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Speaker 1: My friends, Welcome to America's Voice Live on a shocking day.

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Speaker 1: News just coming out of Utah, or in Utah. Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 1: my friend, my colleague, has been gunned down at an

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Speaker 1: event there at Utah Valley University. I've seen the video

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Speaker 1: of my friends. I don't want to share with you

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Speaker 1: at this point. Charlie Kirk shot down during one of

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Speaker 1: his events where he takes questions and answers people in

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Speaker 1: the crowd. A shot ring out, a single shot. It

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Speaker 1: appears that he was hit in the neck. He went

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Speaker 1: down at the time, and I'll be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: my friends, it is what looks to be a devastating injury.

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Speaker 1: We don't have any updates on Charlie's condition at this moment.

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Speaker 1: He is our friend, he is our colleague, and he

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Speaker 1: is a voice of reason out there that has been

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Speaker 1: gunned down for daring to be an American, to tell

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Speaker 1: the truth, to believe in free speech, and to believe

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Speaker 1: in this country, and to believe in the future. Motions

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Speaker 1: here high as you can imagine this event happening within

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Speaker 1: the last twenty or twenty five minutes, We're going to

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Speaker 1: monitor it closely, and we're going to bring in some

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Speaker 1: other folks joining me. Christina Bob who has been the

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Speaker 1: focus of threats herself in the past, an attorney for

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Speaker 1: Donald Donald Trump to focus of an assassination attempt as

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Speaker 1: we all know Butler Pennsylvania July thirteenth of last year,

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Speaker 1: and again at his own golf course. Christina, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the program. I know this is happening fast. We're

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Speaker 1: trying to monitor the situation. Look, I'm upset, I am prayerful,

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Speaker 1: and i am angry that a guy that's out there

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Speaker 1: talking to college kids is gunned down in orem Utah,

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Speaker 1: beautiful sunny day. Charlie Kirk, we don't have any update

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Speaker 1: on his condition at this point. I know you've just

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Speaker 2: Your first reaction, it's shocking.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you and I were talking talking about it

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Speaker 3: before I had a chance to see the video, and

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Speaker 3: I saw it just before I came on here, and

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Speaker 3: I mean, it takes your breath away. It's disgusting, It's horrific.

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Speaker 3: These the people that are doing things like this are

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Speaker 3: absolute animals.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We better hear some really really strong condemnation from the

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Speaker 3: left immediately. We're sick of all of this talk from

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Speaker 3: the left that says, oh, you know, it's not a problem.

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Speaker 3: White people aren't being hunted. There's no problem. There's no

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Speaker 3: animosity towards white males. It's all white privilege. It's a

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Speaker 3: bunch of bs, and it's getting people hurt, potentially killed,

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Speaker 3: and it has to stop, and the Left has to

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Speaker 3: come out and condemn it.

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Speaker 2: This is evil.

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Speaker 3: What we just witnessed, what we saw happen with Charlie

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Speaker 3: Kirk is evil. My heart goes out to him, to

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Speaker 3: his family. Take a minute to pray for his family. Everybody,

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Speaker 3: please pray for the Kirk family. This is a really

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Speaker 3: devastating thing that happened. I hope he survives, but it

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Speaker 3: is it is absolutely tragic.

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Speaker 1: Utah Valuiverse or in Utah the scene of this horrific crime. Again,

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Speaker 1: if you're just joining us, Charlie Kirk has been gunned

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Speaker 1: down at one of his speaking events for Turning Point USA.

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Speaker 1: Of course, he is the founder of Turning Point USA.

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Speaker 1: He goes from campus to campus to talk to students

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Speaker 1: about Christianity and America and the Constitution and free speech.

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Speaker 2: According to one witness.

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Speaker 1: Here and again this is unconfirmed, but we're going with

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Speaker 1: the information we get.

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Speaker 2: As it comes in.

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Speaker 1: There is a suspect in custody, according to the University,

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Speaker 1: According to Newsweek, there is a custody in a person

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Speaker 1: of interest, a suspect in custody at this very moment.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching the videos here. According to those close.

