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Speaker 1: Fish Stripes and Filtered Episode twenty. We're twenty episodes in.

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Speaker 1: I guess this we could say is a milestone. It's

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Speaker 1: forty weeks in now, I guess Isaac my co host,

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Speaker 1: we've been doing this for forty weeks and now twenty

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Speaker 1: episodes in.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 1: And I guess congratulations for sticking around for twenty.

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Speaker 3: Five I'm doing swell man. It's been a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: It's felt like eighty weeks, but it has been a

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Speaker 3: fun time. I feel like we've been doing this since

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Speaker 3: last year. But yeah, I know we've gone through a

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Speaker 3: lot of Mileston this is definitely one of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, somehow we got to do content through a lockout,

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Speaker 1: which now was that was tough.

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Speaker 2: I can first hand say that.

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Speaker 1: And then we have Eli, who's who produces the show,

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Speaker 1: who allowed us to be on this platform bi weekly? Eli,

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Speaker 1: how are you? And thank you for coming on? As always,

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Speaker 1: we're all repping you.

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Speaker 2: I'm here today.

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Speaker 4: Funny enough, Yes, the best biweekly podcast in fish Drive's history,

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Speaker 4: probably the only one that we've run on a five

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Speaker 4: week schedule. You guys have done awesome, so it is

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Speaker 4: great to happen and go through a very pivotal time

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Speaker 4: for the Marlins season at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So I guess we could just start right away.

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Speaker 1: So I put out a tweet asking you guys to

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Speaker 1: send us questions, and some of you actually came through,

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Speaker 1: So I guess we could just go right into the

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Speaker 1: first question. I wanted to make this a little bit

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Speaker 1: more fan oriented, where you guys asked us questions and

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Speaker 1: we would respond to come up with topics and that

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Speaker 1: you guys want to talk about. And here's the first one.

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Speaker 1: What moves can the Marlins make in June to save

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Speaker 1: their season and not condemn it to another sixty seven

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Speaker 1: to seventy two win failure? Trade, staff, roster adjustments. Do

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Speaker 1: we actually have what it takes?

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Speaker 3: That's an interesting question. Talked about a lab, That's an

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Speaker 3: interesting question.

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Speaker 1: So I like that they mentioned staff here because funny enough, today,

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Phillies, we're recording this on June third, they

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Speaker 1: fired Joe Girardi and another coach. But I guess the

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Speaker 1: one that really matters is Joe Girardi. So I guess

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Speaker 1: we could get that one off the out there first.

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Speaker 1: Isaac Warrior thoughts on that firing. I mean it looked

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Speaker 1: like you'd really lost the locker room. And with a

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Speaker 1: they should not be at a they should not have

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Speaker 1: the same games under five hundred as the Marlins would

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Speaker 1: for example.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was an interesting one. I know this is

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Speaker 3: rare because I Seela and I were discussing prior to this,

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Speaker 3: prior recording this. This a mid season firing of a

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Speaker 3: I think the Reds fired their manager, so it's not

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Speaker 3: very often. It's not very common when a team fires

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Speaker 3: was peculiar. And then I'm not totally surprised there. I

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Speaker 3: don't follow the Phillies that closely, but I have noticed

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Speaker 3: a lot of strange moves made by Girardi. That's the

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Speaker 3: ones that if Marlins fans were, you know, following, they

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Speaker 3: would be like going crazy with all the stuff that

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Speaker 3: Don Manley does. Your Girardi's don't even crazier stuff. So

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Speaker 3: I'm not too surprised. I am more surprised also that

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Speaker 3: they're not off to the best of starts, right.

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Speaker 4: And this is what's always so difficult about mid season

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Speaker 4: managerial changes and why you don't see it that often.

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Speaker 4: As you just mentioned the interim Rob Thompson, he's the

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Speaker 4: bench coach who's actually with Girardi way back in his

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Speaker 4: Yankee days as well for a bunch of years they

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Speaker 4: And the other side of that is, why would you

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Speaker 4: going to try to actually like write out comparing this

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Speaker 4: But I believe, as you alluded to, this was a

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Speaker 4: whereas in the case of Madden Lee, almost every single

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Speaker 4: And this was an unusual case where they felt the

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Speaker 4: I don't expect there to be very other many other

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I knew.

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Speaker 1: I had a feeling when this came out that many

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Speaker 2: To fire him.

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Speaker 1: No, he's not the one playing the game. He's not

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Speaker 1: you know, I guess we could kind of expand on that, Isaac,

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Speaker 1: I guess last time the Marlins fired someone midway through

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Speaker 3: So I don't think you'd see a lot of changes.

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Speaker 3: I don't think firing Don Manningley would be the answer.

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Speaker 3: I have disagreed with him on many moves as well,

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Speaker 3: just as well as many Marlins fans have. But you know,

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Speaker 3: Avi Garcia is not going to turn into a thirty

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Speaker 3: now there is something to be said about, oh, well,

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Speaker 3: you know, cultural change in the clubhouse. But I think

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Speaker 3: So I think if they were to move on from Donnie,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I guess the final thing, I guess

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Speaker 1: you said it perfectly there that you know, people are

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Speaker 2: No, he's not the one playing out there. He's not

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Speaker 2: a great person.

