1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: This is all Most Famous Beyond the Bachelor with Susie Evans. 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: Hi, and welcome back to be on the Bachelor. This 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 2: is your host, Susie Evans. Today we are going to 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: be chatting with Kate Vogel, who performed on Jason Mesnick's 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: season of The Bachelor back in two thousand and nine. 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: Her band Your Future Ghost just released a new single, 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: the Only One in May, so we're going to be 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: chatting about her time on the show and life and 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: career since Kate. 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Thank you for being here. Thank you, Susie, 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: thanks so much for having me. 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely Okay, first things first, we'll help right in. What 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: was it like performing your song? I won't disagree on 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: Jason's season of The Bachelor. 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: It was so cool. Honestly, it's so fun to talk 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: about this because, like you said, it's a throwback. It's 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: been a minute, but it was incredibly cool. I mean, 18 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: every single one of my friends watched the show. I 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: grew up you know, watching the show. So it was 20 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: a really cool opportunity. First of all, just to be 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: able to play in my music, like uh, just interesting 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: venue for a show and so different from sort of 23 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: the other stuff I was doing on tour. But also 24 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: it was just really fun to be a part of 25 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: sort of a surprise date night for you know, the 26 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: couple and everything. And they were super sweet, Jason and 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: Natalie was the girl, were incredibly sweet and so it 28 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: was really fun. And it was in Vegas too, so 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: it was like it's always fun to have an excuse 30 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: to go do Vegas, you know, like it was great. 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: Okay, so did you get to meet them after you 32 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: performed or did you get to meet them before? 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: How did that work? It was after so it was 34 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: I think I was like a surprise for uh, Natalie 35 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: that Jason had arranged like this, you know, private concert 36 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: for her, and you know, the curtains opened and then 37 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: me and my band played our song and then I 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: got to chat with them afterwards. So it was cool. 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: It was fun to be like a little surprise guest. 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: That was I don't know if I've ever done, like 41 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: been a surprise for anyone before as a musician, So 42 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. That's really cool. I do love that 43 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: about The Bachelor. 44 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: They really go above and beyond to make things dramatic 45 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: and super exciting for whoever's on the day, even the lead, 46 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: whoever the lead is. It's like, it's not very a 47 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 2: very normal thing to get a private concert at any 48 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: point in life. 49 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: So it's pretty cool. Yeah, it is. It's really impressive 50 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: the stuff that they come up with, you know, it's 51 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: it's super super creative, so that it was really fun 52 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: to be a part of that. And to be honest, 53 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: it was really cool to be on an unscripted set 54 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: because at the time I was playing my music and 55 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: acting on a scripted show called Wantree Hill on the 56 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: CW and I it was like mind blowing to me 57 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: that the cameras are rolling but there's no script and 58 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: you know, like I remember asking one of the producers 59 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: who was helping us out taking us to our green room, 60 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, telling us where to go. And my first 61 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: question was, like I like came in hot with that 62 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: was like, so is any of this real or is 63 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: this just like totally fake? Like do these people actually 64 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: like each other? And he did not think it was funny, 65 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: to be completely honest, Yeah, he was probably just stressed, 66 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He was just like this 67 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: girl like come on, But but yeah, I was just 68 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: fascinated by the idea and so obviously you know all 69 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: about this, so I really should be asking you, like, 70 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: what is I know I have friends who work in 71 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: editing and reality TV, which is an art form in 72 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: and of itself, But what was that like being in 73 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: a situation where it's all fluid and the cameras are 74 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: rolling and you never know what's going to happen next. 75 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: So that's a great question. 76 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: I think it's fun to hear other people that have 77 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: come in for a glimpse of n I always like 78 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: to ask people similar to what you're saying, like did 79 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: you think it was real? Do you think it's real now? 80 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: Because that's the number one question people ask me. What 81 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 2: is it scripted? Or do they make you say certain things? 82 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: And like, technically no one can make you say anything, 83 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: so a lot of it is obviously unstool. All of 84 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: it's unscripted, but there's certainly like it's produced, you know, 85 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: like the producers, Yeah, like putting you in scenarios and 86 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: giving you the opportunity to say something or don't say something. 