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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. Well, there's got to be a morning after,
Speaker 1: and there's also got to be an afternoon after. And
Speaker 1: here we are for another edition of mix Shots. And
Speaker 1: boy do we have a lot to talk about over
Speaker 1: the course of the next forty five minutes. I just
Speaker 1: got one thing to present right off the top. Why
Speaker 1: can't anybody play any defense anymore? My high school team
Speaker 1: gave up fifty seven points on Friday night, My college
Speaker 1: team gave up thirty seven, but it felt like seventy
Speaker 1: seven on Saturday night. And my NFL team, I think
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, well, they could still be scoring if
Speaker 1: they wanted to be scoring. Here we are for another
Speaker 1: week of this. Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Mickey Mickey
Speaker 1: Spagnola inside the WBC Mortgage studios Where the sun came
Speaker 1: up this morning, right, Mickey, I think it did. Yes,
Speaker 1: it didn't come up for the Cowboys. They all guarantee
Speaker 1: you that, especially a defense that gives up forty nine points.
Speaker 1: You know what, I've decided this is probably the most
Speaker 1: absurd season in the most absurd year I've lived. That
Speaker 1: and I think that kind of sums up what took
Speaker 1: place at at and T Stadium on Sunday. You have
Speaker 1: an offense that you know, scores as many points as
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did and nearly scored four games five hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty six yards. Your quarterback throws for five hold
Speaker 1: two and you get beat. You get beat, and boy,
Speaker 1: that got problems on this defense. And I think that's
Speaker 1: probably an understatement. You know what I was hoping. Guys,
Speaker 1: Let's let's make sure that we don't fall into this
Speaker 1: thing of like the weather man. You know, we predict
Speaker 1: something and you get mad at us if you know,
Speaker 1: if it's raining or if things go bad. I want
Speaker 1: to make sure the fans know we're not the weatherman. Okay,
Speaker 1: if we predict something it doesn't happen, don't blame us,
Speaker 1: all right. I don't want to get any letters saying
Speaker 1: that I'm it's with the reason that the Cowboys are losing.
Speaker 1: We are not the weatherman. We are just guys sitting
Speaker 1: up here trying to pull for the Dallas Cowboys, just
Speaker 1: like anybody else. So please don't let us fall into
Speaker 1: that category. See Everson, here's the deal. We're right. They
Speaker 1: just didn't play well enough to make us right, that's all.
Speaker 1: The right, man, they didn't just didn't believe us, that's all.
Speaker 1: They didn't believe us. We believe in them. They don't
Speaker 1: believe in themselves. That's it's it's it's the old gambling
Speaker 1: adage when somebody loses a bet. It's like, no, I
Speaker 1: had the bet right. They just blew the game for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the outcome just came out wrong. Yeah that's all it. Yeah, absolutely, Well,
Speaker 1: what did you guys? I just told you what I thought.
Speaker 1: What do you guys think? You know? Let me say this, guys.
Speaker 1: I you know I'm always the optimistic guy, even more
Speaker 1: optimistic than Bill sometimes when it comes to the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I never picked them to lose. I
Speaker 1: don't care. Even if I was on the if I
Speaker 1: was picking games for that one and fifteen team that
Speaker 1: I was a part of, I probably low. You know,
Speaker 1: I probably still picked the Cowboys for every game. I
Speaker 1: just can't not pick them. My optimism just comes from
Speaker 1: being a Cowboy fans growing up. We all know about
Speaker 1: the comebacks that we've been a part of. I don't
Speaker 1: care if I just quarterback, and I don't care if
Speaker 1: Rombo coincid Carter. It doesn't matter. We always had hope
Speaker 1: of comebacks when everything seemed down. I was probably that
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five team. We brought it up, I think
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago in regards to getting blown
Speaker 1: out twice in nineteen eighty five, forty four nothing by
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears at home. Then we went up to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: They put a fifty spot on us. I think we
Speaker 1: had seventeen. They had fifty plus on us. Yet we
Speaker 1: still came back. What happens, Bags, tell me what happened
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty five. I love to hear you spout
Speaker 1: poetic subas poetics. Somehow somewhere they won the NFC East
Speaker 1: and got into the playoffs after getting spanked that bad
Speaker 1: in two games. Executive games. Maybe we can qualify it
Speaker 1: since the Bears were so good that here they did
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, right, so it's not like you
Speaker 1: you lost to the Cleveland Browns. Hey stop it. We're
Speaker 1: trying to be positive. Positive here, come on, but no,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the kind of thing that just keeps
Speaker 1: me always thinking that there's a light at the end
Speaker 1: of the tunnel tunnel, and that light is not a
Speaker 1: training So I Am going to always be that way,
Speaker 1: and somehow, you know me, as angry as we are
Speaker 1: about the game and as disappointed as we are, I
Speaker 1: still see that light. Well, let me let me go
Speaker 1: here right from the start, because we talked about this
Speaker 1: on Thursday and Friday, and Everson had some idea of
Speaker 1: what they needed to do defensively, because we pointed out
Speaker 1: that Cleveland there was no surprise they were going to
Speaker 1: run the ball. Bill told you they used to fullback.