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Speaker 1: We speak to him pretty much almost on the daily

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Speaker 1: you know, and that's something that I guess. I spoke

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Speaker 1: that's something that starts with the manager as well. So

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Speaker 4: I made this picture back in twenty nineteen when we

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Speaker 4: were talking about the Marlins tanking. You have to a

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Speaker 4: really terrible start, and I just was going through the

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Speaker 1: It's okay, this is hilarious. The final thing I'll say

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Speaker 2: But traits, I mean, if you have anyone, Isaac, I

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think the and Missions interview with Dan Greenley,

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Speaker 3: I did was that they will be a little bit

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Speaker 3: more aggressive than they have been in your past. They've

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Speaker 3: always been sort of aggressive at the deadline in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty, even in twenty twenty one. I'll be as sellers,

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Speaker 3: but I think even if their ten games are less

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Speaker 3: And I think a team that they should really, you know,

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Speaker 3: talk to, is the Oakland A's. I know, Louis Trevino

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Speaker 3: is the guy that you want it. He's been horrible.

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Speaker 2: She's been bad. He's not been good.

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Speaker 3: But they have a couple of you know, high leverage

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Speaker 3: arms that could really help this Mardel's bullpen, like Domingo Esvedo,

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Speaker 3: He's been not bad. I was watching an AS game

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Speaker 3: help Miami's bullpen. But I think the bullpens definitely where

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Speaker 3: they would improve if there were to be buyers in

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Speaker 3: the deadline, and other than that, there's nowhere else. There's

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Speaker 3: So I would think that pitching in the bullpen is

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Speaker 3: a pretty decent trade partner, and they obviously have history

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Speaker 3: with them, just as you know as recent as last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the only other player I was really thinking mine

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, Yeah, he's you said it. He's going

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Speaker 4: A longer term absence potentially because he aggravated his hamstring issue.

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Speaker 5: To help them win games or not. We'll find out.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna have a lot of responsibility for these next

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Speaker 3: I'm going to pull out my fish on the farm.

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Speaker 3: Cop here and just like say, you know, you show

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we can move on to the next

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Speaker 1: Assuming the current trend continues, which non obvious players do

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Eli May.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind talking about this at all. The first

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Speaker 3: This is the out you want?

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Speaker 4: Three to two from Pablo, he wanted and he got it.

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Speaker 1: If things go south this, we don't know how certain

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Speaker 4: Non obvious, non obvious. Don't even spend on the obvious guys.

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Speaker 4: Right, And just to explain to people, so laire situation,

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Speaker 4: You can find guys like that in free agency if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I always said with Leywen, especially in the offseason,

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Speaker 1: They want a player that Oakland would need, and Miami

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Speaker 3: The Braves would be a fit. You know, they have Phillies.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of teams that could use Anthony Bass services.

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Speaker 1: of the worst in the majors, and and you say,

437
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Speaker 1: and people say that Marlins Bullpen.

438
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Speaker 2: Is bad, the Phillies is even worse. So I think

439
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Speaker 2: we can move on to the next question.

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Speaker 4: If there is one, Well, you said you wanted this

441
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Speaker 4: to be real quick podcast. We've already spent twenty minutes

442
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Speaker 4: on Q and A. The last couple of are are

443
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Speaker 4: just silly ones from our friend miss Mambah, whether you

444
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Speaker 4: send the Marlins pensa colon, bring the blue who's here

445
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Speaker 4: to try to win some games? And it may be

446
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Speaker 4: a similar one from one other account as well, m

447
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Speaker 4: ilb recipes about the Jumbo Shrimp whether they could beat

448
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Speaker 4: the Marlins playing heads ahead if it happens today.

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Speaker 3: No, honestly, in the seven game series Jumbo Shrimp win

450
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Speaker 3: one or two.

451
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Speaker 2: Yeah they would.

452
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Speaker 3: But just because he mentioned Pensacola, Griffin Conine had another

453
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Speaker 3: big game yesterday. He's been heating up. We were speaking

454
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Speaker 3: with Ram lately, one of his biggest advocates, and yeah,

455
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Speaker 3: it's like got radied. Overall, it's still thirty five percent,

456
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Speaker 3: which is bad. Not just twenty eight for the last yes,

457
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Speaker 3: in the last you know month it's been, it's dropped

458
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Speaker 3: at twenty eight, which Hey, with the insane amount of

459
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Speaker 3: time that he walks his power, it could work. Obviously,

460
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Speaker 3: its soill a long ways away, but that's an intriguing,

461
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Speaker 3: intriguing name that, Hey, he's doing this at double A.

462
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Speaker 3: You're gonna have to protect him this year because I think,

463
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Speaker 3: like last season, they were pretty confident that he wouldn't

464
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Speaker 3: get selected in the Rule five luckily got canceled. So

465
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Speaker 3: if I do thing this year, they will have to

466
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Speaker 3: make a move on the forty man to protect this guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get into the minor league levels in a bit.

468
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Speaker 1: So I think we're done with the Q and A.

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Speaker 1: Now that's very fun. If you ever have a question,

470
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Speaker 1: don't hesitate to tag me Isaac or ELI or Twitter's

471
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Speaker 1: will be on this there you tag fish strips instead

472
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Speaker 1: of Eli. But let's move on to the next thing

473
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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about, and we'll go by these quickly.

