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Speaker 2: The World's of Vigeonal podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: I did like two or three Red Zone Sundays. He

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Speaker 4: doesn't move, No, he doesn't move. There's a bathroom behind him,

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Speaker 5: So all like Paul on redst.

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Speaker 3: It's not unrealistic to think on the week of Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl we might have to cover Coach of the Year, MVP,

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Speaker 3: Assistant Coach of the Year, and several people in the

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 6: And Evans probably will be at the shrine.

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Speaker 4: Gerd Comeback Player of the Year to Han Diggs, Mister Craft,

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Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, Adam Vin, Terry, Rodney Harrison, and potentially the

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Speaker 4: Patriots might be there in the Super Bowl in Santa

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Speaker 4: Clara as well.

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Speaker 3: People gonna hate us, I mean we're talking. I love it. Evan,

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Speaker 3: Will you down playing playing at Denver how important it is?

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Speaker 4: I never do that.

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Speaker 3: Evan is underestimating the impact of playing at altitude without

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Speaker 3: proper acclimatization.

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Speaker 4: I think the Patriots should practice on the top of

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Speaker 4: Mount Washington.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty cool, lot high enough, and the deafening crowd noise.

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Speaker 3: I'm just looking at facts. Along with Seattle, that is

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Speaker 3: the loudest stadium in the league.

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Speaker 4: Measurable fact, no incorrect.

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Speaker 3: Amir has a good billboard of case the Patriots win,

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Speaker 3: the afcat is should say we'll take it from here.

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Speaker 6: I like that.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 3: I like that good, Andre good. This is Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 3: at Jillette Stadium, and it's the bye week, of course,

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Speaker 3: so we don't have a game to worry about this Sunday,

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Speaker 3: so we can relax and watch the rest of the

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Speaker 3: league either play good or bad football, and then we'll

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Speaker 3: be able to create critique it next week. But uh,

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Speaker 3: still a big show. We've got the whole gang here.

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Speaker 3: It's Evan, it's Paul, it's Me, it's Deuce, it's Alex,

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Speaker 3: Alex and Matt in the booth, and uh we'll be

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Speaker 3: here for the next two hours talking Patriots and whatever

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Speaker 3: else comes up. I got a feeling some other subjects

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Speaker 3: might might arise today. I don't I don't know when

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Speaker 3: we have our picks today. So that's very important. Got

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Speaker 7: So do you worry about that?

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Speaker 3: I do. I was just gonna say, look, I'm the

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Speaker 3: one that picked against him a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: so he still feels bad about that. I do.

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Speaker 4: Get these two over here with their gear.

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Speaker 3: All right. So you know, everyone's talking about the fact

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Speaker 3: that Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft are finalists in the

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Speaker 3: Drake may Player Offensive Player of the Week. We talked

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Speaker 4: We have a little breaking news. Oh yeah, dou tell

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Speaker 4: Traveon Henderson Rookie of the Month or the month of November.

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Speaker 4: The month in the entire NFL, not just the AFC.

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Speaker 3: That's prestigious.

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Speaker 8: Does anyone care to guess the last time a Patriots

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Speaker 3: I think I don't wait rookie, I don't know ifsive

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Speaker 3: He's defense anyway.

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Speaker 4: Rob Gronkowski, No.

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Speaker 7: Actually, Aaron Hernandez, keep going, keep going back.

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Speaker 3: Curtis Martin not that far, oh man. The good a

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Speaker 8: Kind of getting around it though, you're getting around military. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 6: Okay, Patriots player got rookie.

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Speaker 4: He did have a that's not established really.

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Speaker 3: So who would you say, this is a tough one.

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Speaker 7: That's a big question, big question.

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Speaker 4: Curtis Martin, yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds right.

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Speaker 3: On your own time.

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, it was like Stanley Morgan, you know,

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Speaker 4: Might be the best guard of all time.

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Speaker 7: He may be the best offensive lineman of all time.

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Speaker 7: Nothing personifies how bad you a franchise is. When that's

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Speaker 4: You have no respect for the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: I also got it. Henderson is also the Pepsi zero

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Speaker 4: He's the rookie of the week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Henderson from this week.

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Speaker 3: This is different.

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Speaker 4: It's a different award, I know, but from this past week.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm up on the award.

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Speaker 7: Were there any other rookies that played this week?

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Speaker 7: Maybe it's I think well deserved. He had a huge

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Speaker 3: Look it up.

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Speaker 4: The NFL is saying that that is the case that

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's two different awards, but yeah, well deserved for

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Speaker 3: It's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 8: I not to go backwards, but I was just going

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so went to the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 7: I just remember and running for one hundred yards against

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Speaker 7: Bill Belichick's defense in his first every game.

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Speaker 6: And stopped the run going to the Jets.

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Speaker 3: That's bad.

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Speaker 7: These things happened.

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Speaker 3: I remember. I remember when Parcels was here, I reminded

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Speaker 3: Martin had. You know, the guys were all like, you know,

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Speaker 6: That sounds like part.

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Speaker 7: That's why you called him boy Wonder.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one game.

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Speaker 4: One out when you hear things like that about parcels,

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Speaker 4: He's more of that than Bill.

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Speaker 5: He's a mix of the two of them.

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Speaker 7: He has Belichick's a lot of Belichick's sort of ideologies

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Speaker 6: Say, why is that nicer way?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, so good stuff. Anything else, anything else we

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Speaker 6: Evan's battle with the Broncos fans continues.

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Speaker 7: Yeah does it? Oh we have yeah, do tell I didn't?

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Speaker 3: P So do you think the city has a home

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Speaker 7: Then chooses not to run.

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Speaker 3: Seattle They're pretty.

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Speaker 4: Loud, really really tough places to play, all of.

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Speaker 7: Seattle is a tough place to play. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 7: the emailer included Seattle in his thing. Seattle and Denver

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Speaker 7: the two loudest places.

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Speaker 3: Kansas City would argue with that.

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Speaker 4: I would say that that's incorrect.

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Speaker 3: Kansas City had the Guinness Book of World Records there.

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Speaker 3: One night they broke the decibel.

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Speaker 3: Who?

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Speaker 4: But who's doing world records?

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Speaker 7: Okay, I never I've never seen that.

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Speaker 3: I was there the night that they did it.

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Speaker 7: Oh so they set out to do it.

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Speaker 7: Talking about it's random week three that was the highest one.

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Speaker 6: Now sounds like a participation trophy, right of course they tried.

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Speaker 6: Seattle is loud, no matter what. Like that was what

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Speaker 5: Well, I go to Seattle, I was.

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Speaker 8: There in whatever in two thousand and eight, with Matt

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Speaker 3: It starts in the huddle.

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Speaker 6: They're screaming like you guys are going nowhere. But they

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Speaker 7: That'd be the best part of going to the Super Bowls.

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Speaker 4: I been to San Francisco Stadium.

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Speaker 3: I'm going on a new one.

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Speaker 5: No, I went to the Candlestick.

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Speaker 4: It's fine.

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Speaker 3: To the stadium, it's fine. Yeah, the stuff we sees,

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Speaker 4: It's tough to say what the atmosphere was because the

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Speaker 3: You're saying, not like a pretty much Yeah, look at

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Speaker 3: One side of the stadium is like a building.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's lower seats obviously, but most of it

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Speaker 6: So George George George Glass.

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Speaker 3: Eight five five pass five hundred is the hotline. Uh

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Speaker 3: to add. I know it's I feel like we go

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Speaker 6: Yeah we got.

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Speaker 8: I feel like I got day before vacation vibes, at

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Speaker 7: And it's Mike's way of telling you he's not going

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Speaker 3: Where you're going.

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Speaker 4: We're going to Vermont.

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Speaker 3: Of any place in particular.

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Speaker 6: We're going to Stow, Vermont.

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Speaker 4: No, no skiing.

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Speaker 6: I don't need to push it again. So no no skiing,

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Speaker 8: I think it's good to get away from your domicile abode.

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Speaker 4: See, I'm the total starting this. I'm the total opposite you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just off on this Oh yeah yeah. This

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been nice you guys get the weekend off.

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Speaker 5: What we're gonna have.

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Speaker 7: Willem aguinness is going to be by on Saturday. Saturday,

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Speaker 8: What was like fore fair watching Bille McGuinness like evolve

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Speaker 9: Okay, And I was like, ah, I was looking around,

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Speaker 3: He put Brian Moorey in a locker literally, really believe

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Speaker 3: I believe so, yeah, all of them against Jacksonville that

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Speaker 8: So passionately loves the Patriots pro and then just all

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Speaker 3: Like, I remember a lot of great plays he made,

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Speaker 7: The injuries were an issue. And then I think Belichick,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, guys like Rabel too, like you know, a rotation

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they had they had six line.

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Speaker 4: Back for You would have loved this, Rosie Colvin, you

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Speaker 7: Three four defense would have been right up your alley.

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Speaker 7: They had six guys for four spots. Not that they had.

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Speaker 5: Literally had this keen studs, this is unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: This is easily one of the best defenses of all time.

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Speaker 8: But for me, there was like a confidence in that

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Speaker 6: Right, like fourteen was a good defense.

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Speaker 8: But I never felt the same confidence I had that

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Speaker 7: You guys were operating at a higher level.

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Speaker 7: But it was even like you know, I throw like

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Speaker 5: The game has changed a lot, but like.

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Speaker 7: Now you're sort of plugging in guys that you know, like,

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Speaker 7: up being every play like him and Rabel played like

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Speaker 7: over a thousand snaps.

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Speaker 5: Like but I was so good.

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Speaker 3: I remember with Fifer. In order to get him here,

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Speaker 3: Bill had to give make a deal that because he

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Speaker 3: lived in California, you could go home and not come

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Speaker 3: back to Wednesday.

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Speaker 7: Because he was going through a divorce and he wanted

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Speaker 7: to see his kids, and Bill let him. Bill let

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Speaker 7: him come back on on uh on Wednesdays, he would

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Speaker 7: he would skip Monday and Monday and Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Speed writes an email which reminds me of one of

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Speaker 3: my commute takes that I developed, and it has to

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Speaker 3: do with the whole Oh, they got a soft schedule

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Speaker 3: and all this stuff. Everyone agrees that there's not a

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Speaker 3: lot of, you know, difference between teams in the league

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Speaker 3: in terms of score. A lot most of these games

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Speaker 3: are one score game, So what does the schedule matter? Like,

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Speaker 3: if you're ten and if you're eleven and two in

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Speaker 3: this league, even if your schedule data wise is the softest,

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Speaker 3: there's still not a lot of separation between teams in

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Speaker 3: this league, So what does it matter?

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Speaker 4: I think that's a fair take.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good take. I do.

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, if one of my nerd friends

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Speaker 4: did a deep dive on this and found out that

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Speaker 4: the difference between I think I should get this right,

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Speaker 4: but the difference between the Patriots schedule and I believe

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Speaker 4: the hardest schedule in the league is the difference of

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Speaker 4: like point zero three EPA. Like it's like literally like

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Speaker 4: a fraction. And the difference between Drake May's schedule in

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Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford's schedule when you just look at the defenses

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Speaker 4: that the two not the teams overall, but just the defenses,

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Speaker 4: is like this like minute minute decimal of difference in

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Speaker 4: terms of expected points added or EPA. So it's I

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Speaker 4: know Paul's going to disagree, but you know.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a fact that they have the easiest schedule.

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Speaker 3: But what does that mean? You have to look at it.

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Speaker 4: He did a whole deep dive because they were talking

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Speaker 4: about Drake May MVP and people are holding the schedule

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Speaker 4: against him, and he was saying that if you look

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Speaker 4: at it, the schedule difference between him and Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 4: is in terms of the defenses that they went up

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Speaker 4: against is minimal, right, It's decimal points YEP.

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Speaker 8: So anyway, yeah, I just like to watch good games

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Speaker 8: against teams to get me excited.

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Speaker 6: That's like, I mean, the schedule stuff to me, That's

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Speaker 6: what it really.

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Speaker 8: Comes down to, is like I I just prefer to

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Speaker 8: watch games against good teams, you know, exciting teams, you know,

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Speaker 8: and well, you know, meaningful.

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Speaker 3: Games, and meaningful games usually occur with teams that are

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Speaker 3: good and they have stuff to play for it, especially

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Speaker 3: this time of the year.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's there's thirty two NFL teams.

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Speaker 3: So so anyway, eight five five Pass five hundred is

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Speaker 3: the Hotline podcast at Patriots dot com is the email address.

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Speaker 3: Let's you know, it's getting colder out, sure is so

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Speaker 3: I hope that you're ready for some snow because I'm

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Speaker 3: predicting we're gonna have a lot of snow this one.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry what I had.

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Speaker 2: Seven inches of snow this week, did you?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Monday Tuesday, after we finished.

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Speaker 10: The Mountains, when we were finished recording that show on Monday,

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Speaker 10: I maybe hung out for an hour and then tried

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Speaker 10: to go back. I saw like three cars spun out.

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Speaker 10: The roads are terrible. The pike was not ready for

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Speaker 10: any snow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a ton I had to.

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Speaker 4: Clean my car.

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Speaker 7: It was like snow outside of four ninety five, Like

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Speaker 7: I didn't get any snow at all, like not even

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Speaker 7: a coating really, but I knew there was some snow.

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Speaker 7: I didn't realize it was like like significant snow.

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Speaker 4: We got a little overnight, little dusting overnight that I

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Speaker 4: woke up to.

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Speaker 3: But other than that, well, it's there's more coming and

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Speaker 3: it's going to continue to fall. And what it does,

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Speaker 3: Aaron's is ready to help you tackle it. Aaron's is

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Speaker 3: proud to be the official snowblower of the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Visit aarons dot com to find your arrans. So I

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Speaker 3: started mine up last week, just to make sure we're

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Speaker 3: good to go. We're good to go. No, I plug

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Speaker 3: it electrics in.

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Speaker 6: Oh, it's a it's an electric.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you bring the extension court out.

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Speaker 6: You gotta keep it plugged.

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Speaker 3: You can, you can pull it, but it's much easier

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Speaker 3: to just plug it in and press a button.

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Speaker 5: And that's an electric snowblower.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I like it.

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Speaker 6: I like that you had an electric lawnmower.

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Speaker 3: Well, you don't charge it, there's no battery.

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Speaker 7: But this is when I was Yeah, when I was

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Speaker 7: little and I had a running over extension course ten

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Speaker 7: of them. Easy, easy. But I had, like I lived

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Speaker 7: in Edward, we had a tiny like Alan was like

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Speaker 7: maybe twice the size of the studio.

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Speaker 3: What do you need?

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Speaker 7: He didn't need a John Deere, you know, or an Errands,

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Speaker 7: so we did.

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Speaker 5: We had an electric lawnmower. Yeah, plug it in.

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Speaker 7: The in the garage. That's what I have.

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Speaker 3: I go around. I have one now and every once

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Speaker 3: in a while I would back up, Well you should

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Speaker 3: get the robotic one.

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Speaker 4: Just sit back.

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Speaker 7: I've said this before.

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Speaker 5: It's a sneaky It's a sneaky.

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Speaker 7: Thing that I complain about that I actually like doing.

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Speaker 7: I enjoy cutting the grass.

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Speaker 6: You do a fall clean up at all, you guys

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Speaker 6: raking leaves getting I.

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Speaker 5: Did some leaves about two weeks ago.

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Speaker 7: I could probably do another one at some point over

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Speaker 7: the weekend, but probably won't because I'm going to go

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Speaker 7: in the Evan route instead and just sit on my

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Speaker 7: butt and watch football.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand raking leaves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just going you don't understand it?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, why do Aesthetically I understand, but from an ecosystem perspective, like,

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Speaker 10: why wouldn't you just want it?

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Speaker 2: It's a decompose into the grass.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing, nutrients.

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Speaker 3: If you do have a nice lawn, or you care

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Speaker 3: about having a nice if you leave it there all

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Speaker 3: winter and then the snow gets on it, it's not

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Speaker 3: good for the lawn. Really. The mulchit you can get some.

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Speaker 7: You can get some like brown spots and beare spots

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Speaker 7: because it can kill the grass. But it's gotta be

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Speaker 7: really bad to do that for the most part. Like

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Speaker 7: I don't have that much, and I just have like

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Speaker 7: a small leaf blower and I just go spend.

