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Speaker 2: Real good, let's just keep it real straight shout with

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Speaker 2: no Chason. So I'm gonna get a little bit rougher.

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Speaker 2: I'm here for it. Those who really believed in the

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Speaker 2: American process, all of us Street shot no Chase with

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Speaker 2: your girls tend to figure out on the Black Effect

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Speaker 2: podcast net work.

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Speaker 3: All right, straight shooters.

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Speaker 2: The Tennessee three topic was such a hot topic that

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Speaker 2: I wanted to hear from you, so I hosted a

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Speaker 2: three hour Twitter space with people with opposing views. Now,

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Speaker 2: no worries. I won't ask you to sit through all

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Speaker 2: three hours at once, but my phenomenal producer shout out

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Speaker 2: to Dwayne, has broken it down into three parts. We

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Speaker 2: will be releasing this over the next three weeks. This

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Speaker 2: is part two. And I don't tell you to vote

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Speaker 2: for people that you don't believe in. Don't but then

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Speaker 2: run somebody. Then run somebody you you you support and

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Speaker 2: I got news for you if you ever ran a

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Speaker 2: I'm bringing him up next, but I got news for you.

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Speaker 2: The non voters, they're never even a part of the equation.

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Speaker 2: It is always people that don't vote. It's always going

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Speaker 2: to be more people that don't vote that do vote.

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Speaker 2: Should the conversation be out there that if you don't

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Speaker 2: don't vote. Yes, I support that. I think provocative conversations

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Speaker 2: are important. But when you actually go into the van system,

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Speaker 2: the voter action network system, we strategically go look for

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Speaker 2: the win number. It's called the win number, and it

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Speaker 2: means that I can have one hundred and a lot

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Speaker 2: four hundred thousand registered voters, and I only need twelve

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Speaker 2: So all I gotta do is go five twelve, twelve

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Speaker 2: It's not a threat to them, y'all. I just want

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Speaker 4: That's why they don't rep that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't give a damn. Now, if you want

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Speaker 2: to be a threat, this is how you do it.

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Speaker 2: You go split the vote. You go say hey, if

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Speaker 2: if such and such needs twelve hundred. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: get six hundred to go vote for Danny. Now you're

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Speaker 2: splitting the vote so you don't have to vote for

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Speaker 2: the piss poor candidate. But I'm telling you the no

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Speaker 2: you're not coming up with a new strategy. Guys, it's

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Speaker 2: more people in the cut. That's why the NAACP and

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Speaker 2: are always talking about registering voters, registered voters. I don't

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Speaker 2: six hundred, that's all. Let me go find six hundred,

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Speaker 2: go to getwo hundred over here. I'm get a hundred

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Speaker 2: So when you're hearing that, it tells me there's a

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Speaker 5: And then don't let it be more than folk candidates

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Speaker 5: So you ain't gotta go and get that many votes.

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Speaker 2: That's it, And they could be by fifty people. The

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Speaker 2: I've been asking her to run literally for ten years,

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Speaker 2: Oh no, talk about I'm here to give y'all a game.

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Speaker 2: If you want to piss off the establishment, go get

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Speaker 4: I've been saying that. I said, I appreciate and that

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Speaker 4: next step. The next step if we run as a candidate,

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Speaker 4: I've been saying that from the mountain top, Danny, give

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Speaker 1: It's up, Yes, matte Chez. I appreciate your inviody, mother speaking,

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Speaker 5: I definitely wanted to bring my words, especially with you

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Speaker 1: All politics is local.

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Speaker 5: Everything leads back to that city council person, that county commissioner,

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Speaker 5: So when you talk about going block by block, precint

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Speaker 5: it's not the sexy position. It's it's not the position

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Speaker 5: man Man. I don't know if you have already talked

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Speaker 5: that have been fighting not only for reparations, they have

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Speaker 1: So I'm calling, I'm talking.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna approach you many man, and that's that you

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Speaker 5: retract those tweets and take them down, bro, especially after

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Speaker 1: What you got to say?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Tammy Sawyer told me already that one of them,

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Speaker 4: at least I think, has been talking about reparations.

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Speaker 6: I told them, Okay, Well, I definitely stand corrected, applaud

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Speaker 6: my mistakes? And that's why what Tammy Swayer corrected me,

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Speaker 6: the Republicans weaponized. It was not one for reparations, which

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Speaker 4: I think she was referring she mentioned one of those specifically.

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Speaker 4: And I pray he continues.

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Speaker 7: And I've always said at the beginning that what happens

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Speaker 4: Of that government body just by voting, that's a quick

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Speaker 5: But that was my very issue right there, especially with

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Speaker 5: appreciate your response. I don't want to get into a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we addressed it also, thank you Danny. We

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Speaker 2: So Danny is from Tennessee, so obviously you know him

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Speaker 2: and Tammy, you know they did. They taken it, you know, personal,

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Speaker 2: as they should, just like people support Marcel and take

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Speaker 2: And and my main point is even if they wasn't

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Speaker 2: this is not about justin or them, particularly you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm more concerned about the constituents that voted them in

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Speaker 2: So when you come challenge me, yeah, I'm gonna hit

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Speaker 5: what's the line. I don't know the line between me.

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Speaker 5: You know me, I'm Danny. You know how it rock,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm moving for all that type of shit,

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Speaker 5: my question to the group is what is that line

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Speaker 2: If you don't like how Danny rocking, then go to

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Speaker 2: trying to figure out who coon and who ain't coon.

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Speaker 2: And that's online talk. So people can't be bothered by

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Speaker 2: what somebody say online, because the challenge is always gonna

436
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Speaker 2: come down to if you don't like it, then you

437
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Speaker 2: move it. And in Michigan, I was very proud, even

438
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Speaker 2: though I constantly am a critique of Bernie Sanders, I

439
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Speaker 2: still was very proud to say that we flipped that

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Speaker 2: state by two percent upset based upon organizing on the

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Speaker 2: ground in the snow. So we were never online during

442
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Speaker 2: that time when we were all advocating, we were never online.

443
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Speaker 2: We wasn't tweeting about new streets, we wasn't posting about shit.

444
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Speaker 2: We weren't doing any of that. We were getting it done.

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Speaker 2: So you uh, And just so you guys don't know,

446
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Speaker 2: Daddy was the organizer of the HBCU too. So when

447
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Speaker 2: and we were so busy fighting people within our own

448
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Speaker 2: campaign of trying to make sure black voices were heard,

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Speaker 2: if we've had time to be arguing on people on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: So I would just say, Danny that people shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: bothered by what other people say. People just need to

452
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Speaker 2: do the work. And if you're online and you say

453
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Speaker 2: somebody ain't on cold or somebody's cooning, then guess what,

454
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Speaker 2: run somebody against them? Are you a coon too? So

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Speaker 2: that's how I said, that's the barometer. What action are

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Speaker 2: you putting in the game? Telling somebody else down the

457
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Speaker 2: street how they man should be treating you and not

458
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Speaker 2: treating you. Doesn't matter that person's not listening to you

459
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Speaker 2: because you don't have any power to put them in

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Speaker 2: or put them out. Until you get power to put

461
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Speaker 2: them in and put you out, they're not listening to you.