474
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Speaker 1: Marlin's All Stars. So I think this has been a

475
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Speaker 1: topic that we've been talking about this past week, about

476
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Speaker 1: Sandy and how good he's been, how much he deserves

477
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Speaker 1: to be an NL starting pitcher. He should be the

478
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Speaker 1: starting pitcher in the MLB All Star Game in Los Angeles.

479
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Speaker 1: I think we all agree at the moment he should be,

480
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Speaker 1: because there's no other better picture that's been doing it

481
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Speaker 1: better than him, and really his only competition has been

482
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Speaker 1: Pablo Lopez or Corbyn Burns.

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Speaker 2: So I'll go to you, Isaac. He wrote the recap last.

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Speaker 1: Night and when they took three out, and you mentioned

485
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Speaker 1: that Sandy should be the All Star starting pitcher for

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Speaker 1: that National League.

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Speaker 2: So just I guess if you want to expand on.

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Speaker 1: That, how good he's been, and any other options that

489
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Speaker 1: come up to mine, which.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking of doing an article on. Just like the

491
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Speaker 3: straight upward trajectory that Sandy has gone on since twenty eighteen,

492
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Speaker 3: you could have a whole tar behind him play and

493
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Speaker 3: he would still walk six guys per nine innings. He

494
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Speaker 3: he has come such a long way since being traded

495
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Speaker 3: over to Miami from Saint Louis. It's really remarkable to

496
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Speaker 3: see how well he's You know, he was an All

497
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Speaker 3: Star in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, he pitched the biggest

498
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Speaker 3: games in recent history for the Marlins twenty twenty one,

499
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Speaker 3: two hundred innings to hundred strikeouts, and this year he's

500
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Speaker 3: on pace for an even better year. It's really phenomenal,

501
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Speaker 3: how well that, how well he's doing it, how phenomenal

502
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Speaker 3: of a starting pitcher he is. He's probably a top

503
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Speaker 3: five pitcher in the National League in my opinion, for sure,

504
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Speaker 3: a top five pitcher, and for all start, I think

505
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Speaker 3: he's got to be in the conversation to be the

506
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Speaker 3: starting pitcher for the NL. There's no one that's been better.

507
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Speaker 3: Corbin Burns has been really good, Pablo Lovaz has been

508
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Speaker 3: really good. But when it comes to just you know,

509
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Speaker 3: durability and innings pitch, that's five straight games of one

510
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Speaker 3: hundred pitches, that's five straight games with a least seven

511
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Speaker 3: innings pitched. It's been seven inning yeah, seven inchs pitch.

512
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Speaker 3: It's just been remarkable. And there's I'm just obsessed with

513
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Speaker 3: the starting pitcher. He's he's humble, he doesn't care if

514
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Speaker 3: his team gives him one or two runs. He'll put

515
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Speaker 3: he'll keep his ball, his ball club in the game

516
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Speaker 3: at all times. And he's just phenomenal. He's got my

517
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Speaker 3: vote to be the end all starting pitcher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And he mentioned in the press conference which we were

520
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Speaker 1: at that he could go one hundred, thirty hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty pitches, which is very which I wouldn't you know,

522
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Speaker 1: that's something I wouldn't doubt from Sandy because I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure if.

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Speaker 2: It's like that, he said it like this.

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Speaker 1: After every start he makes, the day after he goes

526
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Speaker 1: into a two hour and thirty minute workout, which is

527
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Speaker 1: just insane. So you know, this is definitely something that

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Speaker 1: Sandy takes into mind with his routine. That's something that

529
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Speaker 1: Donnie also mentioned in the press conference that he had

530
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Speaker 1: the stuff in twenty eighteen, but he didn't have the

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Speaker 1: best routine. And you know that routine making changes to

532
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Speaker 1: an adjustments throughout that week before he makes that starter

533
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Speaker 1: when he makes the start is something that he definitely

534
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Speaker 1: has looked at him changed around and look how he's

535
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Speaker 1: doing now. The only other player is that really come

536
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Speaker 1: up to me when it comes to All Star candidates.

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Speaker 1: Pablo obviously, I think he will definitely make the All

538
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Speaker 1: Star team. He won NL Pitcher or NL Player of

539
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Speaker 1: the Month in the month of April after leading the

540
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Speaker 1: National League in ERA or the whole MLB and ERA

541
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Speaker 1: and then Jazz is the only other one that really

542
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Speaker 1: comes up to mind, probably the best hitter on the

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Speaker 1: team so far this season.

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Speaker 2: You look at all the guys.

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Speaker 1: Jazz is one that comes up to mind, So Eli,

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Speaker 1: if you have anyone else or just expand on those

547
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Speaker 1: guys we've already mentioned.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well you are kind of downplaying how awesome it

549
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Speaker 4: is that he is three Yeah All Star candidates.

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Speaker 5: Sandy extremely likely.

551
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Speaker 4: I'd say Pablo definitely better than fifty to fifty chance

552
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Speaker 4: and Jazz do do is fan popularity certainly better than

553
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Speaker 4: fifty to fifty as well, even with the time missed

554
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Speaker 4: due to injury.

555
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Speaker 5: This is something that Marlins have not had.

