they don't trade back, would be 403 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks going in the top four, and then the 404 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: other guy that gets picked, maybe Jamar Chase, the great 405 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver from LSU, Caleb Farley, the top cornerback in 406 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: the draft. His name has come up a few times. 407 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: So I don't think that Pinay Suil will be there 408 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: at number five, And if he's not, I am one 409 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: hundred percent in agreement with you try to get another 410 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: high pick if you can, particularly if you don't have 411 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: to move way back in the first round in order 412 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: to do it right. I mean, there's a formula that 413 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: everybody you will be following, and the Bengals know what 414 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: that formula is, and the people they're trading with know 415 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: what that formula is, and who's going to give who's 416 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: going to have the best components you know, within the 417 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: structure of that formula. So, um, you know it's it's 418 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: it's not really rocket science. It's just you know, getting 419 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: getting a fear deal structured. And then uh, it's certainly 420 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: not The draft itself is not scientific. Although I will 421 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: say Seul physically, the more you know see this guy 422 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: and read about him and hear about him, he is 423 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: a He is an anomaly. I mean, he is a 424 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: generational type guy from a physical standpoint. Um, but you know, 425 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: he's just there's there's no there's no guarantees, as they say, 426 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: but he's as close as you can get. I think 427 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: nobody stands out in a good way when you lose 428 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: thirty eight to three and give up more than five 429 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: hundred yards, including more than four hundred rushing yards. But 430 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: trey ViOn Williams four carries seventy four yards, including a 431 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: fifty five yard run. I guess if you had to 432 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: pin a star on anybody, he would be it. Yeah, 433 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: And I thought he ran hard, you know it, not 434 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: just on the on the one that he busted out 435 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: of there, but even even the runs that he went 436 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: for five or six yards. He finished everything hard. He 437 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: hit it hard. He's got a low pad level. He 438 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: ran with a you know, a good a good lean 439 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: he played, played with that low center of gravity. He's obviously, 440 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, somebody that's got some talent. Anybody that leads 441 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: the sec and rushing ain't chopped liver, you know. And uh, 442 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: he's got to make sure the thing that two things 443 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: that he has to do in my mind, worked to 444 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: continue to work on blitz, pick up his technique and 445 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: finishing those and then ball security. You know, he is 446 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: sometimes a little loosey goosey with the football. You don't 447 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: want to see you don't want to see air, you 448 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: don't want to see space between the football and the body. 449 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: High and tight, you know, tucket high and tight. And 450 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: make sure that ball security thing is paramount. And because 451 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: you know that's something you have to have. You can't 452 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: be putting the ball in the ground. Austin Cybert made 453 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: a thirty eight yard field goal. I guess that was 454 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: the other good thing for the Bengals. He he went 455 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: six for eight on his field goals, eight for eight 456 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: on his points after after being made the starter in 457 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: place of Randy Bullock. The two messes where his too 458 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: longest kicks forty nine in fifty five. He obviously did okay, 459 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: but I don't think he was so good that the 460 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: Bengals can confidently think, all right, we've definitely got our 461 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: kicker for next year. Yeah, I agree with you. I 462 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: think there's going to be a lot of research done 463 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: in that regard in terms of what's out there in 464 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: free agency and uh, you know what's out there in general, 465 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 1: there's a lot of kickers out there, and then potentially, 466 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, late in the draft or whatever the case 467 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: may be, college free agent prospect. I mean, I think 468 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a kicking competition, and how many kickers 469 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: will be involved in that kicking competition. Only one guy knows. 470 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: That's Darren Simmons, and he probably doesn't know yet. All Right, 471 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: I think what you should do now, let's go home, 472 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: have a nice dinner, relax tomorrow, and then at six 473 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: pm tomorrow I'll fill in for Lance McAlister and we'll 474 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: talk about this game in the season for three hours. 475 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: How's that sound. Yeah, we'll beat it up for three 476 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: more hours Dan, you know, and uh, and then just 477 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: start talking about what's going to happen in the offseason. 