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Speaker 1: Oh. Yeah, we're packed in, we're holding, we're smiling, we're living,

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Speaker 1: March tenth, twenty twenty five, a couple of days after

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Speaker 1: UFC three one three, we're gonna break it all down

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Speaker 1: for you. My name is Brian Campbell, your co host

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Speaker 1: with the most Yeah. All right, how about that that

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Speaker 1: it's Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 3: Can you hear me? Sorry, I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: It works today, It works today. Boy, I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 4: Taking three dumps on a train as Wow.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Luke, we've got I would have to say, we've

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Speaker 3: We have a lot to get to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna break down the pay per view. We're

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Speaker 1: how was your subway ride in this morning? Look?

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Speaker 4: Was really, but you had two key with you last time?

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Speaker 1: We want to welcome you into this episode of Morning Combat,

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Speaker 4: It's Long Island Luke No c of the main card minute.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, what's up?

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Speaker 5: Boys? Great intros always, how we doing well?

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Speaker 1: We're doing good. How about you after that mid pay

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Speaker 4: When was the last time you were truly happy?

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Speaker 1: It went down. Did you enjoy it? That's up to

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Speaker 1: So Luke after magamt and Calive went oer for twelve

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Speaker 1: First team, all Donk people got on, honest, they got mad.

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Speaker 3: Or even the argument that we had made quite quite incorrectly.

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Speaker 3: That simply did not materialize, at least not in this case.

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Speaker 1: It was surprising, let's be honest. I did think he

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Speaker 3: That seems like a bridge too far. It's too much

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Speaker 3: Effort, no doubt about it. The one thing I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: what I mean? Dude on Caliath didn't get any of

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Speaker 1: People are saying, well, Ankli approved, he's not actually a

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Speaker 4: We didn't really see that guy outside.

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Speaker 1: Is that because of that constant threat of the takedown,

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Speaker 3: I think on Calia have played the distance game well.

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Speaker 1: Were, so him on the back foot. He got criticized

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Speaker 3: I I don't. I didn't read that he was exhausted.

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Speaker 1: You rally in round five trying to defend your belt

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Speaker 4: But I do think from rounds two through four we saw.

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Speaker 3: What I'm trying to make is if you disassemble the

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Speaker 3: You can make a case for one three to five.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I'm interested to get the third opinion here

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Speaker 3: Good, drilling him off of his own balance, like popping

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Speaker 1: It was. It was incredible. Let's talk about the scoring

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Speaker 4: And Eliath knew which realize what Poeton does.

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Speaker 3: It's two competing exactly.

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Speaker 1: that unclelive, like I said, the rounds he won won

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Speaker 1: them more dominantly won, the story of the fight, won

436
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Speaker 1: all that stuff. But what about round by round? So

437
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Speaker 1: first round we're giving it to Pereira, second round best

438
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Speaker 1: ankle Ive we've ever seen, but third round is the

439
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Speaker 1: swing and all three judges would ultimately score that four Ankliath.

440
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Speaker 1: But I felt like, and maybe we can say, don't

441
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Speaker 1: trust the stats on the screen, but in that round

442
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Speaker 1: three Poeton outstruck him, landed.

443
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Speaker 4: I thought was the.

444
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Speaker 1: Best strike of the round when he had ankle live

445
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Speaker 1: against the fence and he landed that lead overhand and

446
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 1: chipped him up to you know, tore him.

447
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Speaker 4: Up to the legs.

448
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Speaker 1: It was really the last round that he effectively was

449
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Speaker 1: tearing up anklive to the calf. Where you're like, I

450
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Speaker 1: wonder if this is gonna be a problem late. Is

451
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Speaker 1: there a strong argument? Because if we're all saying he

452
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Speaker 1: won one rounds one and five, so all the motto

453
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Speaker 1: is not and we'll get into that in a second,

454
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Speaker 1: but that round three, you've watched it a million times.

455
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Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like Poeton not sign the

456
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Speaker 1: story Chuck was right, the stories about stories about Pooton.

457
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Speaker 1: I feel like you could give him that. And if

458
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Speaker 1: you do, isn't that three to two Carrera?

459
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Speaker 3: If you give him round three, it is certainly three two.

460
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Speaker 3: It would have been at least on two of the judges' scorecards, right,

461
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Speaker 3: he would have been still would have been split.

462
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Speaker 1: That would have been a shitty result, by the way,

463
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Speaker 1: because we all saw who the better fighter was. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 1: but this isn't the perfect scoring system.

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Speaker 3: I guess I understand. I don't think you can make

466
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Speaker 3: a I don't How did you score it Long Island, Luke,

467
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Speaker 3: How did you score the main event?

468
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Speaker 7: Well?

469
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Speaker 6: I had a bet on Uncle Live, so I was

470
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Speaker 6: rooting for him, but I did actually score it three

471
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Speaker 6: to two Poton.

472
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Speaker 3: Okay, give me the argument, but not BC's give me

473
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Speaker 3: your argument for White Poeton one round three, and obviously,

474
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Speaker 3: please understand, I know it is butt close.

475
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Speaker 6: You also have to remember I'm very intoxicated by the

476
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Speaker 6: time this fight comes on, so to remember specifically as

477
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Speaker 6: much honest, I just remember going into round five. I

478
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Speaker 6: clearly said it's two to two going into round five,

479
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Speaker 6: and I thought Poeton clearly won round five.

480
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Speaker 1: Okay, Like I said, I was afraid for Ankliav that

481
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Speaker 1: he put forth this great performance and he was gonna

482
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Speaker 1: lose three to two under that under the scoring setup,

483
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Speaker 1: for better or for worse, because you know that they're

484
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Speaker 1: not going to give him a ton of credit even

485
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Speaker 1: around four, because he didn't take him down. It's just

486
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Speaker 1: sort of cage control. I wondered if all that could

487
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Speaker 1: go against him. And then when Achlive, like I said,

488
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Speaker 1: opened up round five safe and almost pedestrian rather than

489
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Speaker 1: pushing that pace, I was worried. We do have the

490
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Speaker 1: judge of scorecards, and this does set up before we

491
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Speaker 1: throw to them a good opportunity to I don't know,

492
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Speaker 1: maybe fire some shots. How about we get into our

493
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Speaker 1: segment here, shots fired brought to you by Quervo. He

494
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Speaker 1: doesn't have the best reputation in these MMA scoring circles.

495
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Speaker 1: Judge veteran judge Saldamato, can we show these score cards

496
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Speaker 1: here so you see the judges Mike Bell and Dereck

497
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Speaker 1: clearly the first two starting from the left, three rounds

498
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Speaker 1: to two in favor of an Kalaiev, with round three

499
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Speaker 1: being that swing round. In fact, all three judges scored

500
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Speaker 1: it for on calieve in there, so you can I

501
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Speaker 1: can't argue that too much in the favor of Pereira.

502
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Speaker 1: But Luke, let's look at Saldamato's card rounds two through

503
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Speaker 1: five going to Ankliev. These are the judges. These are

504
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Speaker 1: the guys reading the rule book. These are the guys

505
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Speaker 1: with a way better seat than I have, and they're

506
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Speaker 1: not tweeting and trying to, you know, text people back

507
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Speaker 1: like I am between rounds. Is there any case here

508
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Speaker 1: for Saldemato to be correct that this was a four

509
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Speaker 1: rounds to one fight.

510
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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so. I again, numerically,

511
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Speaker 3: Magavon Unclia have had more strikes twenty to fourteen. However,

512
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Speaker 3: with that one twenty two of control time, those were

513
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Speaker 3: often in the clinch. And I want to say something

514
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Speaker 3: people say on Caliev was just holding Pereira against the fence,

515
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Speaker 3: and there are certainly one billion percent true examples of it,

516
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Speaker 3: including in this round. I think it's overstated. For round four,

517
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Speaker 3: I really think people are grossly over selling some of

518
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Speaker 3: the key components. But as it relates to round five,

519
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 3: that numerical total is really deceiving BC because so much

520
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 3: of it came from busy work there. I will also add, though,

521
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Speaker 3: if you're Poeton, takedown defence is not merely stopping the

522
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Speaker 3: takedown but extricating your back off of the fence, which

523
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Speaker 3: he simply had a very hard time doing against an

524
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Speaker 3: opponent like this. And I'm also gonna say something else

525
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Speaker 3: every time that I argue on this show on my

526
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Speaker 3: personal channel anywhere that referees in MMA need to be

527
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Speaker 3: granted license to foster quicker action. People always say no,

528
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Speaker 3: we can't touch it, No, no, no, you have to

529
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Speaker 3: save the integrity of the sport. There should be no

530
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Speaker 3: stand ups. There should be no intervention. Guys, you can't

531
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Speaker 3: have it both ways. Either people holding someone else against

532
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Speaker 3: the fence and not doing anything is basically slow stalling,

533
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 3: or it's not. Either it's a problem you want to solve,

534
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Speaker 3: or it's not. If you have argued against more proactive

535
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 3: referee intervention, you simply have no license to cry about this.

536
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Speaker 3: And I know what they're going to say, Well, the

537
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: judges should still render a decision that is favorable to

538
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Speaker 3: the guy what getting pressed up against the fence. That

539
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 3: also doesn't even make any sense. They're also not doing anything,

540
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: so at best it's kind of nullified and you're sort

541
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Speaker 3: of left to judge the other pieces. We need to

542
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Speaker 3: empower the rule makers and the rule enforcers to promote

543
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Speaker 3: better action in the sport. This is one clear example

544
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Speaker 3: in round five and then again part of round four

545
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Speaker 3: there was one separation that Mark God went through, which

546
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Speaker 3: by the way, I was totally in favor of. Sure

547
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 3: that gets you to situations like this. People need to

548
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Speaker 3: consistently understand how their worldviews about MMA impacts the rules,

549
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Speaker 3: impact the rule enforcers. This this is a bit of

550
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 3: a wake up call for all the Poton fans being like, oh,

551
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Speaker 3: this was so unfair. Are you the guy that has

552
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: argued for quicker separations. Probably not.

553
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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the leather of the law and judging,

554
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Speaker 1: because I think you pointed out something which is true

555
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: Poton stuffs twelve takedowns, But in MMA scoring you're not

556
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Speaker 1: going to score the defense on there, so his reward

557
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: is not being on his back but on the flip side.

558
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Speaker 1: Do you then reward an Kalia for that constant pressure

559
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Speaker 1: of takedowns in some of these close rounds. I guess

560
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Speaker 1: if the striking is more ultimately equal, then that could

561
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Speaker 1: be the thing that gives you the.

562
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Speaker 3: Edge image only if the damage is equal.

563
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Speaker 1: Only if the damage was equal. I just felt like,

564
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Speaker 1: letter to the law of round by round scoring, this

565
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: was a closer fight than it looked with our eyes

566
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Speaker 1: straight up, no question about it.

567
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but even then, even for somebody like me

568
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Speaker 3: who thinks that Uncle Ive is probably the rightful winner,

569
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Speaker 3: round five is not a strong argument for anklive. But

570
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Speaker 3: also because the commission won't ever tell us why anybody

571
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 3: scores any round the way that they do, OK, we're

572
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Speaker 3: left to wonder what exactly he saw that he spotlt

573
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Speaker 3: as something important.

574
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Speaker 1: Then I gotta ask you, what did all three judges

575
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Speaker 1: see in round three giving that to calia I'll swing round.

576
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 3: I have a theory about that. So I watched it

577
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 3: multiple times and I'm like judging, okay, who won each minute,

578
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Speaker 3: which I know is not how it's done, and I'm

579
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Speaker 3: just trying to like quantify, and it kind of went

580
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 3: back and forth and went back and forth. And then

581
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Speaker 3: if you'll notice, what's the last big strike either one

582
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: of them lands in that round?

583
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Speaker 1: Alift jab?

584
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 3: It was on Caliav's jab. It was a heavy jab

585
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: that popped his head back and it didn't rock on

586
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 3: a poeton, but it did cause him to have to

587
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Speaker 3: catch his balance. And I think I counted it was

588
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Speaker 3: only like forty five seconds left in the fight or

589
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Speaker 3: me the round, and it was on Callive who was

590
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Speaker 3: still on top of him, pushing, pushing, pushing. I have

591
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: a feeling that that probably the guys that the judges

592
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Speaker 3: were looking at it, being like this is close, this

593
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: is close, and that one strike again, I can only

594
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Speaker 3: imagine because they don't talk to the public, but just

595
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Speaker 3: having heard them explain decisions in other ways, because I've

596
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Speaker 3: been on some of these referee calls where they have

597
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Speaker 3: to like watch rounds and explain how they score it.

598
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Speaker 3: I have a feeling that played a pretty decisive factor

599
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 3: in how it ultimately went to on Calia's way. Hope,

600
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: by the slimmest of margins, hopefully.

601
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Speaker 1: Sell the model will show up on Henry Shudo's podcast

602
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: to break it down. That would be really nice. Let's

603
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: hear from the fighters here. Let's go to Ankalia first.

604
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: Let her be on the list. There, Long Island Luke.

605
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Speaker 1: This is him saying ultimately that not only did he win,

606
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Speaker 1: but that Poton's a runner.

607
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Speaker 4: Let's listen in got.

608
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Speaker 8: Some tight rounds to score as well. All three judges

609
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 8: had you winning two, three and four man at the

610
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Speaker 8: end of five rounds. How confident did you feel that

611
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Speaker 8: you had won the fight?

612
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it was I was confident. I kept on.

613
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Speaker 9: Moving forward, I kept a pressure in him, and he

614
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 9: kept on running away from me. You know, for twenty minutes,

615
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 9: this guy was running away from me. And then I

616
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 9: heard at the end of the fight he was saying that,

617
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Speaker 9: you know, he wasn't sure why the victory was given

618
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Speaker 9: to me. Who's supposed to be given the victory.

619
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Speaker 1: You know, I've been pressuring in the entire time.

620
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Speaker 9: He was running for twenty minutes, and then he's wondering

621
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Speaker 9: who's supposed to get the victory. Listen, I'm happy for

622
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 9: a rematch if he wants her rematch. But then maybe

623
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Speaker 9: in the rematch he could fight, not just run away.

624
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 8: An entire time data And he said he's not sure,

625
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 8: but a rematch probably makes sense given it was clause

626
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Speaker 8: I mean, is that the fight you want the most?

627
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Speaker 3: And if so, how soon would you like to do it?

628
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Speaker 9: Yes, I never picked my opponent, so I'm very much

629
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 9: happy and ready for a rematch whenever year see off

630
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 9: is it to us?

631
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Speaker 10: If you know, we'll we'll see what the data is.

632
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: We'll we'll be happy to accept it that I know.

633
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: He's going with big ONC energy now. I like heal ONK.

634
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: I like when he was like, yeah, John Jones, I'd

635
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: beat him in his prime. And also John Jones is

636
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: a steroid cheater. He pulled that one out. What do

637
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: you make though of the comment about the running. I

638
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: don't I don't see that per se you got you.

639
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: He had him on the back foot. That's a big

640
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: part of why ankle I have got the win. He's

641
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: sc look on, Clive was the better fighter in this fight.

642
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: But to say Pereira ran away from him for twenty minutes,

643
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: I didn't see that.

644
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, running is a strong way of putting it. But

645
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 3: if you're on Colive and you're walking the guy down

646
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: and he's trying to use lateral movement to get away

647
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: into fend takedowns, I can see why he would think

648
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: you're not engaging with me. I can see how we

649
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: think that. Of course, the reality is he doesn't have

650
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: to engage with you on your terms. He has to

651
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: get He wants to, at a bare minimum, engage with

652
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: him on his terms, and he simply didn't get a

653
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 3: shot to do that.

654
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: I thought in round two, when en Calive was walked,

655
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: literally walking down Pereira, that he was going to walk

656
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: into something massive. Credit to him for not, you know,

657
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: for for always having that defensive posture still there. The

658
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: technique was strong, But did you have that feeling too.

659
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're gonna get what everybody else got. You're

660
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: walking into traffic. You're too confident in there. He knew though,

661
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: he could tell that the pressure was getting to Perra.

662
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: But I was a little diverse for him in round two. There.

663
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: I will tell you what, man, I knew something was

664
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: up in that second round when he hit Poeton with

665
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: that push kick that sent him like careening into the

666
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: back of the fence. I was like, holy shit, that

667
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: was awesome. I too thought that that was you know,

668
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: I didn't know if he was gonna get knocked out,

669
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: but I thought at some point the wheels were going

670
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: to come off. Dude, we got to say what we

671
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: were wrong on Friday. We were wrong about on Calive.

672
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: But let me ask you a question if I may,

673
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: and I would love to get a long on luksipining

674
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: here just a second as well, which is did this

675
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: win by on Caliev erase your doubts about him? Not

676
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: so much as a talented guy, which we kind of

677
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: thought he was, but as a donk. Does this erase

678
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: Don Caliah from you?

679
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: Yes? I regret Don caliv as a name first teamal donks.

680
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 4: He's shown to be a mistake prone fighter at times.

681
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: You can question his fight I cic we have at times,

682
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: including the end of that Blokhovich fight, and look I

683
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: questioned it watching this fight in real time. About again

684
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: about round five when he didn't come out with that

685
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: same posture and pressure that was swallowing Pereira up in

686
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: round four, But in totality five round championship stamina was

687
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: the better fighter, made the better adjustments, took a killer,

688
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: a superman and made him look human. Yeah, I take

689
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: back everything I said Uncliav when finally given the chance,

690
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: and I did believe like you that UFC was delaying

691
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: this for as long as possible. Dude, he came through

692
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: and he got it done. At the end of the day,

693
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: like shout out to him, what is he on a

694
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: fourteen fight on beaten streak something like that? Since that

695
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: Austin's UFC debut. Yes, it hasn't always been pretty. He

696
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: hasn't always been as maybe as you know, come forward

697
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: as we'd like a lot of things you can say

698
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: about there, but he was the better fighter in every

699
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: single category against the guy who was number three pound

700
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: for pound on my list. Yeah, I take back everything

701
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: I ever questioned on this guy in that.

702
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: Regard Long Island, Luke, have you gotten rid of all

703
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: of your suspicions about him?

704
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I wasn't the one tooting the donk horn

705
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 5: like you guys were.

706
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 6: Say, but uh no, he looked good, dude. I don't

707
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 6: think we can call him a donk after that performance.

708
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean he I was okay. So let

709
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: me let me challenge that a little bit. I'm not

710
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: fully ready to let go of the fact that the

711
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: guy has proven to be air prone in the past,

712
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: but I have to dial it way back because that

713
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: was twenty five minutes against a very dangerous guy, and

714
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: he did not look dangerous. Poeton did. Through twenty five minutes.

715
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: He looked, you know, talented, but not.

716
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: Here's why I still thought he didn't look I didn't

717
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: think he looked boring. And that's still I know a

718
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: lot of people, Yeah, in this fight, was it a

719
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: back and forth fight? No, But ankle Ive believes there's

720
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: a reason for that. So let's listen to sound and

721
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: when we can respond to it. This is Anklive talking

722
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: about that idea of whether he's a boring fighter.