556
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Speaker 4: Since before the rebuild, like they've had I think three

557
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Speaker 4: total All Stars over since then because if had won

558
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 4: during the full seasons and none in twenty twenty, so

559
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Speaker 4: they could have as many All Stars this year as

560
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Speaker 4: they had the last four years combined. I think people

561
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Speaker 4: know that, but it needs to be said because it

562
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Speaker 4: is cool. It is really something that, especially as casual

563
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Speaker 4: fans and for a team that sometimes struggles to capture

564
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Speaker 4: the imagination of the fan base, especially if the team's

565
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Speaker 4: under five hundred, like, this is pretty special that they're

566
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Speaker 4: going through right now. Really, again, outside of that, I

567
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Speaker 4: don't think they're gonna have four All Stars. There is

568
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Speaker 4: not really another obvious guy. It just should be noted

569
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Speaker 4: again how well Jorge Soilera has been hitting of late.

570
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Speaker 4: If that continues in a year where there hasn't been

571
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Speaker 4: as much power hitting in baseball as usual, like you'll

572
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Speaker 4: be surprised actually how high he now is among like

573
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Speaker 4: the NL home run leader boards. I wouldn't totally rule

574
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Speaker 4: him out as being a guy that could sneak in

575
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Speaker 4: as one of the reserve outfield spots. But aside from

576
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 4: him yet there that's about it. Anthony Bass has had

577
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Speaker 4: a great year out of the bullpen, but not really

578
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Speaker 4: as a closer and not quite to the level of

579
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Speaker 4: dominance that takes to get in as a reliever. And

580
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 4: it's a shame that haesus Lozardo got hurt as well,

581
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Speaker 4: because it was really exciting to see what he was

582
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Speaker 4: doing just in his first handful of starts. But for him,

583
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Speaker 4: maybe he'll be a second half All Star something like that.

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Speaker 1: Alrighty, Edward carbret An, I wanted to talk about this.

585
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Speaker 1: I know you've wanted to talk about this. Isaac the

586
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Speaker 1: guy had probably the best start out of any pitcher

587
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Speaker 1: in that Cors series against the Rockies. Six innings pitched,

588
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Speaker 1: one hit, zero runs, zero earned four walks, nine strikeouts,

589
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Speaker 1: zero points, zero zero ERA anderns his first major league start.

590
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Speaker 1: The ninety six mile per hour change up is the

591
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Speaker 1: strongest strikeout ever recorded since two thousand and eight, which

592
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Speaker 1: wasn't I think when baseball savamna became the thing. So

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Speaker 1: that's why it's from two thousand and eight. And on, Isaac,

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on Edward's start. We'd actually didn't talk about

595
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Speaker 1: this on streams since we weren't on, but we'll do

596
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Speaker 1: it now. And the question that I think is the obvious, yes,

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Speaker 1: that Edward carbret earn himself another start in the major leagues.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, not only did he earn it, and I

599
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: think it's more of a necessity that he will be

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Speaker 3: pitching again as well. Yeah. Well, I wasn't able to

601
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Speaker 3: catch the first two winnings of his start that was out,

602
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Speaker 3: but I came back and just wow, he was getting

603
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Speaker 3: ahead of hitters. And I think the biggest thing with

604
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 3: him change from last year to this year is that

605
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Speaker 3: he was using his fastballs. He got a few fastball

606
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Speaker 3: strike strikeouts, and that's just so different from last year

607
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Speaker 3: because he was really depending on the change He's doing

608
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 3: so much off speed to you know, get first pitch

609
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 3: strikes and to try and finish guys with the change up.

610
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Speaker 3: This year, he really was setting it up with the fastball,

611
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Speaker 3: with the ninety seven ninety eight and then wiping them

612
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Speaker 3: out with either a change up or an off speed pitch.

613
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Speaker 3: So I thought that was, you know, noteworthy. And then

614
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Speaker 3: the other thing what Eli alluded to, which he saw

615
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Speaker 3: differently in the minor leagues was getting that different style

616
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Speaker 3: curveball that's sort of like to steal a first pitch strike.

617
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Speaker 3: He did it a few times in that start, and

618
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Speaker 3: that was really great to see it, because, wow, when

619
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Speaker 3: he has like four or five pitches that he can get,

620
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Speaker 3: he can go to at any time. He's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a really tough guy to hit. He's got the sinker,

622
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Speaker 3: he's got the fastball, he's got an incredible change up,

623
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Speaker 3: wipe out off speed stuff. It's gonna be fun to

624
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Speaker 3: watch him progress. And this is all done in course

625
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Speaker 3: field that he kept that he kept Colorado off the board,

626
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Speaker 3: and even more impressive, he gave he allowed the basis

627
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Speaker 3: to be loaded, I think in his lastenning, and he

628
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: got out of it. So he showed a lot of

629
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Speaker 3: maturity and I was very, very pleased with how he

630
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 3: threw the ball. I hope he's here to stay for

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Speaker 3: the rest of the year. Ups and downs are gonna happen.

632
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Speaker 3: But I think, regardless with the way the team's going,

633
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Speaker 3: and they would the way they let Eliezer pitch through

634
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Speaker 3: ups and downs, Edward should.

