1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Alright, folks, my name is Kevin Celia. I'm the chief 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio. Coming up, 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: we've got Congressman Brendan Boyle, Democrat from Pennsylvania. You don't 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: want to miss our exclusive conversation with him. But first 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: we begin tonight with the big story, and that of course, 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: is former President Donald Trump's attorneys speaking making their case 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: to the Senate, the upper Chamber as they defend themselves 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: against the impeachment allegations. I've got sound on this from 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Trump's attorney Bruce Castor, who spoke and laid out his 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: defense before the US Senate and his second impeachment trial. 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: And Bruce Castor and David Show and accused Democrats of 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: a double standard as they showed videos of Democrats using 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: the words fight and calls for uprising in campaign speeches 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: and press conferences. And Castor's opening arguments today, he said 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: that Democrats have not only intentionally excluded Mr Trump's repeated 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: calls for peace during his time in office, but they 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: also omitted portions of his speech on January six, when 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 1: Mr Trump told the thousands to protest peacefully. I've got 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: sound on the defense. Take a listen. Violent criminals were 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: assembling at the Capitol over a mile away, almost an 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: hour before the President uttered a single word on the ellipse. 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: You did not hear that fact during the hours and 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: hours of the House manager's presentation, did you? And David Shellen, 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: he's saying made the case in the Senate that he's 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: alleging that the videos that the Democrats showed were manipulated. 26 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: I've got sound on that. Take a listen. We have 27 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: reason to believe the House managers manipulated evidence and selectively 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: edited footage. If they did, and this were a court 29 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: of law, they would face sanctions from the judge. I 30 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: want to welcome into the conversation are Bloomberg political contributor 31 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,639 Speaker 1: team Rick Davis, as well as Jennie, sean Zo and Genie. 32 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: Let me begin with you. You know, I mean, you 33 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: hear the defense. It's not going to change any any dynamics, 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: most likely, but but didn't do anything but solidify that 35 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: we already know the outcome. It did solidify. We know 36 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: the outcome. I think you know what what I can 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: hear is that we may see a few more Republicans 38 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: because of the strength of the prosecution vote to convict, 39 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: but it's not going to be nearly as you mentioned 40 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: the seventeen they would need. I think at the most 41 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: you were looking at like eight to ten. I think, 42 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: in my mind, one big question, although I don't don't 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: believe it will happen, is where does Mitch McConnell go. Um. Again, 44 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: I don't believe he will vote to convict. I think 45 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: he will likely vote to a quit and then issue 46 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: some kind of strong statement about the president's actions. But 47 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: that's a big question in my mind. Other than that, 48 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: I do think the defense was strong today from the 49 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: perspective of some of the Republicans who may have been 50 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: moved by the prosecution enough that we heard Lisa Murkowski 51 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: saying that they had presented a strong case in his defense. 52 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: So I do think it may have given some more 53 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: Republicans a way to move to acquittal if they weren't 54 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: in that area already. Well, and folks, I'm just gonna 55 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: jump in here and defend the panel already. If you 56 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 1: don't like what the panel says in terms of how 57 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: what they're reporting and analysis is, doesn't really matter. What 58 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: Genie is saying is not taking an opinion on one 59 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: way or the other. What she's saying is that the 60 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: defense UH was strong in the sense that it has 61 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: not changed the presumed outcome, which is that former President 62 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: Trump will be convicted in the Senate. And there's a 63 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: key difference, and that's very important nuance that I gotta 64 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: jump out and say, President Trump did not know that 65 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: the former vice president now Mike Pence, was in danger 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: from the mob at the Capitol when he sent a 67 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: disparaging tweet saying that the vice president didn't have the 68 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: courage to do what should have been done to protect 69 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: our country and our constitution by refusing to certify Joe 70 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: Biden as the presidential election winner. His lawyer said, and 71 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: response to a question, at no point was the president 72 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: informed that the vice president was in danger? Michael van 73 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: der Veen said, the answer is no. That is a 74 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: key moment from today's testimony, is it not, Rick Davis, Yeah, 75 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: I think it is because we can tell from as 76 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: this UH impeachment goes into the next phase, which is 77 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: the Q and A phase, senators have four hours of 78 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: time to ask the UH the prosecutors in the defense questions. 79 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: We already know that Republicans like Lisa Murkowski and Susan 80 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Collins have questions about this timetable. You know, what did 81 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: when did Donald Trump learn of the attack and what 82 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: did he do in the suing times? And how does 83 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: that correspond with what we know to be the danger 84 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: that um that Vice President Mike Pence was in and 85 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: the flooding of the chamber by protesters. So uh, some 86 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: of that is going to play out again still, but 87 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,559 Speaker 1: but yeah, that was a critical moment in today's hearing. 