Speaker 1: I told you they used two tight ends. They were
Speaker 1: going to run the ball. And the Cowboys had not
Speaker 1: played a team yet that wanted to primarily run the football.
Speaker 1: They played teams at three wide. They were in their
Speaker 1: nickel defense. That nickel defense wasn't going to work against
Speaker 1: Cleveland if they went two tight ends, or if they
Speaker 1: went a fullback and basically two wide receivers and a
Speaker 1: tailback and run the football and they could not make
Speaker 1: the necessary adjustment defensively to get the right personnel on
Speaker 1: the field. Now, they tried and you know, Everson gave
Speaker 1: you some ideas of moving the safety up into the box,
Speaker 1: playing single safety high. They tried that sometimes. But what
Speaker 1: they tried to do because they didn't have a legitimate
Speaker 1: strong side linebacker, is they would stand up one of
Speaker 1: their defensive ends the four man front, and then they
Speaker 1: would stand up either Alden Smith or sometimes Dorence Armstrong
Speaker 1: as the strong side linebacker. Well, that didn't work. Those
Speaker 1: guys are defensive linemen, they're not linebacker, and they got
Speaker 1: taken advantage of because number one, they couldn't hold down
Speaker 1: the fort in the middle of that defense, and two
Speaker 1: they weren't holding down the edge on the outside and
Speaker 1: allowed Cleveland to run for a Cowboys opponent franchise high
Speaker 1: three hundred and seven yards and that was with Chubb
Speaker 1: having to leave the game early hurly. If he had
Speaker 1: stayed healthy, they might have run for four hundred yards.
Speaker 1: So to me, it was somewhat schematic. It was somewhat
Speaker 1: the talent they have, and it highlighted the fact that
Speaker 1: they sorely miss Layton Vanderish and Sean Lee being on
Speaker 1: the field at the same time. You know what else
Speaker 1: it shows me, guys, I don't care what your personnel is.
Speaker 1: We've seen it in all types of sports, how you
Speaker 1: lose someone or you might be short at a particular position.
Speaker 1: That we still are able to gain plan because our coaches,
Speaker 1: you know, they were able to see something, They were
Speaker 1: able to find something through weeks and weeks of preparation,
Speaker 1: you know, days and days, hours and hours. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is what we can do. This is going to be
Speaker 1: the lesser of the evil. We may not be able
Speaker 1: to dominate these guys, we may not even be able
Speaker 1: to control them, but we'll come up with something that's
Speaker 1: going to be the lesser of the evil. Tour we
Speaker 1: can hang on enough to give this team a chance
Speaker 1: to win. I have not. I didn't see any any adjustment.
Speaker 1: I didn't see any scheme that was gonna give us
Speaker 1: a chance to stop them. It's like your Bill's high
Speaker 1: school team. I mean, they're just resigned to the fact
Speaker 1: that they're going to give up points. That is not
Speaker 1: the way a professional team, especially a team with this
Speaker 1: kind of talent, should be thinking. Early on, we were
Speaker 1: earlier before the season started, we were all over Will
Speaker 1: McClay and talking about the people that he brought in.
Speaker 1: I still believe that the people he brought in can
Speaker 1: make plays, because we've seen them make plays with other teams.
Speaker 1: So the fact that they're not making them with this one,
Speaker 1: either they're not buying into the game plan or someone's
Speaker 1: not relaying the message correctly, because right now no one
Speaker 1: knows what they're doing. And once you get into not
Speaker 1: knowing what you're doing, frustration sets in and then you
Speaker 1: see that forgive about the term piss poor effort defensively,
Speaker 1: especially on that Beckham end a round play that was
Speaker 1: whether the Cowboys defensively had just succumbed to their own incompetence.
Speaker 1: They just gave up. They didn't even think about trying
Speaker 1: to stop anybody because they were worried about how frustrated
Speaker 1: they were. That's when you lose that team concept. I
Speaker 1: saw that fully and it I'll culminated on that plate
Speaker 1: that end around to Beckham where there's so much to
Speaker 1: get to here, and you know, one of the things,
Speaker 1: just since you brought up how this team was put
Speaker 1: together in the offseason with Will McClay. It was put
Speaker 1: together with the idea that Layton, vander esh and Sean
Speaker 1: Lee would be there and with the idea that Gerald
Speaker 1: McCoy would be upfront in that defensive line as well.