723
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 10: You know, I don't understand why people think that my

724
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 10: fights are boring. Everybody thought that Alex Pereira coming into

725
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 10: this fight was the most exciting striker in the division,

726
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 10: and then you saw the way he fought against me.

727
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 10: It seems as though when people come out to fight

728
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 10: against me, they all of a sudden become boring. You

729
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 10: saw what he did, so it's not just dependent on me.

730
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 10: It also depends on the dance partner, on the opponent

731
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 10: that I'm fighting.

732
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: That's fair. I mean, he was the one backing him

733
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: up in round two and putting it on him. He's

734
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: not the most exciting fighter, but I don't call his

735
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: performance or even his strategy necessarily boring.

736
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: People were bitter.

737
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: There's an overarching conversation that we're going to have a

738
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: minute about are the too many boring champions in UF seen.

739
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: I understand that you're going to have to include him

740
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: in this batch, but was this performance boring out of him?

741
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: He brought the fight to the most dangerous man.

742
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: I wasn't watching live, so I don't know how it

743
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: translated live. I did not. I did not think it

744
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: was especially exciting.

745
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: I guess there's a difference between technical where his goal

746
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: is to disarm you of your danger and outright boring.

747
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: Same thing in boxing. I like, I don't call a

748
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: lot of these Floyd Mayweather fights boring. I say, you

749
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: should know what you're getting into. A lot of people

750
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: at the highest level you know you're watching one of

751
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: the greatest defensive fighters of all time. Be brilliant. It might,

752
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's boring. I think there is

753
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: a difference there, that's all.

754
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 5: Would you say it was a technical thriller.

755
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: No, there was, There was not the same. There wasn't

756
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: the thriller element. The thriller element is usually a higher

757
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: pace and a little bit more of a back and

758
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: forth and not sure who's gonna win. Now, granted you did,

759
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: you weren't fully sure when they went to the cards here,

760
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: so there was a little bit. But no, this wasn't

761
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: the technical thriller that Strickland DDP one was. Okay, uh,

762
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: that's that still stands. I do want to hear though,

763
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: from Poeton here, who was humble and defeated and came

764
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: out on Instagram and shared his thoughts.

765
00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 7: I say that's all it was. Marcus Man come simplest

766
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Speaker 7: visits comunic por little bay Man, I got this. Carrie

767
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Speaker 7: went in the science to make ge Grant sin Jivo

768
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 7: and from me and Chimi, you know spiios Ky a

769
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 7: little movie from Man the Key, Yeah, spedious pizza, Yeah, yes,

770
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Speaker 7: man d seg They got to the to the Mundo

771
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 7: man they got me, yeah, h I said, yeah, I

772
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 7: just thought it was poils us.

773
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: No, whit better is.

774
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, is disaster.

775
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: The silis Shama trauma.

776
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 3: Indeed, I always believe in giving up on your dreams.

777
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: So he was humble and defeat. You know, it was

778
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: not humble in the his ex fiance Merle who came

779
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: out and pulled a Katie Beevill. I'm not going to

780
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: show it and play this up, but did you see

781
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: that that was some salty solid Yeah.

782
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: I don't know who these people are, but you know

783
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: all of them need to get alive.

784
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Okay, okay. He mentioned the rematch in there. Dana White

785
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: mentioned the rematch in there. It will be different. Well,

786
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: we see though Poeton who takes more chances offensively.

787
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: I think he will.

788
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 5: I think he.

789
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have to, and in part, I

790
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 3: think he's going to be very comforted by how good

791
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: his takedown defense was here. And the what I want

792
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: to make is if I were him, I'd open up

793
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 3: a little bit more. And maybe you do surrender a takedown, right,

794
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: maybe you do, But the reality is, I don't know

795
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: if cale I is gonna finish you might be able

796
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: to get back up, and at least if you're in

797
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: a fight where you're more open like that, your left

798
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: hook is going to cause him problems, have him thinking

799
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: about what he's going to do when he gets too close,

800
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: and all the problems that emerged, like it just never

801
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: seemed to me, like on Cale, I have never seemed

802
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: to me overly concerned about anything Poe Toon was going

803
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: to do to him point and that has to change.

804
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 3: That has to change, not just for psychological reasons, but strategically.

805
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: You need to get that guy thinking and doubting and.

806
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: Wondering, huh more threat of highkings.

807
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: My kicks were great, which, by the way, you obviously

808
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: an open stance is a thing that you can do

809
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: a lot of. I think he was probably worried about

810
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: the taked down a little bit. He did throw some.

811
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: He did throw some, But I mean, do you get

812
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: on that bandwagon of people saying he may be Daugistani,

813
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: he may be our champion, but he just proved he

814
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: can't wrestle on the level of everybody else.

815
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 3: He can't wrestle on the level of like he he's funny,

816
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 3: but he's a bet.

817
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: But he showed he's a better striker than we thought.

818
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: Totally true. Yeah, totally true. And also I don't think

819
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: that's the sum total of his wrestling. I think he

820
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: felt stiff resistance when he first went for the takedown

821
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 3: got stopped. He was like, Okay, I'm not gonna waste energy.

822
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: You're just trying to wrestle this guy to the match.

823
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 3: So there's a part of that too. But the reality

824
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: is this, he's not Islam Makachev. He's not a guy

825
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 3: like Islam Makachev is the you know, the panth pound

826
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: best guy in the sport. He can strike, he can submit,

827
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: he can wrestle. He's got ridiculous takedowns. That's not on Caliav. However,

828
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: on Caliev did seem to benefit from the same kind

829
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: of threats that Makachev was able to make against a

830
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: guy like Poorier, where you watch Makachev just having the

831
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: success with Poorier, like, how's that possible? Well, in part,

832
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: Makachev can strike like that, he's not Habib. But the

833
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: other part is, of course, if you're just Poarier, you

834
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 3: gotta be real careful against a guy like that who

835
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: can level change. It's a similar dynamic to that. I

836
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 3: just don't think it's fair to be like, oh, Uncleliav

837
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 3: is just a two oh five Makachev. No, no, he's not.

838
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: Very few people are any version of what Mankachev is.

839
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: Final note on on topic one here in this fight

840
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: and the potential of a rematch, which I think is

841
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: the right direction given the run Potons down by the way,

842
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: it's down, and and I do believe that I'll blame

843
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: Elon for that, by the way, but I do he

844
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: took it. He took a chainsaw to it. Yeah, no doubt.

845
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: But I will say that in regards to this rematch,

846
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: I actually believe and I always believe it in situations

847
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: like this unless you were absolutely starched and knocked out

848
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: where we're questioning your future. I think Poton and redeem

849
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: most of the buzz, the star power, that anything that

850
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: you thought he lost here and he lost something, he

851
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: lost something, there's some glitter, there's some buzz and shine

852
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: that came off. I think he can get it back

853
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: by winning the rematch. Long aand Lucas convinced this doesn't

854
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: really affect him at all. How do you how do

855
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: you deal with that? With that idea in terms of

856
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: his critical stock and I guess you mixed up with

857
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: the commercial overall, the aura of Chama and this incredible athlete. Yes,

858
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: he took a step back, but he can he can

859
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: get that back in a rematch.

860
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: For starters, he can definitely get it back. That's one. Two.

861
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: It wasn't like he got whooped. You know, this was

862
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: not an ass kicking. This was a close fight. The

863
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: problem was Poton just didn't look like himself. It'd be

864
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 3: one thing if Poton looked like for example, Poton got

865
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: iced by Izzy, but he was fighting like Poton before

866
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: he got iced, Right, this one felt like it was

867
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: Poton's twin who got subbed in there, and it fought

868
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: kind of like him, looked kind of like but not

869
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: exactly like him, was it? It felt like an uncharacteristic performance.

870
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: So that certainly hurts his stock. Losing the belt certainly

871
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: hurts his stock. But I'll say this, if they book

872
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: a rematch, you're in great shape. And if he wins

873
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 3: that rematch, you are right back where you left off

874
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: and you're off to the races as the Again, we

875
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: said that last week Poton called himself the face of

876
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 3: the UFC. I still think that's probably still true. Today.

877
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: Whether he can maintain that without a belt or by

878
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: losing a rematch, that's a separate question that.

879
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: Would be that'd be a whole new reset. Might be

880
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: time for heavyweight right away. But let's get into topic two,

881
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: which addresses a few different things. If we're going to

882
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: talk about the good of an Kalaiev, I'm glad we

883
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: did that in topic one, But if you take MMA

884
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: Twitter as any point of reference, this didn't feel like

885
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: a great night overall for the UFC. A bit of

886
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: a mid pay per view card that I didn't think

887
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: was all that deep. Yes, some topics we'll get into.

888
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: The fighting nerds continue to win us over in so

889
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: many ways, But did this this fight card expose larger

890
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: issues with the UFC that a lot of us have

891
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: been pointing out, maybe sometimes to pissing off the hardcore fans. Luke,

892
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: we're talking about does Dana White have a star problem?

893
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: And do you add to that the idea of too

894
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: many boring champions? Even though I just said I wasn't

895
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: bored by Uncle Ive's performance, a lot of people are

896
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: gonna lump him into that category. So, Luke, the idea

897
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: of UFC lacking top end marketable stars is not a

898
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: new discussion.

899
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 4: We've been through that a lot.

900
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: It's probably a byproduct of their content provider mentality that

901
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: they're riding these days. But considering the most exciting fighter

902
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: an active champion in the sport just lost his title

903
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: to a wrestler named Magamed, is it fair to say

904
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: that UFC is in fact lacking mightily in mainstream stars

905
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: at the moment and that the promotion doesn't have too

906
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: many boring champions, Which I hate saying that word, but

907
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: is it true right now? In totality? Do we have,

908
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: if that's a bad thing, too many foreign guys that

909
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: only wrestle. Is that where we're at right now? Did

910
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: this expose that?

911
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 3: Well, let's go through let's answer all right? So I

912
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: think there are two ways that you have to answer

913
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 3: the question. One is are they popular? That's one? And

914
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 3: then two do they have an action oriented style? Because

915
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: you can either be both or one or the other

916
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: or none of them? Right? Think about that, all right?

917
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: Pantojia clearly has an action oriented style but is basically

918
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 3: unknown to anybody but the hardcore fans. So there you go.

919
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: Then you got Morob. Morob has something of an action

920
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: oriented style, but is definitely not a finisher, and I

921
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 3: think has a stalling problem. And I think certainly is

922
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 3: an extremely good fighter, but is not a beloved fighter

923
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: at the box office. I don't think that that may

924
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: not be right. It had to Poria and now we're

925
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 3: back to Vulk and Diego Lopez. I don't know how

926
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: to answer that question because I don't really know what's

927
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: going to happen there, but certainly losing him at forty

928
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: five is not great for forty five. I think we

929
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 3: can all agree there fifty five. I think there's plenty

930
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: of good things at fifty five. And Islam Makachev. People

931
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: say he's not really popular. I don't believe that. I

932
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: do think he's actually pretty popular. Yeah, exactly. And also

933
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 3: he's the pound for pound best guy in the sport.

934
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 3: He's fucking awesome.

935
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 4: He's got the habibrub more.

936
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: He's more powerful as a pay per view brand than

937
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: people will really let onto Oka fair.

938
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: So we've got Pantoja has a bit of an issue.

939
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: You've got Morob is a bit of an issue. I

940
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 3: have forty five. It's neither here nor there at the moment.

941
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 3: Fifty five not at all problem. I don't think seventy

942
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 3: You've got Bulall.

943
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: And who we love, but isn't not like a house Okay, but.

944
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 3: I'm talking about just Champions of the Company Bullall Again,

945
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: I have a lot of respect for Bulall's game. I

946
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 3: also should note the UFC did the right thing and

947
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 3: put the Palestine flag in his online profile, which I

948
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: think is a great thing. I applaud the organization for that.

949
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: But we're just talking about is he exciting for the fans.

950
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: Fans don't seem to feel that way. And is he

951
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 3: a box office draw? Certainly not. Then you go to

952
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: eighty five, different story and by the way, if they

953
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: get Hamzat, you're in a very different story. So I

954
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: don't think that necessarily qualifies two oh five.

955
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 4: Indeedp's coming on, He's coming on right.

956
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, But two oh five again, if if

957
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 3: Pereira gets back there, different conversation. But right now on Calive,

958
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 3: good fighter, definitely not a box office straw. And then

959
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: at heavyweight, I don't know, I don't know what the

960
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 3: fuck to say. One of the worst divisions to go

961
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 3: the women's side. So at straway you got John Wiley,

962
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: who I think certainly is well liked. I don't know

963
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: how popular she is, but definitely action oriented, well liked

964
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: fighter by the fan base.

965
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: They claim social media wise that her metrics are.

966
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 3: Through the roof because of the Chinese, so maybe maybe

967
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 3: it's slightly different conversation with her. Then you've got Valentina Chefchenko.

968
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: I don't think she's quite as exciting as her reputation

969
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: comes out, and I don't think she's a big box

970
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: office draw either. Generally is well respected within the fan base.

971
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 3: Thirty five I don't even know what I mean. Kayla

972
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: Harrison might get that belt, but Penya, you know, I

973
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: don't even know what to say about that division. The

974
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: answer is, there is certainly something to the argument that

975
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: they've got a cadre of champions who in many cases

976
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: are not popular but good. In other cases are not popular,

977
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 3: and you know, I don't know what to say about

978
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: the Peenas and so forth of the world. It's not

979
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: to say that it has affected every part of the

980
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 3: championship portfolio BC, but it is fair to say, is

981
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 3: there something to the idea that the UFC, because of

982
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: its internationalization and the way the MMA meta game has gone,

983
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 3: that you've just got a lot of these guys now

984
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 3: who have taken over, who aren't necessarily making the same

985
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: kinds of fan connections, no box office draws, even if

986
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: they are so good they can win titles. It's a

987
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 3: real issue. How big you want to say is certainly

988
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: up to for some debate, but I don't think it's

989
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: a nonexistent yho.

990
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: And I think the problem is that it's getting worse.

991
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: And the problem is that even though we needed this

992
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: fight to happen, we were criticizing the UFC for not

993
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: making this fight a year and ago when it probably

994
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: should have. You have to meritocracy wise. You have to

995
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: put people in there, your stars, in the toughest matchups,

996
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: and do what they do. They did it. Okay, the

997
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: title change, it's not about ankle iave here. But is

998
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: there a star problem?

999
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 4: Yes?

1000
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: Is there an aging group of stars the holloways McGregor's

1001
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: poier is no that are going to be out soon?

1002
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: And is there a proper backlog of people ready to

1003
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: replace No? And you could say, well, you can't just

1004
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: manufacture stars like a microwave, and you can't know. But

1005
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: I think you're starting to see the things that we've

1006
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: warned or Tea or said I'm not I don't like

1007
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: this trend.

1008
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 4: And people are like, BC, just just enjoy it. Shut up.

1009
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: This is our MMA, this is our weekend getaway. We

1010
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: don't want to hear your complaining. And that is true.

1011
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: There's only true up to a certain point, because I

1012
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: think the trends are this is starting to feel like

1013
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: a Soul Lists product. It's hard to make stars when

1014
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: it feels like a assembly line Walmart product of plug

1015
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: in place.

1016
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 4: When we're at the point where, like.

1017
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: What's the thing that got you into this game and

1018
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: kept you here, whether it was boxing or MMA or however,

1019
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: pro wrestling, however you started it. It's fighters and their stories.

1020
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: Fights and their stories. When was the last time a

1021
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: UFC fight had you feeling, you know, four months in advance,

1022
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: counting down the days, When was the last time we

1023
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: have like true rivalries or personal stories pushed to the forefront.

1024
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: I think this is really a clear vision of what

1025
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: happens when you become all about extracting as much money

1026
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: from the industry as you possibly can, spreading out and

1027
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: having as many tentacles and have a show every weekend

1028
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: as you possibly can, and becoming this kind of soulless

1029
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: factory with the Dana White Contender series, and nobody on

1030
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: these cards have Wikipedia pages, and you know, the next

1031
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: assembly line of young stars come in, they go one

1032
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: in three and they're out of the organization. Let's bring

1033
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: in the next group that it's always about the three

1034
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: letters UFC, Dana's face, the connection to the creators and

1035
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: politicians that they have, and the whole vibe of being

1036
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: a UFC fan. But that's not retaining the old hardcorees,

1037
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: and I think it's creating very short window fans who

1038
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: get into it for the Like everybody who's who's twenty

1039
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: something in white right now in mail is into UFC,

1040
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: and they've marketed it to them aggressively, but they're not

1041
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: doing what they used to do and spending the money

1042
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: or putting the focus to make you care about these individuals.

1043
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: They had a guy and God who had the greatest

1044
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: story personal of anyone that they've ever had in their organization,

1045
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: and look what's going on with that. They can't even

1046
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: make the fights under the hood right now. So if

1047
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: you want to talk about tk O boxing and where

1048
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: will it fit in and Dana claiming all these things,

1049
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: he's going to change. Let's look, let's look at where

1050
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: the UFC actually is right now. It's not inn Calioswalt,

1051
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: It's not really just about that. It's about the bigger

1052
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: picture to me, Luke, is there something to this or

1053
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: am I just getting so bitter? There?

1054
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 3: Where? Where are?

1055
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: Where's the stories and storylines? When someone gets a breakthrough win,

1056
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: they don't go to Bristol, Connecticut in the ESPN car

1057
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: wash in on eight hours of te anymore. They're not

1058
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: doing that type of stuff, you know what I'm saying.

1059
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: We had a press conference over the weekend, but it

1060
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: was about exploiting Bryce Mitchell's racism of come come see

1061
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: him and you can pay to throw the ball and

1062
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: he'll get dunked in the water.

1063
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 4: That's what it felt like.

1064
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 11: Like.

1065
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: This is like the UFC has turned into the de

1066
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: Reil tweet, you know, Drell or d Roll, where it's

1067
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 3: like either turning the racism meter up and looking back

1068
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: at the audience and smiling to see when they stop laughing.

1069
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: Let's pull you can even take race out of it,

1070
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: or even take it's a joke.

1071
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: I mean the we're cashing in on the controversy from

1072
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: these guys having opinions from nineteen twenty five. Okay, Long,

1073
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 3: I'll look, but let me let me try something here.

1074
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 3: Long isn't Luke. This is a hobby horse of BC's.

1075
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 3: It's not like I disagree with him, but I'm not

1076
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Speaker 3: as motivated by it in the same way as he is.

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00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: So let me ask you, and I'm trying to ask

1078
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: us in good faith, So go with me here. How

1079
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 3: much of this is BC's issue. How much of this

1080
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: is a product more general issue from your vantage point?

1081
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 3: And if you disagree with BC, please by all I

1082
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: means say so.

1083
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think it's as big of an issue

1084
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 6: as we're making it out to be. Like, obviously we

1085
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 6: don't have a McGregor a Rousey anything like that anymore,

1086
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 6: but we still have plenty of stars.

1087
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: Do you feel like they're trying to make stars or

1088
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: they're trying to that's the real question, all right, I

1089
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: mean yes and no.

1090
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 6: Dude, we just saw a Roofie get in his third

1091
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 6: UFC fight at the opening bout on a pay per view,

1092
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 6: and he showed the hell out man like he could

1093
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 6: be a future star. John Silva, another guy from that camp,

1094
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 6: obviously looks like a future star.