88 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 1: Well they dodged. I mean, here's the moment to your point. 89 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: When Republican Senator Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski, who are undecided, 90 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: mind you folks, on how they're going to vote on this, 91 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: they asked Trump's lawyers, when did Trump learn of the 92 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: breach of the capital, What specific actions did he take? 93 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: Did he bring the rioting to an end? And when 94 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: did he take them? And please be as detailed as possible. 95 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: Vanderven dodged and and Vanderven said that the quote when 96 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: he was asked about this, he said, quote, the house 97 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: managers did zero investigation, and the American people deserve better 98 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: than hearsay. On top of hearsay, I've got sound on 99 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: this from Trump attorney Michael Vanderven Take a listen. The 100 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: article of impeachment now before the Senate is an unjust 101 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: and blatantly unconstitutional act of political vengeance. This appalling abuse 102 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: of the Constitution only further divides our nation when we 103 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: should be trying to come together around shared priorities. Rick 104 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: David has just given your your experience in the in 105 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: the GOP. I mean you hear that answer, You hear 106 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: the dodgeball questions from from Trump's attorneys. If you're Susan 107 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: Collins and Lisa Murkowski and even Mitt Romney, I mean, 108 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: are you does this impact your your decision the dodge Yeah. 109 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: I think that Republicans have been on the record, at 110 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: least in the original opening case that the Trump attorneys made, 111 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: that they were very unimpressed with the case that the 112 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: Trump attorneys were presenting, and and there was a lot 113 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: of pressure over the last three days to see how 114 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: they would finish. And they even got schooled by certain 115 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: senators people like to Cruz and and and Lindsey Graham 116 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: last night saying you better be prepared. Everyone expects something 117 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: better from you. And when Republicans are looking for a performance, 118 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: that could sort of get them off the hot spot 119 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: on a vote against Donald Trump. They didn't get it today. 120 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: Uh if if they were asking for specifics, they got 121 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: a complete dodge. Genie come in here. Yeah. I think that, um, 122 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, where the Trump's team is going to face 123 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: some real challenges is you know, number one, with the disingenuous, 124 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: uh presentation of the montage of Democrats who they are 125 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: trying to equate using terms like fight with what Donald 126 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: Trump has accused to have done. Those kinds of things 127 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: that think are very very difficult for any objective person, 128 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: if anybody in that Jerry was to swallow, but certainly 129 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: since this is a play for public opinion, to me, 130 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: that is very very difficult for them to overcome. And 131 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: then I think as as we look from sort of 132 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: a thirty thousand foot level, as some you know, so 133 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: many of us are watching this, you know, NonStop, but 134 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: a lot of Americans are going about their day, I 135 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: think the bottom line is, how do you allow a 136 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: president without any punishment to do what the prosecutors showed, 137 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, in really grave detail over the last two 138 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: days that President Trump did. And I think bottom line historically, 139 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: if not in the moment. That is where Republicans who 140 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: vote to acquit and again I think many of them 141 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: will maybe except eight or so. How do you answer that, 142 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: because that, to me is what many Americans, even those 143 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: who may have voted for Donald Trump or be Republicans, 144 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: are walking away with. Well, but also to your point, Juni, 145 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: and I'll follow up with you here, I think he 146 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: raised a really a good point about most Americans are 147 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: not tuning into this like the political junkies that we are, 148 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: uh and and so as a result of that, they 149 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: also are disgusted with Washington as a whole. So I 150 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: think do you think part of the former president strategy 151 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: is to lump Washington as a whole and say, look, 152 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: you might think Republicans are dirty independent swing voters, but 153 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: republic but Democrats are just as dirty. I'm not saying 154 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: that's right or wrong or weighing in on the merits 155 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: of the argument, but is that the strategy. That's exactly 156 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: the strategy, and that's the strategy he's always taken. I 157 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: was reminded today in the debates with Hillary Clinton, when 158 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: he was accused of you know, being um, you know, 159 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: sexist and not treating women, well, what did he do. 160 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: He paraded in people that her husband was accused of 161 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: not treating well right, so it's always you're going to 162 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: accuse me of this, Well, I will show you that 163 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: you are no better, and in fact, you may be worse. 