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Speaker 3: Like a half flowing into the neighbors.

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Speaker 5: You sucked them up and it comes into a bag

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Speaker 5: and you just empty the bat.

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Speaker 4: I used to break leaves for some cash on the side,

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Speaker 4: raking leaves, not a little blue collar. And then I

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Speaker 4: can't give myself too much credit because one time I

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Speaker 4: thought it would be cool to put the car stereo

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Speaker 4: on while breaking the leaves, and I killed the car.

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Speaker 4: And so I'm parked in this like stranger's driveway and

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Speaker 4: need them and uh, And I go to get back

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Speaker 4: in my car with my friend who was we were,

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Speaker 4: you know, doing it together business partner correct, And I

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Speaker 4: gotta and I called my dad. I'm like, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: think the battery is dead. And he was like how

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Speaker 4: And I was like the radio for the last three hours.

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Speaker 3: Man, all right, So it wasn't all good. It was

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Speaker 3: all right, Well, we got a lot on the table.

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Speaker 3: None of it's football, but.

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Speaker 7: Oh yes, some of it was Charvion Henderson.

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Speaker 3: I know, by the way, Pepsi sugar zero, it's a

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Speaker 3: fan vote. Yeah, so that might explain why, because are

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Speaker 3: you reads? Our fans are very active emails while he

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Speaker 3: was saying it, our fans are very active.

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Speaker 5: Correct, strong showing in the Pro Bowl voting already too.

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Speaker 3: Right, Michael's in Texas. What's up, Michael?

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Speaker 12: Hey Thursday?

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Speaker 3: You too?

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Speaker 6: Thanks?

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Speaker 12: Hey, I got a quick question. So I know that

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Speaker 12: the road to the first seed has it has its obstacles,

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Speaker 12: But as for winning the division outright, I am kind

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Speaker 12: of curious. So if if the Bengals win this weekend

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Speaker 12: against the Bills, does that mean that no, in theory,

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Speaker 12: regardless of the outcome next weekend, would we win the division?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 12: Okay, that's all that I was curious of if I

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Speaker 12: should be watching for that kind of an excitement, So

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Speaker 12: then regardless, we still need to be winning against the

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Speaker 12: Bills to want Well.

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Speaker 3: We don't have to beat the Bills to win the division, but.

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Speaker 7: If they do beat the Bills automatically, right, it's over right,

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Speaker 7: clinches it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but they if they beat the Jets and the Dolphins,

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Speaker 4: they can lose to the Bills, right and still win

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Speaker 4: the division. Right, But then you probably have to wait

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Speaker 4: maybe even all the way till Week eighteen against the

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Speaker 4: Dolphins to officially clinch. So let's not let's not go down.

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Speaker 3: The best way is just beat the Bills and the

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Speaker 3: hat and T shirtuts and it's done at home.

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Speaker 6: What are the conference clinching scenarios.

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Speaker 4: Like this gets very confusing?

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Speaker 3: Yea.

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Speaker 4: So there's conference record, which is the number one tiebreaker,

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Speaker 4: thanks Michael. Then there's win percentage against common opponents because

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Speaker 4: there's no head to head because the Patriots aren't playing

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Speaker 4: the Broncos, so that's not going to be that's the

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Speaker 4: first one. Then there's win percentage against common opponents, which

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Speaker 4: as long as the Broncos beat the Raiders on Sunday,

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Speaker 4: they're going to have in their favor. So the Patriots

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Speaker 4: are going to have to have a better conference record

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Speaker 4: than the Broncos, which I believe. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: that's going to be possible based off of the rest

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Speaker 4: of the schedule. So really, the Patriots are gonna have

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Speaker 4: to finish with a better outright record than Denver. If

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Speaker 4: both teams win out, Denver is going to be the

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Speaker 4: number one seed, so they have they have to be

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Speaker 4: able to.

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Speaker 3: To lose.

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Speaker 4: But Denver has a tough back end of their schedule. Yes,

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Speaker 4: so it's Green Bay, Kansas City, Jacksonville Chargers to wrap

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Speaker 4: up the year.

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Speaker 7: For the little tougher than the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they're running the table against those fields.

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Speaker 7: But if they go let's say they go three and

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Speaker 7: two and the Patriots go two and two, I think

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Speaker 7: Denver would get it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know correct, So it's not because they're both

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Speaker 4: six and two in conference and then the Patriots finish

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Speaker 4: all four games are in the a f C. So

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Speaker 4: if the Patriots, you know, lose, go too and two

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Speaker 4: in the conference, you know, the end the year, then

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Speaker 4: they're going.

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Speaker 8: To lose the Maybe in the newsletter next week we

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Speaker 8: should start doing a little rooting guy like you know these.

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Speaker 4: Are well the Bills did that and got dragged that

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Speaker 4: I'm not doing it.

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Speaker 3: Then we don't have to because the teams they had

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Speaker 3: to root for were the worst teams in the league.

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Speaker 4: Well, they also don't have to promote it on social media.

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Speaker 7: Why do you get everybody does that?

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Speaker 4: Not a team.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen a team do that.

674
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Speaker 7: Did they like what?

675
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Speaker 6: It was like a social thing where yeah, with social graphic.

676
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Speaker 2: It's our subculture as the back.

677
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 4: It's very different. It's very different than what the Bills posted,

678
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: like we're rooting for like the Giants and the Raiders

679
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 4: and the Titans.

680
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it was like, here's your rooting Guyea, Bills,

681
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: here's your rooting guide for this weekend. We listed these

682
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: teams and they were all the worst teams in the league,

683
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: and people were like, you know, good luck with that.

684
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 7: Well dragged.

685
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Speaker 5: They were like, you have no chance of that.

686
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Speaker 3: Now.

687
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Speaker 7: They were also getting because I've done that.

688
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, but you're not patriots social.

689
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 7: No, But I put on the of the common then

690
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 7: I tweet out the link. So what's the difference you

691
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 7: did do that?

692
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 4: Of course, the difference is that people have to click on.

693
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 5: I haven't done it in years.

694
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 4: For obvious.

695
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 10: People have to click on a link or on Twitter

696
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 10: and social media. It's like, here, make fun of me,

697
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 10: and this is on a silver platter for you to

698
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 10: do it. No one has to click anything.

699
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: It's just there. You know, it's easy trolling.

700
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 4: It's it's a different climate, as I found, which is

701
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: why fans.

702
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Speaker 7: This is why I don't tweet, because I would think

703
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 7: that that's information that your fans are interesting. Like what

704
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 7: what Evan just explained about the whole conference record for

705
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 7: Denver and the Patriots.

706
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 5: I don't think every Patriots fan knows that.

707
00:31:55,280 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 7: Often what you're worried about that just win and you

708
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 7: don't have to worry about Obviously you're rooting for your

709
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 7: team to win. But like if you're like to Evan's point,

710
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 7: like Patriots fans, you know, root for the Raiders this week.

711
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 10: In one way, you're presenting playoff scenarios in kind of

712
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 10: a more professional way, like editorially, and the other is like, hey,

713
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 10: root for all these teams that have no chance and

714
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 10: just make fun of us.

715
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 7: But see, I mean, I won't now and we don't

716
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Speaker 7: really write anything anymore, so I don't have to worry

717
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 7: about it. But you don't anything we have to mean,

718
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 7: I mean, you want breakdowns like basically the only thing

719
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 7: we write it. I appreciate that, but the Raiders. The

720
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 7: Raiders were like that be a rooting guide. I would

721
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 7: be if I was still doing what I had done

722
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 7: the last five years, I would be writing, this is

723
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Speaker 7: your rooting gude this week?

724
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Speaker 2: You want do you want to do it this week?

725
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Speaker 12: No?

726
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Speaker 7: Evidently it's the worst thing in the world. You are right, Alex,

727
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 7: thank you for that. I can't smoke, but I don't

728
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 7: want to invite the smoke.

729
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Speaker 4: I also think that it was partially like we're this

730
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: is the Bills we're talking about, Like this is a

731
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Speaker 4: team that's supposed to be a Super Bowl contender, and

732
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 4: they're like, we got a root for the Raiders, you know.

733
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: Like so it was.

734
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Speaker 5: Just out of curiosity. But would it all be inside

735
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Speaker 5: the one twenty eight area?

736
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Speaker 7: Yeah, because that's what this sounds like to me, because

737
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Speaker 7: I absolutely been rooting for the Raiders if I were

738
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Speaker 7: a Patriots fan this week. And I don't think it's

739
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Speaker 7: anything embarrassing about Yeah.

740
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Speaker 4: No, I said, the ESPN has a playoff machine that

741
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 4: you and I spend a little bit too much time

742
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 4: valuable tool, and so you can what you can do

743
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 4: is you can pick the games and then it tells

744
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 4: you how it impacts the standings. So I've gone through

745
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: and done plenty of permutations with the Denver Broncos and

746
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 4: the Patriots to figure out how we don't have to

747
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 4: go to Denver early for me to do it, but

748
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: that it's only four weeks.

749
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Speaker 7: The ESPN Playoff Predictor is one of the most valuable

750
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 7: tools out there because.

751
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Speaker 4: We all don't want to go play in Denver. So

752
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out how do we avoid playing

753
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: in Denver.

754
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Speaker 5: Attitude we played bro, I don't.

755
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 4: Because I'm taking Drake. Yeah, but weren't you the.

756
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: One last week saying you don't want to play in Denver.

757
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: Weren't you the one saying that.

758
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 7: That's probably me?

759
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 4: There's no way that was I thought you were.

760
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Speaker 2: You were the one saying Evan was getting told for

761
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Speaker 2: dismissing Denver not caring.

762
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Speaker 7: I know now he is, but I thought I have

763
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 7: to defend Evan actually said that he would rather play

764
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Speaker 7: Kansas City than Denver.

765
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Speaker 4: I did, and that's how this all started.

766
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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, you know a lot of people.

767
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Speaker 3: Maybe you were the one saying I don't want to

768
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Speaker 3: play Kansas City.

769
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Speaker 4: I don't want to play Kansas City. Why is that

770
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Speaker 4: because they have Patrick Mahomes Okay, have freaking.

771
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Speaker 3: Nothing to do with their city, because we wouldn't playing

772
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Speaker 3: right now. Yea.

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Speaker 4: My whole take on this has been the same. I

774
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 4: just don't want to play like. I'd rather play like

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Speaker 4: not the good quarterbacks, Like, if they can avoid Burrow Mahomes,

776
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 4: Lamar Allen, they get a road that is, you know,

777
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones and bow Nicks to the Super Bowl. I agree,

778
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: like I would much rather that.

779
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 2: Run scarier than the offense.

780
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I've said significantly.

781
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been consistent.

782
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 4: The future Hall of Fame quarterbacks.

783
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Speaker 3: Don't know scared all right, let's go to you and

784
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 3: I don't like that. I lock you. Let's go to

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Speaker 3: Tony in Canada. What's up Tony, Tony, Hi, guys.

786
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Speaker 13: Good morning. So yeah, I'm kind of glad that we

787
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 13: won't have things locked up until next week when we

788
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Speaker 13: play Buffalo, assuming we beat them. But listening to Alex

789
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 13: and Barth Catch twenty two on their last show, they

790
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 13: talked about how the Patriots have been struggling lately to

791
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 13: shut down the running game. So I'm wondering is that

792
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Speaker 13: a possibility. Can we lock that back up again and

793
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Speaker 13: really you know, keep Buffalo because I know that's how

794
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 13: we won our last game. I think we we put

795
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Speaker 13: it on their running game and we were basically able

796
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Speaker 13: to shut out the rest of it. Is that a

797
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 13: possibility that we can do that? And if not, how

798
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 13: do you guys see us winning welcoming playoffs?

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Speaker 3: I think it starts at least that week getting Tonga back. Yeah,

800
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 3: that would that would really help. But then you know

801
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Speaker 3: you're not gonna have Milton Williams and he was a

802
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Speaker 3: big part of stopping the run.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's the good news is that they're

804
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 4: supposed to get both Tonga and Williams back.

805
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Speaker 3: Oh you think so, well, not for this game, but

806
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 3: yeah eventually yeah, but he's talking about the Buffalo.

807
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 4: Thought, Oh yeah, but like big picture, Oh yeah, they're

808
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 4: gonna get maybe even Tonga back after the bye, so

809
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: it's you know, help is on the way. But over

810
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 4: the last month, their run defenses down near the bottom

811
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Speaker 4: of the league in pretty much every stat you know,

812
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 4: yards per carry, e PA, rush success, whatever, So they've

813
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 4: kind of fallen off a cliff like they were great

814
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Speaker 4: for the first nine weeks of the season, and Milton

815
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 4: Williams gets hurt, Tonga gets banged up, and all of

816
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 4: a sudden, the run defense is falling apart a little bit.

817
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: So Buffalo ran for two forty nine against Pittsburgh last week,

818
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 4: and then you have Baltimore the following week, so that

819
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 4: is and they're not going to get Milton Williams back

820
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 4: for either of those games, right, So it is a

821
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Speaker 4: little scary.

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Speaker 8: You just hope that, you know, guys like splain maybe

823
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 8: the heel up a little bit, get a little bit refreshed.

824
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Speaker 3: Night.

825
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 8: Seems to me like that as I've read more, it

826
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Speaker 8: seems like management with Spalaine getting him off the field,

827
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 8: getting Landry off the field, that was you know, we

828
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 8: were wondering if he was sick, if he got hurt.

829
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Speaker 6: But it seems like so.

830
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Speaker 7: I'll ask you, I'll last dream makes sense. I'm not

831
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Speaker 7: sure about the other.

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Speaker 3: I'll ask you ball knowers. If you go into Buffalo

833
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Speaker 3: and the next week Baltimore without Milton Williams, does going

834
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Speaker 3: man to man more help you.

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Speaker 4: Try to scheme to stop the run because you can

836
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 4: get the extra hat in the box. Yeah, I guess

837
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Speaker 4: In theory. You know, I would like to see them

838
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 4: maybe play some bass against Buffalo.

839
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: But what is based on this team?

840
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 4: Base defense? But what is their base just four guys no, no,

841
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 4: like through actual base defense. Yeah, not basically Spline and

842
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 4: Gibbs like like like by definitely like the actual base

843
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 4: No Marcus Jones, four defensive backs Mary, Yeah, because I don't.

844
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Speaker 4: I just don't think that, you know, Buffalo's downfield passing

845
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: game is anything to worry about, especially with your corners.

846
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Speaker 7: So it's not wrong.

847
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Speaker 4: I think they're going to reinvent themselves a little bit

848
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Speaker 4: around James Cook being sort of the engine of their offense,

849
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Speaker 4: because that's their best thing they got going right now.

850
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 4: And if I'm the Patriots, I'd put five guys up

851
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 4: on the line of scrimmage and I challenge them to

852
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 4: throw the ball down the field against Davis and Gonzalez.

853
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 6: The mobility though of Allen and and Lamar Warre you

854
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 6: the man defense, it.

855
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 7: Would worry me a little bit. And it also the

856
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 7: stage of the season that we're in with those two

857
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 7: teams and the desperation factor I expect to I don't

858
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 7: know about Lamar because he clearly is not healthy, but

859
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 7: with Allen, I think you might see a different version

860
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 7: of Allen. And I'm not talking about playing better than

861
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Speaker 7: he did in the first game. Just like Superhero Allan,

862
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 7: this is the time of year. We can't afford anymore

863
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 7: slip ups. We need this game and he's gonna get

864
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 7: Superman it.

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Speaker 4: I just wonder if you know, if you put if

866
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Speaker 4: you're rushing five or using the five guys in the

867
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Speaker 4: line of scrimmage to stop the run, in theory, you're

868
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 4: covering all the gaps on the line of scrimmage. So

869
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 4: like if you play with discipline and in your sound

870
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 4: and your gaps, like you know, you can make it

871
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 4: so that he can't really go anywhere, you know, if

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00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 4: you're if you're on your p's and q's with it.

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00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 4: But you know, I just I watched Buffalo and you

874
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 4: can't let them run on you like they did against Pittsburgh,

875
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 4: like you have to. Like that's that's the engine of

876
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 4: the offense right now, is James Cook and they're running games.

