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Speaker 3: Pretty good man? Fired up to talk over the next

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Speaker 3: three hours. Draft crazy season of lies is beginning. We're

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Speaker 3: starting to see some weird trades, some weird moves happening,

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Speaker 3: some things that we weren't talking about a couple of

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Speaker 3: weeks ago. And yeah, March is here, which means the

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Speaker 3: madness is right around the corner. And the NBA, hey,

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Speaker 3: that's a marquee matchup that they had tonight with Boston

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Speaker 3: in La. I mean that's that's exactly what you want.

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Speaker 3: And that's what Charles Barkley would think too. I imagine, Well.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you. I just wanted to know.

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Speaker 2: You know, will you be telling your grandkids about March A,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, the night that the greatest two week

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Speaker 2: dynasty in the history of the NBA just ended. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I've been told by everybody in Charles Barkley seemed to

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Speaker 2: insinuate the same thing that I mean now that the

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Speaker 2: Luker the Lakers had Luka Doncic, I mean, they were unbeatable.

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Speaker 2: In JJ Reddick, he had all these schemes, and Lebron

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Speaker 2: he's playing like he's twenty four again. Listen, I'll be

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Speaker 2: quick and I want to throw it to you for

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Speaker 2: your take. By the way, Disager did just tell you.

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Speaker 2: But it is a final in Boston. The Celtics do

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Speaker 2: get a win. Celtics were a pretty big in the

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Speaker 2: third quarter. Uh, Lakers made a run, but Celtics do

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Speaker 2: win one eleven, one oh one. Jason Tatum with forty

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Speaker 2: for the fourth time this season. Yeah, so I guess

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Speaker 2: I want to throw it over to you. But the

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Speaker 2: bottom line is this is that we've talked about the

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Speaker 2: Lakers awesome season, awesome story. But I just go back

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Speaker 2: to what we said last week. Is that listen the

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Speaker 2: last two coaches that have coached Lebron, Darvin Ham ind

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Speaker 2: a Western Conference finals. Two years ago, Frank Vogel won

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Speaker 2: an NBA title. So to me, listen, what Lebron is

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Speaker 2: doing at forty years old, we will probably never see again.

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Speaker 2: Luca is a top five player in the league that

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Speaker 2: you and I both don't understand how he's even a

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Speaker 2: Laker to begin with. But it has felt like it's

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Speaker 2: great that they've gone on a little nice run here,

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Speaker 2: but it has felt a little bit like maybe the

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Speaker 2: media wants them to be a little bit better than

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Speaker 2: they actually are. Does that feel fair to say? Jason Martin?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And look, I don't blame them for wanting them

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Speaker 3: to be good because they know that it's good for them.

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Speaker 3: It's like when Dallas is good or when they're really bad,

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Speaker 3: that's usually good in the NFL for the talking heads,

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Speaker 3: that's good for the people in our industry. When the

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Speaker 3: Lakers are good or when they're terrible, that can be

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Speaker 3: interesting as long as there's something there in terms of

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Speaker 3: a storyline. So I can understand it to a degree,

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Speaker 3: but you and I talked about this last week and

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Speaker 3: nothing has changed with me. They're playing well, but let's

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Speaker 3: calm down the reason tonight happened. I mean, yeah, look,

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Speaker 3: they've been on quite a streak over this last couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks, and they deserve to have some flowers given

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Speaker 3: to him, no question. But Boston's a defending champion, and

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Speaker 3: they're better, They're deeper, they have more talent, they have

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Speaker 3: more experience playing together. You saw tonight what it looks like,

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Speaker 3: Lebron Luca combined for let's see, fifty six points. It

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Speaker 3: wasn't a great night for Lebron, but he played thirty

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Speaker 3: five minutes in a game. But you look at the

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Speaker 3: on the flip side, Tatum gave you forty and jaymen

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Speaker 3: Brown gave you thirty one, So they scored seventy one together.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna be able to win because outside, like,

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Speaker 3: and that's the problem. Like when you get into the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: you need more than just some guys. Look, I've been

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Speaker 3: impressed with the way that they've played. Do I think

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Speaker 3: they can win a championship? No? I don't. Could I

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Speaker 3: be wrong, absolutely, But I won't be betting on the

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Speaker 3: Lakers are gonna go win no matter what they do.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I need to see this last I mean,

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Speaker 3: Luca has dealt with some injuries, Lebron is old, Lebron

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Speaker 3: looked pretty gased tonight, thank you, and he's gonna have

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Speaker 3: it at the wrong time when they can't afford to

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Speaker 3: lose in the playoffs. They've already been better this year

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Speaker 3: than I thought they were, and Reddick deserves a lot

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Speaker 3: of credit. He's done a very nice job there. This

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Speaker 3: is not let's crap on the Lakers for the next hour.

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Speaker 3: It is to say, though, can we be objective about

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Speaker 3: h This is interesting. Let's see where this goes as

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Speaker 3: opposed to they're gonna win it all. They've got every

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Speaker 3: piece we told you. Look at this like what changed?

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Speaker 3: Like who's playing defense? But seriously, just answer the question,

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Speaker 3: what's different about what we're seeing right here and what

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Speaker 3: we're seeing in Phoenix over the last couple of years

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Speaker 3: when you got Kevin Durant and then when you got

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Speaker 3: Bradley Beal, but you already had Booker and gave up

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Speaker 3: defense in order to do it. Well, what did the

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Speaker 3: Lakers do Well? They acquired Luka Doncic and they gave

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Speaker 3: size on the inside. And I'm not saying I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: have done that. I'm just saying, if we've seen this

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Speaker 3: are we just completely losing our objectivity? And I think

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Speaker 3: that's what it is. It's just we and I mean

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Speaker 3: because it's good for our business.

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Speaker 2: So he basically took the words are out of my mouth?

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Speaker 2: Is you know the reason? First of all, I will say,

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Speaker 2: I agree. I think JJ Riddick's been awesome. You know, Listen,

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Speaker 2: clearly Lebron believes in him, which is most important. By

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Speaker 2: the way, we should mention Lebron did leave the game

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Speaker 2: with a groin strain tonight. We will see if there's

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Speaker 2: any updates before we get off air. You know, he

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Speaker 2: is forty years old. Stuff is going to happen. Hopefully

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Speaker 2: it's nothing that's going to be lingering. But no, I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is my thing with the Lakers, and it's exactly

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Speaker 2: what you just said. Is that listen, I understand it's new.

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Speaker 2: It's certainly interesting because we're gonna listen to what Mark

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Speaker 2: fifteen twenty minutes and even Mark Cuban can't explain the trade.

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Speaker 3: So it's new.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting. It's the Glamour franchise, it's the Glamour player

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Speaker 2: of the last twenty years. I get all of it.

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Speaker 2: What I will also say, and I don't want to

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Speaker 2: interesting story the NBA has had in a while. I

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Speaker 2: just keep going back to exactly what you said, J

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Speaker 2: mart Is, is just the idea that, first of all,

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Speaker 2: Lebron He's amazing, Okay, and this is not crap on

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Speaker 2: Lebron because they lost the Celtics, the defending champ, but

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Speaker 2: it's also I go back to that Western Conference Finals

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Speaker 2: two years ago, and I've said it time and time again.

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Speaker 2: If you watch those games, he was great for a half,

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Speaker 2: he was great for two and a half quarters, and

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Speaker 2: he would wear down at the end of every single game.

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Speaker 2: Luka Doncic. Why in theory was he traded from the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks because he wore down and they didn't think

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Speaker 2: he could finish a playoff run. And so I just

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Speaker 2: I think that one you absolutely have to get the

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Speaker 2: that goes without saying, you have to have it for

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Speaker 2: four rounds. And then, like you said, what else are

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Speaker 2: they surrounded by? I understand that Lakers fans love love

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Speaker 2: Austin Reeves. He's a very good player as a number

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Speaker 2: a pretty good number three. By the way, the Celtics

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Speaker 2: teams have other good players too, and I'm just with you.

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Speaker 2: It just it has felt like the last month that

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Speaker 2: it has just been this thing of it's it. We

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Speaker 2: basically exactly what you said, we want it to be.

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Speaker 2: We want this to happen, So we're just gonna speak

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Speaker 2: it into existence. We're just gonna talk about the Lakers

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Speaker 2: as if it's a done deal. Just put them in

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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals and then who knows. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 2: it'll be the Celtics, maybe it'll be the Cavs. But

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Speaker 2: Lakers are so good and I just see a team

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Speaker 2: with two very you know, elite, high level front end

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Speaker 2: the two front end players, there are plenty of questions

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Speaker 2: about as well as we get deeper into an eighty

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Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what the final you know, six weeks,

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Speaker 2: but my guess is they're gonna to be fighting for seeding,

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Speaker 2: fighting for positioning. It's not as though you know this

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Speaker 2: is two thousand and you know thirteen Lebron where it's like,

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. I don't know. I just I've gone on

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Speaker 2: long enough. The point I'm trying to make is I

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Speaker 2: agree with you wholeheartedly. I think it's a cool story

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Speaker 2: with certainly interesting characters. But I think it's a better

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. I think that's that's well said,

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Speaker 3: that last part especially, But I just my whole take

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Speaker 3: good for the league, and I certainly don't think it's

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Speaker 3: a bad thing. It has generated some interest, there's some

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Speaker 3: stuff here, right, but let's let them earn it, Like,

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Speaker 3: let's not AstroTurf this thing to death, because if you

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Speaker 3: really believe that it can happen, then you don't have

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Speaker 3: to sell it. It's gonna sell itself. You don't have

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Speaker 3: to overplay your hand. It's going to sell itself. It's

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Speaker 3: going to work itself out exactly the way that you

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Speaker 3: then what exactly are you doing as you're trying to

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Speaker 3: to generate content that isn't something that you actually believe.

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Speaker 3: So I just need you to back off because we're

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Speaker 3: sixty one games in. If you're watching right now and

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Speaker 3: comes in terms of the Lakers record right now, forty

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Speaker 3: and twenty one, there's still you know, a quarter of

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Speaker 3: long long way to go. If we're sitting here in

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Speaker 3: we will be giving them all the praise and props,

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Speaker 3: and we are giving them some praise. I just think

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Speaker 2: You know what this is. This is and I've used

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jamart, you thought the action on the

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio Aerators Jason Martin, broadcasting

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Speaker 2: Now, we normally don't like to talk about other networks,

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Speaker 5: That wasn't a basketball player confronting me. That was a parent,

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Speaker 3: By all accounts, he's obviously.

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Speaker 5: A wonderful family man and a wonderful father kids very

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Speaker 2: That was Stephen A.

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Speaker 2: It was certainly a much longer response, but you know,

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Speaker 2: start by prefacing what we preface this conversation with every

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Speaker 2: I think he realizes this whole thing was a mistake,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So the problem he is that Lebron's the reason

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Speaker 3: Anytime that we're talking about Brinnie is probably not going

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Speaker 3: You do not talk about him, you do not criticize him,

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Speaker 3: What are you covering up here? Like what exactly is happening?

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Speaker 3: what might be causing, as you said, the cracks to form,

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Speaker 3: because that's the last thing I think that he wanted.

429
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Speaker 3: I can't believe that he did not see this coming

430
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Speaker 3: long before that draft, but somehow we are here well.

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Speaker 2: And the only thing I would really add to that

432
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Speaker 2: is the only reason I don't think he could see

433
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Speaker 2: this coming was because he convinced the media that this

434
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Speaker 2: wasn't a bad thing before the draft. I mean, I

435
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Speaker 2: go back to ironically. I mean, I vividly remember. First

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Speaker 2: of all, if you remember j Martin, you might nod,

437
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Speaker 2: but I just remember this is like they had the

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Speaker 2: second round separate from the first round for the first

439
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Speaker 2: time ever, and they had the second round at like

440
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Speaker 2: one in the afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I remember having it on to you know,

443
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Speaker 2: I want to see, is Bronni really gonna go with

444
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Speaker 2: that last pick by the Lakers late in the second round?

445
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Speaker 2: Wasn't the last last pick, but whatever, it was fifty

446
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Speaker 2: six fifty seven. I tune it in to see And

447
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Speaker 2: the second the pick was made, ironically enough, steven A

448
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: was on set and him and WOJ, who I know,

449
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Speaker 2: Woj is no longer in the business, and I hope

450
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Speaker 2: he's having a fun time in college basketball. But him

451
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Speaker 2: and WOJ went on this monologue of don't you even

452
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Speaker 2: dare call this nepotism. Uh, there's nepotism all over this league.

453
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Speaker 2: And if you're not mad about this GM getting a

454
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Speaker 2: job because his dad played, and this coach getting a

455
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Speaker 2: job because his dad played, And it's like immediately it

456
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Speaker 2: was almost like the media telling you know, it's like

457
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Speaker 2: anything else with the media, It's like the media is

458
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Speaker 2: trying to tell us how we should feel. And I

459
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Speaker 2: guess I don't know, I get because I vividly remember that,

460
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Speaker 2: and I guess lebron just felt like because him and

461
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Speaker 2: his cronies, you know, Rich Paul and everybody, were able

462
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Speaker 2: to convince the media on Draft night that Bronni was

463
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Speaker 2: immune to criticism, that that meant that that that went

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Speaker 2: on in perpetuity for his NBA career. I don't know,

465
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Speaker 2: but that would be the last thing I would say

466
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Speaker 2: to put a button on this conversation. Is just like,

467
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Speaker 2: you know, he did a good job of controlling the

468
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Speaker 2: media or convincing the media that Bronni was ready. And again,

469
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Speaker 2: we understand that Bronni had the cardiac arrest all that,

470
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Speaker 2: but Bronnie also played from December on for USC It

471
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Speaker 2: wasn't as though he played probably sixty to seventy percent

472
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Speaker 2: of their games, and it wasn't as though at any

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Speaker 2: point during that season he looked like a guy that

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Speaker 2: should be one of the fifty nine to sixty players

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Speaker 2: drafted in that NBA draft. So that's the only thing

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Speaker 2: I could think of. He clearly controlled the narrative around

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Speaker 2: draft time, and now I think, listen, the cats out

478
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Speaker 2: of the bag. He can't control the narrative anymore. People

479
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Speaker 2: can see it with their own eyes. And again from

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Speaker 2: my perspective, I have no problem with what Steven A.

481
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Speaker 2: Smith has said because it's what everybody's seeing. And as

482
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Speaker 2: you said, it's his job, like it is all of

483
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Speaker 2: our jobs, to just commentate and talk about sports.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that's it. I mean I

485
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Speaker 3: think that at some point the lie is going to

486
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Speaker 3: be exposed. At some point, the I'm pushing him too

487
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Speaker 3: far too fast is going to be exposed. Because the

488
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: problem for Lebron is you can only control the narrative

489
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Speaker 3: until he goes out on the floor and he is

490
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Speaker 3: what he is. He's not a marionette, right Like. You

491
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Speaker 3: can't control him that way to make him as good

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Speaker 3: as you are, as bad as you want him to

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Speaker 3: be as bad as maybe he wants him to be.