164 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: That's been his strategy all along. I think people grow 165 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: tired of that strategy, but he is somebody who has 166 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: used that, and I think today we saw I felt, 167 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: we saw his lawyers really channeling uh, you know, former 168 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: President Trump, and there they really took on his persona 169 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: and they were aggressive, and they were making the same 170 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: arguments I could imagine he would make on Twitter if 171 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: he was allowed. Well, here's here's a little behind the 172 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: scenes St. Louis story back from I was at the St. 173 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: Louis debate and I got bumped out of the press pool, 174 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: so to speak. There's like seven traveling press pool reporters 175 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: at the venue for the St. Louis debate, and I 176 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: must I don't know what I was thinking. I looked away, 177 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: and next thing I know, the Secret Service had blocked 178 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: off of room and I'm standing behind stage. Suddenly I'm 179 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: in the wrong room at the wrong time, minutes before 180 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: the debate with all of those accusers of a former 181 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: President Bill Clinton, and I couldn't get out. I was 182 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: in a security hold, and I'm thinking to myself, what 183 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: am I? What have I gotten myself into? Now, keV? 184 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: But then and so needless to say, a front row 185 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: seat to history. Yeah, and and how surreal and actually 186 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: the same thing, the surreal surreally. Well listen. Coming up next, 187 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna check in with Anna Palmer. She's founder and 188 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: CEO of punch Bowl News. And I had an exclusive 189 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: interview with Kevin McCarthy earlier this week about why he 190 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: went to Marrow Lago to meet with President Trump. And 191 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: I think it's a good catapult into the future of 192 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: the dynamics of the Republican Party. So Rick and Genie 193 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,599 Speaker 1: are gonna stay with me. 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I want 200 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: to make sit sure I say that, yeah, on Sunday. 201 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: Had to pull up the quick calendar on the computer. 202 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: Didn't want to give anyone some false news reporting Valentine's 203 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: Day is Sunday. Make sure you get the gifts. I'm 204 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: joined by the Bloomberg Politics contributors team gifts to me, 205 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: Rick Davis and Jennie Shawns, you know. Uh, and I 206 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: want to continue our conversation about the future of the 207 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: Republican Party, how impeachment is going to play into all 208 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: of this, and we we're gonna do so with my 209 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: former colleague over at Politico. Uh, and now she is 210 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: the CEO and reporter. I want to make sure I 211 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: get the title right for punch Bowl News, which I've 212 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: been reading ever since they launched, and um, they've been 213 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: doing an incredible job. Anna Palmer, founder and CEO of 214 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: punch Bowl News. And Anna had this great interview. Her 215 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: and her team over there had this great interview with 216 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy and you asked him about that Mara Lago picture, 217 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: which that was the only thing anybody wanted to know. Anna, 218 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest and what did what did you 219 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: find out? Yeah, I mean, listen, we were the were 220 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: the news that look that actually broke the story that 221 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy, the leader for House Republicans, was going down 222 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: to Florida and ended up meeting with him then taking 223 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: that infamous photo that kind of cut both ways. Some 224 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: people really loved that he did it, some people in 225 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: his conference did not. You. Kind of apologizing for it, 226 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: he told us that he he wouldn't met with anybody 227 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: and that he hadn't heard from President Joe Biden, so 228 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: kind of putting it on the president and the fact 229 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: that saying, hey, I'm the leader of Post Republicans, I'm 230 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: gonna go where meetings are and with people who are 231 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: relevant to the conversation. So do you think that this 232 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: town understands that, Anna, in the sense that you go 233 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: outside of Washington, and there are parts of the country 234 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: that really, if Republicans want to win back control of 235 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: the House of Representatives, in which they're bullish on that, 236 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna need that Trump voter. I think that House 237 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: Republicans certainly are I often get asked particularly I'm sure 238 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: you do too. You're in the East coast and the 239 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: West Coast. There's a lot of people who say, how 240 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: can what are these Republicans going to give up on 241 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump? It's so important to remember that for a 242 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: vast majority of the country, Donald Trump's popularity is still 243 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: at a record high high eighties, low nineties. And so 244 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: I think what Kevin McCarthy's handling to your point is 245 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: he wants to be Speaker of the House. He almost 246 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: tasted it once before, didn't make it, and he sees 247 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: this next two years as the drum beat to how 248 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: he can get the majority. And he means from his 249 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: perspective anyway, Donald Trump on board for that. Anna, it's 250 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: Jeanne's a know, so good to talk to you in 251 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: congratulations on punch bowl. Um, it's wonderful. So what is 252 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: your sense in terms of Kevin McCarthy, would he just 253 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: want does he just want this acquittal to come as 254 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: quickly as possible and move on? And um, how is 255 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: he you know, approaching this in terms of people like 256 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: Liz Cheney, for instance, Yeah, I mean, thank you so much. 257 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: We're super excited about psible News and I'm gonna put 258 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: my plug in now. You can subscribe