87 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, like it's yeah, 88 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: free will. But it is, like it's pretty interesting because 89 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: I think for someone like me, I would get really 90 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: self conscious of the cameras. 91 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you. I mean, you obviously. 92 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: Act and perform on stage, and I used to do 93 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: performance growing up, but I always had really bad stage right, 94 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: and I felt similarly being on the show. I would 95 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: be like talking to the guy and all of a 96 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: sudden you see like a cameraman coming in closer, and 97 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: you're like, this is so weird, Like you just can't 98 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: help but get in your head. So it's it was 99 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: kind of weird for me. But and it sounds like 100 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: you probably have a lot of experience, but unscripted is 101 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: a new it's like new territory for almost anybody. 102 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, that makes total sense. I feel like it 103 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: would be almost more weird when you don't have a 104 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: script to stick to, because for me, yeah, that was 105 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: something that you have to kind of get over getting 106 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: up on stage, being in front of cameras on TV sets. 107 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: But it's like these are the lines, and this is 108 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: the performance, and your job is to really embody this 109 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: character and you know, just try to tell the truth, 110 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: try to tell a great story with you know, the 111 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: really great script that the writers have given you. But yeah, 112 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: that is like all bets are off when you know 113 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: it's like you can say anything, and I do, for 114 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: the record, believe that most of it is very authentic. Otherwise, 115 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean reality TV is like a huge, you know genre, 116 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: people love it. I think people can feel when things 117 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: are inauthentic, So I don't think it would be anywhere 118 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: near as big. You know, it's still what is it like, 119 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: season twenty eight or something now eight twenty nine? Unreal? Yeah, 120 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: that actually makes me think. 121 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: I wonder what they'll do for the thirtieth anniversary because 122 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: that's only a years away. 123 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: Probably big fun. Your future ghost is ready to be 124 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: the surprise guest. Just putting that out there. I love 125 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 1: that in service if anybody wants a new indie band 126 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: to be the surprise guest. We're We're, We're, We're there. 127 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: And where are you guys located? I'm in La. My 128 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 1: bandmate is in Austin, so we've made this upcoming album 129 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: in kind of both cities. But yeah, so it's kind 130 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: of fun to have, you know, those two different places 131 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: as inspiration. But yeah, for me, it's it's mostly La. 132 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: That's so cool. Did you have any when you were 133 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: on the show. 134 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: Did it inspire anything in your music or your your songwriting? 135 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: On the TV show on The Bachelor, on One Tree Hill, 136 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: all the about. 137 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: All the above, I was thinking The Bachelor, but honestly, 138 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: I feel like One Tree Hill's so iconic that I'm like, 139 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: there has to be some kind of ins But from 140 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: that as well, well. 141 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: Oh definitely, yeah. I mean being on The Bachelor was 142 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: inspiring because I think that it was as a songwriter, 143 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: it was really cool to just witness the behind the 144 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: scenes of that type of show where there's this date, 145 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: you don't know what's going to happen, but there are 146 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: these cameras, but these are, at the end of the day, 147 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: just two people who are trying to see if they 148 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: vibe yeah, And I think there was something kind of 149 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: really charming about that and just being like, at the 150 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: end of the day, that's really what's going on. And 151 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: that's why I think people love the show so much 152 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: and all the spinoffs, because it is, at the end 153 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: of the day, just people trying to Everybody can relate 154 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: to that being on a first day, third date and 155 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: trying to navigate the awkwardness. And so as a songwriter, 156 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: it was definitely inspiring, you know, because I think that 157 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: when you write songs, you're sort of just trying to 158 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: convey the experience of being a human and how weird 159 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: it is, you know, So that was super inspiring and 160 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: say with onetreal inspiration for years, you know, I mean 161 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: tea for years. So definitely. I think when you when 162 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: you're a creative, you look for inspiration in whatever situation 163 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: you're in, which is what I know I was trying 164 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: to do that. 165 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of you know, tea and behind the scenes, 166 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: is there anything from being on The Bachelor that shocked 167 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: you that was like a behind the scenes experience or 168 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: kind of like tea that you could spill where you're like, oh, like, 169 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: I don't think the every everyday viewer would see this 170 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: or know this about filming. 