478 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: Here comes, here comes the off season upon us quickly, 479 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: and I hope the Bengals get it right in the 480 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: draft this year and address offensive and defensive line and 481 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: free agency if it's possible to do so, and see 482 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: if we can build upon, build upon the way the 483 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: season finished. Other than this final game, the last month 484 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: of the season, I thought there were signs of life 485 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: and hopefully that continues in the off season. The Bengals 486 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: Booth Podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light 487 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. Now time 488 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: for this week's fun Facts segment, where you get to 489 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: know the person under the pads. Time for some fun 490 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: facts with Ta Maurice Higgins better known as T Higgins. T. 491 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: Your grandfather on your mother's side was Maurice. Your mom 492 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: added the tough to get your name. Do you know 493 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: if she always planned to call you T when she 494 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: named you? No, I think, if I remember correctly, she 495 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: told me that my grandma, her mother, could not say 496 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: my full name, so they just thought thought of Tea, 497 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: and that's what they've been calling me ever since you 498 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: were a kid. On the first day of school, did 499 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: the teachers sometimes read off to Maurice? And if so, 500 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: how did you react? Every time we had first day 501 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: of school, they would read off my first my full name, 502 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: and they would always say at Rome, either Tamarius or 503 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: tomorrow Ice. I'm just like, uh, you can just call 504 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: me Tea every time. So we're chatting with T Higgins. 505 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: You're from oak Ridge, Tennessee, home of the famed oak 506 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: Ridge Boys country music quartet. I would sing a little Elvira, 507 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: but I don't want to ruin your day. What did 508 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: young T Higgins like to do growing up in oak Ridge? 509 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 1: For me, it was just you know, running around. My 510 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: friends used to ride bikes everywhere. You know, I lived 511 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: a good maybe three miles from the Boys and Girls Club. 512 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: He used to ride out bikes there all the time. 513 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: He's the ride eye bikes to McDonald's. Um just you know, 514 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: going to summer camp. You know, those those are the 515 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: times that you know, moments that always cherish and uh, 516 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: some of my boys we just something we still talk 517 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: about it to still to this day and you know, 518 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: we just think about those times and just laugh and 519 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: kick about it. Are you aware that oak Ridge is 520 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: known as the atomic city? Yep? And do you know why? 521 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: Uh wasn't It was like part of the you know, 522 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: they helped make the atomic bomb, right, correct city, That's correct. 523 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: The Manhattan Project, which was the secret project for the 524 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: development of the first nuclear weapons, was basically based in 525 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: oak Ridge, Tennessee. Yeah. I was like, uh, you know, 526 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: oaker is being so small and in Tennessee. You know, 527 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: you don't really see too many towns in the state 528 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: of Tennessee being you know, naturally known, and you know, 529 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: just just seeing that. I was always thought when I 530 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: was young, I was like, oh, we're on the map, 531 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: Like everybody knows about oak Ridge. Now. It's just you know, 532 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: things like that that we always you know, laughed about. 533 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: We're doing fun acts with t Higgins. This legend has 534 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: it you would not be playing football today if not 535 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: for hot Wheels, the little toy cars. Can you explain 536 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: how hot Wheels pave the way for you becoming an 537 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: NFL football player? Yeah, so pot one of days, um, 538 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, I think all was around maybe five six, 539 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: and it was real hot on one game, and I 540 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: was like, I am not doing this. I can't do it. 541 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: I want to go home. So in the middle of 542 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: the game, I went up in the stands and sat 543 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: with my aunt in the middle of the game. And 544 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: then next thing, you know, she she say, she says, 545 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: I will, I will go to Walmart and buy you 546 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: two hot wheel cars if you go back down and 547 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: play and score touchdow And sure enough I went back 548 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: down and scored on like the second play. And after 549 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: the game I totally take me straight to Walmart and 550 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: got my hot You were bribed by your aunt who 551 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: promised to give you hot wheels for touchdowns. What did 552 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: you do with the hot wheels? Did you have little 553 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: tracks and race them or did you just like admire 554 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: them and trade them and stuff like that. I really 555 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: just admoded them, just play with them on my own, 556 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, just going back and forth with the cars. 557 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: You know, me being at a young age just having 558 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: fun with those those cars is you know, it was 559 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And now me growing up, I'm 560 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: in love with cars, and I you know, I see 561 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: why has your hot wheels collection been preserved? Oh yeah, 562 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: Mom's never gonna throw those out, right, She can't. That's great. 