Speaker 1: That's no excuses. Injuries happen in this league. But that
Speaker 1: was a game yesterday when you're going up against a
Speaker 1: team who is intent on running the football. That Shawn
Speaker 1: Lee would have had twenty tackles in that game. And
Speaker 1: he gets the twenty tackles because he can read and react,
Speaker 1: he can get around the big lineman. He's done enough
Speaker 1: film study and he has enough athletic ability to where
Speaker 1: he can get around to the spot that he needs
Speaker 1: to be in to avoid the big offensive lineman to
Speaker 1: make a tackle. You know, And I don't you know
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas. I thought, you know, in his career, Joe
Speaker 1: Thomas has been a backup player and he and I
Speaker 1: think he's shown signs of really playing well, you know
Speaker 1: in uh In when he's had the opportunity here this
Speaker 1: this season as a starter. But but he doesn't have
Speaker 1: the same kind of experience that a Sean Lee has,
Speaker 1: even with a Layton Vanderish. You know, he is, he
Speaker 1: obviously has the athletic ability, but I haven't I haven't
Speaker 1: seen yet in his career him have those games where
Speaker 1: he can just snuff out a team like Sean Lee
Speaker 1: has in the past. Now, I know everyone will say
Speaker 1: he Shan Lee can't stay on the field, But the
Speaker 1: point is, if you go look at Hitch the way
Speaker 1: Sean Lee plays linebacker, that is the way you play
Speaker 1: linebacker in this league. The other part of it is
Speaker 1: when and Mickey you talked about Vague basically went to
Speaker 1: an Oklahoma fifty two defense where they had five defense
Speaker 1: of lineman up on the line of scrimmage to try
Speaker 1: to stop the run. But those ends are either Alden
Speaker 1: Smith and DeMarcus Lawrence, who's not a three four outside linebacker.
Speaker 1: I mean they went to they had three defensive linemen.
Speaker 1: I mean you look at their snap counts and it
Speaker 1: shows with Tristan Hill, don Terry Poe and who am
Speaker 1: I for getting in there? And Antoine Woods and then
Speaker 1: they would rotate Tyrone Crawford in. They basically was three
Speaker 1: four with that fourth they had, whether it be Everson Griffin,
Speaker 1: Alden Smith, DeMarcus Lawrence, Dorence Armstrong as those outside guys,
Speaker 1: and they couldn't well, those guys aren't three four outside linebackers.
Speaker 1: I mean DeMarcus Ware was Anthony Spencer was if you
Speaker 1: go back and look at how Anthony Spencer played as
Speaker 1: a three four outside linebacker, I mean, and he played
Speaker 1: his rear end off every snap of his career. That's
Speaker 1: what you got to have to be able to stop
Speaker 1: the run in this And so from that standpoint, if
Speaker 1: you're going to try to play a three four, they
Speaker 1: don't have it's a they don't have the people to
Speaker 1: run a three four it. So that's where the scheme
Speaker 1: fit doesn't work with the personnel they have. And the
Speaker 1: other thing to accentuate that is if you're gonna play
Speaker 1: that way, then you gotta have a linebacker to be
Speaker 1: able to cover the tight ends. They're tight ends. Caught
Speaker 1: nine passes for seventy one yards and a touchdown. They
Speaker 1: were uncovered the almost the entire game. And Bill, you're right.
Speaker 1: They tried a four man rine with a guy standing
Speaker 1: up to be the strong side linebacker. They tried three
Speaker 1: four with Crawford Woods and don Terry Poe in the middle.
Speaker 1: None of that work. They don't have the personnel, they
Speaker 1: don't have the body types to play that defense, and
Speaker 1: they need to quit forcing it. As far as I'm concerned. Now,
Speaker 1: they may think differently, and who knows, they may come
Speaker 1: up against another team where that's gonna work. But Bill Callahan,
Speaker 1: the former Cowboys offensive line coached offensive coordinator, had their
Speaker 1: number in the running game, and as we know, he's
Speaker 1: missed the running guru, and he gave him a lesson.
Speaker 1: When you talk about the production of the Browns tight ends,
Speaker 1: you know when we did I picked a click. Of course,
Speaker 1: I picked Sheltz for one of my for my guy,
Speaker 1: and it was sued it did. I assumed that with
Speaker 1: us running the ball and with them concentrating on the
Speaker 1: run so much, and eventually that middle is gonna open
Speaker 1: up because those linebacks are gonna be sucked in on Zeke,
Speaker 1: Sheltz could get behind them in the zone. That's what
Speaker 1: I was assuming was gonna happen for us. I did
Speaker 1: not know that that would be what was gonna happen
Speaker 1: for them. That's the kind of thing that kind of
Speaker 1: you know it. You're looking for Beckham, you're looking for Landry,
Speaker 1: and you're looking for them to do their thing, which
Speaker 1: they did. But you didn't think of having a steady
Speaker 1: diet of the tight ends. And I guess we should
Speaker 1: be accustomed to that because really we haven't covered the
Speaker 1: tight end since last year. As far as our defensive
Speaker 1: scheme is concerned. You know, when you talk about this
Speaker 1: defense now, you look at the concerns that we all
Speaker 1: had in Mike Nolan. I didn't know much about Mike Nolan,
Speaker 1: but as we looked back through it, what I saw
Speaker 1: was aggression. I saw aggression in all of the calls
Speaker 1: that he made. And I always assumed that Mike Nolan
Speaker 1: was not effective wherever he went because he just didn't
Speaker 1: have the talent. So what I'm thinking with Will McClay
Speaker 1: coming in signing this talent, and yes, like you said, Bill,
Speaker 1: a lot of them got hurt. We had a lot
Speaker 1: of changes that were unexpected. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: we have a big bitch over there, okay. And we also,
Speaker 1: what I thought, had a coach that would be able
Speaker 1: to adapt, defensive coach that would be the adapt to
Speaker 1: the issues that we have. We had a rush defense problem.
