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Speaker 2: Ready for another tribute, Go ahead, lour angle last hour,

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Speaker 1: Man, we have another surprise for you in fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 2: Oh is that when you're going to do them or

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Speaker 2: all right. I just want people to know that years ago,

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Speaker 2: the guy in the next toll booth collecting the tolls.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Do you remember saying that You tell that

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Speaker 1: And so I just made a sarcastic crack. It's like, well,

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Speaker 2: No, no, no. I was highly irritated and uncomfortable sitting

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Speaker 2: And I always had this thought in my head. There

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Speaker 2: celebrating one air of Karen Bass's mayor of LA and

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Speaker 1: What's the death toll since she took over? The robberies

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Speaker 2: This is what she put on X Comma formerly Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Has all that happened?

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Speaker 1: Those three people who were murdered. Yeah, the three homeless

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Speaker 2: They're inside for how long? Well, they're going into hotels.

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Speaker 2: That those are the numbers, that's what was published last week.

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Speaker 1: So there's forty six thousand homeless just in the city

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Speaker 2: People that live here know the reality. I mean sometimes

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Speaker 2: I like to think what would have been a year

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Speaker 1: It's but you know what I know he is much

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Speaker 2: That's why we called her Bassetti, because you and I

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Speaker 1: If we had another year of Garcetti and we ended

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you more than that has moved into the

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Speaker 2: One good thing on Thursday. Oh, how's this for a turnaround.

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Speaker 2: They're killers. Look at that to make La safer. Really,

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Speaker 1: Weird ritual that everybody engages in in public life, where.

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Speaker 2: Sure they did that after Garcetti for nine and a

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Speaker 1: And another farewell message for Ken coming up. Oh god,

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Speaker 2: And now another special message for Ken.

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Speaker 4: Hi can it's t Ray. Congratulations on your retirement. I

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Speaker 4: miss those early morning phone calls with John. When people

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Speaker 4: ask me what I liked best about working with you guys,

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Speaker 4: I usually say the breaking news because we did it

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Speaker 4: really well. I don't know if you do it anymore,

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Speaker 4: you hate emotional departures, so I will just say retirement

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Speaker 4: is awesome, So goodbye, good luck, and don't forget the fruitcake.

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Speaker 5: Going on eight?

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Speaker 2: Oh are you? Are you really?

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Speaker 2: I think so, you know, kind of loose perspective. Don't

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Speaker 2: you have to roll these years? It's the numbers, yeah, right,

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Speaker 5: Is it eight or seven? Now, I've got to.

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Speaker 2: I think it's about said, I don't know. Usually sent

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Speaker 6: On your aversion, I know, and because you you I

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Speaker 6: didn't do it this year, because in honor of you, Ken.

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Speaker 5: Because you hate it.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't read social media.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, No, but I send it to him as well.

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Speaker 2: thirty dollars? And that well, you know, we railed a

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Speaker 2: lot about toll roads when we started our talk show

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Speaker 2: career back East because we found out that the Port Authority,

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Speaker 2: which is the organization that runs the bridges and the

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Speaker 2: tunnels between New York New Jersey thoroughly corrupt. The mob

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Speaker 2: is involved. That the mob called us when we ran

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Speaker 2: this campaign to get rid of toll roads in New

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Speaker 2: Jersey and we had to see the actual mob mob

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Speaker 2: the real mafia called the mob that throws hack in

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Speaker 2: the dumpster right now. The real mafia called our general

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Speaker 2: manager up in New Jersey and ordered us to stop

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Speaker 2: or there were gonna be bad consequences for everybody at

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Speaker 2: the station. Seriously, we got threatened by the real mafia,

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Speaker 2: and then we realized that the entire toll road system

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Speaker 2: in Jersey was all mobbed up.

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Speaker 1: And the same thing with the you know, the toll

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Speaker 1: bridges and the port authority between New York and New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: It's a complete mob operation. Governor Kathy Hokeel has been

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Speaker 2: clear congestion pricing is critical to New York's future, delivering

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Speaker 2: better transit, cleaner air, and less traffic logging the streets.