171 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not sure about like anything that happened while 172 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: I was on set. But immediately following that episode, sadly, 173 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: Jason dumped the girl who he surprised with my concert, 174 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: and so there was this part to me that felt 175 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: slightly responsible. I was like, shoot, should I have played 176 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: a different song, something more romantic? Like obviously I'm joking, 177 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: but that was kind of funny in you know the 178 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: sense that my band and I loved to joke, like, man, dude, 179 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: maybe we should have, like, you know, covered a Marvin 180 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: Gaye song and I like something a little bit more. 181 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: And then hilariously enough, I posted about this like I 182 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: posted a throwback like several years later on Instagram, like 183 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: throwback to when I was on the Bachelor. Too bad. 184 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: The guy actually dumped the girl he surprised with my 185 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: performance after this, and she responded, she like, I didn't 186 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: tag her if they didn't know even you know, what 187 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: her social media was or whatever. Yeah, no, that was 188 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: around when when this came out. It was like, you know, 189 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: such an old school thing, but it was really cute, 190 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: she responded, and she was like, yeah, that was a 191 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: bizarre time, but I loved having a private show for me, 192 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: so it was really sweet. And then I later found 193 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: out she won a season of I think it was 194 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: Bachelor Pad. Oh my gosh, so like redemption for Natalie. Yeah, 195 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: we love to see totally. Yeah, so uh, not necessarily tea, 196 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: but just kind of a funny, you know, a funny 197 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: thing that it is. It's ruthless man like you just 198 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: don't I thought, Oh man, he surprised her with this concert. 199 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: He must really like her, and he was like, sorry, 200 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: not feeling it, not getting Rose. 201 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's crazy, But I like that's a good 202 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 2: behind the scenes mom. 203 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty cute. Yeah, it was cute. 204 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: How did performing on The Bachelor compared to your time 205 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 2: on One Tree Hill? Obviously cameras and obviously it's unscripted, 206 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: but did you feel like you were completely prepared going 207 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: into it? She's like, oh, I've been on set a 208 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: thousand times or was it just completely different? 209 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: It was really different in one very major way. That 210 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: was really cool. So on One Tree Hill, just by definition, 211 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: because of the way the sound works and the way 212 00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: the mixing works, you don't perform most of the music 213 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: live on the show. So I performed I think eleven 214 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: of my songs over four seasons of being on One 215 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: Tree Hill, so tons of different scenes where I'm on 216 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: stage with the band, and most of them, unless it 217 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: was just me alone at a piano or me alone 218 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: with a guitar, almost all of them, you are performing 219 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: that song the same way you would if you were 220 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: filming a music video. So the track is playing, you know, 221 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: in the background, and you are singing along to it, 222 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: but essentially the audio from your voice is not what's 223 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: going to be in the final mix. Of the show, right, 224 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: So it has something to do with just the way 225 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: that they're editing it. This sound. It would be an 226 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: absolute nightmare to try to recreate a full band sound 227 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: on a TV set because it's just not you know, 228 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: creative for that. However, with The Bachelor, this was a 229 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: real stage with a real back line sound system and 230 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: we were playing live like you would on the Tonight 231 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: Show or the Today Show or whatever. And that was 232 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: really cool, also kind of terrifying, because that's you know, 233 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: it's the real thing, and I kind of loved that. 234 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: It was sort of a cool poetic moment to be like, yeah, 235 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: this is reality TV, so we should be playing this 236 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: for real. It should be you know, a one take 237 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: and that's all that's the only chance you get. And 238 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: I love that. I mean, I think both things. It 239 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: makes total sense why for most scripted TV you can't 240 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: necessarily perform a full band song live every time. But 241 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: it's really fun to do that because I do think 242 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: that as a live music lover and fan myself, you know, 243 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: as a musician, it's really fun to get a chance 244 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: to sort of give a raw, one time performance, you know, 245 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: especially for something like that. That's so cool. 246 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: I'm really curious when you auditioned for One Tree Hill. 247 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: Did you go into it knowing it was a musical role. 248 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: Did you have. 249 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: To perform acting in singing to get that role on 250 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: One Tree Hill. 251 