WEBVTT - George Conway & Ian Bremmer 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.160 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.640 today's best minds, and a court following has revealed the 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:15.240 Justice Department has released less than one percent of the 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:18.320 Epstein files. We have such a great show for you today. 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:22.800 George Conway stops by to talk about his run for Congress. 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:26.759 Then we'll talk to the Eurasia Groups Ian Brema about 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:30.600 the destabilization Trump has brought to the world stage. But 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:31.480 first the news. 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:35.519 All right, Mai. We have a new congressional landscape because 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.080 a lot of weird things happen since we last taped. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.920 We have Marjorie Taylor Green gone or see won't be 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:45.360 filled till at least March. We have Congressman Doug LaMalfa 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:49.440 who passed away, and Indiana Rep. Jim Baird and his 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:51.800 wife were injured in a car accident that may prevent 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:52.520 him from voting. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:54.880 By the way, in a month, a Democrat will take 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:59.800 the Mikey Cheryl seat. So Johnson's majority to eighteen to 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:01.400 two thirteen. 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.720 Leaves a lot of room for a Thomas Massey to 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:10.200 swing around his anti Trump feelings? Are they feelings? 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:14.000 Look Mike Johnson got this job, he got this seat, 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.119 He got to be Speaker of the House because Donald 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.800 Trump wanted a yes man. He wanted someone who would 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:25.080 do whatever he wanted. And while that is good for Trump, 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.839 or at least it was, he didn't put in there 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.119 someone who knew how to do it, like Tom Emmer 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:37.360 or even Kevin McCarthy, who is no rocket scientist. Even 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.400 Kevin McCarthy would have been a much better pick for 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.679 this job. But you have Mike Johnson, who is not 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:45.720 good at this job, and whenever he has trouble, he 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:50.200 sends everyone home. So what's happened? At least I think 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.960 Republicans in Congress are a little bit different than Democrats. 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.720 Republicans in Congress are pretty demoralized, and that's why they 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:58.720 keep leaving Congress. And part of the way to have 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.360 a majority is to have a lot of people there. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.960 When people start leaving, you start losing people and your 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.720 majority shrinks. So Mike Johnson right now has a majority 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:12.960 that is two eighteen to two thirteen, and that is 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.920 when you have people like Thomas Massey, and they're not 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.840 a governorable majority. And that is why there are two 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.120 different bills that have passed that are bills that Trump 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.360 doesn't want. And you're going to see more of that 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.960 because you've got discharge petitions and you've got a House 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:33.040 that the Republicans control but really in name only, and 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.839 so who knows what's happening behind the scenes, but we 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:39.000 hope that Hikeem is out there trying to flip some 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:40.040 members of Congress. 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.720 Yeah, this is a perilous time for Mike Johnson's rule. 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.000 Yeah. Who could have seen it coming? Everyone? 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.600 Yep, you know, these things can flip fast. As we 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.000 saw last year the Democrats lost a couple different members 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.120 due to death. So who knows where this plays out. 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:59.960 It's good to not have really really old members of conqueror. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:04.120 Yep, you'll be shocked to hear that this situation in Venezuela, 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.200 it's beginning to look a lot like Iraq. Trump says 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:11.680 the US government may reimburse soil companies for rebuilding Venezuela's infrastructure. 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:16.959 Yeah, that is not what anyone wants. There's a guest 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:21.440 on this episode, Ian who talks about how he thinks 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.040 this could go and I think, and this is a 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.920 really good point. Wired has a really good article about 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:30.120 this too, which is history shows us that the US 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.040 is really good at coups, but they tend to be 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.520 not so good at all the stuff that happens after coups. 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.680 And I think that's a really really really good point, 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:44.480 Like it's easy to take a leader down. It is 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:48.920 much harder, as we saw most recently in Afghanistan, but 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:53.960 we've seen in other places to install a leader to 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.640 follow up with that. And that's where we are right now, 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:00.400 is there's not a plan and they're you know, Trump 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:04.520 ran on end foreign wars, and so here we find 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:08.880 ourselves in a completely you know, a situation where Trump 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.400 is you know, it's the you break it, you bought 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:16.200 it school of diplomacy. It's a pottery barn meet to 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.760 the Middle East, and that's where we are. Fun stuff 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:20.960 could be a problem. 