462
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Speaker 2: In Orlando, Florida, when I show up, they show up.

463
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Speaker 2: You know why they show up because they've seen me

464
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Speaker 2: get thousands of people in the room. They know when

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Speaker 2: I come to town and I ain't been there in

466
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Speaker 2: five years, and when I show up, when I brought

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Speaker 2: me in a turn into town, and y'all can disagree

468
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Speaker 2: with whole bunch stuff need to turn and say that

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Speaker 2: I don't like. But the bottom motherfucking line is when

470
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Speaker 2: I went to her, lad know the maid was there,

471
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Speaker 2: the city commission, and they got on the microphone and said,

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Speaker 2: when the political footbull come to town, I show up

473
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Speaker 2: because that's what they call me. You know why, because

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Speaker 2: they know I know how to get people in that room.

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Speaker 2: If you can't get five people at best to show

476
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Speaker 2: up nowhere, there is no power. So what I would

477
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Speaker 2: like to see with the online community is when is

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Speaker 2: the people going to show up? That's where the power is.

479
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Speaker 2: If they're not showing up, it's no power. It's talk.

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Speaker 2: It's necessary. I support it, That's why I engage with

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Speaker 2: the online activists. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: you ain't scaring nobody if you ain't showing up at

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Speaker 2: the bus stop. So I don't think there is a barometer,

484
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Speaker 2: and I don't give a damn what barometer they said, Danny,

485
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Speaker 2: because you can't out hustle me, you can't outwork me.

486
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Speaker 2: So if you're running a candidate against me, you better

487
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Speaker 2: get ready to be on the goddamn ground because we

488
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Speaker 2: knocking on every door, we turning over every stone, we going,

489
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Speaker 2: we make it short and people get to the polls.

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Speaker 2: And that's why the established have such a foothold because

491
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Speaker 2: folks that are talking are not willing to put their resources,

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Speaker 2: their time, and their money behind actually organizing on the

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Speaker 2: ground at the local level. Councilman Hawkins, you've had your

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Speaker 2: hand up for a minute, and Marcus, I want you

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Speaker 2: to go next, because I know you definitely have something

496
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Speaker 2: to say about organizing.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely one of the first all I want to say,

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Speaker 8: thank you for allowing me to come up. So I'm

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Speaker 8: a local elected official, some councilor in Brian Hawkins in

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Speaker 8: Riverside County, which is like the fourth largest county in California,

501
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Speaker 8: population of four million. My current assemblyman right now is

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Speaker 8: a newly elected assemblyman. So the seat where my city

503
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Speaker 8: is at doctor Corey Jackson. So if you look him up,

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Speaker 8: he's a reparations matter of fact, I was just with

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Speaker 8: him today because this is the conversation that we were having.

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Speaker 8: So I don't have a state seat in my district

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Speaker 8: where I'm at that I can run for, but I

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Speaker 8: am putting candidates up because I helped him get elected

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Speaker 8: in this recent election that just passed. And then the

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Speaker 8: next district over District AB forty seven, I mean Assembly

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Speaker 8: District forty seven, Jasmine Swain, she's a reparationist. So to

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Speaker 8: go back to what the question earlier was, Yeah, I've

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Speaker 8: been a registered Republican until December because hold.

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Speaker 2: On, wait a minute, Council and Hawkins, because I want

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Speaker 2: to just pause right there. So right now, is anybody

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Speaker 2: running because I know that was my question and you

517
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Speaker 2: can get onto that. I want to know, is anybody

518
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Speaker 2: running on the state level right now?

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Speaker 4: Not getting ready?

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Speaker 8: So in the next city, the next because my county

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Speaker 8: has four Assembly districts and so I'm trying to take

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Speaker 8: each seat in my in my county.

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Speaker 1: So I'm Assembly District sixty.

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Speaker 8: The next district over, which is the next three cities over,

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Speaker 8: is Assembly District forty seven.

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Speaker 1: And Jasmine Swain is going to be running in that district.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we said going to be running. Is she

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Speaker 2: on the back?

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Speaker 1: I mean we have, I mean we have, we don't

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Speaker 1: have the poor papers yet.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So this is what I'm not And I'm not

532
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Speaker 2: saying this in a you know, disrespectful way, but I

533
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Speaker 2: need my Twitter folks to understand. Do y'all see my point?

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Speaker 2: And nothing against you see the find to do ain't

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Speaker 2: good enough.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about.

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Speaker 2: No we're talking about right now, Counselman. I'm not I'm

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Speaker 2: not again, I'm not coming at you I'm just trying

539
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Speaker 2: to show the people in the Twitter space that I

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Speaker 2: keep talking to this about running in the last election,

541
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Speaker 2: gonna run in the next finna do. The question still remains,

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Speaker 2: who is running right now? Paperwork ready? And the answer

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Speaker 2: is nobody. And I'm not saying what she's not gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Please know I'm not coming at people that follow me

545
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Speaker 2: know that I talk about this all the time. The

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Speaker 2: answer still remains Marcel. So the answer is nobody right now.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's paperwork because Marcell paperwork together. I'm asking who is

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Speaker 2: running on the state California right now, California for a

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Speaker 2: state assembly position that's gonna vote in all of these

550
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Speaker 2: testimonies that people are sitting up here making these records

551
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Speaker 2: about and remix tapes and talkalking about who up there

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Speaker 2: speaking and who shouldn't be speaking and who bringing a

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Speaker 2: flat Every day I'm seeing people putting in comments on

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Speaker 2: under this task force. So my answer is who is

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Speaker 2: running right now in the state on the state level,

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Speaker 2: And the answer is nobody.

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Speaker 5: In terms of like even with that state lover in California,

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Speaker 5: that's important and folks should be turning that stuff. But

559
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Speaker 5: the state is going to go where when it comes

560
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Speaker 5: down to distributing those funds, they're going to go to

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Speaker 5: each local municipality and say, we need to come up

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Speaker 5: with a plan for how we're going to do this

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Speaker 5: in your city, in your town, in your municipality. So

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Speaker 5: we still need those folks running for a city council person,

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Speaker 5: county commissioner.

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Speaker 1: And all those positions on the local level.

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Speaker 2: Sure, and but again and again, councilor. I don't mean

568
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Speaker 2: to interrupt you, but I just couldn't let that fly over,

569
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Speaker 2: you know, since since Twitter space is at all about planes,

570
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Speaker 2: nobody and I said this at the rally last year,

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Speaker 2: where is the candidate that is running for the state

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Speaker 2: Assembly for reparations that everybody is galvanized behind all these

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Speaker 2: Twitter spaces, all of these organizations. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: call no names because then y'all be tagging them in

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Speaker 2: saying I'm talking about them, which I don't give a damn.

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Speaker 2: But all of these organizations, these reparationist organizations, where is

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Speaker 2: the candidate that people are getting behind? The answer is nowhere.

