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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: If you've listened to the show for a while, you

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Speaker 1: know there are three questions I ask all of my guests.

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Speaker 1: I ask, what do you think is our largest cultural

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Speaker 1: societal problem in America? And sometimes I sidebar to do

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Speaker 1: you think it's solvable? I ask do you feel like

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Speaker 1: you've made it? And then I ask my guests, usually

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Speaker 1: to end with their best tip for my listeners on

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Speaker 1: how they can improve their lives. In the last few episodes,

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Speaker 1: I've been talking about that last question. It's something I

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Speaker 1: enjoy discussing. I like thinking about improving my life. I

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Speaker 1: like taking steps to improve my life. I like caring

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Speaker 1: suggestions on how to improve my life. But now I

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Speaker 1: want to get into that first question because I've obviously

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Speaker 1: thought a lot about what I think is our largest

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Speaker 1: cultural problem, and while my answer changes from time to time,

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Speaker 1: I have one overarching one that I think is a

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Speaker 1: huge issue for us. I call it bystanderism. It's when

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Speaker 1: something bad is happening, everyone knows it's bad, and no

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Speaker 1: one steps in. I've written about this a lot in

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Speaker 1: the past. I wrote about it when there were various

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Speaker 1: abuse scandals, the one in Penn State or the one

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Speaker 1: with the Olympic gymnasts. I wrote one that stuck out

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Speaker 1: to me about a flight attendant forcing someone to put

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Speaker 1: their dog in the overhead compartment of an airplane and

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Speaker 1: how the dog barked until it died and no one

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Speaker 1: said a word. I'm not even a dog person. I'm allergic. Okay,

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Speaker 1: don't kill me, dog people, And there's no way in

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Speaker 1: the world that dog is going into the overhead compartment

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Speaker 1: while I'm on that flight. There's just no way. And

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Speaker 1: obviously the abuse scandals, I don't understand how so many

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Speaker 1: people knew or suspected or had an inkling and didn't

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Speaker 1: do or say anything. I just could never live with myself.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm not perfect, but there's absolutely no way

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Speaker 1: that I wouldn't get involved and step in. And I

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Speaker 1: don't care how popular you know the people involved are

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Speaker 1: or how highly regarded, it just really wouldn't matter to me.

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Speaker 1: A few days ago, the mayor of San Jose, Matt Mayhan,

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Speaker 1: was being interviewed on the street when an unwell man

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Speaker 1: attacked his security guy. The security guy and the man

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Speaker 1: got into this altercation, fighting in the street I mean,

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Speaker 1: it looked so bizarre while a bunch of people stood

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Speaker 1: around and watched filmed, called the police whatever. I tweeted

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Speaker 1: that it's not the crazed man that makes me afraid

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Speaker 1: for our society, but all the men standing around doing nothing.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how that can be someone's reaction. There

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Speaker 1: were a bunch of men, they could have taken that

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Speaker 1: I talked about this on an episode with Jesse Kelly

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Speaker 1: where we talked about how we want to raise the

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Speaker 1: kinds of kids that will jump into the terror fying

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Speaker 1: ocean to save their friend. And I admit it, like

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Speaker 1: I want my kids to be like that, but I

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Speaker 1: would be so scared and I'd be like, please don't

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Speaker 1: jump in, just save yourself. That's very high stakes. A

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Speaker 1: bunch of people subduing a guy on the street would

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Speaker 1: be far lower stakes, and still no one did it.

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Speaker 1: I get the arguments as to why that is. People

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Speaker 1: point to Daniel Penny, who was a bystander on a

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Speaker 1: aggressive homeless man. He's been arrested and may end up

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Speaker 1: in prison. For trying to save a train car full

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Speaker 1: of people from this deranged guy. People got the lesson

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Speaker 1: that stepping in could lead to problems. I get that,

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I remember hearing about our insane

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Speaker 1: litigious society in the nineteen eighties and being warned that

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Speaker 1: if someone falls down on the ground, don't help them

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Speaker 1: up in case they sue you. This was a whole thing,

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Speaker 1: but remember that last episode of Seinfeld. We used to

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Speaker 1: maybe not an arrestable offense, but still pretty bad. That

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Speaker 1: was nineteen ninety eight, and then heroes rushed into burning

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Speaker 1: buildings to save people on nine to eleven. Firemen, police officers, yes,

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Speaker 1: but also regular people. And then a few years later,

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Speaker 1: I was living in New York for the Blackout of

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Speaker 1: two thousand and three, and it was such a helpful time.