at Punchbowl dot News. 259 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: We have a free morning product and a paid afternoon 260 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: product as far as Kevin McCarthy goes, and I think 261 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: frankly most even Democrats and Republicans, I think most people 262 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: are ready for this to be done with. They're clearly 263 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: an exhaustion period around Republicans and having to deal with it, 264 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: particularly in the Senate. UH there's a a lot of 265 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: eye rolling and kind of fatigue about how long this 266 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: trial has gone, even though it's been fairly short in 267 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: in ne A Layman's terms for a jury. I think 268 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: that for Kevin McCarthy, he really wants to focus in 269 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: on protecting his members, keeping his right flank, that Jim 270 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: Jordan's the Republican of Ohio on his team. Liz Cheney, 271 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: for Better for Worse, represents a really small sliver of 272 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: the House Republican conference. She and added kings and Kingsinger, 273 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: the Illinois Republican who's kind of going up against Trump. 274 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: It's a much smaller portion of the House Republican conference 275 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: and and does not represent the majority. I think Liz 276 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: Cheney was able to in a secret ballot keep her 277 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: leadership stot plot. She's she's not close to becoming the 278 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: next fear, though, I think the real question is what 279 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: does Liz Cheney want? What is her future in the 280 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: Republican Party, because she is not a Trump Republican and 281 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: that's been made clear. Well. Meanwhile, back at the White House, 282 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: I've got sound on this from White House Press Secretary 283 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: Jen Psaki. She's saying that President Biden, for his part, 284 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: has not been making calls trying to influence Republican senators 285 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: or Democrats who are of course, Democrats are all expected 286 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: to vote to convict. Take a listen to the sound 287 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: on that from Jen Psaki. He also conveyed during the 288 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: conversation this morning that he is not making any calls 289 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: or asking anyone to vote a certain way. I mean, 290 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: Vick Davis, you hear it right there. And and Anna 291 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: Palmer's reporting as as well as our conversations that we've 292 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: been having, all seemed to indicate that there's just a 293 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: sense they want to move on from this and get 294 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: back to stimulus talks. Yeah. I think that's right. I 295 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: mean I think this thing has moved actually a pretty 296 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: good clip. And uh, and yet today was a big 297 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: day for the House on a stimulus bill, and nobody's 298 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: talking about it. I'm kind of curious because Anna, you've 299 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: got such a pulse on what's going up on a hill. 300 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: I mean, earlier this week, Tim Caine Center from Virginia 301 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: was talking about, well, when this is done, we're gonna 302 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: go after Donald Trump on the fourteenth Amendment. We're gonna 303 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: center him, We're gonna ban him from politics. Is there 304 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: gonna be any appetite for that once they're done with this? 305 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: I think it's tough for me to see that the 306 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: Democrats are gonna want to spend a lot of time 307 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: on this. Clearly the President doesn't, as you've just acknowledge, 308 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: I mean, as you've played that sound and talked about 309 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: and they are so focused on COVID relase, and they 310 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: have a very tight deadline for that to come to 311 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: come to fruition, right. They've given themselves as the middle 312 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: of March, which was when unemployment uh interance benefits expire, 313 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: and so you have the House freecing to try to 314 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: get it done as fast as possible to send it. 315 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: We reported this morning broke the news that they likely 316 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: are not even going to even bring into committees. They're 317 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: gonna bring it straight to the floor with a you 318 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: know Amendment by Chuck Schumer, and so I have a 319 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: hard time thinking that they're going to actually make any 320 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: serious effort effort beyond this the impeachment trial to to 321 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: kind of continue to focus on Donald Took. All right, 322 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: great reporting. Thats Anna Palmer. She is the founder and 323 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: CEO of punch Bowl News. Again. You can check them 324 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: out and all of their morning newsletter and for the 325 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: features of their reporting. Anna Palmer, founder and CEO of 326 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: punch Bowl New. It is coming up, Congressman Brendan Boyle. 327 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Sireli. This is Bloomberg. I'm Kevin Surreli, chief 328 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: Washington correspondent for Bloomberg TV and Radio, accompanied by none 329 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: other than Rick Davis, partner at Stone Court Capital, Bloomberg 330 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: Politics contributor and uh former campaign manager for John McCain's 331 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: O eight presidential campaign, as well as Jeanie Shawn Zano, 332 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: a professor at I own A College and Bloomberg Politics contributor. Uh. 333 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: You know, maybe I shouldn't say this, and I can 334 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 1: rix not with me right now, but I can hear 335 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: him every time I say that, I can sense the 336 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: nerves through the sound waves of sound on as I 337 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: say maybe I really shouldn't say this on the air, 338 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: but sometimes I can't help myself. And it's that we 339 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: reporters sometimes forget that the people that we interview actually 340 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: have jobs. So yesterday I get a message from Congressman 341 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: Brendan Boyle, my next guest, and he goes, Kevin, I 342 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: can't come on your show tonight. I'm in a markup. 