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Speaker 2: So if no candidate is there to vote it in,

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Speaker 2: what are we doing? All the books have been read,

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Speaker 2: all the scholarship y'all got the scholarship down. Remember y'all

581
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Speaker 2: told me I shouldn't have been at the rally, So

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Speaker 2: I want to know the people that said I should

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Speaker 2: have been at the rally. Where's the candidate that y'all pushing.

584
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Speaker 2: I'm hearing a lot offend the dude thinking about where's

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Speaker 2: the candidate because all of this testimony, y'all arguing over

586
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Speaker 2: should have been this name or that name, or call

587
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Speaker 2: it this or it should be freedom, it should be

588
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Speaker 2: a y O asid, it should be the foundation of

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Speaker 2: black mayor where's the candidate, y'all like real talk?

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Speaker 1: Where's the candidate?

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Speaker 4: Well, I've said to people, it can't just be one,

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Speaker 4: two or even three. It has to be a team

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Speaker 4: of us, and it has to be across all levels.

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Speaker 4: That's what I don't where's the team?

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Speaker 2: But right now, everybody talking about the California Reparations task

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Speaker 2: Force on a daily basis. Every time I open up

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Speaker 2: this app somebody talking about what somebody said on the

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Speaker 2: task force, what they shouldn't be saying on the task Force.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna run this person down on the task For

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Speaker 2: this person that where's the cat? Let's talk about California

601
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Speaker 2: let's not talk about every level in every state, where's

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Speaker 2: the California person. See when you get to that question,

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Speaker 2: that questions can never seem to be answered. Now, Marcel,

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Speaker 2: who in California is running? Remember I'm not the reparationist,

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Speaker 2: so I don't have a right according to y'all soul reparationists,

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Speaker 2: where is the California person running on the state level

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Speaker 2: that's gonna vote in all this testimony that y'all arguing

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Speaker 2: about on a daily.

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Speaker 4: Basis, are they're running somebody down on Twitter? Anythinking that's

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Speaker 4: gonna helpful? It's not.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, then, so there we go.

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Speaker 4: So there it is.

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Speaker 2: And I don't mean to interrupt your counsel, but but

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Speaker 2: I had to keep the main thing the main thing.

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Speaker 2: And I appreciate I remember having you before, and I

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Speaker 2: appreciate them you about you getting ready talk about being

617
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Speaker 2: Republican this and that, and I appreciate that. But I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to get people to keep the main thing the

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Speaker 2: main thing. And the bottom line is there's not a

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Speaker 2: candidate for California right now on the state level. That's

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Speaker 2: the bottom line. And I'm just trying to say that

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Speaker 2: as respectful as I can and nothing against you, brother,

623
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Speaker 2: and I love to have you up anytime, and you

624
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Speaker 2: know you've been up before. But I get tired of

625
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Speaker 2: these conversations getting lost. Imagine if all of these Twitter

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Speaker 2: spaces and all of the new Black media and all

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Speaker 2: of the folks that y'all follow, all of that, what

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Speaker 2: if they got behind one You don't have one person

629
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Speaker 2: that you can talk to that can vote this shit in.

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Speaker 2: Not one person. It ain't come alla more either, she's

631
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Speaker 2: the task force chair. None of them can vote this

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Speaker 2: inn that they're they're submitting recommendations, recommendations, ain't voting the

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Speaker 2: damn thing in. Who's gonna vote it in? The answer

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Speaker 2: is you have nobody? So come on, scholars, y'all not scholaring?

635
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Speaker 2: Where where's the scholars at? Where's the candidates at? I'm

636
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Speaker 2: gonna keep challenging y'all because I want y'all to know, like, what,

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Speaker 2: come on, what's happening? Where's the where's the candidate at?

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00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: If y'all not talking me? No candidate this submitting these

639
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: comments don't mean shit. They're just comments. There's no different

640
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Speaker 2: than talking about it on Twitter. You still need to

641
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Speaker 2: do it, But who's.

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Speaker 4: Gonna vote it? In you don't have nobody to vote in.

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Speaker 2: But y'all talking about what Memphis where Tennessee need to

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Speaker 2: be doing, and what's so and so need to be

645
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Speaker 2: doing over here. So so your main issue is reparations.

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Speaker 2: And right now you got reparations on the table in California,

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Speaker 2: not mandamn candidate that can that can push.

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Speaker 4: It for you.

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Speaker 2: So you gotta help me make it. I don't that

650
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Speaker 2: don't make no sense to me. Marcelle help me? You

651
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Speaker 2: ain't you you the spokesperson, So what helped me? It

652
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Speaker 2: ain't making sense? Am I missing something?

653
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Speaker 4: I know people are talking about running and like you said,

654
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Speaker 4: you're asking for who's actually doing it now? And I

655
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Speaker 4: don't know. I just know people want to talk to.

656
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Speaker 2: Talking too late because they're talking about it right now.

657
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Speaker 2: The task force is already talking about it. The recommendations

658
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Speaker 2: are going to be done in the summer, in the

659
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Speaker 2: next couple of months, so talking about it. By the

660
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Speaker 2: time they get done talking about it, the recommendation is

661
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Speaker 2: already gonna be on the elected people's position of table.

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Speaker 4: And well, you know, I've been being in this drum

663
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Speaker 4: too about how we need to run for office. Even

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Speaker 4: if we run for office and lose, And of course

665
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying I want us to love it even

666
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Speaker 4: if we were involved us and lose.

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Speaker 1: And still that's whatok.

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Speaker 4: Bernie Sanders, I mean, he's lost his run for presidency

669
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Speaker 4: even though he is an elected office holder, but his

670
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Speaker 4: the platform is now almost the platform on which Democrats

671
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Speaker 4: have to run. So I've been telling people just even

672
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Speaker 4: value and running for office if you do nothing else

673
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Speaker 4: but push your in that platform that's built.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it is people who say that don't know

675
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Speaker 2: what they're talking. Of course it is. It's called being

676
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Speaker 2: a formidable opponent. When you are a formative opponent, that

677
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: means you make people run to your issue, and then

678
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Speaker 2: you take the five hundred people that did show up

679
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Speaker 2: for you, and you continue to organize with those five hundred. Marcus,

680
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: for some reason, you fell off as a speaker. I

681
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Speaker 2: had you as a speaker center request back up. It's

682
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Speaker 2: not you. You can run and get five hundred people

683
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Speaker 2: to support you. Then I ask, well, what are you

684
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Speaker 2: gonna do with those five hundred? After you're gonna start

685
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Speaker 2: a packer? You're gonna keep organizing a lot of candidates.

686
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: They get so tired and they just say forget it.

687
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to do anything ever else again. And

688
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: then they stop, you know, they stop organizing. You have

689
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: to continue organizing with the five hundred, and you show

690
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Speaker 2: up at the means and you continue to make your

691
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Speaker 2: voice heard. So you're absolutely right, you can absolutely run

692
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Speaker 2: to lose. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just

693
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Speaker 2: think that it needs to be closer to the dollar,

694
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Speaker 2: which means a little bit closer to power, which means

695
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: on the state level and the local level, because you

696
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Speaker 2: have a better chance of having more influence and more

697
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: power because of two hundred and fifty people vote for you.