494
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Speaker 3: But the problem was, we were going to see him play,

495
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Speaker 3: and there were going to be reports that were just

496
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Speaker 3: objective about what people were seeing and how he was playing,

497
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Speaker 3: and we were going to realize the jig is up,

498
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Speaker 3: Like eventually we're going to see the thing that's real

499
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: and the whole fantasy land thing. It's not a movie, man,

500
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Speaker 3: it's not a movie. It's not one of the things

501
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: that you're doing at your production studio. Lebron like, he

502
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 3: has to go out and play basketball and the problem

503
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: is he's not NBA level at that, and so that's

504
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: gonna be a NonStop critique. That's gonna be a NonStop

505
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: thing that we see every time. And unfortunately for Bronnie,

506
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Speaker 3: I mean, it got to that point where you hit

507
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Speaker 3: a bucket and they're like people like ah, like all

508
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: excited because you hit a three year stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: That's that's not what you want, man, And I'm sure

510
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Speaker 3: that's not what lebron wants. It's not what Bronnie wants either,

511
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Speaker 3: But that's awful. That's like pity almost mockery, and that's

512
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 3: not that's just that's a bad look for for for

513
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Speaker 3: Bronnie to go through, and I do feel bad for

514
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Speaker 3: lebron but in the same moment I almost take it

515
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Speaker 3: back because this could have been easily avoided if you

516
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 3: would talk to anyone and listen to them. Because I

517
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 3: can't imagine any buddy but the most just bogus. Yes men,

518
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 3: not telling you this is not as good an idea

519
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 3: as you think it is. Let's hold off.

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Speaker 2: Totally agree, totally agree. Nothing else to add. We wish

521
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: Bronni well, but we also have to be realistic and

522
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: be fair in our coverage, and so far Bronni has

523
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: not looked like an NBA player. Fox Sports Radio Air

524
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Speaker 2: Tours Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com studios.

525
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: We will come back. We got some more, uh A

526
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 2: lot going on in the media and people talking and

527
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 2: saying stuff. Mark Cuban certainly had some interesting things to

528
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: say about the Luca trade. We will get to that

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Speaker 2: momentarily before we do, though. Newsdesk first time for us

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Speaker 2: this evening, Steve Disaga, what is trending, my friend?

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Speaker 6: Well, the Celtics beat the Lakers, ending LA's eight game

532
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 6: winning streak one eleven, one oh one, Lebron James had

533
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Speaker 6: a good night nine assists, just one turnover, twenty two

534
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Speaker 6: points and fourteen rebounds in a game he did not finish.

535
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Speaker 6: He left with a string groin. For what it's worth,

536
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Speaker 6: ESPN saying it's too early for a timetable, but one

537
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 6: source told them the initial thought is it will sideline

538
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 6: Lebron James for a matter of weeks, not a matter

539
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 6: of days. That is not yet official.

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00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: So the greatest dynasty of in the history of the

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Speaker 2: NBA is dead after two weeks, six seven games.

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Speaker 6: I heard have you?

543
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 2: I mean to say, you cover this stuff? You followed?

544
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: Was it a little bit overblown because they won a

545
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: couple of nice games?

546
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 6: Actually, the NBA is always a little bit overblown, all right,

547
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 6: fair enough? Do you not remember Devin Booker being up

548
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 6: two games to none and he's Kobe and Non and

549
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 6: on and on. It's just it's it's an annual thing

550
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 6: and people, I don't know. It's like selective dementia. I

551
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Speaker 6: guess it really is.

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Speaker 2: The way I can put well, I just go back

553
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: to the thing with Darvin Ham, the previous coach that

554
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 2: Lebron ran out made the Western Conference finals. I'm not

555
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: saying they're not playing well. I'm not saying that JJ

556
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: Reddick hasn't improved the on the court product. But let's

557
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: until JJ Reddick gets to at least a Western Conference finals.

558
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: Let's not crown him or this organization anything that they

559
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: weren't twenty four months ago from whenever the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: Can I just say tonight's game in Boston, they really

561
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 6: missed Mark Williams because they didn't have they didn't have

562
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 6: Jackson Hay starting center, and Rory Hutchemur is out and Okay,

563
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 6: there's a lamp and there's another one, and there's another

564
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 6: one down.

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Speaker 2: The whole point that me and j mart are making

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Speaker 2: this is a flaw. This is who they are, yes, exactly.

567
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: And it's not to say that they can't get the

568
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: right matchups and get hot just but they're just not

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Speaker 2: who people A lot of people in the media are

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Speaker 2: trying to make them.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: Okay, see has a little more experience than last year.

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Speaker 6: I look forward to seeing them in the postseason, by.

574
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Speaker 3: The way, and you know they are my team. So

575
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Speaker 3: I just quietly enjoying this season because apparently the thunder

576
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 3: don't matter.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that gets part of the conversation on the Sunday

578
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 6: Night Show, of course, because we have a co host

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Speaker 6: in Oklahoma and Arnie Spandi who just wants to see

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Speaker 6: the famous teams.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, has Arnie claimed the thunder as

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Speaker 2: his own?

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Speaker 3: Yet?

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00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: No, that would be the because of death.

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Speaker 6: Oh we're still winning, No, exactly, He's still hanging on

586
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 6: with the Knicks. Boston was up twenty two on the

587
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 6: Lakers by the way, eighty to fifty eights. Lead was

588
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 6: down to four one eleven to one oh one over La.

589
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 6: The final we have late night college basketball. It's the

590
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Speaker 6: final weekend of the men's regular season. Third ranked Houston

591
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 6: is only leading forty two to forty one at Baylor

592
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 6: with about eleven minutes to go. Number twenty three BYU

593
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 6: ahead of rival Utah fifty one forty one with fourteen

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Speaker 6: minutes left. Seventh ranight to Alabama won in overtime at

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Speaker 6: number one Auburn ninety three to ninety one on a

596
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Speaker 6: jumper at the buzzer. Six ranks Saint John's at the

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Speaker 6: buzzer of overtime, one at Marquette eighty six eighty four,

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Speaker 6: and Penn stayed upset. Number twelve Wisconsin in a comeback

599
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 6: eighty six to seventy five NHL Colorado seven to four

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Speaker 6: winners over Toronto Saints. Quarterback Derek Carr is restructuring his contract,

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Speaker 6: clearing cap space.

602
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: He's staying.

603
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 6: Yankees DH Gencarlos Stanton says his elbow injuries have been

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Speaker 6: deemed severe. Surgery as a possibility, but that would end

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Speaker 6: his season. Pitcher Garrett Cola, the Yankee, says he's concerned

606
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 6: about his elbow. He started tests on it. Colin Morikawa

607
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 6: leads by one stroke in Orlando, and gentlemen, we have

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Speaker 6: the first ticket punch for March Madness.

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Speaker 2: We had our.

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Speaker 6: First conference tournament title game this evening. It was in

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Speaker 6: the Ohio Valley and for the first time ever, SIU

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Speaker 6: Edwardsville is going to the national tournament. They beat first

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Speaker 6: place Southeast Missouri States sixty nine forty eight, as the

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Speaker 6: losing side from three point range was three for twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Back to you by the way, to Sigre, I could

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Speaker 2: be wrong on this, but this late night game Saint

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Speaker 2: Thomas in North Dakota, I believe Saint Thomas is one

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Speaker 2: of the schools that isn't eligible for the tournament, so

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Speaker 2: I think if satan. Yeah, I think if they win

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Speaker 2: this game, whoever they play tomorrow gets an autobitcho. In

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Speaker 2: other words, they are too new. Yeah, it's a weird

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Speaker 2: thing that yeah, yeah, but yeah, you have a four

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Speaker 2: year period once you join the NCAA Division.

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Speaker 6: One, like when Grand Canyon came into the wack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know why they let these teams in

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Speaker 2: the conference tournament, But that's another conversation.

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Speaker 6: Or why do conferences let all the teams into the

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Speaker 6: conference tournament? Can we just ask that out loud?

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Speaker 2: Why they don't let everybody team in?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Why do they let every team in? I mean, I

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Speaker 2: like it. I think it's a shame that the big

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Speaker 2: ten in the ACC aren't bringing every team to the

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Speaker 2: conference uram. I mean that's the whole concept of the

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Speaker 2: end of March madness, right.

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Speaker 6: Well they're bigger now yeah yeah, but the conferences you

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Speaker 6: can play an eighteen game ACC tournament.

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Speaker 2: But all right, anyway to sick. Appreciate your help. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports radio eritors Jason Martin broadcasting line from the diirect

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jamartin, I want to spend some time

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Speaker 2: talking about what Mark Cuban had to say about Luka Doncic.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Aaron Taurus, Jason Martin. We are broadcasting

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Speaker 2: and I from the Tyreck dot Com Studios, taking you

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Speaker 2: up till two a m. Eastern time. Jamart Man, I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what. We've talked a lot of Lakers.

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Speaker 3: In hour one.

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Speaker 2: We talked the loss to the Celtics this evening, as

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Speaker 2: de Sager just told you, Lebron James leaves the groin strain.

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Speaker 2: Reports are early speculation could be out for a reasonably

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Speaker 2: significant amount of time. We'll keep you updated as more

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Speaker 2: information gets out. We also talked about the new rivalry

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Speaker 2: that is sweeping the NBA. No, not Celtics Lakers, but

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Speaker 2: Steven A versus Lebron I'll tell you what. The other

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Speaker 2: interesting part of the Lakers is we're like a month

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Speaker 2: removed from the Luca trade and there's still no one

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Speaker 2: that can really explain it. So earlier, real quick, I

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Speaker 2: got I'm all you, so I.

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Speaker 3: Was gonna ask this question. I didn't know about the

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Speaker 3: groin strain until the seger mentioned it.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I mentioned it.

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Speaker 3: I was watching the game, but I didn't know it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't notice it happened. I tuned it out when

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Speaker 3: I realized the game is over. But I was thinking

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Speaker 3: I was actually going to bring this year attention. Is

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Speaker 3: like considering his age, like ten minutes left or something,

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Speaker 3: they're down nineteen or whatever. It's like, why is he

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Speaker 3: still in the game. I was thinking that to myself,

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Speaker 3: and obviously I had no idea it was going to

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Speaker 3: turn out like this, But now I'm just like, he

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Speaker 3: gets hurt. Apparently he leaves a game with six forty

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Speaker 3: four left in the game with the groin strand why

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Speaker 3: is he in the game when they're going to lose

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Speaker 3: at his age? Like eventually, I think at some point

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Speaker 3: you got to wave the white flag when you have

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Speaker 3: a forty year old, Like, that's not a game. He

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Speaker 3: should have been in in the last couple of minutes.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not like coming at Reddick or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying I'm confused as to why he was

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Speaker 3: in a game they were not going to win.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, I was just gonna say, I mean, they

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Speaker 2: are saying JJ Reddick is the next Phil Jackson. Actually

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Speaker 2: the exact quote was there's a lot of pat Riley

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Speaker 2: in him when he was hired, So I mean, who

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Speaker 2: am I to question the current pat Riley. I actually

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Speaker 2: did not see that. I did see that he left

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Speaker 2: with the Gorn strain mentioned in segment one. Thanks thanks

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Speaker 2: for paying attention, but that's neither here nor there. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: I didn't see that he was in the game that late.

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Speaker 2: But I do happen to agree with you, is I

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Speaker 2: think A yeah, I was poking fun at JJ a

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Speaker 2: little bit, but yeah, probably not his finest moment. Probably

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Speaker 2: should I.

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Speaker 3: Mean to derail you there, I was just kind of

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Speaker 3: I was just kind of like he got hurt late,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know why he was still in the game.

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Speaker 2: Well, and the whole thing is too and they're also

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Speaker 2: on an East coast road trip. I mean, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of variables at play, like East Coast road trip.

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Speaker 2: You know, you just played on Thursday and then you

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Speaker 2: flew cross country. And I know the NBA guys are

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Speaker 2: used to the travel, but I'm with you, probably shouldn't

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Speaker 2: have been in at that point. And then here's the

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Speaker 2: other thing too. Not only was the game sort of

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Speaker 2: out of reach, but they had to exert a lot

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Speaker 2: of effort just to get back into the game.

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Speaker 3: So I guess he had just scored. I just saw this.

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Speaker 3: He had just scored and gotten them within seven. So

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Speaker 3: they were down seven at that point, So I understand

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Speaker 3: it at a seven point game. I'm just surprised he

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Speaker 3: was still in down nineteen like three minutes before that,

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Speaker 3: like the come back notwithstanding, I guess it's the NBA,

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Speaker 3: but it seems like that's one where you just kind

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Speaker 3: of pull back and play a different day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he is whatever, whether it was, you know,

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Speaker 2: a mistake by JJ or not. And we'll we'll obviously

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Speaker 2: we have Brandon in the back, will monitor for any

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Speaker 2: sound from JJ on Lebron. But yeah, no, I think

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Speaker 2: you're right. Is that if if the game was out

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Speaker 2: of hand or getting close to out of hand, probably

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Speaker 2: not the smartest move to have lebron in. Speaking of

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Speaker 2: not smart moves, Dallas Mavericks trade of Luka doncic a

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Speaker 2: few weeks ago. Nobody can explain it, including former Dallas

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Speaker 2: Maverick's majority owner Mark Cuban. Now, I'll be honest, I

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Speaker 2: don't know exactly where this sound came from. I meant

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Speaker 2: to look it up and I kind of forgot. But

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Speaker 2: Mark Cuban was asked about the Luka doncicch trade earlier

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Speaker 2: this week, and here is what he had to say.

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Speaker 7: If the MAVs are going to trade Luca, that's one thing.

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Speaker 7: Just get a better deal, you know, no disrespect to

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Speaker 7: Anthony Davis. I still believe if we had gotten for

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Speaker 7: unprotected number ones and Anthony Davis and Max Christy, this

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Speaker 7: would be a different conversation.

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Speaker 2: That was an interview with w FAA, a local affiliate

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Speaker 2: down in Dallas. Thank you brief for that really quick Jmart.

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Speaker 2: So Mark Cuban basically confirms the deal sucked. I'll ask

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Speaker 2: you what I've asked you for about five straight weeks. Now,

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Speaker 2: is Nico Harrison just really incompetent or is there something

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Speaker 2: else there?

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Speaker 3: There's something else here? I have grown increasingly on the

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Speaker 3: side of there's more here than we know, and well,

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Speaker 3: I mean we were always there, but I mean, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to say it because we've kind of beat

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Speaker 3: around this for the last couple of weeks, but I'm

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Speaker 3: real close to just saying this thing is not just fishy,

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Speaker 3: this thing is dirty, like something something really wrong seems

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Speaker 3: like it has gone on here. And you know, have

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Speaker 3: you ever heard, well, of course you have, bald don't lie.

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00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: This is the most ultimate. This is the most incredible,

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00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 3: like karma induced bald don't lie I've ever seen. Have

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Speaker 3: you seen what's happened to the Mavericks since Luca left?

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so Anthony Davis and what happened with them. Of course,

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Speaker 3: the fan base them trying to villainize Luca with a

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Speaker 3: bunch of stuff that's not true, and then Kyrie rips

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Speaker 3: his acl so he's probably going to be missing part

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Speaker 3: of next year as well, and he's not going to

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Speaker 3: be I would imagine too keen on getting back because

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Speaker 3: there's nothing there at all. They've lost over a million

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Speaker 3: social media followers has the organization. Since Luca left, everything

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Speaker 3: has gone in the opposite directions. It's almost like they're

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Speaker 3: getting exactly what they deserve.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's almost like they're getting exactly what they deserve, or,

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Speaker 2: if you want to go conspiracy theory, exactly what they

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Speaker 2: want because of.

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Speaker 3: That potentially, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That was one of the reports. By the way, it's

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Speaker 2: also worth noting that they mentioned right in the middle

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Speaker 2: of that injury run that they are raising season ticket

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Speaker 2: prices for next year, and so to me there was

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00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: a sort of half baked, but if you read and

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Speaker 2: you read into it, it felt like there was something

782
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Speaker 2: there about the new family that bought the Mavericks, ironically

783
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: from Mark Cuban basically is in the gaming business, and

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Speaker 2: they were trying to position the Dallas Mavericks to open

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Speaker 2: a casino when legalized sports betting comes, it doesn't feel

786
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Speaker 2: like it's coming. And now they're basically essentially trying to

787
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Speaker 2: pull a major league and make the team so bad

788
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: that they can move them, likely to Vegas. So I'm listen.