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Speaker 1: By, they did not see Charlie get up afterwards. Again,

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Speaker 1: we do not know the condition of Charlie Kirk at

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Speaker 1: this hour. What I do know is that violence in America,

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Speaker 1: targeting political opponents, targeting those who say things you don't like,

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Speaker 1: is the antithesis of who we are as Americans. Christina.

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Speaker 1: We believe in free space. We don't gun down our

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Speaker 1: political opponents. We do not stand idly by and allowed

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Speaker 1: to have it. And I agree with you if I

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Speaker 1: don't hear from liberal commentators, from those on the left

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Speaker 1: has gone too far. The gunning down of conservatives, the

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Speaker 1: attacks on conservatives, whether it's a Catholic school or Charlie

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Speaker 1: We're waiting for any information to give us an indication

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Speaker 1: devastating to me. It sounds like a high powered rifle.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, I agree with you. I did hear it

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Speaker 3: when I watched the video, and that is what it

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Speaker 3: and the left continues to protect the villains. The left

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Speaker 3: continues to protect these shooters, and they refuse to condemn

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Speaker 3: the people doing these shootings. And it has to stop.

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Speaker 3: And the fact that they are moving their targets from

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Speaker 3: completely innocent children, conservative Catholics to political opponents, people exercising

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Speaker 3: their free speech. Where you have a happy environment where kids,

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Speaker 3: university students are coming out to learn, to debate, to

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Speaker 3: engage in political debate. That is the heart of democracy.

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Speaker 3: And they are coming for us. They are targeting us,

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Speaker 3: They are targeting our families. This is so sick and

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Speaker 3: it's so wrong, and the left has to condemn it.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: The right has been condemning it, and the left is

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Speaker 3: stirring and stoking violence by coming out and saying, oh,

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is creating violence by sending in the National Guard.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not, absolutely not, I'm sick.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's absolutely false. Donald Trump did not spark those violence.

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Speaker 1: Free speech and the people that hate free speech in

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Speaker 1: willing to kill them if possible. It appears again again.

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Speaker 1: For anybody joining us, let me just run through the facts.

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Speaker 1: They're thin at this hour. It's only been about twenty

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Speaker 1: five minutes. Conservative activist Charlie Kirk, our friend, our colleague

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Speaker 1: on this network. My friend, apparently shot in the neck

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Speaker 1: during a student question and answer session at Utah Valley

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Speaker 1: University that is in Orum, Utah.

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Speaker 2: According to bystanders. Here's what we know.

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Speaker 1: Kirk was reportedly shot in the neck well seated during

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Speaker 1: a Q and A session which he does. He goes out,

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Speaker 2: He'll debate anybody. I wouldn't say.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he fell from the chair of the

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Speaker 1: video that you have shows him get shot.

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Speaker 2: And get hit, but the video cuts away.

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Speaker 1: But those standing there said he fell to the ground,

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Speaker 1: which would make sense. An evacuation of the UVU campus

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Speaker 1: Senator Mike Lee, posting that he is monitoring the situation,

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Speaker 1: urging prayers for Charlie Kirk. Iur's the same my friends.

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Speaker 1: We don't know his condition. We don't know how grievously

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Speaker 1: coming out urging prayers for Charlie Kirk after the shooting.

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Speaker 1: He's called for prayers for the conservative activist. In a

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Speaker 1: a young husband. Utah Valley University has released preliminary details

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Speaker 1: following the reported shooting of Charlie Kirk during this campus

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Speaker 1: A spokesman telling Newsweek Kirk ben speaking around one o'clock Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: the shooting happened sometime around one point twenty a single

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Speaker 1: shot from a nearby building roughly two hundred yards. That's

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Speaker 1: the latest information that would confirm to me that it's

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Speaker 1: some sort of a rifle. Obviously, Christina, as we've worked

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Speaker 1: confirming that Kirk wasn't fact shot that a suspect is

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Speaker 1: in custody on immediate lockdown has been prompted. This is

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Speaker 1: all part of his national campus tour. Look, Christina, we

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Speaker 1: both know Charlie.

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Speaker 2: He's wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Talk to anybody, debate anybody, any topic, and he's pretty

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Speaker 2: He'll take all.