698
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: That person probably only won with fifteen hundred votes, So

699
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Speaker 2: who has more power? You got more power there than

700
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Speaker 2: you would on a congressional seat. And I don't know

701
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Speaker 2: why everybody want to go straight to Congress and straight

702
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Speaker 2: to president of the United States. How about we wear

703
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: about some of these city and local states. City right now,

704
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: state right now, All the reparation is right now, all

705
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Speaker 2: the rallies that were done last year. Where is the

706
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Speaker 2: California candidate right now? And the answer is nowhere? Because

707
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: I've asked several times and I keep getting the answer.

708
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Speaker 2: It keeps being no one, So you got the smartest

709
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Speaker 2: people in the room, and the smartest people in the room,

710
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Speaker 2: I need you to know that you need a candidate.

711
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Speaker 2: And I'm sure people are lobbying current elected officials. I

712
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Speaker 2: don't doubt that at all, because I don't know what

713
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Speaker 2: everybody's doing. I don't want to say that nobody's doing anything.

714
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Speaker 2: I hope that. I'm sure somebody is lobbying the current

715
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Speaker 2: elected officials. But what I'm talking about is who are

716
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Speaker 2: you running in California to actually be your person? Not

717
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Speaker 2: what we finna do and gonna do and getting the

718
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Speaker 2: paperwork together and she says she was gonna do it

719
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Speaker 2: and she about to do it. Who's doing it? And

720
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Speaker 2: the answer is nobody.

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Speaker 4: Well, this is what we need twenty for our marath

722
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Speaker 4: on Twitter spaces about this is what I've always said,

723
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Speaker 4: this is what people need to holder spaces about who

724
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Speaker 4: we're gonna run, how we gonna support them. Let's do

725
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Speaker 4: fundraising drives, Let's get people to knock on doors and

726
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 4: get people to make phone calls. And let me be honest.

727
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Speaker 4: You know people have supported me, and you know people

728
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Speaker 4: support me. The thing is, especially because we run for

729
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Speaker 4: federal office, you can never have too much support. But

730
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Speaker 4: these are the things because people stay in these Twitter spaces.

731
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Speaker 4: I'm a Twitter space a lot, but some stay in

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Speaker 4: Twitter spaces twenty four seven like, seriously, don't matter when

733
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Speaker 4: I go to bed or when I wake up, I

734
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Speaker 4: see some of the same people on Twitter spaces and

735
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Speaker 4: they're very active. These are the things of which we

736
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 4: need to be focusing enough talking about the problems circle

737
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 4: jerking and trauma bonding. We know how bad we're treat it,

738
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Speaker 4: like people like to tag me in tweaked about the

739
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Speaker 4: latest tragedy that doesn't happen to our people. And my

740
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 4: attitude is I'm no longer focusing on trying to put

741
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Speaker 4: out every individual fire. We need to focus on systemic

742
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 4: issues and running for off business where you get to

743
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Speaker 4: address the cymmics to the systemic issues municipal level, the

744
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 4: state level, the county level, and the federal level. And

745
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 4: like you said, really it does start on the local level.

746
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Speaker 4: That's what I'm doing now. I'm being way more visible

747
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Speaker 4: I'm doing I'm putting myself out there like I've never

748
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 4: had before. I'm talking to people in grocery stores who

749
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 4: know me, but they don't know me as a person

750
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Speaker 4: running the office. And it's really weird when they see

751
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Speaker 4: me as their classroom teacher that talked them when they

752
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 4: were young, and now they're seeing me as a person

753
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 4: asking for the vote. It's just weird and I don't

754
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 4: necessarily like it, but God knows, I've been doing it.

755
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 4: I've been going through the HBCU campuses. I've been going

756
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 4: to these festivals. Anybody who knows me knows I've always

757
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 4: been a very low key person. So this but this

758
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 4: is what I need. More people out there with me,

759
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 4: and don't get wrong tabs and like you said, people

760
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: are talking about I have a lot of people company

761
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 4: thinking about it, but we need to do it. And

762
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 4: where all the energy with the stammina people have in

763
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 4: these Twitter spaces to talk and focus on something that

764
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Speaker 4: long you can be making phone calls around the car

765
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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna be starting my phone baking soon. I

766
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Speaker 4: had to get the money up and gets I'm trying

767
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 4: to get somebody to manage it. But I'm gonna need

768
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 4: these Twitter space math star runners. They're really you that

769
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 4: are making phone calls for me. But these are the

770
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 4: things need to be talking about. Who are we gonna

771
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 4: run to get the power because at the end of

772
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Speaker 4: the day, we talk about how messed up things are,

773
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Speaker 4: and we look most any of us in here, I'm

774
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 4: sure most of us in this Twitter space.

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Speaker 1: We can beat a lot of these people.

776
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Speaker 4: In office right now with logic, but at the end

777
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 4: of the day, when the legislation comes to them, we

778
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 4: are going to be at their mercy, whether they vote

779
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 4: for it or not. That's not a position I want

780
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Speaker 4: to be in at other people's mercy. That's why I

781
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 4: just not to run. I said, I'll be damned if

782
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: I'm begging them, and like you said, don't beg them,

783
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 4: replace them. But that was my attitude, and that's the

784
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 4: reason why I ran. Actually, yeah, back in twenty twenty

785
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Speaker 4: twenty one, why signe the money? That's the only way,

786
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Speaker 4: you know.

787
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Speaker 2: And there's a question here at the bottom, saying, you know,

788
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Speaker 2: how can we you know, how do we Let's see,

789
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Speaker 2: I have two legitimate questions. How effective it is running

790
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: on a black platform if you're in the district with

791
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: less than fifteen percent black electric how can you expect

792
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 2: election fairness integrity when Democrats had cheated in the past. Again,

793
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: run run, y'all spend too much time worrying about well,

794
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: how can I do this or they gonna do this?

795
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: And how get your ass out there and run. You're

796
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 2: gonna run for office or run your mouth.

797
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: Period.

798
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Speaker 2: And like we explained earlier, it's not about fifteen percent

799
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Speaker 2: of the electric It's not about population size. It's not

800
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: about how many people don't vote. When you get you

801
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: a field manager, shout out to Dan if you want one,

802
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: one of the best is in the building, your field manager.

803
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: Is about getting your win number. It's not about how

804
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: many I hear that a lot? You know, well, black

805
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 2: people only fifteen percent. Who gives a damn you When

806
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: you run for a local seat, It's about the win number.

807
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: It's about, hey, I only need four hundred and fifty

808
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: people to get to the polls. You find four hundred

809
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 2: and fifty people to get to the polls. It's not

810
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: about the overall how many black people in the population.

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Speaker 2: That's why Eric mays again, who'll be sitting up there

812
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: talking all that shit. I don't know nobody to talk

813
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: more cash shit than Eric Maids counseling Eric Maids, who

814
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: has been elected over a decade talking cash shit to

815
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 2: white people. And guess what he does not just represent

816
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Speaker 2: black people. He's able to do it because he knows

817
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: his win number, he knows how to get his assentee ballots.

