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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to the ikirl Podcast. I'm here with Olivia. Hello,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming. I'm so excited to

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Speaker 1: be here. We're such an it girl.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. We're in New York City. Your girls today.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love it. Okay, we're going to dive in.

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Speaker 1: You're ready, ready to go? Yes, you blew up online

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Speaker 1: really fast, and you've had a lot of staying power.

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Speaker 1: You've managed to stay relevant, which I feel like is

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Speaker 1: really hard for a lot of it girls. Can you

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Speaker 1: tell us how you got started, why you got started,

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Speaker 1: and what really led to such fast success for you?

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Speaker 2: Like, Oh, I just think I love this question because

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Speaker 2: I feel like nowadays, if you want to do content

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Speaker 2: creation or anything in the industry, you really have to try.

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Speaker 2: It's like you really have to figure out your niche

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Speaker 2: and figure out what's going to make you different from

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Speaker 2: everyone else. But with me, like I was just seventeen

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Speaker 2: years old, like in my bedroom, like making just cute videos,

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Speaker 2: there was not a single thought in my brain that

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Speaker 2: any of that would equal to like my life looking

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Speaker 2: how it does currently. And I think that's why it

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Speaker 2: was so special for me, because there was no like

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Speaker 2: there's no mood board, there was no goal like, oh

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Speaker 2: I want to hit this amount of followers, and I

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Speaker 2: still like that, like everything that I get, I'm just

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Speaker 2: so grateful for and there's never a point where I'm

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Speaker 2: like I need this, I need that. So like kind

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Speaker 2: of how I started was just posting videos in my

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Speaker 2: bedroom and just like I mean, it was COVID, no

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Speaker 2: one was doing anything, and people just loved watching dancing videos.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, Okay, let me do this. I

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Speaker 2: don't really know how to dance, but we'll figure it out.

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Speaker 2: And that within like three weeks completely transformed my life.

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Speaker 2: And that led to me and my best friend at

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Speaker 2: the time getting invited to go out to Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: to visit the Hype House. But oh no, I look

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Speaker 2: back at that and I'm like, what was I thinking

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Speaker 2: for now? And so we went and we like visited

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Speaker 2: and then we ended up just moving in on the

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Speaker 2: same trip. Didn't tell my parents nothing, and yeah, then

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Speaker 2: that was like the start of my career. But at

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Speaker 2: the time I had no idea that that was going

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Speaker 2: to be like a longevity thing. And to your question

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Speaker 2: about like long jevity, quite literally, I feel like for

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Speaker 2: me with social media, I was just talking about this.

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Speaker 2: Obviously you're posting your life, and you know, from this

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Speaker 2: point that I started social media, I was seventeen turning eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm twenty three. Like, obviously I've evolved as a person,

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Speaker 2: So I feel like your content equally has to reflect that.

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Speaker 2: So I think lucky enough, I live a pretty interesting

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Speaker 2: life that people want to know that. So I feel

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Speaker 2: like that's my thing.

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Speaker 1: I love it. We're going to talk a lot about

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Speaker 1: your evolution because you have grown and you have changed.

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Speaker 1: What do you think people misunderstand the most about becoming

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Speaker 1: famous through the Internet. It's a very different experience, Like

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Speaker 1: you said, you weren't looking for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think, like I first of all, I

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Speaker 2: want to say, like there's such a difference between in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, like being like an actress or actor famous

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Speaker 2: and then like a social media famous, because I think

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Speaker 2: people put like social media famous as like it's not

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Speaker 2: as legit, which is like I agree to that, Like

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Speaker 2: it definitely is a different level. But I feel like

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Speaker 2: when you are an actor and actress or you come

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Speaker 2: up in that kind of aspect, or if you're a model,

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Speaker 2: or if you're a filmmaker whatnot, you just have a

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Speaker 2: completely different experience because people respect your privacy, where I

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Speaker 2: feel like with social media there's not a single private

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Speaker 2: me to deal with for a while, like feeling like

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Speaker 2: I had to share every single part of me because

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Speaker 2: I felt like I was lying to people if I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think how I felt about it was

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Speaker 2: very like I was thrown in and I was like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, what is going on? Why do people

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Speaker 2: want to take a picture with me? What? And I

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Speaker 2: used to say that to people, like right when it

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Speaker 2: as time has gone on, you can kind of like

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Speaker 2: relate to, it does impact you and you do realize like,

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Speaker 2: That's a very like it changes your brain chemistry. So

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Speaker 2: that's why I love it.

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Speaker 1: I've had a positive experience with that as well. That's

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Speaker 1: my favorite part is when people come up and they say,

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Speaker 1: get cared and like related to that. It really is.