877
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Speaker 7: And I do get that they ran for a ton

878
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 7: of yards. I just you don't score doing that. But

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00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 7: it's and I'm not being stubborn, like they only scored

880
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 7: nineteen points. But Pittsburgh never had the ball either, So

881
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 7: all that time that they're running like that, you can't score.

882
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 7: And that's got Drake May on the sideline. That's got

883
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 7: to be part of you know, that's probably part of

884
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 7: Sean mcdermot's mindset. If he does what Evans saying and

885
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 7: turns it over to Cook and they have success doing it,

886
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 7: they might not score a lot of points, but they're

887
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 7: going to keep the score down.

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Speaker 3: I wonder though, because Rogers didn't look good in that game,

889
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: their offense. Steelers offense didn't look good.

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Speaker 5: I wonder if the Steels offense is terrible.

891
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I wonder if they if the Bills were

892
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 3: playing a good offense, how that would change what they're doing.

893
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 7: Well, I would just say, like, in the first half,

894
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 7: did you watch the game at all? Yeah, seriously, because

895
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 7: the first half Buffalo completely controlled and they were losing

896
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 7: seven to three. To your point, Fred, like, if you

897
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 7: can't score right, and then you're giving a good offense

898
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 7: for New England, the opportunity maybe that they maybe the

899
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 7: Patriots come out of that first half if Buffalo squanders

900
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 7: you know, Allan threw a pick to stop the first drive.

901
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 7: James Cook fumbled by knocking the ball out of his

902
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 7: own hands with his own knee on another drive that

903
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 7: they were on the move, and that happens. You know,

904
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 7: stuff like that happens, and the scores down. May's going

905
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 7: to put seventeen on the board and now you're down

906
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 7: seventeen three instead of seven three. Can you go out

907
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 7: and run the ball thirty times in the second half again?

908
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 4: But I think this is why they're gonna My guess

909
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 4: is his buffalo is going to come out in that

910
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 4: game and try to run the ball. So if you

911
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 4: stop the run, that's how you you know, that's how

912
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 4: you build a seventeen to three lead at halftime. I

913
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 4: don't know if they're going to get the turnover look

914
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 4: that Pittsburgh has gotten really all year, frankly.

915
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 7: But what I'm saying is if you if you don't

916
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 7: stop the run, worst case scenario, it's.

917
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: Like what happened, possessed the ball for forty two minutes.

918
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 7: But if they don't score touchdowns and the Patriots get

919
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 7: the ball, they're not going to do it.

920
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 5: Aaron I am with Fred on this.

921
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers was so bad and Pittsburgh's offense was so

922
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 7: bad that it allowed Buffalo to eventually get going in

923
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 7: the second half. Now, maybe they get going right out

924
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 7: of the shoot if they run the ball, they don't

925
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 7: turn the ball over the way they did against Pittsburgh, and.

926
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 5: They get a lead of their own. But I take

927
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 5: my chances.

928
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 4: I just look at you know, like the way Houston

929
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 4: played them, which I think is more indicative of like

930
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 4: a straight up game, like Buffalo fumbling and James Cook

931
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 4: fumbling because he hits himself in the knee and then

932
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 4: fumbles the ball does not count as like a great

933
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 4: defensive playerable, right, So you know, Houston really got them

934
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 4: into third and long and they don't have any answers

935
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 4: on third and long, no other than Josh Allen doing

936
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 4: something crazy.

937
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

938
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 4: So like I just I think that, you know, when

939
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 4: you watch their team, their offensive line and James Cook

940
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 4: is the best thing that they got going right now offensively,

941
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 4: I think even better than Allen. Like Allen's not played

942
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 4: particularly great for the last month or so.

943
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, the last five weeks.

944
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 4: So I think that those two things are Their offensive

945
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 4: line is fantastic.

946
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

947
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 8: When Tongo was a big part of that week that

948
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 8: win for the Patriots too, it was really dominant side him.

949
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 6: Remember we get national attention for that.

950
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: That was like his breakout game where we were all like,

951
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: holy crap, Tonga.

952
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I wonder too though to your point out of

953
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 8: you know, containing Alan playing your gaps. If you've got

954
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 8: Josh Farmer playing a little bit, you've got Elijah Ponder

955
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 8: playing a little bit, you know, some of these less

956
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 8: experienced guys who maybe aren't quite as disciplined, and you know,

957
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 8: Corey Durden, like, you know, are they gonna lose the

958
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 8: gap integrity?

959
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 7: And I would just say, you know, like that night,

960
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 7: all those things that you just said happened, and Buffalo

961
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 7: still scored twenty points while turning the ball over three

962
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 7: times and committing eleven penalties. So you might need a

963
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 7: little help again if you're gonna eat, because I do that.

964
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 7: I mean, James Cook didn't have fifty yards. They didn't

965
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 7: let James Cook run all over him that night, Tong guy,

966
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 7: I do remember exactly what you and Alex were talking about.

967
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 5: He had a big game that.

968
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, the gap discipline is huge because Cook is he

969
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 4: wants to cut it back. So like if you over

970
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 4: pursue the ball, He's just going to cut it back.

971
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: And so it's not just against Alan, it's also their

972
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: run games, very zone heavy, and they want to set

973
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 4: up those ut back lanes and if you get out

974
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 4: of your gap, then he's just gonna hit it.

975
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: Anthony's in Seattle, Hey, Anthony, with my people, How you doing.

976
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 5: I feel like we had a little bit of a

977
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 5: mind mail.

978
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 14: Would you guys think it was going a little bit

979
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 14: tripped down memory lane talking about some old hatreds teams.

980
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 7: I it's funny.

981
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 14: I was talking to a guy yesterday and I said, man,

982
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 14: we only got four games left.

983
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 7: I got it blew by.

984
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 14: I'm you know, I tell you what I'm I'm never

985
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 14: going to forget this twenty twenty five Patriots team. And

986
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 14: it made me realize, like, you know, this is the

987
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 14: first team that I you know, got on a plane

988
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 14: and went, you know, flew out and to go see

989
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 14: play at Gilette. The twenty twenty five fan experience, you

990
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 14: know where I'm able to you know, stick it to

991
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 14: some bills fans. I had one guy just throwing the towel.

992
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 14: He doesn't even respond to me anymore. Like this, this

993
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 14: is this has been a I could feel myself looking

994
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 14: back already at this team that they're either going to

995
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 14: win a title, which is going to immortalize them, or

996
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 14: you know, they're not. And I'm still gonna kind of

997
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 14: look back and smile and say, Man, that twenty twenty

998
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 14: five team, that's you know, they were good.

999
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 15: They just were They just were too young.

1000
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 14: And it made me think about, you know, either way,

1001
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 14: this is this is one of my favorite teams. And

1002
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 14: it made me think a little bit about how Evan

1003
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 14: speaks about the twenty fifteen team, and I was curious,

1004
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 14: if you guys have any of like not the obvious ones,

1005
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 14: not the championship ones, and or even like seven which

1006
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 14: didn't win a championship.

1007
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 16: Do you guys have.

1008
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 5: Any that are like this is?

1009
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 14: This is one of my favorite teams that if I

1010
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 14: had to make a list of my top ten, I

1011
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 14: don't know where i'd rank them, but I like this,

1012
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 14: This twenty twenty five Patriots.

1013
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 17: Team would be on my list.

1014
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 14: And I was just curious, what if you guys have

1015
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 14: any teams like that?

1016
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's certainly a likable team, there's no doubt

1017
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 3: about it. Thanks Anthony. You know, yeah, I don't know

1018
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 3: about talent wise, if it's one of the most talented,

1019
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: ever hard to beat some of those dynasty teams and

1020
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: even like late seventies, but it's you know, if if

1021
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: you're talking about the likability factor, this team has to

1022
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 3: be way up there. Yeah, what's not to like?

1023
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 10: I think you have like your seven teams, which is

1024
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 10: like obvious, but I think the premise of like his question,

1025
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 10: it usually tends to be those for me, at least

1026
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 10: those teams that are like not to bring back, like

1027
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 10: the power of friendship, like a fact that's going on

1028
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 10: right now. But I think about some Red Sox teams

1029
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 10: that made like twenty one Red Sox made a good run.

1030
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 10: Some of those like Isaiah Thomas Celtics teams that like

1031
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 10: it was the Bridge years, but you could see yourself

1032
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 10: getting somewhere and you really enjoyed watching even though they

1033
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 10: weren't necessarily contenders.

1034
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, the six team to me, not because I thought

1035
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 8: the power of friendship with that team or anything. It

1036
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 8: was just that was the year where I felt like

1037
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 8: I went full psycho about it.

1038
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 4: That team was not very good news. No they weren't,

1039
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 4: but I'm surprised you picked that up every game.

1040
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 7: And why I think you know, that's what you're talking

1041
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 7: about like they absolutely maximized every they had. It got

1042
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 7: as far as they possibly could happen.

1043
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 8: And I don't even know, to be honest, if that's

1044
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 8: like like I love the team for what they did,

1045
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 8: and I mean the San Diego experience for me in

1046
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 8: the playoff that defined it.

1047
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 6: I didn't think they were necessarily a special team.

1048
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 8: It was just a team that I was like, truly

1049
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 8: ride or die every moment the Dion Branch trade.

1050
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 6: I came to the opener.

1051
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 8: It was the first time I'd been to Gillette Stadium,

1052
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 8: So you know, that's it's not really the answer to

1053
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 8: the question, but that's a random team that not everybody

1054
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 8: loves that.

1055
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 7: I just always remember what was the opponent in the

1056
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 7: opener at Joe's State Buffalo nineteen seventeen.

1057
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was safe. Me and my sister.

1058
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 6: We had way too much fun in the parking lot.

1059
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 6: I've told the story before.

1060
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 8: We're sprinting up the ramps to get to our seats

1061
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 8: because like the flyovers going on, and literally we get

1062
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 8: to our seats, we sit down, it's like safety.

1063
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: Great to start the game.

1064
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, this is incredible. That was a touchdown

1065
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 5: to start.

1066
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 7: It was a touchdown. Sorry, I believe it was a

1067
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 7: too Spikes strip sack fumble return for a touchdown. But

1068
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 7: Ty Warren safety, yes, that the fourth quarter won the game.

1069
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 6: You you nailed it, Paul Alex.

1070
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 4: This team Tatum's rookie year, where like they took Lebron

1071
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 4: and the Cavs a game seven, he dumps on them.

1072
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 4: They lose, but like you were like, holy crap, like

1073
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: they just arrived. Like this team is got a superstar,

1074
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 4: and obviously Drake would be Jason Tatum in this case.

1075
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 10: And I think that's why a big part of it

1076
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 10: comes from like hope and the future, like looking like,

1077
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 10: oh what could this be? Like it's like the playing

1078
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 10: with house money effect kind of.

1079
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1080
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: All right, I was gonna say something. I forgot what

1081
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: it was. Uh honest, honest, that's his name. It's from

1082
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 3: North Carolina. What's up?

1083
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 17: How you doing?

1084
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 7: All right?

1085
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 17: Good?

1086
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 6: What's up?

1087
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 14: All right?

1088
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 17: Look, I'm trying my hardest not to be delusional, but

1089
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 17: we got an MVP, we got a Coach of the Year.

1090
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 17: Everything is looking great. I think we about to go

1091
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 17: get us a super Bowl.

1092
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 3: Man, There's nothing delusional. Yeah, why not?

1093
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 17: When I watched the Patriots play at home. It's like

1094
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 17: I get flashbacks to Tom Brady and Bronk and Edelman

1095
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 17: and all the good days. It's like it just the

1096
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 17: energy feels like that and you're.

1097
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 3: Letting know, Yeah, okay, so winning team, go with it. Honest.

1098
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 17: No team, no team really like strikes fear in me,

1099
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 17: like I feel I'm gonna went to the Baltimore game

1100
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 17: week sixteen, and before the before the season started, I

1101
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 17: was kind of scared of that game. Now I'm like,

1102
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 17: we're gonna walk the dogs with me.

1103
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: Yep, let's go. Let's go.

1104
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: I love that I wrote no delusion will get you

1105
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: very fat.

1106
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 5: But I don't think it's de loosing.

1107
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: Honest.

1108
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 5: You're eleven and two right, and you got the enjoy it.

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Speaker 8: I mean, this is you've got to the point where

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Speaker 8: you don't have to worry about football this weekend. You

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00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 8: can sit back. You're you know, your first team to

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Speaker 8: eleven wins. I mean you should feel great. You don't

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Speaker 8: know how the rest of it's going to go, and

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Speaker 8: that's really what's gonna matter. But that's to me, I'm like,

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Speaker 8: just win the division. But this weekend should be like

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Speaker 8: you should be feeling like that because you don't know

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Speaker 8: how it's.

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Speaker 4: Gonna there's a little house money going on right now. Absolutely,

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Speaker 4: And I obviously it would be bummed if they lost

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Speaker 4: in the playoffs or you know, didn't win a playoff

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Speaker 4: game or anything. But you know this wasn't supposed to

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Speaker 4: happen this year, right. I loved take it.

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Speaker 7: Like I loved your Bridges comparison. It's like no one

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Speaker 7: expected those teams to do it. They didn't even when

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Speaker 7: Tatum got there. And your comparison of Tatum to to

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Speaker 7: Drake is is really good. Like that team wasn't good

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Speaker 7: enough drafted there, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Good point, Yeah, but.

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Speaker 7: They were there at the end of the at the

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Speaker 7: end of the day, and you could see better things were.

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Speaker 2: Coming out of North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: Yeah wrong, North Carolina School. We're gonna go.

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Speaker 3: And Chad's hanging in Dallas a second.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty cool, know the state of North Carolina.

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Speaker 16: Cha Hey, I got I'm beat down here. I'm making

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Speaker 16: it quick and easy for y'all. I think we should

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Speaker 16: take this in the off season because the wide receiver

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Speaker 16: peak is way higher than corner peak, and I feel

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Speaker 16: like an offense is more needing than the defense, right,

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Speaker 16: now with our defensive line being pretty decent and stopping

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Speaker 16: and run and everything. And the last thing I got is,

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Speaker 16: I'm really worried about the Patriots wanting out, wanting done

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Speaker 16: in the playoffs, because I really don't think they played

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Speaker 16: anybody good. And the Bills we hold. The Bills went

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Speaker 16: to high standards and everything, but we hold the The

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Speaker 16: Steelers lost to like mediocre or whatever. We shouldn't lost

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Speaker 16: that game. But the same concept happened on both sides

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Speaker 16: of the ball. I mean both teams, as in, we

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Speaker 16: we turned the ball over too much in Steelers, and

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Speaker 16: then I feel like the Bills turned the ball over

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Speaker 16: too much. And if I can get everything with equals,

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Speaker 16: that game will be a lot more tighter.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you have a real down or you want

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Speaker 3: to trade. Do you think we're gonna be one and done?

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I don't really understand that. I don't unders

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Speaker 4: saying the wide receiver point with with God, what do

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Speaker 4: you mean by the wide receiver?

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Speaker 3: Use the assets that you get from the trade to

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Speaker 3: get a wide receiver?

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Speaker 16: Okay, what I mean by that is I don't think

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Speaker 16: no matter how good Christianalez is chasing justin by a

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Speaker 16: higher peak can never shut those people down no matter

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Speaker 16: what at the end of the day. So I think

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Speaker 16: it's more useful to have a better wide receiver than

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Speaker 16: a really good corner.

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Speaker 7: Okay, philosophically, I mean that's that's a point of view.

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Speaker 8: Mar Yeah, would you do marginal Booty and Gonzales justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 7: With Minnesota?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Maybe I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 4: on Jamar Chase, Like you know, I guess.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think a lot of Gonzales, but I

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Speaker 7: being more important than the corner.

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Speaker 5: But Gonzo's really good. I wouldn't be wanting to trade him.

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Speaker 20: And welcome to another edition of Pats from the Past podcast.

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Speaker 20: It's Matt Smith alongside with poulp Rollow and we are

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Speaker 20: really pleased to be joined by number eighty in your scorecard,

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Speaker 20: but number one in our hearts, at least for today,

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Speaker 20: the great and I'm not we we over use the

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Speaker 20: word great a lot of times.

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Speaker 4: We're not us.

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Speaker 3: We're using it today is irving Friar.

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Speaker 21: Irving, thank you so much for joining us. Really appreciate it, Matt.