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Speaker 2: All I'm saying is I'm sort of with you. Is like,

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Speaker 2: and I just listen. We're now three four weeks removed.

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Speaker 2: There is still no one that can logically explain a

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Speaker 2: legitimate reason why the Dallas Mavericks made this trade, I

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00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: would add on top of it, you know, Mark Cuban

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Speaker 2: coming out and saying what he's it's just nothing about

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00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: it a week later makes sense and I'll just be quick.

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00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: I know we got it whatever, But like this all

797
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: comes in the middle of a dead NBA season. Ratings

798
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: are going down. Now all of a sudden, you have

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Speaker 2: the one of the most interesting players on the Glamour franchise.

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00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 2: They're playing well before injury. Today. I know we got

801
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: not very much time. J Mart. I don't know what

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00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: else to add, but it's just there's something up for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So Markkeith Morris actually who was part of the trade,

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Speaker 3: and I'll say this quick, he said, And so apparently

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Speaker 3: Luca wasn't in shape and all this other kind of stuff,

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Speaker 3: and he was just kind of like, well, I mean

807
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Speaker 3: a dude, and go, I get you forty every night.

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Speaker 3: If that's not being in shape, I don't know what

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00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 3: shape is.

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Speaker 2: Bingo. There you go. He led him to the NBA

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Speaker 2: Finals last year. That's all you need to know. And

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00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: we've talked about it is if you get to the

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals, you're one step away. It makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Air Tourus Jason Martin more trouble with

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Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs. That's next, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: after the Lakers Celtics game. Excuse me, per our hardworking

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Speaker 2: associate producer Brandon in the back. He says that, Lebron

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Speaker 2: is a long term issue. He did leave the game

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Speaker 2: tonight with a strange groin, so we'll see what kind

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Speaker 2: of sound we can get, jaymar Before we move on

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Speaker 2: to a couple noteworthy things in the world of football.

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Speaker 2: That conversation about Luca got cut kind of short. Did

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Speaker 2: you have anything to add and basically for people just

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Speaker 2: joining us, we played the Mark Cuban sound. We don't

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Speaker 2: need to play it again, Mary or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: But Mark Cuban basically insinuating. He even acknowledged that it

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Speaker 2: was a bad deal for the Dallas Mavericks. Now it's

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Speaker 2: worth noting Mark Cuban is no longer the majority owner

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Speaker 2: of the Dallas Mavericks. But you know, it was a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a shorter seg Did you just kind

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Speaker 2: of finish up everything that you kind of had to

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Speaker 2: say about that, Jmark.

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Speaker 3: The only other thing is that there's that like there's

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Speaker 3: that other story out there that's just kind of emerged

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Speaker 3: in the last week or so that Nico called up

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Speaker 3: the Tea Wolves and said, well, we want Anthony Edwards.

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Speaker 3: We'll give you Luca. Before the Lakers thing was out

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Speaker 3: there and the Tea Wolves said they didn't have interest.

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Speaker 3: That story kind of came out, so that kind of

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Speaker 3: at least stops the idea that they called nobody but

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Speaker 3: the Lakers. Although like, I mean, we're the t Wolves

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00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: really going to give up Anthony Edwards? I mean, I

853
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: understand like you're not giving up Michael Jordan. No, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: we did that. No real quick though, can I was

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Speaker 3: just joking on that. But I find it interesting that

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Speaker 3: that just sort of emerges a week later. It almost

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Speaker 3: feels like damage control.

858
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: It almost feels like damage control. And let me ask you,

859
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: let me let me just state something right there. If

860
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: that's the argument, doesn't it completely flow counter to the

861
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: original argument that Nico Harrison put out when the trade

862
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: was made, defense wins Championships. You know, it's like, so

863
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: now again, Nico Harrison could just be totally incompetent at

864
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: his job. That is certainly in play here. But the

865
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 2: whole argument was defense wins Championships. That's why we decided

866
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: to make this move. We think that Kyrie and Anthony

867
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: Davis have a higher upside than Kyrie and Luca, and

868
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: of course two noteworthy things there. One, of course, Kyrie

869
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: unfortunately is out for the year. You feel bad, but

870
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how much of a higher upside you

871
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: can get than a team that just won the West

872
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: and made the NBA Finals. So you know, again, it's

873
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: just to me and I was cut a little short

874
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: during that last hour. Is listen, I'm not saying none

875
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: of us know maybe none of us ever will know.

876
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 2: All I will say is that in a year where

877
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: the NBA was, let's call it what it was, they

878
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: were struggling for relevancy, it was right at it was

879
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: you know, All Star Weekend was a dud. The play

880
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: at what is it? The NBA Cup was a bigger

881
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: dud than it was in your I mean, there was

882
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: the biggest story of the first probably sixty percent of

883
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: the season before the Lucas trade was Bronni. That tells

884
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: you where the league was. And again, all I will

885
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: say is that in a year where there was basically

886
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: nothing to get excited about on the national level in

887
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: the league, a superstar just entering his prime was traded

888
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: to the glamour franchise. They immediately turn into a you know, elite, elite,

889
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: elite contender and a month later, nobody can really explain it.

890
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: And so to your point, and by the way, the

891
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards stuff comes out three weeks four weeks after

892
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: the fact, you know that feels a little bit like,

893
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: you know, oh no, no, no, we made some other calls. Yeah,

894
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 2: you know. So the only point I'm trying to make

895
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 2: it again, we will probably never know, and I don't

896
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: want to speak for you, but maybe we're digging to

897
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: d per but it just it feels like there's something

898
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: more that we don't neet know.

899
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, maybe there's not. But so you call the

900
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 3: t Wolves about Anthony Edwards, and Sports Illustrated others report

901
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: they just said no. But then the last line of

902
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: the article that I was reading said, but the t

903
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: Wolves were stunned that Dallas was considering trading Luca. In

904
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 3: the same moment, the other call that was at least

905
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 3: mentioned in some articles was that they called Milwaukee about Yannis.

906
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: So here's the only thing I want to say, like,

907
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 3: did you really think that those trades were going to

908
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: happen or were you trying to just create a couple

909
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: of other potential things there to kind of soften the

910
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: sham that you were pulling, because you went, let me

911
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 3: ask you this, all right, So if you're calling up

912
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: and saying we will consider trading our guy Luca for

913
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards and Jannis antetokumpo, how do you go from

914
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: that to Anthony Davis? Like, I'm not saying Anthony Davis

915
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 3: is not good, but Anthony Davis is post thirty, He's

916
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: injured a lot, and He's not going to go in

917
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 3: there and replace your offensive talent of Luka doncicch in

918
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,479
Speaker 3: that moment. So you're telling me that you were trying

919
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: to take those swings, and when they failed, you went

920
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: for a really bad deal, one that was lopsided in

921
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 3: every possible direction. Even if you look at some of

922
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 3: the deals that have been made in the NBA over

923
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: the last few years, almost everybody got a better haul

924
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: than you did for that guy. I don't understand it,

925
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: Like something just doesn't spell right about this. And maybe

926
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 3: I've watched too many videos because they're so fun to watch,

927
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: they're so entertaining and fascinating to see just how deep

928
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: this thing could potentially go. And maybe I've just been

929
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: kind of the well's been poisoned a little bit. But

930
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 3: I just I failed to see the logic. And as

931
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: you mentioned earlier, no one has been able to give

932
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: me a reason that makes any sense as to why

933
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: this would have happened.

934
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: Well, and I'm trying to think. I can't think of

935
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: anything great off the top of my head. But there

936
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: are things in sports that you and I and whoever

937
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: we may disagree with, but like there's an explanation for

938
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: why it happened, right, Like, this is a bad example,

939
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: but it's just the one that's coming to me off

940
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: the top of my head. Like we all agree that

941
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is still probably one of the thirty two

942
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: best quarterbacks on planet Earth, but you and I can

943
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: understand why teams aren't in line to sign him. You know,

944
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: that's not a great example, But I'm just trying to

945
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: think of something that we can all agree upon that

946
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: we might not personally agree with, but we understand why

947
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: it's happening.

948
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: You know.

949
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: Again, I'm just I can't think of anything else off

950
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: the top of my head. Like I said, there's no

951
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: one that can explain this. And then the deeper that

952
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: the more explanations that come out, the less it makes sense. Because,

953
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: like I said, if Nico Harrison's argument was the night

954
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: of the Trade, well, defense win championships, Well that doesn't

955
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: make sense to why then Anthony Edwards was a guy

956
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: that you pursued that in that trade. Anthony Edwards doesn't

957
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: make you better defense, it makes you interesting offensively. I

958
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: don't know if he makes you better makes you about it,

959
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 2: but if.

960
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: You But the difference here is though that if you're

961
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: gonna Like if they traded Luca for Anthony Edwards, I

962
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: don't think we're having the same level of conversation, totally fair.

963
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: And if they trade Luca for Giannis, we're not having

964
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 3: the same kind of conversation because we're looking at the

965
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 3: level of Starr. The problem here is these two things

966
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 3: don't measure up if you put them on a scale.

967
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: If you put them on a scale together, and you

968
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 3: put Luca on one side and you put Anthony Davis

969
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 3: and one first round draft pick on the other in

970
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, I mean Luca, And this is not

971
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 3: a fat joke. Lucas is going to the ground at

972
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: that point in time on the scale, Like it just

973
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 3: doesn't add up. Like if you're trading Star for Starr, Like, yes,

974
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 3: some people would be upset, But if you traded Patrick

975
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 3: Mahomes for Lamar Jackson, some people could understand it. You're

976
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes for Josh Allen or something like that. I'm

977
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 3: just trying to throw another example out there. But you

978
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: can't trade show Hey o'tani for I don't know at

979
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: this point, there's almost nobody in his league, but just anybody,

980
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: like you can't trade Show Hey O'tani for de la

981
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 3: Cruz or somebody like that. Even if he's good, he's

982
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: not that good.

983
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: Well, it'd be like trading like Patrick Mahomes for like

984
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield and.

985
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 3: Something to know about Baker Mayfield.

986
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: Well, you know it's like I'm trying.

987
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: To think of like Dak Prescott.

988
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, whatever. It's like if we were on air

989
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: and Patrick Mahomes got traded for Dak Prescott, we would

990
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: be like, what I mean, did Patrick Mahomes and maybe

991
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: this is uh we were gonna talk about Xavier Worthy,

992
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 2: Maybe this is the way to maybe.

993
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: We take the champion out of it. Let's say it's

994
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, yeah for Dak Prescott.

995
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be like, is Josh Allen in trouble? Did

996
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: he demand a trade? Is there something that we don't know?

997
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 3: Right?

998
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 2: These were all the reactions that you and I had

999
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: live on air five weeks ago. I think it was

1000
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 2: when it happened. It was all the reactions that everybody

1001
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: had on air that Saturday night, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

1002
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: And again I just go back to here's the other

1003
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: thing too, And I think this is obvious, but it

1004
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: is the Lakers too. I mean that is like where

1005
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: you know, if Anthony Edwards was still on the Hornets

1006
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: or the Pelicans or whatever, and he's thirty, you know, thirty,

1007
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis, he has hypolsiz if Anthony Davis was on

1008
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: the Pelicans or whatever, not the Pelicans, but you get

1009
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: the point, thirty one years old, same injury history playing

1010
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: you know, really talented player. I think we think it's

1011
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: weird and we think it's dumb. I don't know that

1012
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 2: it goes to the level of conspiracy theory, but the

1013
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: fact that it happened to be the Lakers, the fact

1014
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 2: that nobody can really explain it. And by the way,

1015
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: I didn't really get a chance to explain the casino

1016
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory. But basically, the new ownership group that bought

1017
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: the team from Mark Cuban is in the casino industry,

1018
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 2: and basically, and this was the part because I remember

1019
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: we started the conversation with it's either karma for the

1020
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: dumb decision that you made if you're the Mavericks. Everything

1021
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: that's happened since Anthony Davis, Kyrie Irving, and we're not

1022
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 2: wishing injuries, we're just stating facts. It's either karma for

1023
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 2: making this inexcusable trade or you're getting exactly what you wanted.

1024
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: And the theory and the logic behind it was the

1025
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 2: family is in the gaming industry. They bought the Mavericks

1026
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: as a segue into the Texas market, which Texas is

1027
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: pretty much, along with California, the biggest state that does

1028
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: not have legal sports gambling. And the thought process is,

1029
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: we're going to build a casino in sports book around

1030
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks. And now it doesn't look like sports

1031
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 2: gambling is coming to the state of Texas anytime soon,

1032
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: and the family is basically using the Mavericks's leverage of like,

1033
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: if you don't help us get get this thing through,

1034
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: you know, all the legal loopholes and all the political loopholes,

1035
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: then we'll take the Mavericks to move them somewhere else.

1036
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: So that is the conspiracy theory around it. But again

1037
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: I will tell you if you were putting together a

1038
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: blueprint to completely ostracize the fan base so that you

1039
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: could be in position to move them, I would say

1040
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: trading a homegrown superstar just entering his prime for an

1041
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: injury prone player right after they made the NBA Finals

1042
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: and then Oh, by the way, on top of that,

1043
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: doing so right as you announce that you're raising season

1044
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: ticket prices for next year. If you're looking to ostracize

1045
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 2: a fan base, this is a pretty good way of

1046
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: doing it.

1047
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you're you want to talk about it.

1048
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: Just I feel I can't even think of a fan

1049
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 3: base I feel more sorry for than that fan base,

1050
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 3: the ones that have been there. I mean, look, there

1051
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: were a lot of lean years before Dirk got there.

1052
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 3: But I mean, let's say you were young enough to

1053
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 3: where Dirk maybe is what brought you to the dance

1054
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: in the NBA. You live in Dallas, you live in

1055
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: Fort Worth, you live in Austin, you live somebody there,

1056
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: and that's been your team. You weren't a Spurs guy.

1057
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 3: You were a MAVs guy. And the MAVs have brought

1058
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: you a couple of titles, and you brought you a

1059
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 3: title and got you to the finals last year, and

1060
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: you've got to do that. You know, you can go

1061
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: buy his jersey and support him for the next ten

1062
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 3: to fifteen years because he's one of those dudes. He's

1063
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 3: one of those guys that doesn't grow on trees. And

1064
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 3: then your franchise just for seemingly no reason at all,

1065
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 3: just hands him away, just gives him away, and now

1066
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: you've got to watch him in a uniform. I'm sure

1067
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 3: you can't stand playing with Lebron James, who I'm sure

1068
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 3: you can't stand. And now there we're going to charge

1069
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 3: you more to come to the games. We're not going.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't look like we're even trying to feel the

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Speaker 3: team to win. And then I actually never thought I

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Speaker 3: would say this. I feel really sorry for Kyrie Irving.

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00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, right.

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Speaker 3: Did you see what Kyrie said after Luca got traded

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00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: when he was he was talking about or actually not

1076
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 3: after he was talking about his relationship with Luca. I

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00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: don't know there's any offseason or earlier in the year.