1095
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 5: Like I could see the marketing when you say star.

1096
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 3: Well, so when we say star, we mean people that

1097
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 3: draw big numbers on pay per view, That's what we mean.

1098
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 1: And people that are that become household names in regular

1099
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: sports homes that watch football and golf.

1100
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 3: Hoofy and jay On Silva are not pulling pay per view. Sure, yeah, yeah,

1101
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: that's right. That's right.

1102
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 5: So you're you're building Star.

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00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 6: I mean you're building Patty pimblet Is he gonna sell

1104
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 6: all these pay per views?

1105
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 3: Maybe it might argue?

1106
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: Might they're building them? Right?

1107
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Patty did my shot cut though I don't

1108
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 3: know how that's gonna go, you know what I mean?

1109
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: Like Shopcot might be a world beater, but I don't

1110
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: know how they're gonna that's gonna go.

1111
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 6: I think he's gonna be like Pantosia where he's always

1112
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 6: in fun fights, but his pay per views don't.

1113
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: Do that great.

1114
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, and then you've got then you've got Hamzat

1115
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 3: who's coming up two o five? I don't know, well,

1116
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 3: I think pot Uncle, I don't know who that was.

1117
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: When a card comes out and then BC's gonna come

1118
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: play and here we go. How bad is a BC

1119
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: and and I'll sometimes give you answers and the people

1120
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: be like, see, that's so much of a casual BC

1121
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: as he's trying to get these extra casual names added in.

1122
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: Isn't that part of what we loved and fell in

1123
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: love with the sport? Whatever year you came in, when

1124
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: you look at a UFC card and be like, title fights,

1125
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: I'll fight banger fights, veteran coming back, good storyline here,

1126
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: this here, Like you know, you had a lot of

1127
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: things if you're not targeting some form of it to

1128
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: the full casuals putting Jones aspinall a football stadium, doing

1129
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: that kind of things like that's the thing that keeps

1130
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: your sport healthy and growing. And would you argue that

1131
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: under the fetidos it felt more like it was about

1132
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: pushing the sport, and under the Endeavor era, it's about

1133
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: what can we take from the sport.

1134
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 3: So I feel like you and can I give you

1135
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 3: a few theories about what I think is happening, because

1136
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 3: I guess it's I think a lot of fans hear

1137
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 3: this and they're like, all these two old motherfuckers complaining,

1138
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: And I don't think that's necessarily unfair, but I do

1139
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 3: think there are some differences that we have to acknowledge.

1140
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 3: One is the Americans are just not as competitive as

1141
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 3: they once were. Like the reality is people might come

1142
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: to American gyms like ATT and you know, AKA or

1143
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: Extreme Couture, but the American like if you go back,

1144
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 3: for example, when GSP fought Jake Shields, you might recall

1145
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: that week that was in Toronto. I went to that fight.

1146
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 3: That's when they had that roundtable and it was Edgar

1147
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 3: and it was Cruz and it was Kine and it

1148
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 3: was John Jones and yeah, GSP was there and Anderson

1149
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: Silva and Josialdo were there, but it was majority Americans.

1150
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 3: The reality is the Americans are just not as competitive

1151
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 3: as they once were. That's just a fact. Okay, that's

1152
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 3: the first pride problem. The second problem I think that

1153
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 3: that we have to kind of face here is when

1154
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 3: we were indulging our MMA fandom coming up, it was

1155
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 3: a different kind of ecosystem, including a different media ecosystem where,

1156
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 3: to your point, you had to really go through traditional

1157
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 3: channels of media to promote these guys. It meant car

1158
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 3: washes before fights, it meant car WASH's after fights, It

1159
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 3: meant managers calling up every different you know, write an

1160
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 3: article for me in this site and this one, this one,

1161
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 3: and that has simply evaporated. There is still part of

1162
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 3: that happening. Obviously, people will go on Aerial Show today

1163
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, and that's not nothing, of course,

1164
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: but it's not the same kind of all in on

1165
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 3: this process that really built up larger than life figures

1166
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: with these big, bold narratives and whatnot. And also there's

1167
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 3: just so much happening from a content standpoint, it's just

1168
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 3: hard for rivalries to develop on top of it. I

1169
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: think a lot of that is playing into what you're

1170
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: talking about. That's making it feel very alien from the

1171
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: fight game that we grew up on and how we

1172
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 3: responded to it. But it is worth listening both to

1173
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 3: our audience as well as guys like Longan and Luke

1174
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 3: who are saying they don't exactly feel the same way

1175
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: that you do about this.

1176
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 4: Okay, well, let me see if this finally encapsulates it.

1177
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: Whether you come into combat sports liking real combat sports

1178
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: from pro wrestling or not, the hook of a story,

1179
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: like from the very beginning, is there going to be

1180
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: a major audience for fights if you have no connection

1181
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: at all well, there's some people love violence, people love whatever.

1182
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 4: There's gonna be some of it.

1183
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: But in totality, when you want something to be huge,

1184
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: you need the casuals. You need hooks, storylines to get

1185
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: the casuals. UFC used to be about the stories of

1186
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: the fighters in the fights. Now the story that they

1187
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: tell is the success of their brand. That's all. That's

1188
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: the only story they tell anymore. Dana pushing through the

1189
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: ultimate fighter one fight, saving the company after they put

1190
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: all that money in. Uh, look at us today where

1191
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: we stand politically like it's all about telling the story

1192
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: of them and taking that eye off the ball and

1193
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: going completely corporate commercial microwave. So there is also a

1194
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: TKO element has sucked the soul, the endeavor. TKO era

1195
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: has sucked the soul that keeps people caring.

1196
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 4: That's my point.

1197
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: My point isn't the hardcores that are going to be

1198
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: there every week no matter what because they love fighting

1199
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: or they're just into this. I'm talking about the casuals

1200
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: that are going to come and go.

1201
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: What is the evidence that that UFC has suffered from

1202
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 3: the casual fan retention?

1203
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: I think I've I've never seen as many groups of

1204
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: people be like I couldn't miss a fight on a

1205
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: pay per view, and now I don't even watch it live.

1206
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like that, that that's changed

1207
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 1: really quickly because post COVID it was they were on fire.

1208
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: Is that your experience, Liland Luke. I think that's actually

1209
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: a really interesting discussion.

1210
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, I have friends who are i'll

1211
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 6: call them casuals, who only really watch pay per views.

1212
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 6: And I know for a fact they did not buy

1213
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 6: the last two pay per views, even this one. Yeah,

1214
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 6: they didn't think it was worth it. Again, that's them,

1215
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 6: they're kind.

1216
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 3: Of but it's fucking poeton. I don't understand that, dude.

1217
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 5: I'm not the person. I'm just saying that's what they say,

1218
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 5: fair enough.

1219
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 3: I'm asking you to justify their logic. I don't know.

1220
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean, is Dana he was talking at the pros

1221
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: FI press conference about next year they may have to

1222
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: figure out lightening his load because he's got boxing, he's

1223
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: got power slap, he's got so much going on. Yeah,

1224
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a whole nother rabbit hole discussion about,

1225
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, replacing him and who could do that. But

1226
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like do you like covering this board

1227
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: and watching this sport as a fan? In this endeavor

1228
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: TKO era, has it improved the product or has it

1229
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: only month by month, year by year taken from it,

1230
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: taking the storylines, taking that care level. I never felt

1231
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: what I felt on Saturday, where it was just sort

1232
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: of like this doesn't matter. Yeah, I want to see

1233
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: the main event, but everything else felt like it didn't matter.

1234
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 3: I'll say this, there is simply no denying that we

1235
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 3: have to account for the fact that the way in

1236
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: which we fell in love with the Fight Game doesn't

1237
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: exist for anybody anymore. And however young people interface with

1238
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 3: the Fight Game and how they come to it, it's

1239
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 3: going to be a different process and we don't understand that,

1240
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 3: and we have to acknowledge that upfront.

1241
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 4: It's married to the star issue.

1242
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough, But I'm also going to say this

1243
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 3: to the young people who might be watching or people

1244
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 3: who had a different relationship to how they came to

1245
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 3: the Fight Game now, which is that you also must understand.

1246
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 3: Not only is the usc of Monopoly, which has been

1247
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 3: over a million times, but the parent company TKO they're

1248
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 3: Wall streeting this whole. They're they're treating the UFC like

1249
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: a financial instrument as part of a broader financial portfolio,

1250
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 3: not to the same extent that PFL does their own organization,

1251
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: not even fucking close to that.

1252
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 4: However, however, could use this opening, yeah to change there.

1253
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, But what I mean is you can detect it.

1254
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: It is.

1255
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 3: It is noticeable relative to how it used to being.

1256
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 3: The point I want to make is like, remember, dude,

1257
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 3: remember when Connor and fucking jose Aldo went on a

1258
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 3: world tour to promote that fight like they the UFC. Dude,

1259
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: that was when they were showing, Like when the UFC

1260
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 3: was like, you want to see how good we are

1261
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 3: promoting fights? Watch this shit. And they did it and

1262
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 3: they were right and it worked. Like, what we want

1263
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 3: to see is not them flex their muscle about how

1264
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 3: big their market cap is Live Gate, that's all they

1265
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 3: care about. We want to see them flex their muscle

1266
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 3: in terms of what they can do as promoters, not

1267
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 3: measured so much by the financial measurables, but measured by

1268
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 3: that kind of buzz, that cultural cachet. And I'm sorry

1269
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 3: to the younger fans, I can admit that we're missing

1270
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 3: components of this because of the way they came to

1271
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 3: the sport is simply a different way, and I accept that.

1272
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: But they also must accept that kind of thing that

1273
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 3: they used to do they just simply don't do anymore.

1274
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 3: And what we're trying to identify is I think some

1275
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 3: of that is missing.

1276
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: They're still the premiere vehicle and MMA by far, I mean,

1277
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: PFL can't get the PFL is about their own story.

1278
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: They're about telling you about their start game. They never

1279
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: tell you about their fighters' stories. But I will say, though,

1280
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: that it doesn't feel like a premiere product anymore. And

1281
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't say that, Oh, you're the boxing guy. You're

1282
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: just shipping, are you? Oh you have a grudge against data,

1283
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: none of the above. I'm the guy that wants long

1284
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: term job security here, you know what I mean. I

1285
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: want this thing to reach out to casuals. I want

1286
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: people to be banging on the door of UFC offices,

1287
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Speaker 1: going where's Jones aspinal? We haven't heard put that in

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Speaker 1: a stadium. Let's have a moment here, so that that's

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Speaker 1: really the argument. I mean. I'm feeling I'm watching this

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Speaker 1: turn into some of the bad stretches in boxing in

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Speaker 1: recent years. I'm feeling some of those same elements in

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Speaker 1: this Tico era and it does scare me to it.

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Speaker 3: So let me say one thing. If I made last

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Speaker 3: one on this, If there are viewers out there that

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00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 3: really think we're missing something on this argument, and I'm

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Speaker 3: sure that we are, hit us up Morningcombat at gmail

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Speaker 3: dot com, Morning Coombat at gmail dot com, video and

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Speaker 3: we'll play. Send a video, send a response.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 3: Listen, you can call us names, that's fine, But what

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00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 3: we're actually looking for is like a really good argument

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00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 3: to help us understand what we might be missing, because

1303
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: I'm certain, dude, generationally things happen where you have to

1304
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 3: be very careful about the myopia of your own worldview.

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Speaker 3: Morning Coombat at gmail dot com. You can send a

1306
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 3: voice note, you can send a video note, you can

1307
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 3: send a written note private part. So yeah, don't send

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Speaker 3: your dickenballs or buttthole, but everything else is fair game.

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00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 3: Let us know what you think we're wrong about, what

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Speaker 3: BC's missing, what I'm missing. Maybe i'd actually and I

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Speaker 3: couldn't say this more sincerely, we would love to hear it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much on that.

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Speaker 1: To close on the Star topic, there's a couple of

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Speaker 1: topics that lead to Big Star pushes. One of those

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Speaker 1: is Jones versus Aspinall. Here's Dana White giving an update

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Speaker 1: on that.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about Tom and John. Tom really sub

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Speaker 2: video bog a few days ago on the train where

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00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: he was saying, like John side is holding up the fight.

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Speaker 2: What is he referring to there? Well, I think that.

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Speaker 1: Listen, John Jones definitely wants to fight.

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Speaker 2: Just when and where is what we're working on.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel a confidence I think you said, John,

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Speaker 2: I'm on first staff.

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Speaker 1: Fight happens yeah, summer. Yeah, he's saying when and where.

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably more. They haven't finalized Jones price.

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00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: That's probably still where they're at. But if they can

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Speaker 1: get this for ifw that's that's month's huge. And I

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Speaker 1: know they don't want to do the stadium thing. I

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Speaker 1: wish they would for the way it would feel, Glynn,

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Speaker 1: but I just want it.

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Speaker 3: But people asked me, what was the fight you wanted

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Speaker 3: to see most this year? Jones aspinal period related question?

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Speaker 1: How much does the Poton loss affect John Jones's timeline

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Speaker 1: in the future. Does this put extra pressure on him

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Speaker 1: to get the Aspinall fight, because now with Poton coming

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Speaker 1: off a loss, headed into a rematch. Most likely he

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00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: can't say, here, take your heavyweight belt, I'll just fight Poton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it narrows his options pretty significantly. But at the

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Speaker 3: same time, this was kind of all like Dana was

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00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 3: not giving that fight a lot of interest, and now

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00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 3: you've sort of, I'm not saying formally removed it from consideration,

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00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 3: but it now goes very back burner ish. And plus,

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00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 3: if they're going to do a rematch, you have to

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00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 3: set that up and that's going to take time and

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00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 3: everything else. So I definitely think it constrains the options

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Speaker 3: of Jones. But Jones was kind of always playing with

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00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 3: house money here anyway, so we'll see. By the way,

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Speaker 3: this morning, I took the escalator down in Union Station

1351
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 3: to go. I had to go to Walgreens to go

1352
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: pick up something, and there is an advertisement one of

1353
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 3: these billboards that like changes over time, and as soon

1354
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Speaker 3: as I got to the bottom, it was John Jones

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Speaker 3: rend that healthcare company. I was right at the bottom there,

1356
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 3: and I was like, Wow, imagine aligning your brand with

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Speaker 3: this guy. That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: If they did that for ifw that'd be monstrous. I

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Speaker 1: really hope they can get that done. I hope they pay.

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Speaker 3: A heavyweight title unification in MMA is a fucking gigam.

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Speaker 1: I mean when I were talking about Innghanu being out

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01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: there and that they probably could have gotten that done.

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Speaker 1: If they want to a million times, you got to

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Speaker 1: get this one done. Poton's not going to be the

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Speaker 1: one that's going to crash it.

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Speaker 3: By the way, if they don't get it done now again,

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Speaker 3: we want that fight to happen, probably more than any

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Speaker 3: other fight. Yes, I'm gonna say this though, if they

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Speaker 3: don't get that fight to happen for whatever reason, we

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Speaker 3: need to revisit this conversation we're happening.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, they won't have a star problem if Aliataporia

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Speaker 1: moves into a really monster fight next and takes over

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Speaker 1: the lightweight division like he's threatening to. Here's the tweet

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Speaker 1: that has a lot of people talking related to this

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Speaker 1: so called star problem. When we announce it, you won't

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Speaker 1: believe it. Get ready, so everyone thinks this is either

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Speaker 1: Islam Mahachev for the title, maybe Connor McGregor for a

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Speaker 1: passing of the pay per view Torch and stardom. Luke,

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Speaker 1: we know you have a bon air from you know,

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Speaker 1: hard On from here to hanover, Ohio for this, gentleman,

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Speaker 1: if you found out this was him versus con McGregor,

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Speaker 1: what would you do because I'm I'm in on that

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01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: Carnival spectacle.

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Speaker 2: Just do it.

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Speaker 3: That's just I don't believe it's him.

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Speaker 1: Then what do you think this is a partnership and advertisement?

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Speaker 2: Is this?

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Speaker 12: Like?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's some kind of shit coin or

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Speaker 3: some Spanish fucking company or yes, do a.

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Speaker 4: Live detector on Dana. Let's watch Dana react to this title.

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Speaker 2: And when Ilia teased a massive announcement a few days ago,

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Speaker 2: is that fight related?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Probably, Okay, Okay, that's

1395
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: the Dana like I'm hiding it, which I'm fine if

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Speaker 1: he's hiding it that he's planning something big and it's

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Speaker 1: not done yet, I mean, just go right to Islam.

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Speaker 1: If you don't want to do the.

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Speaker 3: Well we didn't. Well we'll talk about this, but I

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01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 3: think Gayschie might end up getting that Islam fight or

1401
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 3: you know, I don't you know what that's going to go.

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01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 3: So dude, if it's probably, I mean I thought it

1403
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 3: was something cool too, but then my mentions were, like, dude,

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01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 3: he's selling a shit coin, and I was like, all right,

1405
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 3: it's I mean, you know, it's probably what it is.

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Speaker 3: I have no fucking ideas.

1407
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: Also long on, Luke Dana had some guests at power

1408
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: Slap in the UFC three thirteen over the weekend. Yeah,

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01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: those are alleged accused sex traffickers to tape brothers.

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01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 13: Yeah.

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01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and an elk.

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Speaker 3: Boys shut out by the way, guys who are either

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Speaker 3: facing charges or criminal investigations in three countries. I've traveled

1414
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Speaker 3: the world BC, I've never faced charges in three countries.

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01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 3: I'm not even facing charges in one country.

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Speaker 1: There's an aggressive negative response to this, and I think

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01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of rightfully so. But I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't need to pin us on the on the

1419
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Speaker 1: political argument, listeners, but like.

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Speaker 3: It grows is nothing, this is this is so obviously

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Speaker 3: I mean they're making it political. Boy who is defending

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Speaker 3: a not p It's obviously not a political issue. I'll

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Speaker 3: just say this. I watched MMA luminaries tell various state

1424
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Speaker 3: agencies for years in order to get legalized. We are

1425
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 3: not pimps, we are not hustlers, we're not thugs, We're

1426
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Speaker 3: not any of these like reprobates were math teachers. We

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Speaker 3: are dads, we have college degrees. And it turns out

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Speaker 3: fifteen twenty years later, when they said we weren't any

1429
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 3: of those bad things, that's exactly who they are. That's

1430
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 3: exactly who we are. That's exactly what that what that is?

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01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: That all that.

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01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 3: Bullshit that were math teachers and whatnot just a fucking

1433
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 3: lie the whole time.

1434
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: So all right, let's I don't know how to transition

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01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: out of that, so I'll just do it.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: I do love some Quervo. Don't think I don't.

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Speaker 4: That was that was some good stuff during pregame preview

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Speaker 4: with Chuck last Fear.

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Speaker 3: It never fails. It literally never fails. It's good every

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01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 3: single time. I'm not much of a drinking but you know,

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Speaker 3: when the opportunity is right in a safe and responsible way, Yes,

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Speaker 3: that's what we like to do.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to topic number three, which is

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01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: probably the best fight of the night. I think it

1455
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: did win that award. It was the co main event

1456
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: in the lightweight division of UFC three thirteen on twelve

1457
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Speaker 1: days notice? Was it Raphael Physiv? Isn't we going with

1458
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Speaker 1: Phyziv Phiziev?