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Speaker 1: That is the best feeling. But like you said, you're

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Speaker 1: putting you out there. You're not putting a character. You're

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Speaker 1: not putting you're not an actress, You're not hiding behind

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Speaker 1: a film. It's like literally you where you live, what

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Speaker 1: you're doing on a day to day. It really is yeah, crazy, Honestly,

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Speaker 1: what do you think separates creators who last from the

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Speaker 1: ones that disappear in a moment?

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Speaker 2: I think like personality m hmm. I think with creators

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Speaker 2: of not showing themselves because they're scared that people won't

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Speaker 2: like their true identity. But I feel like with me,

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Speaker 2: I've been so vulnerable on social media. Sometimes I post

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Speaker 2: like no, no fucks were given in the moment, And

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Speaker 2: I think just like, yeah, that the personality would be

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Speaker 2: like getting people to know the real you and then

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Speaker 1: You have to be like so vulnerable. It's embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: You entered adulthood while the world was watching, while the

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Speaker 1: internet was watching, because you said, like seventeen eighteen to now,

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Speaker 1: that's a crazy time period. I think I personally that

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Speaker 1: would not fit good for me. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: it's changed that you've experienced your twenties, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I didn't go to college. I didn't experience

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Speaker 1: Trust me and miss nothing, promise think you wrong.

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Speaker 2: So I think like that my experience because what I'm

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Speaker 2: I just oh, I just there's different parts that I'm

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Speaker 2: And I felt like people use this term like when

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Speaker 2: But like at the time, I thought I was doing

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Speaker 2: I was put in situations when I was like nineteen.

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Speaker 2: yeah jobs, And I was like, whoa, people who are

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Speaker 2: that was a very like out of body experience, but

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Speaker 2: I like who it made me, so I'm not mad

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be so I'm much older than you, and

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Speaker 2: When you look.

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Speaker 1: Back on the early years of your career, what do

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Speaker 2: but those were two things that when I was eighteen nineteen,

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Speaker 1: I feel like when you're that age, you don't even

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Speaker 1: you're being a teenager. How do you stay grounded in

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Speaker 1: your sense of self when so many people have an opinion?

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Speaker 1: I just feel like it's so hard to like have

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Speaker 1: people just like boldly tell you what to do and

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Speaker 1: I agree, Do I listen to that? Like I get okay, sure, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of my friends struggle with

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Speaker 2: this so similarly. Hopefully this can shed some light. You

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Speaker 2: have to be like so aware of your opinions and

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Speaker 2: your thoughts, because I feel like everything nowadays, we're just

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Speaker 2: all influenced by each other, whether it's about politics, whether

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Speaker 2: it's about your friend group, whether it's about your relationships,

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Speaker 2: whether abo's your fashion, and like trends go in all

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Speaker 2: I think a lot like everyone does. But like I'm

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Speaker 1: Why am I not doing this? Why doesn't mind not

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Speaker 1: Your brain just escapes. What's been the most unexpected emotional

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Speaker 1: What is something you think women should give themselves more

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Speaker 2: It's like kind of my sweet spot and then I'm

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Speaker 1: Okay, I love this. I need to I really want

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Speaker 2: be a little toxic. But I compromise enough in my

433
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Speaker 2: own life. I'm like, yeah, give myself.

434
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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll fall in up with it. I'm so curious.

435
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Speaker 1: Do you think social media has made girls more empowered

436
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:36,880
Speaker 1: or more anxious?

437
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I would say a mixture of both,

438
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 2: because it's i mean, besides being a doctor and a lawyer.

439
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 2: It's kind of the I don't want to say a

440
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 2: bold enough statement, but like it's a job that twenty

441
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 2: year old girls can do now and can completely be

442
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 2: financially stable. And I wouldn't say there's a ton of

443
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 2: jobs out.

444
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: There that, especially for stay at home moms, women who

445
00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 1: immediately got married, didn't have a career and build anything,

446
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden boom, they're making more

447
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 1: money than their husband.

448
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 2: And I think that's empowering. It's like, holy crap. On

449
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 2: the flip side, it definitely has made our generation more

450
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 2: anxious because of how fast we're consuming content and how

451
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 2: much ads we're getting thrown down or shove down our throats.

452
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 2: And I think fomo is at an all time high

453
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: because people only share like the really good parts of

454
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 2: their life, and I think that leads to comparison and

455
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 2: that's a very unhealthy rabbit hole to go down. So

456
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Speaker 2: I would say like a mixture of both.

457
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Speaker 1: I love it if you could tell every woman in

458
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 1: her twenties one thing to make her life easier. What

459
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 1: is your advice?