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00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 3: And he said, you know, we've had some great conver

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00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 3: stations as men about life and about our families, and

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00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: we've broken bread together, like he was saying stuff that

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00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 3: was like, okay, this is legit. Like he's saying, he

1082
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: and I have. You know, we've grown close, and our

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00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 3: families know each other, We've broken bread together in each

1084
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 3: other's homes. We've had some great conversations about life and

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00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: all this other kind of stuff. He was happy. Like

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00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: I was listening to him talking about it, it was

1087
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: just like, I've really enjoyed being around him and getting

1088
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 3: to know him and all this other kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Imagine Kyrie then finding out that he was traded out

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Speaker 3: from underneath him in the first situation where I mean, Kyrie,

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00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: not only has he not been a problem, he's been

1092
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 3: the exact opposite the entire time he's been in Dallas.

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00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 3: He stunned me with how well that's gone. We both

1094
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 3: were wrong about that and blissfully. So I'm happy to

1095
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 3: say it. I'm happy to see it. I feel sorry

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00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 3: for Kyrie Irving because I think he just had the

1097
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 3: rug pulled out from underneath him. Well.

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Speaker 2: And the one thing I will kind of close on

1099
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: is that if it is some big conspiracy theory, not

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Speaker 2: only was Kyrie not in on it, Luca, by his

1101
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 2: comments and his actions, clearly had no idea either. So listen,

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00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: I'll just say this, and I don't know how much

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00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: any of these other mainstream shows are touching on this,

1104
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 2: but I just don't think this is a conversation that's

1105
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: going away, especially as we led the show. If the Lakers,

1106
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, make the run, that everybody in the media

1107
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: seems to insinuate that they want them to make, which

1108
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: is a deep, deep, deep postseason run. I think it's

1109
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: gonna be a conversation, and I think there are a

1110
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: lot of people, like you said on the Internet that

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00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: maybe aren't part of legacy media, that are willing to

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Speaker 2: maybe look into some things that other people aren't. And

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I just I refuse to

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00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: believe that there's nothing more than he was out of shape,

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00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 2: he smoked hookah, and we didn't believe he could get

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00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: us over the hump, when again he literally got you

1117
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals. So Fox Sports Radio Era towards

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin, we are broadcasting live from the Tireck dot

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Speaker 2: com studios. Will come back. Some news and notes in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Good news for the Los Angeles Las Vegas Raiders,

1121
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: excuse me who now have their quarterback. Bad news for

1122
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 2: a division FO Kansas City Chiefs, more trouble than the offseason.

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Speaker 2: Discuss it all next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio ertors Jay Smartin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from thetirerec dot Com studios. We're gonna come back.

1130
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about all sorts of good stuff from

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00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 2: the NFL. Should mention, by the way, for the best

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00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: Some NFL notes that are absolutely worth discussing. We're gonna

1141
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: get to that momentarily. Before we do, though, let's toss

1142
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: it over the news desk Deep Save West third rank.

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Speaker 6: Houston has just won again, sixty five sixty one at Baylor,

1144
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 6: final weekend of the men's regular season. In college hoops,

1145
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 6: a couple overtime games of note in the top ten.

1146
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 6: Alabama wins at number one Auburn on a jumper at

1147
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 6: the buzzer of ot and six ranks. Saint John's won

1148
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 6: at the buzzer of overtime at Marquette. Penn State came

1149
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 6: back to win at number twelve Wisconsin to the NBA.

1150
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 6: The Lakers eight game winning streak is over. Boston beat

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Speaker 6: him one to eleven to one oh one, forty points

1152
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 6: for Jason Tatum. Jalen Brown scored thirty one. Boston led

1153
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 6: by twenty two, eight to fifty eight and held off

1154
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 6: LA down the stretch. Luka Doncic thirty four points in defeat,

1155
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 6: Lebron James left with a string groin. He finished with

1156
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 6: twenty two points, fourteen rebounds, nine assists. Golden State edge

1157
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 6: Detroit one fifteen to one ten. Steph Curry thirty two points.

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00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 6: Chicago won a close one at Miami, won fourteen one

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Speaker 6: oh nine as Josh Gidde of the Bulls recorded a

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Speaker 6: triple double. Orlando ended a five game losing streak winning

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Speaker 6: a close one at Milwaukee, won eleven to one oh nine.

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00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 6: That ends the Bucks four game winning streak. Even though

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Speaker 6: Jannisan Tenecumpo scored thirty seven points at Atlanta thirty six

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00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 6: for Trey Young in a win over Indiana, won twenty

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Speaker 6: to one eighteen, Young eight assists, seven turnovers in victory

1166
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 6: for the Pacers. Tyrese Halliburton was out again with a

1167
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 6: strained hip. Washington had a record of twelve and forty nine,

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00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 6: but got to win at Toronto, won eighteen one seventeen,

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Speaker 6: Jordan Poole thirty four points. Houston over New Orleans won

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Speaker 6: forty six to one seventeen, and Charlotte ended a nine

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Speaker 6: game losing streak. Hornets guard LaMelo Ball was out tonight

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Speaker 6: with his bad ankle, but Miles Bridges had twenty six

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Speaker 6: points and the Hornets edge Brookland one oh five one

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Speaker 6: oh two. The Nets had lost seven straight in the NHL.

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00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 6: Colorado seven to four over Toronto, Florida wound up a

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Speaker 6: four to nine thing winner in a shutout against Buffalo.

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Speaker 6: Boston won four nothing at Tampa Bay and five minutes

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Speaker 6: to go at Edmonton, Oilers holding on against Dallas five

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Speaker 6: to four. Eric Almarola won NASCAR's Infinity Race. Alex Bowman

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Speaker 6: was a close second. Catherine Legg will be driving in

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Speaker 6: Sunday's Cup race on FS one at Phoenix, the first

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Speaker 6: woman in a Cup Series events since dani Ka Patrick

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00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 6: leg has competed in nineteen career IndyCar races. By the way,

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Speaker 6: all the IndyCar races this season are on Fox TV,

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Speaker 6: which includes the Indy five hundred in late May. The

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00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 6: IndyCar season doesn't continue till March twenty third. It'll end

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Speaker 6: in August. Colin Morikawa leads by one stroke in Orlando

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Speaker 6: at the Arnold Palmer Invitational. Jason Days three back, Shane

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Speaker 6: Lowry shot seventy six. He's now six back. Yesterday, Xander

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Speaker 6: Schaffley barely made the cut at four over par, but

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Speaker 6: he still hasn't missed a cut in about two years

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00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 6: fifty eight straight events. The PGA Tour is in Florida

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Speaker 6: for four straight tournaments, including this week's Arnold Palmer Live Golf.

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Speaker 3: This weekend.

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Speaker 6: They are in Hong Kong right now. Sergio Garcia, early

1196
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 6: in the final round, is tied for the lead. MLS

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Speaker 6: Seattle five to two over LAFC and Novak Djokovic lost

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Speaker 6: his second round tennis match at Indian Welles Bick to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Desager. This is Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Fox Sports Sunday. Depending on where you are might

1201
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Speaker 2: be Saturday as well. Er Torres Jason Martin broadcasting live

1202
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Speaker 2: from the tire Raq dot Com studios. Jmark a couple

1203
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Speaker 2: news and notes items from the NFL. First one, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, you know, I think we got to talk

1205
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Speaker 2: about it a little bit. Chiefs wide receiver Xavier Worthy

1206
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: was arrested on Friday night after an alleged assault incident

1207
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Speaker 2: in Texas. Now it's worth noting that since the arrest

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00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: of you know, about twenty four hours or so ago,

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Speaker 2: now the charges have been dropped. He was accused of

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Speaker 2: assault of a family or house member by impeding the

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Speaker 2: breathing or circulation. I am not going to get into

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Speaker 2: Texas state law and what that means, but it is

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Speaker 2: not good. This is, of course, on the heels of

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Speaker 2: for she Rice last offseason, you know, some other stuff

1215
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Speaker 2: from Chiefs through the years. On a scale of one

1216
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Speaker 2: to ten, how concerned are you with the maybe a

1217
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Speaker 2: little bit of a loose ship that Andy Reid is

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Speaker 2: running over there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, because again it's been dismissed and I

1220
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Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, the DA declined to file, so

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Speaker 3: it's not a charge at this point. He's gone home.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's happened. I don't know what's true

1223
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Speaker 3: and what's not. I don't really want to speculate there.

1224
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Speaker 3: In terms of just the chiefs. It's definitely been an

1225
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 3: unlucky streak, hasn't it unlucky? Your best I mean, you know,

1226
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Speaker 3: you had Kareem Hunt, you had Tyreek Hill, you had

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Speaker 3: the two that you mentioned, of course, and now worthy

1228
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Speaker 3: of being the most recent of those. I hope that

1229
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Speaker 3: they'll things a big misunderstanding and it gets worked out.

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Speaker 3: The description doesn't sound particularly good without even going into

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Speaker 3: any of the details, but there's just a lot that

1232
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Speaker 3: we don't know here. So I don't know if I'm

1233
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Speaker 3: concerned about a loose ship, although we have had that

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01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 3: talk about, for instance, Kirby Smart at Georgia with all

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Speaker 3: the speeding, reckless driving and things like that that we've

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Speaker 3: seen from some of their athletes, And of course it's

1237
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 3: been a lot of these kind of stories throughout the years.

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01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 3: There have been I do remember, you know, there have

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01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 3: been moments in the past where the front office of

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01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 3: Kansas City has been willing to kind of turn a

1241
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Speaker 3: blind eye and take on some problematic, potential red flag

1242
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 3: characters based on their talent, and they wouldn't be the

1243
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Speaker 3: first nor the last to do it. But it was

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Speaker 3: just something that I think came out in the wash

1245
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 3: during It may have been the Kareem Hunt deal where

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01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 3: it actually came out during that point, But I mean,

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Speaker 3: I guess we just need to wait to see what

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Speaker 3: comes from this. I certainly don't really want to, like

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01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 3: you said, Andy Reid running a louse ship. I just

1250
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Speaker 3: I doubt it has anything to do with Andy Reid.

1251
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 3: I do like Andy Reid, so I guess I'm more

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01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 3: apt to be in his favor. But at the same time,

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Speaker 3: I'm just again I'm hopeful that this is a misunderstanding,

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Speaker 3: and at the same time, I just I don't want

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Speaker 3: to get too deep into it because it may because

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Speaker 3: I certainly don't want to say anything about and say

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Speaker 3: if you're worthy that isn't true, because it's the kind

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01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 3: of thing that's hard to wash off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know much else to add there. Chiefs,

1260
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 2: like you said, have certainly been willing to look past

1261
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 2: some character issues heading into the draft. I mean, Tyreek

1262
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Speaker 2: Hill being the most famous one, we know what not

1263
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,959
Speaker 2: only what he was accused of, but what he did

1264
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 2: do to you know a then pregnant girlfriend back in

1265
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 2: the day. And again we don't have to get into it,

1266
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: you can google it whatever. I just bring it up

1267
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 2: to say it has not been good. This does not

1268
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 2: look good. But as you said, if the charges have

1269
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Speaker 2: been dropped opt, if there's no legal matter to be pursued,

1270
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: it's hard to go too deep on this one. On

1271
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: a much, much much lighter note, let's stay in the

1272
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 2: AFC West, where the Kansas City Chiefs rival Las Vegas

1273
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 2: Raiders have themselves. Quarterback probably happened right around twenty four

1274
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 2: to twenty four or so hours ago from now, on Friday,

1275
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: Gino Smith, former Seattle Seahawk. We know it was a

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01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: backup that obviously got an opportunity when Russell Wilson got hurt.

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01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll stuck with him in the post Russell Wilson era,

1278
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 2: even though it led to Pete Carroll's demise. Not necessarily

1279
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 2: Gino Smith specifically, but Gino Smith was the quarterback. When

1280
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll was fired, Mike McDonald replaces Pete Carroll, Gino

1281
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 2: Smith stays with him, but on Friday, Geno Smith is

1282
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 2: traded to the Las Vegas Raiders. He gets an extension.

1283
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 2: He is going to be your quarterback for the Las

1284
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders, at least for the foreseeable future.

1285
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the Carroll tie in makes this make

1286
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 3: a lot more sense than maybe it otherwise would. Although look,

1287
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 3: Gino has played good football. He's been stunningly good as

1288
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 3: a matter of fact, since I mean I didn't even

1289
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 3: know he was still in the league. And then a

1290
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 3: couple of years ago he comes back on the scene.

1291
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: And not only has he come back, but he comes

1292
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 3: back it seems like he's mature, his attitude has shifted

1293
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 3: some of just sort of the kind of nonsense that

1294
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 3: he pulled early in his career. The bluster's gone, and

1295
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 3: now he's just out there winning and it seems like

1296
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 3: his team loves him and he's doing all the hard

1297
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 3: work and at times it seems like he's the best

1298
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 3: player on the field for them. And yeah, I'm actually

1299
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 3: more interested. I'm not as interested necessarily and what it

1300
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 3: means for the Raiders, just because they're certainly better now

1301
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 3: than they were last year. There's no question about it,

1302
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 3: just with him, because he's better than the guys that

1303
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 3: they had out there last year. They still got some

1304
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 3: talent problems, but they do have rock Bowers and you

1305
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 3: know there's a draft coming and some free agency and

1306
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 3: maybe this makes you know, makes them a little bit

1307
01:04:55,680 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 3: more appetizing. And this is to me, like, so we

1308
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 3: talked about what are the Raiders gonna do? Who are

1309
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 3: they gonna get? And you were thinking about the crop

1310
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 3: of quarterbacks that might be out there, and Donald was

1311
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 3: one of them, and Garoppolo was one of them, and

1312
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 3: we were talking about all this during the Stafford talk.

1313
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 3: Gino is a name that like of all those like now,

1314
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 3: I feel like that's a win like that at this stage,

1315
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 3: that's not a bad it's not a bad place to

1316
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 3: land when it comes to if you're a franchise, you

1317
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 3: could have done a whole lot worse than Geno Smith.

1318
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 3: I'm more intrigued by Seattle, like what exactly are you

1319
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,439
Speaker 3: gonna do? Like now the Geno is going, what's what's

1320
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 3: the plan? Is Sam Darnold about to head to Seattle?

1321
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 3: Because I don't see the fix there? Like this doesn't

1322
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 3: seem like it's good at all for se for for

1323
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: the Seahawks.

1324
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 2: That is an interesting byproduct is with the Seattle Seahawks.

1325
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 2: And first of all, say this Gino Smith, to his credit,

1326
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: total pro you know, wish him well in that division

1327
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 2: with that coaching staff. I mean, listen, I'll say this.

1328
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 2: I think it's a best case scenario for him. Man

1329
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 2: is like a coaching staff that believes in you, a

1330
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 2: coaching staff that I think has a ton of runway.

1331
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: I mean, listen. I don't I enjoy the Mark Davis experience,

1332
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 2: but there's only so many coaches in a row that

1333
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 2: you can fire after a year or two before you

1334
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: just got to let somebody ride for a while. And

1335
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 2: so I think Pete Carroll has a nice little runway here.