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Speaker 1: He'll take atheist, he'll take communists, he'll take anybody. He'll

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Speaker 1: talk to anybody. Today he took a bullet for believing

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Speaker 3: It's disgusting and it just to show the first thing

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Speaker 3: He's a good debater. He makes very good points and

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Speaker 3: when the left can't win a.

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Speaker 1: Debate, hold on, Christina one second, Christina, one second there,

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Speaker 1: just hold your thought right there, Bring that full guys,

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Speaker 1: if you could. I want to be able to see

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Speaker 1: that we've got a response from Donald Trump on truth

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Speaker 1: social I am told if we can bring that up,

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Speaker 1: it would be greatly appreciated.

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Speaker 2: There it is.

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Speaker 1: We must all pray for Charlie Kirk, who has been shot.

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Speaker 1: A great guy from top to bottom. God bless him.

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Speaker 1: This's just coming in from Yeah, from the White House. Look,

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Speaker 1: this is a terrible, terrible situation.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how else to describe it.

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Speaker 1: I cannot believe that in America in twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: young people. That's what Charlie believes in young people. He

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Speaker 1: gets gunned down for a Christina, Go ahead, you can continue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what the left does. They can't win.

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Speaker 3: They know they've lost the American people. They've lost the

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Speaker 3: popular vote, They've lost on every policy issue, almost every

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Speaker 3: They want to throw us in prison. I'm currently a

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Speaker 3: criminal defendant as we speak. They're trying to throw us

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Speaker 3: bankrupt us. This is unacceptable. It has to be condemned. Immediately,

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Speaker 3: and it has to be condemned.

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Speaker 2: It has to be in the strongest possible terms.

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Speaker 1: And uh in Utah, yes, I say this. The penalties

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Speaker 1: are severe. The penalties are severe in Utah. One second.

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Speaker 1: Hold that thought right there for one second. We have

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Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green. She waited on this and on this

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Speaker 1: did the congressional member from Georgia just a few moments ago.

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Speaker 2: Here's what she said. I I like to ask for

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Speaker 2: prayer for Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 3: It's being reported that he's been shot at an event.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, Well, have a moment of silence.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for pointing that out. Any other.

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Speaker 1: I would also like to say, we'll take time here

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Speaker 1: to pray on real America's voice for our friend and colleague,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. My friends, I'll just be square with you here.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of experience in the woods. I

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Speaker 1: have a lot of experience with this sort of situation.

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Speaker 1: To me, it looks devastating. I hope and pray that

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but this looks like a devastating hit from

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Speaker 1: two hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: We're told in the latest update that I have here.

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Speaker 1: Charlie fell from his chair, gunned down at this event

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Speaker 1: in Utah, and under a tenth that says American comeback,

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Speaker 1: under attenth that says American comeback. Because he believes in

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, because he believes in this country, because he

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Speaker 3: Conservatives need to hear from our government leaders right now

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Speaker 1: Live a gut wrenching afternoon for all of us here

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Speaker 1: Kirk was shot in the neck while seated at a

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Speaker 1: We do not know the condition of Charlie Kirk. But

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Speaker 1: I can't believe in twenty twenty five, I'm sitting herealking

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Speaker 1: Gunned down because he loved America, because he believed in

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Speaker 2: A train in North Carolina that does nothing wrong. It's

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Speaker 1: I think I got Grant Sinchfield here, I got Christina.

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Speaker 2: There's Grant coming and we'll get to him.

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Speaker 2: For the love of God, it's got to stop.

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Speaker 6: Grant your thoughts, Steve, I'm listening to you, and I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking about that organization that he has. Here's a

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Speaker 4: And I'll be honest with folks out there, if Charlie

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Speaker 4: It will take the hand of God to save Charlie

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Speaker 4: Kirk after the video that I saw. Now, I've known

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Speaker 4: this is outrageous what has happened, and it is always

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Speaker 5: He was shot for speaking his mind.

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Speaker 4: He was shot for defending the Constitution, believing in God,

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Speaker 2: That's right. I just saw here in my studio.

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Speaker 2: Apparently there's a suspect in custody.