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.960 So some of the more shocking news in a week 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.520 of shocking news was that Tim Walls decided not to 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:32.839 run for another election as governor of Minnesota after some 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:38.560 very very i would say, not good politics, very unfair 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:42.800 play propaganda disguised as news, particularly this young lad. The 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.720 right wing is latched onto Nick Shirley, who did a 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.080 lot of bullshit journalism. He went to places pretended they 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.120 weren't open, blocked out signs that showed they weren't open. 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.279 And what we're seeing as estimates that more people watched 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.960 this than all three news networks combined. 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:02.640 Brought times like one hundred, right, I. 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.200 Wouldn't say times one hundred, but times a lot. It 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.880 was one of the most seismic. I even just tallied 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.440 up numbers on YouTube and I got to twenty five million. 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:15.960 So basically, what is happening here is that more than 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.640 two years ago there was a case of corruption, fraud, 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:26.320 thievery of public funds in Minnesota the Biden DOJ, which 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.000 I have a lot of qualms about and a lot 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.400 of complaints about, but they did in fact prosecute I 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.719 don't know ten twelve thirty people. I think a lot 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.720 of people. People went to jail, et cetera, et cetera. 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.000 Fast forward Nick Shurly. There was a lot of reporting 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.039 about it at the time. There was ten pieces in 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.920 the New York Times. Fast forward Nick Shirley and his 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:53.160 merry band of propagandas I was going to say, moronic billionaires, 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:57.760 and that crew found that they decided that none of 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.679 this had ever been covered and that they were breaking news. 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.200 The point is there's been punishment, people have gone to jail, 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.880 there has been investigations, there has been criminal charges, but 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:12.440 it does not matter because these people are discovering for 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:16.400 the first time. So basically the problem is this, when 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:19.680 you are running for governor for a third term, that 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:24.120 third term situation is complicated. We saw this with Bloomberg 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.680 in New York when he ran for mayor. I mean 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.520 it was different with Bloomberg because he had to change 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.599 the rules to run for a third term. But governor's 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:37.080 races are weird and the third one changes the context 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.760 a little bit. And now with Klobashar in there, she 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.440 really has a better shot. I think she's a real 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:47.719 national candidate. And I think that probably what happened here 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.839 is that Wall saw these polls and saw that he 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.680 probably was not going to win, and so here we are. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.800 I think it's disappointing. I mean, I have always been 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:58.599 a fan of his, but I also think, like, what's 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.680 so interesting about Minnesota is they have such a good 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.920 bench of Democratic candidates and like we will have on 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.120 this podcast soon, Peggy Flan again, she's running for Senate. 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.440 I think she's probably the first Lieutenant governor of Minnesota 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.960 who is a Native woman. That's very cool. So there 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:17.280 are a lot of talented people and the Minnesota Democratic Party. 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:21.320 I'll be interested to see now because this will mean 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:25.480 if it works right, it means that Clomentum becomes governor. 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:29.040 If she wins, she will then put someone in that 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.760 Senate seat, and you'll have Peggy Flann again running for 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.560 the other Senate seatret because Tina Smith is not going 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:39.880 to run again, So you will have two new senators 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:44.360 from Minnesota. Very interesting. I'll be curious to see who 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:45.720 Clomentum picks. 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:47.560 Yeah, and I think just think we should say the 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:51.040 other really disgusting part of the story is that Nick 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:55.320 Shirley and his propagandist friends spread that Governor Walls helped 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:59.160 get his dear friend Melissa Wortman killed, and then President 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:00.880 Donald Trump's that as well. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.200 Yeah, it's a lot of horrible stuff, but the bright 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.080 spot is that there's a lot of talent in Minnesota. 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.960 So another thing that horrified many people as we walked 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.520 into this new year is that the Trump administration is 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.960 making deep cuts in the child vaccine schedule. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.280 Yes, not only are they making deep cuts, they're making 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.760 really deep cuts. So, I mean, this is just absolute 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.960 bad shitty and in fact, this is probably one of 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:32.480 the dumbest. So now they're cutting rotavirus, COVID nineteen, influenza, meningitis, 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:39.200 hepatitis A and B. It is absolutely insane, insane, insane, insane. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:43.760 Children will die, It is absolutely pointless. Kids are going 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:49.079 to die, Adults are going to die. It's absolutely fucking unconsionable. 