WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Defensive Adjustments 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.960 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:19.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:23.759 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:34.840 Star in Frisco Lives and now your hosts Isaiah stand Back, 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:40.600 heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeomans. Oh it's 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:44.319 beautiful Thursday here at the Star in Frisco. Glad you're 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:49.160 with the Talking Cowboys as we preview the Washington football 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.239 team and the Dallas Cowboys come up here on Sunday. 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:56.680 Moving in to week six of the NFL campaign. Glad 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:00.400 you're with caw Yeoman's, Isaiah stand Back, Phillips and mister 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.839 My Harrison joining you here on Talking Cowboys and Boys. 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.200 Uh we We've got a lot to get into in 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.199 terms of this defense for the Cowboys going up against 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:14.080 this Washington offense. But I mean, I say, I asked 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.600 the question before even went on, and he said, how 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.280 do you break down this Washington offense? Because they're pretty bad? 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.520 And I want to do you think do you think uh, 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.040 talking the football team Washington is saying that same thing 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.520 about the Cowboys defense at this point right now or 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.240 vice versa. Oh yeah, I think so. You think it's 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.360 gonna be just kind of tough to evaluate. There's a 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.479 high probability of that, there's a high probability to just say, um, 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.800 I'm not sure how they feel about it, but uh, 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.640 we're gonna find out. We're gonna find out. New York 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:48.920 Giants thirty oh, a couple weeks ago. You had to 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:54.360 bring that up, right, Rob, You gotta take care of 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.600 our own house, you know what I mean? Fromorrow show? 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:03.440 Speaking of ter tomorrow, say it with your chest Friday, 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.680 we'll say it with our chest here on Thursday as well. 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.480 We did a little bit of that yesterday on Wednesday. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.920 But probably we did get a look at the Cowboys yesterday, 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:13.880 even though it was a later look, a little different 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:17.440 schedule with the shorter week and kind of what was 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:22.160 mentioned as a jog through style practice by Mike McCarthy yesterday. 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.240 But there was a new name up on that up 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:28.960 on the injury list this week that did not practice yesterday, 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.359 and once again it was a neck issue, Alden Smith 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:36.720 on the injury report yesterday, Rob, anything else to update 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:41.120 on him so far, Well, we'll see what I can do. 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.960 If anything today, I believe he got checked for a 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:48.120 stinger during the game against Arizona, came back in the game. 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.560 I think he finished the game, so we'll just see 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.920 the status is. I think he played forty something snaps 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.919 in the game. You would definitely hope to have him 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.560 in this game. He's been your best pass rusher. A 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.600 little bit of good news for the Cowboys. There's not 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.640 a whole lot of good news at all period, especially 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.800 on the entry front, but Cam Irving did get back 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:10.040 into practice. He's still on ir but if he's activated 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.639 this week, that gives them some better an option at 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.400 one of the tackle spots. With Brandon Knight out and 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.200 of course Tyrant Smith and Lyle Collins outs, there's just 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.160 a there's a teeny bit of good news. So you're 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.560 saying there's a chance, I say there's a chance, Lloyd. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:30.520 There's a glimmer sunshine there, and it's against the team 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:35.240 that isn't very good in terms of allowing sacks per game. 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:39.640 They've allowed twenty four sacks over the first six weeks 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:43.160 of the season and they're tied for thirtieth in the category. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.200 So you get Randy Gregory back, but Alden Smith is 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.480 now a question. Mark, guys, are we gonna see a 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:54.680 resurgence of this Cowboys defense line in terms of trying 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.040 to get to the quarterback and pressure Kyle Allen or 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.840 so than we've seen them really pressure any quarterback far 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:04.760 this season. I'll take a take somebody at one of 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:09.480 these old R and B group they said, please please please, 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.360 I hope so, man, we need a spark. Man. We 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.240 obviously thought that was gonna be against the Giants, and 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.080 we did not try to spark against the Giants. Um, 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.000 we hope that is if there's ever if there's any 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.560 opportunities on our on our season, our remaining season, this 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.120 is this team. This is a team that you have 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:29.200 to get going up against. UM against inexperienced quarterback who 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.320 holds the ball too long, whos the ball into coverage. UM, 