1336
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,959
Speaker 2: And frankly, you know, I don't think Pete Carroll does

1337
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: this if he feels like, hey, I got a one

1338
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 2: two year window to really turn this thing around. So

1339
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: it's a great landing spot for Gino. I'll say this

1340
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: about the Seattle situation. So one I agree, you know,

1341
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 2: it's just it's it's a new team that we actually

1342
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: just don't know, Like, okay, so what does this mean

1343
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 2: for them? I'll say this too, is like I am

1344
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: a big believer. I understand there's only thirty two NFL

1345
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 2: head coaching jobs. If you are one of these up

1346
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 2: and coming, guys, and you have options and you are

1347
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: going don't let me put it this away. Don't take

1348
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 2: a job where the quarterback situation is not settled. Now, listen,

1349
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 2: If you're Pete Carroll and there's no other option and

1350
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 2: nobody else is hiring you, that's different. If you're maybe

1351
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: a candidate that isn't as high up on the totem poll,

1352
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: that's a different deal. But Mike McDonald, when he was

1353
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens defensive coordinator, was one of the hot

1354
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 2: candidates last offseason. And I just bring it up because

1355
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 2: we see this time and time again. I always use

1356
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 2: the example of Matt Rule. Like Matt Rule when he

1357
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: came to Carolina, he was the guy that couldn't miss,

1358
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: and everybody wanted him, and the Giants were interested in him,

1359
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 2: and this and that and the other thing. And he

1360
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: gets to Carolina and he doesn't really have a quarterback

1361
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 2: and ironically rolls with what Sam Donald in year two

1362
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: and then rolls with Baker May and it never worked

1363
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 2: out and he was out on his butt after two

1364
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 2: or three years. And I think Mike McDonald's a good coach,

1365
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 2: and I think Seattle was better than that. I thought

1366
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: they were. We talked about it last week. I forgot

1367
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 2: that they won ten games. But it's like, all of

1368
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: a sudden, now you're in a position you probably never

1369
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: really loved Gino to begin with. You've now fired the

1370
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. You're going into ye or two with a

1371
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 2: new new offensive coordinator and a new quarterback, and it's

1372
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 2: just like all of a sudden, it can just spiral

1373
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: out of control really quickly for kind of these young,

1374
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 2: up and coming guys. And that would be on one

1375
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 2: piece of advice, Be a Ben Johnson, wait until you

1376
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 2: trust the quarterback situation, be a Mike Vrabel and and

1377
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: hand pick the situation with the quarterback that you want.

1378
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 2: I just could see this thing with Seattle, where Mike

1379
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 2: McDonald goes from the hot offensive coordinator or the hot

1380
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 2: hot coordinator excuse me, is obviously on the defense side

1381
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 2: of the ball. To again, if you don't know who

1382
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: your quarterback is, you know you don't get an endless

1383
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 2: amount of years to figure out the quarterback situation. I

1384
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,520
Speaker 2: just worry that's the road that they're going down.

1385
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that's a really good point. Yeah,

1386
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 3: I mean again, I just look at how I'm saying,

1387
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 3: what what are you planning on doing since you made

1388
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 3: this move and you decided you want to go ahead

1389
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 3: and take the pick in this spot, like, what are

1390
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 3: you gonna do? Are you gonna are you gonna shock

1391
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 3: the world and go up to number one? Are you? Like?

1392
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 3: What is what is the plan here? Do you just

1393
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 3: think Gino's not the long term fix? Maybe we bring

1394
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 3: another patchwork guy in that we don't have to pay

1395
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 3: as much money to, or that we know we're not

1396
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 3: committed to, and that buys us some time to find

1397
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 3: our guy. I'm not exactly sure what the answer is,

1398
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 3: but you've got And of course they've also said, hey, DK,

1399
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 3: go explore a trade. So Metcalf's likely not going to

1400
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 3: be there and Lockett is already gone, so you all

1401
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 3: of a sudden have JSN and I don't know, like

1402
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 3: from that, it's like that and Kenneth Walker and that's

1403
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 3: kind of it right now.

1404
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 2: That is all you have. And again it's just again

1405
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 2: I don't know where that direction is going, where that

1406
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 2: organization is going, And it's not as though I don't

1407
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,719
Speaker 2: think Mike McDonald is good, but it could just spiral

1408
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: really quickly, and it's a great point. I probably should

1409
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,759
Speaker 2: have mentioned off the top that DK Metcalf has demanded

1410
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,879
Speaker 2: a trade, and so so very interesting times in Seattle,

1411
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 2: and I think again it speaks to kind of who

1412
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 2: they worry here we talked about this. I had forgotten

1413
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 2: that they finished ten and seven and in theory tied

1414
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 2: with the Rams for the top spot in that division. Now,

1415
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 2: the Rams clinched the division going into week seventeen, so

1416
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 2: it was obviously a scenario where the Rams could lose

1417
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 2: and still clinch the division. But they won ten games.

1418
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 2: But new quarterback, new offensive coordinator, You're trading the star receiver.

1419
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 2: It feels like and I just don't know who the

1420
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 2: Seahawks are. Fox Sports Radio, Aer Tors Jason Martin broadcasting

1421
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 2: live from the tyreck dot Com studios. We will come

1422
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: back to Sager with his extended update. That's all next.

1423
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

1424
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torris, Jason Martin.

1425
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios,

1426
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 2: as we do every week around this time. Let's toss

1427
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 2: it over the news desk Steve Desager with an extended update.

1428
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,560
Speaker 6: Guys, we did have our first men's basketball team to

1429
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 6: punch its ticket to the end tournament.

1430
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 3: Tonight.

1431
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,839
Speaker 6: Our first conference tournament title game was in the Ohio Valley.

1432
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 6: Congratulations to SIU Edwardsville, which has never made March Madness before.

1433
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 6: More on them in a minute. There are four conference

1434
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:18,560
Speaker 6: title games on Sunday, including tomorrow night the Summit League Championship.

1435
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 6: Aaron with the great point early in the show, and yes,

1436
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 6: Saint Thomas, Minnesota did win its conference semi tonight. They're

1437
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 6: not eligible yet for the NCAA Tournament, but they're in

1438
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 6: their conference final tomorrow against Omaha. Rare rare instance where

1439
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 6: it's not the winner goes to the Big Dance.

1440
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,440
Speaker 2: So Omaha has officially clinched the second NCAA.

1441
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 6: Tournament, so that is to clinch tonight. You see, there

1442
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 6: was an NCAA vote during this school year that a

1443
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,520
Speaker 6: team transitioning to Division one like this Saint Thomas school

1444
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 6: only has to wait four years instead of five. That

1445
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 6: doesn't help them this season. Next year they'll be eligible

1446
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 6: for NCAA Championship play, but they're apparently one of the

1447
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 6: rare rare unifsities making the transition directly from Division three

1448
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 6: to Division one, and so that affects things. But congrats

1449
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 6: to Saint Thomas, at least in its conference final tomorrow night.

1450
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 6: Colorado basketball was two and seventeen in the Big Twelve,

1451
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,560
Speaker 6: but beat TCU by twenty in the late game BYU

1452
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 6: over rival Utah. Miami was two and seventeen in the

1453
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 6: ACC but edged NC State today seventy two seventy, and

1454
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 6: there was a four overtime game at Notre Dame. The

1455
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 6: Irish beat cal One twelve one ten. Yes, that was

1456
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 6: an ACC game. Yale is thirteen and one in the

1457
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 6: Ivy League after winning at Brown, and it looks like

1458
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 6: UC San Diego's gonna finish eighteen and two in the

1459
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 6: Big West. They have a big lead second half at

1460
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 6: UC Davis, and I noticed this one box score of

1461
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 6: women's basketball today. Southern University was fifteen and two in conference,

1462
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 6: but they lost at home forty eight thirty five to

1463
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 6: Alabama A and M. The winning team made one three

1464
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:01,759
Speaker 6: pointer the whole game and had twenty one turnovers. Southern

1465
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 6: new was shot twenty one percent from the floor. As

1466
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 6: for SIU Edwardsville, again, the men are going to the dance.

1467
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 6: NCAA says in its tournament history, this is now team

1468
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 6: number three hundred and thirty three to make the NCAA

1469
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 6: Tournament field. They're going as Ohio Valley Conference Tournament champions.

1470
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 6: They beat first place Southeast Missouri State by twenty one

1471
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 6: points tonight. So I looked up who they had played

1472
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 6: early in the season, which brings us to Doug Gottlieb's

1473
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 6: team in Green Bay, which lost early in its conference tourney.

1474
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 6: Horizon finished four and twenty eight, but Green Bay did

1475
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 6: play this SIU Edwardsville team in mid November and killed

1476
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 6: them eighty two to fifty seven. In fact, green Bay

1477
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:52,799
Speaker 6: after that game went three months without winning another game.

1478
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 6: So let's just already put it down in pen SIU

1479
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 6: Edwardsville is going to be in the first four in Dayton.

1480
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say I'll defend Doug because he's done a

1481
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: few interviews where he's basically been like, if you actually

1482
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 2: look at our roster and what we've had to deal with.

1483
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: The kid Anthony Roy in that game against SIU Edwardville

1484
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 2: scored thirty four points. Bring it out. He was the

1485
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: nation's leading scorer when he went down with an injury.

1486
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: This was on Doug Gottlieb's team Green Bay. Anthony Roy

1487
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 2: was averaging twenty six points per game and went down

1488
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 2: with an injury eleven games in the scene. So I'm

1489
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 2: not defending my colleague here, but there are some variables

1490
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: that people do not mention. When they mentioned the disappointing

1491
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,560
Speaker 2: season from the Green Bay Phoenix.

1492
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 6: They went to a nineteen against conference opponents, I'm just

1493
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 6: saying a team that is going to the LA tournaments.

1494
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 2: Laughter, That's what I'm saying.

1495
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 3: Early.

1496
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they I don't know enough to know how good

1497
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 2: they were at full strength, but when you lose the

1498
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 2: leading score in college basketball, that's never a good thing.

1499
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, we had quite the finish in the SEC. Overtime

1500
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 6: jumper at the Buzzer gets Alabama a win at number

1501
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 6: one Auburn ninety three to ninety one, and when it

1502
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 6: was Mark Sears, their star averaging twenty points a game,

1503
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 6: who was the hero at the end. He had made

1504
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 6: only two baskets the whole day until that shot, he

1505
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 6: was two for eight.

1506
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 2: So Auburn had been.

1507
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 6: Twenty seven and three this season, but ends the regular

1508
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 6: season losing at home to its rival in overtime at

1509
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 6: the Buzzer Jenei Broom thirty four points. Number two ranked

1510
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 6: Duke went nineteen and one in the ACC after winning

1511
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 6: at Carolina, Yes, they beat rival North Carolina eighty two

1512
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 6: sixty nine, so the tar Heels are twenty and twelve.

1513
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 6: Third ranked Houston wins a late game tonight at Baylor

1514
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 6: sixty five sixty one. The Houston Cougars went nineteen and

1515
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 6: one in the Big Twelve Conference and the one loss

1516
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 6: was i in overtime to Texas Tech, which is a

1517
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 6: top ten team now. Ninth ranked Texas Tech won tonight

1518
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 6: at Arizona State eighty five fifty seven. In fact, Tech

1519
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 6: had only two turnovers in the game, led by one

1520
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 6: just before halftime, and then blew them out. Fourth ranked

1521
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 6: Tennessee was trailing South Carolina early in the second half.

1522
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 6: South Carolina finished two and sixteen in conference. It's dead

1523
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 6: last in the SEC of Alls eventually won at home

1524
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 6: seventy five sixty five. Fifth ranked Florida over Ole Miss,

1525
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 6: ninety to seventy one. The Gators finished just one game

1526
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,879
Speaker 6: behind Auburn in the Southeastern Conference. Gators won at Auburn

1527
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 6: in their only matchup a month ago. Sixth ranked Saint

1528
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 6: John's won a finish, winning at the Buzzer in overtime

1529
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 6: at twentieth th rank Marquette eighty six, eighty four, and

1530
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 6: they won it right after a steal. It looked like

1531
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 6: Marquette had the rebound in the final seconds, it was

1532
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 6: poked away. Saint John's quickly scores to win. The home

1533
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 6: team was stunned. Saint John's finishes eighteen and two in

1534
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 6: the Big East, finished three games up on Creighton and

1535
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 6: the standings. Marquette, I know they are ranked twentieth this week,

1536
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 6: but this confirms my opinion that they're yet again this season,

1537
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 6: aren't twenty good teams in college basketball, So be careful

1538
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 6: when you fill out your brackets about the seedings and

1539
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 6: what they mean. Marquette's record the last five weeks is

1540
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 6: four and six.

1541
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say, like I was just watching this Byuutah

1542
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 2: game BYUS won eight straight in the rank twenty third

1543
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 2: in the country. So it's like the AP ranking is

1544
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 2: not reflective of who is good and who isn't at

1545
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 2: this point in the year.

1546
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 6: I would concur with that tenthranked Iowa State one at

1547
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 6: Kansas State seventy three fifty seven. Ky State from three

1548
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 6: point range was two for twenty one. Eleventh rank Clemson

1549
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 6: finished a SUPERB season sixty five forty seven over Virginia Tech,

1550
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 6: which committed twenty three turnovers and made just one free

1551
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 6: throw the whole game. One for four Penn State with

1552
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 6: the upstate the upset at twelfth ranked Wisconsin. Penn State

1553
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 6: trailed by thirteen late in the first half, but won

1554
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 6: the game eighty six seventy five. Its record and conference

1555
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 6: was five and fourteen. Next to last thirteenth rank Maryland

1556
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 6: over Northwestern seventy four to sixty one, and UCLA killed

1557
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 6: USC ninety two sixty three double by for them in

1558
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 6: the Big Ten Tourney. How about fourteenth rank Louisville. It

1559
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 6: goes eighteen and two in the ACC, tied for second

1560
01:17:56,160 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 6: with Clemson. Louisville beat Stanford sixty eight forty eight Kentucky

1561
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 6: one its top twenty matchup at Missouri ninety one eighty three.

1562
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 6: Each of those teams finished ten to eight in conference.

1563
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 6: Kansas surprised Arizona Arkansas ninety three ninety two over Mississippi State.

1564
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 2: By the way. One note Disager, I don't know this

1565
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 2: for sure, but we talked earlier about not everybody getting

1566
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 2: an invite to the Big Ten Tournament, So it looks

1567
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 2: like USC is right on the cut line of getting

1568
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 2: an invite to that Big Ten tournament. So just you know,

1569
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 2: you talk about, you know, byproducts of this expanded conference stuff.

1570
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 2: I think it's fifteen teams go to the Big Ten Tournament,

1571
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 2: and USC right now is tied for they'd be tied

1572
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: for eighteen seventy sixteenth three.

1573
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 3: What could he use, Brownie James?

1574
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 2: I know, No, they they don't. I will say in

1575
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 2: their defense that you know who they actually have coming

1576
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: in next year is Gilbert Arena's son, who's actually actually

1577
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 2: like a legitimate NBA prospect, now like a fake NBA prospect,

1578
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 2: like a legitimate one guy. We're gonna say's son disagres

1579
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 2: I like Bronnie James.

1580
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,520
Speaker 6: Was that the rest of the paragraph.

1581
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 2: I'll let you decipher that.

1582
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 6: However, do we not agree that he was not the

1583
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 6: best team on his high school team, much less on

1584
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,879
Speaker 6: his college team, and yet he gets drafted by the Lakers?

1585
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean he question mark, he was like the

1586
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 2: thirty eighth ranked player in that class. Find me the

1587
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: thirty eighth ranked player that's generally drafted as a one

1588
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 2: and done.

1589
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 3: It doesn't exist.

1590
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 2: But tell you what, Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin

1591
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios. Let's come back.

1592
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 2: We'll talk about the Lakers who took the yel What

1593
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 2: is Lebron James status with an injury? Oh, that's coming up.

1594
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Speaker 2: It's next Airtors Jason Martin taking it till two am

1595
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1597
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1605
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 2: about what was probably the lead story of the night

1606
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 2: in sports. The end of an era, the end of

1607
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 2: the Golden age of the NBA, the greatest dynasty we've

1608
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 2: ever seen, the Los Angeles Lakers. Everyone in the media

1609
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 2: swore that, you know, they might never lose again. You know,

1610
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 2: Luca Lebron just just just start playing in the parade.