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.040 We have exciting news over at our YouTube channel. The 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:01.240 second episode from our Project twenty twenty nine series is 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.960 out now. It's a reimagining where we examine what went 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.920 wrong with democrats approach to politics and how we can 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:11.240 correct it and deliver changes to help people's lives. 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You're you're a fill in, 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:30.960 So tell me what you're up to. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.440 Well, I had I went to get some coffee this morning. 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:35.880 That was it. 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.120 It was great, and I had at me. 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:44.640 Yes, I want you to talk about why you think 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:49.200 why you would be the person to impeach President Trump. 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:56.600 Well, I'm highly motivated, as you know. I mean we 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:00.679 are at a crossroads. I mean we really are threatened here. 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.680 We're threatened by a potential loss of democracy, a loss 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.320 of a rule of law. When we see it every day, 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:13.000 constitutional government and it's got to stop. And we need 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:14.720 people who are going to meet in Congress who are 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.920 not going to hold back we were basically just call 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:20.440 it out as they see it. And we need lawyers 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.360 in particular because the two things that we need to 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.839 do with this guy, first of all, is to hold 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:33.520 him accountable all his people accountable, which involves investigating and impeaching. 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:35.840 And the other thing is we have to do things 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:37.720 to make sure. We have to pass laws to make 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.640 sure it never ever happens again. I mean, there's so 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.880 many laws that you can think of, just off the top, 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:47.920 you know, protecting the Justice Department from political interference. The 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:51.280 twenty fifth Amendment is one of my favorites. You know, 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.680 there was a bill that Nancy Pelosi introduced in twenty twenty. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.840 I think Jamie Raskin had previously introduced it. That you know, 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:02.000 under the twenty fifth Amendment, Section four, Congress can designate 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:06.400 a body other than the Lex Bittle Alyxplittle Cabinet to 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:10.640 figure out whether the president is mentally competent or physically competent. 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.000 I mean, that's got to be done because we can't 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.680 have what we have now again all sorts of things. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.360 The War Powers Act obviously we just learned this week. 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.480 Really we need to figure out a way his strength 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.880 make it more festive. Yeah, there's just so many, many things. 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.840 And the thing that all of this is, yeah, it's Trump, Trump, Trump. 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.600 And some people are going to say, well, what about 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:37.080 everything else? And I don't get these democrats. I mean, 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.360 I love so many Democrats get this. But there are 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:45.280 a few who and they mean well, but they say, well, 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:46.640 we want to talk about Trump. We want to talk 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.160 about Trump too much. We got to talk about the 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.040 kitchen table issues as if they were separate, and they're 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:55.680 not separate. They're completely intertwined. Because we have a president 0:12:56.360 --> 0:13:00.680 we don't give a shit about anybody other than himself. 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.080 He's running the government like a mob operation. He's running 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.120 for his own benefit. He's running the government. We have 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.360 government of the Boss, by the boss, and for the 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.800 Boss and all of his friends. And that's the reason why, 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.640 you know, he's focused on on shit like the arm 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.760 invested at the Kennedy Center. Renaming the Kennedy Center is 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:24.960 nice jed from Qatar. His uh, I mean, his his 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:29.000 ballroom real. He'll throw his unconstitutional legal third in all 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:33.200 year old and you know he doesn't care about anything 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.520 that's happening to real people. He doesn't care about using 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.520 the government to help people. He doesn't care. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:41.560 About Yes, okay, so I want you to explain to 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:45.079 us why you're the person So like Jamie Raskin is 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:49.200 a great example, because he is a lawyer. He has 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.280 proven to be a really good member of the House, 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:56.640 right and one of the reasons wingman right, and you come. 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.320 I want you to talk about your experience at Walktau 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:04.120 and why that is relevant to what you want to do. 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.040 If he can elect all the. 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.439 Things that you need to know how to do, you 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.800 can learn how to do as a lawyer litigation. You 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.120 learned how to cross examine witnesses, and I'm a great 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.800 cross examiner. I mean, this is gonna be great for hearings. 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.360 I know how to investigate. I know how to litigate. 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.840 I know how to push all these buttons. And then 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:27.680 of course the drafting and the knowledge of constitutional all 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.800 that thing, all of that, this is all lawyery. We 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.760 need good lawyers in Congress right now more than ever. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.480 And you know, I mean, Jamie, Jamie Raskin needs all 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.120 the help you can get on that committee. And I'm 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.720 you know, I want to be there and I want 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:46.000 to help, and I think I'm the best person suited 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:46.440 for that. 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:52.240 Part of Trump is this psychological game, right like, And 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:58.520 we saw this really clearly with Zoran. If he's easily played, 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:03.280 he is easily So talk us through how that relates 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.040 to your congressional Well. I think the thing is, he's 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.840 easily to distract and to engage. I think one of 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.400 the things I do well with him is to point 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:17.760 out his psychological disorders and and make him manifest them. 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:18.240 Right. 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.880 And this is the thing about this is this is 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.480 central to who he is, and central to why he 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.880 can't govern it, and central to why he is a 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:29.600 danger to the world. He's a narcissist. He's a malignant narcissist. 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.520 I've been talking about that, I write, I wrote an 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.240 eleven thousand word piece in seven years ago about that 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.400 in the Atlantic. You know again, he cares only about himself. 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.520 He only cares about his ego. All everything he's doing 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.960 is to gratify his ego, to make him feel strong, 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.000 to make him, you know, to seek retribution against others. 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:52.120 He can be easily distracted into showing how bad he is. 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:53.880 And I think we need to draw him out on it. 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.400 And I think that's what you know, could have happened 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.840 more in the twenty four campaign. I think we're going 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:00.640 it's going to happen here is well. 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:05.360 Don Trump has kidnapped a president of Venezuela and his wife. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:10.120 He has brought them to New York to face drug 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.440 trafficking charges. Because Donald Trump is very worried about drugs, 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:18.240 except sometimes when he's partnering people who what the fuck 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.760 is going on here? What do you think is going 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:21.240 on here? 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:25.040 Well, look, I mean all of the stated reasons, I 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.160 have nothing to do with any figure. Right, he's talking 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:32.760 about the drug running, the indictment in the Southern District 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:37.040 of New York for money laundering and drug running. Like 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:41.080 he pardoned the Honduran president let him go. So it's 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:45.040 not really about that. It's about ego, and it's about oil. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:49.960 It's about conquest, it's about power, it's about all of that. 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.600 And that's why they're talking now about Greenland. Okay, where's 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:57.240 the dictator in Greenland? This is all just a giant 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:01.480 power play. He actually should like Maduro. Maduro is a 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:05.800 strong man, Maduro criminal Maduro is just like him. 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:09.200 And Maduro has a great relationship with his buddy Putin 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:10.520 does buddy Putin. 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.520 They're all you know, they're all the same, and you 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:17.479 know it's not it's not about anyway helping the United 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.000 States in any way, shape or form. I mean, they've 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:23.360 been lying about Venezuela for a long time, talking about fentanyl. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.320 There's no fentanyl that comes from there. The whole thing 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.679 is elite lee. The boat strikes against people. They may 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:31.359 have been drug running, but they weren't drug running in 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.480 the United States, and they weren't drug running fentanyl they had. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.919 You know, those weren't even war crimes because they were 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.320 just straight out crimes. And now you know Mduro is 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:43.240 going to be guilty. He's a bad guy like Trump, 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.760 but that's got nothing to do with why he's here. 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:48.879 It's got nothing to do with why he's here. And 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:53.600 the danger of the dangerous pressor that's being set by 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.080 having the United States is going to take somebody out 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:58.720 when it's not in their our national winterest being we 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.280 have no basis in international law. That's going to come 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:03.919 back to bite us because the next time some you know, 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:09.040 we one of somebody we like somewhere that happens to them. 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.480 I mean, who are we going to be this to object? 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:12.320 Well? 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.600 And it also I mean there there's a nightmare scenario 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.720 where Putin is like okay Ukraine, where she she is 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:20.920 like okay Taiwan. 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:22.919 We have to be clean as a whistle. We have 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:25.639 to stand up for what is right because we you know, 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.919 the turn the worm can turn on us too. And 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:30.800 the thing about it too, iss like what what are 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.760 we doing? We we are never good at regime change, right, 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.600 We are never good at it, Like you can't create 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:41.440 a new government that doesn't have support within its borders, 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.119 and we're you know, we're we're not going to be 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.359 able to do that. In fact, we basically take this 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.480 guy out and all his cronies are in charge now. 