563 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: We're doing fun Facts with Tee Hagan's Tea. Back in April, 564 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: you spoke about your relationship with your mom in The 565 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: Player's Tribune and a story titled Mama's Boy, and it 566 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: began with you describing the day she was shot when 567 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: you were six years old and in kindergarten. What do 568 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: you remember about it and the days that followed. You know, 569 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: I remember just going to school of the day and 570 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, me being in class, sitting there doing my work, 571 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: and they say, you know, they caught us, the teacher 572 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: and they say, I'm being checked out. And the teacher 573 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: told me I was being checked out. No one knew. 574 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: She didn't know. So I'm like, see, all guys, I'm 575 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: checked out, and you know, just me being excited just 576 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: because I'm getting checked out of school. Um. I get 577 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: to the front office, you know, my sister's death. She's crying, 578 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: and I'm just wondering, like what's going on. I'm still 579 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: a little bit excited that I'm being checked out of school. 580 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: I don't have to be in school that day, be 581 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: getting the car, and she, you know, she breaks the 582 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: news to me and I just start busting out crying, like, 583 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: what's going on, What's wrong? What's wrong? His MoMA gonna 584 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: be okay? You you know, we get to the house, 585 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: her house where she was shot at. She was already gone, 586 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: flew in the helicopter and I'm just wanting to go 587 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: see my mom. You know, I tried to cross the 588 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: yellow tape that my sister just grab me. You know, 589 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: you can't go over there. I just wanted to see 590 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: my mom at that point, and you know, it was 591 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: it was a tough time for me. Then they told 592 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: me that she got shot in the head, that you know, 593 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: she might not make it. You never know. Um, it 594 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: was just you know, me having a thought, you know, 595 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: losing my mom. It was just you know, heartbreaking. Even 596 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: though she was you know, in and out of the house, 597 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: you you know, doing drugs at the time, it still 598 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: was heartbreaking to lose. You know, my mom grew such 599 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: a strong connection. Guy works in mysterious ways. She's here 600 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: now and ever since then, we've been growing our connection 601 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: stronger and stronger, and cantybody break that behind that we have. 602 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: It's an amazing story. Your mom overcame her addiction. She's 603 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: been sober for more than thirteen years. She doesn't shy 604 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: away from talking about the experience. How did her example 605 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: help mold you? Seeing a way how she went about things, 606 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: you know, stepping up and you know, talking about her 607 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: her past and you know, seeing that how strong she was. 608 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: You know that that can't compare to anything that's happened 609 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: in my life. You know, So when when something's going bad, 610 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: going downhill in my life, I just think about that moment, 611 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: how how strong she was and how how passionate, how 612 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: passionate she was to you know, talk about her past 613 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: and and show people that it's possible to overcome things 614 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: like that. Just me seeing her do that, I just 615 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: think about like, I'm like, yeah, this is nothing Like 616 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: I could talk about this and NB okay and move 617 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: on to the next thing. And you know, so that's 618 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 1: is how I go about things. Now. You've got an 619 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: older sister, Kiki, who was a basketball player. She played 620 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: on an NCAA tournament team at Middle Tennessee State. Describe 621 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: her game in high school. She did, She was a 622 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: post and she told me that she she she did 623 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: a lot of pension down in the post, you know, 624 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: to you know, get girls to you know, move weird 625 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: and throw them off the game basically, and you know, 626 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: she was really dominant. And then when she got to MTSU, 627 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: she actually got there. You know, uh ended up having 628 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: a kids, so she came back home for a few years, 629 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, to raise her child, and then she went 630 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: back to school and went back to MTSU and you know, 631 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: she had an outstanding career to um she uh, I 632 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: think it's the three point she she had thirteen threes 633 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: in the game and I'm that that day. I'm just like, 634 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: thirteen three thirteen threes. Like I said, Susy, when did 635 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: you become a three point shooter? First of all? And 636 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: it's still to this day she thinks she can give 637 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: me one on one. Was there a point in your 638 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: childhood where she did that? She used to beat you 639 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: up playing hoops? Yeah, she was. You know, she was 640 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: always bigger than me. So but now I think I 641 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: get her. Yes, it's nothing. Now we're chatting with T. Higgins. 