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Speaker 21: It's it's my pleasure. I don't get a chance to

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Speaker 21: come back this way too often. But I'm here to

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Speaker 21: watch the game today. I'm here to cheer the Patriots on.

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Speaker 21: I'm also get a chance to see my son and

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Speaker 21: my grandchildren because they're up here in Boston.

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 7: Is that the impetus for coming back here?

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Speaker 1: Because it's you're I mean, I just came back just

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Speaker 1: to be honest, you know, right right, I mean, it's like, what.

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Speaker 7: Was what was your impetus?

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Speaker 20: Because it's great when some of the people like, there's

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Speaker 20: a lot of people ierving in this area and understandably so,

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Speaker 20: think the franchise started in two thousand and one, and

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Speaker 20: that's not the case, you know, so when somebody like

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Speaker 20: you comes back here, you're literally franchise royalty.

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Speaker 1: What was the impetus to come back here?

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Speaker 21: Well, the impetus to come back was an email that

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Speaker 21: I received from the Patriots organization inviting some of the

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Speaker 21: alumni boss they put together an opportunity of program or

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Speaker 21: an event. I guess you could call either one of

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Speaker 21: those for us to come back and have a space

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Speaker 21: for us where we can bring a couple of guests.

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Speaker 1: And I'm real still good friends with Tony Collins.

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Speaker 21: We stay in contact with one another, and he came

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Speaker 21: several weeks ago, and I think he brought like nineteen

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Speaker 21: cats with him and they all had Tony Collins jerseys

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Speaker 21: on and I saw that he posted it.

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Speaker 1: I saw it. I called him and he told me

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 21: So I responded to the email, got in touch with Jeff,

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Speaker 21: talked with Kate, and here I am.

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Speaker 6: That's great, that's great.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So first of all, what are you up to now?

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Speaker 7: Before we get into memory lane? You know what I yeah,

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Speaker 7: I mean, you look like you could still play. Matt

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Speaker 7: and I were joking with you with.

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Speaker 1: Ten start for sure.

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Speaker 7: It looks like you could get out and jump in

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Speaker 7: the X spot right now and run ten go routes.

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Speaker 7: No problem.

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Speaker 1: Well, I still do workout, and I work hard, so

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Speaker 1: I'm working harder. I listen.

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Speaker 21: I had some surgery a little while ago. I had

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Speaker 21: a stone in my bladder, and yeah, that was a

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Speaker 21: bad experience. So I'm doing the best that I can

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Speaker 21: to stay as healthy as I can, and part of

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Speaker 21: that is working out. But what I'm doing now, I've

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Speaker 21: been doing the past what twenty five years now, almost,

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Speaker 21: and that's I'm still pastoring.

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Speaker 6: That's great.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually pastoring at two different churches now, but I'm

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Speaker 1: still doing that.

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Speaker 21: You can't. I can't get away from it. I can't

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Speaker 21: run from it. I tried several times, trust me, and

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Speaker 21: it is what it is. It's a it's a calling

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Speaker 21: that you become a prisoner too, as the Apostle Paul

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Speaker 21: says in scripture.

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Speaker 1: And you can't get away from it. So I'm enjoying it.

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Speaker 21: I love loving people, and we need love more than

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Speaker 21: anything in today's world.

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Speaker 1: Yep, you know it better than I do.

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Speaker 21: So I do podcasts, I do some analysis with the

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Speaker 21: Eagles down in Philadelphia, but most of my work, most

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Speaker 21: of my attention, most of my focus is with the church.

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Speaker 1: And when he sold, that's great.

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Speaker 20: So let's go down memory lane, Irving, and I don't

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Speaker 20: think a lot of younger people would remember.

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Speaker 1: And you're you're in a fraternity or that's pretty select.

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Speaker 20: There aren't many wide receivers that were selected number one

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Speaker 20: overall in the draft. I know Kishan's one of them

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Speaker 20: because I can remember that that was after me, right,

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Speaker 20: And there's another gentleman whose name I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: I think from the sixties.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, you're the number one pick in the NFL What

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00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 20: was that like for a kid coming out of Nebraska

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Speaker 20: from South Jersey.

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Speaker 6: What was that like at the time to be the

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Speaker 6: number one pick overall?

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Speaker 21: Well, it wasn't the pomping circumstance that you have now

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Speaker 21: with all of the celebration and you know the you

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Speaker 21: know they have they sell tickets to the draft now

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Speaker 21: and it's thousands of people that show up in whatever

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Speaker 21: city they're having the draft.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like that when I was drafted.

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Speaker 21: I actually signed my contract before the draft, and probably

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Speaker 21: by the time.

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Speaker 1: The draft came, I had spent like twenty five grand.

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Speaker 21: But the day of the draft, they sent a car

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Speaker 21: down to New Jersey, picked myself and my mother up.

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Speaker 21: We went to the draft, they announced it, we did

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Speaker 21: an interview, we got back in the car and went

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Speaker 21: back home.

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Speaker 1: That was as exciting as it was believing.

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Speaker 21: But there's something interesting that I kind of just realized

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Speaker 21: maybe several months ago I was doing an interview and

1323
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Speaker 21: begin to talk about it and thinking about being drafted

1324
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 21: as the number one pick.

1325
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: But I was drafted as a wide receiver.

1326
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 21: I was a wing back in college, right, So as

1327
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 21: a wing back in college, my one on ones in

1328
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 21: practice were in a three point stance, blocking down on

1329
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 21: defensive ends or blocking linebackers my one on ones in practice.

1330
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 21: Never at Nebraska were me standing up or even out

1331
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 21: split out running routes against the as a back. So

1332
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 21: the first time I had ever run a route against

1333
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 21: the defensive back standing up was my first day in

1334
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 21: training camp. I had never done that before, and man,

1335
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 21: I got my behind quite a few times because Raymond

1336
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 21: Claybourne and riding the pit. Those guys did not play.

1337
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 21: They were great cornerbacks and I had to face them

1338
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 21: every day. So it was a learning curve for me

1339
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 21: that was pretty pretty long. It took me a minute

1340
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 21: to get my feet up underneath me to learn how

1341
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 21: to be a wide receiver, and we didn't throw the

1342
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 21: ball that much, and I really didn't become, I feel,

1343
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 21: a good receiver until I went to Miami where they

1344
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 21: focused on through it.

1345
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 7: So what was your experience, Like you mentioned the guys

1346
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 7: on the defensive side, but you had a pretty good

1347
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 7: wide receiver on the other side.

1348
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: And stands in the morning.

1349
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, So what was it like sort of trying to

1350
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 5: pick his brain.

1351
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: A little bit.

1352
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 21: Well, here's the story behind Stanley. So yes, I come in,

1353
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 21: I'm a wing back. I don't have a clue as

1354
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 21: to what I'm doing at the wide receiver position. So

1355
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 21: I know Stanley's here. I've heard of Stanley. I've actually

1356
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 21: watched him several times in games, and so I'm figuring

1357
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 21: I'm going to get some tootelitch from him and he's

1358
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 21: going to help me out.

1359
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: Well.

1360
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 21: When I got drafted, Ron Myers was the head coach YEP.

1361
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 21: Ron Myers was falling out with Stanley Morgan. They both

1362
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 21: were having a falling out. I think Ron was trying

1363
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 21: to get rid of Stanley. So when I came in,

1364
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 21: Ron put me at the same position as Stanley, so

1365
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 21: I was a threat to Stanley. He and Ron were

1366
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 21: going at it. I'm on the same side, so Stanley

1367
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 21: didn't talk to me. He didn't say a word to me.

1368
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 21: Halfway through my rookie year, Ron Myers gets fired, Raymond

1369
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 21: Barry comes in.

1370
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: Raymond Barry takes me and he puts me on the

1371
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: other side of Stanley.

1372
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 21: So now Stanley and I are playing at the same time,

1373
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 21: rather than me playing and Stanley on the side, or

1374
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 21: Stanley playing to.

1375
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: Me on the sideline. But Stanley the damage had already

1376
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: been done, so Stanley still wasn't.

1377
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 3: Talking to me.

1378
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 21: So my whole rookie year, and I don't blame him,

1379
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 21: but my whole rookie year, Stanley didn't say a word

1380
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 21: to me, not one single word, because I was a

1381
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 21: threat to him.

1382
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 7: Matt, we're not even ten minutes in and you're you're

1383
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 7: sort of finding out why the Patriots struggled so much

1384
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 7: and now great moments in.

1385
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 3: History. So I do the thing where you see somebody

1386
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 3: in their car they're about to leave, so you pull over,

1387
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 3: put your single line and just sit there. So this

1388
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 3: guy in a big tesla comes up right in front

1389
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 3: of me, starts giving me the hands like what what

1390
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 3: I'm like? You know, most go around, go around. You know,

1391
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 3: He's like, you wouldn't do it, It wouldn't go around. Finally,

1392
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 3: you know, he decides, oh, I'll go around. So he

1393
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 3: goes around. But then he decides to do a pull

1394
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 3: up roll down. He pulls up next to me. Now

1395
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 3: he pulls the pull up, pull up roll down and

1396
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 3: pulls down the window. So he starts talking to me,

1397
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 3: and I just say, keep effing driving, just like that.

1398
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 3: You had the kids in the back seat. I don't care,

1399
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 3: but I just say keep f and he goes, we'll

1400
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 3: talk later.

1401
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 6: I know we won't, you know, but ended it. That

1402
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 6: was it.

1403
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 7: That's another great moment from.

1404
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's up to the Burlington Mall. You're ready, You're ready,

1405
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 3: the Forest Cafe while I was in the parking lot.

1406
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 3: Small cool. All right back here eight five to five

1407
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 3: Pats five hundred is the hot line. But before we

1408
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 3: get to that deuce, that's right, Pilot stuff, It's time.

1409
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 8: For the co pilot stuff, also known as the Question

1410
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 8: of the Week, presented by Microsoft Copilot, where every day

1411
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 8: is game day and where every decision is powered by

1412
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 8: insight innovation. Microsoft technology helps to make decisions faster, insight sharper,

1413
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 8: and strategy is more adaptive. All right, guys, you know

1414
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 8: the Patriots are on a ten game win streak right now,

1415
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 8: and the question this week is to stack up in

1416
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 8: team history other extended Patriot win streaks.

1417
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 4: Okay, well, here's the question before I answer. Are we

1418
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 4: talking about wind streaks over both spans of seasons or

1419
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 4: within a season.

1420
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 8: Let's begin with over seasons, because that's they're not quite

1421
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 8: there yet, but over the twenty one twenty one is

1422
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 8: the top. That's right, that's right, that's the one from

1423
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 8: December two thousand and six all the way through uh nine,

1424
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 8: two thousand and eight that was included the two thousand

1425
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 8: and seven sixteen O season also had an eighteen game

1426
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 8: regular season win streak from three to four into that season,

1427
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 8: and then there were uh five times they've gone on

1428
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 8: ten game win streaks when you connect the two seasons.

1429
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 6: But just for single season.

1430
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 4: They had to be super Bowl seasons right from six

1431
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 4: to seven, O six to eight. So they want to

1432
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 4: they have regular not talking playoffs, not concerned yourself, big game.

1433
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 3: Regular because he's just talking regular season.

1434
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 4: I mean they lost in the six playoffs and the

1435
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 4: seven right now, we're just we're just talking regular seasons.

1436
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 8: So when you extend over two seasons, regular season, but

1437
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 8: that's not no, but just for a single season, no.

1438
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 6: No, no, this is tied for third, tied for third.

1439
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 1: Fringer wagon.

1440
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't. I don't even want to talk about

1441
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 3: regular season that that goes into the other season. It's

1442
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 3: a I love this whole thing.

1443
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 4: And then you got to win the Super Bowl, right right,

1444
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 4: you lost the game?

1445
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 3: All right?

1446
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 6: What about just within a single season?

1447
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 8: How about that within a single regular season of course

1448
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 8: two thousand and seven, sixteen, sixteen, and oh twelve in

1449
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,479
Speaker 8: a row in two thousand and three. Yes, and there's

1450
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 8: one other time they've won ten in a row. Boom

1451
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 8: y are nailed it. Yeah, so tied for third longest

1452
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 8: regular season win streak. Here is you're watching online, you

1453
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 8: can see.

1454
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 6: Cop pilots spit it out at you. But impressive, I

1455
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 6: mean carving out their little spot in the.

1456
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 4: Twenty fifteen team was so good if they they just

1457
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 4: got hurt at the end of the year.

1458
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, they lost on Lewis Bill lost his mind too.

1459
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 7: That that was part of it.

1460
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 6: Oh, the Harber's muff game.

1461
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 3: So the funny thing about the co Pilot don't make

1462
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 3: me do the greatest hits is that every time we

1463
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 3: do this on Thursday, du says, don't forget when we

1464
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 3: come out of the break, I'm gonna be doing the

1465
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 3: co pilot and like, yeah, dude, you just take it,

1466
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 3: and without fail, every time we come out of the break,

1467
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,959
Speaker 3: I forget, you know, I like giving you your space,

1468
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 3: I like do this this time. He's like Saul while

1469
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 3: I was doing it too.

1470
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 6: Because he was looking at you.

1471
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 8: Now it's everyone's favor segment I say, I was really

1472
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 8: bummed out everything that Paul wasn't here last week, because

1473
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 8: it was really one directed towards the nineteen ninety six season,

1474
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 8: which was when the Patriots played the Giants on a

1475
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 8: Saturday and it was a big game, and I was

1476
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 8: like quizzing.

1477
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 6: Paul's like, I was upset you weren't there. Paul I

1478
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 6: kind of came up.

1479
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 7: With this twenties.

1480
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 8: He's ripping them off, and then I'm like, there's one

1481
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 8: more and then he's like and I'm like eh, and

1482
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 8: then all of a sudden, You're like, oh, I was there.

1483
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 3: I was uh Spiin Fresner writes, said, Fred does indeed

1484
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 3: bring a sharp editorial eye when selecting much emails to read.

1485
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 3: He's filtered out most of my awful ones over the years,

1486
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 3: thankfully concealing the true depths of my idiocy. Combined that

1487
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 3: with Fred's refined taste for forty percent fat burger meat,

1488
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 3: and we can easily grasp how the Kingmaker has a

1489
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 3: sentence was thrown anyway into the thrown anyway, Yeah you

1490
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Yeah, anyway to weigh in on

1491
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 3: the saft scheduling thing, I get that evanence tired of

1492
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 3: the way some people have brought it up. But I

1493
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 3: think I agree with Paul that we'll have to wait

1494
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,439
Speaker 3: and see if the cupcakeness of it all actually tells

1495
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 3: us something meaningful. For example, if the Patriots flame out

1496
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 3: in the postseason and struggle next year against different competition,

1497
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 3: how couldn't one refer back to the soft schedule as

1498
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 3: a central reason for the twenty twenty five looks. Whether

1499
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 3: Sincy Homer Evan likes it or not, there are multiple

1500
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 3: ways it could end up a meaningful part of the story. Well,

1501
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 3: what happens if next year the Patriots don't do as well,

1502
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 3: but Kansas City's back, and Buffalo although the windows closed,

1503
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 3: but the Ravens are back.

1504
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:40,919
Speaker 7: That was well done right there, That was good.

1505
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 4: I mean those could be factors too, But like you

1506
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 4: also have to see how it looks this year in

1507
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 4: the playoffs, like if they play I'm just gonna use

1508
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 4: the Bills. If they play Josh Allen and the Bills

1509
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 4: and they lose forty five forty and like a classic

1510
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 4: like are you gonna sit there and say, well, frauds?

1511
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 5: Nope, you're right, you know, So.

1512
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 4: Like I think that it all of if it matters

1513
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 4: in terms of the context of it.

1514
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 7: And I say, Mike, and I say this all the time,

1515
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 7: that was on March for the whole offseason, Like I

1516
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 7: need to see it. I need to see how it

1517
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 7: looks and the thing that you just the scenario you

1518
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 7: just uh painted. Absolutely, I would not say, well, they

1519
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 7: proved they didn't belong, Like you can be one and

1520
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 7: out and still not prove that you didn't belong. Or conversely,

1521
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 7: I'm not going to say you could win it all

1522
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 7: and still be a fraud, because you win it all,

1523
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 7: you win it all, but you can you know, sort

1524
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 7: of slip by Jacksonville or something like that and maybe

1525
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 7: losing the AFC Championship game, Yeah, and maybe not have

1526
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 7: proved anything either, Like you need to see how it

1527
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 7: all unfolds.