Speaker 1: Before he got here. I assumed that he was going
Speaker 1: to remedy that. It doesn't seem like he has a
Speaker 1: clue on how to do it, especially with the injuries,
Speaker 1: unexpected injuries that his face throughout this off season. And
Speaker 1: once again Bill everyone's got the injuries, everyone's got these
Speaker 1: unexpected things happened, especially with this pandemic. We have to
Speaker 1: be somehow able to come through with that with no excuses,
Speaker 1: if nothing else, just be able to give a bit
Speaker 1: of support to one of the best offenses in the
Speaker 1: NFL right now, Just give us just a smidgen of help,
Speaker 1: and you just be surprised at how we could turn
Speaker 1: three losses maybe into just one loss or just two losses.
Speaker 1: You know, the wet we gotta take a break here.
Speaker 1: But you know the other part of that, as far
Speaker 1: as the this goes to back to Bill Kellahan, to
Speaker 1: the tight ends for Cleveland did a good job in
Speaker 1: the run game blocking two where even though Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: or Joe Thomas just all right. First off, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: did a poor job set in the edge a lot
Speaker 1: of times defensively. But then also those tight ends did
Speaker 1: a good job of blocking the Cowboy linebackers who couldn't
Speaker 1: get out to the outside. You can go back and
Speaker 1: look through the tape and see a lot of that
Speaker 1: going on in this game. So anyway, I mean, as
Speaker 1: it was, and by the way, as you were talking,
Speaker 1: ever since I went back and looked up as this
Speaker 1: was happening. I was thinking, this reminds me of Cincinnati
Speaker 1: a nineteen eighty five and the final score in that
Speaker 1: game was fifty to twenty four, and I looked it up.
Speaker 1: It was thirty six to three early in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: and this, okay, the Cowboys gave up three hundred seven
Speaker 1: yards rushing to Cleveland. Well in that game, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati gave up five hundred eighty three total yards
Speaker 1: in that game, which is a mouthful in nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 1: And that was with two tall Randy and the guys.
Speaker 1: That was the that was the doomsday defense, and it
Speaker 1: was doomsday for us day. Yesterday was doomsday. Let's see
Speaker 1: where it is. Where is okay? Rushing offense for Cincinnati
Speaker 1: that day, they had two hundred and eighty four yards rushing,
Speaker 1: so they were they were coming close to three oh seven.
Speaker 1: So that's when I had, That's when I had. Montoya
Speaker 1: was was in my face thirty yards down the field
Speaker 1: and I couldn't even see Brooks behind him. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to keep myself alive and see the running back behind him,
Speaker 1: and Brooks was just running all over the place. And yeah,
Speaker 1: that you know here Cowboys. Hey, and you know who
Speaker 1: the Cowboys played the next week, New York Giants. They
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Speaker 1: to do that on game days, right, No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed on those sidelines, even if I'm masked up,
Speaker 1: and you know the rest of us. I did a
Speaker 1: very good job in the press prox of keeping my
Speaker 1: mask on. The people in the stands not so much.
Speaker 1: And I suggested in my in my column today that
Speaker 1: instead of pull on their masks down, they should have
Speaker 1: pulled them up over their eyes so they didn't have
Speaker 1: to watch that. That's funny. I like that, you know,
Speaker 1: what I want. You know. You know, at one point
Speaker 1: I made that comment. I was watching the game here
Speaker 1: at home with my wife, and we were talking about
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy and and about that time, they showed a
Speaker 1: shot of McCarthy on the sideline and it looked like
Speaker 1: he had his mask up so high. I said, I said,
Speaker 1: I told my wife, he's about to pull that mask
Speaker 1: up over his face so he didn't have to watch
Speaker 1: this stuff. Well, it's so interesting now because of course
Speaker 1: this is such a seamless transition we want. We didn't
Speaker 1: want a seamless transition, Okay. I didn't want Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: to make me feel like Jason Garrett is still here. Okay,
Speaker 1: we wanted to feel different about this season. So of
Speaker 1: course all the people are talking about, hey, bring back
Speaker 1: Jason Jarrett. Got Jason hanging out of a train like
Speaker 1: a like a happy dog out of a car, laughing
Speaker 1: at us with our incompetence. If it wasn't for the
Speaker 1: fact that they're so incompetence in New York as well,
Speaker 1: I think he would be. But I was thinking, okay,
Speaker 1: defensively is the issue? Uh, what about bringing back Chris Rashard?