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.320 this this is the greatest opportunity that we've had to date. UM, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.560 you know, taking aside from the point that we thought 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.400 the dance were too So I hope, God, I hope 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.839 so please please Yeah, I mean we've been waiting for 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:45.920 a spark. We've been we need a flame. We have 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.640 full on forest fire right now. From my defense, because 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.600 of the way that they've been giving up numbers. It's 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.360 like it's getting to the point each and every week 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:59.039 and it's like a bad joke continuously to say that 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.360 our defense is not any good and that the numbers 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.040 are there to prove it. But we talk about this 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.200 team in Washington and how they're the gift horse for 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.800 us and trying to get this defense on track. It's 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.320 hard for us again to to hang our hat on 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.640 anything that we've seen to say, Okay, this is the 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.400 one thing that we do better than anybody else, and 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.280 we haven't found that yet. Just as a collective, as 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:27.480 a group, Um, I'm looking for this secondary because obviously 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:31.320 when you look at Washington and their receivers, there are 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.640 not a lot of weapons there and so coverage communications, 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:38.560 things like that. Man, just just doing your job, as 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.520 Isaiah keeps warding out to these guys, do your job, 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:46.039 be assignment, sound, the linebackers, late Vandersch coming back, and 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.400 just getting this defense lined up properly. Look, this is 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:52.000 the game for us. This is obviously the game that 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:56.520 the defense should have some good vibes. Can I just 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.039 take it back real quick to twenty fifteen at Kyle 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:04.960 Field in College. Last two weeks, it's Kyler Murray. Now 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.359 it's Kyle Allen. I watched them both play for my 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.640 beloved Aggies in twenty fifteen and Derek Henry smoked him 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:15.000 for two hundred and thirty six yards. Aggie's lost that game. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.880 Now they got two quarterbacks back to back weeks in 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.760 the NFL playing My Aggie's still looking for a national championship. 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.280 We recruit well, we just don't seem to finish it. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.840 But I've seen Kyle Allen on the field somewhat uh, 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.039 like you guys said, like Isaiah said, he's he's got 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:34.120 talent um, he's and he's familiar with the system because 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:37.000 he came from Carolina. Scott Turner their OC and Washington 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:41.440 did two. But he is turnover prone. They haven't, you know, 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.479 we kind of said this about Daniel Jones. They didn't. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.440 You know, they don't go down the field a lot. 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:50.640 McLaren's their biggest weapon. But again, like it's it's it's 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:53.239 like Heckma said, it's about self scout. It's about taking 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.560 care of your own business and your assignments. Because we 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.640 can talk about how they don't have a lot of weapons, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:02.719 but they the Cowboys continue to give up these backbreaking plays. 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.320 If you take away three plays of sixty plus yards 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.840 last week, I think Kyler Murray's got forty eight passing 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.720 yards and they've got just over two hundred total yards 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.720 in the game. It was three plays that really just 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.720 crushed the Cowboys defense. And that's that's on them. I mean, 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.720 that's not so much the weapons that Arizona has. To 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.520 some degree, it is, but it's about your assignments. And 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.920 that's that's what it comes down to for me. You know, 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.520 more than the matchups in this game, are they going 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.800 to prevent themselves from giving up these big plays. A 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.920 lot of its communication in the secondary, it's gap assignments 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.080 in the run game, like we saw the last touchdown 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:38.720 of the game. It's all those things that they got 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:42.000 to take care of in house themselves and Kyle and 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.240 before we proceed, there was a glimmer of hope last week, right, 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.240 I think we all can admit that. Please tell us, 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.560 Please tell well, in the first quarter, in the first quarter, 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.120 the first part of the game, I mean, the defensive 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.080 really well until until we started, you know, dropping the 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.320 cookies on the ground again and giving them their office 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.960 the ball back. So I mean there was there was hope. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.920 I mean, I'm being real real. I know we've been 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.640 dragging this team, dragging this side of the ball all season, 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.960 but that first quarter was the best this defense has 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.360 looked all year long. And they looked like a defense 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.200 that was collectively coming together and playing well. Vander esh 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.440 was getting guys lined up seemingly, guys were clear on communication. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.840 Everybody was playing sound assignment defense. And then we just 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:22.840 fumbled the ball on the opposing side. Once we got 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.080 the ball back, and they demoralized everybody, right, and then 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.160 you saw the old Cowboys defense come back. When I say, oh, what, 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.960 I mean like the week before. So I mean I 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:32.800 think there is hope. I think they have something to 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.000 build on. It's not like they haven't shown up at all. 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.000 They did show up, but they reverted back to what 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.719 they were before. Sean Lee was on the conference call 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.920 yesterday with the media and he said he's hoping to 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.440 get back from my r soon, but he said, to 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.959 your point, we've had stretches or we'll do a good 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.040 job against the run, but not the past. We have 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.200 not put together a full game yet and really not 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.160 even close. I mean I think they came close to 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:01.079 putting together a good half last week. Yeah, but they 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.839 certainly didn't. They started the game strong, that's been that's 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.920 definitely an improvement, they certainly didn't finish the game strong. 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.720 And they can't allow they would never say this publicly, 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.040 I'm not saying that's the case, but they can't allow 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:16.840 offensive mistakes from their teammates to impact their confidence level 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.640 when they get handed short fields, because that's got to 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.680 be demoralizing. But they can't let it affect them. And 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.640 I was talking upstairs with Nicki and kind of about 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:29.920 that yesterday. Is we can blame the turnovers for poor 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.880 field position and short fields for your defense as much 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.680 as you want, because that does put your defense in 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:39.079 a tough situation. Absolutely. However, there's gotta be a time 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.400 and there's got to be a place where your defense 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.000 bows up and your defense grabs your helmet off the 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.560 sideline says we've got a job to do, and heck, 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.600 we really just haven't seen that yet. And is that 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.679 something that we need to see once or twice for 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:58.000 this defense to finally gain a little bit of confidence. No, 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:02.760 I think, man, that's a good question, and I believe 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.480 that collectively we should just you know, look, relaxing tech 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.720 note of the fact that this defense they haven't had 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.800 a preseason. They didn't have any OTAs, they didn't have 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:16.080 any of that right everyone else also, But I think 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.200 when you have a new coach that comes in, that's 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.600 teaching a new scheme and you don't have an opportunity 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.800 to draw it up and go out there and practice 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.760 and execute it. You can't just draw it up and 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:27.640 expect for gods to take the field and do it 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.880 exactly the way that you envisioned it. And I think 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.960 a lot of the teaching process it's just taking a 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:38.000 lot longer. Look, no one is going to give them 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.439 a mulligan for COVID nineteen, but I think that if 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.240 you just look at the football in general and how 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.400 gods get prepared for the season, I think that that's 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.760 where this defense is. Isaiah has a point really about 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.600 the first quarter. They played a lot better than people 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.200 are giving them credit for. All Right, some of the yes, 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.240 the big plays plagued them. You don't want to see 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.920 a guy go one hundred and sixty one yards. But 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.720 at the same time, where we had been seeing them 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:09.559 just getting misused in certain and certain coverages, they corrected 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:13.960 those all right. So look, hopefully as we continue to go, 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.000 and I don't want to give them any excuse, but 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.640 I just want to point out the obvious that week 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.520 by week they should start taking those strides to do 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.600 what you said, Kyle bow up and make stops. And 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.920 I just think collectively as a group, as Sean Lee said, look, 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.400 putting a game together where they stop the run and 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:35.559 they stop the pass, they're due for that kind of performance, 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.800 but it can it's you know, when your offense is 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.400 turning the ball over, it's two players that can that 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.800 can cost you the game. And that's really I know, 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.120 I say, you broke these down, but you know, Trayvon Diggs, 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.120 whatever happened there with communication, letting Hopkins run free. It's 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.800 a sixty yard game, and then what looked like cover 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.720 three with Daryl Worley. He stops his feet and now 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.880 he's gone, Kirk has gone down the field you give. 