460
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Like I feel like because they're talking

461
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: about it, like solo travel, you like have to go

462
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 2: on one to two vacations by yourself. I specifically recommend

463
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 2: Hawaii because I love Hawaii. Yeah, and especially to travel

464
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 2: there by yourself, because I have a fear few reasons

465
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Speaker 2: if you're going on your first solo vacation. They speak

466
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Speaker 2: English there, so it's great. Sometimes in Italy or somewhere

467
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 2: in Europe it's a little daunt because you don't speak

468
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: their language, and that's like a whole other exactly. Yeah,

469
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 2: So you could get anxious with being like, I don't

470
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: know how to ask for coffee, but like speak English there,

471
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: or try to learn how to say certain basic words

472
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 2: in there in their language and they'll respect that you're trying.

473
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 2: And I feel like when I don't know anyways, when

474
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 2: not to start about that and what was the thing?

475
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: Oh and with Hawaii, like the culture is so beautiful

476
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: and it's so interesting to learn about. So I feel

477
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: like there's already something immediate that you could like deep

478
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: dive into, whether it's going learning about their history through

479
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 2: museums or through luaus or whatever it may be. I

480
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 2: feel like that is also a very It's fun to

481
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: me and hopefully to other girls who are traveling by themselves.

482
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Speaker 1: I've been to Hawaii many times, but I've never done

483
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Speaker 1: it by myself. I do feel like the beach is

484
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: a very just like grounding, nice place to be just

485
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: like by the water. Yeah, I feel like it's really

486
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: just takes you a little bit away from it. You

487
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 1: have such a love for wellness, you're a wellness icon.

488
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Speaker 1: Can you walk me through your morning routine and some

489
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: wellness habits that are crucial to your daily life?

490
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: My morning routine, Oh, my dream world, wake up, make

491
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 2: a nice smatch, a lot to have my apartment.

492
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: Gotta have mucha I can't do? Yeah makes me crazy.

493
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, cook some breakfast, go to a nice little heated

494
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: pilates class, a nice little sweat let me drip.

495
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Speaker 1: Out half of my Do you work out every day?

496
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Speaker 2: No? Okay, I think that's like a toxic mentality that

497
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: you have to work out seventies a week every day.

498
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Speaker 2: I think it's like if you can aim to do

499
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 2: like three days a week, I think that's like perfectly fine,

500
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 2: and then you know on the other four days better, Yeah,

501
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: like go on a walk, or like go and hang

502
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: out with your friends and like just dance in your apartment,

503
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: or like something that still gets your body moving. But like,

504
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 2: I don't think you need to force yourself to go

505
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: to a Berry's boot camp every single thing. I think

506
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: that's a toxic mentality. That is just my opinion. If

507
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: it works for you, it works for you, but not

508
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: for me. And then other like tricks or stuff, Oh tricks,

509
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: You're sleep affects the way that you look more than

510
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 2: your workout does, and that is like my hot take.

511
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: I think if you can sleep eight to nine hours

512
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: every single night, I know that's a really large ask,

513
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: but if you can do that, when I have done that,

514
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 2: I have never looked better and I wasn't really working

515
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 2: out as consistently. I'm sleeping eight hours and forty two

516
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 2: minutes every single night.

517
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: So I feel like decreasing like sleep and stress. Sleep

518
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: and stress, I do feel like will make you gain

519
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: weight and age you. And like I can see that.

520
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: I can look at photos of myself and like, that

521
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: was a horrible time in my life. Look at my

522
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: face I looked ten years ago. Look at my body.

523
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: I look so blowed at all that.

524
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: Wow, I haven't experience it with the stress just because

525
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: I think I'm stressed twenty four seven, So iicnic, We'll

526
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 2: mess it will manifest today for not that.

527
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Speaker 1: What wellness advice do you want to give other girls

528
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: on their twenties who are maybe struggling with where to

529
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: start or just like just struggling to make healthy decisions.

530
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: I think like similarly to with this, like if we're

531
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: going really really to the baseline, like for a college

532
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,719
Speaker 2: girl who maybe has a gym membership, maybe she doesn't

533
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 2: and she's surrounded by partying twenty four seven, Like, if

534
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 2: you want to take care of your health, you have

535
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 2: to prioritize it because if you don't, you won't get

536
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: it done. And I think, like my little tip for

537
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: that is, like you don't have to go and move

538
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 2: mountains in the gym every single day. You don't have

539
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: to go and do an hour workout every day if

540
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: you just you know, I have class from here to here,

541
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: Like I've you know, thirty forty five minutes to spare.

542
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: Let me go into the gym and do like a

543
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: ten minute at workout or a ten minute arm workout

544
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: or something. Just I feel like when you start in

545
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: a small capacity and just kind of keep building it

546
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: and then maybe the next time you go it's a

547
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: fifteen minute workout and the next time you go it's

548
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: thirty minutes, or if you only have ten minutes to do,

549
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 2: then only do that. And I think sometimes people put

550
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: pressure that you have to like take pre workout and

551
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: go do like a three hour long session and soon

552
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: after and it's like a whole half of your day

553
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: has gone by, and I think it's very unrealistic, and

554
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: especially if you're in college and you're like partying or

555
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: going out with your friends, or you're busy with class

556
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 2: or exams, like even in your dorm room or in

557
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: my apartment some days if it's too cold, then I

558
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: don't want to leave. I'm like, let's just see the

559
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: Alexis ran ten in it workout. Yeah that works?