Speaker 1: Anybody anybody, Ron Marinelli, everybody was ready to get rid
Speaker 1: of Yeah, anybody, anybody, anybody. I want to bring back
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath. Oh, yes, bring it back Heath. Please? Where's
Speaker 1: Heath right now? We heard I got a note even
Speaker 1: last week on periscope, but they were saying that about
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath. You know. But seriously, though, Jim Tumsila, the
Speaker 1: defensive line coach, is one of the most respected defensive
Speaker 1: line coaches in the National Football League. H you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's just a question of of figuring out how
Speaker 1: they can how they can fix this thing in a hurry,
Speaker 1: and truthfully, with the Giants coming in here this week,
Speaker 1: that's going to help fix the problem. Okay, But long term,
Speaker 1: they've got to look at themselves and they have to
Speaker 1: figure out It's just like what Mike McCarthy said in
Speaker 1: one of his opening meetings with the media back in
Speaker 1: late January or February, when he's talked about getting players
Speaker 1: that fit a scheme, He's not. He doesn't. He's not
Speaker 1: looking for players in regards to the draft or free
Speaker 1: agent acquisition. He's not looking for players to fit a
Speaker 1: particular scheme. We can have a scheme fit the players,
Speaker 1: and so that as we are now a quarter of
Speaker 1: the way through this season is what these coaches have
Speaker 1: to figure out is what works best for the players
Speaker 1: that you have on hand here, you know, I get.
Speaker 1: I think also the difference what we're dealing with, guys
Speaker 1: is in the beginning of the season. Last year, we
Speaker 1: were like the widget of Oz. You know, we didn't
Speaker 1: know what was behind the curtain. We didn't realize how
Speaker 1: incompetitive we really were starting off three and old. We
Speaker 1: don't have that problem this time. We know exactly how
Speaker 1: bad we are. We know how bad we are early on.
Speaker 1: So the only saving grace for that is maybe we
Speaker 1: can make the adjustment before it's too late and we
Speaker 1: aren't fooling ourselves about how good we are or how
Speaker 1: bad we are. You know, I get the feeling. Defensively,
Speaker 1: it just feels like they're playing catch. They're not attacking.
Speaker 1: They're playing catch. They're they're they're letting them come to them,
Speaker 1: and they're not creating any problems for the opposing offense.
Speaker 1: I mean, Baker Mayfield, he threw for one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty five yards, right, he didn't have to throw for more.
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking if a quarterback throws for one sixty five.
Speaker 1: I should be able to win that game and not
Speaker 1: give up forty nine points. The other thing that keeps
Speaker 1: coming up is, well, we get off to these slow starts.
Speaker 1: It's like slow starts. You were up fourteen to seven,
Speaker 1: it was fourteen to seven at the end of the
Speaker 1: first quarter. There wasn't a slow start. But then here
Speaker 1: comes the turnovers. You got an undrafted rookie starting at
Speaker 1: right tackle who struggled last week supposedly because he was sick,
Speaker 1: up against Miles Garrett, and you leave him out there
Speaker 1: on an island. So what happens predictably, right, Garrett comes
Speaker 1: in and gets a stripped sack and they recover a
Speaker 1: fumble that's not and Dad continues to fall on his
Speaker 1: sword like that's my problem. No, they left that poor
Speaker 1: kid out there by himself, and until it happened twice.
Speaker 1: Then they made the move to Brandon Knight. Things somewhat
Speaker 1: settled down. But if you notice, they had Zeke going
Speaker 1: over there and chipping a heck of a lot. They
Speaker 1: had a tight end Blake Bell over there a heck
Speaker 1: of a lot to make sure that and continue to happen.
Speaker 1: So you turn the ball over there, it ends up
Speaker 1: a touchdown the other way. Then the next time you
Speaker 1: get the ball, Zeke's running really well, right, and where
Speaker 1: this thing happens, and I don't know if he thought
Speaker 1: he was down, but he was down on the guy's helmet.
Speaker 1: He had but had not hit the ground. And the
Speaker 1: guy comes in over the top and knocks the ball out.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he relaxed or what. But do
Speaker 1: you get a fumble there, a weird one, and what happens?
Speaker 1: They go and score and then the other turnover we
Speaker 1: talked about it already where Amari Cooper didn't run his
Speaker 1: route correctly. He's at the four yard line. They're gonna score,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be down by what three again if
Speaker 1: they get another two point conversion, which, by the way
Speaker 1: I looked it up, they had three two point conversions
Speaker 1: in that fourth quarter. The season record for converting two
Speaker 1: points two point conversions and club history is three for
Speaker 1: the season. They did it in one quarter, right, and
Speaker 1: so who knows they're gonna go back in school. They're
Speaker 1: down forty one to fourteen, and the next thing we know,
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, it's a three point game. It's
Speaker 1: a three point game. There were no more miracle water
Speaker 1: watermelon kicks, right, but still they had they had a
Speaker 1: race that deficit. Think about that, a twenty seven point deficit,
Speaker 1: and they erased it and there were still three minutes
Speaker 1: and something to go. So that's got to be the
Speaker 1: frustrating thing that your offense. And right now they're sitting
Speaker 1: and I what unless something weird happens tonight. In those
Speaker 1: two games, they're turnover differentials minus seven minus seven after
Speaker 1: four games. That's incredible, and some of them are weird turnovers,
Speaker 1: but it's doing them in offensively because without those turnovers,
Speaker 1: they might have six hundred total yards because no one
Speaker 1: can stop them. They just stopped themselves. I gotta say,
Speaker 1: guys that with that play action pass you were talking
Speaker 1: about spags, Yeah, you have to double clutch that. You
Speaker 1: have to double clutch that. That was the whole point.