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.520 I mean, that's that's fourteen points right there. You put 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.480 up ten offensively because you can't get out of your 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:09.400 own way, you know, the defense, it's just you take 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.000 away the big players. Yeah, it's really it is bad. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.560 It is bad. But if they can take them, those away. 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.360 It's it's it's solid enough to win with if your 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.599 offense takes care of the ball. Hey, Rob, let me 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:21.400 let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Rob, 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.520 Like a lot of those communication eras that you see 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.720 a lot of that would have been corrected in preseason also, 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.640 I mean, and you would have had four games to 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:34.120 correct those communication eras. They're just it's just playing that 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:39.640 live on actual games that that hold weight. Yes and no, heck, 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:41.959 yes and no. And And the reason why I say 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.120 that is because those those guys that were referring to 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:48.800 those starters, realistically over a duration of an entire preseason, 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.960 um it's you know, preseason schedule, they they might have 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:56.720 played four quarters, maybe maybe throughout the whole preseason, um, 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:58.560 had had they played in that just because starters are 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.360 usually held out of that guys that are they're knowingly 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.040 going to be on the roster where I'll see a 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:08.200 big issue as as a former player looking in, I 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:09.920 don't see a lot of continuity. And I think I've 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.000 mentioned this before, and I think it might be undervalued 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.240 in terms are just from the fan perspective, and there's 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.840 not enough being put on it. These guys look like 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.400 they show up to work. It looks like, seriously, this 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.959 defense looks like they show up to work, sit in meetings, 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.959 go out to practice, and then go home. And you know, 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:28.720 when you look at it from the outside, that's your job. 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.160 But when we talk about football, and we talk about 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.520 the NFL, in college, whatever else you want to talk to, 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.240 the better, the best teams out there are teams that 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.679 spend the most amount of time together. And you're not 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:40.680 going to get all that time. You're not gonna get 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:42.880 the continuity. You're not gonna get the brotherhood, you're not 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.719 gonna get the nonverbal communication and all those other things. 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:47.520 You're not gonna get that with just the hours you 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.240 spend at work. Some of the best teams I've been on, 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:52.960 I've been spoiled to be in great organizations. Right when 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.600 I went to New England, guys were studying together, Guys 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.560 are watching film at each other's house. When I was 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.600 in New York, guys were kicking it with each other 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.199 all the time. Seattle with Earland On, those guys, those 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.200 guys hung out together all the time. So when you 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.280 watch these when you watch some of these better teams, 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.439 and they look like they're having fun, like that's because 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.400 they have fun off the field together too, and they're 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.319 hanging out with each other. They're kicking it, they're watching 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.440 they're watching you know, sitcoms together and watching film together 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.760 and going bowling and doing movies and then whatever else 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.360 you do here. You know, um, and you can see 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.640 you can see that symmetry. Um. You can see that 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:30.000 brotherhood on the field. And if you watch closely, I 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.560 don't have to watch that closely. When guys are making plays, 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.040 you see like a vanderash and Jalen Smith, right, you 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:36.920 could tell they hang out a little bit. Right. You 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.360 don't really see much of anything else really going on 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.840 as far as guys celebrating together. In terms of the 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:45.120 whole team being energetic together, it's just not what you see. 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.640 Look at some of the other teams. Look at the Baltimores, right, 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:49.120 look at the Green Bays, look at some of these 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.280 other teams, and look how they how they how they 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.040 revolve around each other. I mean, you'll start noticing that 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:55.800 these guys just don't spend enough time together. That's my 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.600 that's my notion. AAA. Are you saying that our defense 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.680 they're not they're not cool with each other? No, No, No, 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.440 I'm not saying that. I'm saying I'm saying time off 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.240 the field matters right at the time about the field matters. 