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Speaker 1: What motive could there possibly be to target a man

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Speaker 3: It's absolutely heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking. I mean, Charlie Kirk has

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Speaker 3: And I pray for a miracle. We've seen miracles. We've

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Speaker 1: Right now, we have to be interesting. I appreciate you

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Speaker 4: You know, as I think about everything that went down

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Speaker 4: Brian Stelter, Van Jones, CNN villified Charlie Kirk as a

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Speaker 4: Do you think it's a coincidence that somebody shoots and

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Speaker 1: It's out there every day, Steve, and you're like me,

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Speaker 5: And I'll say this as well, and I.

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Speaker 4: You win it with the truth, you win it with words,

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Speaker 5: You don't win it with guns.

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Speaker 4: Now, you defend yourself with guns, but you don't go

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Speaker 5: In America. That's not how we do things.

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Speaker 4: Sadly, it is how the left does things, and that's

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Speaker 5: And to me, it's an absolute.

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Speaker 4: I'd say it's a sad but as I saw your

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Speaker 4: I don't know how else you describe it other than that,

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Speaker 4: but we're at a point where this cannot this cannot

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Speaker 1: All right, Grant hold on one second, bring you in

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Speaker 5: John.

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Speaker 1: Obviously a devastating day even watching the news develop here

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Speaker 1: the power of prayer is remarkable. It's all I've seen

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Speaker 7: John, your thoughts, Well, there's a lot we still need

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Speaker 7: to learn. I think it's obvious to make the assumptions

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Speaker 7: that we're going to make, but I think at the

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Speaker 7: end of the day, we need to know who the

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Speaker 7: shooter is, why he did it. But I think regardless

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Speaker 7: of the specifics of this, we have seen this pattern

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Speaker 7: play out since the baseball game in twenty seventeen, the

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Speaker 7: Congressional baseball game practice, where a leftist terrorist tried to

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Speaker 7: kill members of Congress, and if it weren't for a

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Speaker 7: few brave police officers, we might have had a much

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Speaker 7: worse tragedy that day. We've seen it in the shooting

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Speaker 7: that he still was unexplained in Las Vegas at MGM.

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Speaker 7: We've seen it in the two assassination attempts with President

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Speaker 7: Trump in the last year, and I think at the

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Speaker 7: end of the day after the first or second assassination

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Speaker 7: attemp on President Trump, first Lady Milania Trump said something profound,

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Speaker 7: which is, we've allowed our political anger to become so

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Speaker 7: vitriolic that we no longer see humans.

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Speaker 2: We see video game figures.

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Speaker 7: And people don't feel any moral consequence in shooting someone

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Speaker 7: in the name of political anger or whatever is troubling them.

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Speaker 7: And I think that that is a really dangerous place

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Speaker 7: to be in this country.

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Speaker 2: The division the rhetoric.

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Speaker 7: We can have political disagreements without settling them. This way,

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Speaker 7: we can have discourse in a debate about the future

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Speaker 7: of the country, but this is never going to be

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Speaker 7: the way to do it. And whether this was a

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Speaker 7: political act yet, we don't know, but we certainly know

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Speaker 7: the rhetoric encourages things like this far too often. And

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Speaker 7: until we get a grip on that, until people on

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Speaker 7: both sides of the political I'll start speaking out aggressively

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Speaker 7: to stop it. I fear we're gonna have more episodes

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Speaker 7: like this. And I was just with Charlie two weeks ago.

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Speaker 7: I spoke at his event in Colorado, and he's he

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Speaker 7: was acutely aware of the risk, but he also said

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Speaker 7: this country's worth fighting for. And I feel like we're

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Speaker 7: in a moment of extra ordinary opportunity, and he was

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Speaker 7: never going to be unbowed by those who criticized him

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Speaker 7: or threatened him. And I think even in this moment,

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Speaker 7: as he's fighting for his life, I think Charlie probably

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Speaker 7: still reflects that way that what he was doing the

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Speaker 7: last few years is worth doing, because we're trying to

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Speaker 7: save a country and hand it off to a new

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Speaker 7: generation in better shape than it is right now.

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Speaker 2: So a lot there.

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Speaker 7: We're all praying for Charlie, know him well, known him

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Speaker 7: for a long time, went to one of his very

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Speaker 7: firsts TPUSA events. We talk often on the phone, and

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Speaker 7: we're all praying for him and hoping that the first

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Speaker 7: responders did a great job and that we get some

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Speaker 7: good news out of this in the near future.