Speaker 1: You want to make a guy bite because the play
Speaker 1: action and we're gonna try and hit the man deep.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, that was going to be a
Speaker 1: deep pass down the sideline. Yeah, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if the guy was open or not. But when you
Speaker 1: have a play action, the quarterback must have protection. It's
Speaker 1: just no doubt about it. And you've got to hold
Speaker 1: a little bit longer because you're trying to let the
Speaker 1: play action play developed down the field, so you must
Speaker 1: hold onto the ball a little bit longer. Otherwise you're
Speaker 1: just looking at the hot rounds and it's just you
Speaker 1: talked about Zeke's fumble. The weirdness with this that is
Speaker 1: our m going all the way back to last year.
Speaker 1: There's always something just you know, just a street turn.
Speaker 1: It's just stupid. They'll just see stupid things happening that
Speaker 1: really always lead to our demise. We could have told
Speaker 1: a weird story in almost every big loss last year
Speaker 1: and now going up into this year, and my last
Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna say on this, I think this is
Speaker 1: really it sounds funny, but I think we should really
Speaker 1: start thinking about it. Whenever we're down, we are unstoppable.
Speaker 1: When we go with pace, we do right. We go
Speaker 1: with pace and no one can stop us. How about
Speaker 1: revisiting nineteen ninety and just turn into the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: Let's just go no huddle as our game plan period.
Speaker 1: Let's just line up, call plays at the line and
Speaker 1: make it work. Because when you keep your pedal down
Speaker 1: on any defense. I don't care how good or bad
Speaker 1: they are, They're gonna continue to feel that pressure over
Speaker 1: and over again, the way the Buffalo Bills were doing
Speaker 1: with Jim Kelly, Andre Reid, James Lofton, Thurman Thomas. To me,
Speaker 1: that seems to be our only alternative if we're gonna
Speaker 1: keep going down this defensive rabbit hole, because at this point,
Speaker 1: our offense is the best we have. We've got some
Speaker 1: good special teams plays going as well, but I think
Speaker 1: offensively we just need to keep the pedal down the
Speaker 1: entire game. It's happened before. It's not anything that's unusual,
Speaker 1: it's it's we've seen it work. They made it all
Speaker 1: the way to the super Bowl, they just and they
Speaker 1: almost won. So as far as I'm concerned, our offense
Speaker 1: is that's our only saving grace for this team is
Speaker 1: to just go straight up offense and just look for
Speaker 1: defense to pitch in whenever they think they can. And
Speaker 1: that's the way the Buffalo Bills did it, and every soon.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, does this Cowboys team have
Speaker 1: a Bruce Smith or Cornelius? I know you were going here, William,
Speaker 1: I knew you were going there. Sir, there's the answer is.
Speaker 1: The answer is no. But we are one in three guys,
Speaker 1: and we can't keep waiting like we did last year
Speaker 1: and be all optimistic and rosy color and go, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna pull out of it. Look at the way
Speaker 1: offense is playing. Oh, we've just got a couple of
Speaker 1: weird plays. To take out those weird plays, people get no, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not waiting. I'm not waiting. We need to make
Speaker 1: a move. We need to make a move, and right
Speaker 1: now we need to go with our strength, our strength
Speaker 1: as offense and special teams, and let's just let the
Speaker 1: defense pitch in whenever they feel like it. Half games
Speaker 1: more I try. That's right. What were they saying in
Speaker 1: Philly last night last year? What were they saying in
Speaker 1: my village? What were they saying in Philly? Within six
Speaker 1: minutes left in the game last night, Okay, they're trailing,
Speaker 1: they're going to be in eleven, They're about to be
Speaker 1: oh three and one, and within five minutes there in
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Speaker 1: when are we hearing from coach today? I haven't seen
Speaker 1: the email at The coach is starting at four thirty
Speaker 1: and the coordinators after that. Okay, that's why you have
Speaker 1: a tie on today. Right, I've got TV done some
Speaker 1: and have some to do, so I wasn't going to
Speaker 1: change three times today. Absolutely, you want me to give you,
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a quick mix shot here. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's why why we call it mix shots. So the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have already given up in four games six hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety yards rushing, right they are on pace to
Speaker 1: give up two thousand and seven hundred and sixty yards rushing.
Speaker 1: The franchise record for opponents against the Cowboys is two thousand,
Speaker 1: six hundred and thirty six in the year of two
Speaker 1: thousand that they finished five and eleven. So their pace
Speaker 1: right now is like one hundred and forty some yards ahead.
Speaker 1: Of the all time worst season the Cowboys have had
Speaker 1: against the run, and when it comes to points, they
Speaker 1: are on pace to give up five hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: four points five hundred and eighty four. The franchise record
Speaker 1: for most points given up in a season is four
Speaker 1: thirty six. And guess what year that happened? In twenty
Speaker 1: ten when they went six and ten and lost their
Speaker 1: head coach at the halfway point. Started that year one
Speaker 1: and seven. Yeah, the head coach didn't make it to
Speaker 1: this matter of fact, no Phillips. In twenty ten it
Speaker 1: was Waite Phillips, but in two thousand it was two
Speaker 1: thousand or old one two thousand, Dave Campbell's first year.