343 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm actually doing the markup for the stimulus bill at 344 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: one point nine trillion dollar stimulus bill. But I come 345 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: on on Friday. I say, Congressman, look, I don't want 346 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: to get in the way of the law. You know, 347 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to do my job. Gotta get a guest. 348 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: So Congressman Boyle, I appreciate you coming on the show 349 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: and making the time for me. What's going on with 350 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: that markup? Yeah? Well we were eighteen hours later and 351 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: about yeah. So um, we broke it up. So we went, uh, 352 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: nine straight hours on Wednesday, nine straight hours on Thursday. 353 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: But there were constantly rolling votes. We had about fifty 354 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: or sixty different votes on various amendments. But the bottom 355 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: line is, and I serve in the House Ways and 356 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: Means Committee, so we have by far the biggest piece 357 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: of this one point nine trillion dollar bill. But we 358 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: passed it um. So now it's it's moving right along 359 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: and and hopefully we'll be all primed up for floor 360 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: action in the House of Representatives not next week but 361 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: the week after. Well. And then we just heard from 362 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: Anna Palmer and this match is Winberg supporting by the 363 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: way that it's it's not going to likely go through 364 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: the committee process in the Senate because for whatever reason. Um. 365 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: But President Biden was actually asked about the stimulus earlier 366 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: today when he met with a bipartisan group of governors 367 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: and mayors to talk about the what they're calling the 368 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: American Rescue Plan. I've got the sound on this. It's 369 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: the top of the stot list the sounds on this 370 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: from President Biden. Let's take a listen. These are the 371 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: folks that are on the ground, even with every single 372 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: solitary day, and they see the pain and they see 373 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: the successes when they occur. And what I really want 374 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: to know about is what should that the recovery plan? 375 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: Should we have more or less of anything in it? 376 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: What do they think they need most? How to proceed? 377 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: When will Americans get their check? That's a good question. 378 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: You know. Last time. It's funny because we've now had 379 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: two different rounds of stimulus payments. If remember one of 380 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: the spring with the Cares Act, and then the other 381 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: right around New Year's with UM with the additional six 382 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: hundred dollars that ended up as a result of a compromise. UM. 383 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: If you were called the second time, the I R 384 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: S got the checks out much more quickly because they 385 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: already had collected the information the first time for folks 386 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: who they didn't have, you know, routing numbers and account 387 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: numbers for etcetera. So I would expect then if we 388 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: have House passage, say within two weeks, then it goes 389 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: over to the Senate. If all of this is wrapped up, 390 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: say that first week of March, then per what happened 391 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: last time, I would think I R S would be 392 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: able to get those checks out literally within a week, 393 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, within a week of passage, you know, that 394 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: first week of March, which by congressional standards would be 395 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: This is Rick Davis. It's great to have you on 396 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: the show, Congressman, and I want to ask you the 397 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: check wasn't the only thing that got done in that 398 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: eighteen hour marathon. Voter rama. Uh, you talk a little 399 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: bit about some of the other things that that you 400 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: addressed in that package. I mean, you've increased tax credits, 401 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: you've for for children, unemployment benefits went up. I mean, 402 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: what are some of the highlights that really people in 403 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: addition to the check might see happening for them in 404 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: the short run. Yeah, I'm glad you raised this rick 405 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: because it's such a comprehensive bill one point nine trillion 406 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: that everyone focuses understandably on the direct stimulus payments that 407 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: we lose sight of all of the other important aspects. 408 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: And you just named two of them. Let me add 409 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: a few others, one especially, and I'll meet my bias 410 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: here as the parent, as the father of a first grader, 411 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: here has been who has been learning first grade from 412 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: our kitchen table for the last couple of months, and 413 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: the husband of an elementary school teacher. Getting school safely 414 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: reopened the special concern in uh, in the boil household 415 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: and so many around the country. So we have um 416 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 1: over a hundred billion dollars in there to do what 417 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: it takes in order to get these schools reopened safely. 