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Speaker 2: The MTA and the board advising it came up with

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Speaker 2: fares ranging from nine dollars to twenty three dollars for

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Speaker 2: passenger cars and listened to this between twelve dollars and

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Speaker 2: eighty two bucks for trucks. Imagine an eighty two dollars

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Speaker 2: fee to get into New York City, eighty two dollars

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Speaker 2: each time. Good luck getting your delivered. Then for some

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Speaker 2: of the stores, it depends on the trucks to come

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Speaker 2: in and give them the goods to sell, right, didn't

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Speaker 2: they devastate the economy and devastations they'd have to pass

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Speaker 2: it on? Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean is that worth it to go

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Speaker 1: out to dinner in New York and go to a

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Speaker 1: Broadway show?

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Speaker 2: Is it worth it to pay that much money? Eventually

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Speaker 2: they settled on fifteen dollars for cars and anywhere from

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Speaker 2: twenty four to thirty six bucks for trucks, depending on

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Speaker 2: their side. And the money just goes to a big

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Speaker 2: corrupt machine. Absolutely, it doesn't. Well, some of it's used

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Speaker 2: to subsidize the subways and stuff like that, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: where they lose money. And the subways are like the

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Speaker 2: bridge tolls already did they probably take the congestion money

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Speaker 2: to do the same thing. And the subways are like

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Speaker 2: the mass transit here in LA it's full of crazy

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Speaker 2: drug addicts and mental patients, homeless people, people get stabbed,

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Speaker 2: people get pushed in front of the subway, pushed onto

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Speaker 2: the subway tracks in front of the trains. A day

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Speaker 2: goes by. You don't hear one of those stories, right,

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Speaker 2: if somebody being attacked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like this weird underground literally a hell

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Speaker 1: hole beneath the streets where the subways run. And and

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Speaker 1: so nobody's gonna want to take well, good, good, you

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Speaker 1: want to They really are hell bent on destroying modern life.

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Speaker 2: They really are now destroying. True, You're right. For many

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Speaker 2: big cities that the pandemic when people just stop commuting

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Speaker 2: for a while. Yeah, the riff raft took over, and

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Speaker 2: now a lot of people will not come back to

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Speaker 2: mass transit. Even in New York. They're not at the

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Speaker 2: levels they were at before that. Oh, because they don't

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Speaker 2: want to die. When does so? When does that shake out?

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Speaker 2: All these policies are stupid, they're just stupid. Oh oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: climate change, Okay, you're charging thirty dollars to keep the

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Speaker 2: air clean. You're charging thirty dollars in order to lessen traffic.

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Speaker 2: The traffic is a good thing in New York City.

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Speaker 2: I mean people are.

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Speaker 1: There, they're they're they're they're going to Broadway, they're going

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Speaker 1: to the nightlife, the clubs, the restaurants. They're enjoying themselves.

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Speaker 1: You want traffic, traffic, because you know what traffic cleared

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Speaker 1: out during COVID and and all the businesses we're going bankrupt.

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Speaker 2: Empty streets means no economy much. We'll be right back

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Speaker 2: John and Ken KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere

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Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 3: AM six forty.

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Speaker 2: On the radio one to four. After four, Johny can

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Speaker 2: on demand the podcast. I will tell you just how

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Speaker 2: bad things are getting for California, despite the governor dippity

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Speaker 2: Doo acting so smug and smart when he debated Florida

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Speaker 2: Governor Ron DeSantis. The latest deficit numbers are in, and

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Speaker 2: you know you're gonna hear it sooner or later. Tax

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Speaker 2: increases are probably coming for California and certainly gonna start

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Speaker 2: with quote the rich people and work their way down.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that right after the news at three

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Speaker 2: o'clock here on the John and Ken Show. You know,

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Speaker 2: before the pandemic? Was there a before the pandemic? To

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Speaker 2: take it back to twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, one of

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Speaker 2: the big stories was Operation Varsity Blues. That's where wealthy,