Speaker 1: And get this, so in four games, four straight games,
Speaker 1: they've given up one hundred and forty six. In that
Speaker 1: twenty ten season they had forced the last four of
Speaker 1: those first games, they gave up one hundred and forty five.
Speaker 1: And the worst four game stretch I could find. Now
Speaker 1: it's my research, and I kind of went through page
Speaker 1: by page and looked for big scores. I found out
Speaker 1: that the most points they'd give it up in any
Speaker 1: four game stretch at any point in the season was
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty and it was game six through
Speaker 1: nine in nineteen sixty. I'm so glad there wasn't the eighties.
Speaker 1: I was just waiting to hear one of my years.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad because I've been through them. When you
Speaker 1: think about that's one thing you about being on the podcast,
Speaker 1: you know everything is out there. Your past just comes
Speaker 1: back to haunt you. Remember the Walter Payton days when
Speaker 1: we had to go up against him, and even though
Speaker 1: we were kicking their butts, Walter Payton just had a
Speaker 1: field day on us. I remember Bob Brunik never could
Speaker 1: find him no matter where he went. And this is
Speaker 1: a flex defense that's designed to beat Jim Brown, so
Speaker 1: you could just imagine how good Walter Payton had to be. Also,
Speaker 1: I never forget how many yards Eric Dickerson averaged on us.
Speaker 1: So we had to go up against Eric Dickerson not
Speaker 1: only in the playoffs, but also in the regular season.
Speaker 1: I believe he averaged over two hundred yards against the
Speaker 1: famed flex defense and doomsday defense. So yeah, been through it.
Speaker 1: I know exactly what they're going through. But one thing
Speaker 1: that we were always able to do make the adjustments.
Speaker 1: That's what we always did. We made the adjustments. So
Speaker 1: that's what I'm waiting on this coaching staff to do.
Speaker 1: You know, sure this thing up, realize what the problem is,
Speaker 1: and don't be known for repeating the same mistake over
Speaker 1: and over again. That's one thing we were good at
Speaker 1: back in the eighties. Okay, one moment early in the game,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was a genius. Cowboys faced fourth and two
Speaker 1: at the Cleveland twenty yard line and he decides to
Speaker 1: go for it. Fourth and two from the twenty yard
Speaker 1: line in a tie game, seven to seven, with two
Speaker 1: just over two minutes to play in the first quarter,
Speaker 1: and he went for it, and he was a genius
Speaker 1: for it, because Dak Press got through a fastball that
Speaker 1: somehow got between two defenders and Amari Cooper in the
Speaker 1: end zone for a Touchdow, are you surprised that they
Speaker 1: went for it? And that's right, want to play by Dak.
Speaker 1: I didn't notice that. I thought it was interesting that
Speaker 1: I think there was a time out right before there
Speaker 1: was a timeout. Cowboys called time out right before it,
Speaker 1: and McCarthy talked with Fossil on the sideline, and I
Speaker 1: was wondering at the time if whatever Hash mark they
Speaker 1: were on or whatever. Something was going on zer Line
Speaker 1: and one of the reasons, but obviously there was nothing
Speaker 1: going on with zer Line. He was fine kicking the
Speaker 1: rest of the day. They just decided to go for it,
Speaker 1: and Dak came through it with a huge I mean
Speaker 1: that was I'd like to have the radar gun speed
Speaker 1: on that fastball. I think. I think even Cooper was
Speaker 1: surprised that he walked in the ends on with that one.
Speaker 1: The cameraman missed it. Everyone missed it except for Dak
Speaker 1: and Coop. That was good stuff. Yeah, the two dbs
Speaker 1: missed it too, right, It looked like it was going
Speaker 1: to get it stutiful. He had a couple of passes
Speaker 1: like that where it looked like they were going to
Speaker 1: get intercepted. They got tipped. He had one to Shultz
Speaker 1: like that too. I thought it was a sure touchdown,
Speaker 1: and I think it might have been. Zendejo came flying
Speaker 1: through and broke up the paths. There was a little
Speaker 1: beyond Zendejoe's reach. Yeah, yeah, DA needs to be DA
Speaker 1: needs to be careful in games like this, and there
Speaker 1: will be others like this to where you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: he was just on automattic pilot. And let's face it,
Speaker 1: these guys as much as he was threading the needle
Speaker 1: on a lot of these pass says there should have
Speaker 1: been at least two that could have been intercepted. Was
Speaker 1: one that ended the game? Yeah, well he could have.