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Speaker 3: So the dude who I was it for DAWs? Who

1460
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 3: reps him?

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01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: I don't know?

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Speaker 3: Remember remember for Dalls came up to us at the

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Speaker 3: MMA Award now and he was like, it's not Phizziev,

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Speaker 3: it's Physive.

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01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: Okay, well let me take this out.

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01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 3: So I'm assuming he's telling us. Maybe he told us

1467
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Speaker 3: some bullshit. I think he's telling the truth.

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Speaker 1: Though, Phazev came back from eighteen months out knee surgery,

1469
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Speaker 1: entering a rematch on twelve days notice against Justin Gaichee

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Speaker 1: and the veteran Gaichie, the former interim champion would rely

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Speaker 1: on that guile to outwork Paysive over the second half

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Speaker 1: of this fight, win the rematch and keep pace in

1473
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: the title picture. So I want to know just how

1474
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: impressed you were, Luke at thirty six years old, and

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01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: of course, coming off of that brutal ko lost to

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01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: Max Holloway. Is it safe to say that Justin Gaichee

1477
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Speaker 1: not only still has it on the elite level at

1478
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty five pounds, but that his chin,

1479
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: the whispers out there of his demise greatly exaggerated.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think you can just dismiss casually what

1481
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,959
Speaker 3: happened to him against Max Holloway. I think that would

1482
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 3: be very, very silly and ridiculous. But dude, this was

1483
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 3: so impressive from Justin Gaichee. And we always talk about

1484
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 3: the good parts of gai Chee helped bite down on

1485
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 3: the mouthpiece and throw. He's all action, he's missed or action.

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Speaker 3: And these are all true, absolutely all of it, one

1487
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Speaker 3: thousand percent true, one thousand percent deserve. I'm not telling

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01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 3: you guys anything you don't already know. I just want

1489
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Speaker 3: to say, like, these are the things though that we

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 3: commonly associate with him. But one thing I think we

1491
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 3: should also really really talk about when we are now

1492
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 3: speaking about not just him, but Michael Chandler, Dustin Poirier.

1493
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 3: I know Eddie is kind of Eddie Albertz's kind of

1494
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 3: transition over to BKFC, but he's part of this conversation. DA.

1495
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Speaker 3: There's a bunch of these guys who are kind.

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Speaker 2: Of like this.

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Speaker 3: These guys are absolute war horses. And when I say durable,

1498
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 3: I don't just mean tough in the fights, but durable

1499
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 3: as key figures as part of lightweight. I mean, this

1500
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 3: is what really occurred to me watching this PC was

1501
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 3: not just like the way in which Trevor Whitman and

1502
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 3: just engaged you came up with the game plan where

1503
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 3: they would slip roll to come over the top and

1504
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 3: then feed those uppercuts. It was so fucking awesome. It

1505
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 3: was incredible, dude. And by the way, to recover from

1506
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 3: that knockout mentally in the way that he did in

1507
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 3: terms of, like you know, willing to engage in action

1508
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 3: was incredible. To see that. Just that alone was remarkable.

1509
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 3: But I want to say something like, Dude, I can't

1510
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 3: prove this, but I think that if arminsar Yuki and

1511
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 3: had fought Islam Makachev at the January pay per view.

1512
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 3: I think I think Markachev would have won again. I

1513
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 3: can't prove that, but what I can say is physique

1514
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 3: granted our short notice and he fought well.

1515
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: Yes, he fought well, and he was ripped for short notice.

1516
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 3: For short notice, I mean, these guys stay incredible shape,

1517
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 3: but he couldn't get the job done with multiple cracks. Dude.

1518
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 3: When this generation of lightweights fully go, the Eddies, the Dustins,

1519
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 3: the Justins, to an extent, Islam himself the RDA's hooker.

1520
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:36,919
Speaker 3: When they go, the next generation will not be able

1521
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 3: to fill their shoes. They've had now multiple cracks at

1522
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 3: replacing these guys and they simply cannot do it. They

1523
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 3: have to wait until these motherfuckers get out of the

1524
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 3: business due to old aggs.

1525
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pier was like BSD, No.

1526
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 3: Dude, this is what I mean. And I gotta say

1527
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 3: I'm actually worried a little bit about the next generation

1528
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 3: of lightweight because it's not just the way you build

1529
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 3: up f acclaim, but the way that the public learns

1530
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 3: to take you seriously and understand your prowess is by

1531
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 3: getting those kinds of big victories which this old generation

1532
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:13,439
Speaker 3: keeps doing the mutumbo and fucking blocking them the whole

1533
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 3: time that they're trying. And Justin Gaichee after a devastating

1534
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 3: knockout loss plenty of time off short notice opponent who

1535
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 3: by the way, will absolutely knuckle up with you, yes

1536
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 3: right away, and by the way, in that first round

1537
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 3: look pretty fucking good, I have to say. But to

1538
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 3: come back that way again, not not not rescuing himself,

1539
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 3: but you know, turn the tide in the second with

1540
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 3: that uppercut, and then in the third, by the way,

1541
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 3: a very close third round two. Nevertheless, I cannot overstate

1542
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 3: to you how special that performance was, how special Justin

1543
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 3: Gaechee is. And this class of lightweights play the last

1544
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 3: of the Mohicans guys, because when they go, the next

1545
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 3: generation they'll replace them in the sense that you know,

1546
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 3: someone's got to be the fifth ranked guy when all

1547
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 3: the rest of them go, and the third and who

1548
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 3: everything else. They cannot replace what they have been to us.

1549
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 3: They cannot replace what they have meant to us. They

1550
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 3: cannot replace their heroics. A truly all time special class

1551
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 3: of fighters. Yeah, they're lightweights, but independent of the lightweight division,

1552
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 3: and we are lucky to be sitting here at this time.

1553
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't do DVDs anymore, but imagine putting

1554
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: on a DVD collection of every great lightweight brawl with

1555
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: these top of league guys that are all aging at

1556
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: the same time.

1557
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 3: It's in And I've said it before again, if you

1558
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 3: look at the best guys at lightweight, your bj pens,

1559
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 3: your islams, and your hbib's, they don't necessarily have the

1560
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 3: best fights, right. The best fights comes from the gay chees.

1561
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 3: They come from the Chandlers, it comes from the eddies,

1562
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 3: it comes from the Tony Ferguson was part of that.

1563
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 3: RDA is part of that, and on down the list.

1564
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 3: All those guys, they're the ones that made you fall

1565
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 3: in love with the fight game. They're the ones that

1566
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 3: had those fights where you remember exactly where you were

1567
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 3: when they were when you were watching it, whether you

1568
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 3: were in the arena or not in the arena. Justin

1569
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 3: Geechee put on another fucking one of those with by

1570
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 3: the way, BC headwinds the entire way, yes, and still

1571
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 3: got the fucking job.

1572
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: So it's funny.

1573
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 4: Dustin Poorie went in the whole.

1574
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm not Dusoe, Robbie Lawler went in the Hall over

1575
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: the weekend in the Hall of Fame, and uh, well

1576
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 1: deserved shout out to Ruthless. And I love seeing him

1577
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: cry too, because you never see any emotion from Robby

1578
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: in his whole career, and then he's crying during I

1579
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 1: loved it.

1580
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 10: Uh.

1581
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: He had that three fight stretch, the rematch against Hendricks

1582
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: to win the title, which was a fun fight, action fight,

1583
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: then Condit and McDonald Part two back to back, which

1584
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: were you know, the two gnarliest fights ever, that three

1585
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: fight stretch, and by the way, he lost the title

1586
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: after that, no surprise, the wear and tear in there.

1587
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm always like, that's probably the gnarliest manliest three fight

1588
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 1: stretch anybody has. What about gay Chee's first three UFC fights,

1589
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 1: the Michael Johnson Fight of the Year and then the

1590
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: law the TKO late losses to both Eddie and Pourier

1591
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: where they were just gnarly all. I mean, those three

1592
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: fights and he lost two of them, by the way,

1593
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 1: are like three of the gnarliest manliest performances in succession

1594
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: that we've ever seen.

1595
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 3: That doesn't even include his World Series of Fighting fights, which,

1596
01:10:58,760 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 3: by the way, or there's.

1597
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: Some guy that happened after.

1598
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some bangers on that one too.

1599
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 1: There's a lot of bangers. So in his last four

1600
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: fights now Geechee two wins over for Zeve, a head

1601
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: kick knock out of Dustin Pourier, and then of course

1602
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: the loss to Holloway. He has set himself up for

1603
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: a very very big fight. Here's justin talking about that proposition.

1604
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 8: For The great thing about your career is you can

1605
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 8: literally fight anybody in the division. Uh, you know it's

1606
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 8: gonna be a great fight. What does interest you? You know,

1607
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 8: you said, hey, I'm here. I mean, does trying to

1608
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 8: get Dan Hooker again? Does that make sense to you?

1609
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 10: Are you?

1610
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 3: Are you thinking more like title shots with I mean,

1611
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 3: what does make sense to you?

1612
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1613
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1614
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: We'll see.

1615
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 3: What do you want? What I mean, what do you

1616
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 3: still want at this point in your career?

1617
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 14: I mean, I want to fight for the bell. Obviously

1618
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 14: it's much different matchup. And I just had They tried

1619
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 14: to give me a donut. I took a bite, but

1620
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 14: I gotta I gotta get back to running if I'm

1621
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 14: gonna fight Makachev.

1622
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 2: Obviously you mentioned there you need to get the Cardio

1623
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: on point. What are some other things that you kind

1624
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: of think about when you look at a match up

1625
01:11:58,320 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 2: with him and how that could potentially go.

1626
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm gonna have to get my jiu jitsu coach

1627
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 14: out here, truly, just confidence. He's a tough matchup for

1628
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 14: and he's so good, so strong, and you know, I

1629
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 14: have to have a perfect night if I want to

1630
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 14: beat him.

1631
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 2: I guess for anyone that might wonder like, why should

1632
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 2: you get the shot over Arman or.

1633
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 3: Charles, I don't care.

1634
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: Argue with yourself.

1635
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 3: Fair, that is fair? That is fair? Uh?

1636
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: Is his case strong? And should it be elevated above

1637
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: Olivera and Saryuki? And based on the three wins and

1638
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: four fights that I mentioned and the fact that we

1639
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: have not seen this matchup yet, gay chie versus Machup.

1640
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the strongest argument meritocratically, but

1641
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 3: I don't know that that really matters. It's a good

1642
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 3: argument meritocratically, and it's a great argument for this era

1643
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 3: of lightweight and Islam. By the way, it's also good

1644
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 3: for Islam because it's a tough challenge. Granted you have

1645
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 3: to imagine that in the takedowns. What Habbie was able

1646
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 3: to do and get to the back that Islam might

1647
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 3: be able to do something similar. So I would favor

1648
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 3: Islam to win. But you know, when was the last

1649
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 3: time Geichie was matched up against anybody and you were like, eh,

1650
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 3: I could take it or leave it. Like it just

1651
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 3: doesn't it doesn't exist in that way. So and by

1652
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 3: the way, like you know, these guys are I'm sick

1653
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 3: of talking about it, but these guys are underpaid. It's very,

1654
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 3: very difficult. I mean a guy like Gaichi, whever how

1655
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 3: much money he's made, it should be ten xt Yes,

1656
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 3: you know, getting an opportunity in a title fight. Obviously

1657
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 3: the title fight itself wouldn't necessarily change his fortunes, but

1658
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 3: getting the title then he has any subsequent ones would

1659
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,799
Speaker 3: be a financial windfall for him. I think this generation

1660
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,839
Speaker 3: of lightweights that one the A listers in my judgment,

1661
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 3: they have earned it ten times over. So I'd be

1662
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 3: in favor of it, says again, so are you again?

1663
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm sorry? Like I know he's my Armenian brethren. He's

1664
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 3: simply not ready. I just don't think that he's ready.

1665
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 3: I don't think his skills set is matured enough. He

1666
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 3: can wait a little bit.

1667
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 1: His body is a wonderling.

1668
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 3: It is his first team all body.

1669
01:13:58,280 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: I'll use my hands.

1670
01:13:59,320 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1671
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: So if if not the okay, let's say it is

1672
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: the title. Let's say gay Chee gets mahuchev next. I

1673
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: think that fight is gonna be well anticipated, and I think,

1674
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: especially considering that Poorier turned that that title opportunity into

1675
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: a Fight of the Year contender, It's just gonna be

1676
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: fun no matter what, even if Islam figures himut and

1677
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: stops him. But who Luke Thomas if that happens, would

1678
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,759
Speaker 1: go to to Poria and who would go to Poorier

1679
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 1: if that is the way it goes.

1680
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 3: So if you take an interview with Submission Radio where

1681
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 3: he said that he heard it's gonna be uh Holloway three,

1682
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 3: I can't hate on that which is on that, But

1683
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 3: again again it's just it's just the.

1684
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 1: Pay per view main event.

1685
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 3: You don't even need to be on that. Yes, you

1686
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 3: could be a dickhead, go ahead, but dude, he's oh

1687
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 3: and two.

1688
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 5: Halloway's oh and two against Dustin?

1689
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 4: Why are we but he's revived one?

1690
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 3: Then what Marquez wash and three against before he.

1691
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,560
Speaker 5: Turned his different sport? But I don't know, it just

1692
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 5: feels weird.

1693
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,799
Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't have hated a Pourier gai Chi trilogy

1694
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 1: because I feel like they put they both of them,

1695
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: even with Chandler, in this era of great lightweights, they've

1696
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 1: made the best fights, and I think the best came

1697
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 1: from them together, especially that first Pourier ag one is

1698
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: my favorite fight of this great action era. But here's

1699
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: Gaichee saying why that's not an option for it?

1700
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 13: Yes?

1701
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: Are you interested in finding Dustin Poier for his retirement fight?

1702
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 10: Uh?

1703
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 14: No, I've stated many times I don't think either one

1704
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 14: of our families deserve that we're one on one.

1705
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. If he's okay with it.

1706
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 14: Then no, I don't think that's I don't I don't

1707
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 14: think we're.

1708
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 3: I think we're contenders if we be other people.

1709
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 14: If I be him, I don't think either one of

1710
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 14: us would be considered a contender.

1711
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 3: You agree with them that logic, not exactly, But I

1712
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 3: don't bemoan him not wanting a third fight, and I

1713
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 3: disagree with long onan Luke. I mean, I get that

1714
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 3: it's not a fresh matchup between Parier and Holloway.

1715
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: Holloway does have to be mf bel if we're.

1716
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 3: Keeping Yes, So there's that. But the point I want

1717
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 3: to make was like we got Jose Aldo fighting Mario

1718
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 3: Bautista and then Diggity Donk and then Rick Rick Orson

1719
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 3: is a hobby, yeah exactly, but like this is to

1720
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 3: be not a useful application of Aldo's time, and especially

1721
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 3: in Twilight Years anyway. So if so, what I'm trying

1722
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 3: to make is you got legend versus legend in Holloway

1723
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 3: and Porier like and by the way, like you would

1724
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 3: at least admit Long Island, Luke. It's gonna be a good.

1725
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 6: Fight, right, No, that's I don't want it to be misconstrued.

1726
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 6: It's gonna be a great You just have a different idea.

1727
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:28,799
Speaker 6: Just feel like it doesn't make sense.

1728
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Chandler's fighting Pimblet. If Dustin fights Max and Justin

1729
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 1: fights Islam, then who will Toporia make his one fifty

1730
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: five debut against the McGregor at one seventy in a

1731
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: pay per view or will he wait for the winner

1732
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 1: to get the winner of Islam and Justin.

1733
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 3: I don't know, because I thought it would have made

1734
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 3: sense for him to have a fight against Chucky Olives.

1735
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 3: I really thought to Pori versus Charles Lavera was the

1736
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 3: fight to make.

1737
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: So are they gonna make a Olivera Saruki in too,

1738
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: because they're both kind of.

1739
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck they're going to do,

1740
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 3: because that, to me was the fight to make. And

1741
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 3: then Toporia is like, oh no, I don't. I don't

1742
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 3: want to be take a number one contender fight. And

1743
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, you kind of need to.

1744
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 1: If they make him fight, do bronx, Toporio, do bronx?

1745
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, that's that's Boner.

1746
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 1: That's my that is Long Island. Look are you feeling

1747
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: it in the loins?

1748
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 13: Wow?

1749
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1750
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 6: That would be sick fight. But I actually I want

1751
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 6: Illio to get the immediate title shot.

1752
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 4: I don't think we can lose here. I don't think

1753
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 4: we can lose.

1754
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could do that too. I mean obviously that's

1755
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 3: you know, Ilia and Islam is obviously a huge fight.

1756
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: Finally, here's a picture of that first round where Physique

1757
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: was having control and then gae Chee tossed his salade

1758
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: of all positions in MMA, the reverse triangle. I mean,

1759
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: that's a tough one. What is the I'm going to

1760
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: ask a sincere question here. As ridiculous as this sounds,

1761
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: in the in busheto in in in top level mma,

1762
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: can you weaponize flatulence or would that be looked at

1763
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: the equivalent of like kicking somebody in the balls in

1764
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: a street fight.

1765
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if giving someone pink eye is.

1766
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 1: I mean, is that a gentleman thing where they where

1767
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, you don't do that. If I've got

1768
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm sitting on your face, I'm not

1769
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: gonna just.

1770
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I gotta be honest. Like anybody who's wrestled

1771
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 3: or don jiu jitsu, it's not like their crotch of

1772
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 3: your opponent's ember smells awesome. I remember I remember one time,

1773
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 3: this is a true story. I remember one time I

1774
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 3: went for a head inside single on a guy and

1775
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 3: his crotch smelled like a fucking dumpster fire covered in

1776
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 3: a like embryonic fluid that had been sitting in the

1777
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 3: sun that someone urinated on. I was like, dude, I

1778
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 3: don't know what's wrong with your genitals, but please go

1779
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 3: set them on fire because this is unacceptable as your

1780
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 3: training partner.

1781
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: Well, that takes us the topic number four, and it

1782
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:46,640
Speaker 1: is the UFC three thirteen Undercard. Wow, fighting nerds are

1783
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 1: taking over this time. Mauricio rufi with the wheel kick

1784
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: ko heard around the world. I think Terry Adam rolled

1785
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: over in his grave against King Green.

1786
01:18:59,320 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 3: We don't.

1787
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: We can't show the highlight, but I just want to

1788
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: show the fighting nerds reaction here, Capsey, that's of course

1789
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: Dan Silver, Carlos practish, so Luke.

1790
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 4: I use that video to set up this.

1791
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: We can talk about anybody here on the undercard, but

1792
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 1: you can argue that that Rufie stole the show. What

1793
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: is the secret right now behind this overwhelming savagery of

1794
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: the fighting nerds Jim and some pie sal Polo And

1795
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: how serious should we be taking Mauricio Rufie, who's now

1796
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,919
Speaker 1: four known the UFC twelve and one overall with eleven

1797
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: finishes and like I mentioned, unbeaten in the Contender series

1798
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: in UFC talk the savagery of fighting nerds and his

1799
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: hoofy looking as real as he as he looked there.