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Speaker 2: John, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: You and I sat together in July the day after

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Speaker 1: the assassination attempting Butler Pennsylvania on the President. We were

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Speaker 1: in Milwaukee to the RNC. We you and I have

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Speaker 1: been through this together before. But I think you're right

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Speaker 1: here is Charlie Kirk, a guy who I believe knew

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Speaker 1: the risks. He's out there talking to young people all

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Speaker 1: the time. He has security, but you can't secure an

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Speaker 1: entire campus that way. He knew what the risks were,

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Speaker 1: but he also knew this country was worth fighting for.

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Speaker 1: He knows what the stakes are going forward, for his

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Speaker 1: two young children, for the young people that he would

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Speaker 1: do questions and answers with. That's what made Charlie so special.

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Speaker 1: He would talk to anybody. He would take questions from

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Speaker 1: anybody on any topic at any time and have a

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Speaker 1: conversation and never hostile. He didn't have to agree with him,

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Speaker 1: but he wasn't hostile to him. He would accept the

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Speaker 1: question and have a real conversation. John, I think that's

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Speaker 1: what made him so special.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 7: He was the anti antithesis of intolerance. He was willing

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Speaker 7: to debate without demean he was willing to engage without insulting,

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Speaker 7: and he believed strongly that we could solve a lot

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Speaker 7: of our differences with just a good old fashioned conversation.

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Speaker 7: And sadly, someone today tried to stop that conversation. I

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Speaker 7: hope that person, whoever he or she is, does not

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Speaker 7: succeed and that we learn from this us And but Charlie,

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Speaker 7: for all of his strong political briefs, was a very

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Speaker 7: tolerant person.

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Speaker 2: He was willing to have a debate.

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Speaker 7: He was supremely confident that his positions would win in

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Speaker 7: the debate. But he was not a person to demean.

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Speaker 7: He was not a person to be mean. And I

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Speaker 7: think those who today tried to take his life they

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Speaker 7: picked the wrong person to fight with. He's the He's

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Speaker 7: the ultimate example of how we should have political discourse

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Speaker 7: intellectual discourse, just like our founding fathers. And so we're

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Speaker 7: all praying and hoping for the best. But you're right

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Speaker 7: about that, Charlie. Mean, Charlie, I had many many personal

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Speaker 7: conversations and debates over the years, and when they.

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Speaker 2: Were concent jobs.

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Speaker 1: Have been very stagnant at best responses. Uh most One

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Speaker 1: of the biggest defenders MSNBC one have been thinking is

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Speaker 1: calling Charlie Kirk divisive and polarizing.

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Speaker 2: After he had been shot.

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Speaker 1: Another MSNBC anchor saying the shooter might have been a

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Speaker 1: supporter shooting their gun off and celebration. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: kind of nonsenses be, what kind of filth is being

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Speaker 1: spewed on MSNBC or CNN.

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Speaker 2: Look, I try to focus on the facts. You and

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Speaker 2: I know each other pretty well.

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Speaker 1: We try to make sure that we talk in facts

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Speaker 1: and round our conversations and reality. And I look at

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Speaker 1: this filth. It's filth. It's like a manure spreader. It's

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Speaker 1: some of these networks where am I wrong? No, listen

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Speaker 1: the divisions that listen.

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Speaker 7: MSNBC lives on profiting from division and hatred. All the

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Speaker 7: things they said about me and my reporting with under binding,

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Speaker 7: they weren't true. As long as America creates a profit

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Speaker 7: center for these divisive voices, they'll continue to be divisive.

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Speaker 7: The way we stop it is by not supporting those

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Speaker 7: networks with our eyeballs, not supporting those networks with our advertising.

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Speaker 7: And I think in America, the truth of the matter

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Speaker 7: is MSNBC has a very marginally small audience. It really

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Speaker 7: is irrelevant to most Americans. But for the few that

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Speaker 7: it is, it revs them up and you worry about

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Speaker 7: whether they put people into a frenzy to do silly things.