635
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Speaker 2: Have Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I'll say quickly, Eddie and then I'll

637
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Speaker 1: go to Eli here is uh He only that last hit,

638
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: not only hit, was in the sixth inning, towards the

639
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: end of his start, where he was his command was

640
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,479
Speaker 1: already becoming a little bit off, but there were poets

641
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: where his command was a little bit off.

642
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: Throughout the game itself. He hit two guys he walked for.

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Speaker 1: Oh, look at that. The Mons are starting Richard Blier

644
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Speaker 1: in this game tonight. They're starting Richard Blair as an opener.

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Speaker 4: Some live commentary for people to hear afterwards. Elias or

646
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Speaker 4: Hernandez a probable starter for Friday Night, of course, and

647
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 4: it looks like, yeah, they're using an opener for the

648
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 4: first time this year there to come in out of

649
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Speaker 4: the pen after Richard Blier. I think Blyer opened a

650
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: game last year, but again this is just unusual for

651
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Speaker 4: this year.

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Speaker 5: This year they have been I.

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Speaker 4: Guess, relatively fortunate and that they've had at least some

654
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 4: starting options conventional guys shaking it up, because, as we've

655
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 4: covered here on all our fish Stripes platforms, Eliezer is

656
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 4: just not good at being a starting pitcher in the

657
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 4: major leagues, so they're trying something different. So we'll have

658
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 4: probably more insight on that after we see the way

659
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 4: that it plays out. Just to finish off on Edward Cabrera,

660
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: I guess this ties into him a little bit and

661
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 4: that it shows that their confidence in Eliezer could be

662
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 4: slipping a little bit if they don't even trust him

663
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 4: to be a conventional starter in this particular game, And

664
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 4: it makes it all the more clear that Edward's spot

665
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 4: is he has his I would guess at the very

666
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: least until Lozardo comes back, and that could be a.

667
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 5: For Lozardo who has not.

668
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 4: Been throwing it until he gets stretched out all over again.

669
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 4: I still don't think we're gonna learn a ton about

670
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: Eddie immediately because he had this outing against the Rockies

671
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 4: despite being in coursefield. The Rockies are not a good

672
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 4: offensive team at the moment at all. His next start

673
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 4: is going to come against the Nationals writ in that

674
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 4: same bucket, one of the worst offenses that you can

675
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 4: go against. We'll find out more and to start after that,

676
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: which would be either against the Astros or against the Phillies,

677
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 4: either those on the road, and then potentially against the

678
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 4: Mets soon after that.

679
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 5: We'll learn a lot more.

680
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: About Eddie by the end of the month in terms

681
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 4: of how much better he is in last year.

682
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 5: But I'm a high on this guy. I have pretty

683
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 5: high expectations.

684
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you mentioned Lozardo.

685
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: When we went, which was Thursday, he still had not

686
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: thrown yet, so that's very concerning.

687
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: I guess.

688
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna have to go through that whole

689
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: throwing program that we see unless they go differently about it,

690
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: So we may see him in July at most, I

691
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: guess if we're really looking very very optimistic. But moving

692
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: on from Eddie, I want to go into the minor

693
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: leagues quickly, and I'm frozen, but you can still hear me.

694
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna look into the minor leagues and start off

695
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: with Triple A and just go down. Triple A is

696
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: currently with a twenty seven to twenty four record, Isaac,

697
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: if anyone stands out to you or your thoughts in

698
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: their season.

699
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: So far, the same old, the same old fellas. You know,

700
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: Laywin is cranking Jabar Homeward again yesterday, which is just incredible.

701
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: He's the guy who if they do go ahead and

702
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: trade a guy like Laywen, I think he would have

703
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 3: a big part to do with that, just because they

704
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: have some more insurance, I know, with the right headed gun,

705
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: and I think they'd prefer you know, they need some lefties,

706
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 3: so that's the only reason why I think they maybe

707
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: shy away from trading Laywin because they really do lack

708
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: some of the lefties in the system. I know they

709
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: have ble the day, but come on now, So I

710
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: think Leymen has really been impressing me. Gerar, I think

711
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: it's as much raw power anyone in the system. And

712
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: besides that, Max Meyer has been hurt, so there hasn't

713
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: been much more to pay attention to in Triple A

714
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: for me anyway.

715
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I think you're right, And the only other

716
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: player that really stands out is Braxton Garrett, who's actually

717
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: had a very good season so far.

718
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: You know, league in the next five days, he should

719
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: he definitely should especially with how Eliezer has been.

720
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: He's pitched better than the guy himself. So you know,

721
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: until Max Meyer comes back, he's definitely someone to keep

722
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: an eye out on for as an option to be

723
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: a major leaguer in this Marlin's rotation. But moving on

724
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: to another level lower, we'll go to Double A, who are.

725
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: Twenty two and twenty one.

726
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: I think they're still locked in the first place at

727
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: the moment. They're actually having a really good season. They

728
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: have a lot of players in there that are.

729
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: Fun to watch.

730
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: You have griff and Cone and Paul McIntosh, Troy Johnston

731
00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: who homered yesterday Thursday in that game against Biloxi. Problem

732
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: missing some of the names. Oh, the best player on

733
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: the team, I'm sorry, Victor Mason Junior, their center.

734
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: Fielder, Victor Victor Victor. There's two of them.