642 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: You went to Clemson, You won a national championship as 643 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: a sophomore, made it back to the National championship game 644 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: as a junior. For somebody that has never seen it, 645 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: can you describe the football facility at Clemson? Man that 646 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: facility there. Man's it's probably one of the best in 647 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: the country, you know, now that everybody's updating their facilities 648 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: now obviously the Chima outdo you know other I'll do 649 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: Clemson now, but man, you got the locker room is 650 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: is really crazy. Um you know, we got a bowl 651 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: of allie in there. We got all types of other 652 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: games like ping pong. We got a golfing letter which 653 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: I was in a lot so I'm not really good 654 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: at hitting with a driver, so I practiced my love 655 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: six iron practices. My swing with a six iron got 656 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: good at that. You got the slide going down from 657 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: the meeting rooms to the locker room. The weight room 658 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: is huge. I mean they literally have everything that you 659 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: would need in there. And my favorite part of the 660 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: whole facility is the pau bistro, which is like our cafeteria. 661 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: So when you go in there, you just you can 662 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: literally put your order in on the iPad, tell them 663 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: what you want and it'll be ready for you and 664 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: like but maybe five to ten minutes. And that was 665 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: probably my favorite part because you had we had so 666 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: many different options, you know. Um, So yeah, the facilities 667 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: is one of a con Definitely, do people actually use 668 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: the slide or is it just for shell I use 669 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: it a few times, but really mostly the defense uses it. 670 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know now, but when I was there, 671 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: mostly the defense uses because their their meeting rooms is 672 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: like right there, and our meeting rooms is like on 673 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: the other side. What a stessas you can just walk 674 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: down the steps. But yeah, defense used it most of 675 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: the time. So me coming back, you know, going into 676 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: the locker room, you just see all those defensive guys 677 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: are sliding and sometimes they so if you got on 678 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: your football pants, it's like real slick. So they'd be 679 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: sliding real fast and they try to land and they 680 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: just bust it. It would be the funniest thing ever. 681 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: Tell you. One of the great traditions in college football 682 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: is the Clemson team entrance for a home game of death. 683 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: Valley describe what's been called the most exciting twenty five 684 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: seconds in college football. Let me let me start here. 685 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: My freshman year, I'm excited to run down the hill, 686 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 1: this and that, and one of the players go ta 687 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: do not fall. Whatever you do, do not fall. It'll 688 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: be the most embarrassing time here at Clemson. So I'm like, okay, okay, 689 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: so I literally touched the rock, go down the hill 690 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: really slow, like and then usually like this is like 691 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: a little part where you can like jump. I didn't jump. 692 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: I was not following it was it wasn't happening. But 693 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: over the over the time, you know, me going down 694 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: getting used to it, I started jumping really high. I 695 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: think it is the most the most twenty five seconds 696 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 1: of college football because you know, it's it's just a feeling. 697 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: That's that's surreal with all the fans, the student sections 698 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: right there on the east side, and it's just it's 699 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 1: just a great feeling. Clemson has been called wide receiver university. 700 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 1: Who's the best wide receiver in Clemson history. That's tough. 701 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: It's a lot of grace to come through that. You know, 702 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: you got you got nuke, Sammy Martavis, Bryan, Mike Williams, myself. 703 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a lot of grace to come 704 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,919 Speaker 1: through that. I can't really just pinpoint one um, but 705 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: we're definitely receiver you no question about it. So on 706 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: draft night, we learned that Aj Green was your sports 707 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: hero and the Bengals were your favorite team. What was 708 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: it like to be drafted by your team? Just getting 709 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: that call from since on the second day of draft night. 710 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: H it was, you know, a dream come true obviously 711 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: just to get drafted, but for it to become be 712 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: from my favorite team. It's uh, it's it's you know, 713 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: it's just it was crazy. I'm like, mom, Cincinnati's calling, 714 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: so answer, it's coach Taylor. The phone's you ready to 715 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: be a biggle like hell, yeah, let's do this. Um. 716 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: And then you know, just me, I didn't even think 717 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: about the whole thing with Aj being here, but it 718 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: hit me, like, you know, after I did all the interviews, 719 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, man, AJ is on my team now, 720 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: like this is crazy. I looked up to me this man, 721 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: he's my role model and all that. Um. But you know, 722 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: the transition, you know, it's been great. He's helped He's 723 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: been helping me a lot um, you know, so it's 724 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: been it's been good. A few more fun facts for 725 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: Key Haggans. You were two time Mister Football in Tennessee. 726 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: You were a finalist for Mister Basketball in Tennessee. What 727 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 1: sport are you lousy at? Let's talk about baseball real quick. 