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.440 So what's what was what was the point of this? 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:54.840 You know Trump, you know Kelly An, you know almost 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.280 all these people who work in this White House. 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:01.800 So what do you think the real point was? I 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.159 think the real point was a show of strength. And 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.480 I do think there's something about the oil. He's obsessed 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.280 with that oil. He's talked about that oil. 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:10.679 He said, we should have never could have taken the 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:12.919 we should have taken the oil from Iraq. 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.920 I think any of it was to distract from Epstein. 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:18.160 Like people are saying. 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.600 Sure, sure, I mean you know anything he's doing, he 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:25.679 you know, he's become more and more manic because of 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:30.640 the Epstein thing. Sure, absolutely, that's part of it. He's 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:35.120 been panicking about the Epstein thing, so more manick he becomes. 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.480 It's that's part of I think that's part of the 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.520 Epstein fall out. But why why what do you mean why. 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.320 Why is he panicked about Epstein? 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:44.320 What's in the file? 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:44.640 Some ian? 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:46.439 We still haven't seen what's in the files. We have 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.400 seen lots of reactions. I mean, he knows, he knows 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:53.479 what he knows, he's got something to hide. I mean 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:56.720 when he's talking about when you know that Marjorie Taylor Green, 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:58.320 did you see that? Wor? 0:19:58.680 --> 0:19:58.840 Right? 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.920 There are people? Are you gonna hurt my friends? Friends? 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:07.240 Donald Trump doesn't have friends, right, Donald Trump care about friends. 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.080 He's not trying to help anyone. There's only one person 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:13.719 Donald Trump cares about helping, and who's that Donald Trump? 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.640 So you can infer from that that he is concerned 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:22.680 about something in the files, and he's concerned that has 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.600 something to do with him. What that is no. I 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.040 think we've I think we've seen enough. I think the 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:32.040 birthday card we've seen enough. Right, Well, he why about 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.639 the birthday card. It's the signature matches the signature of 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:41.280 everything he's ever said. No, the United Kingdom had an ambassador, 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:46.720 a very prominent labor politician, Lady or Mandelsson, who had 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:51.280 a completely nondescript birthday card in that book, didn't have 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:52.560 a picture of a naked woman. 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:53.320 But guy was gay. 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:58.640 In fact, I met at dinner with them, okay, and 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:00.919 they out back. 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:02.000 Yeah. 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.800 Right, it's like the guy didn't do anything compared to 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:08.240 what Trump did, right, you know. 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:13.800 That's it's so let's talk through a little bit about 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:17.600 what you know right now. The House of Representatives has 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:22.879 it was just a member, a Republican who died in office, 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:25.680 sixty seven, sixty five years old. Not that all died 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:31.840 in office. So now the makeup is that they basically 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:35.960 Republicans have a one seat majority, and you have Thomas Massey, 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:38.600 who is already like if. 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:43.000 You're lumbering off the reservation every day, if you were. 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:47.320 In the House and Marjorie Taylor Green resigned today or yesterday, 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.879 if you are in the House, right now would you 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.800 be making an effort to try to flip more Republican votes? 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:57.800 I mean, did you Why do you think that's not happening. 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:01.760 I would hope that it's happening. We don't know that 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:04.040 it's not happening, because this is not the kind of 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:07.919 thing that's going to be happening out on Constant Tomorrow 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:11.360 Avenue where everybody can see it. I mean, I don't 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.160 know what the what the what the back rooms are 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.520 like there, I don't know who talks to whom, But 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:21.320 these people are starting to get it. They are starting 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.359 to see the end of the Trump rope. The wheels, 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:26.879 you know, pick the metaphor you like, the wheels are 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:29.879 falling off the bus. And and you see more and 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:33.960 more Republicans not running. They're scared, they know, they know 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:38.200 the game is up. That being said, we can't take 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.600 any of this for granted. We have to keep pushing 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:44.000 until he's gone, because the worst thing you can do 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:45.760 is kind of let up. And that's kind of what 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:49.439