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Speaker 2: sometimes celebrity parents did what they had to do to

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Speaker 2: get their kids into colleges of their choice. Well, one

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Speaker 2: of the persons who was charged in the Operation Varsity

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Speaker 2: Blue scandal is trying to do what they call reputation repair,

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Speaker 2: and her name is Felicity Huffman, the actress who served

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Speaker 2: a few days in prison for her part in cheating

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Speaker 2: to get her daughter into the school of their choice. Basically,

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Speaker 2: what happened here was she didn't tell her daughter and

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Speaker 2: had her take a fake SAT so they could get

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Speaker 2: a good grade and to help her get into a

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Speaker 2: better school. So what we have is she's decided to

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Speaker 2: do an interview. She sat down with Channel seven's Mark

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Speaker 2: Brown for a long interview which we can't play the

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Speaker 2: whole thing, but you'll get the gist in here of

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Speaker 2: her trying to explain herself in that she did this.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen.

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Speaker 7: It felt like I had to give my daughter a

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Speaker 7: chance at a future, and so it was sort of

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Speaker 7: like my daughter's future, which meant I had to break

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Speaker 7: the law.

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Speaker 8: In December of twenty seventeen, actress Felicity Huffman drove her

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Speaker 8: daughter to take the SAT test her daughter, not knowing

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Speaker 8: that Huffman had paid fifteen thousand dollars for someone to

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Speaker 8: falsify the results.

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Speaker 2: She was going, can.

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Speaker 7: We get ice cream afterwards?

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Speaker 2: Scared about the test?

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Speaker 7: What can we do that's fun? And I kept thinking,

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Speaker 7: turn around, just turn around, and to my undying shame,

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Speaker 7: I didn't.

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Speaker 8: Felicity Huffman, star of Desperate Housewives, an Oscar nominee, one

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Speaker 8: of thirty three wealthy parents to face federal charges in

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Speaker 8: Operation Varsity Blues, accused of conspiring to use bribery and

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Speaker 8: fraud to get their kids into top colleges. The middleman

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Speaker 8: a self styled college counselor named Rick Singer.

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Speaker 7: After a year, he started to say, your daughter's not

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Speaker 7: going to get into any of the colleges that she

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Speaker 7: wants to, and I believed him, and so when he

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Speaker 7: slowly started to present the criminal scheme, it seemed like,

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Speaker 7: and I know this seems crazy at the time, that

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Speaker 7: that was my only option to give my daughter a future.

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Speaker 7: And I know hindsight is twenty twenty, but it felt

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Speaker 7: like I would be a bad mother if I didn't

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Speaker 7: do it, So.

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Speaker 2: I did it.

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Speaker 8: Huffmann pled guilty served eleven days in prison, paid a

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Speaker 8: thirty thousand dollars fine, did community service, and apologized.

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Speaker 7: I think the people I owe a debt and an

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Speaker 7: apology to is the academic community and to the students

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Speaker 7: and the families the sacrifice and work really hard to

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Speaker 7: get to where they're going legitimately.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, what the first thing you think of

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Speaker 2: when you hear this is, and this started years ago,

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Speaker 2: particularly among wealthier like West Side parents. We got to

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Speaker 2: get them into the best preschool. Oh my god, we

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Speaker 2: got to apply now when they're an infant. Right, Oh,

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Speaker 2: I saw all this. Oh I know you didn't. We're

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Speaker 2: talking about it. I left all that for almost twenty years.

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Speaker 2: And then it's, you know, about the grade school, and

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Speaker 2: then it's about the high school, and then of course

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Speaker 2: it's about the college. That's how it starts. And you

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Speaker 2: can see how some are driven to just break the

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Speaker 2: law to do it, and some parents were in a

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Speaker 2: perpetual frenzy, a perpetual state of anxiety. I remember, because

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Speaker 2: their children's future is doomed unless I make these things happen.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 1: I remember one mother and I'm not making this up,

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Speaker 1: in kindergarten that she was buttonholing parents at five year

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Speaker 1: old birthday parties, wanting to know about what kind of

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Speaker 1: schools they want to Oh the old comparison thing, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Man, we're it's five. That she was always already talking

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Speaker 2: about colleges.