735
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 4: It's been it's been a long time that Kevin's been

736
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 4: covering prospects and he still mixes up Victor Victor with Victor.

737
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: Those are the two guys I always not sup on.

738
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 4: But anyway, you did mention Troy Johnston, and I went

739
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 4: again to him a little bit more because he got

740
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 4: off to such a bad start this year for a

741
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 4: guy that in twenty twenty one was the best overall

742
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: in the farm system the entire year and at high A,

743
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 4: so there were some concerns about.

744
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 5: How legit it was.

745
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 4: I was always suspect of his power, but I was

746
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 4: surprised to see him like hidden below two hundred for

747
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 4: April and for most of May. He is the hottest

748
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 4: hitter in the organization as of the last couple of weeks,

749
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 4: like he has. He's averaging more than two hits a

750
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 4: game over his last ten games. As Kevin dropped out,

751
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: but he'll be back with us later on. That's why

752
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 4: I'm here too, safeguarding case of these issues. But Troy Johnson,

753
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 4: I dropped him on my top thirty prospects due to

754
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 4: his slump, and he has thankfully rebounded and he's been

755
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: awesome recently. Uses all fields, makes a lot of contact.

756
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: The power is still kind of iffy, comes and goes,

757
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 4: but overall it's encouraging to see him. I don't think

758
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 4: he really has a position in the big leagues. The

759
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 4: most important thing, though, is to hit, and this is

760
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 4: an organization that we've been just saying the opposite for

761
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 4: a lot of players. If only they could hit, So

762
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 4: I don't want to discount what he's doing. It is

763
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 4: very important to have somebody with his really great approach

764
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 4: in his his ability to use all fields.

765
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

766
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: The next team I think we could go into quickly

767
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: is Beloit. They are twenty and twenty eight. They have

768
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: the worst record out of the Marlins oreg in terms

769
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: of minor leagues players that stand out, I guess Cody

770
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: Morris said Tanner Allen is in their dacks Bulon. I

771
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: think he's been lighting it up for this team.

772
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 4: Has been really great recently. Is Beloit is the hottest

773
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 4: team all these teams? They Yeah, I've heard nine of

774
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 4: their last ten something like that.

775
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 5: Entering this weekend.

776
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 4: They got off to an embarrassing start to the year,

777
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 4: especially offensively, that has finally been picking up. Na seem

778
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 4: I need to give him a shout out because he's

779
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: been their lead off hitter all year and he, like

780
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: so many of these other players in this organization, off

781
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 4: to a slow start offensively this year. But he has

782
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 4: really turned it on and now is resembling the guy

783
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 4: that he was last year.

784
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 5: In low A.

785
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: That that's important because the threshold for him as a

786
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 4: hitter doesn't need to be that high considering how awesome

787
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 4: he is defensively at shortstop. Thankfully, he's finally playing with

788
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 4: a team that is televised almost every single night, so

789
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 4: we get more examples of what he could do defensively.

790
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: He's awesome over there, and he seems to be a

791
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 4: guy that I think he was kind of worthy of

792
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 4: being an early round draft pick. He's not a sure

793
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: thing by any means, but he's definitely trending in the

794
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 4: right direction.

795
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and with Naseema's defense is just it's crazy, it's incredible.

796
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: But he walked, He walks, steels, bases, goal glove shortstop depense.

797
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: He's the one guy I know. We mentioned this a

798
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 3: long time ago, and we mentioned all the middle infield

799
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 3: depth in Miami has, you know, upper and lower levels

800
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: with minors. He is the one sure thing to stay

801
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: at short Whether he's gonna be a good orenough offensive,

802
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: impactful that well his way too, we'll wait to see.

803
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: But he really he's a He's a special glove for sure.

804
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: Yep. In The final level is lowe.

805
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: They're twenty six and twenty one obviously, that's where the

806
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: first round draft picks. Sar Khalo Watson and Joe Mack.

807
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: There's also Ian Lewis, has been one of the hottest

808
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: hitters in the whole in all of minor league baseball,

809
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Then there's Jose Salas who's

810
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: been kind of cold this season. He hasn't been too

811
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: good this season as well. But and then pitching wise,

812
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: I don't think there's many names to look over there

813
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: at but Eli may know more than that. But yeah,

814
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Lowe Khalo Watson back down to earth

815
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: after what was a very promising start to his Jupe

816
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: low A career.

817
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'd be doing our audience at disservice if we

818
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: didn't mention Khler watson struggles over the last twenty six games.

819
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: He's walking at a four point four percent clip, he's

820
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: striking out at a forty four percent clip, and he's

821
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 3: slashing one sixty two two, twelve, two ten, good for

822
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: four to twenty two ops. And that creates a twenty

823
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 3: five who weighted runs created plus, So he has it's

824
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: not like he's just been goold come down to earth.

825
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 3: He has struggled mightily. You know, these are these are

826
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: very bad numbers for Miami. Sixteenth overall pick. He was

827
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: a top five draft talent, so he was a top

828
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: five talent out of the draft in twenty twenty one,

829
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: and so this has got to be worries something, you know,

830
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: And in Jupiter it is a tough place to hit, granted,

831
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: but and a lot of the players are struggling. Like

832
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: you mentioned, Sallas isn't exactly like the World Law Fire.