Speaker 1: I would say there were three passes throughout the course
Speaker 1: of the game, especially in the second half, where I
Speaker 1: thought they should have intercepted them. And so he needs
Speaker 1: to be a little careful because I know the pressures
Speaker 1: armed them to make every play. And no, not surprised
Speaker 1: that he went for it. Bill, because of the lack
Speaker 1: of defense that we're playing, We're gonna go for it
Speaker 1: a lot on fourth down. We might as well get
Speaker 1: accustomed to it. And I have to say I admire
Speaker 1: the guts to do it because I'm not gonna sit
Speaker 1: back if I'm McCarthy, I'm not gonna sit back like
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett did and just wait on guys to make
Speaker 1: plays in a traditional manner. I'm gonna force the issue
Speaker 1: as a head coach, all right, I need to get
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks take on the touchdown, the Beckham touchdown in
Speaker 1: second of the days, got it go ahead, SPACs. I'm
Speaker 1: looking it up. I'm trying to remind myself, I want
Speaker 1: the cornerback. I want the cornerbacks. Uh, you know a
Speaker 1: point of view on this one. It's at your SPACs. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: Daryl Worley defending Odell Beckham one on one on the
Speaker 1: touchdown that tied the game at fourteen. Mister cornerback. What
Speaker 1: happened there? Well, you know, things just happened. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a great pass by the way, you're talking
Speaker 1: about the pass from Landry correct, No, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Mayfield play fate and uh it was in
Speaker 1: four yard passed on the goal line and Daryl Worley's
Speaker 1: playing off Beckham and it was just a slant middle
Speaker 1: of the end zone. Now, well, you know at that point,
Speaker 1: I don't think he even thought he had a chance
Speaker 1: because he played scared. You know, when you when you're
Speaker 1: on the goal line, this feast of famine. You know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even mind the PI in that position. You
Speaker 1: must get your hands on these guys because everything is
Speaker 1: a timing route. We have that route as well in
Speaker 1: our package, and I think we're almost one when we
Speaker 1: do the play action and we draw the safety in
Speaker 1: and you put the slat behind them. That's easy work.
Speaker 1: I have to say, forget that one bill. That's nothing
Speaker 1: compared to the lack of effort by the entire secondary
Speaker 1: on the end a round when you take a look
Speaker 1: at what happened on that play. To me, okay, schemes
Speaker 1: are one thing. Being beat is another. I got beat
Speaker 1: a lot when I played, but it was never because
Speaker 1: I gave up. And when you think of a running
Speaker 1: player or passing play, they were looking for Beckham to
Speaker 1: go out of bounds. The secondary was hoping Beckham went
Speaker 1: out of bounds on that end a round. And as
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, guys, that right there back in
Speaker 1: the day, and I know I'm sounding like an old man,
Speaker 1: get off my lawn, that kind of crap. But when
Speaker 1: you give a piss poor effort like that, that would
Speaker 1: get you, that would get you replaced back in the eighties.
Speaker 1: And you know, uh, Jimmy Johnson did not play that crap.
Speaker 1: If you show a lack of effort like that, guys,
Speaker 1: they had just given up. They were hoping that he
Speaker 1: went out of bounds, as opposed to forcing him to
Speaker 1: go out of bounds. And it looked at all you
Speaker 1: saw was cowboy defenders going out of bounds, Beckham cutting
Speaker 1: it back easily and doing what he did. That was
Speaker 1: just a shame to me. Let me let me point
Speaker 1: out also on that play as it started and when
Speaker 1: they I think they were in a cover three because
Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs was off the line of scrimmage quite a bit.
Speaker 1: And when he when Odell got around Alden Smith, who
Speaker 1: was within what a yard of bringing them down for
Speaker 1: a fifteen yard loss. What happened was that yard, Well,
Speaker 1: he was the guy setting. He was the guy setting
Speaker 1: the edge on the left side, and he shot in.
Speaker 1: So now there's no one there right the linebackers got
Speaker 1: caught up in the muck. And when he turned the corner,
Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs took a step back and he tripped on
Speaker 1: the turf. No I thought he got blocked. He tripped
Speaker 1: on the turf, fell backwards on his butt, and then
Speaker 1: he got up and in his anxiety to get to
Speaker 1: the sideline, if you watch, he flew right by him.
Speaker 1: He went to make the tackle and he flew right
Speaker 1: past him, but he tripped. So you had your other
Speaker 1: guy on the left side, and he's not there because
Speaker 1: he fell down, and no one blocked him. And it's
Speaker 1: like just one thing after another after another. And you
Speaker 1: know the other I thought, when you brought up the
Speaker 1: touchdown pass, it looked like that whirl he gave it
Speaker 1: up the one to the tight end that wasn't his guy,
Speaker 1: that Donovan will Wilson. Worly was trying to get Donovan
Speaker 1: Wilson's attention, and he was close to the line to
Speaker 1: the clothes and he's to spread out, right, And then
Speaker 1: they had three guys come out, and Worly had his
Speaker 1: choice of one right, and he that was supposed to
Speaker 1: be the safety's guy. You know now Wilson, right, Wilson
Speaker 1: though Wilson, though I given credit he that was his
Speaker 1: first extended play in the NFL, and he ended up
Speaker 1: I think it was second on the team and tackles.
Speaker 1: I think that we may see that more now that
Speaker 1: he'll be the guy at the other safety position. But
Speaker 1: I thought for the first time extended play, I thought
Speaker 1: he played pretty well. But again, it was almost like
Speaker 1: the week before. There's confusion on the line of scribbage
Speaker 1: and coverage inside the five yard line. All right, we're
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