818
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: In Florida, we heavy on assent ballots. Before you even

819
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Speaker 2: show up at the post, we know who won every

820
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: candidate I've ever run. If you ain't doing AS and

821
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Speaker 2: T balance, you're running to lose. I got a heavy

822
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Speaker 2: ass ascent T ballot game before you even show up

823
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: on election data, we didn't already beat you. And this

824
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Speaker 2: is before Corona, before they was using AS and T balance.

825
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: There's a real strategy behind getting your win number. So

826
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Speaker 2: if you don't understand win number, you don't understand you

827
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Speaker 2: know how to do that, then you're always, you know,

828
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Speaker 2: going to be behind. This is why my class was

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Speaker 2: so important, because I'm trying to tell you the tricks

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Speaker 2: of the trade. And it's not a matter of fifteen

831
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Speaker 2: percent of the electric You can run on whatever genda

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Speaker 2: you want to run on, as long as your people

833
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Speaker 2: vote you in. You just have to find your people.

834
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Speaker 2: See this is why. And I love what Marcel does

835
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: because I think what he does is important because you

836
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: educated a lot of people and a lot of people

837
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Speaker 2: have respect for you. Marcel you as my candidate, you

838
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: wouldn't be talking to these people as much as you

839
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 2: do because I need I need you to be talking

840
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: to the people that can actually put you in power.

841
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 2: To me, I think what you do is very important.

842
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: But y'all wouldn't be you. Y'all wouldn't be eating up

843
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: my candid's time the way y'all do. Keep explaining over

844
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Speaker 2: and over and over. No, y'all eat up far too

845
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: much this time. And I know it makes a difference,

846
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Speaker 2: and I know it helps the fundraising. But I've ran

847
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: candidates with nothing and have won because they're able to

848
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: get the people to the post. So if you were

849
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Speaker 2: my candidate, I would have you running on a local

850
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 2: state a local seat. I would have you working your

851
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: way up to a Jim Clyburn, and I would have

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Speaker 2: even if you were a local seat and you weren't

853
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Speaker 2: in Congress, I'll be running you for state Rep. I'll

854
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 2: be running you for city council because guess what, Jim

855
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: Cliburn still got to listen to the state council. He

856
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: still got to listen to the city council all of

857
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: in order for them. You are, you would have a

858
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: part of his district that determines what he does with

859
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: his money. So there are many other ways besides you know,

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Speaker 2: I understand that stuff. Rod set the head, but there's

861
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: many other ways, you know, to have power, to have

862
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: influence within these systems that already exist. That doesn't mean

863
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: that I don't think what you're doing is not important,

864
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: because it is.

865
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 4: It really is.

866
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: But I need I need somebody to understand the local

867
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: and the state level and how that power is leveraged.

868
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: No US Congressmen when they go go around and do

869
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: their Eastern you know, go around, you know how they

870
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: come around once a year pretend like they're involved in

871
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: the in the city. They have to call their city

872
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: commissioner to decide, Hey, can I show up at first

873
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: Baptist Church on Sunday because I don't want to get embarrassed.

874
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: It's the city council and the county council and the

875
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: state reps that hold the nuts of the federal elected folks.

876
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: Trust me, it wasn't nothing we could do in some

877
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: cities without getting the blessing of that mayor or that

878
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: city council or that state rep. Perfect example in Flint,

879
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: the current mayor, Sheldon. I think Sheldon is still in

880
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: office at the time when I was organizing for Bernie

881
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: Sanders in Flint. Sheldon was a state rep at the time.

882
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: He was the only one supporting Bernie Sanders. The mayor

883
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 2: at the time was supporting Hillary Clinton. She hadn't dropped

884
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 2: foot in Flint. So I went and organized all the hood,

885
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: everybody who wasn't given a damn you know by Hillary Clinton,

886
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: all the people that she forgot. Set up Bernie Sanders

887
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: to come in and hug probably the first black person

888
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: you'd ever hugged Devi in his damn life. They got

889
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: a picture of that, took that photo took it made

890
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: campaign videos all across the state showing Bernie Sanders hugging

891
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 2: Danielle Green. Guess what, marcell Danielle Green at the time

892
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: was not an elected official. Guess what, she became an

893
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: elected official in the school board. Bernie Sanders don't even

894
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 2: know it because he ain't been back since. Guests who

895
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: still talked to Danielle Green me because once you get

896
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: those relationships, you continue to build those relationships. That's how

897
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: no ered Mays and all of that. So you people

898
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: that start on the ground and started organizing, they then

899
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: become elected officials. Guess what Sheldon was at the time,

900
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: the only representative that was supported Bernie Sanders. Guess what

901
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 2: he became the Flint mayor. The mayor that once was

902
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 2: against Bernie Sanders is now the mayor that was supported

903
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders. Guests who don't get no love for it though,

904
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders, and I'm gonna make damn sure you don't,

905
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: because Sheldon ain't heard from your sinse. That's how it

906
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: works in real time. Getting when you get people on

907
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: the local level, they bump up and they go to

908
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: other positions. They have other power. They have power that

909
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: you didn't think they had. At one point in twenty sixteen,

910
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: Dan Yelle was just the person you gave a hug too.

911
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: Now she's on the school board. If people are not

912
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: thinking that way, on the power of those positions you

913
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: build it. You don't go straight to the top. You

914
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: have to start, like anything else, at the bottom. And

915
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: it's not discouraged because there has been people that won

916
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: like the young brother or not brother, real ain't no

917
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: brother but Frost in Florida, first time ever congressional candidate.

918
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you the only reason why he ran

919
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: is because six six black people split the vote in Florida.

920
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: Three of them were my friends. He won't win the

921
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: second damn time. He better watch his back. So yes,

922
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: first time Cannadys can win. But the power it starts

923
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 2: at the at the local level, and if people are

924
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: not doing that, then you're missing opportunities to have more

925
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: leverage with Ajim Clydburn where he actually does have to listen,

926
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 2: and he can do that by by a local seat,

927
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: that's my opinion. But Marcel can continue to run for

928
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 2: Congress because somebody got to do it. But the question

929
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: comes down too, who's gonna do the local though. That's

930
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: the part that I keep saying over and over. I

931
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: guess that Annie got off. Now I don't know who's

932
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,479
Speaker 2: a troll and who's not a troll, So Marcel's gonna

933
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: have to vouch for you, you know, no disrespect, but

934
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't spend enough time in these

935
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: Twitter spaces, Uh is it? Aliyah Arian.

936
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: Ahliah?

937
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: Let me just make you a co host because I

938
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: don't know who's a troll patrol so and I'm not

939
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: I don't in no respect to your Leah, because I

940
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: just don't know. I don't I don't know like what

941
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 2: troll and troll and not trolled. So I just added

942
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: Marcel's a co host. We can continue the conversation. H

943
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: are you Marcella. I want somebody to come up and

944
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: try to tell you something so you can tell the

945
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: men they are damn things.

946
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 4: I don't see any of leyah, but if you're talking

947
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 4: about I want you to me is it a. I

948
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 4: don't see any of me, but if I see her,

949
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 4: I'll be able to tell you.

950
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: Okay, she just left. Once I said it was that

951
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 2: you was in charge of the co host. She left,

952
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: so maybe she.