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Speaker 1: There were people every time you saw them, either at

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Speaker 1: school or socially in some way, that's all they talked about.

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Speaker 1: And it got louder and more frenzied and more anxious

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Speaker 1: the closer you got to senior year in high school.

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Speaker 1: Like the high school years.

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Speaker 2: There were so many insane people. There's just so many

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Speaker 2: nutty people because they have this short list of schools.

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Speaker 2: That's it. We got to get in there or else

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Speaker 2: the future is over. There's thousands of schools there is and.

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Speaker 1: Unless unless your daughter was completely brain dead, I mean

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Speaker 1: certainly you can get to you know, state schools, community colleges.

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Speaker 2: And you say to say about her relationship with her

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Speaker 2: daughter where she takes her to a fake SAT because

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Speaker 2: she doesn't think the kid has what it takes because

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Speaker 2: Rick Singer told her that get into the school. Unbelieve

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Speaker 2: thinks the daughter is a complete dud, a total dud.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the daughter, he took the SAT and

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Speaker 2: got into Carnegie Millon, which I guess she's in the

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Speaker 2: drama program at Carnegie Millen.

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Speaker 8: Oh.

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Speaker 1: See, drama is its own thing. Though you don't have

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Speaker 1: to score genius level SAT.

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Speaker 2: You don't know. I mean, I'm just show acting skills.

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Speaker 2: You've heard, you've heard actors talk, right, and this is

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Speaker 2: a NEPO family. I mean, obviously, with Felicity Hoffman and

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Speaker 2: her husband's connections as William H. Macy, they certainly could

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Speaker 2: have gotten her some auditions. If she has any talent.

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Speaker 2: It's like, wow, yeah, I know, there was no That's

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Speaker 2: what I mean. There's no reason for that, assuming she

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Speaker 2: was into drama when she was in high school. Maybe

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Speaker 2: she didn't know what she wanted to do. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, there's always a college to go to,

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Speaker 1: and the idea that she has no future. First of all,

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Speaker 1: you're worth millions of dollars. You and your husband have

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Speaker 1: probably made tens of millions of dollars. So what do

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Speaker 1: you mean she has no future?

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Speaker 8: That's right.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna leave behind quite a bit of money. She's

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Speaker 2: not gonna end on that day. She's not gonna end

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Speaker 2: up being a prostitute on skid row. It's like, what's

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Speaker 2: the panic here. I mean, it's a mental illness, is

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Speaker 2: what it is. I've seen it up close. I can

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Speaker 2: absolutely I would testify in court. This is another one

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Speaker 2: of those panics that groups go through, and groups of

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Speaker 2: well to do, wealthy parents. And if you read the

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Speaker 2: rest of the story, we didn't play the whole interview.

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Speaker 2: She ends up volunteering community service and it also changed

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Speaker 2: her life. Elicity Huffman is now a member of the

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Speaker 2: board of this nonprofit which is not to help people.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what I mean by reputation repairs. She's

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Speaker 2: trying to make it sound like I've learned my lass

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Speaker 2: and I'm a really good parison. Look what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: Once you come out of this on the other side,

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Speaker 1: because now you could see some of the kids didn't

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Speaker 1: turn out the way the parents wanted them to, like,

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Speaker 1: not all this high pressure nonsense was good for them psychologically.

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Speaker 1: And I've seen some parents looking back it's like, what

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Speaker 1: the hell was that about? What was that frenzy about?

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Speaker 1: It's almost like they were in some kind of drug.

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Speaker 2: Induced, drug induced frenzy, right right, and that they were

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Speaker 2: hallucinating for a number of years that they had to

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Speaker 2: All Right, when we come back, more proof that the

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Speaker 2: California fun ride is over. We're headed towards even bigger deficits,

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Speaker 2: and we'll tell you how we got to this point.

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