1611
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics had other plans. They win one eleven, one

1612
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 2: oh one. It is worth noting Lebron James does exit

1613
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 2: with six forty four left in this game. Afterwards, he

1614
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 2: was asked by the way I should mention left six

1615
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 2: forty four a strained groin. Lebron was asked about. Uh

1616
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 2: was asked about this. Let's go ahead, Mary Mack and

1617
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 2: play Lebron on his growing to look at it.

1618
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 5: Each day, see if it gets better, and then take

1619
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 5: the proper measure mission, see see what we need to

1620
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 5: do going forward.

1621
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 3: I don't know, saidam and grabbing Mike.

1622
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 4: And then figure out where the best case in their

1623
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,759
Speaker 4: best case of playing is going, you know, going forward.

1624
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 2: That was Lebron James after the game. I don't think

1625
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 2: it was really telling one way or the other. But

1626
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 2: you know, we figured we just played the sound. But

1627
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: Lebron James does suffer a strain growin. I want to

1628
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 2: get back to the bigger picture of the Lakers in general, Jason,

1629
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: but I do think it is worth noting the Lakers

1630
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 2: are on the front end of what is obviously an

1631
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 2: East Coast road trip, really just a road trip in general,

1632
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 2: four straight on the road, but of their next seven games,

1633
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 2: two of them are against Milwaukee, two of them are

1634
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 2: against Denver. It is worth noting they do play Phoenix

1635
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 2: as well. I know Phoenix is not playing well, but

1636
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 2: as we saw on Friday night, could still pretty much,

1637
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 2: you know, put the ball in the basket with anybody.

1638
01:21:55,960 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 2: They you know, the crazy overtime Jokic legas. But I

1639
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 2: just ray up because Phoenix is no walk in the

1640
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 2: park either. But I do think it's kind of worth

1641
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 2: noting that, you know, the Lakers, who everyone in our

1642
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 2: business was ready to crown the NBA champion, now entering

1643
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 2: a tough stretch of the schedule. Three more road games

1644
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 2: on this trip, two games against Denver, two games against

1645
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 2: Milwaukee in their next seven, and I think Lebron you

1646
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: have to assume is going to be out for part

1647
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 2: of it.

1648
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 3: J Martin, Yeah, I would think so. Hopefully he's not

1649
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 3: out for too long, but you don't want to rush

1650
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 3: him back either. The other thing is, if they're as

1651
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 3: good as everybody tells us they are, then this doesn't matter.

1652
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 3: But ultimately, even not joking about it, I think that

1653
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 3: they're gonna be in the playoffs, they're gonna have their opportunity.

1654
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 3: So if you miss it a couple of weeks, it's

1655
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 3: not gonna be the end of the world. Don't rush

1656
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 3: him back in At his age, maybe it's all right

1657
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 3: to get a little bit of a break for a

1658
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 3: few weeks as well. Could be a blessing in disguise

1659
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 3: for him. Now, they may drop a seed or two

1660
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 3: as a result, but I mean, if they're gonna win,

1661
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to go through some tough opposition anyway

1662
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 3: along the way. So I kind of look at this

1663
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 3: more like, eh, hopefully as long as it's not something

1664
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 3: that lingers and calls this problems beyond what's expected, I

1665
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 3: think this will be fine whatever the Lakers were gonna be,

1666
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 3: and I don't think this changes the trajectory of whatever

1667
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 3: that was gonna be.

1668
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 2: So let's talk big picture. So you know, we're obviously

1669
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,759
Speaker 2: I think everybody knows, but we were being sarcastic about

1670
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 2: the state of the Lakers. But listen, they were playing well.

1671
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:36,839
Speaker 2: Luca is acclimating well. He and Lebron are two special players.

1672
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 2: And you know, we could joke about Lebron, but we

1673
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 2: know that at forty years old, he's doing stuff that

1674
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 2: we've never really seen before. But big picture, I mean,

1675
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 2: first of all, let me even just ask you this.

1676
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 2: I think this almost feels this Lebron growin tweak. It

1677
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 2: almost feels like a metaphor for why it was so

1678
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 2: hard for me to believe in this team to make

1679
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 2: a deep run. Because again it's obvious, but I'll say it,

1680
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 2: nobody's wishing injuries upon anybody. But we're talking about a

1681
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 2: fundamentally flawed team as it is, that will need basically

1682
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 2: Luca and Lebron to play at an elite level every

1683
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:21,520
Speaker 2: night for two straight months, four rounds of high leverage basketball.

1684
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 2: And I just don't know that Lebron at his age

1685
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 2: can continue to do that.

1686
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 3: Now.

1687
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 2: You know, he's luckily avoided any kind of catastrophic injuries

1688
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 2: throughout his career. We know that, but you know, he

1689
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 2: is a guy that has worn down in the playoffs

1690
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, certainly that run to the

1691
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: Western Conference finals two years ago. Luca, you and I

1692
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: might not still fully understand why Dallas traded him in

1693
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 2: the first place, but he did wear down by the

1694
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 2: NBA finals, and we heard that legendary Brian Windhorse sound

1695
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 2: of basically like, hey, dude, if you want to make

1696
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 2: it that final step, you need to get yourself in

1697
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 2: better shape. So I just bring it up because again,

1698
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 2: nobody wishes injuries upon anybody, but it does feel like

1699
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 2: a little bit of a metaphor where you basically need

1700
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 2: those guys operating at an insanely high level game over

1701
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 2: game over game in the playoffs, and it just feels like,

1702
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 2: is that something that is realistic to expect from this

1703
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 2: team at this time with a forty year old superstar

1704
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 2: and a twenty six year old superstar that we are

1705
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 2: led to believe was traded from his previous team because

1706
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 2: he can't stay in shape.

1707
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's true to a degree for everybody,

1708
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 3: but this team can't survive without both of them, first

1709
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 3: of all being available, but not just being available at

1710
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 3: being good. And you made that point, well, there are

1711
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 3: teams where most of the time, if your star goes down,

1712
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 3: you're not gonna be able to win. But there are

1713
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 3: some that are a little deeper and better equipped. At

1714
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 3: least this team is an injury or an absence of

1715
01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 3: Luca or Lebron away from probably getting blown out and swept.

1716
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 3: Like I mean, it's that big a deal. Nobody is

1717
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 3: ready to take a step up from where they already

1718
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 3: are in the pecking order on that team. There's no

1719
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 3: depth whatsoever to be found on that team. So you

1720
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 3: think about it there and it's just that that is

1721
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 3: really that's rough because again to your point, conditioning issues

1722
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 3: for Luca potentially, and then Lebron just being older, his

1723
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 3: body being a little bit more frail, as great as

1724
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 3: he's taking care of himself and all of those things.

1725
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 3: I mean, eventually, Father Tom's going to come for everybody,

1726
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 3: and he hasn't been quite as healthy in the last

1727
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 3: three years or so as he was prior to that.

1728
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 3: And you look at it, you know through that lens,

1729
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 3: is he going to be able you talk about him

1730
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 3: wearing down, I mean is his body going to hold

1731
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 3: up period through a what you would think is going

1732
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 3: to be a grueling, very difficult trip through the West,

1733
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 3: not to mention what you're going to be seeing coming

1734
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 3: out of the East, whether it's the Celtics team that

1735
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 3: was far better than you on Saturday night last night

1736
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 3: or someone else. So that's that's the biggest thing, is

1737
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 3: just there's no depth here. This is a team that

1738
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 3: is going to be made or broken by those two guys.

1739
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 3: I still don't think that's going to be enough. But

1740
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 3: even if you believe the media types that are trying

1741
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 3: to wish cast that into existence, they know just how

1742
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 3: treacherous that is. I mean they're on a scaffolding and

1743
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 3: there's a lot of wind blowing and you can get

1744
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 3: blown off real fast.

1745
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 2: Well, with the Lakers loss, now in third place behind

1746
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City and Denver, worth noting there are only a

1747
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 2: game and a half up on both Memphis and Houston,

1748
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 2: and so if Lebron is out for an extended period

1749
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 2: of time, you could see them tumble down those standings.

1750
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this really quick, is that you

1751
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 2: know you and I have been I don't I think

1752
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 2: negatives are right word, but I think realistic about maybe

1753
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 2: what they are and are not. How many teams do

1754
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 2: you actually think, specifically in the West, like, are actually

1755
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 2: a legitimate bad matchup with them over seven games? Is

1756
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 2: it just Denver is a Denver and OKC are the

1757
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 2: Warriors in that mix? The Rockets are obviously playing well

1758
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 2: but don't have much playoff experience. The Grizzlies jazz back

1759
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 2: all that, Like, how many teams in the West. Do

1760
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 2: you think if those two guys are at least on

1761
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 2: the court, Because you know, again forty year old twenty

1762
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 2: six year old that historically hasn't been in shape, stuff

1763
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 2: can happen. But if those guys are at least on

1764
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 2: the court and operating, it's something close to one hundred percent. Like,

1765
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 2: how many teams do you realistically think are actually a

1766
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 2: bad matchup for them?

1767
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. I don't think it's more

1768
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 3: than four, And I think four it's probably pushing it.

1769
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 3: If they're executing on the highest level possible, then I'd

1770
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 3: probably put them about fourth. I mean, I think Oka

1771
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 3: See and Denver are better overall teams with more depth.

1772
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 3: They're younger teams as well, so you look at that.

1773
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 3: So I put them there, and then probably would say

1774
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 3: either Memphis somebody else, whether it's Memphis, Houston, Golden State.

1775
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 3: There's a third team in that mix. I don't know

1776
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 3: exactly what it is. I'm not really sold on the

1777
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 3: Golden State thing either. Like we talked a lot about

1778
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 3: the Lakers, I also think the gold I think the

1779
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 3: Golden State stuff's a little bit overblown as well. And

1780
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 3: I'm gonna need to see that for a lot longer

1781
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 3: before I crown them. I don't have any problem crowning

1782
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 3: Steph Curry. Yeah, but I need to see this for

1783
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 3: a little bit longer than a couple of weeks before.

1784
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 3: I think the Warriors are now championship contenders. But I

1785
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 3: just think that this is what I think. I think

1786
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 3: that the Thunder and the Nuggets particularly, they're just a

1787
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 3: tier above everybody else. So then after that is okay,

1788
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 3: there are some other teams that just depended on just

1789
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 3: the circumstances and the way the series are playing out,

1790
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 3: the storylines, various injuries, some of the stuff that we

1791
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 3: don't see that goes on little details and things like that.

1792
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,520
Speaker 3: There's a couple of other teams that could be problematic

1793
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 3: for the Lakers, certainly in the playoffs. I don't think

1794
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 3: that they could look past almost anybody, just because again

1795
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 3: it's just even you're talking about a high level, but

1796
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 3: I mean, they're not gonna be able to play on

1797
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 3: a high level throughout the playoffs every single night. So

1798
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some series that go pretty long, and

1799
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 3: so there's just a lot of unknowns there.

1800
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:21,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I agree with you on you know, probably

1801
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 2: two or three teams. By the way, it's really funny.

1802
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 2: I'll be quick on this, but I was talking to Ian,

1803
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 2: who produces the show before us. Ian, of course, was

1804
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 2: our longtime producer on this show. And I walked in

1805
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 2: the studio and the Laker Celtics was obviously on the

1806
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 2: main screen, but then you know, Warriors Warriors Pistons was

1807
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 2: on the next screen, and I just looked at Ian.

1808
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 2: I said, there is not a story in sports that

1809
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 2: I care about less than the Golden State Warriors. And

1810
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 2: it's like and told I said, it's like a TV

1811
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 2: show that has gone on like two seasons too long

1812
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 2: and they try to just bring in another character to

1813
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 2: just completely like spice things up. And I'm like, I

1814
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 2: just I've seen it, and like you said, Steph's awesome,

1815
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 2: he's great. We know where Draymond is that at, you know,

1816
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 2: at this point in his career. I was like, it's

1817
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 2: just it's the TV show that tries to add the

1818
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 2: quirky character like in season eight, and it's like, we

1819
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 2: just need to end this show already. That's how I

1820
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 2: feel about the Warriors. I don't think they're a legitimate

1821
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 2: threat to make a legitimate run. Maybe I look stupid,

1822
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 2: but it's just one that I don't know. I just

1823
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 2: I think I do think. There are a lot of

1824
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 2: interesting stories in the NBA, ranging from Oka See Memphis

1825
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,719
Speaker 2: with jaw back, the rise of the Calves, Boston going

1826
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 2: for a second straight, Denver going for two out of three.

1827
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 2: I'll just be real. I don't think the Warriors with

1828
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:45,679
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler is one of them. I really don't.

1829
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 3: I don't either, and we could. Who knows. Maybe we're

1830
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 3: eating our words when we get to June, but we're

1831
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 3: gonna wait until we get to June before we eat

1832
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 3: those words. We're not going to step out onto a

1833
01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 3: limb on March ninth after a couple of weeks. It's just, man,

1834
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 3: there's a long there's still a lot of basketball that

1835
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 3: needs to be played. And as much as it might

1836
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,640
Speaker 3: create decent content for your television program, I just I

1837
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 3: would rather I would rather keep my powder dry and

1838
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 3: have some degree of integrity and objectivity At the end.

1839
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 2: Of this, well, and I'll just wrap by saying this

1840
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 2: is that if we're gonna talk about, you know, can

1841
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 2: forty year old Lebron and Luca, who is historically out

1842
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 2: of shape make it through four rounds. I think it's

1843
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 2: fair to ask if a team that's led by three

1844
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 2: dudes deep into their thirties can survive four rounds as well.

1845
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 2: And again, you know, I get the Warriors trying to

1846
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 2: extend this this steph window for as long as they

1847
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 2: possibly can. But again, you got three dudes that are

1848
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 2: well over thirty five at this point, and I guess

1849
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 2: I just have my questions on, you know, if they

1850
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 2: can if they can extend it beyond, you know, if

1851
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 2: they can make a real round. So Fox Sports Radio

1852
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,879
Speaker 2: Aertory Jason Martin, we are broadcasting live from the Tyreck

1853
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Come back. I got a little bit

1854
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 2: of an interesting take on Caitlyn Clark. Yeah, that's right.

1855
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark talked a lot about her last this time

1856
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:17,839
Speaker 2: last year, talked a lot about her during the summer.

1857
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 2: But I got something that I think is gonna make

1858
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 2: you think a little bit. That's next. Fox Sports Radio.

1859
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,280
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1860
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:29,679
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1861
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:33,920
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1862
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:34,679
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1863
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio er toors Jason Martin,

1864
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tirek dot Com studios. We are

1865
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:45,799
Speaker 2: taking you up till two am Eastern Time. Bernie Frado

1866
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 2: of The Bernie Frado Show follows us. Cannot wait to

1867
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:55,759
Speaker 2: hear what Bernie has to say about all things in sports, NBA, NFL,

1868
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 2: and of course it is March, which means a lot

1869
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 2: of college basketball. Speaking of basketball, A jmart So that

1870
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 2: time of year, you know, you're you're flipping channels all

1871
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 2: sorts of just random games at random times. And Thursday night,

1872
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 2: got home from dinner, was just looking for something to watch.

1873
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 2: There wasn't very much on. Well, I bring it up

1874
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 2: because just flipping channels, looking for a game. Flip over

1875
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,640
Speaker 2: to the Big Ten Network. Okay, Big ten Network is

1876
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 2: featuring the six eleven game in the women's Big Ten Tournament.