833
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 3: It makes a juniors in either. I know he's not

834
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 3: a different team, but those are alarming numbers for Khali Watson.

835
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 4: I can't say I'm shocked. I looked at his numbers

836
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 4: a month ago when he was having success and the

837
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 4: approach in the swinging miss issues were there. Even early

838
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 4: on this season. It was I was questioning myself.

839
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 5: I'm like, is this all right?

840
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 4: This is usually not what good hitters look like. This

841
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 4: is not the guy that's saw on the scouting reports.

842
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 4: He got off to he was producing, but he was.

843
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 4: The strikeouts have been there throughout this year and he's

844
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 4: on the shortlist of highest strikeout rates in the minors.

845
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 4: Not just in the Marlins organization because he is number

846
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 4: one in that among Marlins prospects, but across all baseball.

847
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 4: This has been a issue. I will remind people this

848
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 4: is a tough assignment for a nineteen year old to

849
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 4: be playing every single day at full season ball. So

850
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 4: I'm not freaking out yet, but it's a little disappointing

851
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: relative to the hype around him. I think as we're

852
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 4: recording this, Baseball America just updated its top prospects list.

853
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 4: They dropped him like thirty spots, and I think that's merited.

854
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 4: I think that's that kind of reflects my own thinking

855
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 4: that he's still a very good prospect, arguably the best

856
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: hitting prospect in this organization, but he is there's risk

857
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 4: here when you strike out as much as he has

858
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 4: over such a large sample at such a fundamental part

859
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 4: of the game, there's an issue. I will point out

860
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: as if people needed this validation that the underlying stuff

861
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 4: about his athleticism. You know, his exit velocity, his sprint

862
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 4: speed is pretty special.

863
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: He is.

864
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 4: That athleticism is there, and that's why he was a

865
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 4: first round pick. There are other ways that he can

866
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 4: impact the game even when he's not consistently making contact.

867
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: Final topic I wanted to bring up is what's coming

868
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 1: up for the Marlins. I know we do the weekly

869
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: streams and all that stuff, but just taking a quick

870
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: brief look at what the month of June is going

871
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: to look like. They're playing the San Francisco Giants in

872
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: the four game set, so at the moment that they're recording,

873
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: they're playing the second game of the four games, so

874
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: like this will come out Saturday, so they would have

875
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: won or lost. They'll find out our predictions then or

876
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, you'll find out they won then. Then they

877
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: go into Tuesday through Thursday, they'll play the Washington Nationals.

878
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 2: Then they have Houston. They'll go to Houston for a three.

879
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: Game set, Philly for three games that they get a

880
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: day off, they go to New York for a three

881
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: four game set, then they come back to play Rockies

882
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: in a three game in the Mets in the three

883
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: game set at the end off the month of June,

884
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. That's a hard month. You're playing the team Houston,

885
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: you're playing the Cardinals, You're playing the Mets twice. That

886
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: is a very difficult month of June. Your thoughts on

887
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: what's coming up for the Marlins and how important is

888
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: this month of June fourteen that is trying to stay

889
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: in there, and you know, and then we'll get into

890
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: July quickly, and I think this next six games, these

891
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: next six days, this next week or so is gonna

892
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: be really pivotal. They need a capitalize if they can

893
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: sort of sneak a split or even three out of

894
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: four against San Francisco, which their.

895
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: Lineup is not that great. It's pretty good, it's not

896
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: a great lineup. And you know they had Sandy yesterday.

897
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 3: They got to win Mazzles. If they can sort ofhow

898
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 3: sneak a win with this blier Eliezer combo. Today you

899
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: have Trevor and you have you'd assume I think it's

900
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: Bert Braxton. On Sunday, you sweep the Nationals. Okay, you're

901
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: right back close to five hundred, because that's when the

902
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: you have a tough competition. You have to go to Houston,

903
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: you have to go to Philly, you have to go

904
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 3: to New York. Those are gonna be and if they

905
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: could just sort of stay afloat, stay at five hundred,

906
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: all right, fine, people will stay well, you know they'll

907
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: be indulged by that. So I think this next week

908
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 3: they really have to take advantage. They have to go crazy.

909
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: They should have swept that doubleheader in Colorado that they can't.

910
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 3: They couldn't have lost that series. Eli mentioned, that's it.

911
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 3: Hopefully Miami sort of makes up for it with three

912
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 3: out of four against San Francisco, sweeps the Nationals, and

913
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: you go into that very tough road trip, very tough

914
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: part of the schedule, and just stay one or two

915
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 3: games below five hundred during that portion, and hey, maybe

916
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 3: maybe there's a chance.

917
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, I usually have hope when Miami plays Philly,

918
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: they had underperformed, and Miami usually plays well against their

919
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: own division, especially that seemed like Philadelphia and Washington, so

920
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: they could get those games. I'll be very excited. The

921
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: games are very much scamer in New York.

922
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: That team is really really good.

923
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, these aren't the nets from last

924
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: season that were they were there and there and then

925
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they went down, crashing and burning. No,

926
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: this team got Starlin, Mark's and Mark Cannon, max Or

927
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: who's not even pitching yet, Jacob de Drom still not pitching,

928
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: and those guys are winning a lot of baseball games.