1800
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 3: Dude, this is one of the first of all easy

1801
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 3: knock out of the ear contender easy, easy, easy, easy, easy,

1802
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 3: just just one of the best things you've ever seen.

1803
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 3: First of all, there's that second of all, hoofy I

1804
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 3: are again, I'm not. They called him Hoofy, then they

1805
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 3: called him Roofie, and now they're calling them ghb. I

1806
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 3: don't know what they're calling them, but you know what

1807
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 3: I'm saying, they're just giving him na, just teasing the

1808
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 3: What I'm trying to make is it's still a little

1809
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 3: early because giving somebody Bobby Green or excuse me, I

1810
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 3: keep doing it. Giving somebody King Green is very different

1811
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 3: than giving them. But tell you, shagam rot right, you're

1812
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 3: getting up. You know, we still don't really know how

1813
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 3: that would go. They give him a very stylistically advantageous opponent,

1814
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 3: but holy shit, he over delivered. But let me just

1815
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 3: say this, because you asked about the fighting nerds themselves,

1816
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 3: they are easily one of the best things about the

1817
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 3: fight game to day, not just because they're speed running

1818
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 3: the collection, each of them Projess you mentioned Silva, you

1819
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 3: could do who good on the list. They're speed running

1820
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 3: the development of their own highlight reels like all time

1821
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 3: highlight reels. By the way, this one is going to

1822
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 3: stand the test of time for a long time. But

1823
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 3: that they come from the same team. These guys are

1824
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 3: so focused on letting personal creativity and being in a

1825
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 3: flow state with their offense deliver such a new and

1826
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 3: I mean there's nothing formulaic about what they do. Everything

1827
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 3: feels like it comes from their heart. And this is

1828
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 3: why I think fans respond. Are you getting devastating KOs

1829
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 3: and devastating highlight reels and cool stuff like that, Yes,

1830
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 3: of course, but you're also getting, even with language barriers BC,

1831
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 3: you're getting to see fighter personality. You're getting to see,

1832
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 3: like I don't, Hoofy speaks a little bit of English

1833
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 3: and Proches does speak some pretty decent English. But even

1834
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 3: if they didn't, don't you feel like you would understand

1835
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 3: them better. Watching how they move through face offs and

1836
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 3: then into the fights themselves, and how they go about

1837
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 3: picking apart their opponents, you can get a sense of

1838
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 3: who they are and how they think about things, and

1839
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 3: their vision of things and what appeals to them and

1840
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,799
Speaker 3: what doesn't just by watching them compete. They're not following,

1841
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 3: you know, jab one two level change, you know, and

1842
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 3: then we're just gonna do best practices and you just

1843
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 3: follow those. They are setting the table for a new

1844
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 3: set of best practices by personal expression. When we talk

1845
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 3: about mixed martial artists. These guys emphasize the last part,

1846
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,919
Speaker 3: yes artists, and it shows up in the most dynamic

1847
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 3: of ways. This is such a breath of fresh air.

1848
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 4: They bring contagious joy.

1849
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,560
Speaker 1: Yes, they bring approachable branding, meaning they always have a

1850
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: ton of those glasses and they're putting it on bronze.

1851
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: They're they're putting on every lost tanko everybody. So they're

1852
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 1: like approachable, like this comedic group, but they're absolute savage.

1853
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: Is in the cage. I mean, what's in the water

1854
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 1: in the gym. I mean there's like they must tear

1855
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: up the favellas at night, right, just like like Johnny

1856
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: Walker in Scotland.

1857
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 3: Right, Oh, Jeff laying pipe, I mean call him the

1858
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 3: plumber because he was laying pipe all over scott.

1859
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 4: But like each one, we're having the same conversations.

1860
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 1: Are they for real in their own division?

1861
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 10: All?

1862
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: Okay?

1863
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,560
Speaker 3: Well, these are sep of conversations because it's nice to

1864
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 3: see a guy who can flow and express himself. By

1865
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 3: the way, do you know who was the original guy

1866
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 3: in MMA who did that? Anderson Silva. Anderson Silva was

1867
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 3: the guy who was kind of like it, who didn't

1868
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 3: speak English for long stretches of his UFC run. But

1869
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 3: you could feel like you could get you could understand

1870
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:32,640
Speaker 3: who he was by these incredible artistic, you know, displays

1871
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 3: of acrobatic skill and the front kick to Vitor and

1872
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 3: the whole nine yards more than just that, you know,

1873
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 3: the whole bit. They're that. But he also had to

1874
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 3: face down wrestlers. He also had to face down guys

1875
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 3: who Nate mark Wark took mount on him or not. Sorry,

1876
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if Nate did. But Travis Luter did,

1877
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 3: you know all different kinds of ways you have difficult challenges.

1878
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 3: We still don't know about these guys yet. And I

1879
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 3: think twenty twenty five, certainly for Projests and certainly for Silva,

1880
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 3: because he now he's got that Bryce Mitchell fight, we're

1881
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 3: gonna get a little bit closer to an answer that.

1882
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,879
Speaker 1: Might make him a star indirectly. Like I get ultimately

1883
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: what the UFC is doing. I just don't like it's

1884
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 1: just all weird. It's all weird. But anyway, this is

1885
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: about the fight Nerds and Long Island.

1886
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 3: Luke.

1887
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: If you're gonna play matchmaker, how do you escalate that

1888
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 1: win for Roofie to keep him as Buzzworthy as his

1889
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: teammates seemed.

1890
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 6: To be right now, I'm not looking at the rankings,

1891
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 6: but Bobby Green, I know he wasn't ranked coming into

1892
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 6: this fight, but he has been ranked before. I feel

1893
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 6: like you gotta give him someone in that ten to

1894
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 6: fifteen range, someone fun who's gonna strike with him.

1895
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

1896
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 5: I don't have a name in the top of my head.

1897
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this whole card was a lightweight showcase in

1898
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. So why don't I bring in

1899
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 1: the other name right here that some people want to

1900
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 1: match him with? Bahamondees Ignascio. He took out Jalen Turner

1901
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 1: and then he retired him. How would you compare this

1902
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 1: as a breakout performance Rufie and Bahamonde's and is that

1903
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 1: the answer?

1904
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 4: Match them again?

1905
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure it's a breakout performance just yet.

1906
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not his fault. I mean, he did

1907
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 3: everything times a million that he was supposed to.

1908
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: But Turner was not there.

1909
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 3: I mean he was not there. And I was talking

1910
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 3: with long Luke about this ahead of time. How did

1911
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 3: the triangle get locked up? Because if you notice he

1912
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 3: throws the trigle, if he fakes an alma plata, he

1913
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 3: can't get it, and so when he circles back on

1914
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 3: a plata, you have to be this way. And then

1915
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 3: when he circles back into him, that's when he locks

1916
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 3: up the trigle. But it's not fully locked in because

1917
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 3: you'll notice that Turner is like you know, he's standing,

1918
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 3: he's sitting ramrod straight, very very difficult to get a

1919
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 3: triangle under the circumstances. You have to pull them down

1920
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:34,679
Speaker 3: to you, or go to them whatever.

1921
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: So what does he do?

1922
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 3: He scoots underneath, Yes, but he takes both of the

1923
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 3: wrists of Jalen Turner and then pulls it into him.

1924
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 3: It's hard to explain if you've never trained, but let

1925
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 3: me just say this. That should never happen to you ever,

1926
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 3: under any circumstance. Ever. It should never be a case.

1927
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 3: It's a little bit less. Actually this is not true

1928
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 3: in the gee, where guys can get double sleeve, but

1929
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 3: in Nogi, no one should be able to reach out

1930
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 3: and grab both of your wrists and you do nothing

1931
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 3: about it. If someone has both of your not just

1932
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 3: one dude, someone grabs one of your fucking wrists, you're

1933
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 3: in trouble. If they get both of them and you

1934
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 3: don't contest that. And I know he was moving kind

1935
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 3: of quickly, but it should be automatic if they're able

1936
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 3: to make a double grip on you in nogi and

1937
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 3: you were not immediately peeling grips, first of all, you

1938
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 3: can see what happens. And also like well trained, dialed

1939
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 3: in fighters, like how many times have you ever seen

1940
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 3: someone get double sleeve pulled into a triangle in the UFC?

1941
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 3: It almost from guard no less, it never happens. It's

1942
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 3: very very unusual. That to me tells me in the

1943
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 3: fact that he retired.

1944
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: Obviously he's bigger, mean, he's lost, He's only twenty nine

1945
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: Jalen Turner. But this is four losses and he even

1946
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 1: though I think he was not there a bunch of

1947
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: those losses, like we said in the preview, coming in,

1948
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: didn't tell the full story, came in in great shape.

1949
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 1: He looked okay early on. Right.

1950
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you should never ever, ever, ever let someone make

1951
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 3: grips on you like that. Ever, it should never happen.

1952
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:00,719
Speaker 3: The fact that it did was like a red flag.

1953
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 1: How about Bahamondos against Matt Rovolan next, and then we'll

1954
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: do I'll take it. And then we'll do. I'll take

1955
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,480
Speaker 1: it Roofie against.

1956
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 3: Be careful that one.

1957
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 5: Yes, all right, sod though is rumored.

1958
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 4: He did the out of sign you a bit.

1959
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 3: Yes, ESD is rumored to.

1960
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 5: Be fighting winner of that fight BC.

1961
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 6: I was saying to Luke pre show that I like

1962
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 6: Bahamunda's versus physive. I think that could be a banger.

1963
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 1: That is that is interesting too. But that's that's three

1964
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 1: losses in a row for physive. Now, I mean he's

1965
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 1: got to get Let the guy get a full camp

1966
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 1: here in a healthy neeed. But uh yeah, okay, I mean,

1967
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: are you down on physive after this? We didn't mention

1968
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 1: that or you say days he tried his best man,

1969
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 1: It's not again.

1970
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 3: It's one of those things where it's like you watch

1971
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 3: him fighting, like did he perform poorly?

1972
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: Not at all?

1973
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:56,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, not at all, but the fact that he couldn't

1974
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 3: break through again and now he's in his thirties.

1975
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: Quickly on the rest of this car Josh van another

1976
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: Josh when not? I mean didn't he had a word.

1977
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 1: He had to earn it.

1978
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 3: He had to earn it. It was not very easy.

1979
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 3: It did to me. It was a good it was

1980
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 3: a very good performance from Josh Van, who am still

1981
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 3: quite quite high on. To me, it was a little

1982
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 3: bit more of race. Aruya's lack of overall development kind

1983
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 3: of costing him here.

1984
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 1: When he finds out you can punch in these fights,

1985
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: he's gonna be good race, You know what I mean?

1986
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 3: Yes, that's basically it. He's obviously he's grappling as phenomenal,

1987
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 3: but it's just dude, he's a one trick pony.

1988
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 1: A little bit so amando Leimos didn't didn't make us

1989
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: like overly excited, but she got the win there. I mean,

1990
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: unfortunate that Joe Rogan said he instead of she when

1991
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: talking about her.

1992
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 3: Who gives a shit like we don't have time. Women's

1993
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 3: mma is a fucking disaster. It's a disaster. Am I wrong?

1994
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 4: You got issues with suffrage too?

1995
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 3: No, they can vote. I mean they should be voting.

1996
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 3: They're wonderful people, but this that side of the game

1997
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 3: is a fucking.

1998
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 1: Since we had so much downtrodden. Anything else you want

1999
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: to say about this car positively Long Island. Anybody jump

2000
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 1: out on your main card minute undercard here?

2001
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 5: Carlos Leal look good against Alex Marono for whatever, That's what.

2002
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 1: Ye, Corona looks like he's on the way out.

2003
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, Francis Marshall got robbed.

2004
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 3: I mean.

2005
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 1: That first fight was sloppy, gross and wild.

2006
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 3: Did you see the Jordan and Ozzie fight? Yes, yes

2007
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 3: it was.

2008
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: There was no technique going.

2009
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, what are we doing? Yeah?

2010
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: What are we doing? All right?

2011
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 4: Luke, have you heard of gold Belly?

2012
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 1: By any chance, I have heard of gold I think

2013
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 1: you have. It's this amazing sight, of course, where you

2014
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 1: can get the most iconic, famous foods from restaurants all

2015
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 1: over the US and they will ship it free to

2016
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: your door anywhere in the country. You may have heard

2017
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 1: Luke and I talking about this before I got that

2018
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: guy FIEDI trash can, nacho sent to my house, barbecue,

2019
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 1: pulled chicken, all the fictions. My kids were like, oh

2020
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 1: oh you got that guy fee anything you got there

2021
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 1: like they were fired up.

2022
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 4: It was a nice feast.

2023
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: It happened to be Super Bowl Sunday when we had that,

2024
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:00,600
Speaker 1: so the timing was perfect and it was wonderful. And

2025
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 1: look it comes shipped to your house frozen, ready to go.

2026
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: Put it in there. Not too much longer. You're rocking

2027
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: out I know my family enjoyed it, knowing that that

2028
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: I can get that flavor from somewhere else sent to

2029
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 1: my door.

2030
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 4: I know you took down some of them wings.

2031
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I got the stuff from Anchor Bar that

2032
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 3: is in Buffalo, New York. They sent me some wings.

2033
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 3: They sent me some ranch and some blue cheese. They

2034
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 3: sent me some sauces and even instructions on how to

2035
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 3: exactly they prepare it the right way. And you're thinking, oh, well,

2036
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 3: how you know, how fresh could it possibly be? You know,

2037
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 3: how good could it actually taste? And then when you

2038
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 3: follow the instructions and everything that they sent you and

2039
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 3: you fired it all up. We did it, and we

2040
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 3: could not believe how good it actually was. It was

2041
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 3: freaking delicious. Who doesn't love wings?

2042
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: And it was easy. I'm not a good cook. I'm

2043
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 1: not a good cook at all. It's very easy.

2044
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 3: All you got to do is just follow the instructions

2045
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:50,760
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2046
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 3: from so many iconic places from across the country. Honestly,

2047
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 3: a great deal for great food. You can use it

2048
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,479
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2049
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 3: in the top.

2050
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2052
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Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

2064
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 1: All right, let's continue on down the topic list here

2065
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 1: and let's go two topic number five. This is boxing

2066
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 1: quick little round up here. Maybe first and foremost, the

2067
01:31:56,840 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 1: New York Stay Athletic Commission upon an appeal request from

2068
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:04,879
Speaker 1: Lamont Roach Junior for his controversial majority draw against Ravonte

2069
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,640
Speaker 1: Davis just a few weeks back, ABC on Prime pay

2070
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 1: per view and the missed Knockdown call in round nine

2071
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 1: along with the replay malfunction. A lot went bad here

2072
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: against Lamont Roach, but the New York stay Athletic Commission

2073
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:23,600
Speaker 1: has declined that appeal, and Luke, they did admit in

2074
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 1: their investigation that referee Steve Willis blew the knockdown call

2075
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 1: in round nine. They did acknowledge their inability to get

2076
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 1: the replay under law there, but they ultimately rude that

2077
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: they would not change the outcome of the fight, claiming

2078
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 1: it couldn't predict how the next three rounds would go

2079
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 1: after that had they gone back in time and fixed that.

2080
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:45,680
Speaker 1: So while the ruling on the surface appears to be

2081
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 1: yet another raw deal for Roach, who kind of couldn't

2082
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 1: get a break from this, the New York sty Athletic

2083
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 1: Commission right call or not right call from the standpoint

2084
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 1: of avoiding a future precedent of people wanting to go

2085
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: back and change the results in fire, because it's really

2086
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 1: been a fifty to fifty split on the reaction to it,

2087
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: Luke outside of like, hey, Roach probably deserved better and

2088
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 1: boy did he. Should we extend that power where they'll

2089
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 1: go back and change a result if there's as much

2090
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 1: pressure coming there?

2091
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 3: Way, I am. I don't think it's the biggest deal

2092
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 3: in the world that they didn't overturn it because the

2093
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 3: knockdown wasn't called, but the fact that they also didn't

2094
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 3: disqualify him when the referee was going one, two, three

2095
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:29,719
Speaker 3: visible we talked about it visibly is counting, visibly stops counting.

2096
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 3: The guy puts his head out, gets wiped off again.

2097
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 3: We don't know he's claiming he got stuff out of

2098
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 3: his eye, but we actually don't even know what I

2099
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,560
Speaker 3: said that's really true. It's just the story that he

2100
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 3: told us. And you know, by the way, I'm not

2101
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 3: saying that's not ultimately true. I'm saying an unscrupulous fighter

2102
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 3: could have could use the exact same logic for much

2103
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 3: more nefarious purposes, and we're just gonna let it go.

2104
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 3: I don't understand these arguments about like, oh, well, if

2105
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 3: Tank had got a point deducted, he could have fought differently. Okay, Well,

2106
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 3: if Tank had fought differently than Lamont, roach could have

2107
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:00,759
Speaker 3: also fought differently, and it could have also even increased

2108
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 3: his lead, and it could have even led to a knockout.

2109
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 3: This idea that like this was all in the hands

2110
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 3: of Tank and that's the only deciding factor about how

2111
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 3: it all could have changed. To me, is a really

2112
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:11,879
Speaker 3: empty argument. It could have changed any number of downstream

2113
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 3: effects that have nothing to do with Tank, or at

2114
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 3: least that a bare minimum in addition to any kind

2115
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 3: of change Tank made. The reality is this, dude, show

2116
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 3: me what the fair due process to Lamont Peterson looks like.

2117
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 3: You had a refuge. I keep doing the Peterson Lamont roach.

2118
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:29,839
Speaker 3: Show me what that looks like. You had a referee

2119
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 3: begin account stop, there's no accounting for that. You had

2120
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 3: a guy stick his head out and a corner come

2121
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,679
Speaker 3: up and wipe something off, and he takes a knee.

2122
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 3: And the answer that the commission comes up with is

2123
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 3: we're going to do nothing. I gotta say I'm torn

2124
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 3: on this, though I'm not torn. They should overturn that

2125
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 3: fucking result that is to a bare minimum disqualified Tank.

2126
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,719
Speaker 1: This is the first time I think I've I felt

2127
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 1: like I'm willing because and in people that ask me

2128
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: in recent podcasts, you know, what would you do? And

2129
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, or what should happen? And I'm like, it

2130
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 1: should be overturned because it's obvious how wrong it was.

2131
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 1: And they screwed over Roach in like three different ways.

2132
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 1: But that is a there's enough corruption in boxing where

2133
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if I like the precedent, because let

2134
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:11,719
Speaker 1: me give you an example. We all remember Mike Tyson

2135
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 1: getting knocked out by Buggert Buster Douglas in nineteen ninety.