418 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: You probably saw the CDC guidance that was just released 419 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: as well, and I can tell you, I mean, I 420 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: represent about half of the city of Philadelphia. We have 421 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: so many buildings, school buildings that are more than a 422 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: hundred years old. So, um, you know there's a building 423 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: in my district that just got the ventilation score of 424 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: literally zero. Um. That's the kind of building that now 425 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: would have resources through this bill in order to be revamped. Um. 426 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: The other part that you mentioned, I want to highlight 427 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: the trial tax credit. You know, there really seems to 428 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: be an opportunity here to get um, some buy in 429 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: on the Republican side, Center Mitt Romney has a very 430 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: exciting proposal which is similar to something I've long favored 431 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: on the child tax credit. It seems as if we 432 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: have a real coming together to address child poverty. By 433 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: some estimates, increasing the child tax credit, which is in 434 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: this bill would eliminate child poverty by um. So it 435 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: just shows you, I mean, this would be an incredibly 436 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: important bill, the second largest in American history. Representative Boil 437 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: it's geniees. I know, it's so good to talk to you, 438 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to ask you, and with your 439 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: young kids and your wife who is involved in education, 440 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: what do you make of the guidelines that were released 441 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: on the opening, and do you think that it's safe 442 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: for teachers to be back in the classroom. Do you 443 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: agree with the recommendations that have been put out there 444 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: in the last twenty four hours. Granted, I know Kevin said, 445 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: you've been working, and we all know that, so I 446 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: don't know if you've had a chance to look at them. 447 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: Even Yeah, I mean I've I've been stuck voting on 448 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: these various amendments. Um, what I can say, though, pretty comfortably, 449 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: is on the is it safe question, it literally depends 450 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: on where you are. It depends on the state that 451 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: you're living in, and even then at the ends upon 452 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: your county. So, for example, the guidance here in Philadelphia 453 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 1: has been a little bit different than in other parts 454 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. I will feel much more 455 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: comfortable once we get the resources to places to reopen safely. 456 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that as badly as I want 457 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: the schools to reopen, sending my wife to go teach 458 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: in a building with an hv A C score or 459 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: ventilation score of literally zero, that would not be safe 460 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: for teachers or for the kids. So, um, let's We're 461 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: all eager to get back, but let's make sure we 462 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: can do it the right way. I am pretty confident 463 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: though that that we'll be able to get there soon. 464 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: All right. Coming up next, we're gonna continue this conversation 465 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: with Congressman Brendan Boyle. Along with the panel. We're going 466 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: to pay it back to impeachment and other geopolitical issues. 467 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: What does he have to say about the Irish immigration 468 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: to the United States. I've got it. He gave an 469 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: interview to the Irish Central that's coming up next. I'm 470 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: Kevin Surreally. This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg Sound 471 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: On with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg Radio. My name is 472 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: Kevin Sirelian. I am the chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg 473 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: Television and for Bloomberg Radio. You know. The other week 474 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: I was at the Irish Ambassador's Residents Daniel Mullhall. He 475 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: is the Ambassador of Ireland to the United States of America. 476 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: Daniel Mullhall, He's been on the show, um and I 477 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: was talking to him about trade between the two countries, 478 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: and he actually brought up this issue of immigration into 479 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 1: of Ireland and Irish immigrants are actually choosing Australia and 480 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: Canada over the United States. My guest here accompanying me 481 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: with the Bloomberg political contributors Rick Davis and Jennie Snzano 482 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: is Congressman Brendan Boyle. He is a Democrat from Philly, 483 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: and I believe the only member of Congress who has 484 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: a parent from Ireland. And I get that right. I 485 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: don't want to mess out of Congressman. Yeah, now, that's 486 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: that's right. My father was born and raised in Ireland 487 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: and came here as an immigrant when he was nineteen. Wow. 488 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: And and you you've been really outspoken on on issues 489 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: pertaining to the US and Ireland relationship relations Why do 490 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: you think it is that that so many immigrants are 491 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: choosing other countries, in this case Ireland rather than coming 492 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: to the United States. Oh, there's a very simple reason. 493 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: It is almost impossible now to legally um immigrates the 494 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: United States from Ireland ever since the Immigration Act of nine. 495 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: And I'm going to attempt to give it a very 496 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: simple version because I don't want to completely born and 497 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: turn off your listeners. But a long story short, is 498 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: an unintended consequence of the immigration Act of is that 499 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: it has made it extremely difficult for folks from Ireland 500 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: as well as other Western European countries to come here legally. 501 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: So a lot now Ireland's economy is so much better. Obviously, 502 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: immigration from there is is a lot lower today than 503 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: what it was hundreds of years ago. But that said, 504 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: for those who do want to immigrate, they basically choose Canada, 505 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: Australian or New Zealand. Very few come here unless they 506 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: tend to be in a very technical um or high 507 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: school professional. Congressman, let's bring it back to your district. 