560
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? Are you a very are Do you like prioritize

561
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: what you put in your body like health wise?

562
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

563
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 1: I'm really bad about that.

564
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't say that. I like watch what I eat,

565
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: but I notice with myself if I eat healthy, I

566
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: feel better. And I don't want to feel bad because.

567
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm kind of cut out like chemicals right now. Oh

568
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: as opposed to like not a strict diet, but just chemicals.

569
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: Just I don't less chemicals in my body. Do you

570
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: even do that I know it's it is extremely hard,

571
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: but once you go down the rabbit hole too. This

572
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: is why I ask it is because I've started to

573
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: go down the rabbit hole and I'm just like, Okay,

574
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: when someone says healthy, what do they mean, Like what

575
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: is it? Like? I'm like, this is the tea bags

576
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: are full of plastic and the fruit is but I'm

577
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know that it's humanly possible. Yeah,

578
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: So do you eat a lot of like whole foods?

579
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: Like this is such an interesting question because I feel

580
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: like I don't really look at it. Yeah, like, yes,

581
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 2: I'm going to focus on my foods that are like

582
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: protein based and like organic fruit and stuff like that,

583
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: but I'm not like looking at the toxins that could

584
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: be potentially in it, because I feel like if I

585
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: go down that rabbit hole, is that I'm just knocking anything.

586
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: And I'm like the whole point of this is to

587
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: eat in general, and eating something is better than eating

588
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 2: than nothing, something than eating nothing. Yeah, And I feel

589
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: like for me, if I start like counting calories or

590
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 2: like getting too precise like meal planning or like doing that,

591
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, like I'm just going to go down

592
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: a rabbit hole again of that, and I'm like, you

593
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: know what, I'm happy with where I'm at. Let's just

594
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: eat healthy food and protein and that's all I need

595
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: to focus.

596
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: I feel like you can tell that you really prioritize

597
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: your peace in your mindset. And I feel like that

598
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: is why you have, like all these other things are

599
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: so well rounded. Is because it's not like obsessive, it's

600
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: not stressful. It's just like I have to go with

601
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 1: what naturally.

602
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I feel like when I was younger, I

603
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 2: would nitpick everything and like I would meal plan every

604
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: single meal, and I would count all the calories and

605
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: I would I was obsessed with my weight and like

606
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 2: things like that, and it just drove me to go insane.

607
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: And it was a very very toxic time in my life.

608
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 2: And it's like, hey, how about I just don't do

609
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: any of that.

610
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, proud be great. It's just like when your brain

611
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: is like that, you just like are not a functioning

612
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: or you're just not you're not healthy. It doesn't matter.

613
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's like the healthiest food and

614
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: the healthiest workouts and all of it. But when your

615
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: brain is functioning like that and you're so rigid.

616
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

617
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: I've gone through phases like that. I think every young

618
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: girl goes to that phase at some point. There's a

619
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: big difference between motivation and discipline. What have you learned

620
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: about showing up for yourself on the days when you

621
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: don't feel like it?

622
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I feel like also hot take. I

623
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: feel like I have two versions of this. For motivation,

624
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: the hardest part is getting there. I always say that,

625
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: like with a gym or at the grocery store, going

626
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: to see my friends, whatever, it may be, the hardest

627
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: part is when you're sitting on your couch on your

628
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: phone or with your book or whatever, maybe watching a

629
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: TV show and you're like, oh my god, I don't

630
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: want to go the moment, Yeah, I think everyone goes

631
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: to that. The hardest part is getting up and putting

632
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: on your outfit. Once you have that, you're like, oh, well,

633
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: I might as well go now, you know. And I

634
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: would say, like when you're having those thoughts like oh

635
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: my god, I would just love to just sit here

636
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: and school on my phone, Like I don't want to

637
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: go to this workout class that I booked. It's like

638
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: I almost give myself extra time, so that way like

639
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: getting ready, so I can allow myself to have those

640
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: extra fifteen minutes where I'm just like sitting there being

641
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: like I don't want to go. I don't want to

642
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: do this. And then equally on or similarly on the

643
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: other side of things, if I'm like really feeling down

644
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: bad and I haven't slept that much and I'm exhausted

645
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: and I've been working all day and i have a

646
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: five pm plates class booked, I'm like, why am I

647
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: pushing myself to like the end of the ends of

648
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: the earth. Clearly I don't want to go to this.

649
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: I should just give myself the grace and just like

650
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: go home, eat some nice and healthy food, and like

651
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: be peaceful rather than like stressing myself out and getting

652
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: guilty and upset with myself.