1877
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 2: Now normally, J Martin, I can't go back to every

1878
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 2: conversation we've ever had. I don't remember us talking about, uh,

1879
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 2: the six to eleven matchup in the Big Ten Women's

1880
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 2: Tournament very often. Maybe something happened, but I don't remember

1881
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 2: it well. I bring it up because you know who

1882
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 2: was playing in that game. Jmart The Iowa haw guys, Yes,

1883
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 2: the same Iowa. And I'll say this too. It kind

1884
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,719
Speaker 2: of struck me as I was watching, I was like, oh, Iowa,

1885
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 2: like and it just like I was like, have they been?

1886
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:57,560
Speaker 1: Oh?

1887
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 2: They weren't literally the biggest this story in sports at

1888
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 2: this time. A year ago, they were playing in the

1889
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 2: six to eleven game with Michigan State on Thursday night.

1890
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 2: They finished this year in a tie for eighth place

1891
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 2: in the Big Ten. They ended up losing that game,

1892
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 2: and it really struck me. Has there ever been an

1893
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 2: athlete I guess they actually won that game and lost

1894
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:25,799
Speaker 2: in the next round, But I bring it up because

1895
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 2: you go from being the biggest story in sports a

1896
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 2: year ago Iowa women's basketball, you make back to back

1897
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 2: national championship games. Last year you lose to Iowa, or

1898
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 2: last year you lose to South Carolina, excuse me, and

1899
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 2: now you're playing in the six to eleven game in

1900
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 2: front of what I would guess was mostly friends and family,

1901
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 2: And it really struck me. Has there ever been a

1902
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 2: college athlete? We know what she's done for the WNBA,

1903
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:53,679
Speaker 2: but a college athlete that has elevated a program more

1904
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 2: than Caitlin Clark? Because a year ago they were the

1905
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 2: biggest story in sports. I think the National Championship Game

1906
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 2: did something like twenty million viewers or something in South Carolina.

1907
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 2: Now they're playing in the six to eleven game in

1908
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 2: front of what I would guess, respectfully was probably a

1909
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 2: couple thousand fans.

1910
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Now. You you gave me this

1911
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 3: take several hours back, and I had two names in

1912
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 3: my head immediately, and I want to throw them out.

1913
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 3: I don't think either one of them quite gets there,

1914
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 3: and you can poke holes in both of them. But

1915
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 3: there were two names that immediately leap to mind because

1916
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 3: I was just thinking about who were to just transcendent.

1917
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 3: Everybody was paying attention to them. College athletes at programs

1918
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 3: that didn't matter prior and pretty much didn't matter after.

1919
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to go in order. I'm going to get

1920
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 3: to the one I think is probably the better case. Second.

1921
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:53,919
Speaker 3: But the first one would be Steph Curry at Davidson.

1922
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good one.

1923
01:36:56,000 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 3: Because nobody cared about Davidson at all. And then of

1924
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:05,759
Speaker 3: course Steph Curry we cared going into that NCAA tournament

1925
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 3: where they had a nice deep run. Now it wasn't

1926
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:10,640
Speaker 3: quite the same because we weren't all watching David's in

1927
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 3: regular season basketball. So and of course they didn't get

1928
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 3: quite as far as Iowa did. And you know, again,

1929
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 3: you're talking about women's basketball, so you're talking about almost

1930
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 3: nobody going to the games to sellouts anywhere to watch her.

1931
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 3: So I don't think that it quite rises to that level.

1932
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 3: But that would be that would be my first one,

1933
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 3: So poke holes in that one before I get to

1934
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 3: the one that I like a little better.

1935
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 2: The only thing I would say, and I don't totally

1936
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 2: remember everything. I think it was a short window where

1937
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 2: it became a really big thing because Steph was basically Steph.

1938
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 2: Like I remember a second round game against Georgetown where

1939
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 2: they probably Georgetown probably would have been like a three

1940
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 2: seed maybe, and he went off for like thirty six

1941
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 2: or thirty eight or something like that. And so then

1942
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:05,719
Speaker 2: it goes into the next weekend and it's like, oh,

1943
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 2: this thing is for real. And I vividly remember this

1944
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 2: is that they played a Friday night Sweet sixteen game.

1945
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look this up, but I vividly remember Sweet

1946
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 2: sixteen game in in in uh let me see here,

1947
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 2: Hold on one second, it was in Detroit. I vividly

1948
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 2: remember this, and it was against Wisconsin. Steph Curry, I'm

1949
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 2: looking it up right now, went for thirty three in

1950
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 2: that game. You can go back and look this up.

1951
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 2: He had this wild up and under Gus Johnson was

1952
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 2: on the call. Gus was going Gus. By the way,

1953
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 2: Steph had thirty against Georgetown and that was a two

1954
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 2: to ten matchup in round two, so it was really big.

1955
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 2: They do lose in the Elite eight. The one parallel

1956
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 2: that I would say is that there was the crossover

1957
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:55,640
Speaker 2: into the following season, a little bit like Caitlin Clark. Now,

1958
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 2: it never got as big. He wasn't setting records. David'son

1959
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 2: the following year wasn't as good. Uh And actually I

1960
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 2: don't believe they even made the NCAA tournament the following year.

1961
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 2: But I just bring it up because I think there

1962
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 2: are a lot of parallels there. But I will say this,

1963
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 2: it wasn't as big, it wasn't as extended. But one

1964
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 2: you talk about going from nothing to something immediately, there's

1965
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 2: a carryover and then the immediate fall off after he leaves.

1966
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:25,599
Speaker 2: I would just say it was confined to a very narrow,

1967
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 2: probably two to three week window.

1968
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so I agree with that, and that's and

1969
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 3: this one, this next one, which I like better, I

1970
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 3: also don't love because of kind of the aftermath of it,

1971
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 3: not for the program but for the athlete in particular.

1972
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 3: The second one is Jimmer for debt ooh at BYU.

1973
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 3: I understand at b Yu's right right now, but I

1974
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 3: get that. I like the difference. The difference from me

1975
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 3: here with Jimmer is Jimmer didn't do anything in the pros.

1976
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 3: I mean, went Sacramento, but didn't really ever do anything

1977
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 3: in the pros. And Kaitlin Clark is going to have

1978
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 3: a good pro career, but no one knew or cared

1979
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 3: about anything but BYU football. And then Jim Orferdet Jim Ermania,

1980
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:13,719
Speaker 3: if I remember right, lasted for a season.

1981
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

1982
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 3: A big deal because he was just he was making

1983
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 3: shots from everywhere, and like I think it started in

1984
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 3: the tournament and then he came back and it was

1985
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 3: hot the next year, which is very similar to what

1986
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 3: we saw with Caitlyn Clark. And then BYU went back

1987
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 3: to being a football school the second that he left.

1988
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 3: He just didn't have the success, and of course BYU

1989
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 3: didn't go as deep anywhere near as deep as Iowa did,

1990
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 3: but he certainly didn't have the pro level success that

1991
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 3: that Caitlin Clark is going to. But I still think

1992
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:43,879
Speaker 3: that one's a little bit closer.

1993
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 2: So I like that one too, and I think it's

1994
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 2: the same thing, and I think we're going to get

1995
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 2: to the same point of there there is. I don't

1996
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 2: think there's anything quite like Caitlyn Clark. But that is

1997
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 2: a really good one because that season, like that was

1998
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 2: the story every single game. And and by the way,

1999
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 2: similar player deep threes, you know, thirty five on any

2000
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 2: given night, and it was I mean it was. It

2001
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 2: was at a school that nobody cared about before, nobody

2002
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 2: has really cared about since. And yeah, I think I

2003
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 2: think those are two really good ones. I couldn't come

2004
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:23,600
Speaker 2: up with anything good. This was the best one that

2005
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 2: I could come up with, and I think it sucks.

2006
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 2: I actually think yours are much better than mine. I

2007
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 2: do think like that one season of Cam Newton at Auburn,

2008
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 2: where it was like every single year it just built up,

2009
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 2: built every single week, excuse me, it just built up,

2010
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 2: built up, built up, And they were I don't remember now,

2011
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 2: but like Fringe Top twenty five, and by the end

2012
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 2: of the year, it's like, oh my god, this is unbelievable.

2013
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 2: And then they immediately went, you know, gene Chizick got fired,

2014
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 2: I believe not the following year but the year after that.

2015
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 2: That was one that I thought of. But listen, Auburn

2016
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 2: has played for a national championship since then, So that's

2017
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 2: why I didn't love that parallel, but just shows you

2018
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 2: the impact of Kaitlyn Clark. And you know, obviously the

2019
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 2: other thing too, is like the trickle up effect to

2020
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:10,200
Speaker 2: the WNBA. But yeah, I actually like yours a lot.

2021
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 2: J mart of Jim or Fredette I think is a

2022
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 2: really good one. I think Steph is a really good

2023
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 2: one as well. I don't know that there's been anybody

2024
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:20,679
Speaker 2: quite like Kaitlyn Clark before since then.

2025
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 3: No, I mean, all credits are but yeah, I mean

2026
01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 3: your point is right. When you said that you had

2027
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 3: watched some of that, I was like, you did what?

2028
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 3: But then it was just like, the take makes all

2029
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 3: the sense in the world. I mean, right now, it's

2030
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 3: almost as if they don't have a program with no

2031
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 3: disrespect to the women that are playing or the girls

2032
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 3: that are playing, not nothing about their ability or whatever.

2033
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:45,920
Speaker 3: It's just like they don't there's no attention paid whatsoever.

2034
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 3: Like you go from completely sold out to you could

2035
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 3: hear a pin drop. That's got to be a dramatic shift,

2036
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 3: especially for those that played with her last year. I

2037
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 3: know that's almost got to feel like I don't even

2038
01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 3: know what that would feel like, but that it would

2039
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:01,800
Speaker 3: be hard to get psyched up to play basketball after

2040
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,679
Speaker 3: getting used to what you got used to the last

2041
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 3: season and a third or whatever that was, to then

2042
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 3: go back in there to where you got to be

2043
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 3: careful and not actually use any curse, use any bad

2044
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 3: language on the court because everyone's gonna hear it in

2045
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 3: the building.

2046
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 2: It's a very interesting conversation. And I think you did

2047
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 2: a good job of, you know, thinking of a couple

2048
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 2: And I will add I'm glad I told you before

2049
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 2: because I thought I thought you came up with a

2050
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 2: couple of really good ones. An y. I can't even

2051
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 2: imagine what it's like for those girls that were part

2052
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:34,839
Speaker 2: of back to back national runners up who were playing

2053
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 2: in the six to eleven game in the late game

2054
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 2: at the Big Ten Women's Tournament earlier this week, Fox

2055
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 2: Sports radio eritwords Jason Martin will come back. I got

2056
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 2: a little spin off off the Caitlin Clark thing how

2057
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 2: it might impact future men's stars. Will do that next

2058
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 2: before we do though final time this evening, Steve Di

2059
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:52,839
Speaker 2: sigger what is trending?

2060
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 6: And then I'm glad you mentioned Steph Curry Davidson. That

2061
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 6: was the first name I thought of. Also maybe John

2062
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:03,799
Speaker 6: Morant with Murray State, and also looking things up, Buddy

2063
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:08,520
Speaker 6: Heal got Oklahoma to the Final four. What has Oklahoma

2064
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 6: basketball been the past decade?

2065
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 3: Two guys that you could probably name off the top

2066
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 3: of your head him and Blake.

2067
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I thought you meant on that team. I

2068
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 2: was like, I can't name another guy off that team.

2069
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, no, I.

2070
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:23,559
Speaker 3: Say, like in that program, like Trey Young standout? Yeah, treyon.

2071
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 2: But those are the three right there, That's the big three.

2072
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 6: So when Oklahoma today won at Texas to finish the

2073
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:33,599
Speaker 6: regular season, each team finished six and twelve in the SEC.

2074
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 6: This was the final weekend of the men's regular season.

2075
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 6: Haven't mentioned much about women's hoops tonight, but there are

2076
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 6: going to be some great conference title games tomorrow in

2077
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:47,759
Speaker 6: the SEC tournament semifinal wins today for number one Texas,

2078
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 6: which beat ninth ranked LSU. South Carolina won its top

2079
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 6: ten matchup against Oklahoma. So it's South Carolina against two

2080
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 6: seed Texas. Yes, Texas seed at second in the conference

2081
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 6: and r number one in the country. It's going to

2082
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 6: be number two ranked USC against number four UCLA tomorrow

2083
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 6: for the Big Ten Crown, as they each won semifinals today.

2084
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 6: UCLA dominated Ohio State, USC was tied with about six

2085
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 6: minutes to go and then beat Michigan ACC semifinals Duke

2086
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:20,799
Speaker 6: over Notre Dame, NC State beat North Carolina Big twelve

2087
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:24,680
Speaker 6: semis eighth ranked TCU over West Virginia. Baylor won in

2088
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 6: overtime against Oklahoma State. Each team I was just mentioning

2089
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 6: these last two conferences. They're all ranked and number three

2090
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 6: Connecticut won its game today seventy one forty over Saint John's.

2091
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:39,559
Speaker 6: Congratulations on the men's side to SIU Edwardsville for the

2092
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 6: first time. It's going to the dance Tonight was the

2093
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 6: first conference tournament title game. It was in the Ohio

2094
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 6: Valley that team won, beating first place Southeast Missouri State,

2095
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 6: and as Sarah mentioned earlier, Omaha just by getting to

2096
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 6: its conference final tomorrow night is advancing because their opponent

2097
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 6: tomorrow is not yet eligible for the NCAA Tournament. Selection

2098
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 6: Sunday for the NCAA Tournament field is just over a

2099
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 6: week away. March the sixteenth, Alabama won in overtime at

2100
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:09,679
Speaker 6: number one Auburn on a jumper at the Buzzer, ninety

2101
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 6: three to ninety one. Wins in the top five for

2102
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 6: Duke and Houston, for Tennessee and Florida, and six ranks.

2103
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 6: Saint John's won in overtime at the Buzzer at Marquette,

2104
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 6: eighty six to eighty four. In the NBA, Boston beat

2105
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 6: the Lakers ended LA's eight game winning streak one eleven

2106
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 6: to one oh one. Despite thirty four points from Luka,

2107
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 6: Doncic Jason Tatum forty points, Boston was up twenty two

2108
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 6: at one point in the second half, it was eighty

2109
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 6: to fifty eight. Lebron James had twenty two points but

2110
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 6: left with a string groin. Orlando ended a five game

2111
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:44,640
Speaker 6: losing streak, winning by two at Milwaukee. Washington got a

2112
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 6: one point win at Toronto, and Charlotte, which had lost

2113
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:50,639
Speaker 6: nine straight, edge Brooklyn one oh five one oh two.

2114
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 6: The Nets have lost seven straight Philadelphia's Paul George is

2115
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 6: out Sunday and Monday with a sore groin. Miami's bam

2116
01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 6: Adebayo find fifty thousand dollars through his behavior toured an official.

2117
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 6: After Friday's loss. New York reportedly got PJ. Tucker on

2118
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 6: a ten day contract. The Calves have won thirteen in

2119
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 6: a row. They'll be at Milwaukee Sunday. Cavaliers are averaging

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01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty six points per game during their

2121
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 6: win streak. The NHL late game to Edmonton five to

2122
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:20,840
Speaker 6: four over Dallas. Earlier, Colorado beat Toronto seven to four.

2123
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 6: Saints quarterback Derek Carr is restructuring his contract clearing cap space.