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: It's a great question. Yes, it was supposed to be 252 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: for one episode. So I had already signed a record deal. 253 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: I was out on the road in my parents' band 254 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: that they graciously lent to me to Hoe play all 255 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: my first shows with my band, and so I was 256 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: doing the like grassroots indie musician thing and I was 257 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: coming through LA and my manager at the time was like, 258 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: there's this show, One Tree Hill. They feature a lot 259 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: of music, and there's this just this one episode thing 260 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: for this character. But if you get it, you would 261 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: be playing your song, you know. And I was like, cool, 262 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: Like let's go. So I going to get this, Yeah, 263 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm you know, but so I just 264 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: went to the audition and wasn't, you know, expecting to 265 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: even get a callback. And then I got the part, 266 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: and yeah, and at the audition, I had to sing 267 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: a song and then I had to do a scene. 268 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: And you know, I had done like a couple of 269 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: theater things in high school for fun, but I never 270 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: moved to La Anticipated. Oh I'm going to be an actress, 271 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to sign a record deal. That 272 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: was my dream. So yeah, so I get the part 273 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: and then I end up being on the show for 274 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: four seasons and playing eleven of my original songs. My 275 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: character had a different name, her name was Mia, but 276 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: all the songs were Kate Vogel songs. So it was 277 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: this really incredible, unexpected opportunity that you know, really challenged 278 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: me a lot creatively because I had to learn the 279 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, the technical aspects of the craft of acting. 280 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: But it was really fun because it's ultimately, you know, 281 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: like I mentioned before, it's storytelling and that's what songwriting is. 282 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: That's what getting up on stages and so it was, 283 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: uh and that's where I met my bandmate for Your 284 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: Future Ghost. So my my bandmate, Mike Grubbs, came into 285 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: the show in season seven and we became fast friends 286 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: and then years later ended up deciding to collaborate and 287 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: write music together. So it was a really unique, like 288 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: very cool opportunity that I Yeah, it's it's it's crazy 289 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: looking back, how you know, how it all came together. 290 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: That's really cool. 291 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: Do you believe in the. 292 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: Phrase like fake it till you make it? 293 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: Do you feel like that's what you had to do 294 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: with the acting portion of being on one Tree Hill 295 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: and you just had to go in and be like, 296 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: this is such a huge opportunity. 297 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let anybody know. 298 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: That I actually don't have like trained acting skills. 299 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: Did you just fake it till you make it? 300 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: Or were you really proactive about the acting side of things, 301 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: like were you getting lessons? 302 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: How did that work? That's a great question. I think 303 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: in general, yes, I think that you have to act 304 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: as if in certain situations and you have to pull 305 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: from just this idea that you ultimately wouldn't have gotten 306 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: this job or this part or whatever it is if 307 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: you didn't have the capability to do it. I think 308 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: that that's an important part of learning how to do something, 309 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: is believing that you can do it in the first place. 310 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: But I'm also I'm from Ohio. Originally I'm very like 311 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: self deprecating, and so I was not shy about saying, hey, guys, 312 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: this is new for me. If I get in your light, 313 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: you know, in a scene, please tell me. And I 314 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,119 Speaker 1: was really lucky to have co stars who were extremely 315 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: supportive and helpful, so, you know, everything from Hillary Burton 316 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: helping me, you know, when maybe something in a scene 317 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: when I wasn't sure how to you know, kind of 318 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: choreograph walking to this side of the set to the 319 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: next to Sophia Bush, you know, stopping a fan from 320 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: stealing my purse when we were all out, you know. 321 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: And it was a very welcoming experience with the women 322 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: from the show, which was something that I feel like 323 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: looking back, I mean, I'm so grateful for it. But 324 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: it was also a time in you know, the media 325 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: and pop call sure when I feel like women were 326 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: being pitted against each other a lot. You know. It 327 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: was like my first episode on One Tree Hill was 328 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: with Kevin Fetterline. He was like playing the lead singer 329 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: in MIA's band. And this was right when like the 330 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: media was being horrible to Brittany and everybody was you know, 331 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: up in arms about that. So it was really a 332 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: special thing to have that camaraderie and to have that support. 