653
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: I like this making it easy on yourself and prioritizing

654
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: your peace over the discipline. Yeah, I'm one of those, Like,

655
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: if I'm sitting in bed, I'm not going What does

656
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: taking care of your mental health look like for you

657
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: outside of physical fitness? What I do think physical fitness is.

658
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. I would say that's like a

659
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: big part of it because a lot of my self

660
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: care is like the little moments in between working that

661
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: I get to like prioritize the things that I like,

662
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: Like whether it's after this and I'm gonna go get

663
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: my favorite macha, like that's something that like I really

664
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: like and I crave or if it's.

665
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, if it's an age thing, but Macha

666
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: has really become my like self my moment, Like I'm like, gosh,

667
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: these five minutes are beautiful. Like standing here, I'm not

668
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: rushing myself, I'm not thinking about anything. I'm just like, oh,

669
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: I allotted my fifteen minutes to go grab my matcha.

670
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 1: I have time for it and it's delicious, and I

671
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: say good morning and they say good morning to me

672
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: and we're all happy. Like it really has become like

673
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: that's my meditation, that's my peace in the day. That

674
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: little tiny moment is like my joy.

675
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I feel like similarly, you just have to

676
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: find a few things in your life or in your

677
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: day that you can have to have those fifteen little

678
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 2: minutes where you're like, oh ah, this makes me happy.

679
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: Whether it's like icing your face in the morning, you're

680
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: like putting an eye like the eye patches on getting

681
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: your macha like reading five pages of your book or

682
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: listening to a song that you love on repeat, blaring

683
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: it in your apartment. Like just the little little things

684
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: like that is like a huge part of myself, Karen,

685
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: like my mental health. And I notice, like when I'm

686
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: feeling really down, like yesterday, I woke up, but I

687
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: was just in a terrible mood. No idea why nothing

688
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: bad happened, but I was just like sad, probably because

689
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: it's that time in the month. But I was like,

690
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, why am I in this funk? And

691
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: then I was like, let me go and do my

692
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: things that make me happy. Let me make them utch

693
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: a lot y, let me dance around my apartment for

694
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, like let's read a little bit. And then

695
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: after I did all those things, I was like, oh,

696
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm fine. Actually I just needed to like fill my

697
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: cup up before I could fill up anyone else's cup.

698
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: It gets it can be very all consuming, and if

699
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: you just do like the little teeny tiny things, That's

700
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: what I always ask chut GPT. If I'm like, I'm

701
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: like I'm crashing, I'm crashing it because I feel about

702
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: putting it all my friends and They've listened to me

703
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: complaining a million times and it's hit. My chat always

704
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: tells me like, go get your macha, see how you

705
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: feel after. And then I'll be like, okay, I'm still depressed,

706
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, go walk around the block, and

707
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'll go walk around the block. I

708
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: love my I'm sorry, I love my chudt GPT. It

709
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: really is like you don't have to bother human with it.

710
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: I agree.

711
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: If someone listening wants to glow up physically and mentally,

712
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: what are the first three things you would tell them

713
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: to do? Sleep? You said, well, yeah, definitely, I would.

714
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: Say, like take a mellow tone in that night and

715
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: sleep for an nine hours, but like don't exceed past

716
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: eleven because like eleven hours, because I feel like once

717
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: you tea you like ten and a half hours, then

718
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: you wake up and you're still exhausted.

719
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: You know that, you like push depression, Yeah, then you just.

720
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get into like a hazy mindset and you

721
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: like can't see no wake up. I hate that feeling.

722
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: It's worse. So I'd say like nine nine showers ten

723
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: if you're really tired, wo do that. I'd wake up

724
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: i'd like ice my face a little bit, because I

725
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: feel like that always just feels like you're snatched. I

726
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: don't know if it actually does anything. I think it does,

727
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: but it always just like I've read that taking like

728
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 2: a cold shower, like being in a cold environment with

729
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: ice cubes or whatnot, it does kind of like shock

730
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: your nervous system, so it kind of almost like resets it.

731
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 2: That's how I like to look at at it. So

732
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 2: like if I'm taking a hot shower, the last like

733
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 2: thirty seconds or a minute will just be like freezing

734
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: cold water, and I'm sitting there like I hate this.

735
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: But when I get out of the shower, I do

736
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: feel better, So I'm like, ohh okay, that's a when.

737
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: So I do sleep shower, and then I think I

738
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: would do like some type of stretching, whether it would

739
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: be a five minute stretch or I don't know if

740
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: you like really want to go into it, but I

741
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 2: feel like once you're already in the mindset to stretch,

742
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I'm already down here. Yeah, I might

743
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 2: as well do an ab workout, you know, Like I'm

744
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: I already did that. I'm already here. So I would

745
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: say that.