508 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: Who should the Eagles choose for their QB? I was 509 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: waiting for the Carson Wentz question to come up. I 510 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: can't believe here it is. It's Friday and the three. 511 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: I've got a three day weekend. You've got an impeachment vote. 512 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: But oh no, you don't. You're in there. You're not 513 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: in the Senate yet. But I you know, go ahead. 514 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to be too chatty. If you can 515 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: get if you can get a first rounder from the 516 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: Bears or the Colts, and if they can throw in 517 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: a conditional pick like a fourth based on what benchmarks 518 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: Wentz hits I think that's probably the smartest move. Now, 519 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: you guys sent a letter the Philly the Philly delegation, 520 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: ros Rick Davis told me send a letter, uh to 521 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: the CDC about the inequities on the vaccination front. Why 522 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: why are why are the vaccines? Why is there so 523 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: much inequality with vaccine distribution? Yeah, so this is interest. 524 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: This is an issue that affects Philadelphia, but also basically 525 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: every big city. So in most big cities, the daytime 526 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: population is bigger than the actual residential population. I mean, 527 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: it's easy to figure out people come into the city 528 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: to work and then are going home to the suburbs. Well, 529 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: it turns out the CDC formula is based on your 530 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: official population. A lot of the vaccines that are being 531 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: distributed in cities are being distributed to folks who may 532 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: work here but not actually live here. By one estimate, 533 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: about half of the vaccines that have been distributed in 534 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: Philadelphia are going to people who don't actually live in Philadelphia. 535 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: That also ends up skewing the sort of diversity pool 536 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: of those who are getting to the vaccines. So what 537 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 1: we've asked the CDC is, look, I come up with 538 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: a more accurate formula. So that way, you know, those 539 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: of us in Philadelphia, but also other big cities aren't 540 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: getting short changed. Congressmen, this wreck again, thank you for 541 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: that note, because I think a lot of people are 542 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: wondering as they sit around today thinking, yea, what is 543 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: the policy on vaccine distribution? And I MI am being 544 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: left out? Or is there some other reason why we 545 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: can't seem to get it done. Obviously, this has been 546 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: a big week on the announcements of additional vaccine that 547 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: the White House has purchased, so hopefully that everybody can 548 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: catch up to that. I want to return back to 549 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: the stimulus plan if I can a little bit, because 550 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: I am kind of curious what you think about the 551 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: politics of it. We've seen your bill pass on a 552 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: straight line party vote. I'm kind of curious if you 553 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: thought there was a chance to get Republicans on this bill. 554 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: But also some of the Democrats are starting to peal 555 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: off of the notion of a fifteen dollar minimum wage 556 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: in the Senate. Do you think that can make its 557 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: way through and be done on on on a minimum 558 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: wage increase? Yeah? So on on the first question, Um, look, 559 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: I and I'm raised this in the in the eighteen 560 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: hour markup that we were talking about. Look at the 561 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: polling of where the American people are, including a majority 562 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: of Republicans. This bill has such high approval rate. I 563 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen as the high approval ratings 564 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: for a piece of legislation over the American people supported, 565 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: including a majority of Republicans. So it is a bipartisan bill. 566 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: I hope that you will have Republican members of Congress 567 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: who put partisanship aside and go with where their own 568 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: voters are. Now to the second question on minimum wage, 569 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear based on what the CBO 570 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: determined this week, that there is a budgetary impact and 571 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: therefore you can use reconciliation. And I think the challenges 572 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: you now have to Democratic senators who have said that 573 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: they oppose either a fifteen dollar minimum wage or oppose 574 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: attaching it to the overall COVID relief bill. I mean, 575 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: the way I count it, then that's at most forty. 576 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: So if you can't get to fifty, then then what's 577 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: the point. I hope we could get there, but perhaps 578 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: this is an issue that will have to be then 579 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: the grass and subsequent legislation and representative oil. It's geniees 580 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: a'to again and I love you talking about the Immigration 581 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: Act of nineteen sixty five because it's one of the 582 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: fascinating historical acts with these unintended consequences. But sticking with 583 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: the stimulus package, how do you respond to criticism or concern, 584 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: I should say, from people who say, if the bill 585 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: passes close to two trillion dollars that we will run 586 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: the danger of inflation. How do you respond to that criticism? Um, 587 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm forty four years old and there are two things 588 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: I've heard about in my lifetime I've never seen. One 589 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: is the locknest monster and the others inflation. So I 590 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: know the threat is another Irish illusion. Yeah, I know. 591 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: It's like I feel like I need a lepre con 592 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: to jump out or something going. It's Valentine's Day, not St. Patrick. 