953
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: Was covered from Marcela.

954
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: Is well, I made you the co host, so you

955
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: can see who's who requested you want to continue the

956
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: conversation or you know, it's up to you. What's tonight?

957
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: Is it Friday or Saturday? Friday? Yeah, I'm gonna go

958
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: to I'm gonna go to Happy Out a minute, but no,

959
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: this was a great conversation guys, and again Danny and

960
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm so glad again shout out to everybody. Put the

961
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: thumbs up you appreciate. I know y'all like chaos, but

962
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed hearing the conversation.

963
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 4: I feel good.

964
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: She's good.

965
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 4: I mean a few times I've heard us spoke, she's

966
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: been good. And I see a few people I'm inviting

967
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 4: them up right now and right I like people love

968
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 4: dramatic triduce speech that when I'm in a space, people

969
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 4: are like, oh my sell, I about to go off

970
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 4: with somebody. And I tell people when I go to

971
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 4: these events, and sometimes I have to be intentionally disruptive.

972
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 4: I don't come there to disrupt, but when they're trying

973
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 4: to ignore me, it's not about me. It's about who

974
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: I'm representing. And like you said, I people will talk

975
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: about the two thousand five hundred people that voted for me.

976
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 4: Those are still two thousand five hundred people who need

977
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 4: to have their voices heard. So if nothing else here

978
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 4: is my district, I'm going to represent those two thousand

979
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 4: five hundred people. But I'm also representing the many people

980
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: I've met on the street who said that if they

981
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 4: had known about me, they would have voted for me.

982
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 4: So but if even if it was only two people,

983
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 4: even if there was no person that voted for me,

984
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 4: I'm still gonna speak up for my people, period. So

985
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 4: some people, when I get into spaces, they think, oh

986
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 4: what a myself won't say at a lot of times,

987
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 4: I am not like that. A lot of times. I

988
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 4: would much rather have a nice, level headed into really conversation.

989
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 4: That's really how I prefer to move on.

990
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 5: To Marcelle Boy, marcell I'm gonna say this point like

991
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 5: we've only had one exchange in DMS as far as

992
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 5: talking behind the scenes on you know what's happening in

993
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 5: the spaces, And I sent you one message and you

994
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 5: can confirm this and screenshot it and post so folks

995
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 5: know I'm not lying. I told you controversy is the

996
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 5: mother of all progress. Folks like to run away from it,

997
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 5: but when things become controversial, that's when shit starts to move.

998
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 5: That's when you know, policy starts to get passed.

999
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: So I mean, I.

1000
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 5: Don't want I don't know if I don't know how

1001
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 5: you took what I said earlier, but I want to

1002
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 5: make sure i'm busterous like what I'm saying with I

1003
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 5: support you.

1004
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: I want you to keep doing what the hell you doing.

1005
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 5: I appreciate you pushing the envelope all that type of stuff,

1006
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 5: and just know that controversy is the mother of all progress.

1007
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 4: My brother, Well, then I should be in my way

1008
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:49,479
Speaker 4: to president then, because according to everyone therab, every time

1009
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 4: I go through what these and this, Marcell like peill

1010
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 4: be knowing my name. I've ever seen these field before.

1011
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 4: I was in Savannah during an interview and some people

1012
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 4: stop traffic, Oh, Marcell, what you doing over here? I

1013
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 4: think I live here. I don't live in the Vanna,

1014
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 4: but I live in Ridgeland in South Carolina. But Sagana

1015
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 4: is like, I mean, go to now. So that's the case.

1016
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 4: I steeled my way to the White House.

1017
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 5: As an operatives bro, I'm gonna tell you, like you know,

1018
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 5: we look at all angles. We look at the field,

1019
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 5: we look at the political we also look at the optics.

1020
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 5: The optics that's working in your favor. Never take off

1021
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 5: that damn had that had. The folks should think that

1022
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 5: that ship is sold to your head, bro. And I'm

1023
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 5: gonna land I played right there.

1024
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know know about. All I know is

1025
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: and but guys, which I'll call it reset in the room,

1026
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: this space was about, you know, I wanted to remind folks,

1027
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: you know there was a exchange between Marcel and Tammy Sawyer.

1028
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: And you know, Danny and Tammy are both from Tennessee,

1029
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: and you know, Marcel was, you know, doing what Marcel does,

1030
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: which is you know, certainly challenged you know, any and

1031
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 2: everybody as he has the right to on their policy.

1032
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: And I wanted to host this room to remind people

1033
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: that even if you're not a fan of these two

1034
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 2: particular politicians, I'm not asking you to advocate for them.

1035
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: I'm not asking you to advocate for the Democrat Party.

1036
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: I'm not asking you to say that a black agenda

1037
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: should not be first. What I am reminding you is

1038
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: that the same thing that they did, which is yelling

1039
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: on a bullhorn, is the same thing that Marcel does

1040
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: that you guys support. And so all I'm saying is

1041
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: it is dangerous that anytime somebody yells on a bullhorn

1042
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: that they get expelled for not you know, because they're

1043
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: using their right to protest.

1044
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: I do.

1045
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: I think that it's a dangerous precedence. So I just

1046
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: wanted to give people, you know, the main thing, the

1047
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: main thing, and you certainly can challenge people if you

1048
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: feel you know, they should do better. It's not going

1049
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: to matter because you don't both demand so they don't

1050
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: have to listen to you. But you certainly can continue

1051
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: to challenge. But I just wanted people to know it

1052
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: is very dangerous. You know that that people can't that

1053
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: the voters had their representative removed very dangerous because that

1054
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: that has historically happened to us. So even if you

1055
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: don't see those two representatives as one of us, even

1056
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: though Danny and Tammy have said that they are, and

1057
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: again they have the right to their opinion. Somebody can

1058
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 2: say with Danny, I disagree with you. I don't think

1059
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: he rocking with black people. That's fine. Everybody got their

1060
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: own opinion. All I'm saying is I support people being

1061
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 2: able to make their voice heard, even if it's even

1062
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: if it's a policy I disagree with. So what's happening

1063
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: in Tennessee is not about policy. It's not about if

1064
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: you support gun bodies are not gun by. I'm two way.

1065
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: I'm a military person, so I stay strapped up, So

1066
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: it's not it's not about that.

1067
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 4: For me.

1068
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: It's about voters had their voice taken away, and that's dangerous.

1069
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: That's that's the main thing for me. You invited some

1070
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: people of ourselves, so I'm just RelA Hey, Marcel, hello, Tuesling.

1071
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: I think this was my first time on your stage.

1072
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 2: So this is my backup page.

1073
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 9: I'm normally on my main page and I kind of

1074
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 9: let it go dormant since all of the action that

1075
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 9: happened with myself and I just needed a break.

1076
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 3: I was one of his on his team. His team.

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00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 9: There was a bunch of us who actually supported his

1078
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 9: campaign and still support his campaign, you know, as it's moving.

1079
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: I want to say that everything you said was so true.

1080
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 9: From my first time actually going into the field and

1081
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 9: even on online, I realized there are two things that happen.