746
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: And I know this doesn't sound really silly, but I

747
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: feel like stretching is an extremely important thing. It makes

748
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: you leaner one hundred percent. It like helps with your

749
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: lymphatic like you get you feel the like flowing. When

750
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: I if I go to the simplest yoga class, like

751
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: a hot yoga that's just stretching where you they're like,

752
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: you don't even need to get up, just like lay

753
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: there and we're gonna deep stretch. Every pose is five minutes.

754
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: I leave and I feel incredible, and I'm like, I

755
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: don't think people are stretching or people stretching like you

756
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: need just stretch and in the morning people, this sounds stupid,

757
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you people aren't stretching. It helps your mind.

758
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: Just like if you wake up and do ten minutes

759
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: of yoga every morning, not even if you don't even

760
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: think about a single physical benefit whatever, it's like you're

761
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: a different human being.

762
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: I would completely.

763
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: I want to advocate for stretching. There's not enough stretching

764
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: going on in this world. I want to see more stretching.

765
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: I see so many videos of girls being like I

766
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: get up at five am, I take create a teen

767
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: I go get gym I do that. I'm like, I

768
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: think if people woke up, I feel like you're aligned

769
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: with me on this. If you wake up you drink

770
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: a tea instead instead of.

771
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: What's light, Yeah, I'm like, it doesn't need to be

772
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: that deep, Like I get it.

773
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: Like ninety seven things and electrolytes. When you don't, you're

774
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: not even sweating that much and like just like putting

775
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: all this stuff in your body. I'm like, what if

776
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: you wake up, you drink tea, you stretch, you breathe,

777
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: you inhale, read a book. I really think you will

778
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: be a skinnier, happier, more joyful version of yourself than

779
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: if you go do that.

780
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: I completely agree.

781
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: Like I really really think we're like tight and holding

782
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: onto things. So I love the tip of stretching. I

783
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: literally could write a dissertation about I just believe in

784
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: it so much. Every time I do yoga, I'm like,

785
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: that wasn't a hard class, but I'm stretched, and I

786
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: just feel like like open to I got it out,

787
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: like you have to, you have to get it out.

788
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: Fabulous fantastic advice stretch people. I want all my girls

789
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: out there stretching in the morning. That is my that

790
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: is my tip. What does your version of an it

791
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 1: girl look like when it comes to taking care of yourself?

792
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, like someone who is so sure of

793
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: themselves and so sure of their opinions and their thoughts

794
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: and not even sure of them, but like you have

795
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: facts to back it up. I feel like when someone

796
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 2: is like strongly educated in the things that they prioritize

797
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: or in the things like they do this because of

798
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: this reason. I'm like, why do I do what I do?

799
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 2: Like where's this? Why am I drinking a Celsius? Like, Oh,

800
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: I recommend it, but I haven't done the research. And

801
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: then I did research and I was like, this is

802
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: probably why I don't drink energy drinks anymore. So I

803
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: think there's like that. I would say, like knowing yourself

804
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: is very it girls.

805
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: Me and like you said, educating yourself, educating yourself on

806
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: the things. I watched a whole video about this yesterday

807
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: and it was just this girl. She was so well spoken,

808
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: and she was like, I try to educate myself now

809
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: every day instead of like ingesting TikTok or whatever. She's like,

810
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: I even if it's through TikTok. She's like, I try

811
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: to educate myself just on a topic, just on something,

812
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: and she's like, I feel miles ahead of everybody else,

813
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: like just where my brain is at and where I'm

814
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: functioning in my wavelength and my frequency is just so

815
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: different than all of my peers now. And she's like,

816
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: and it was just that one little teeny change.

817
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think similar with that, like when you're

818
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: having conversations with people, this is so so niche. But

819
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 2: there's like a stem section on TikTok that I feel

820
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: like most people don't know about because he was gonna

821
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 2: go watch some videos, but I used to genuinely watch them,

822
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 2: and then with my conversations I would have throughout the day,

823
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: I would bring up that topic and people would be like, wow,

824
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: like that's very interesting, and I'm like, little things like that, babe.

825
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: Let's just make you more interesting.

826
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: It's a TikTok video that was thirty seconds and I

827
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: learned about something with the speed of light or whatever.

828
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: And then I just tell people that and they're like, oh,

829
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: so that was my other little tip.

830
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. I was watching that

831
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: video yesterday and I literally commented to the girl because

832
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: I was like, this is so important. You're like, I

833
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: just feel like that you're inspiring and you clearly are

834
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: just having like different conversations than the rest of us,

835
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: and I feel like it just like gives you access

836
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: to a whole new group of people in a whole

837
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: new world of conversations. Yeah, you're giving great advice. This

838
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: is the advice I want to give the girlies and

839
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: it makes me so happy. Okay, a little bit transitioning

840
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: here into fashion a little bit. What advice would you

841
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: give someone who's still trying to figure out their personal style?