1528
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 8: How do you feel if you look at it through

1529
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 8: the lens of last year's team, Because those last year

1530
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 8: two Patriots teams were one of those easy schedule teams.

1531
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 3: Right, and they really were Like I think.

1532
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 8: About those teams and I'm like, man, this opponent is

1533
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 8: really gonna have to screw it up to lose to

1534
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 8: this team, Like you're gonna have to turn it over

1535
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 8: a few times so, you know, I do think from

1536
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 8: that perspective, like as a fan and someone who's covering

1537
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 8: a team like that, that you know there is some

1538
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 8: element of truth of there are certain teams, and I

1539
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 8: don't think it's all of them, but there are a

1540
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 8: handful of teams at the bottom that you know that

1541
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 8: it's going to take a miracle for them to win

1542
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 8: a football game.

1543
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 4: I hear what everybody's saying, I just to win ten

1544
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 4: in a row.

1545
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1546
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one thing that if they if they were

1547
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 4: I don't know, eight and four, right, or you know,

1548
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 4: seven and five, and they're having this nice season, but

1549
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 4: all their wins were against the crap teams, and five

1550
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 4: they lost to some craft teams to straight games in

1551
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 4: the NFL, Like you don't just do that by acts.

1552
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 7: They took all the crap games and they won them

1553
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 7: all but one. Really, yeah, you know they lost their Raiders. Yeah,

1554
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 7: you know, so I agree with Evan. I think that

1555
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 7: they've shown you that they're a good team. Yeah, I

1556
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 7: mean how good I don't know because of that factor,

1557
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 7: but they've shown me they're a good team.

1558
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 8: I mean, especially when I just I chuckle when I

1559
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 8: think of the first thing Mike Rabel said about can

1560
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:55,879
Speaker 8: we take advantage of bad football?

1561
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 6: Like that was the initial bar he set on day one,

1562
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 6: and I'm like, yeah, you've definitely done that.

1563
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 3: The other part, if you're not good, you can't do that.

1564
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 7: And the other part of it that tells me they're

1565
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 7: good is it's not like even in one it was

1566
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 7: one week after another, that's something crazy was happening.

1567
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 5: Haven't been any of those.

1568
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 7: They haven't. They generally get the lead in the game

1569
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 7: and in the second half they're never behind, which means

1570
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 7: you're good. You're playing against bad teams and you're making

1571
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 7: them chase you, and they're not good enough to beat

1572
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 7: you because you're good and you're you're dictating the way

1573
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 7: the game is played. You're not relying on David Patton

1574
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 7: getting knocked unconscious while out of bounce and having the

1575
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 7: ball touch his foot like that. Those are the kinds

1576
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 7: of things that okay, And I'm not saying that the

1577
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 7: one team stuck. Don't don't misunderstand it, but like it

1578
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 7: was some events, there was some flukiness to that eleven

1579
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 7: and five run, and it showed the next year when

1580
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 7: they didn't make the playoffs. Yeah, but this this, I

1581
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 7: don't think there's a lot of flukey wins in here.

1582
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 7: There are games that could have been lost that they

1583
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 7: won by I don't like. Maybe you want to say,

1584
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,799
Speaker 7: if the Miami guy, if Achan doesn't step out of bounds,

1585
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 7: maybe that game ends differently. But do you have any

1586
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 7: more examples of that.

1587
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 4: And there was still like, what five six minutes left

1588
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 4: in the game.

1589
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 3: It was it was a minute left, was there?

1590
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, Which now you can make the argument that May

1591
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 7: would have gone down and scored, they could have won.

1592
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 7: And based on what I've seen for the last thirteen weeks,

1593
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 7: I'm I'm not gonna argue with you because May it's

1594
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 7: been good.

1595
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 3: That was that kind of was a fluky game that

1596
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 3: was there.

1597
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 7: You could say it was a little flukiness to that game,

1598
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 7: But I don't think there was any real flukiness to

1599
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 7: you know, these other wins.

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01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Gibson returning a kickoff for a touchdown

1601
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 4: that was like for the longest time, that was the

1602
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 4: only kickoff return touchdown in the league for like the

1603
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 4: first like ten weeks of the season, and that was

1604
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 4: ended up being the game winner in that game.

1605
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 5: But and in fairness, it followed a party turn touchdown

1606
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 5: from Miami.

1607
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I just you don't win ten games in

1608
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 4: a row in this league by accident.

1609
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 10: It's like you can talk about luck all you want,

1610
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 10: but it's like old saying you have to be prepared

1611
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 10: to take advantage of the luck.

1612
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 2: That's in a sense what they're doing.

1613
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 10: Like they've gotten a lot of breaks and they've still

1614
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 10: taken advantage of every single one.

1615
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 8: And Drake May's playing like an MVP candidate, you know,

1616
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 8: Like that's the one thing that like, you know, if

1617
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 8: you had a quarterback who I am consistent too, like

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01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 8: I think Denver is.

1619
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 7: You know, there are a win over the Raiders away

1620
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 7: from winning ten in a row. And I don't think

1621
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 7: they're that great either. I think they're good, just like

1622
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 7: I think the Patriots are good, but I don't think they're.

1623
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 3: A great team.

1624
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 6: I need to dive into them a little more. I

1625
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 6: know they've been all like comebacks too, right, Like they

1626
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 6: have nine they've had more.

1627
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 4: I think they've trailed in like twelve games.

1628
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 7: Yea, they've had more one score games in the Patriots. Well,

1629
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 7: in the win streak, they've had more one score games

1630
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 7: than the Patriots, and even the one scores like the

1631
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 7: Patriots one score games are like you win by five

1632
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 7: or six and the Broncos have won by like one,

1633
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 7: like literally.

1634
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 3: Like crazy comeback one Jacob and Milwaukee apologies in advance

1635
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 3: for the grammar. This is about the Denver thing. Some

1636
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 3: interesting info about altitude longtime listeners since twenty fourteen first

1637
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 3: time in miles. When you guys discuss altitude and adjusting

1638
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 3: to Denver's altitude, it takes approximately two weeks for the

1639
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 3: body to adjust. The downside is, technically speaking, you can

1640
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 3: never train to reach your maximum intensity for performance like

1641
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 3: you could at sea level due to the lack of oxygen.

1642
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 3: That being said, the theory is live high to gain

1643
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 3: the adaptations of living at a higher altitude, and train

1644
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,919
Speaker 3: at sea level so you can reach your maximum training potential.

1645
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 3: Completely impractical, but felt worth sharing. Listening to yesterday's episode

1646
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 3: probably won't make the light of day, but appreciate the

1647
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 3: show well. It did make the light at it.

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01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 6: You want to get high, you start on. You start

1649
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 6: on the top of the mountain, You go down to

1650
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 6: the mountain, bottom of the mountain.

1651
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 3: You train. You can never reach your maximum potential because

1652
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 3: there's not enough.

1653
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 6: Never thought of it that way. That was interesting.

1654
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 4: So interesting live high? Is it interesting or important? People

1655
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 4: that live in interesting?

1656
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 7: Interesting?

1657
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 6: That's why you live in the Western mass right the

1658
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 6: mountains Trent.

1659
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 7: Trent.

1660
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 3: And your time at ESPN was the best two years

1661
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 3: of your life. Why didn't you go back?

1662
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 4: Incorrect? Wow, didn't work at ESPN. So if you're gonna

1663
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 4: come at me, at least get your facts straight correct.

1664
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 4: NFL Network, thank you very much.

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Speaker 6: Culver City. Do you ever go to the conservatory in

1666
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 6: Culver City for coffee?

1667
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 4: Probably it doesn't sound too for it's pretty good.

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01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 7: You were in the coffee place in California, Andy Cavative.

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01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what that is.

1670
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 4: There is this pizza place though, you know l A

1671
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 4: very famous for not having great pizza. But this one

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01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 4: guy from in Culver City, he had moved from Brooklyn

1673
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 4: to l A. And he brought his pizza recipe with

1674
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 4: him from New.

1675
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,839
Speaker 3: York videos and what was it called Brooklyn Pizza?

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01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 4: No, no, no, it was like a namely pizza. But

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01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 4: it was very good.

1678
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 6: Inside little Culver City in the sports filling station.

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01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, inside there that was a great place.

1680
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 4: There's also a great Greek place right down the street.

1681
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 4: From the NFL Network studios that we'd used to go

1682
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 4: to and get euros.

1683
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 3: Uh. That was called the Greek place, Yes it was.

1684
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 4: It was actually called like Micronos or something like that.

1685
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 6: I know, exact, very good, that good walking there all

1686
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 6: the time.

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01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 4: All right, Chipotle if we want.

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01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 3: To, all right back five hundred. Uh, Chad is in

1689
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 3: la what's up, Chad.

1690
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 6: Big Chad day?

1691
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 3: Did you know?

1692
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 7: Chad?

1693
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 6: No, not this one, big chat?

1694
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 22: Yeah, there are no good pizzas in l A.

1695
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 13: Unfortunately.

1696
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 4: Loroccos. Go to Loroccos and Culver City.

1697
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 7: That's a Brooklyn pizza place. Locos sounds skeptical.

1698
01:15:56,160 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 4: Every time four and a half stars on Google a picture.

1699
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 22: I wanted to ask about the play calling, in particular

1700
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 22: in Cash twenty two. Evan, you mentioned that there you

1701
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 22: think that they're kind of holding out on Drake running

1702
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,679
Speaker 22: the ball a little bit. Is that accurate?

1703
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 4: Yes, that's what I think. Don't know, that's what I say.

1704
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 17: Okay.

1705
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 22: So they have obviously access to Brady's entire playbook from

1706
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 22: his career.

1707
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:31,799
Speaker 3: Okay.

1708
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 22: So obviously that wouldn't necessarily be the kind of play

1709
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 22: that they would call for Brady. So they're they're developing

1710
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 22: obviously plays that are specific to Drake. But my question

1711
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 22: would be is what kind of plays have you seen

1712
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 22: Brady perform that Drake hasn't necessarily performed yet.

1713
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 3: It's nuts you think it's in his wheelhouse. Okay, that's

1714
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 3: it's an eviand question, but I haven't answered.

1715
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 4: You can answer it. If Brady Brady plays that Drake

1716
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 4: hasn't necessarily done yet, I wouldn't say very many. I mean, honestly,

1717
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 4: they it's pretty similar to what they're running with Drake now.

1718
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 4: I mean they ran they hit Stefan Diggs on the

1719
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,759
Speaker 4: juke route and host Duke last week for like thirteen

1720
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 4: yards and it's pretty cool actually to like see Drake

1721
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 4: kind of pressing the same buttons and pulling the same

1722
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 4: levers and it looks similar.

1723
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 3: There's nothing out of a physical standpoint that Brady did

1724
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:40,759
Speaker 3: that Drake hasn't done. What Drake hasn't done that Brady

1725
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 3: did all the time. It's the situations, and we just

1726
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 3: haven't had seen the situations yet, so we don't know

1727
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 3: from But there's no throw that Brady made that Drake

1728
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 3: can't make, and Drake has more mobility, you know, It's

1729
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 3: it's amazing like, so you want to stop there because

1730
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 3: Brady is the greatest ever? But will he always be?

1731
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 3: Is there a chance that someone someday? Of course right now,

1732
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 3: but the odds of that it being so soon and

1733
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 3: we have the guy, it's like it would truly be

1734
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 3: lightning striking twice. But is it out of the roma possibility? No,

1735
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 3: it's not right, but he has to get to those situations.

1736
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 22: Yeah, I think there's a good chance of it happening

1737
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 22: to get in here because we have the history, we

1738
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 22: have the record, we have all the data, but also

1739
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 22: really quick that so I'm leading to one particular question,

1740
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 22: why aren't we doing the hurry up offense more?

1741
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 3: We don't need to?

1742
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, yeah, they so they do it a little bit,

1743
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 4: but most of it is more what you call like

1744
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 4: muddle huddles where like you kind of like you huddle,

1745
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 4: but it's not like a super fast it's a super

1746
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 4: fast huddle. It's not an extended huddle where he's you know,

1747
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 4: it's they're saying all the verbs.

1748
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 3: Hurry up is different than like what you're talking about,

1749
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 3: Like there's one that you're racing against the clock, Like no,

1750
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 3: there's another one where no huddle where you're just trying

1751
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 3: to eliminate the other team from being able to substitute

1752
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 3: and all that. This difference.

1753
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 5: I kind of agree with you.

1754
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 7: I don't think that they've needed it because they've been

1755
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 7: in control of almost every game in the second half. Yeah,

1756
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 7: you know, they used it a great two minute drill

1757
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 7: at the end of the first half this past game

1758
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 7: Monday night, they went right down the field. I mean,

1759
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 7: they got a big chunk play like forty yards to

1760
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 7: reminder Stevenson, but that's you know, yeah, I would huddle,

1761
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 7: hurry up.

1762
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 4: I'm really fascinated about that sequence you're talking about because

1763
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 4: it kind of looked like Drake was calling the plays,

1764
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 4: and because they were going right to the line of

1765
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 4: scrimmage and he checked in and out of a couple

1766
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 4: of different things. And they have this thing called the

1767
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 4: NASCAR package where it's one word association to play calls.

1768
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 4: So all he has to do is get to the

1769
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage and yell a name. Usually they're named

1770
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 4: after like famous basketball players or cities or like something

1771
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 4: like that. So I'll just go Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, and

1772
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 4: then everybody knows what play they're running, just based off

1773
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 4: that one word, and so I that was that's how

1774
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 4: their no huddle packages always worked under McDaniels. But a

1775
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 4: lot of that is what he's seeing at the line

1776
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 4: of scrimmage and he's kind of running the show. And

1777
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 4: I think that's been the most impressive part to me

1778
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 4: about Drake is that he's already doing that in his

1779
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 4: second season in the NFL. Like you're seeing him solve

1780
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 4: problems with pressure and you know, check in and out

1781
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 4: of plays and sometimes they have two plays called in

1782
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 4: the huddle where you know it's either pass pass or

1783
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 4: run pass or whatever. And he's checking in and out

1784
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 4: of things based off of what you know he's seeing

1785
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 4: from the defense. And to do that already at twenty

1786
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 4: three years old and do it at a really high

1787
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 4: level is not normal. Yeah, So that's been really impressive.

1788
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 8: I like to what Fred said, It just it feels

1789
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,879
Speaker 8: like the intangibles are the things that you know, separated

1790
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 8: Brady and he just you know, and that's something I

1791
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 8: don't think Drake has, like you said, had an opportunity

1792
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 8: to and it's you know, I kept talking to Drake Killer,

1793
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 8: you know, these are the things you're probably gonna find

1794
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 8: out here in the playoffs of you know, team goes

1795
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 8: down and scores and takes the lead with one forty

1796
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,759
Speaker 8: three left in the game, and Drake's gonna get a possession, Kenny,

1797
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 8: you know, is it time to shine like it was Brady?

1798
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 8: And that's I mean, how many times did Brady do

1799
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 8: that to win championships? And that's you know, I think

1800
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 8: that's if there's ever gonna be another great one like that.

1801
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 8: I mean, there's no comparison physically, but when you but

1802
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 8: when you talk about intangibles, there's no comparison either with with.

1803
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 4: What and maniacally competitive twelve months out of the year. Yeah,

1804
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 4: you know, and I'm not saying he doesn't, But like,

1805
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 4: is Drake in a in the off season? Is he

1806
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 4: going to be in Montana, like working out two days

1807
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 4: a week?

1808
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, right, He's gonna wake up the day after he

1809
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 8: wins the Super Bowl and like time to start training

1810
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:44,959
Speaker 8: again because.

1811
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 2: And lifestyle stuff.

1812
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that's anything.

1813
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, But in terms of physical outside of the numbers

1814
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 3: down the scene, yeah right, there's nothing you could say short.

1815
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,799
Speaker 3: He's just as good as any quarterback.

1816
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 18: Yeah.

1817
01:21:58,040 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 8: That's what's cool about sports. There's one guy who has

1818
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 8: all the physical tools and the guy who maybe doesn't

1819
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 8: quite I mean trade. He still has amazing physical RULs.