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.800 And it's just no different than if somebody that you 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.840 stay with inside in house, right. If you stay with 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:16.040 somebody in house, right, your brother, cousin, whatever, you're gonna know, 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.239 you gotta know what they're gonna do. You can anticipate 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.880 what they're going to do because you know their tendencies. 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:22.880 If you're just showing up the working clocking in and 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.640 clocking out, you're doing your job, but you're not doing 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.960 it as effectively as you could have well. And also 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:31.920 you gotta remember that in this current climate, you can't 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.640 necessarily do that. The NFL has sent out memos saying 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.440 you cannot hang out basically outside of outside of work. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.600 You gotta be safer, got to be socially distant. Maybe 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:46.480 that's actially have that. Maybe that's the go for it. 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.360 I'm sorry, Kyle, I was interrupting you. Uh, maybe that's 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.160 the case. And you know, look, man, and you're experiencing 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:56.480 in NFL locker rooms, in that camaraderie between guys. I 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.400 think that's that's that's great, right, But at the same 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.320 time you you make mention of the fact that cover 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.960 three is cover three, cover four you learned in middle school, right, 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.480 that's these are just little things where guys are ad 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.280 living and doing their own thing. And so wherever the 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.800 frustration is coming from, whether these guys got to, you know, 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:16.280 play Duck Duck goose together afterwards, I don't know what 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:20.160 what what the what? What's hell? No, you are not 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.880 don't play with me, don't even play with me with goose. 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.880 All I'm saying. All I'm saying is, no matter what 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.920 the relationship is, we are getting torched. And these guys, 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:33.520 to me, I believe that NFL players are guys that 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.080 are full of pride. They don't want they listen to 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.880 see what the media is saying, and so regardless of 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.560 the love that they have for one another, they realize 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.880 that as a collective eleven guys, they are getting drugged 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.960 through the month because they are giving up astronomical numbers 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.040 every Sunday. I mean, our offense would like to play 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.320 our defense to get their numbers back up. So we 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:57.920 gotta figure this out. And no matter if it's hanging 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:01.000 out afterwards or whatever they have to do, We're just 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.560 not clicking in the system that we're running. All I 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.800 can attribute it to is the fact that they hadn't 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:07.400 had a lot of time to go over the scheme 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:11.320 with Mike Nolan. I don't they haven't, but you got 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.560 then you gotta go overtime. And I'm not saying they're not, 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.280 but you know, that's another thing Sean Lee spoke to 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.240 and it wasn't a critical point. It's just what they 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.359 need to do is just you have to know the 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.359 defense inside and out to be able to play as 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.480 fast as you need to play, to play confidently. And 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.880 I think Joe Thomas, yeah, can't be thinking. Joe Thomas 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.040 spoke that a couple of weeks ago too. I thought, 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.720 like Isaiah said, I thought they played faster. I thought 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.800 they were more decisive in trying to stop Kyler Murray. 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:39.280 And I didn't even have a problem with some of 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.840 the runs he had because he's gonna do that. He 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.600 does that to everybody. But those big plays, man, they 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:47.959 will just kill you. They will kill you. And if 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:51.280 your offense isn't getting the big plays because Andy Dalton 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.119 is is not having guys open as much, or the 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.439 protection's not there, or they're not on the field as 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.200 much because of their own fault, because the turnovers all 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:05.480 just bundles together in one big nasty loss again, and 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:09.919 that's what happened. Yeah, I mean, there's there's definitely bigger 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.440 things that you could point out. And when we come 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.160 back after the break, I'm going to ask a couple 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.280 of film questions to Isaiah and Hekma and kind of 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.480 get their idea on why certain things happened there. But 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.600 also we mentioned a couple of weeks back that the 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.399 New York Giants were the pharmacy for this Cowboys defense. 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.520 If they were the cvs, then we might have the 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:31.640 Walgreens coming up on the other side of the corner 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.800 this week in the Washington football team. So we've got 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:36.960 that competition back and forth, and we'll see the bass 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:40.080 tests false test. Yeah, there you go. We'll see exactly 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.000 what that means. Coming up next. We'll be right back 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:48.080 here on talking Cowboys. 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