1082
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 9: There are people who have such a passion and a

1083
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 9: trauma that we want repair that we utilize our voices online,

1084
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 9: whether it's a I love your statement, the forty hour

1085
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 9: spaces and four our period. But at the same time

1086
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 9: that forty hours need to be cut in half and

1087
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 9: some of that time does need to be done on

1088
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 9: the groundwork, because what we found was that for the

1089
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 9: most of us, in shout out to the entire team

1090
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 9: network behind Marcel and still does support Marcel, there was

1091
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 9: not a lot of community engagement, and that was what

1092
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 9: we were struggling with, trying to get all hands connected

1093
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 9: to the community. And I think that's something that's happening everywhere,

1094
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 9: not just in South Carolina. I'm here in the state

1095
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 9: of Virginia. I made a decision to run for my

1096
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 9: particular state, but then found that there's so many different

1097
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 9: avenues into workings here that you have to develop additional networks.

1098
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 9: And also, I believe in the black majority state, so

1099
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 9: shout out to definitely black majority state rule, because we

1100
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 9: do need people in positions where we can we have authority,

1101
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 9: and if we can get that practice done as we

1102
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 9: figure out the numbers even to move or to capture authority,

1103
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 9: we need to do all the things. And I think

1104
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 9: Danny is right. There has to be a blending of

1105
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 9: efforts on online, but on the ground, in all avenues,

1106
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 9: and you cannot negate one for the other. Because we're

1107
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 9: looking for local and state candidates because we need someone

1108
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 9: like Marcel running for the federal level.

1109
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: But when we lead someone that we need multiple people.

1110
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 9: I remember we were actually also supporting and shout out

1111
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 9: to black political swingers. When I started out with Samantha,

1112
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 9: we were hosting several candidates that we just just I

1113
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 9: don't know how I fell in our laps, but we

1114
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 9: had the opportunity to support several candidates and introduce them

1115
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 9: to the space races in online, and Marcelle was won

1116
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 9: and it was like we were attacked from from all

1117
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 9: over because people are like who these niggas and who

1118
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 9: these people? Right, but they were people from communities that

1119
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 9: they wanted to support, and they were saying, I'm putting

1120
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 9: my life on the line, my family's life, and we

1121
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 9: are presenting ourselves attack from where online? Okay, they were attacked.

1122
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 9: They were attacked online.

1123
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: So this is what I want to remind you, candidates.

1124
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 2: And again, if Marcelle was my candidate, he wouldn't be online,

1125
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: not even half of the time. Races are not one online,

1126
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 2: They're not no race that I and I've worked racis

1127
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 2: on the state, the local, and on the federal level.

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00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: And I just want to remind you fundraising is done online.

1129
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: For sure, you can raise some money and maybe you

1130
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: can galvanize and maybe you guys can host some phone

1131
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: banks for some of these people, like we need Twitter space.

1132
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 2: They can make calls for you from anywhere, by the way,

1133
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: and they can take voters for you from anywhere, by

1134
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 2: the way. But this online ship, that's not how it

1135
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 2: works on the local level. This even having conversations online,

1136
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 2: it means nothing. It meaning no disrespect to the Gabe

1137
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: candidate that y'all.

1138
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: Ran, but he that was my candidate. But I did

1139
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 3: support I did.

1140
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 2: Supporting online. See this is what I want y'all know. See,

1141
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: supporting online is just like, oh baby, I'm sending you

1142
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: prayers and thoughts and prayers. The only way you can

1143
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: support the candidates by voting for that candidate in the booth.

1144
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: And if you can't vote that candidate in the booth,

1145
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: Gabe had more people in the Twitter space than he

1146
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: had show up at the polls. He raised more money

1147
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: than all of them and had less people show up

1148
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: at the polls. It's an example to show if that

1149
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: was my candidate, no disrespect for y'all supporting them. But

1150
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: it ain't no way in hell I would have had

1151
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: him in here explaining a damn thing to y'all. Not

1152
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: damning because now one of y'all, not now one of

1153
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: y'all could vote for him and people get these Twitter spaces. Chicago.

1154
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,479
Speaker 2: I live like like like the like the Queen Glorella said,

1155
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: Internet troll satisfied Internet goals.

1156
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 4: Y'all said, whatever.

1157
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: Y'all want to say. If I say you don't know,

1158
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: you ain't no doctor. Shit, I am a doctor. You

1159
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about. If I say you

1160
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 2: don't know, you ain't got the money, shit, you don't know.

1161
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: I got five minutes. People make up whatever they want to.

1162
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: Y'all got people sitting up for telling you I live

1163
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: in this district. You don't know that. You don't know

1164
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 2: if they live in the.

1165
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 4: District or not.

1166
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: They literally making ship up. Y'all had that candidate and again,

1167
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: I don't even want to me talking about this when

1168
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go and talk about this. Well, sitting up

1169
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: here for hours and hours and hours getting vetted and

1170
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: getting ran down and having conversation with people that can't

1171
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: even But what it did was for the candidate, for

1172
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: the people that did not support Gabe. They gave him

1173
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,959
Speaker 2: a damn good distraction. And because he was distracted, shout

1174
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: out to the people that helped distract him. He lost

1175
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: his race because he spent too much time talking to

1176
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: people on Twitter. And so the only thing you can

1177
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: do online is lose a race. You cannot win. Let

1178
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 2: me say it again, you cannot win a race online,

1179
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 2: but you can down show lose one. And how you

1180
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: lose one is you get distracted. You say crazy as

1181
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 2: shit that people can take and make whole commercials off of.

1182
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 2: I can show you plenty that I've done. You can

1183
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: do all types of shit that people can come against

1184
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: you by being online. But you will never win a

1185
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: race online. The only way you will win a race

1186
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: is by knocking at doors.

1187
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 4: Period. That's it.

1188
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: That's all. You can raise money online. You can lose

1189
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 2: a race online. You will never win a race online.

1190
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: So when you say a tax a tax from online,

1191
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: those aren't attacks. Those are distractions. When you knock on

1192
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: somebody's door and then they say, hey, you know what,

1193
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: I don't like your get out, that's a real attack.

1194
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: That's how you count it. You count the ones at

1195
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: the door. The rest of them a bunch of bullshit.

1196
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm just giving it to you.

1197
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 9: Honestly, ahead, I don't want to know, and I'm just

1198
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 9: gonna land here and I'm gonna say I and I

1199
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 9: understand what you're saying, but I'm just going to I'm

1200
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 9: just giving you in brief synopsis over things that happen

1201
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 9: over time. But that was early in the That was

1202
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 9: early and when we actually first and so after all

1203
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 9: that happened. You know, people leveled out, and I'm just

1204
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 9: I'm stating the fact that it's not that it wasn't

1205
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 9: warranted because people were going to do what people do.

1206
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 9: It was just the mere fact that we were able

1207
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 9: to get people out online and Marcelle was already running,

1208
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 9: and I think we just made the decision that we

1209
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 9: wanted to support people who wanted to run for office,

1210
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 9: and he was one of the candidates. We had Brandon Dean,

1211
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 9: we also supported to mayor Shilie Johnson, and then we

1212
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 9: were also doing stuff behind the scenes.