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Speaker 1: Nine to eleven wasn't that long ago, and everyone wanted

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Speaker 1: It was really really nice. Something has changed since then,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it's our phones and social media. And believe me,

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Speaker 1: sometimes I think that's our biggest societal problem. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's it, right, and that people answer that a lot

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Speaker 1: on the show, But it seems like too fast to

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Speaker 1: change for that to be the reason for this problem.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to fix this issue. In our house,

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Speaker 1: we talk a lot and have for years about not

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Speaker 1: being bystanders. You're expected to step in and help if

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Speaker 1: you can. Yes, there's a risk and something bad could happen, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: but the alternative is living in the world where no

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, an interview with Jimmy Fayla. Join us

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Speaker 1: after the break. Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio. My guest today is Jimmy Fayla, host of

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Speaker 1: Fox News Saturday Night, host of Fox Across America on

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Speaker 1: Fox News Radio, and the author of the awesome book

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Speaker 1: Cancel Culture Dictionary, The A to Z Guide on Winning

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Speaker 1: the War on fun.

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Speaker 2: Hi Jimmy, Hey, Carol, this is kind of a big deal.

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Speaker 2: It is like, now, me and you have this funny

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Speaker 2: relationship where we've done TV together and yeah, box events

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But you know how they always say,

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Speaker 2: like you never see two homeless guys hanging out on

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Speaker 2: the same street corner because their energy is contact. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So like the other guy who plays the saxophone, I'm

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Speaker 2: the guy who marangue dances with the doll on the subway.

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Speaker 2: But we are, but we did it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I'm going to rake in the cash.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, my money's on you because my marangue has really

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Speaker 2: gone downhill since I got the TV show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll practice whatever, you know. I loved your book.

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Speaker 1: I think you are so funny, and you're also just

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Speaker 1: so fun and you tackle serious stuff obviously, but you're

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Speaker 1: just always having a good time, and I think that

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Speaker 1: you are winning the war on fun. So how did

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Speaker 1: you get into the media world.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a wild story. So I always wanted to

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Speaker 2: do this, and I was driving, you know, a cab

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Speaker 2: with ambitions of doing this, and I was doing stand

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Speaker 2: up and trying to sell screenplays, which I can tell

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Speaker 2: you all about, and auditioning for TV roles and everything

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Speaker 2: in between. But my actual fox on entry, the point

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Speaker 2: of entry was Kennedy. One night, her booker saw me

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Speaker 2: at the Gotham Comedy Club down on twenty third and

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Speaker 2: seven and invited me to come on Kennedy's first show.

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Speaker 2: So the first time I was here at Fox, like

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Speaker 2: I've told the story a bunch like, I literally had

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Speaker 2: a taxi double parked outside of the film on Sixth Avenue. Trunk.

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Speaker 2: This is important, Okay, trunk open hazards on because that

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Speaker 2: makes the cops think you're running inside to get something.

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Speaker 2: Get Yeah, So that's how I bought my way out

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Speaker 2: Kennedy and got back into my cab and drove people

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Speaker 2: around bizarre. I love that that was the way in

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Speaker 2: as I started appearing on her show, and then within

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Speaker 2: and that kind of snowballed into radio, and then with

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Speaker 2: and here we are.

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Speaker 1: You're the best dressed man on TV.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense. I've kind of like for the pod.

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Speaker 2: I dialed it in. I tried to look like a

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Speaker 2: civilian and I don't actually dip into my cry for

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Speaker 2: Help collection that you might see me wearing in prime time.

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Speaker 2: Put a note on that. Greg gott felt, my stablemate

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Speaker 2: who makes fun of my clothes a lot only resents

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Speaker 2: them because they don't come in kids sizes. If you

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Speaker 2: could get my jackets as part of the Peter Dinklage collection,

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Speaker 2: he likes last. But anyway, it's good to be here.

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Speaker 1: It's good to have you. So do you feel like

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Speaker 1: you've made it?

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Speaker 2: So this is weird? I would think on paper, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: But I think something that gets you from driving a

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Speaker 2: taxi eighty four hours a week to hear is like

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Speaker 2: I almost call it, like there's like this abusive stage

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Speaker 2: dad that lives in your head, Carol, that just keeps

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Speaker 2: yelling at you until the second you go on stage.

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Speaker 2: And the reason I'm making this point is like it

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Speaker 2: Jackson's dad just yells at me all day and then

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Speaker 2: you look good, Michael, And I'm like really, And I

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Speaker 2: But when that's over, okay, your stage dad, just because

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Speaker 2: the arenas get bigger, you know, and maybe the wardrobe

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Speaker 2: gets fancier, your stage dad doesn't dial back the beatdown.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I walk around thinking I made it.

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Speaker 2: I think my friends do. I think my family does,

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Speaker 2: and I think for me, like what should have been

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Speaker 2: when my show launched, they had me on the Marriott

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Speaker 2: Marquee in Times Square, Billboard and Times Square. But you

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Speaker 2: know this is like a New Yorker, you don't take

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Speaker 2: the faith. So it's like, to me, it just like

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Speaker 2: a bad photoshop. Like I couldn't even give myself to win.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, does anyone you couldn't.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't hire anybody to like get out there and like,

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Speaker 1: you know, make this real for me, just like penises

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Speaker 1: on it?

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Speaker 2: No thank you? What are you're trying to say?