333 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: So I was proactive about saying, this is a job, 334 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: this is a craft. I need to you know, really 335 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: like I need to know what I'm doing. I need 336 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: to be a pro I need to show up and 337 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: know my lines and understand how this works. But also 338 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: I had a lot of support and I am very 339 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: grateful for that. That's so cool. 340 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: And I do think looking back at that time frame 341 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: and when that show was like just poppin', it's like 342 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: it really was a time in the media where women 343 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: were pitted against each other. So that's actually really cool 344 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 2: that you felt that kind of like sisterhood or friendship 345 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: with those women. Yeah, and I think people respect humility, 346 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,239 Speaker 2: you know. I feel like the fact that you were 347 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: coming in there and being like, Okay, I have to 348 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: pretend like I know everything and that I'm totally comfortable 349 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 2: with this, because I think people sometimes feel that way 350 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: and it's maybe it's too much pressure on yourself or 351 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: it can make you seem like you're not open to 352 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: direction and stuff like that. So you probably approached it 353 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: with the perfect the perfect way where you're like, hey, 354 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: I'm doing my best, putting my best foot forward, but 355 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 2: open to communication and just. 356 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: Like being a better cast mate. So that's pretty cool. Yeah, 357 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: that I totally agree. I think it's important to be 358 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: honest about where you're at creatively because everybody's been there, 359 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: right everybody had their first job, everybody had their first 360 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: show where they were terrified up there. You know, most 361 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: people I think who perform or do anything in front 362 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: of the camera for a living have some degree of 363 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: stage right. So it's you know, like a lot of 364 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: us are like weird introverted artists. Like getting up in 365 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: front of people and entertaining everyone is not like I 366 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: never set out to be the center of attention, but 367 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: that ends up being, you know, part of the job. 368 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, I think that a mixture of 369 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: sort of saying, hey, I'm taking this seriously and I'm 370 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: working really hard and I so appreciate your help, but 371 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: also I might need help and I'm not you know, 372 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I don't know one hundred percent what 373 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm doing yet. Is that goes a long way, I think. 374 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I do you feel like there was any 375 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: degree of that on The Bachelor? I mean it's a 376 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: different type of performance, but it's a type of that's 377 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: a skill to be able to entertain an audience and 378 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 1: be yourself in front of a camera on an unscripted show. Like, 379 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: did that take some getting used to it? 380 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: I had a really hard time, Uh, I struggled with it. 381 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: I was very uncomfortable, just like I wasn't. I'm not 382 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: uncomfortable to let my guard down around people or in dating. 383 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: Like I think I'm such an open book online. I'm 384 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: just totally comfortable people ask me questions about my personal life. 385 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: For the most part, I'm pretty comfortable to share my 386 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 2: feelings or thoughts like perspective. But something about having to 387 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 2: like act natural with cameras on me, it just never 388 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: felt natural. I don't think I ever got used to it. 389 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: The only time I think maybe I did get used 390 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: to it was after I was completely off the season 391 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 2: and I was with the guy from the show, and 392 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: we came back for like a segment on a future 393 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: show that actually never even aired, and it was the 394 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: only time that I truly forgot that the cameras were there. 395 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's because it was no 396 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 2: longer about me, Like we were there to talk to, 397 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 2: you know, other people that are being featured on the show, 398 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: so we were kind of just like secondary characters, I 399 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: guess you would say. And that was the only time 400 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: I actually felt comfortable. And maybe it's because there wasn't 401 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: pressure or like pressure to to feel anything or to 402 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: say the right thing, like you were just I was 403 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: just there, And maybe that's maybe that's a good indicator 404 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: of how it felt being on the show, because I 405 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 2: think there is a pressure to like you, you want 406 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: to fall in love and you want this to work 407 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 2: it out, and even though any one's specifically pressuring you, 408 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: you kind of feel pressure yourself. So I don't think 409 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: I really got used to it when I was a 410 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: contestant on the show. It just always felt a little 411 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 2: bit unnatural to me. 412 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: But that's charming to hear though, like as a you 413 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I think that that probably 414 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: is something that vulnerability is something that an audience can 415 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: relate to. So even though for you it's like you 416 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: wish it was a little bit more comfortable, to me, 417 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's so charming because I think everybody, yeah, 418 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: and I think everybody feels that way because it's it's 419 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: awkward enough trying to find love without cameras in your face. 420 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: So I think that's part of it's weird. That's kind 421 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: of part of the appeal, is that you know, people 422 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: are just they're just being themselves and they're trying to 423 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: not think about the camera right. It's an interesting like 424 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: dichotomy there. It is so cool. It is interesting. 