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01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 1: What I sometimes forget is Don King, for weeks after

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01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 1: was trying to get that appealed. They were arguing that

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01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 1: there was a long count earlier when Douglas got knocked

2139
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 1: down by Tyson, and I remember thinking, as a kid man,

2140
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 1: this guy Buster Douglas just had this, you know, great

2141
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 1: and breakthrough moment. But this evil rich promoter is going

2142
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 1: to use, you know, the legal system to potentially try

2143
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 1: to uphend that and get history changed. And I remember

2144
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 1: when that appeal wasn't changed. It was like, I don't

2145
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 1: know if I want that introduced. Even though this is

2146
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 1: an extreme situation where Roach got screwed, I don't want

2147
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:47,560
Speaker 1: there to be an opening for for for that to

2148
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 1: become the norm. Oh, we don't like the results, so

2149
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick out one thing like there's room for

2150
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 1: human error, even like I don't think you should go.

2151
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 1: That's why it was always against relay error replay in

2152
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 1: the NBA, I was always against because I feel like

2153
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 1: that's a game that if you stop for long periods,

2154
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 1: that slows the momentum in so many ways. That's why

2155
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 1: I'm largely against instant replaying a lot of situations. But

2156
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want instant replay after the fact. I wouldn't

2157
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 1: want to watch an NBA playoff game and then after

2158
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 1: the fact they're like, oh, we did make a mistake,

2159
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 1: let's let's switch the score the other team wins.

2160
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 4: That would feel so.

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01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. No, you don't disagree, You

2162
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 1: don't agree with me, No, I don't.

2163
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 3: I think people are hand ringing over absolutely nothing. How

2164
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:24,639
Speaker 3: many different ways can you fuck a guy, take away

2165
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 3: his due process and then say that the result should

2166
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 3: be we do absolutely nothing about it. This is the problem.

2167
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 3: The solution is the thing that we're not actually doing.

2168
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 3: What we're doing is just prolonging the problem. People like,

2169
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 3: to your point, well, it's a bit of a slippery slope. No,

2170
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:40,560
Speaker 3: the fuck it is not.

2171
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 1: I think it is. The lawyer.

2172
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 3: The lawyer for Lamont Roach didn't just list the knee

2173
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 3: as you indicated. He listed several different ways in which

2174
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 3: the Commission aired. And my question to everyone is how

2175
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 3: many fucking things does the Commission have to screw up

2176
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 3: and take away what they owe in terms of fairness,

2177
01:36:57,320 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 3: Like was that contest can deducted fairly for lamont roach?

2178
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 3: And the answer is absolutely fucking not. Okay, you cannot

2179
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 3: let me finish. You cannot make the argument that that

2180
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 3: was fair to him. And in fact, what you can

2181
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 3: argue is that they.

2182
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 1: Broke not one, several rules.

2183
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 3: To arrive at a place where Tank Davis enjoys a draw.

2184
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 3: It is bullshit. It is a fraudulent result based on

2185
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 3: a series, not one, a series of failures. The solution

2186
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 3: is to address this.

2187
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:35,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I've acknowledged that. I fully agree he got completely screwed.

2188
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: That's not the argument. So you're I don't know who

2189
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 1: are you yelling at?

2190
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 3: By the way the camera?

2191
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 4: Oh, is there like a group of people that you're

2192
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 4: targeting here?

2193
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 2: This?

2194
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 3: After we do a show where we talk for a living?

2195
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 3: Am I allowed to put a little bit of life

2196
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:46,600
Speaker 3: into it?

2197
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:47,600
Speaker 4: Put a little mustard on that?

2198
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 1: I like that. I'm gonna ask you, is there a

2199
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,680
Speaker 1: middle ground where we can change this to a no contest.

2200
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:52,760
Speaker 3: I'd be okay with that.

2201
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 1: I could live with I could live with that fight

2202
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 1: Fan Long Island, Luke, what do you think about that

2203
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 1: this specific let's apply this to MMA if it was

2204
01:37:59,160 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: a big UFC fight.

2205
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 6: So I just want to bring it back to NBA

2206
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 6: for a second, because you were saying like it'd be

2207
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 6: weird to live in a world where you see the

2208
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 6: result then the next morning they change it. NBA all

2209
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 6: the time will tweet out and say, we fucked up

2210
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 6: the call at the end of that game, this team

2211
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 6: should have won.

2212
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 5: We fucked up. They don't ever change.

2213
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 1: See, there's a there's more of an argument. I get

2214
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 1: that this is an extreme example of Roach getting fucked.

2215
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 1: You don't have to creep relitigating that. But I do

2216
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 1: think that change is oppressive.

2217
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna ask a question one more time. Was

2218
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:29,800
Speaker 3: that fight, by the rules conducted fairly for Lamont Roach?

2219
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 11: No?

2220
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 3: The answer is no. And so what I'm asking is,

2221
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 3: why does that decision then on their record? Why are

2222
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 3: we sanctifying it? Why are we sanctifying it as some

2223
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 3: kind of legitimate above board process. It was not fair,

2224
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 3: The result was not fair. It should be fucking overturned.

2225
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 3: It's not fair.

2226
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 6: But again, this happens all that, Like, there was that picture.

2227
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:55,759
Speaker 6: I think his name was Galaraga or something.

2228
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 1: On the first Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, sorry Almond.

2229
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 5: Game on his record, but he doesn't he.

2230
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 3: Has right, that's one failure. That's one failure. We're talking

2231
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:09,599
Speaker 3: about a cascading series.

2232
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 1: No contest change. It's just because, look, we all want

2233
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 1: to rematch. It seems that they're going in that direction.

2234
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 1: Tank has a contractually obligated if he kicks it in

2235
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 1: that he can make this. So he says publicly he

2236
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:23,719
Speaker 1: wants it. Let's hear from Gary Jonas of Probox, who's

2237
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 1: sort of acting as promoter.

2238
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 3: Slash, which is Roach's team, tells me that's not true.

2239
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 3: I mean there there yeah, an advisor, yes, but not

2240
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Speaker 3: a promoter.

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01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 1: Technically he's not a promoter, but he's kind of a

2242
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 1: helping advisor for him. Here's him and Roach talking about

2243
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 1: a rematch. Important question on everyone's mind. How close is

2244
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 1: the rematch?

2245
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 3: How big will it be? How close is it to

2246
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 3: getting done?

2247
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 8: It?

2248
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 12: Very close, it's it's in my mind it's a done deal.

2249
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 12: But there are formalities, but it's a done deal and

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01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 12: it's not far off. I can't give you more than

2251
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 12: that right now. What I can tell you is that

2252
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 12: it is going to be an interesting fight. I think

2253
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 12: you've got dynamics, You've got Javonte, who's probably going to

2254
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 12: be angry, probably woken up, probably more focused than he

2255
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 12: has been, not talking about retirement.

2256
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 3: That's a factor.

2257
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 1: May May is pretty pretty sooner than later. Right May is.

2258
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 3: I would be totally okay with that. I just I

2259
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 3: want to say something if I can. And it's a

2260
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 3: common denominator because remember it's the same commissions that are

2261
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 3: doing MMA in boxing, it's the exact same I mean,

2262
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 3: we might have different referees and stuff, but it's the

2263
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 3: same governing agencies. You can see in both MMA and

2264
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:36,560
Speaker 3: boxing there's this reluctance to call upon the regulatory apparatus

2265
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 3: to do more. Oh, we don't want referees in MMA

2266
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 3: to break things up. If you can't stand up on

2267
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 3: your own, you're on your own. And there's this whole

2268
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:47,560
Speaker 3: movement about that, Oh, we don't want them, you know,

2269
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,919
Speaker 3: to be righting any wrongs as part of the commission

2270
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 3: because you know, at this encroachment by the officiating staff

2271
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 3: and by the office itself, this will this will pollute

2272
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 3: the game. And I'm like, you're just tolerating bullshit that

2273
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 3: happens all the fucking time, either how the sport looks

2274
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 3: or how judgments are rendered, because you have this abnormal

2275
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 3: and frankly irrational fear about asking the people who are

2276
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 3: charged with doing this correctly to dot dot dot do

2277
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:23,719
Speaker 3: it correctly. You cannot screw over guys in main events

2278
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 3: like this. But by the way, Lamont, roach may never

2279
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 3: even get a rematch. They're talking about maybec but you know,

2280
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 3: how this goes, something could happen. He may never even

2281
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:31,759
Speaker 3: get the rematch.

2282
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 1: This was a huge there's a country, there's a contract,

2283
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 1: they have to have it.

2284
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 3: There's all kinds of ways that could fall up.

2285
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if Tank says no, then it falls, it

2286
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 1: falls apart.

2287
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is these opportunities for guys like Lamont,

2288
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 3: they they very rarely come around. They fucked him more

2289
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 3: than one way, and then the answer is we want

2290
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:52,560
Speaker 3: to do nothing. And people like oh, they didn't interfere

2291
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 3: with the way it naturally went, well, the way it

2292
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:55,639
Speaker 3: naturally went.

2293
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 1: But it changed the precedent. So make it a no

2294
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 1: contest and they better grow and learn from But will

2295
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 1: they I don't know. Will there be a Muhammad Ali.

2296
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 4: Act in a few years, I don't know.

2297
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 1: But our next our topic within this is we got

2298
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,759
Speaker 1: a little bit more knowledge of what this TKO boxing

2299
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 1: takeover could eventually look like, with Dana White saying in

2300
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 1: recent interviews it's actually not until another eighteen months from

2301
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 1: now that they want to launch sort of the Young

2302
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 1: Fighter League that they want to do. Other data developments

2303
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 1: are that they want to have a small amount of

2304
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:26,840
Speaker 1: weight classes, maybe marrying the original eight that had been

2305
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 1: part of boxing for so long and not have seventeen

2306
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 1: like boxing currently has, which I'm not against by any means.

2307
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 1: But the idea that they would work with other people, well,

2308
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 1: we also got that answer at the UFC three thirteen

2309
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 1: postfight press conference.

2310
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 15: You talk about the business of boxing, one of the

2311
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 15: biggest issues in it is that the guys who are

2312
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 15: in boxing can't get on and they never do deals.

2313
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 15: And it took Turkey to come along with money to

2314
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 15: basically make them work together. Right, So with that respect,

2315
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 15: when you've come on to do this for Turkey, do

2316
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:57,759
Speaker 15: you almost have to cut out these other guys because

2317
01:42:57,760 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 15: they're just going to make your job harder, right, if

2318
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 15: you have to negotiate with every promoter in the song,

2319
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 15: do you have to come out and eventually just get

2320
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 15: rid of these guys lock the bin Akatraz, Like Turkey said,

2321
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:06,879
Speaker 15: I just do it yourself.

2322
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

2323
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 13: I'm more focused on if you think about the UFC

2324
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 13: when we when we bought the company, we had three

2325
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 13: letters the old Octagon and twelve contracts. We had to

2326
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 13: build the thing from the ground up. I think that

2327
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 13: the sport of boxing is so broken it needs to

2328
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 13: be built from the ground up again. And that's what

2329
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:29,560
Speaker 13: I'm gonna focus on doing. You know, He's got some

2330
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:33,560
Speaker 13: commitments over the next eighteen months with a lot of

2331
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 13: guys and a lot of fights and a lot of

2332
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 13: different promoters. But I I talk a lot about USA's

2333
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 13: Tuesday Night fights. You know, they put on like the best,

2334
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 13: the best up and coming fighters all fought.

2335
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:53,680
Speaker 1: He would go on to talk about that model that

2336
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 1: he wants to do, but that's a big reveal. There

2337
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 1: no plans to work with other promoters. So this really

2338
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 1: is going to be a league with they want to

2339
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 1: call it or not. They're going to have their own titles,

2340
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 1: which is a violation currently of the Muhammad Ali REFORMAC.

2341
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:07,200
Speaker 1: We'll see if they can go around that or get

2342
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 1: it changed. Data does not seem to be worried about that.

2343
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 1: How does this change quickly your your vision of what

2344
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 1: DKO might mean?

2345
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 3: I hope everyone stands this. UFC titles are not real,

2346
01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 3: you know that, right?

2347
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 2: Right?

2348
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 3: Like you have a UFC staff under oath, not just

2349
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 3: Mark Ratner, but Lawrence Epstein and others. You have a

2350
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 3: Lorenzo for Tida admitting it's just a trophy they hand

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Speaker 3: out to the best fighter that night. But it actually

2352
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 3: isn't a real title in the way that we typically

2353
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 3: understand titles. It's just a thing that they made up.

2354
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 3: So there's that as well. I mean, guys, I keep

2355
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 3: donning explain every one, like what's gonna happen here? And

2356
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 3: on top of it, not only are they not going

2357
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 3: to work with other promoters and everything else that want

2358
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:45,040
Speaker 3: to do reduce the number of wait classes, which by

2359
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 3: the way, could be kind of interesting. I suppose we'll see,

2360
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 3: but you know, I mean, we've kind of been over

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01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 3: this PC.

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01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 1: But I don't know. They're coming in with day one

2363
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:56,679
Speaker 1: ideas that they're going to be UFC in boxing, same model,

2364
01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 1: same partrol, when the reality is they're the equivalent of

2365
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:03,680
Speaker 1: Bellator or PFL trying to come into MMA against the

2366
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:06,599
Speaker 1: behemoth UFC. Now in boxing right now, there's not one behemoth.

2367
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:08,920
Speaker 1: It's spread out. And I'm not saying that they're not

2368
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 1: going to have some incredibly large advantage with Turkey's money

2369
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:15,160
Speaker 1: now going right at them rather than spreading it to

2370
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 1: other promoters. But to come out without a roster, how

2371
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:19,519
Speaker 1: are they gonna you know what I mean? You can,

2372
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 1: you can probably overpay and get a few big names,

2373
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 1: but how are you going to be the premier operation

2374
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 1: when that's how you're presenting yourself from day one, eighteen

2375
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 1: months before they even launch.

2376
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 3: They're gonna build up a bunch of guys, sign them

2377
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 3: to deals like the Ultimate Fighter where they're super fucking long,

2378
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 3: they keep them under lock and keep their titles.

2379
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 1: Won't matter if they have you know, journeymen or second

2380
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 1: rate prospect and they don't have the other names around.

2381
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:42,759
Speaker 1: Then them having eight divisions in one title per division,

2382
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 1: it's not the best versus the best. I mean, show

2383
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 1: the tweet that I want to just put up there

2384
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 1: because I feel like this is I feel like boxing

2385
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: is starting to aggressively turn against this idea. I am,

2386
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:52,640
Speaker 1: I am.

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01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 3: I think betting against the UFC slash TKO is a

2388
01:45:57,840 --> 01:45:58,879
Speaker 3: unwise proposition.

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01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 1: I get that, But like I said that the other day,

2390
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:04,400
Speaker 1: it's like Turkey. In the beginning, the message was we're

2391
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 1: bringing everything together. Now that TKO has arrived, it's worth

2392
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 1: separating now, and it's your a, their weathers. You're against us.

2393
01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 1: But unless they're not telling us something like they're gonna

2394
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 1: be able to get all these boxers out of their

2395
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 1: current contracts, they seem a little bit too confident for

2396
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 1: for the the the meandering battle that it's going to

2397
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 1: be to get to that point where they own the market.

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01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 3: Like that, I think you're I guess we'll have to see.

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01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know. I don't know how to

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01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 3: respond to that.

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01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 1: I just don't see. I don't know if you're if

2402
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 1: you're a boxer and you know their history of how

2403
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 1: they pay an MMA and how they structure it, and

2404
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 1: they want to reveal they want to take get rid

2405
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 1: of the Muhammad aliak, which will take you think boxers

2406
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 1: give a shit, which will remove the transparency so you

2407
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:44,640
Speaker 1: can't actually see how much money was made in it.

2408
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 4: That's probably the most important thing.

2409
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 3: I don't take these guys to having great financial literacy

2410
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 3: or even a sense of self preservation. All that.

2411
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 1: Well, sorry, we'll see what happens there. Very interesting.

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01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 4: Those are our five topics.

2413
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 1: Now we transition to hearing from you and answering questions

2414
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 1: directly given to us at Morning Combat on Sunday night

2415
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:11,000
Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter. These are dms from donks. All right,

2416
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 1: let's hear what the people have to say today. That

2417
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 1: was a gross sound by the way that Donkey made

2418
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 1: unnecessary completely. Let's put it up on the screen if

2419
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:21,759
Speaker 1: you don't mind. From Christina Pinto BJJ, is that doctor

2420
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 1: Pinto you he was saying, I believe so. The commentators

2421
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 1: made a point to say gait Chee's gloves did not

2422
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 1: have the UFC logo because it came off while warming up.

2423
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 1: Others are speculating that Justin took it off himself as

2424
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 1: retaliation for them Blurry Trevor Whitman's gear on embedded, so

2425
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 1: when they're introvor Whitman's gym, he has that what ONX

2426
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 1: his own glove.

2427
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 3: Someone asked me about this yesterday. I didn't know what

2428
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 3: it was about, Okay, that makes more sense. I wouldn't

2429
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 3: doubt it. I wouldn't doubt it.

2430
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:49,879
Speaker 1: Interesting.

2431
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we're speculating. I have no fucking idea,

2432
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:58,640
Speaker 3: but would that would that strike you as implausible? Does

2433
01:47:58,800 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 3: not strike me as implausible.

2434
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:01,559
Speaker 1: I mean, it was kind of crazy how quickly they

2435
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 1: went to a new glove and then pulled it back,

2436
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 1: like this whole thing has been kind of whiplash, Like

2437
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 1: I want the best decision to have been made in

2438
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 1: the you know, it makes.

2439
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:09,680
Speaker 3: A little bit of sense. But because I remember when

2440
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 3: the UFC was like, Okay, we're gonna move all pay

2441
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 3: per views back to nine PM, and then they did

2442
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 3: it once and they were like, no, fuck that, We're

2443
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:18,080
Speaker 3: right back to ten. They sometimes dip their toe in

2444
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 3: something and then they're like and then they go right back.

2445
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're putting more than their toe, they're putting

2446
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:24,680
Speaker 1: the whole bag in.

2447
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2448
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 1: But honestly, it's not their money. That's that's the key

2449
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 1: part of this. It's not their money, right, So if

2450
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 1: things are.

2451
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 3: Funny, that's right, that's right.

2452
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 1: It's weird.

2453
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 4: That does change.

2454
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 3: Some parts of that absolutely changed a lot.

2455
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:38,920
Speaker 1: Let's go to our next question from a D M. Donker.

2456
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 4: This is from legendary third.

2457
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 3: They got a big old dick.

2458
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 1: Are we in the most boring era of the UFC?

2459
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 1: You should have been with us earlier when we were

2460
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:49,839
Speaker 1: talking about this. He says, we have ballall DDP pana

2461
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 1: and now uncleve.

2462
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:52,680
Speaker 3: Is why is DDP getting thrown there like he's some

2463
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 3: boring fire.

2464
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 1: He's one of the best things they got going right now,

2465
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 1: and none of them are superstars. I miss tr TV tour.

2466
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 1: Who doesn't Uber Eam and Blue choose? John Jones, I

2467
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 1: think you can add that's the gas station dick pills.

2468
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 2: What that is?

2469
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the viagraa that you can chew.

2470
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 3: Thought one more time, more topic we had earlier. Okay,

2471
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 3: Vitor was obviously not American, and neither was Uberin, but

2472
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:16,479
Speaker 3: he spoke English. He was kind of here, and then

2473
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:18,560
Speaker 3: John Jones obvious the American again. Part of it is

2474
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:20,640
Speaker 3: the Americans are just simply not as competitive as they

2475
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:21,600
Speaker 3: once were. That's a part of it.