2124
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:28,599
Speaker 6: The Chiefs resigned wide receiver Hollywood Brown. Tight end Mike

2125
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 6: Kasicki resigned with the Bengals. The Ravens resigned left tackle

2126
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 6: Ronnie Stanley, the Giants resigned punter Jamie Gillen, and Buffalo

2127
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:39,759
Speaker 6: gave defensive end Greg Russeau a four year extension. Quarterback

2128
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 6: Sam Darnold, according to the NFL Network, is not expected

2129
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 6: to resign with Minnesota, and of course, on Friday, Seattle

2130
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 6: just traded quarterback Gino Smith to Las Vegas Washington is

2131
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 6: resigning tight end zach Ertz.

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01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:51,879
Speaker 2: A reminder.

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Speaker 6: Next week, March twelfth is the first day of the

2134
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:57,640
Speaker 6: NFL's new league year. Former running back Eddie George is

2135
01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:00,599
Speaker 6: reportedly a finalist to be head coach at bowling he's

2136
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 6: been at Tennessee State. Yankees dh Gencarlo Stanton says his

2137
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 6: elbow injuries have been deemed severe. Yankee pitcher Garrett Cole

2138
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 6: says he's concerned about his pitching elbow. He started tests

2139
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:14,719
Speaker 6: on it. Braves. Left fielder Jerrekson Profar left his exhibition

2140
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,559
Speaker 6: today with a jammed wrist after trying a diving catch.

2141
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 6: Pitcher for the Rangers, Jacob de Gram in his spring

2142
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 6: debut through two perfect innings. Time of the game was

2143
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 6: two hours, one minute in a five to three win

2144
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 6: over the Royals. Pitcher Max Scherzer is now with Toronto.

2145
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 6: In his three starts in spring so far, he has

2146
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 6: fourteen strikeouts, no walks. Great today against Detroit Tigers signed

2147
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:38,920
Speaker 6: former Houston pitcher Jose or Keaty and Dodgers pitcher Tyler

2148
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:41,680
Speaker 6: glassnow struck out six in his three innings against the

2149
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 6: White Sox. A reminder, it is daylight savings for most

2150
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,719
Speaker 6: of us this weekend, oh wow, which does mean tonight,

2151
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 6: and we do have live golf on FS one right

2152
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 6: now the final round of the Live Golf tournament in

2153
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 6: Hong Kong. Sergio Garcia has a two stroke lead about

2154
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:01,719
Speaker 6: halfway through this final round, and we will have NASCAR

2155
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 6: on FS one from Phoenix Sunday's Cup race back to you.

2156
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,799
Speaker 2: I'll be real, had zero idea. This week was daylight

2157
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 2: savings time, so this is tonight, that's correct, okay, So

2158
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:14,959
Speaker 2: we moved the clocks back an hour for spring ahead. Okay,

2159
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 2: so we gain the hour, No, no, we lose the hours.

2160
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 6: We get to the morning quicker.

2161
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 2: So Leslie, I took a nice long map today.

2162
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 3: So anyway, Bernie Froud is going to have to talk faster, faster, okay, tonight,

2163
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 3: so three hours. I think he wants to short change

2164
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 3: his takes because he's always he has a head full

2165
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 3: of takes that he has to get out, and an

2166
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 3: hour shorter just means he's gonna have to go full

2167
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 3: John Mashida from the old micro Machines commercials and just

2168
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:46,759
Speaker 3: talk as fast as humanly. He already talks relatively quickly.

2169
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 3: I didn't know anybody some stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no,

2170
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 3: I know worthless stuff like I know a ton of

2171
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:57,600
Speaker 3: just incredibly, I'm a.

2172
01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:00,759
Speaker 6: He could talk so fast he could put a sixty

2173
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 6: second spot in thirty seconds.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Oh wow, he had the world record for a time.

2175
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 2: This is all news to me. Well, Bernie Fratto is

2176
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 2: gonna be trying to break a world record in twenty

2177
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 2: two minutes from now. But I'll tell you what, j

2178
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 2: Mart will come back. I got a spicy Cooper flag take.

2179
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 2: I don't know if the world's ready for. We're gonna

2180
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:24,040
Speaker 2: discuss that next Fox Sports, Rady, j Mart. Do you

2181
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:24,680
Speaker 2: know what this is?

2182
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 3: Uh?

2183
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 2: No, great producing by Brie. You could play you could

2184
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:33,760
Speaker 2: play it a little low. Uh. Rick Patino was on

2185
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:40,280
Speaker 2: Jimmy Fallon the other night and they did a scripted

2186
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 2: corny skit. It's actually funny. You should find it on

2187
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 2: YouTube or Twitter or whatever, where it's basically like an

2188
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 2: old sea captain that's seeing a red storm in the distance,

2189
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 2: and that sea captain is Jimmy Fallon. And you know

2190
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 2: they have this song which you could turn back up

2191
01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 2: Mary and uh they have all the players singing along

2192
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:04,639
Speaker 2: and the players look like they're in a hostage video.

2193
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 2: But this thing will get stuck in your head. I'm

2194
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:11,000
Speaker 2: not gonna lie. I heard it first thing yesterday morning,

2195
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 2: and it was pretty much stuck in my head all

2196
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 2: day yesterday. We're gonna say that, I.

2197
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 3: Was gonna say it's based off of song Soon made

2198
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 3: the Wellerman come.

2199
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 2: That's happy. Yeah, there's an actual song.

2200
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. I knew this, so I know the song, and.

2201
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,760
Speaker 2: They just made a parody out of it. But the

2202
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 2: song is really really good too. But this I thought wasious.

2203
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:31,840
Speaker 2: It's such a boomer. I don't know any I don't

2204
01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:33,639
Speaker 2: know anything about anything that's not sports.

2205
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 3: That's so bad.

2206
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 2: I didn't know that was an actual song. But yeah,

2207
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 2: they did a They did a spoof for that apparently,

2208
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 2: with with Rick Patino and the Saint John's players. Is

2209
01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:45,599
Speaker 2: actually pretty funny and it's well done, and Saint John's

2210
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 2: is certainly a fun story in college hoops. So I

2211
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 2: want to wrap on this. J Mart, By the way,

2212
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 2: best week of the year is my favorite week of

2213
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 2: the year with all the conference tournaments. I like it

2214
01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 2: more than the NCAA tournament. Maybe that's a conversation for

2215
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:01,960
Speaker 2: next week. But so we before we got to Disaga

2216
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 2: last segment, we did talk a little bit about Caitlin Clark,

2217
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 2: and so, you know, obviously in men's basketball right now,

2218
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:12,560
Speaker 2: the big story is Cooper Flagg, who's obviously gonna be

2219
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:14,760
Speaker 2: the number one pick, blah blah blah whatever. And so

2220
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 2: I bring it up because you know, there's been a

2221
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 2: little bit of a narrative. I thought the quote was overblown.

2222
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:23,600
Speaker 2: So Cooper Flagg did a like literally there was like

2223
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:26,599
Speaker 2: a five thousand word profile in The Athletic and there

2224
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 2: was like one line where he said, yeah, man, you know,

2225
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 2: would totally love to come back. And so this became

2226
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:36,599
Speaker 2: a narrative in the media of like, oh, it's Cooper

2227
01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 2: Flagg gonna come back, and it's like, well, he's not

2228
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 2: coming back, okay, whatever. But then I did see, you know,

2229
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 2: certain people bring up the conversation of, hey, if he

2230
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 2: doesn't want to go to the Wizards, if he doesn't

2231
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 2: want to go to wherever, you know, should he return

2232
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 2: to college? And so I have a little bit of

2233
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 2: a play off of that. J Mart. Where I was

2234
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 2: thinking about it this week is that I don't think

2235
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 2: guys will hold out or return to college just because

2236
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 2: they don't want to go somewhere, Like I don't think

2237
01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:07,600
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen. But where the Caitlyn Clark twist comes in,

2238
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 2: and we've talked about this. What made the Caitlin Clark

2239
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 2: story so big was not just that she's amazing, but

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01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 2: it's because she's an amazing player who played four years

2241
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 2: of college basketball, and really all of the main characters

2242
01:53:20,360 --> 01:53:24,839
Speaker 2: in her story returned year over year. Right, Angel Reese

2243
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 2: LSU South Carolina, you know, Paige Beckers emerges at yukon whatever.

2244
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 2: And so clearly it's been great for women's basketball to

2245
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:36,799
Speaker 2: have the best players play four years of college basketball.

2246
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 2: Kaitlin Clark, Angel ree Juju Watkins is gonna probably play

2247
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 2: four years. Paige Beckers, I believe he's played five. So

2248
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 2: I bring it up with Cooper Flag and with college

2249
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:49,599
Speaker 2: basketball is because one, I certainly think it would help

2250
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:51,880
Speaker 2: the men's game for players to stay longer. But this

2251
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:54,840
Speaker 2: is my take. I think we are going to see

2252
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:58,519
Speaker 2: a Cooper Flag level player return to college for a

2253
01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 2: couple different reasons. At some point it's not gonna be

2254
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag. But my argument is basically this is that

2255
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 2: one the powers that be in college certainly wanted two

2256
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 2: we and by the way, I understand the economics. I

2257
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 2: understand how much a guaranteed contract in the NBA is worth, Okay,

2258
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 2: But here is my true belief is that one first

2259
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 2: of all college basketball players are making insane amounts of

2260
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 2: money right now, Okay, and it's because of the actual endorsements,

2261
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 2: not just anio from the school. Right, I'm sure Cooper

2262
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:32,760
Speaker 2: Flag's making a lot of money from Duke, but he

2263
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 2: has an endorsement deal with Gatorad, He's got an indorsement

2264
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 2: deal with New Balance whatever. But I was thinking about

2265
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 2: this is like, say Cooper Flag had a deal with Nike, right,

2266
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:46,200
Speaker 2: and he's playing at Duke. If you're Nike and say

2267
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag is you know you're paying Cooper Flag. I

2268
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 2: think Zion made like fifteen a year in his rookie contract.

2269
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 2: If you're Nike, isn't Cooper Flag more valuable to you

2270
01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 2: as a marketing tool in a Duke uniform playing forty

2271
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 2: games a year on national television than playing for the

2272
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 2: Washington Wizards or playing for the Brooklyn Nets, or playing

2273
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:12,000
Speaker 2: for somebody where they're gonna stink probably for several years,

2274
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be on national TV. I think that's

2275
01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 2: where we could see guys come back is a Nike

2276
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 2: and Adidas and under Armour basically says we'll pay you

2277
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 2: at ten million. You know we're gonna give you the

2278
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:26,920
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar deal anyway, but let's start it

2279
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:28,840
Speaker 2: when you're in college. Let's keep you in college for

2280
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:32,240
Speaker 2: another year. Let's continue to build that brand. And then, oh,

2281
01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 2: by the way, like eventually you're gonna go to the NBA,

2282
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:38,640
Speaker 2: but you know, you come back to college or we

2283
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 2: use Duke or Yukon or Kansas or whatever as a

2284
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 2: marketing tool. I don't know. I think it is going

2285
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 2: to happen. I think there is momentum for college basketball nil.

2286
01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 2: I think these I think the best athletes that can

2287
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:57,560
Speaker 2: really sign these real deals are making way more money

2288
01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 2: than people realize. And I understand there's a big difference

2289
01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 2: between guaranteed NBA contracts and anything you can make in NIL.

2290
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 2: But I believe that is going to happen, like in

2291
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 2: the next three to four years.

2292
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you're gonna have to give me a

2293
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 3: reason to go pro if I'm already basically a pro

2294
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 3: and there's a known quantity at Duke where I can

2295
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 3: compete for a championship again next year, and I'm not

2296
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:23,680
Speaker 3: going to be doing that in the NBA, even if

2297
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 3: I'm the best player in the world at that point

2298
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 3: in time. I think what's also true is if you

2299
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 3: want to go to the Wizards, you can still go

2300
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 3: there in two years because they're still going to have

2301
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 3: a good shot at having that pick. Like that's the

2302
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:39,960
Speaker 3: other thing, Like it doesn't work to just say I'm

2303
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 3: going to go dodge X team by going back to school,

2304
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 3: because the way the NBA works, a lot of these

2305
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:51,640
Speaker 3: teams are bad forever. They're bad for a long long time,

2306
01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 3: and they're bad for reasons, usually decision making, front office,

2307
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:59,600
Speaker 3: overpaying guys that aren't you getting the job done and

2308
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:01,960
Speaker 3: all that stuff. I mean, let's say it is Washington.

2309
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 3: Washington's really bad. Washington's really going to be bad next

2310
01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 3: year too, So they're gonna have another opportunity to go

2311
01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 3: get Cooper flag. So if he stays or if he

2312
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:13,800
Speaker 3: was following just that that idea which was tossed out there,

2313
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:15,720
Speaker 3: I mean, it probably wouldn't work. It would just delay

2314
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:17,960
Speaker 3: it for another year. But I think your point is

2315
01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:21,160
Speaker 3: more real. And I mean, look, we talked about Caitlyn Clark,

2316
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 3: and we mentioned this at the time, although we didn't

2317
01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 3: know we were then going to be having this conversation

2318
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 3: about Cooper Flag a year later. But there was a

2319
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:34,800
Speaker 3: reason why Caitlyn Clark could have stayed at Iowa. Yeah,

2320
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:39,640
Speaker 3: like there was a reason, like she stays there. I mean,

2321
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 3: she's still the show and they're gonna pay her whatever,

2322
01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 3: and she's I mean, you talk about elevating college basketball,

2323
01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 3: and we talked about what's happened to the Iowa program

2324
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:50,880
Speaker 3: since I mean, what would they have paid to have

2325
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:55,000
Speaker 3: had this experience, this hride go one more year and

2326
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 3: have all of these games and all these things being

2327
01:57:57,080 --> 01:58:00,120
Speaker 3: paid attention to. And that's in Iowa. Like here we're

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Speaker 3: talking about Duke. We're talking about kind of the brand

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Speaker 3: in college basketball. So yeah, I mean the checkbook is blank, basically,

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Speaker 3: like whatever it is it takes. If Cooper Flag is

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Speaker 3: going to bring that many people, that many eyeballs, that

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Speaker 3: much money, that much extra marketing, and then that time

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Speaker 3: and then if Cooper Flagg realizes that why rush going

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Speaker 3: to what's going to become an almost immediately inferior product

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Speaker 3: because you're just not going to be able to stand

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Speaker 3: out on an awful team.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I thought I was gonna get much more pushback

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Speaker 2: on that.

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Speaker 3: Because I don't think so. I think it makes all

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Speaker 3: the sense in the world, honestly.

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Speaker 2: No, and I appreciate that because as soon as I

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Speaker 2: say that, the default is they'll never turn down the

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Speaker 2: guaranteed money of the And it's like, I'm just telling you,

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Speaker 2: like Debant said, the kid that's going to b YU

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Speaker 2: next year, like he has a shoe deal coming up,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know what he's going to get. And

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Speaker 2: I don't think BYU respectfully. I don't think BYU is

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Speaker 2: the school that you're going to stay at for the

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Speaker 2: extra year. But if that kid was at Duke, if

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Speaker 2: that kid was at Carolina, it's like it's worth it

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Speaker 2: for Jordan Brand, for Nike to keep them in school

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Speaker 2: for an extra two three four year, not four, but

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Speaker 2: extra year or two and capitalize on that. I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you what, though, Jay mart we gotta go. I want

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Speaker 2: to thank the crew, Mary Mack on the board, producer

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Speaker 2: Bree great producing there in the final segment. I really

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Speaker 2: did enjoy that. From my partner Steve, from my partner

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin. Also thank you to Steve Disager. I am

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Speaker 2: Air Tours we got to get out of here. Make

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Speaker 2: sure to download the podcast, available shortly after the show.

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fredo coming up next. All sorts of good stuff

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Speaker 2: from Bernie. Appreciate you listening.

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