1820
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 8: But you know, in the grand scheme of NFL quarterbacks,

1821
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 8: he's maybe not the most mobile guy, maybe not the

1822
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 8: biggest arm but when you put the package together.

1823
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 6: And when it's on the line, there's no one else

1824
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 6: you'd rather have.

1825
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 3: No justin subject line nonsense from armchair gms. I'm really

1826
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,839
Speaker 3: glad none of these armchair gms are running the Patriots

1827
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 3: front office. We have an excellent number one corner who

1828
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,759
Speaker 3: can shut down one side of the field, but people

1829
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 3: like the caller want to trade him because getting a

1830
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,719
Speaker 3: receiver is more important. It's ridiculous the amount of people

1831
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 3: online who also say to trade Gonzo because of his

1832
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 3: previous injuries. A few people ran the Patriots front office.

1833
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 3: You to ship out Gronk the minute his injuries became

1834
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 3: an issue. Wow, you're here.

1835
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 4: I was going to say, Bill did try to trade Gronk?

1836
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 6: So yeah, I digress.

1837
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 3: I get it.

1838
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 8: It's everybody loves the wide receivers, you know. And I

1839
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 8: think even if you had justin Jefferson or you still

1840
01:22:59,320 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 8: probably won't one.

1841
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 4: I definitely think that they we all kind of I

1842
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 4: think feel like next offseason, you hope that they add

1843
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 4: another piece, but that just to keep it rolling, don't improve.

1844
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I think they.

1845
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 6: I mean I said it yesterday. I think they got to.

1846
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:15,600
Speaker 7: They have to.

1847
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 6: They have to get better this offseason.

1848
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 8: You have to come into the game into next year

1849
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 8: feeling like you felt after they won the Super Bowl

1850
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 8: and all three and they went and got Corey Dillon

1851
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 8: and maybe some people that that seems overkill you just

1852
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,520
Speaker 8: want to But I think that's the kind of step.

1853
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 6: That they need to, you know, continue to take and

1854
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 6: you know, maybe even.

1855
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 8: Just identifying players that we don't even realize that we

1856
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 8: want to try to upgrade this this player. You know,

1857
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 8: they'll have opportunity with some of the few open spots

1858
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 8: on their roster that they're going to have to address.

1859
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 8: But I still think they need at least one or

1860
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 8: two splash guys that really make you think, give you

1861
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 8: reason to believe they're going to be better.

1862
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 4: I have one for you. Give me Isaiah Likely, Yes,

1863
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,600
Speaker 4: because I think Mike brought him up to me like

1864
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 4: two weeks ago. Well, Baltimore just extended Mark Andrews again yesterday.

1865
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 4: Likely is going to be an unrestricted free agent. I

1866
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 4: love Austin Hooper, but you know, if you get Isaiah

1867
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 4: likely much younger player, much more dynamic tight end from Everett.

1868
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 4: From Everett pass the torch. You know, he's not a

1869
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 4: blocker like that's you know, he's not really He's more

1870
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 4: of like a big slot receiver. But Drake loves throwing

1871
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 4: to the tight ends. He loves throwing a big targets.

1872
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would like it.

1873
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 4: That's a solid one. That could be a great move.

1874
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 3: Okay, Patty's an what's up, Patty?

1875
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 7: Patty?

1876
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 23: Hey guys, and get what's going on right?

1877
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 6: Rocking and rolling?

1878
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 3: Okay?

1879
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1880
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 23: Man, So it's my annual phone called the Bitch about

1881
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 23: Rodney Harrison not being in the Hall of Fame just yet?

1882
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 16: What about two guys?

1883
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 23: But I feel like if he doesn't get in this year,

1884
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 23: he's gonna have to wait till his filly's eligible for

1885
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 23: the Senior Committee to be voted on. And to me,

1886
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,719
Speaker 23: that's Paul, I'm with you, like I know you love Rodney.

1887
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 23: Rodney is my second favorite Patriot of all time, behind

1888
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 23: Tom and just my opinion. But the area played and

1889
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:08,520
Speaker 23: there was Ed Reed, and there was Doc and Palamalu

1890
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 23: and Harrison frank them however you want.

1891
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, Bill Balichick would agree with you. Thanks, Patty. Uh,

1892
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 3: Let's go to Mark and Vermont. Mark, Mark and Vermont.

1893
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:25,719
Speaker 6: Oh Hi Mark, Mark, We're going tomorrow.

1894
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 7: Sorry Mark?

1895
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I wass gonna have some racks, you know, donuts?

1896
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1897
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,879
Speaker 3: Uh always is in Texas.

1898
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 7: What's up?

1899
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 3: Ois? Hey? What's going on? Guys?

1900
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 10: Hey?

1901
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1902
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 24: So I've been trying to you know, I've been I've

1903
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 24: been drawing some parallels with the Golden State Warriors when

1904
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 24: they had Mark Jackson and then you know, they they

1905
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 24: got you know, Steve Kerr, and then it was like

1906
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 24: almost like a flip that was just so you know,

1907
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 24: and Kerr, you know, his experience with the goat and

1908
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 24: kind of how we got rapes and he's played with

1909
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 24: our goat. You know, I feel like I have a

1910
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 24: very good feeling that, you know, we might end up

1911
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 24: making a deep run. And for whatever reason, if he

1912
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 24: if he don't get the job done, who do you

1913
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 24: think could be a Karen Durant that would want to

1914
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 24: join our Patriots in NFL terms that will give us

1915
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 24: like a shoe win or Super Bowl almost every every year.

1916
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 4: Follow well, Mark Jackson was the Warriors with Mark Jackson

1917
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 4: were much better than the Patriots were pre Frable, the

1918
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 4: Larwyors and Mark Jackson. I want to say they went

1919
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 4: to Game seven against the Thunder with Durant and Westbrook.

1920
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 6: I don't know anything.

1921
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 4: And then they also won a title without Durant too.

1922
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:50,959
Speaker 5: They won multiple times.

1923
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 4: In terms of the timeline, but with.

1924
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 5: Kerr Yeah, I don't I'm with you. I'm not sure.

1925
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 4: I can't remember, but they they Mark Jackson took the

1926
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 4: Warriors a lot further than like Gerrodmeo took the page

1927
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 4: and there was a lot.

1928
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, And his point was that they had before, you know,

1929
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 7: a subpart coach and then a coach that obviously got

1930
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 7: them over the top.

1931
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,719
Speaker 5: That is that that parallel, I think is is accurate.

1932
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 7: But the Warriors were much better, much better than the

1933
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 7: Patriots were that pretty well inherited. There's a reason why

1934
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 7: he turned the like is it fifty percent? I mean,

1935
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 7: I don't know what the number is, but the roster

1936
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 7: turnover is like way higher than the average percentage, right,

1937
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know what what the numbers are,

1938
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 7: and you might have them like off the top of

1939
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 7: your head, But is it like thirty thirty three, thirty

1940
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 7: five percent, you know, typical, and the Patriots had to

1941
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,520
Speaker 7: be like fifty yeah turnover.

1942
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 4: They're they're they were like around in the like the

1943
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 4: forty to forty five percent when they made the roster

1944
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 4: and at a camp. Now that it's changed a million times,

1945
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 4: it's probably even more so. But I don't know if

1946
01:27:58,479 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 4: you really want to count that because it's all the

1947
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 4: in season.

1948
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 7: No, no, I'm transaction.

1949
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 5: I would be talking about what they opened the.

1950
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 7: Yeah and there, and there are still a number of guys,

1951
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 7: you know, you obviously Drake May was here, so you

1952
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 7: know that that would count.

1953
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 5: But we were talking about this this morning.

1954
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 7: There's there's a handful of guys that we're here that

1955
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 7: are significant contributors, like I mean in addition to May,

1956
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 7: but like Christian Barmo, Christian Gonzales, Martis Jones, you know Hunter,

1957
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:31,919
Speaker 7: Henry Michael Wenthu would be another one, you know, Remandre.

1958
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 7: I mean, they have guys that have contributed. So it's

1959
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 7: not like this is all new guys in Rabel's just

1960
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 7: magic doing it all. But this is this is about

1961
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 7: Drake May's ascension and the new coaches culture.

1962
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 3: We were talking about best rookie seasons for Patriots Tennis

1963
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 3: San Diego says Robert Edwards eleven hundred yards and ninety eight.

1964
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:56,600
Speaker 5: Nothing compared to it was a soft e correct, yeah, correct.

1965
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 4: Don't play beach football.

1966
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, now what he what he might have been? But yeah,

1967
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,560
Speaker 7: I agree he that was a really good team that

1968
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 7: he you know, it was a past first team that

1969
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 7: he took advantage of a lot of.

1970
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 6: Did Aaron Hernandez sniff of that at all in twenty ten?

1971
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 6: I mean he was better than Gronk. I don't know

1972
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 6: if he was that good.

1973
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 7: I mean I always thought Gronk was better even that year.

1974
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 7: But yeah, sure they had if they both had good

1975
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 7: rookie years. But I would like Curtis Martin was like,

1976
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 7: you know, really good as I think he had fourteen

1977
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 7: There was a fourteen hundred yards?

1978
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 5: Maybe?

1979
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 7: Am I over?

1980
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 5: Am I over remembering that?

1981
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 3: That might be?

1982
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 6: I mean what about your Rob Mayo defensive Rookie of

1983
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 6: the year.

1984
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,839
Speaker 4: They all think that was fake? No socks included.

1985
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, made a lot of tackles.

1986
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,560
Speaker 7: Tackle machine you know me about you know me and

1987
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 7: tackle machines.

1988
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 4: We don't like tackles around here. We don't know we like.

1989
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 6: TFLs I in ts.

1990
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 7: You have any Did he have any of those? Those?

1991
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 5: Interesting to think?

1992
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't.

1993
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 7: I'd have to check.

1994
01:29:56,280 --> 01:30:00,839
Speaker 3: Let's see Stump the grump nice quick one U Kylon Pembroke.

1995
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 3: Only four Patriots quarterbacks have had twenty five or more

1996
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 3: passing touchdowns in a season, and make him be the fifth.

1997
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 3: He gets two more. Brady did it fourteen times, Bled

1998
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 3: so three, Grogan once? Who was the fourth? HEAs Nope, Sugar,

1999
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 3: you only did it once.

2000
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2001
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say, just babe, to have fun, babe early,

2002
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 7: just to have because I didn't think Castle threw for

2003
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 7: more than twenty five that year.

2004
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 11: Babe Prilly, Yeah, it's probably closed the babe, but I

2005
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 11: was going to most people know that as the babe,

2006
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 11: not you know, baby Perilly, bigger deal than the other babe.

2007
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 7: Imagine if we were joining the show, then that's what

2008
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:52,879
Speaker 7: Fred would say. Yeah, what if Babe Perilli was our quarterback?

2009
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 7: Now you'd be like, yeah, the babe, the ba twenty one,

2010
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 7: Babe Castle twenty one.

2011
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:58,759
Speaker 6: Twenty one on eleven.

2012
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:00,040
Speaker 4: You're in for a little bit.

2013
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 3: Right, Eddie frisky Eddie in La. I'm gonna be honest

2014
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 3: and say, I'm actually scared to see the Texans in

2015
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 3: the playoffs. That defense is the best in the league,

2016
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 3: and if the offense could be more consistent, they can

2017
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 3: be a much better team all around. Then they've shown

2018
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 3: they scare me more than the Broncos, Chiefs, and Colts.

2019
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,520
Speaker 3: I feel every other AFC team would be a cakewalk.

2020
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 3: What do you all think.

2021
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 7: I think you're crazy if you think every team is

2022
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 7: a cakewalker. But Daniel Hunter and I don't hate your

2023
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 7: your Texans Broncos down.

2024
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 4: I mean, if Miles Garrett wasn't in the league, like

2025
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 4: Will Anderson is the best defensive player in football, Like

2026
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 4: it just happens that he's on Earth with an alien

2027
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 4: so it doesn't really count. But like he's Will Anderson

2028
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 4: is a scary dude. That guy's unbelieving.

2029
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 7: The Texans to me, would worry me a little more

2030
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 7: than the Broncos. I need to see a little more.

2031
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 7: But if if Stroud is like Stroud is so much

2032
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 7: better than Bonnicks, if he's back and healthy and they

2033
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,560
Speaker 7: play the last month of the season, yeah you know

2034
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 7: that's that.

2035
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 3: That would be.

2036
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 7: Now they played those two teams played and they played

2037
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 7: an absolute rock fight the Broncos and the Texans that

2038
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 7: that the Broncos ended up stealing late, I think, or

2039
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 7: something like that.

2040
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 3: I think what's keeping fans from being totally confident about

2041
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 3: this offense going up against anybody is the fact that

2042
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 3: a lot of these second halfs, they haven't scored a

2043
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 3: lot of points, and we haven't seen that game where

2044
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:32,560
Speaker 3: they've had forty five points pure offensive points, you know,

2045
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 3: no special teams defense mixed in, and we haven't seen

2046
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 3: that yet. But like we were talking about earlier, they

2047
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 3: haven't really needed it yet. You know, they haven't been

2048
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,759
Speaker 3: in a game where they had a score that many points,

2049
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 3: but we haven't seen that. So I think that's what's

2050
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 3: when they go against a Cup defense, it's going to

2051
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 3: be you know.

2052
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's that as much as who

2053
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 7: they've gone against. I think some people ducking, but.

2054
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 3: They've pass defenses, but they haven't.

2055
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 7: They haven't faced a lot of good defenses, and the

2056
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 7: good defenses they do face are terrible teams.

2057
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 5: So you don't have the pressure of scoring.

2058
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair, but I mean, I think to me,

2059
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,679
Speaker 4: at least, there's still maybe a little bit of trepidation

2060
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 4: with the offensive line, and if they go up against

2061
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 4: the pass rush like Houston's with these you know, monsters

2062
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 4: on the edge. You know, is Will Campbell going to

2063
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 4: be healthy to play in that game? Is it going

2064
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 4: to be Vederian or right? Where is he going to

2065
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 4: be at when he does come back? You know, I

2066
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 4: I understand. You know, their their numbers are much better

2067
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 4: as an offensive line than last year, but it's still average.

2068
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 3: If Houston was undefeated, I'd be more worried. But other

2069
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 3: teams have beat them.

2070
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, and largely because they started very slow. Yeah, they

2071
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 7: did start starting the quarterback, you know. I mean in

2072
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 7: Mills's defense, they managed to win the games that he played,

2073
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 7: but their offense is very limited without Stroud. They want

2074
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 7: they want on rock fights for the most part, with

2075
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 7: the exception of that miracle comeback against Jacksonville that they

2076
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 7: had like twenty nine points in the fourth quarter or something.

2077
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 4: I'm all right, I just wonder, like if they like you,

2078
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 4: Drake may has got to handle pressure as well as

2079
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 4: he has all year. Like that that's been their their

2080
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 4: answer to a lot of it.

2081
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 3: So Hey, Darius slay Is hasn't reported to the Bills yet.

2082
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 7: He contemplating with he thinks he doesn't want to play.

2083
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he retired in the locker room at halftime.

2084
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, it's that time of the week, Davis. Yeah,

2085
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 3: So Paul, what happened last week?

2086
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 7: Let's see, it was Alex, Evan and Fred all ten

2087
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 7: and six, Paul nine and seven, and Mike eight and eight.

2088
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 4: You do the Superman maybe accidentally, not accidentally with the

2089
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 4: spread trolling Kim Newton, No.

2090
01:34:54,680 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 25: With the spread, Paul eleven four and one, wow, wow,

2091
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 25: even ten five and one.

2092
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 4: Coming back at job By.

2093
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:07,560
Speaker 5: You want to come back for Paul, Alex.

2094
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 7: And Fred eight seven and one and and Mike four.

2095
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 7: I gotta do the eleven in one.

2096
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 6: I gotta start doing the George Costanzo at this point?

2097
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 3: Are you're doing this on purpose?

2098
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 4: Fred?

2099
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 7: So here's the most updated standings. Fred maintains his slim

2100
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 7: one game lead over Alex one thirty one sixty two

2101
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 7: and one. Alex one thirty sixty three and one. Mike

2102
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 7: won twenty three seventy and one, Paul won twenty one

2103
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 7: seventy two and one. Evan won seventeen seventy six and one.