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01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 1: I think he referenced three particularly juiced up superhero Yeah.

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01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then the other part is they look I

2478
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 3: mean uber em he knows he didn't say overream. He

2479
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 3: says uber Em. Oh, yeah, he just looked apart, like

2480
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,760
Speaker 3: these guys, these heavyweights, now, they don't look much better

2481
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 3: than me.

2482
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:37,599
Speaker 4: The way Ubrin was ripped for the Brock fight.

2483
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 1: Holy holy no.

2484
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:39,519
Speaker 2: No.

2485
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 3: The best one was, do you guys remember when Overream

2486
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 3: left strike Force and the dream Champion he got and

2487
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 3: when he was doing K one at the same time,

2488
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 3: Michael she Evela made a joke that you could screen

2489
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 3: a movie on his back, and I was like, yeah.

2490
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 4: He looked like two thousand and four Barry Bonds.

2491
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:58,000
Speaker 1: Basically, no question. Let's go to the next one from

2492
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:00,040
Speaker 1: these people. Oh, we didn't answer his question because we

2493
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,760
Speaker 1: already did for an hour. Yeah yeahah at flannels and

2494
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 1: just we love this guy. It's probably a creeper wearing

2495
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:07,519
Speaker 1: the same pajama pants all day every day. Do you

2496
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:09,680
Speaker 1: think that the UFC is really going to commit as

2497
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 1: much resources into grappling as they say, And how will

2498
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:15,400
Speaker 1: the impact? How will that impact the current landscape?

2499
01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:17,559
Speaker 3: So they're talking about they said over the weekend they're

2500
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:19,680
Speaker 3: putting by the way, you see Craig Jones kiss the

2501
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 3: other guy.

2502
01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 1: Oh, you'll see it in a minute.

2503
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 3: Okay, So they said they were going to put ten

2504
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 3: to twelve million into professional grappling, which is a significant amount.

2505
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:27,680
Speaker 3: By the way, that Fight Pass Invitational card they had

2506
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 3: last week was great and I didn't get a lot

2507
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:30,880
Speaker 3: of buzz, but it was pretty great. It has some

2508
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:32,640
Speaker 3: interesting results on it. This is what I'm trying to

2509
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 3: explain to people. Dude, They're trying to monopolize all of

2510
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 3: combat sports, and I hope everyone understands. By the way,

2511
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:39,679
Speaker 3: we never talk about this, I'm gonna say real quickly,

2512
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 3: MMA has become monoculture where everybody likes the same things.

2513
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:46,679
Speaker 3: They dress the same, they listen to the same podcast,

2514
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:49,200
Speaker 3: they have the same world views about every everything. It's

2515
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 3: just tra It's just it's just monoculture up and down.

2516
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 3: They'll take that and make grappling monoculture, and they'll take

2517
01:50:56,920 --> 01:51:00,439
Speaker 3: boxing and make it monoculture that doesn't actually make get better.

2518
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 3: I hope everyone understands.

2519
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

2520
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 1: All you casual boxing fans of this pitch that Dan

2521
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 1: is giving you, it's they want they.

2522
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 3: Want to make. They want to make it monoculture top

2523
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:09,559
Speaker 3: to bottom.

2524
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 1: That's soulless, that's lifeless. Next question, This is from at

2525
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 1: MT Booble we love that name. Which past combat sports

2526
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 1: events do you wish m K was around for.

2527
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:24,719
Speaker 3: So pre twenty nineteen? Right, Yeah, Connor's ride and something

2528
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 3: and Rowsy and how about.

2529
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 1: Lewis Smelling two peak World War two? We would have

2530
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 1: torn it about that bait and Mussolini.

2531
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 3: I will say MK would have been perfect for like

2532
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 3: fan Man and Golata and all that ship you know. Oh, yes,

2533
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 3: that would have been That would have been a perfect

2534
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:41,760
Speaker 3: time at.

2535
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 4: The beginning of the McGregor rocket.

2536
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:44,120
Speaker 1: I mean that would have been.

2537
01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:47,639
Speaker 3: I'd say nineties heavyweight boxing madness ye and or Rowsy

2538
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 3: and connor twenty fourteen second.

2539
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:53,360
Speaker 1: Heavyweight run at the top les. Oh, it was like

2540
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 1: pro wrestling comes to like something crazy.

2541
01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 4: Do we have any more from these damn people?

2542
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 1: Yes? At Caeso Fresco one two three favorite breakfast, lunch

2543
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 1: and dinner meals.

2544
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 3: I'm a breakfast burrito guy. I love breakfast burritos.

2545
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm probably at the sausage biscuits and gravy meal

2546
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:17,559
Speaker 1: that you can get, you know, with it with scrambled

2547
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 1: eggs like that. Okay, waffles at like a really great

2548
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 1: place like in downtown Atlanta or somewhere like that.

2549
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 3: Okay, that's pretty much a mentioning black places.

2550
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 1: Now I'm not allowed to enjoy the breakfast in Atlanta.

2551
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 1: Then you were talking about lunch. Are you like an

2552
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 1: old school grilled cheese and tomato soup guy like.

2553
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 10: Me or not?

2554
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 3: I'm not like that at all now, okay, but you

2555
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:40,720
Speaker 3: know what I like. I like noodles for lunch, like

2556
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:43,640
Speaker 3: you know, like a pet tie or something like that.

2557
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:46,719
Speaker 3: And for dinner, I like steak. I like a big steak.

2558
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like a nice meat loaf for a lasagna.

2559
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 2: You know.

2560
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 4: I'll come for a type guy, you know, I take

2561
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:52,640
Speaker 4: comfort and things, you know, and.

2562
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:54,679
Speaker 3: Then for a long lucas just whatever he can inhale

2563
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:55,560
Speaker 3: through the ball, you know.

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01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 6: Yes, hits all day now, bacon, egg and cheese in

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01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:01,840
Speaker 6: the morning of maybe sandwich for lunch and dinner, I'm.

2566
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 3: Going taco bro I'm telling you I love a chop cheese.

2567
01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 3: Holy fuck New York City chop cheese is like amazing.

2568
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 1: All right. I think that's all the questions we have

2569
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 1: from the people, But don't forget. You can reach our

2570
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:14,720
Speaker 1: show at Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Send in your

2571
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 1: videos for our debate earlier about UFC star Power.

2572
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 3: I would love to make that a Friday topic that

2573
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 3: we revisit and like we react to pay and especially

2574
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:24,080
Speaker 3: if you disagree, Yes, especially if you disagree, we would

2575
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:24,880
Speaker 3: love to hear from you.

2576
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 1: Okay, And also send your fans subs, your dead wrongs,

2577
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 1: and if you send them, we'll play them. That's how

2578
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 1: this deal works, unless you, of course, you put a

2579
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 1: picture of your Jena Taylor and there Mikey does not

2580
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 1: deserve that. Our final segment is where I scour the

2581
01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:37,600
Speaker 1: globe on Sundays to try to find these videos that

2582
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 1: are wild. Right, here's here's BC's feces.

2583
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 4: All right, Luke, here we go. I'm trying to get

2584
01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:52,479
Speaker 4: to at least a level. I need an a grade today.

2585
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 3: All right, let's see what you got.

2586
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:55,720
Speaker 1: UFC three thirteen in Las Vegas. Friend of the Show,

2587
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 1: Craig Jones was cage side. I can't show the video, Luke,

2588
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 1: because they'd pull us down. But yeah, he went right

2589
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 1: after that gentleman next to him. Yeah.

2590
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing. If you're ironically gay, what's

2591
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:09,400
Speaker 3: the difference between that and actually being gay? Like, here's

2592
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You can be like, oh, I'm ironically

2593
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 3: fucking dudes, and it's like, yeah, but you're still just

2594
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 3: fucking dudes, you know.

2595
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, what he's doing.

2596
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:20,559
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say, there's no difference between being ironically

2597
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 3: gay and gay. You're just it's just the same thing.

2598
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:24,639
Speaker 4: You're the New Coast.

2599
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm Bryce Mitchell's podcaster. Well, what's going on?

2600
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:30,160
Speaker 3: I'm just joking about, like how far he takes the best?

2601
01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 9: You know?

2602
01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 1: Uh. One of the worst entertainers alive was also at

2603
01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 1: UFC three thirteen.

2604
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 3: Oh my fucking guy, and I saw this. Mikey loves

2605
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 3: this guy and Chrysler I do, by the way, I.

2606
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 1: Mean Long Island.

2607
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 6: The guy is the worst, right, It's funny. I saw

2608
01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 6: him sit in front row and someone said, do you

2609
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:48,880
Speaker 6: think he's gonna take a shirt off?

2610
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 3: He's got one bit it's taking his shirt off. He's

2611
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,880
Speaker 3: the most disgusting man alive. Where's the drive by shooter

2612
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:57,200
Speaker 3: when you need one? Okay, I'm just saying, I'm just

2613
01:54:57,280 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 3: thinking out loud.

2614
01:54:58,440 --> 01:54:58,720
Speaker 5: He is.

2615
01:54:58,960 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 1: Dude.

2616
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 3: If there was ever a question, can you be rich

2617
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 3: and famous without having a shred of talent? Bert Chrysler

2618
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:07,160
Speaker 3: answers that question in the affirmative.

2619
01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Also, we wanted to celebrate and congratulate Robby

2620
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:13,120
Speaker 1: Lawler getting into the Class of twenty twenty five of

2621
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 1: the UFC Modern Wing Hall of Fame. Here's the greatest

2622
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 1: moment in Robbi Lawler's entire career.

2623
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 2: Did you want the rumored Connor McGregor fight to happen?

2624
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:22,240
Speaker 12: Oh?

2625
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:27,840
Speaker 11: I wasn't too worried about it. Obviously that was a

2626
01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:31,240
Speaker 11: big fight. He was a he's a big draw. But

2627
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 11: it wouldn't have been good for him. How so, because

2628
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 11: if I heard him, I wasn't taking his neck?

2629
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 3: What are you gonna take his soul? That was.

2630
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:49,360
Speaker 1: God, that's so bad ass.

2631
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 3: That's the greatest fairness. That was the setup for his

2632
01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 3: fight with Tyrone Woodley, where Woodley eised him in the

2633
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 3: first round. But nevertheless, it's an all time.

2634
01:55:58,000 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 1: He was coming off of those three fights I mentioned

2635
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 1: oc session, he was the baddest ass he ever was

2636
01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:03,960
Speaker 1: the fact that if you've interviewed him and kind of

2637
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 1: know him a little, he doesn't care about.

2638
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 3: So this is this is a true story. So I

2639
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 3: one time worked for you. We talked about this. I

2640
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 3: worked for a promotion in the mid Atlantic in the

2641
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 3: Oughts called you Double Ce Ultimate Warrior Challenge.

2642
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 1: That's where Andrew Tape made his MMA debut, by the way,

2643
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:17,480
Speaker 1: and had like five amateurs.

2644
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 3: Not with the promotion that I was with. I mean,

2645
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 3: they sold their name off to other entities, they used it.

2646
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 6: But trust me, I just want to say that we're

2647
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:26,800
Speaker 6: all sitting here going, yeah, Robbie's so bad.

2648
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:29,320
Speaker 5: Ask Ken who doesn't watch MMA? Goes Man, that was

2649
01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:30,120
Speaker 5: cringe as hell.

2650
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:36,720
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, have you seen Ken? I mean, let's

2651
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 3: let's pump the brakes on the Roger.

2652
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:42,080
Speaker 4: Law needs to become a playable character in this universe.

2653
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 3: I think I don't think he's ready for it. But

2654
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say they hired Matt Hughes and

2655
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 3: Robbi Lawler to be like the guest fighters, and they

2656
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:50,560
Speaker 3: came to the weigh ins because that was part of

2657
01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 3: the process. Robbie Lawler fell asleep at the weigh ins

2658
01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 3: there that he was hired.

2659
01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 1: To damn ghit, so for him to deliver that line

2660
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 1: just naturally, You're just like, that's a cold old motherfucker

2661
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:03,600
Speaker 1: right there. Wow, all right, Hey Logan Paul was in

2662
01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 1: a charity soccer match and got sent to held by

2663
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:06,920
Speaker 1: the announcer.

2664
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:09,520
Speaker 7: Logan is a WWE wrestler and the Trump supporter, which

2665
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 7: could be the first sign of CTA.

2666
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 2: Let's get that.

2667
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 1: Got them there? Wow, Luke, new segment idea. It's called

2668
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:21,160
Speaker 1: would you eat?

2669
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 4: I just need a yes or a no. Let's go

2670
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 4: to the first one.

2671
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 1: This is a restaurant in the UK that specializes in

2672
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:31,880
Speaker 1: bank bank burgers that you dip in. They're called Dorito's

2673
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 1: dip Burgers. First you dip them in the cheese from

2674
01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 1: and then you dip them in the crush Doritos.

2675
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 3: Okay, would you eat?

2676
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 1: Luke?

2677
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 4: Let me see this looks brilliant, this looks genius.

2678
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 3: I would eat?

2679
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why style?

2680
01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 16: Right?

2681
01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Just just getting after.

2682
01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:56,320
Speaker 4: Let's go to the next one, Luke, would you eat?

2683
01:57:57,920 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 4: Kick catch up?

2684
01:57:59,240 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 1: Uh?

2685
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 4: It's Heinz flavored kick Cat.

2686
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:02,760
Speaker 3: I'd rather be fuck to death with an eight?

2687
01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:06,200
Speaker 1: Okay, next one? Please? I think you can maybe find

2688
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:07,760
Speaker 1: this in your Walmart grocer freezer.

2689
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 4: Mike's Hard Dogs. Would you do spiked Frank?

2690
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 3: Can't be real?

2691
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:13,080
Speaker 4: I don't think it is. But would you would you?

2692
01:58:13,320 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay? All right?

2693
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:17,400
Speaker 10: Uh?

2694
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:20,160
Speaker 1: We by the way, have have you always like no Cita?

2695
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:20,480
Speaker 3: Would you do?

2696
01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 1: Over the weekend.

2697
01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:23,080
Speaker 3: We they ignore his girlfriend.

2698
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:36,839
Speaker 1: They caught him at the Islanders game. Watch this money.

2699
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:38,520
Speaker 1: Look at this guy.

2700
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 3: Uh, jive me for the man Condon minute when this

2701
01:58:41,600 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 3: game is over.

2702
01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 6: All right, let's go prest He just snuck the bong

2703
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 6: into the stadium. Also, it was an ill adelf. That's

2704
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 6: a name, Brian Bung. This guy's bringing of Glas.

2705
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't know we had the fucking I didn't

2706
01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 3: know we had the master she fu of bombs bombs

2707
01:58:57,320 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 3: over here.

2708
01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:00,640
Speaker 1: Hey, let's go to the riverside here, Luke. Remember and

2709
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 1: Karate Kid Part two in Okinawa when they did the

2710
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:04,760
Speaker 1: water funeral. Yeah, yeah, it was a real touching moment.

2711
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 1: Have ever been to a water funeral?

2712
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 3: Like, can't say that I have? All right, it was

2713
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:10,640
Speaker 3: one of these dumb horse falling.

2714
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:12,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I wouldn't go that far. I mean,

2715
01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 1: these are morning people there.

2716
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 3: You go right there? Okay, you got to you gotta

2717
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:20,880
Speaker 3: be careful with these rotted out decks.

2718
01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 2: You know.

2719
01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:23,920
Speaker 1: My favorite segment sub segment on here is MMA Fighters

2720
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:27,920
Speaker 1: in the Wild. Here's John Jones at a at A. Yeah,

2721
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:31,480
Speaker 1: there's John Jones right there with Grandma, just getting after it, right,

2722
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 1: that's a lot of ass play right there. Hey, you

2723
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:37,800
Speaker 1: know who might have a big rematch coming up. Sugar

2724
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 1: Sean and Morob who were caught together in the same

2725
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:44,440
Speaker 1: hot tub at the p I like, are you like

2726
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:46,040
Speaker 1: old school enough where you don't want to see two

2727
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 1: guys that are about to fight have friendly moments.

2728
01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:48,560
Speaker 4: I'm kind of like, keep it.

2729
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 1: Ca fabe, you know.

2730
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 3: So there's been a big debate, Like in the NBA,

2731
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, Lebron's era, all these guys were friends. Yeah,

2732
01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:57,000
Speaker 3: they were got for wine after that, obviously not on

2733
01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:59,240
Speaker 3: the same team like Lebron's friends with guys who play

2734
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:01,600
Speaker 3: over the league, whereas in Jordan's day it was like, Yo,

2735
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:03,760
Speaker 3: fuck your mama exactly. I gotta tell you, I'm a

2736
02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:06,280
Speaker 3: little bit more of the your mama also want to

2737
02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 3: have sex with your moms. I'm just saying.

2738
02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 6: They also took a group photo with like ten of

2739
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:11,480
Speaker 6: them in the hot tub, and it's very similar to

2740
02:00:11,560 --> 02:00:13,960
Speaker 6: themar Wait, but did they do it.

2741
02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:15,000
Speaker 3: Like with that in mind?

2742
02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:17,560
Speaker 5: I'm thinking because Mara brought that up in the Prescotts,

2743
02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 5: we had to know, Luke.

2744
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't need to tell you that.

2745
02:00:19,720 --> 02:00:21,960
Speaker 4: The UFC Way and Show is off and off the rail.

2746
02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:23,440
Speaker 3: I love it well, the best things that they do.

2747
02:00:23,720 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 1: You love this.

2748
02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 3: Excited for Pereira. I was so excited. You want to

2749
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:29,640
Speaker 3: see what exite I am for Parreira to it. I

2750
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:31,600
Speaker 3: was so excited for Perreira to fight.

2751
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:32,480
Speaker 2: Do not do that?

2752
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:34,000
Speaker 3: Looks about to get naked.

2753
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:36,160
Speaker 1: I have to wear take down?

2754
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:38,920
Speaker 6: What the hell.

2755
02:00:44,160 --> 02:00:44,800
Speaker 3: You have nipples?

2756
02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 1: It's excitement, man, I mean, that's.

2757
02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:50,240
Speaker 4: That's basically MK material.

2758
02:00:52,040 --> 02:00:54,280
Speaker 3: I feel like Soldier Boy in that clip. They stole

2759
02:00:54,360 --> 02:00:57,840
Speaker 3: off flow bars for bars. That's wild though, that's what

2760
02:00:57,960 --> 02:00:59,960
Speaker 3: we should be doing. But we need a fun house

2761
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 3: stick covers. Yeah, yeah, because I think if we did

2762
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 3: that here they would ask us to leave. Probably probably

2763
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:07,040
Speaker 3: in fairness they'd they'd be in their right to do.

2764
02:01:07,240 --> 02:01:10,480
Speaker 1: Also a bonus boxer in the wild. Here's the comedic

2765
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:14,520
Speaker 1: stylings of Roly. Romero tweeted last week that you've never

2766
02:01:14,720 --> 02:01:19,200
Speaker 1: lied about anything, but really you must have told some

2767
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:22,120
Speaker 1: little white lies. Tell us a lot you have told.