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Speaker 1: But just to be clear, there isn't actually a stage

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Speaker 1: dad with a switch beating Jimmy behind the scenes. This

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Speaker 1: is you do this to yourself?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, straight up. I mean there's a guy pay

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Speaker 2: on Craigslist, but that's not who I'm quote. I'm kidding,

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Speaker 2: that's not who I'm quoting here.

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Speaker 1: So in your book Cancel Culture Dictionary, you talk about

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Speaker 1: Hollywood and how they half the country regularly. Why do

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Speaker 1: they do this? Do they hate money?

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Speaker 2: I actually think they do it because they believe it

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Speaker 2: might lead to more money. Meaning if they, you know,

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Speaker 2: carry the views of the elites in Hollywood, they'll be

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Speaker 2: more likely to be cast by them and maybe be

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Speaker 2: a part of the in crowd. Like I'll give you

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Speaker 2: two quick examples, like Jimmy Kimmel, who obviously is hosting

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Speaker 2: the Oscars, so he's as far up as he could go.

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Speaker 2: But part of the reason he's there is because he's

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Speaker 2: essentially paying protection money to the woke mob for all

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Speaker 2: of the things he did early in his career, right

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Speaker 2: the Man Show, or all the blackface he wore when

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Speaker 2: he was doing his Carmelone sketches. You know, if he

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Speaker 2: didn't align with their political views, Jimmy Kimmel would have

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Speaker 2: been be unemployed for like ten years.

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Speaker 1: Right, He's just not even that funny.

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Speaker 2: So well, I believe this Carol like he's there those guys,

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Speaker 2: he's capable. I don't believe Colbert is capable. Like Colbear

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Speaker 2: is as funny as an orphanage on fire on death

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Speaker 2: with no survivors, which should be clear, it's not funny, okay,

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Speaker 2: not funny humor A Colbert is terrible. I believe Kimmel

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Speaker 1: Can you see yourself doing something in Hollywood, because I

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing. It's like, Carol, most of the

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Speaker 1: back on the Carol Markowitz Show. What would you say

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Speaker 2: I just think we're too connected. I think, honestly, I

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Speaker 2: But because our disagreements never separate, anymore. It's like we

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Speaker 2: once we got on Carol, we've never been off. We

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Speaker 2: up where we left off and realize how unnecessary. Ninety

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Speaker 2: you twenty years ago would have taken a picture of

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Speaker 2: I dig it. But if you showed people twenty years

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Speaker 2: it's not to say the dinner picture doesn't influence people.

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Speaker 2: It does. A weird we're in this weird vortex where

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Speaker 1: That absolutely, and I'm super influenced because like during the

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Speaker 2: Well that but that's where social media. No, you're right,

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Speaker 2: but that's where social media transformed politics because something Trump

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Speaker 2: you're not running for president anymore. You are running for

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Speaker 2: On Trump's end, it's him, He tweets, he does what

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Speaker 1: That's so wise, like really the class president thing that

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. I mean it also makes sense. You're

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Speaker 1: I mean this, No, it's really good.

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Speaker 2: No, but my analogies also peak at my level of education.

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Speaker 2: It's just like you'll notice, I didn't say this is

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Speaker 1: Right, So you're amazing, You're so funny. Your book Cancel

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Speaker 1: Culture Dictionary is fantastic. I really really enjoyed it. And

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Speaker 1: here with a tip for my listeners on how they

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Speaker 1: can improve their lives. How can they be happy like you?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, you got a perspective. That's the trick and most people,

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Speaker 2: I don't mean to get deep, like when I was

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Speaker 2: told me one day, your problem is like your alarm

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Speaker 2: that sucks. He's like, no matter how much you think

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Speaker 2: that's how I got arrested for fondling myself on the

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Speaker 2: people to police them for grievous Hey, is this cast

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Speaker 2: The point is if the joke's funny, it's funny. If

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Speaker 2: because we got to this place where we were rewarding grievous,

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Speaker 2: a lot of people broke their fun compas because they're like,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go towards the anger because you get likes

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Speaker 2: even if you don't like all the Chappelle's jokes, you'll

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Speaker 2: Carol is. Cancel culture has always existed before they were

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Speaker 2: social media. Like, we had people who went to comedy

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Speaker 2: called them losers, okay, And that's all that ever was.

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Speaker 2: If you go looking for the fun and you defund

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Speaker 2: the fun police, which is when they are, you probably

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Speaker 2: might wind up with my disposition. That's all I'm That's

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Speaker 2: all I'm doing differently than anybody else is I've just

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Speaker 2: calibrated to look for the good time.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Here's Jimmy Fayla. He is amazing. His

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Speaker 1: book is canceled Culture Dictionary, The A to Z Guide

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Speaker 1: on Winning the War on fund by It, watch his

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Speaker 1: show on Saturday nights and listen to him on Fox

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Speaker 1: News Radio.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Jimmy, I miss You're ready, Carroll,

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Speaker 2: I miss you too.

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Speaker 1: Let's hang out.

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Speaker 2: This is a great street corner.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us on The Carol Marcowitch Show.

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