1213
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: So we're not We're not just.

1214
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, let me ask you this.

1215
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 2: And again I'm not using this to challenge. I'm just

1216
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: trying to you know, I don't take it that at all.

1217
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: So when we say support, how many were sent on

1218
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: the ground to knock on doors for those candidates that

1219
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: you mentioned?

1220
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 4: And that's why I was going to say Rella actually

1221
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 4: came down in the South Carolina, But she was one

1222
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 4: a few.

1223
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 2: So let's so let's so let's recept this right quick.

1224
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: He was one a few. So what I'm saying is

1225
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: if people want to support, it has to be on

1226
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: the ground. And if people can't come down things you

1227
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: said then. But what I'm trying to say is, I

1228
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: don't know if somebody ask me, yeah, what I'm what

1229
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say, and I'm not trying to diminish that,

1230
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: but I do want people to understand because what I

1231
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: see in these Twitter spaces, a lot of people think

1232
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 2: and they have a lot of powerful things that they

1233
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: don't and some people that can't run their household get

1234
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: in this Twitter space and all of a sudden think

1235
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: they got some type of power. And so I just

1236
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 2: want to reset. For the candidates that actually want to run,

1237
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: I want you to know that a lot of these

1238
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: people in these Twitter space have power that they do

1239
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 2: not have. And you spend so much time trying to

1240
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: educate and convince people because they can't run their man,

1241
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: and they can't run their kids, and they can't run

1242
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: they women, and don't nobody on their job listen to

1243
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: they ask. So they get on these Twitter spaces and

1244
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 2: be talking about what they better do and what somebody

1245
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 2: better do, and I'm going to hit the new button

1246
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: and all of it, and they come up with some

1247
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: mystery power that they don't have. And it's although I

1248
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: appreciate the arts, mens, and I appreciate the debates. What

1249
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say is, if you are a candid,

1250
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: because I'm speaking to the candidate, your power lies in

1251
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: your voters. And people on twitters are not your voters,

1252
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: So your power is in the voter. So if you

1253
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: are spending more time talking to somebody else's man or

1254
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: how they should be sleeping with they man, and not

1255
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 2: your own man in your own house, I'm saying that

1256
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: your time is disproportionate into what's going to actually get

1257
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 2: you elected. That's just a fact. And so fundraising online

1258
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: and you know, hey, we support you, support you, support you.

1259
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: You can say you support me all day long. But

1260
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 2: if that's not turning into your favorite words tangible like

1261
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 2: phone banking or donating or showing up. I know everybody

1262
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: can't relokay and go down North Carolina, South Carolina.

1263
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 4: I get that.

1264
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: But you can get on a phone bank and you

1265
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: can call voters. You can raise the money to get

1266
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: a voter's list and call and say hey, can you

1267
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: me Marcel and come volunteer on Saturday because he's going

1268
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 2: to be knocking doors. I've done that with Canada's plenty

1269
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: of times, so the same time it's spent on it.

1270
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to show you what support looks like.

1271
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: And sometimes people think retweeting is a support or c like,

1272
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: is it support? Are you telling Marcel that's not supporting

1273
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: a candidate. There's three ways to support a candidate, phone

1274
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 2: or money.

1275
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 5: Hey, Tis, I just want to I just want to

1276
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 5: make two points, real quick, real quick, on the point

1277
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 5: about actually getting on the ground and helping folks organize. Like,

1278
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 5: and I guess I'm gonna direct this to Marcel. I

1279
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 5: don't know what you're doing. You know, in your shop.

1280
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not in your business all that type stuff.

1281
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 5: But if I ask you how many voter IDs do

1282
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 5: you have right now, would you be able to tell

1283
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 5: me yes, okay, and and and that's exactly what you do.

1284
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 5: And that's exactly what you need to be doing, bro,

1285
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 5: like getting voter IDs, getting as you knock on doors,

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Speaker 5: you're getting people that actually say I'm going to support you.

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Speaker 1: But that's not the end all, be all.

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Speaker 5: The next part of that is actually turn those people out,

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Speaker 5: which is actually the part that takes.

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Speaker 4: The hard part.

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Speaker 1: That's the hard part.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna get to the other hands rout. So I

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Speaker 4: don't want to be label at this point by me

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Speaker 4: saying one. I love of my reparationist family, and I

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Speaker 4: met a lot of you'll online, met Tesla and all

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Speaker 4: of them online. If it wasn't for Twitter, I would

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Speaker 4: not a lot of you who I've actually met in

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Speaker 4: real life.

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Speaker 5: Well A, Marshall, I just had one more point I

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Speaker 5: wanted to make before you get into it, and I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna let you have it.

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Speaker 1: And then then my second point I want to make

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Speaker 1: it is Twitter.

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Speaker 4: Is a tool.

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Speaker 5: YouTube is a tool. Yeah, so Twitter is a tool.

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Speaker 5: Facebook is a tool. All these social TikTok is a

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Speaker 5: tool that we use to amplify what's already happening on

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Speaker 5: the ground. What I'm seeing now, especially within the Black

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Speaker 5: Reparation space, within the Black Agenda space, is that we're

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Speaker 5: putting all our effort and stock into the social media

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Speaker 5: aspects of like organizing. Like as Testanta said, digital organizing

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Speaker 5: is important. But if you don't have your base, if

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Speaker 5: you don't have your foundation, your screaming into the ozarc.

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Speaker 5: I mean you usually just screaming into the ether. You're

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Speaker 5: just you know, throwing money into the ether. So I

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Speaker 5: need everybody that's in this space right now to know

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Speaker 5: that Twitter is not the beginning of your organizing stuff.

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Speaker 5: Twitter should not be the beginning of how you organize.

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Speaker 5: Your organizing should be based and founded in the ground,

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Speaker 5: the people, the streets, door to door, real people. And

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Speaker 5: then the third point I want to make is these

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Speaker 5: people are old. The folks you deal with on Twitter,

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Speaker 5: they're between the ages. I mean, they're all over the spectrum,

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Speaker 5: but they're mainly between the ages of about twenty five

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Speaker 5: and maybe forty five as far as the folks that

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Speaker 5: you're dealing with. But once you step into like the

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Speaker 5: precinct captains, when you go into the precinct captains of

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Speaker 5: your neighborhood, that lady sixty seven, that lady seventy five,

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Speaker 5: she's been doing it for the last twenty to thirty years.

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Speaker 5: And if you can't build a relationship with her or him,

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Speaker 5: you're not going to be successful. So Twitter is a tool.

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Speaker 5: It is not the beginning of your organizing, you know, journey, career,

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Speaker 5: all that good stuff. It is to amplify what you're

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Speaker 5: doing on the ground. You go and meet and talk

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Speaker 5: to voters, You hear stories from voters, You tweet that

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Speaker 5: out folks seeing them like Damn Marcel doing some real

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Speaker 5: shit on the ground is based in real people. When

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Speaker 5: you come to Twitter, when you come to YouTube and

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Speaker 5: these social media spaces, and that's where all of your

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Speaker 5: organizer and it's just like confound it just screaming into

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Speaker 5: the void. So I'm done. I'm done.

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