2768
02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:26,480
Speaker 3: Just a two.

2769
02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:28,640
Speaker 1: Hey, bro, you know what.

2770
02:01:30,200 --> 02:01:32,200
Speaker 3: Wasn't he investigated for? Yeah?

2771
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:34,160
Speaker 4: But he was he was found to be. This was

2772
02:01:34,240 --> 02:01:36,160
Speaker 4: he the lady pulled pulled the charges.

2773
02:01:36,240 --> 02:01:38,560
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, we also disturbing.

2774
02:01:38,920 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 4: I don't know what to say about this video.

2775
02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:44,040
Speaker 1: So Dougie Fisher, editor of The Ring, and Turkey Alashi,

2776
02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:46,360
Speaker 1: owner of the Ring, we're having a debate about whether

2777
02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:50,200
Speaker 1: the t k O Boxing League could change your save boxing.

2778
02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:52,400
Speaker 1: They had this debate over Twitter and then they put

2779
02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:53,640
Speaker 1: out this weird video.

2780
02:01:55,960 --> 02:01:56,920
Speaker 3: It's nothing personal.

2781
02:01:57,720 --> 02:02:05,360
Speaker 1: I know, Yo, I'm out on this. I'm out. I'm

2782
02:02:05,400 --> 02:02:06,480
Speaker 1: out on this experience.

2783
02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:08,400
Speaker 3: Did they throw him out of the window after that?

2784
02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:08,840
Speaker 3: I don't.

2785
02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:10,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if he lived, but I'm kind of

2786
02:02:10,600 --> 02:02:12,760
Speaker 1: just I'm kind of just done with I'm like, we

2787
02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:14,360
Speaker 1: had a great run of really fun fights.

2788
02:02:14,360 --> 02:02:15,280
Speaker 4: I'm kind of done now.

2789
02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:18,360
Speaker 3: That was a little much for me. That had isis

2790
02:02:18,440 --> 02:02:21,000
Speaker 3: hostage vibe bits feelings to it anyway.

2791
02:02:21,080 --> 02:02:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, new sport Alert. They call it hot air boxing.

2792
02:02:25,400 --> 02:02:26,000
Speaker 1: Look you into it?

2793
02:02:26,360 --> 02:02:29,800
Speaker 3: Execute everyone involved with this, feed them to alligators.

2794
02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:32,440
Speaker 1: Would you watch power slap if it was on top

2795
02:02:32,480 --> 02:02:34,440
Speaker 1: of a balloon and you knew everyone would dine.

2796
02:02:34,520 --> 02:02:36,560
Speaker 3: Only if they popped the balloon and then everyone had

2797
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 3: to plummet to their death every time.

2798
02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something right there. All right, Hey, check out

2799
02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:43,400
Speaker 1: this painting and watch closer as it gets in there,

2800
02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:45,000
Speaker 1: Burton Ernie.

2801
02:02:45,160 --> 02:02:48,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, look at the calendar.

2802
02:02:49,320 --> 02:02:50,240
Speaker 3: What's wrong with the calendar?

2803
02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:56,120
Speaker 1: Day? September eleventh, two thousand. Who would paint that?

2804
02:02:56,520 --> 02:02:59,280
Speaker 4: That's just ridiculous, dude, I didn't.

2805
02:02:59,320 --> 02:02:59,520
Speaker 9: Wow.

2806
02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 3: I can't believe there's anything I do having lived through

2807
02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:05,400
Speaker 3: that day, I cannot believe there is an entire industry

2808
02:03:05,400 --> 02:03:06,000
Speaker 3: of humor.

2809
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:08,560
Speaker 1: Devoted That's it so sickening, Luke. I also want to

2810
02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:10,080
Speaker 1: say that, do you like when people stand on their

2811
02:03:10,120 --> 02:03:13,040
Speaker 1: business in public and preach it and announce it with

2812
02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:13,960
Speaker 1: what they're all about?

2813
02:03:14,120 --> 02:03:16,320
Speaker 3: Depends I'm trying to say it.

2814
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:19,640
Speaker 1: I hate ass a lot, and I'm like, you're just healthy?

2815
02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:26,840
Speaker 3: And when did you get this video of me? I

2816
02:03:26,920 --> 02:03:28,160
Speaker 3: didn't authorize you to use this?

2817
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 1: Speaking of ass, it is time to get flatulan here, Luke.

2818
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:33,960
Speaker 1: Would you call this a dream toilet? Yes?

2819
02:03:34,040 --> 02:03:37,760
Speaker 2: Or no? Oh?

2820
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:42,520
Speaker 3: I'm tempted to say yes, okay, but I think that's

2821
02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:43,080
Speaker 3: a little gross.

2822
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:45,720
Speaker 6: If we're gonna get nitpicky, though, your nex's gonna hurt

2823
02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:47,280
Speaker 6: so long after watching the TV.

2824
02:03:47,480 --> 02:03:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, the TV, that's right, that's right. The T should

2825
02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:50,360
Speaker 3: be in a different position.

2826
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:52,720
Speaker 4: Is there room for the for the prep to go?

2827
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:53,840
Speaker 1: If you got a cooler under there.

2828
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:56,800
Speaker 4: I don't know about this. Maybe there's a sliding.

2829
02:03:57,440 --> 02:03:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't this. This would not be my

2830
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:02,360
Speaker 3: ideal sense of indoor plumbing. I'll got it that way.

2831
02:04:02,440 --> 02:04:04,840
Speaker 1: Look, do you like flavored chips or just plaine chips?

2832
02:04:05,560 --> 02:04:06,520
Speaker 3: I don't mind a little flavor.

2833
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:28,520
Speaker 1: How about this flavor? All right?

2834
02:04:28,600 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 4: Hey, let's go to the elevator.

2835
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:32,280
Speaker 3: I wonder why so many men are sexless?

2836
02:04:47,680 --> 02:04:48,280
Speaker 6: Can I don't go?

2837
02:04:50,720 --> 02:04:52,480
Speaker 3: That's how I travel through South America.

2838
02:04:54,320 --> 02:05:05,200
Speaker 1: We got one more fart related video for you. You

2839
02:05:05,240 --> 02:05:05,680
Speaker 1: got to give you.

2840
02:05:10,160 --> 02:05:11,920
Speaker 4: I can see you're not into this, Luke.

2841
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:14,040
Speaker 3: One day, I just think all these people should be executed.

2842
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:16,680
Speaker 1: Well, you know people that ended up living in a

2843
02:05:16,760 --> 02:05:18,960
Speaker 1: van down by the river. Do you think sometimes they

2844
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:21,040
Speaker 1: don't realize that they're practicing for a future like that?

2845
02:05:21,880 --> 02:05:24,320
Speaker 4: In fact, toys were different when we were like real

2846
02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:26,160
Speaker 4: little I.

2847
02:05:26,280 --> 02:05:29,120
Speaker 3: Like the beer bottles floating in the in the lake.

2848
02:05:29,200 --> 02:05:29,720
Speaker 3: That's nice.

2849
02:05:29,840 --> 02:05:33,000
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, let's keep it, let's keep the fun going.

2850
02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:34,879
Speaker 1: Next video, Please, your uncle.

2851
02:05:34,720 --> 02:05:35,760
Speaker 2: Died during nine to eleven.

2852
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:39,640
Speaker 3: My fault, I mean, my apologies. It's five big booms.

2853
02:05:44,200 --> 02:05:45,320
Speaker 3: What the fuck was that?

2854
02:05:45,560 --> 02:05:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't know?

2855
02:05:46,120 --> 02:05:46,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2856
02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:54,840
Speaker 1: Let's go to the grocery store though, Oh.

2857
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:58,160
Speaker 3: Big old arrest that piece of ship.

2858
02:05:58,520 --> 02:06:01,360
Speaker 1: Look, you know we love when dirty dancing goes wrong

2859
02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 1: and people don't have the time of their life. I'm

2860
02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:08,040
Speaker 1: sure she's never felt this way before.

2861
02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:11,000
Speaker 3: Oh he's about to just dump her. Here we go

2862
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:12,160
Speaker 3: have a nice day.

2863
02:06:12,920 --> 02:06:19,480
Speaker 1: Oh hello, that's like pulling the tablecloth out right. Wow.

2864
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:21,120
Speaker 3: I give that a nine point nine.

2865
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:23,040
Speaker 1: Wow.

2866
02:06:23,280 --> 02:06:25,440
Speaker 3: That actually was that exceeded my expectations.

2867
02:06:25,480 --> 02:06:28,200
Speaker 1: Now, Luke, I watched the Netflix documentary on Jerry Springer.

2868
02:06:28,360 --> 02:06:31,480
Speaker 1: Was very interesting, but there was way more wild TV

2869
02:06:31,640 --> 02:06:33,600
Speaker 1: beyond that. Check out this old Moury episode.

2870
02:06:33,720 --> 02:06:37,000
Speaker 16: At the worst stomach ache of my life, I figured

2871
02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:38,960
Speaker 16: it was just the corn dogs I have for lunch,

2872
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:41,800
Speaker 16: But when I went to the bathroom to relieve myself,

2873
02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:44,000
Speaker 16: a hand came out of.

2874
02:06:44,040 --> 02:06:48,879
Speaker 1: My betime and Luke, we have footage of that courtesy

2875
02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:54,840
Speaker 1: of WWE. Let's go there please. That's of course, may

2876
02:06:54,960 --> 02:06:59,800
Speaker 1: young remember this great moment pressed history.

2877
02:07:09,280 --> 02:07:12,160
Speaker 3: This could be our last show once again, I'm going

2878
02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:14,520
Speaker 3: to say that, where's a drive by shooter when you

2879
02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:14,920
Speaker 3: need one?

2880
02:07:16,840 --> 02:07:18,920
Speaker 4: Eventually they pull out a giant, gross hand.

2881
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:19,800
Speaker 1: Next video.

2882
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:21,120
Speaker 4: Okay, let's keep it moving here.

2883
02:07:21,200 --> 02:07:21,920
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

2884
02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:23,360
Speaker 3: That is that is one of the worst things I've

2885
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:24,120
Speaker 3: ever seen in my life.

2886
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:26,600
Speaker 1: That was pretty pretty bad. We got two more for you.

2887
02:07:26,720 --> 02:07:30,960
Speaker 1: The kids, they say the darnedest things, right, Luke nice,

2888
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:33,920
Speaker 1: let me say Teddy.

2889
02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:37,640
Speaker 2: Ashton Milton.

2890
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:43,000
Speaker 1: He's about Ashton, He's about that life.

2891
02:07:43,480 --> 02:07:46,800
Speaker 4: And finally, Luke shout out to those jugglers.

2892
02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:50,960
Speaker 1: Here's our guy. He's back. Happy for your line, motherfuckers.

2893
02:07:51,080 --> 02:07:52,480
Speaker 3: This is to be he to show today.

2894
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get hit with fireworks. This is for Chugglascolette, do.

2895
02:07:56,720 --> 02:07:58,120
Speaker 2: Not try this a home hop.

2896
02:07:58,200 --> 02:07:58,560
Speaker 3: You like it?

2897
02:08:01,880 --> 02:08:03,760
Speaker 1: Remember this guy I got bitch chop.

2898
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:14,200
Speaker 7: Ship fu.

2899
02:08:23,600 --> 02:08:23,880
Speaker 11: Shit.

2900
02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:36,960
Speaker 4: That's the ship of the week.

2901
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:39,240
Speaker 1: I hope you saw it, all right, that's great.

2902
02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:42,680
Speaker 3: He does that all the time.

2903
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:43,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

2904
02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:44,920
Speaker 4: He jumps off of ladders onto like.

2905
02:08:45,040 --> 02:08:48,160
Speaker 1: Spikes or barbed wire or whatever and then screams and

2906
02:08:48,280 --> 02:08:50,880
Speaker 1: dies in pain and then you know, finds another thing

2907
02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:51,120
Speaker 1: to do.

2908
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:56,040
Speaker 3: I'm honestly like traumatized watching that.

2909
02:08:56,560 --> 02:08:58,960
Speaker 1: What was worse this or that time the guy had

2910
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:01,360
Speaker 1: the Joseph a Bay crap and then the thing came

2911
02:09:01,400 --> 02:09:04,680
Speaker 1: out of his stomach. And remember that from two weeks ago?

2912
02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:09,000
Speaker 3: Why when did this segment turn into traumatizing me? I'm

2913
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:13,000
Speaker 3: trying to woman giving birth to a hand watch this bitch.

2914
02:09:13,640 --> 02:09:15,680
Speaker 1: All right, that's the show for this week. Thank you

2915
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:19,040
Speaker 1: Long Island Luke for doing your part, and maybe we'll

2916
02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:20,640
Speaker 1: check you out. Are you're gonna be back on that

2917
02:09:20,760 --> 02:09:22,240
Speaker 1: podcast years this week the bank.

2918
02:09:22,520 --> 02:09:25,040
Speaker 6: I'll have bet breakdown out today tomorrow and I'll do

2919
02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:26,200
Speaker 6: a watch along on Saturday.

2920
02:09:26,280 --> 02:09:27,800
Speaker 4: All right, reach out to the show.

2921
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:30,040
Speaker 1: As we mentioned Morning Combat at gmail dot com. Friday.

2922
02:09:30,080 --> 02:09:33,080
Speaker 1: We'll be back eleven am from home, Luke. What do

2923
02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:36,000
Speaker 1: we have this weekend? We got Keith Thurman on Wednesday,

2924
02:09:36,040 --> 02:09:37,320
Speaker 1: by the way, in Australia.

2925
02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:39,800
Speaker 3: That's this Wednesday. Okay, all right, what time is that?

2926
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:41,240
Speaker 3: By the way, I have no idea are you calling that?

2927
02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:41,560
Speaker 10: No?

2928
02:09:41,600 --> 02:09:42,480
Speaker 3: No, no, no, okay.

2929
02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't think PC's maybe on the social maybe on

2930
02:09:45,680 --> 02:09:46,440
Speaker 1: YouTube that running it.

2931
02:09:46,440 --> 02:09:48,480
Speaker 3: I don't think cutting on the chain. And then Saturday

2932
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:50,000
Speaker 3: we have UFC fights. I don't thin there's anything else

2933
02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:50,600
Speaker 3: in the middle of the week.

2934
02:09:51,120 --> 02:09:53,320
Speaker 1: Oh that's victory do leeds two? Right?

2935
02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:55,120
Speaker 5: Is that what you would be the worst part of

2936
02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:58,000
Speaker 5: the year. But yeah, I mean how often do we

2937
02:09:58,120 --> 02:09:59,680
Speaker 5: say We say it?

2938
02:09:59,720 --> 02:10:02,400
Speaker 3: Pretty often? But this one, this one's three hold up

2939
02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:04,000
Speaker 3: before you go, hold on because I want to see

2940
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:05,680
Speaker 3: who's on it. Then we'll then we'll kill the show here,

2941
02:10:05,720 --> 02:10:09,560
Speaker 3: hold on? So okay, Next week is you're right, Victory

2942
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:13,760
Speaker 3: Delize too. So main event victory Delize Comaine Chidi and

2943
02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:16,560
Speaker 3: Jikowani versus Elizu z Leski Dos Santos. That should be fun.

2944
02:10:17,400 --> 02:10:17,520
Speaker 1: Uh.

2945
02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:20,440
Speaker 3: And then choice song Wu taking on Kevin Vallejos who

2946
02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:23,960
Speaker 3: has no Wikipedia entry. Alexander Hernandez is back against Kurt

2947
02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:28,520
Speaker 3: Hollibotts okay, Dumon Black Sheer taking on Cody Gibson. That's okay.

2948
02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:32,720
Speaker 3: I like Cody Gibson. You Sue Young taking on A. J. Cunningham,

2949
02:10:32,720 --> 02:10:35,040
Speaker 3: couldn't pick him out of a lineup. Then you go

2950
02:10:35,120 --> 02:10:38,200
Speaker 3: to the prelims, Waldo Cortez Acosta taking on Ryan Spain,

2951
02:10:39,480 --> 02:10:45,520
Speaker 3: Stephanie Luciano taking on Sam Hughes, dir Neergose taking on

2952
02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:51,440
Speaker 3: Brenson Heberro, Carlos Vera taken on josiahs mu Sasa, Daniel

2953
02:10:51,480 --> 02:10:54,240
Speaker 3: Barez taking on Andre Lima, Josian nuna Is taken on

2954
02:10:54,280 --> 02:10:57,480
Speaker 3: Priscilla Catchuera, and then you Nacy du Been taking on

2955
02:10:57,640 --> 02:11:01,800
Speaker 3: Carly Judas. Okay, that's a real terrible card.

2956
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:05,160
Speaker 5: We could have put Cortez a Costa on the main I.

2957
02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:07,920
Speaker 3: Mean that is that is not a good card.

2958
02:11:08,560 --> 02:11:10,720
Speaker 1: So we have a star problem and a depth problem.

2959
02:11:10,760 --> 02:11:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, what is going on right now? Like, does

2960
02:11:12,640 --> 02:11:14,400
Speaker 1: anyone feel like they're ruining one of the greatest things

2961
02:11:14,440 --> 02:11:16,240
Speaker 1: in your life? They're just slowly ruining it.

2962
02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:19,440
Speaker 3: I guess, well again, put it up one more time.

2963
02:11:19,640 --> 02:11:22,320
Speaker 3: More to combat at gmail dot com. I think for

2964
02:11:22,440 --> 02:11:24,600
Speaker 3: Friday show, because we you know, we'll preview the big

2965
02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:26,839
Speaker 3: fights and because it be the main event is noteworthy.

2966
02:11:27,880 --> 02:11:30,440
Speaker 3: I would love to debate this central question, but with

2967
02:11:30,600 --> 02:11:33,760
Speaker 3: the perspective of fans who don't necessarily feel this way. Yes,

2968
02:11:34,840 --> 02:11:36,280
Speaker 3: I think it'd be actually kind of fun to hear

2969
02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:37,680
Speaker 3: from them. I really really do. I think this is

2970
02:11:37,720 --> 02:11:40,440
Speaker 3: a fun opportunity for you guys, oh Brider Luke where

2971
02:11:40,640 --> 02:11:42,360
Speaker 3: they don't like it when you say that stuff. Okay,

2972
02:11:42,520 --> 02:11:44,320
Speaker 3: now's your chance to tell us why we're missing something.

2973
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, these beav All Benefitez rumors

2974
02:11:47,480 --> 02:11:48,880
Speaker 1: are making me feel different things.

2975
02:11:49,080 --> 02:11:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean this diary is making me feel different.

2976
02:11:51,920 --> 02:11:53,800
Speaker 1: Hey, that's the show for this week. Take care of yourselves.

2977
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 1: We'll see a Friday. Follow us on these channels right

2978
02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:59,720
Speaker 1: here below. And you know we do this because we

2979
02:12:00,040 --> 02:12:02,640
Speaker 1: of you, all right, thank you, and because they paid

2980
02:12:02,640 --> 02:12:04,520
Speaker 1: pretty well, so we'll see you next time, yeah,