593 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to kiss off my Scottish constituents actually 594 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: in Scotland. Um. Yeah, So look, I mean, is there 595 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: the threat of inflation, yes, but it's so hypothetical as 596 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: opposed to the threat that is actually right here right now. 597 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: You know. I would refer also people to what Chair 598 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: Powell has said, Chair Peal not Chapal is not Bernie 599 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. He has made clear, as have 600 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: a large number of economists, both in the centrist camp 601 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: as well as in the progressive camp, that this is 602 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: the time to go big. If we're gonna error on 603 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: one side, it needs to be going big and going bold. 604 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: The congressman, I mean, when you hear from people like 605 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, for example, I mean they've 606 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: all raised concerns. He's, for example, has raised concerns about 607 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: potentially spending too much money. And you know some of 608 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: your more moderate Republicans have also raised some of these concerns. 609 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: Then they're talking about infrastructure. So at what point does 610 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: deficit become a concern? Look, first, I'll take Janet Yellen 611 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: and j Powell over Larry Summers with all due respect. 612 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: I would also point out even Trump's economist Kevin Hassett, 613 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: has come out in favor of what we're doing here 614 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: on on COVID relief and going big in terms of 615 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: infracture infrastructure. Um, Look, this is about as good a 616 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: time to borrow and make investments as there's ever been. 617 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we literally have you know, negative interest rates 618 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: effectively when factored in the real return. So again I 619 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: come down decidedly on the side of going big and 620 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: going bold. I know at some point we will have 621 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: to turn to being concerned about the deficit and the debt. 622 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: I just think we are far from that point right now. 623 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: We're still in the middle of this crisis, and there 624 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: is a greater threat of a double dip recession than 625 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: there is of inflation. So when you when we hear 626 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: about infrastructure, though, I mean, is that is that a 627 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: realistic goal before the term elections? Yeah, I absolutely believe it. 628 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 1: I still think that that was the great missed opportunity 629 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. If he had led off with an 630 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: infrastructure bill which I and a number of my Democratic 631 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,959 Speaker 1: colleague we're willing to vote for, he would always talk 632 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: about it. But the problem was he had a number 633 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: of folks on the Republican side who weren't with him 634 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: on that issue. Um, he would have been able to 635 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: get some Republican votes, but when you looked at his 636 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: White House, it was really populated by people who had 637 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: more doctrinaire conservative views on on this. Now fast forward 638 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: four years, UM, we were already able to pass a 639 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: big infrastructure bill out of the House last summer got 640 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 1: almost no attention. But um, being as a may clearly 641 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: we have the votes to pass it out of the House. 642 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: I think that the Senate you will have Republican buy in. 643 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: You do have, um some kind of Chamber of commerce 644 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: or main street type Republicans who are who are have 645 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: bought into it. UM. So I'm pretty confident that we 646 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: will be able to get it done. And again, I 647 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: think that if there's any issue that offers the hope 648 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: of bipartisanship, it is infrastructure. All Right, We're gonna have 649 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: to leave it there. That is, of course, Congressman Brendan Boyle, 650 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: he is a Democrat from Philadelphia, from Pennsylvania. Thank you 651 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: so much, Congressman, truly for for making the time for 652 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: me on a Friday, and uh, enjoy your weekend, and 653 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: I know you'll be continuing to give us updates on 654 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,479 Speaker 1: that economic stimulus. All right. February is Black History Month, 655 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 1: and every day Bloomberg is uh going into the history 656 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: of Black History Month. And here's what today's installment is, 657 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: Ronida Young on this day in Black History. In nine nine, 658 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People was 659 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 1: founded riots in Springfield, Illinois, where the final tipping point 660 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: that led to the creation of the Double A CP. 661 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: The group aimed to secure for all people rights guaranteed 662 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: in the four and fifteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution. Today, 663 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: the Double A CPS the nation's largest and widely recognized 664 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: civil rights organization, with more than half a million members 665 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: and supporters globally. Its mission continues to be ensuring the political, educational, social, 666 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: and economic equality of minority group citizens of the United 667 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: States and to eliminate racial prejudice. That's today in black history. 668 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need a young Bloomberg Radio all right, my 669 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: thanks to our guest at a Palmer punch Bowl News 670 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: as well as to Congressman Brandon Boyle and the Bloomberg 671 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: Politics team, Rick Davis and Jeannie Shawn Zano. And coming 672 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: up next week, we've got mc mulvaney. He's gonna be 673 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: on the program. He's got a lot to talk about, 674 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: the former chief of staff to former President Donald Trump. 675 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: Thanks to our team behind the scenes as well. Have 676 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: a great weekend. This Sloomber