728 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: It was baseball season in boys club days, and it 729 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: was my first season where the coaches do not pitch 730 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: in the player's pitch, and I'm literally up the bat 731 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: and I kid you not. I got hit with the 732 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: ball on the pitch, and in the middle of the game, 733 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: I said, Mom, I'm done, clicked through the bat down, 734 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: took off my hummet and I said, mom, let's go, 735 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: We'll leave it. I'm done, and we left. One hit 736 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: by pitch was all it took. It was all it took. 737 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm done. There seems to be a history of this. 738 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean with football, when the weather was hot, you 739 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: walked up into the stands. Baseball, you get hit by 740 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: a pitch, you bald. Come on, I mean, hey, I 741 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: didn't know what I wanted to do. It all worked 742 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: out in the end. What do you like to spend 743 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: your money on? Oh that's a good question. You know. 744 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: Growing up, I didn't have much to spend it on. Um. 745 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 1: So but now I'm you know, I'm making some money. Um, 746 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, I buy I mean, I have a car. Obviously, 747 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: I like to buy a lot of closing shoes. Right now, 748 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm real big, I'm starting getting real big in the 749 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: shoe game. So I would I would say shoes. And 750 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, I've been you know, helping. I've been buying 751 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: a lot of toys and my dog as well. You 752 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,959 Speaker 1: occasionally wear cool looking glasses in interviews. Do they have 753 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: any magnifying power or they strictly for shell Oh? No, 754 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: those are my actual glasses. Um. Right now, I have 755 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: my my contact so I try to wear my contacts 756 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: more often. But you know, at the beginning of the season, Um, 757 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: I didn't have my contacts yet, so it was just 758 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: I had to wear my glasses and a lot of 759 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: people thought there was the show, but they're they're actually 760 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: really all right. A few more fun facts. Are you 761 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: an avid fan of another sport? And if so, what 762 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: team do you fall up? Yeah? I want I'm a 763 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: big fan of basketball. Um. You know, I was a 764 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: basketball star and I followed the Brooklyn Nets now because 765 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: you know, Kevin Durant is my favorite player, and you know, um, 766 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: so hopefully now that you know, I can actually do 767 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: something there in the off season. You know, I was 768 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: in college, I couldn't do nothing because I was in school. 769 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: But now actually I can do something. Hopefully they allow 770 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: fans up there in New York and I can go 771 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: watch the game. You know, of course side seats or 772 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: if they was to come, like, you know, to and 773 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: play Charlotte or Memphis, I can go to one of 774 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: those games and you know, just go to see him 775 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: play in person. So all right, T last thing, describe 776 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: reaching out to Chad Johnson for the permission to wear 777 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: number eighty five. At first, you know, um, I wanted 778 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: number fifteen. You know, I just wanted to keep five 779 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: in my number. You know, that's been my number since 780 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: high school. And I wanted them to fifteen, but another 781 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: guy had it. Or I wanted the number two. You know, 782 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: you know that equals five like four plus one, so 783 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: you'd be like fourteen or something like that. But they 784 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: didn't have any of those numbers available and or any 785 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 1: team numbers. They didn't have any of those of itable. 786 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: So you know, they told me that they had eighty 787 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: eighty five and another number. Um so I was like 788 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 1: eighty five. I was just asking some of my friends, 789 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: like when numbers you think I should get and it 790 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: was like and get eighty five, like man, you know, 791 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: Chad Johnson had it. He was you know, otocinko, it's otocinco. 792 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 1: He's he's a he's a Cincinnati great bro. He was like, man, 793 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: just just just do it. So I was like, all right. 794 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: So I was like, you know what, since you know, 795 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: since he's a great I think I should just you know, 796 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: ask mission out of respect. You know what he's done. 797 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: Who played the same position. So, you know, at the 798 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: end of them on Twitter, I was like, man, how 799 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: would you feel you know about me wearing you know, 800 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: the Great eighty five. He was like, man, I'll be 801 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: thrilled for you to wear it, man, and this and that, 802 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: and he's like, I know you're gonna be great and 803 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: know you're gonna do treat the city well, and you know, 804 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: just do right by the number. And you know, I 805 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: was just able to go out there. He let me 806 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: get it and you know, I mean, having a good 807 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: season so far, you're definitely doing right by the number. 808 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: Congratulations at a tremend rookie season. Thanks so much for 809 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: the time, Happy holidays, and best to lect the rest 810 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: of the year you too. 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