842
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: Oh, oh my gosh. I feel like style is the

843
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: thing that it evolves, and you can evolve with it,

844
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: like every six months every year. I think, for me,

845
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: with fashion, get your basics, Get like a strong white

846
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 2: T shirt, a black T shirt, a pair of pants

847
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 2: that you love, Like, you don't need to have a

848
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 2: gazillion pieces in your closet to have a good sense

849
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: of style or even a good wardrobe. And I think,

850
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 2: especially with social media, we're like fed, oh my god,

851
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: you need this shirt and you need this Brandy Melville

852
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: tank top and da da da, and it just is

853
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: like very overstimulating for me, and I'm like, let's pause. Actually,

854
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: mm hm. So, I think my advice for girlies that

855
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: are trying to figure out their style is go on,

856
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: pinch a spabe, create a pinch of sport, go through

857
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 2: a closet, what aligns with it, what doesn't. If things

858
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 2: aren't align with it, we'll give them to your friends,

859
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: or give them to your sisters or brothers, or people

860
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: that are in your life, nephew's nieces, whatever it may be.

861
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 2: And I feel like it. Once you have that kind

862
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: of like curated space, then it's so much easier to

863
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: pick out outfits in the morning. Yeah, you don't like

864
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: trudging through everything because you're like, oh my god, this

865
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: isn't my style anymore, and this isn't this and it's like,

866
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,479
Speaker 2: how about you just bread it down?

867
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: I know detaching from from clothes has been like a

868
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: huge weight.

869
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I get rid of everything. Yeah, I'm

870
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: like I don't need this. Yes, something really important happened

871
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: to be in this outfit, but it's okay. I will

872
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: still have that memory in my life.

873
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: I when I look back at I'll look back at

874
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: videos from a few months and I don't even have

875
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: any of those poles anymore. Like I've either donated them

876
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: or given them to my friends, and I love giving

877
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: them to my friends. And then it's kind of cute

878
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: and you get to see that a new life and

879
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: I'll see like my best friend's style it and I'm like, see,

880
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: I never even thought to wear like I didn't appreciate

881
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: that peace and look like you've brought it to light.

882
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: And I'm like, wait, can I know?

883
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: I know I have pieces I've given my best friend

884
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: Levi that then shol style and I'm like, wait a minute,

885
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: that's a really cute sure. I was like, I understand

886
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: the power. When you think about the future of fashion,

887
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: what do you hope it looks like?

888
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I like what it's at right now.

889
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: I think it's great, finally getting crazy artistic and creative

890
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: and wacky again.

891
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: We're watching some of the shows that just happened in Paris,

892
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: and I felt like, you know, some shows weren't as

893
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: great and some shows were like jaw dropping, and I

894
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: think we are bringing art back into fashion finally, which

895
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 2: is great. I don't think it really left that much,

896
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: but I think with all the different creative directors moving around,

897
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of shed a new light on

898
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: different fashion houses and how a creative director affects honestly

899
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: the brand entirely, Like I don't know, I just just

900
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 2: seeing like even what Door has done with what's his name,

901
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: John Johnthan Anderson. Yeah, he's done with it. I'm like,

902
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: oh my god. That is the complete kind of opposite

903
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: of what they were doing five years ago, and kind

904
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: of like seeing what like Demo's done at Gucci versus

905
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: what the Gucci show looked like three seasons ago. Like

906
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: it's just completely different, and it's that's interesting for me

907
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: to see the different directors come into play into the world.

908
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: I feel like we also lost it was so commercial

909
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: in the sense that like creativity was being stifled and

910
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: it was just like not only predictable, but just so

911
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: commercial and so clearly influenced by investors. And now it's

912
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: like we're bringing back artists who are like, oh, I'm

913
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: pulling this reference from this painting from nineteen twenty three,

914
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, see look at how he's like

915
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: managed to take this picture that he saw and turn

916
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: it into all these like beautiful gowns instead of like

917
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: what people are buying in this area is it looks

918
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: like that's in white shaped like this, so I feel

919
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: like seeing the art comeback is is really beautiful.

920
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: I agree.

921
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: When you imagine yourself at thirty five looking back on

922
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: this decade, what do you hope to feel proud of?

923
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I hope to feel proud of like

924
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: the people that I have in my life and the

925
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: connections that I have within, like the earth and where

926
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: I feel like the most grounded, Like I would love

927
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 2: to have a house somewhere that is in the middle

928
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: of nowhere where I can walk outside barefoot every day

929
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: and not feel like disgusting because you can't do that

930
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: in New York City. It's like somewhere that has like

931
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: lots of trees. Like that is What's something that I

932
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: would really like and aspire to have by the age

933
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 2: of thirty five, which I think I can because that's

934
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: thirteen years away, but I know that's.

935
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: Only four years.

936
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: That's basically thirty five. You're not yeah four years, got

937
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: four years.