2104
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 7: Tight with the spread dominance continues by Fred Kursch one

2105
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 7: oh six, eighty six and two, Paul ninety eight, ninety

2106
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 7: four and two, Evan ninety five, ninety seven and two,

2107
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 7: Alex ninety three, ninety nine and two, and Mike eighty one,

2108
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 7: twelve and two eighty.

2109
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 3: That's why I don't bet thirty two for those who,

2110
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 3: among other reasons eighty and.

2111
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 7: One twelve it is hard easily keeping what's more impressive?

2112
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 7: One o six and eighty six for Fred or eighty

2113
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 7: and one twelve for Mike.

2114
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 4: Get all into the spectrum here, you just fade.

2115
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 7: Dus saved me? Yeah, all right, doesn't know what that means?

2116
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 3: All right, trying to We gotta hurry. Let's get into

2117
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:45,639
Speaker 3: it starting tonight on Thursday Night, Prime Video the Dallas

2118
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 3: Cowboys six five and one at Detroit seven and five.

2119
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 7: I'll be watching Detroit by three. I will not be

2120
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 7: why streaming, I don't do that.

2121
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 4: Oh and then I'll come in right about the game

2122
01:36:59,640 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 4: because I.

2123
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:03,839
Speaker 7: In Evan's right, Well, I won't. I don't know about tomorrow,

2124
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 7: will Yeah, you're right, but I watched that little clip

2125
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:08,599
Speaker 7: that they put out.

2126
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 5: It's like a ten to twelve minute clip.

2127
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, you see.

2128
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 3: You have you have Amazon right Prime?

2129
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 17: Oh?

2130
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,759
Speaker 7: I have Prime, so you have it spots.

2131
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 4: I don't like not being able to change the channel.

2132
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 6: God, I don't.

2133
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 7: I say it's hard to do.

2134
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 4: It's the channel change.

2135
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:25,759
Speaker 5: I want to change the channel.

2136
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 3: You have an iPad.

2137
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 2: I don't understand your generation with the channel changing.

2138
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 3: I like to a lot of I watch.

2139
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:32,719
Speaker 5: I watch a lot of Skill.

2140
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 4: He has a lot of programs, Alex.

2141
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 3: I do stories.

2142
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:37,640
Speaker 7: To watch my stories.

2143
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 4: With the best stress out.

2144
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 7: I watch a lot of Islands. I watch a lot.

2145
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 2: Do you watch a lot of.

2146
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 3: Violand that's on the show. One of them should be football.

2147
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:46,679
Speaker 3: I don't.

2148
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 5: I don't watch that.

2149
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:48,799
Speaker 7: You know, Love Island.

2150
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2151
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 2: There's some reality shows that you get to that I

2152
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 2: have raised my eyes.

2153
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 4: I don't really watch it, Evans, I.

2154
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 5: Don't really watch any reality shows, to be honest.

2155
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 2: Football, all right, let's go the world's Greatest Stag Detroit.

2156
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 6: Three is gonna Uh's wrong? Pick is going to be Dallas.

2157
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 4: Oh well, now I'm not gonna take Dallas and I'm

2158
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 4: taking I'm taking the plus three.

2159
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 8: I'm going with the upset allons. I think I'm gonna

2160
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 8: ras a game time decision. I think he's important piece,

2161
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 8: so I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Dallas in the upset.

2162
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fade Dous and take Detroit. Both ways.

2163
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna take Dallas, but now that took Dallas,

2164
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 4: I'm nervous. I do want to take a small victory

2165
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 4: lap about the de Lions offense without Ben Johnson, Uh

2166
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:33,560
Speaker 4: definitely has not been as good. I wonder why uh so,

2167
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 4: but uh, Dallas' defense is also not great. But I

2168
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 4: am gonna take Dallas in this game because I think

2169
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott is like low key been awesome. Is that

2170
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 4: a great season?

2171
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2172
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:48,759
Speaker 4: It might be the third m VP candidate with Stafford

2173
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 4: and Drake May if they keep winning. And he's been

2174
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 4: really really good.

2175
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 7: So I thinking Dallas has been good. They've been on

2176
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 7: the on the rise, and Dak Prescott has been tremendous.

2177
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 7: That had a great start to No one really cares

2178
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 7: all season. He has been really really good. But here's

2179
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 7: where I take Detroit. And the reason why I take

2180
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:09,720
Speaker 7: Detroit is because just when people start talking about Dallas like.

2181
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 3: That every year, that's true, I think Detroit is a

2182
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 3: little bit desperate. I'm gonna have them win, but I'm

2183
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 3: gonna take the points. I think it's gonna be a

2184
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 3: very close.

2185
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 6: Game, one or two points.

2186
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think it's gonna be close. But I'll

2187
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 3: take the point.

2188
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 7: That is a quasi playoff game, both teams fighting for

2189
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 7: their lives.

2190
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 3: Sunday at one on Fox Seattle where it's they're not

2191
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 3: in Seattle, so it's not loud in Atlanta. Seattle's nine

2192
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 3: to three. They're going to Atlanta at four and eight.

2193
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:45,440
Speaker 7: Seattle by seven seven.

2194
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 8: Still Kirk Cousins obviously, Yeah, I'm gonna take Seattle to win.

2195
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:55,160
Speaker 6: But I'm gonna say the Falcons are a little feisty

2196
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 6: at home. I'll take the seven points.

2197
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 4: Ten am bodyclock game.

2198
01:39:58,760 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they love it.

2199
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 6: They're more people as the Seahawks team.

2200
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 3: How many points seven seven?

2201
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 2: I'll take Seattle away the points.

2202
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 4: Can it take Seattle both ways? That might have been

2203
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 4: the best defensive performance in the history of the NFL

2204
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 4: last week against Max Bros.

2205
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 7: Was it really wasn't really talk about a guy who

2206
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 7: didn't be no disrespect the guys an NFL player, but

2207
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:26,679
Speaker 7: talk about a guy who didn't belong in an NFL game.

2208
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 4: Well, I just mean statistically, I don't mean it was.

2209
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:32,600
Speaker 7: It was ridiculous. I think one of the guys on

2210
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:34,599
Speaker 7: the I'm going to take Seattle both ways too. One

2211
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:36,720
Speaker 7: of the guys on on one of the recaps was

2212
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 7: saying that they could still be playing in Minnesota, still

2213
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 7: would have zero.

2214
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 3: Sunday at one Battle for the AFC North on CBS,

2215
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh is six and six, so is Baltimore, and it's

2216
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 3: in Baltimore.

2217
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 5: Ravens by six.

2218
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:58,440
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson not practicing today. Oh man, he's got an ankle.

2219
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 6: Injury and me this right. It's been lingering.

2220
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 7: He's got multiple injuries and you know they didn't Yeah,

2221
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 7: they've had a mini buy and he's still not practicing.

2222
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll take I'll take Baltimore to win.

2223
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 8: I'll take the points for Pittsburgh though, close division game

2224
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:12,640
Speaker 8: with quarterback banged up.

2225
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 7: Sorry, I love it.

2226
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:16,560
Speaker 6: I mean everybody's.

2227
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:18,719
Speaker 4: It's making me nervous.

2228
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 3: I love that.

2229
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 7: I go first to I sent the stage staff he's

2230
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 7: eighty and one twelve.

2231
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 2: I'm going to take Baltimore.

2232
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 10: I'll lay the points to fade Mike and just I

2233
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 10: think again, Baltimore's dead.

2234
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 6: I'm providing a service here for the crew.

2235
01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:37,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but watch it go terribly for us this time.

2236
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:38,680
Speaker 6: I just clean up.

2237
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 8: It is true though my record is better than Fred's.

2238
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 8: If you reverse the numbers, what's more impressive.

2239
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 6: So you're welcome.

2240
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 4: I'm tempted to pick, like a rock fight Baltimore by

2241
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 4: three division game, but that Steelers offense is wretched, and

2242
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:55,600
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers.

2243
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 3: Is just he's a mess.

2244
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 4: It's physically yeah, it's physically just as banged up, if

2245
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:01,600
Speaker 4: not more than Lamar. So I'm gonna take Baltimore to

2246
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 4: the cruise in this one.

2247
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 7: Definitely Baltimore to win. They just don't look right to

2248
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 7: me as a team. But you guys are right about that.

2249
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 7: That offense for Pittsburgh is hard to put any faith in.

2250
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 7: I'll lay the points. Usually Pittsburgh and Baltimore played tighter.

2251
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 3: They do, so I'm gonna take the points. Baltimore will win,

2252
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 3: but I think Pittsburgh's within six. We'll see Mike Tomlin.

2253
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 3: I'm a tempted to just lay them, but I'll take

2254
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 3: the points. Is there a hook?

2255
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 7: There there's no hook.

2256
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 3: There's no hook.

2257
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 5: I'll come because there's only six.

2258
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:40,640
Speaker 3: I know, like they should never do that because then

2259
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:41,599
Speaker 3: they can push.

2260
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 6: Why do they do that?

2261
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 4: Yes, is five and the hook to encourage.

2262
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:49,840
Speaker 5: I mean, it could be different on DraftKings now first

2263
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:50,479
Speaker 5: thing in the morning.

2264
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 4: But there's Lamar not practicing. News just broke so problem.

2265
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 3: That's pushing it. Sunday at one on Fox, the one

2266
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:02,880
Speaker 3: and eleven tightens at the three and nine Browns.

2267
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 5: What a great game? Oh my, Cleveland by four and

2268
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 5: a half.

2269
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 6: And who is the Quarterback's a still Shire?

2270
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:13,720
Speaker 3: Actually Sean Watson's practicing open.

2271
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 6: They open the window, the window bringing some leadership back

2272
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:22,640
Speaker 6: to that room. Windowesh, let's slip that one in. I

2273
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 6: was gonna take Cleveland at home.

2274
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:24,759
Speaker 7: I lay the points.

2275
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:27,640
Speaker 6: I don't know, Okay, I.

2276
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 2: Take Cleveland to win, and then I'll hedge give Tennessee

2277
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 2: the points.

2278
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 4: I'm going to take Cleveland both ways. I think there's

2279
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:37,639
Speaker 4: a chance Miles Garrett breaks the sack record in this game,

2280
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 4: and I just think Cleveland's defense dominates and causes like

2281
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 4: five turnovers.

2282
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna do the same thing for the same reason.

2283
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 7: I think the only reason to watch this game is

2284
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 7: to see if Miles Gary can sack cam Ward I

2285
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:51,759
Speaker 7: don't know seven times and win get the record.

2286
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 3: Sunday at one, Oh, I didn't do my pick Cleveland

2287
01:43:56,520 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 3: both ways. I can't believe I'm in the hot AFC South.

2288
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 3: It's the h Indianapolis Colts at eight and four, going

2289
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 3: to Jacksonville eight and four Sunday at one on CBS.

2290
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,800
Speaker 7: Good game, Colts by one and a half. Good game,

2291
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:11,680
Speaker 7: Good game, Mike.

2292
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 5: You always yell at me when I don't tell you

2293
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 5: when there's things.

2294
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:16,639
Speaker 7: The Jags own the Colts.

2295
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 6: I know, I you know that's one I actually do.

2296
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 4: Remember.

2297
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take the Jags and Trevor Lawrence. I think, uh,

2298
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 6: I'm fading the Colts.

2299
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 2: Colts, Colts.

2300
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 4: This one's hard for me because I don't know which

2301
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:31,560
Speaker 4: team's fake. I don't know which team to believe in.

2302
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna take Duvall because Daniel Jones with a

2303
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 4: broken fibula does not seem like a good formula for

2304
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 4: the Colts to win games down the stretch.

2305
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,599
Speaker 6: So do all three d printed Grace.

2306
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:48,799
Speaker 7: I'm again in lockstep with Evan Jacksonville for the reasons

2307
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 7: he said.

2308
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 6: I said it to Paul.

2309
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 7: I said jackson the Daniel Jones broken fibulary.

2310
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 5: That's why I'm on Jacksonville.

2311
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 3: Folks, you're looking for a lock This is it Jacksonville.

2312
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 3: That's your lock.

2313
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 7: You're welcome.

2314
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:01,760
Speaker 3: There you go.

2315
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,560
Speaker 4: He loves Trevor Lawrence. You love Trevor. That's Trevor.

2316
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:11,600
Speaker 3: Washington three and nine at Minnesota, four and eight on

2317
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 3: Fox Sunday at one Minnesota by two and a half.

2318
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 4: JJ nine is back. Nine's back.

2319
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 5: No, I know what it means, but like, who makes

2320
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 5: fun of that?

2321
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 4: Oh, it's his.

2322
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 8: It's his alter ego that he says, like he calls

2323
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:27,639
Speaker 8: him nine that. I mean he flips the switch kind

2324
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 8: of like in.

2325
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:28,639
Speaker 7: Over the top.

2326
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 5: That's what I'm asking.

2327
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 6: Switch the hat. It's like a machine, you knowuse I.

2328
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 7: Noticed herb Street's big on that. Yeah, he refers to

2329
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 7: guys by their numbers.

2330
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 4: When I'm between the lines, I'm nine.

2331
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 7: I think was the he won't be surprised to learn Alex.

2332
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 7: I don't care for it. I like just call him

2333
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 7: by his name.

2334
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 6: I like when coaches do it.

2335
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 8: They're like, like, you're playing the Browns and we're gonna

2336
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 8: have to be aware of number ninety five.

2337
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:51,679
Speaker 6: Miles Scarett.

2338
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was big.

2339
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 4: He was a numbers guy. He wasn't a names guy,

2340
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 4: but he would always have the names.

2341
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, for the Wednesday press conference. Oh yes, oh yeah,

2342
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 7: oh yeah, that was the But I've had a chance

2343
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 7: to watch film with Belichick and he's absolutely right. Every

2344
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 7: single guy is like, you know this bleep in the slot,

2345
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 7: you know thirty one here, like that's how we referred

2346
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 7: to everybody.

2347
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 5: But on Wednesdays he had all the names.

2348
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 7: Uh last name two, you are correct, I'm gonna go

2349
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 7: two and a half in Minnesota.

2350
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 8: Then I'm gonna take Minnesota at home, I'll take nine. No,

2351
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 8: you're not rolling with nine.

2352
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 4: It's a crazy pick.

2353
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:28,639
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Washington.

2354
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:29,679
Speaker 5: It's a crazy pick.

2355
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 4: I'm also taking Washington.

2356
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:32,839
Speaker 7: Washington.

2357
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 4: Mariota looked a little Mariota sorry, he looked a little,

2358
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 4: a little frisky. And that Vikings team is broken.

2359
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 7: I think, yeah, I'm gonna take Washington too, But I'm

2360
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:46,000
Speaker 7: a little worried that they sort of emptied the tank

2361
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 7: in that game Sunday night.

2362
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 3: But what are the shots? Really? Why? Why is Minnesota

2363
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 3: this game? What are the shots?

2364
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 5: Two bad teams?

2365
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 6: They took the home team that's only two and a

2366
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:56,839
Speaker 6: hal because usually at home.

2367
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 3: Even more like it's more like two.

2368
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:04,720
Speaker 7: But they both had the same, like same similar records, right, yep, ye,

2369
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:06,679
Speaker 7: three and eight the home team.

2370
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 3: I'm going to take Washington. I like what I saw

2371
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 3: last week.

2372
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 4: This is actually uh it's two and a half on ESPN,

2373
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 4: and so two and a half it's a that isn't

2374
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 4: there the home team, so they're getting two and a half.

2375
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 4: So it's really it's assentially all right.

2376
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:26,559
Speaker 3: Sunday at one on CBS Miami five and seven at

2377
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 3: New Jersey three and nine. I'm talking about the Jets here.

2378
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:31,920
Speaker 5: Miami by two and a half.

2379
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 8: The weather kind of makes this interesting because think' supposed

2380
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 8: to be an arctic cold this weekend, and I assume

2381
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:38,280
Speaker 8: that would be the case in New York as well,

2382
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 8: and I just love Miami and the cold. Uh So

2383
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 8: I'm just gonna keep my crazy Deuces crazy picks this week.

2384
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 8: Going on the bye week, I'm taking the Jets up

2385
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 8: set at home, sit down Miami in one twelve take Miami.