929
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: So that definitely scares me. And then the Cardinals are

930
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: a team who just does it right. You know, they're

931
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: always in it right now, they're in a wild card spot,

932
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: funny enough, So this is probably the hardest month of

933
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: the season.

934
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 4: We feel like we have a good grasp of these

935
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 4: teams right now, but so much changes within a couple

936
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: of weeks with players that are available. Like we were

937
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 4: talking about the Mets a couple weeks ago, we'd be

938
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 4: talking about, oh god, they Max Sures are there, and

939
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 4: then Max Scherzer goes out with an injury. It's it

940
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 4: happens very suddenly in terms of how these rasters change.

941
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 4: So I would not spend too much focus on the

942
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 4: teams at the end of the month because you don't

943
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 4: know which players are going to be available at the

944
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 4: time for either team, for the Marlins or their opponents,

945
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 4: or how they're going to be trending in one way

946
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: or another. But I will comment on you know, the

947
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 4: next two weeks, you know, between now and the of

948
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 4: coming unfiltered with the Giants. Yeah, the way this is

949
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 4: lining up with the Giants series is better than I expected.

950
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 4: Absolute crucial for them to really win this series, not

951
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 4: just split it. And the Nationals we've already covered them

952
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 4: about how embarrassing they've looked as a team when these

953
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 4: teams I've previously met both in DC and in Miami.

954
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 4: The Nationals are I would say they're the weakest team

955
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 4: in the entire National League at this point, and thankfully

956
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 4: there are still a lot of games against them between

957
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: now and the end of the year. With Houston and Philly,

958
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: those are curious situations because Houston has been playing. Yeah,

959
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 4: Houston is a pretty complete team. They're not a perfect team,

960
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: but they can beat you in so many different ways.

961
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 4: And with the Phillies, as we talked about the top

962
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 4: of the show, with Joe, who are already going out,

963
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: you don't know exactly how that will affect a team

964
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 4: one way or another, whether that inspires them, whether it

965
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 4: does absolutely nothing. I think a lot of us are

966
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 4: of the opinion that that's just a flawed roster, and

967
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 4: so the upside of that Philly team just isn't that

968
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 4: great because the pieces don't fit together all that well,

969
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 4: even with all the money they've put into it. That's

970
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 4: been a trend the last few years is the Marlins

971
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 4: doing a lot better against the Philly then people thought

972
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 4: they should. And now this is a year where you

973
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 4: line up the teams and it really shouldn't be any

974
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 4: excuses for why the Marlins, don't compete with them, don't

975
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 4: split all those games against them. If not something better

976
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 4: than that. You referenced, Isaac one thing that it was

977
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 4: my opinion that on this past road trip they needed

978
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 4: to pick up a couple more wins than they actually did.

979
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 4: So I'm of the opinion that it would be totally

980
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 4: surprising to me if they got back into this race.

981
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 5: I think they dropped too many games that they needed

982
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 5: to win.

983
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 4: I don't think this team has the pieces themselves that

984
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 4: you need to win at a really high clip.

985
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 5: Over an extended stretch.

986
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 4: But so they'll have to surprise me during this stretch.

987
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 5: They will have.

988
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 4: To not just win these upcoming series, but win them

989
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 4: pretty emphatically, because that shapes the way that they approach

990
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 4: things like the trade deadline. We're always thinking about the

991
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 4: trade deadline. For them to do anything other than just

992
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 4: a flat out cell, you need to put yourselves in

993
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: a position in the standings where you have a bigger

994
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 4: variety of options and the way that you can go

995
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 4: about it. So I think all of us are hopeful

996
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 4: that this team gets it together at this exact time.

997
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 4: Whether they actually do that, you gotta just let the

998
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: games play out and we'll find out together.

999
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you said, surprise, I think Sandy's pitching

1000
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: much better than he did in April. So if that

1001
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 3: continues that that's like one plus will hopefully we'll keep going.

1002
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: Trevor needs to improve. Getting Lozardo, Max and Edward back

1003
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: sort of into the rotation mix. I think that'll be

1004
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: a big boost to this team. That will help them

1005
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: sort of maybe try and pretend like they can win

1006
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 3: ten out of fifteen or you know, fifteen out of twenty.

1007
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: But it's going to be tough. Like you mentioned, I

1008
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: think I just wanted to touch on fit with Philly. They're

1009
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: like a flawed roster. I think one thing that they

1010
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: didn't see coming was Bryce Harper not being able to

1011
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: play the outfield. That really sort of screwed them. And

1012
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: now they have Kyle Schober and Nick Castianos having to

1013
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: play the corners because Bryce Harper can't throw. You know,

1014
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: he's playing with a partial partially torn UCL so the

1015
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 3: guy cannot throw the baseball and that's that really hurt

1016
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 3: the Phillies. You know, yes, he can still swing, he's

1017
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: still gonna be an MVP player at play, but not

1018
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: having hi been right field really hurt this team.

1019
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: Yep, and I think that's where we could wrap up

1020
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: episode twenty of Fish Reps and Filter. We will be

1021
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: back in two weeks, hopefully with a guest. We'll see

1022
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: how that lines up for us, but from Isaac and

1023
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: our guest Eli, we'll see you guys all in two weeks.

1024
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 1: Peace out and go Fish