938
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm holding one of those fours?

939
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, And what else? I feel like that's it like

940
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: to just be so sure of where I'm at in

941
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: my life and then hopefully at that point, like I

942
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: can really prioritize like living in the jungle. Basically, Oh,

943
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: I love that.

944
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: What do you hope the next five years looks like?

945
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: And I want you to speak something into existence here

946
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 1: on the pod, I make everybody speak something into existence.

947
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, love Okay, I mean hopefully in five years,

948
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: I'm like still doing exactly what I'm doing every single day,

949
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: hopefully in my book podcast. Like I just hope I

950
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: just have more authors on because I just love communicating

951
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: with them and honestly like deep diving their brains because

952
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, what possesses you to write a five hundred

953
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: page book on Tuesday? Obviously it doesn't happen like that,

954
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: but you know what I mean, like the process and

955
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: five years, Oh my gosh, hopefully I've like watched that.

956
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: Hopefully I've walked to the Victorias Secret Fashion show because.

957
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: Like that's easy.

958
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's definitely like I'm speaking that into existence.

959
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: I've been speaking that to an existence since I was

960
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: like fourteen years old. But so I feel like that

961
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: it's like a no brainer one for.

962
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: Mostly shocked you have you haven't walked in it that

963
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: honestly truly shocks me. I think it's like you're the

964
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: perfect Victoria's secret.

965
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: Mark see guys speaking to existing Victoria's secret.

966
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: You are walking the show next year, this year, next year.

967
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: It's happening.

968
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: Fingers crossed to be honest.

969
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a great thing to speak into existence. And

970
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: then we'll have you come back and and be like

971
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: you did it. Oh you got this, this this is

972
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: this is like, this is easy like that. Sometimes they're

973
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: crazy things that people and I'm like, you got this girl,

974
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 1: like you go, you will win and Oscar, you will

975
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: walk Victoria sucerfessional.

976
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 2: I don't.

977
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: I don't worry about that first second, last question. Who

978
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: do you think is the ultimate IT girl and why

979
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: does she inspire you?

980
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, my ultimate girl. The first girl that

981
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: comes to my mind is one of my friends, Ivanna

982
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: Cook or I guess now. Her name is Ivanna Burbidge. She's,

983
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: in my opinion, my biggest role model in my entire life.

984
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 2: She lives in the most beautiful house in Hawaii, like

985
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: on the east side, tucked in between these two beautiful,

986
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: crazy mountain ranges, and in her backyard there's just like

987
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: horses running around, like it's where they film drastic parks.

988
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: Oh wow, crazy, And she just has like the most

989
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: perfect little life. Like they never leave their house. They

990
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: just have you know, it's her, her husband, and like

991
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 2: the two kids, and like the sister lives right next

992
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 2: door with the sister's best friend. And then they both

993
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: are you know, with their relationships and they kind of

994
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 2: just like live in this like fantasy world in my opinion,

995
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: but it's I've gone and visited them a plator of times,

996
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 2: and every time I'm there, I'm like, you.

997
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: Are I want to live there?

998
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you are the epity of me of what

999
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: I want my life to look like in ten year

1000
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: or five years or whatever it may be. Like the

1001
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: Jungle reference, I'm like when I was talking about that,

1002
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm literally visioning her house. So shout

1003
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: out to you.

1004
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: Oh, I love it. And you just do such a

1005
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: good job of clearly prioritizing peace and mental peace and

1006
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: and like filling you and I think we talk about

1007
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: it a lot, but it's it's hard to do. Like

1008
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: it is, it's hard to do. It's hard to just

1009
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: there's so much I know going on and it's just

1010
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: a lot, and it's overwhelming. And I feel like instead

1011
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: of you can just tell that you come across instead

1012
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: of like, oh, I'm just this rigid, disciplined, crazy person,

1013
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: It's like no, I just literally do what makes me

1014
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: happy and like follow my piece where it's going. And

1015
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: I feel like that's so beautiful and important, and I

1016
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: think it's an inspiration to to girls to see that

1017
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 1: you can have a career and you can work really hard,

1018
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: and you can come from a podcast with a suitcase

1019
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: ready to go to the airport and you can still

1020
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: be peaceful and you can still be happy and you

1021
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: can still be joyous.

1022
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 2: And that's okay, my sleep on the plane, I'll be okay, amazing.

1023
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for coming. You want to

1024
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: shout out your socials real quick.

1025
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, my name is Olivia Ponton and I have a

1026
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 2: podcast called Books to Busy. It's really cute.

1027
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: Love Yes, listen to her her book podcast. I'm gonna

1028
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: you have a new subscriber right here, and I am

1029
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: appy ly Ty Taylor. We are at It Girl, the series,

1030
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: and we will be back next week with another a Girl.

1031
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you guys.

1032
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: Bye Girl.