2386
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 7: I didn't get it for a second. He's being me

2387
01:47:57,360 --> 01:47:58,439
Speaker 7: to you today. He's your boy.

2388
01:47:58,640 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 3: I love it.

2389
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 4: It's good for the show. It's all.

2390
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:08,720
Speaker 6: We'll have one on one after this Miami Me.

2391
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I do agree with Deuce that, uh, the

2392
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 4: cold is a factor here for the Miami Dolphins coming

2393
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:19,800
Speaker 4: up north. But that Jets team is just not good

2394
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 4: enough and the Dolphins are kind of rolling. So I'm

2395
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 4: going to take the Dolphins.

2396
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 5: I don't think.

2397
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 7: I mean, I love the struggle.

2398
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:28,800
Speaker 3: Look at this.

2399
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna take Miami.

2400
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 7: But I am not like this whole like, oh they're

2401
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 7: back in, Like if they were again, if they were

2402
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 7: like blowing doors off of these bad teams, or at

2403
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:43,719
Speaker 7: least looking better against these bad teams, maybe I'd believe

2404
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:46,759
Speaker 7: in it more. But I could absolutely see Mike's pick coming.

2405
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 6: Through the Jets little respect.

2406
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 7: But I'll take I'll take Miami, and all of a sudden,

2407
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 7: there's six and seven.

2408
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm agreeing with Mike. I'm going with

2409
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 3: the Jets.

2410
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:56,479
Speaker 4: I start.

2411
01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 6: You know, there's literally a whole song where it's like

2412
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 6: he's lasting the picks. I mean, there's been songs written

2413
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:01,840
Speaker 6: about my performancy.

2414
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 4: So I get nervous.

2415
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 3: Negative. Sunday at one on CBS, it's the two and

2416
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 3: ten Saints at the seven and five Buccaneers.

2417
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 7: Boy, Tampa got this season bailed up by some bad scheduling.

2418
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:18,599
Speaker 5: Huh, Tampa by eight and a half.

2419
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:21,719
Speaker 3: They were reeling is Mayfield playing.

2420
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, what's that iron man?

2421
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 3: He is an iron man.

2422
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 4: We know who Red's taken.

2423
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 3: In this game.

2424
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:30,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm taking Tampa. A lay the points, Tampa Tampa.

2425
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 4: So I will say Tyler Shuck has like been like

2426
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 4: sneaky fun. Watched him a little bit yesterday, like it's

2427
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 4: sneaky fun. But I'm gonna take the bucks.

2428
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 7: Why were you watching him yesterday?

2429
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 4: Because he's been sneaky fun, Like he just does these

2430
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 4: things and like he's like, you know, running around like

2431
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:52,519
Speaker 4: six guys coming after him and making throws like there's

2432
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 4: a little something there.

2433
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:54,760
Speaker 5: Convinced me.

2434
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:55,639
Speaker 7: I'll take the points.

2435
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 5: Chucking don Tampa and I'll take the points.

2436
01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 3: I will take Bccaneers both ways they cover. So now

2437
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 3: the crown jewel of the one o'clock slate, it's the

2438
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 3: four and eight Bengals at the eight and four jewel.

2439
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 7: Buffalo by five and a half.

2440
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 4: Buffalo by five and a hal that's crazy, disrespectful.

2441
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:20,680
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take Buffalo to win. I'm gonna take the

2442
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:21,679
Speaker 6: points for Joe Burr.

2443
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 2: I'm doing the same thing.

2444
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:24,839
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do the thread.

2445
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 3: Window closing.

2446
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 4: The window is closing. I'm taking the Bengals. I think

2447
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 4: the Bengals have been playing better than the Bills lately.

2448
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:36,479
Speaker 4: I think the Bills are starting to get a little

2449
01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:38,719
Speaker 4: bit of nerves. They're getting a little hot bunch. They're

2450
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:41,720
Speaker 4: in Buffalo with their GM and head coach. I'm taking

2451
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 4: the Bengals nice.

2452
01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 7: I'll take the Bills at home both ways, they are.

2453
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 4: Much better at home.

2454
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:53,600
Speaker 3: I'm with Evan, let's go Bengals, killing you.

2455
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 6: I hate them, hate him, but he loves the Patriots more.

2456
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 3: The least they can do for me is win this game.

2457
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 3: Now we move to four oh five. Uh, it's the

2458
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:06,840
Speaker 3: Denver Broncos at ten and two at the Raiders at

2459
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 3: two and ten.

2460
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:09,559
Speaker 5: Denver by seven and a half.

2461
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 3: Ooh, it feels like a big number for Denver.

2462
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 13: Uh.

2463
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna.

2464
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:18,000
Speaker 6: I don't want to antagonize any Broncos fans.

2465
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 8: I'm gonna take Denver and I'm gonna but I'm gonna

2466
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:22,600
Speaker 8: take the points for the Raiders because you know what,

2467
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 8: Bronco fans, the Raiders a little more frisky than anything

2468
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:26,760
Speaker 8: or not.

2469
01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2470
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 2: I'm tempted to do it us did, but I won't

2471
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:32,000
Speaker 2: Denver Denver.

2472
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 4: The first time these teams played. It was close, but

2473
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 4: it was a Thursday night game.

2474
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 7: Ten seven Denver.

2475
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the fraud Broncos, but I am going

2476
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 4: to take the Raiders to cover that spread.

2477
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:47,640
Speaker 3: I am.

2478
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Denver both ways.

2479
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 7: I think you probably should. I think they remember how

2480
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:54,639
Speaker 7: close that game was. There'll be a lot of Broncos

2481
01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 7: fans in Vegas. It'll be like another home game, which

2482
01:51:57,000 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 7: fred to you a point. They play all their games

2483
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 7: at all, right, Right, when you look at.

2484
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 3: These Division games, when one of them is close, usually

2485
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 3: the other one isn't ive. So Denver covers this game.

2486
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 3: They'll lose some games, don't worry, but not this one.

2487
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 3: Sunday four twenty five on Fox Chicago is nine and three.

2488
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 3: They're going to Green Bay, who was eight three and one.

2489
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 7: Good ball game, green Bay by six and a half.

2490
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 3: Oh really, it's Respec's that's.

2491
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:28,480
Speaker 6: Respect right, That's pretty significant.

2492
01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 7: It's almost like people have actually watched the games and

2493
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:34,640
Speaker 7: realized that one team's pretty good. This has a lot

2494
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 7: of talent.

2495
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 5: The other team's doing it.

2496
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:37,799
Speaker 3: With mers turnovers.

2497
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:40,720
Speaker 6: Ben Johns, Yeah, I'll take green Bay at home. I'll

2498
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 6: lay the points.

2499
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 2: I'll take Green Bay to win. I will give Chicago

2500
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:44,759
Speaker 2: the points?

2501
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 4: Did you lay the points? I'm taking my guy. I'm

2502
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:54,200
Speaker 4: taking Ben Johnson. I believe for the du I believe

2503
01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 4: that the Chicago Bears and Ben Johnson win this game.

2504
01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:00,840
Speaker 4: That's my guy. Took a shirt off after the game

2505
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 4: last week. Everybody's talking about that, got it.

2506
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 3: I didn't care.

2507
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 4: Got everybody free hot dogs in Chicago because he's a

2508
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:07,800
Speaker 4: good guy.

2509
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 7: It was a big you know, it was a big thing.

2510
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:11,519
Speaker 3: Right, I'm taking his shirt respect.

2511
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 4: I don't want to.

2512
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 2: I don't want to together you have celebration. Why do

2513
01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 2: they all take their shirts for years?

2514
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 5: So Chubby Paul has never same part, same Chubby.

2515
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 6: I'd follow my pool with the shirt on by Actually.

2516
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 3: Not anymore, Oh no, I never.

2517
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:31,720
Speaker 7: I've never gone swimming with a shirt on. I know,

2518
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 7: but Chubby Paul does not just randomly take a Choy Paul.

2519
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 3: You have to run around in the shower to get wet.

2520
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 5: Do you know the details of what?

2521
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:40,800
Speaker 24: Like?

2522
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:42,680
Speaker 5: Wasn't it some kind of agreement?

2523
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:46,600
Speaker 4: So the uh, this very famous hot dog place in

2524
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 4: Chicago said that if Ben Johnson took his shirt off

2525
01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 4: in the postgame celebration that they would give free hot

2526
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:58,719
Speaker 4: dogs for the entire day. To everybody, it was a gimmick.

2527
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:00,760
Speaker 7: It was it was it was some kind of a

2528
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 7: It was so good for him because I like, as

2529
01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 7: you know, I'm generally on your side.

2530
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 5: I'm not a big fan of this wasn't.

2531
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 3: Just because I wanted to get it. For other people,

2532
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:12,840
Speaker 3: that's fine, and.

2533
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 4: I feel like that's not getting talked about enough that

2534
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 4: that was the context of it. So now everybody just

2535
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:20,760
Speaker 4: thinks that he was being a hard oh and just

2536
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:21,599
Speaker 4: took his shirt off.

2537
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 6: I like that.

2538
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wasn't running the stairs before the game.

2539
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 4: Robert fair trade exactly, and Dubbs because he's Ben Johnson's

2540
01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:29,720
Speaker 4: a good coach.

2541
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 6: That wasn't the answer you were looking for. Why do

2542
01:54:31,479 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 6: guys take it because of hot dogs?

2543
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 7: Hot dogs?

2544
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 4: I don't understand that.

2545
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 3: I get it. I hope that right to make the newsletter.

2546
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 7: I hope Evan's right. I'm leaving for Chicago this game.

2547
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 7: I don't like green Bay very much, and I do

2548
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 7: like what Ben Johnson is doing. I don't think that

2549
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 7: the Bears are on the Packers level. I'll take green

2550
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 7: Bay both well.

2551
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 3: Not only are they on the Packers level, they're going

2552
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 3: to be in the Super Bowl against the Patriots. So

2553
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 3: the Bears are going to win.

2554
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:57,560
Speaker 7: Be a continuation.

2555
01:54:58,520 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 6: Bears are going to win.

2556
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 3: Sunday at four to twenty five on Fox, It's the

2557
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 3: Rams at nine and three at the Cardinals three and.

2558
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:11,120
Speaker 5: Nine, Rams by seven and a half Paul's Rams.

2559
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good number.

2560
01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 5: Rams late at Egg last week.

2561
01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 25: Yeah.

2562
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:17,360
Speaker 6: I don't care for Jacoby Brissette's chances in this game.

2563
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:18,280
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take the Rams.

2564
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 4: I have been impressed with Jacoby Brissett, complete and past.

2565
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 4: I have been impressed with him. But I like the

2566
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:29,000
Speaker 4: Rams to bounce back, So.

2567
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 5: I think the Rams will absolutely win the game.

2568
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:34,160
Speaker 7: I will take the hook, and I agree with Evan

2569
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:37,480
Speaker 7: the Cardinals somehow will find a way to be more

2570
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 7: competitive than.

2571
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 5: A team with no wins. Should be angry Browns, So

2572
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:42,720
Speaker 5: I'll take I'll take the hook.

2573
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Rams both ways.

2574
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 6: We have a lot of different I know it's gonna interesting.

2575
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:49,600
Speaker 6: I turn it around.

2576
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be, could be well great coming back

2577
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 3: Sunday night twenty in the Peacock. Uh, it's Houston seven

2578
01:55:59,680 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 3: and five at the Chiefs six and six.

2579
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 7: Now, the desperation game for both sides. Kansas City by

2580
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 7: three and a half.

2581
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 6: Sugar A push, shoot, I don't know what to go

2582
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 6: with this one, guys.

2583
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:12,360
Speaker 3: Push.

2584
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 6: I'm rooting for Houston, Kinna, but I'm going to ta

2585
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:18,560
Speaker 6: Kansas City at home. That's my default mode. Just three

2586
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 6: three and a half and half.

2587
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 3: Ago and a half.

2588
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 2: I'll take Kansas City, but I'll take a close game

2589
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 2: Houston cover.

2590
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 4: NBC and Fubo are in a dispute.

2591
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 6: You're telling me about it right after I signed up

2592
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 6: for We.

2593
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 4: Don't get NBC on Fubo, so we're actually having to

2594
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:37,840
Speaker 4: watch Sunday Night football on Peacock lately, which has been

2595
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:41,240
Speaker 4: very annoying. But I am going to take Kansas City

2596
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:44,920
Speaker 4: at home at Arrowhead because Houston playing outside, I don't

2597
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:47,400
Speaker 4: trust them. I don't trust them to play in that environment.

2598
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 6: With some licks on my HOMESTID take Kansas City.

2599
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 7: I'm going to take Kansas City to win the game,

2600
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:55,680
Speaker 7: but like Alex, I will take the hook and have

2601
01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:57,440
Speaker 7: the Texans lose by a field goal.

2602
01:56:57,560 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. If this was Houston, i'd be

2603
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 3: picking Houston. But I'm worried about Houston's offense in Kansas City. Uh,

2604
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:09,280
Speaker 3: so I will take the points. Kansas City wins, but

2605
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:14,160
Speaker 3: they do not cover Hi Funk. Monday night at eight

2606
01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:18,520
Speaker 3: point fifteen on ESPN, it's the eight and four Spiraling

2607
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:22,280
Speaker 3: Eagles against the Chargers, who are also eight and four.

2608
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:26,760
Speaker 8: Philly by three Philly, Philly. It's another interesting one. Would

2609
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 8: this be on the Rooting interest Guide? Would this be

2610
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:29,480
Speaker 8: a do you have any take?

2611
01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 6: Do we care?

2612
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 4: I mean, is this kind of thing.

2613
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:33,640
Speaker 7: You want to be?

2614
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:34,560
Speaker 5: Warped mindedn't it?

2615
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:36,680
Speaker 7: You'd root for the Chargers because I don't think they're

2616
01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 7: all that good, and you'd want them to make the playoffs.

2617
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, this one doesn't matter.

2618
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:40,480
Speaker 7: Paul's made for this.

2619
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 3: That's that's I.

2620
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 7: Would think evident. Well, you're not allowed to do that,

2621
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 7: though I used to do it for this for this

2622
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 7: very reason.

2623
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 5: You get the smoke if you do it. So I'm

2624
01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 5: not doing it anymore.

2625
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:52,920
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take Philly.

2626
01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:56,280
Speaker 2: I'll lay the points, same Philly, Philly.

2627
01:57:58,120 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 4: I'm tempted to take the Chargers, but Justin Herbert has

2628
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 4: like a broken hand, correct, and he's gonna play with it.

2629
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:06,200
Speaker 5: I think he had surgery Monday.

2630
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has a broken left hand, so it's not

2631
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 4: his throwing hand, but he can't hand the ball off

2632
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 4: with his left hand. The same thing with Rogers, right,

2633
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Speaker 4: so they're all gonna all the snaps are gonna have

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Speaker 4: to right, Yeah, it.

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Speaker 6: Can't.

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Speaker 4: Sorry short Philly.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think this is a good matchup for Philly

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Speaker 7: with their front against the six and seven string tackles

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Speaker 7: that the Chargers have been thrown out there Philly both ways.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as much as Philly is spiraling, this is au

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Speaker 3: they'll get this game because the Charges are also all right. Well,

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Speaker 3: that's it for this week. We didn't skip over anything

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01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:47,520
Speaker 3: because of course the Patriots aren't playing there on the by,

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01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 3: so hopefully everyone's getting rested up, including us. We'll be

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01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 3: back next week. Paul, do you do a pregame show anyway?

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01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 3: Just to go out and just do a pregame show.

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01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:02,240
Speaker 5: This here Saturday though, Well, you guys are enjoying.

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01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:06,840
Speaker 2: What you act like, you're not gonna enjoy that.

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01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 7: No, he doesn't have to act Okay, all right, so

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Speaker 7: we're gonna be a lot of enjoyable.

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Speaker 3: So, Matt, the next time we'll see you is next week,

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Speaker 3: So we'll see you next Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Hey, this is Alex. Thanks for tuning into the show.

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Speaker 26: If you really want to help us, make sure you

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01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 26: like us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get

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01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:31,360
Speaker 26: your podcasts. Also, make sure you follow us on the

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01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 26: New England Patriots YouTube channel to see this show and

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01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:35,879
Speaker 26: everything else we do here at the Patriots.

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Speaker 7: Thanks a lot,