425 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 2: Okay, before I let you go, I wanted to ask 426 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: you about your new single. It's called The Only One, 427 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: Is that right? And it just came out in May. 428 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 2: Can you tell us about the songwriting process and what 429 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: you're excited for people to hear when they listen to it. 430 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I'm so excited about this song. So this 431 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: is one of our like this is the love song, 432 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: so it's kind of perfect for this conversation about the 433 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: bachelor and finding love. Like the Only One is really 434 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 1: about just that feeling when you find somebody and you 435 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: just get this magical sort of spark and you know, 436 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: the chorus lines are I want to sleep in your 437 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: T shirt, I want to sing through your speakers, And 438 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: it's like just that sweet feeling of like finding somebody 439 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: who just like opens up these different sort of galaxies 440 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: for you. And it was really fun to write because 441 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: you know, we have a lot of music that's just 442 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: really fun, Like our record is this these big guitars, 443 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: this indie synth pop. It's kind of like a lot 444 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: of the theme is sort of about like finding the 445 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: fun and the party and like a refuge in the 446 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: chaos of like a world that feels very post apocalyptics sometimes, 447 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: and we really wanted to just make an album that 448 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: you could like jump up and down on your bed 449 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: and sing with your friends, you know, And this song 450 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: it's still that, but it's like this is the really 451 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: kind of you know, bringing a little bit of our 452 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: emo pasted into it. This like, you know, emotional love 453 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: song just about the magic of finding that person who 454 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's a first date and you're just 455 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: like majorly crushing on this person, or whether it's you know, 456 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: someone you've been with. I've been married to my husband 457 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: for almost twelve years, you know, and so it's like 458 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: that feeling kind of is something everybody can relate to, 459 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: whether it's all across the board. So it's one of 460 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: my favorite songs. It's very like galactic, like the sounds 461 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: and stuff are really sort of floaty, and it's very 462 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: singable and fun. So I'm really excited for people to 463 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: hear it. It's been really cool to hear their sponts 464 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: so far. That's so cool. 465 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: I love the way you described even the sounds in it. 466 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 2: I'm really I'm really happy for you guys, it sounds awesome. 467 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 2: Where can everyone find you and where can they listen 468 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: to your music? 469 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, so they can find me on any social 470 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: media platform. I'm at Kate Vogel and your Future Ghost 471 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: is on every platform as well. We're on Spotify, We're 472 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: on Apple Music, We're on anywhere you can think of. 473 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: And I would love to hear people's feedback on the 474 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: songs and would love to just see everybody at the 475 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: shows when we start touring. We're we're hoping to sort 476 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: of get all of that stuff worked out soon, but 477 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: we're dropping our debut album this summer, so I have 478 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: a lot we have a lot of new music coming 479 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: soon that I cannot wait for everybody to hear. So 480 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: definitely hop over and say hi on Instagram, TikTok, anywhere. 481 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: I would love to. I love I love hearing like 482 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: sharing our music with new fans and stuff too. So 483 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: it's if you saw me on The Bachelor way back 484 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, hopefully you'll be excited about 485 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: this this new stuff. It's it's I'm really proud of it, 486 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: like just beyond excited about it. It's so cool. 487 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to come watch when you guys go 488 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 2: on tour. I'm in La too, but you guys have 489 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 2: a show there or somewhere close by. 490 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely, when we have a show in La, 491 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: I'll yeah, I'll absolutely be sure to let you know 492 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: when we're coming through. It's going to be a lot 493 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: of fun. I love that. 494 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for joining us on Beyond 495 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: the Bachelor, and thank you guys for listening. 496 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Follow the Ben and Ashley 497 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: I Almost Famous podcast on iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you 498 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: listen to podcasts.