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Speaker 7: But we have the power to fix this. We've always

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Speaker 7: had the power to fix this. And there was a

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Speaker 7: moment in the nineties where the far right with people

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Speaker 7: like Tim McVeigh, thought that violence was the way to

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Speaker 7: perpetrate their thoughts, and we spoke up against it and

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Speaker 7: we stop it. We need the same moral clarity and

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Speaker 7: moral versus today on the left to come up and

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Speaker 7: say this is not the way we solve our differences

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Speaker 7: and really mean it, not do the lip service, but

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Speaker 7: to really mean We've got to stop this.

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Speaker 2: And part of it may be punishing people who.

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Speaker 7: Boil the water too much, even with punishing with ad

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Speaker 7: dollars and other things, but we've got to find a

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Speaker 7: way to get to a more civil discourse or our

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Speaker 7: enemies overseas will have succeeded in creating the division they

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Speaker 7: want here in this great country.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to bring it back to something else here, John.

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Speaker 1: That's become a part and parcel to the left's tactics

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Speaker 1: when it comes to being over the line of my estimation.

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Speaker 2: That's doxing. Who's safe anymore? John? Are you am? I?

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Speaker 1: Are people that are out there willing to say what

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Speaker 1: they believe and to put their opinions out there, mostly

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Speaker 1: conservatives because I don't see it going the other way?

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Speaker 2: Are you safe? Am I safe?

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Speaker 1: Are people like those that appear on this network or

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Speaker 1: other right lead networks. Are they safe orre they free

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Speaker 1: game today? Based on what we've seen because of doxing

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Speaker 1: and the targeting and all the vile rhetoric coming from

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Speaker 1: places like MSNBC or The View or pick your poison now.

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Speaker 7: Listen, the great American experiment isn't safe if we continue

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Speaker 7: to allow this to be the way we settle our

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Speaker 7: political disputes. If violence becomes the solution to it, then

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Speaker 7: the entire American experience and all that our founding fathers

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Speaker 7: fought for with the First Amendment isn't safe.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I think it's.

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Speaker 7: In great danger what I see in Great Britain and

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Speaker 7: when I saw Joe Biden's administration tried to do to

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Speaker 7: free speech in America. The American variance is not safe

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Speaker 7: right now from those who want to destroy it from

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Speaker 7: outside and from withinside.

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Speaker 2: You know, I just got docks last week.

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Speaker 7: A former FBI whistleblower that was mad about something put

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Speaker 7: my phone number out. I can't tell you the amount

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Speaker 7: of mean, hateful and sometimes threatening calls I got as

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Speaker 7: a result of that doxing. So it happens, it's immature,

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Speaker 7: it's stupid. There needs to be a penalty for people

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Speaker 7: who do it because they're trying to create harm to people.

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Speaker 7: I believe in free speech, and I'll let someone debate

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Speaker 7: all day whether I'm right or wrong. But putting my

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Speaker 7: family in jeopardy, or putting my personal safety or my

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Speaker 7: phone in jeopardy is just childish. It's below those of

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Speaker 7: us who have an IQ in America. And for those

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Speaker 7: who do it, they ought to pay a price. And

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Speaker 7: all of us play a role in solving this. We

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Speaker 7: start by praying with Charlie today and getting him through

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Speaker 7: this moment if we can, and then I think we

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Speaker 7: need to have a more serious conversation. I think the

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Speaker 7: President of the United States, who saw what political violence

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Speaker 7: and hatred looks like, has an extraordinary moral pulpit to

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Speaker 7: lay in on this and help us. And I think

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Speaker 7: other presidents are their leaders, those who at times have

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Speaker 7: boiled the water, the pelosis of the world, and the

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Speaker 7: atom shifts of the world. If they have an ounce

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Speaker 7: of decency, if they have a moment of concern for

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Speaker 7: this country, it's time for them to put their political

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Speaker 7: vitriol side and start being concerned about the environment. They've

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Speaker 7: helped create. I hope that moment is around the horizon.

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Speaker 7: I'm not naive. It maybe hard to get there. But

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Speaker 7: if there are real leaders, like in past generations of America,

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Speaker 7: some of those who boil the water and the past

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Speaker 7: will step into the void in the next twenty four

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Speaker 7: hours and try to comment and try to create a

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Speaker 7: new dynamic for political discourse. If not, everyone who stays

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Speaker 7: silent is a perpetrator in this demise of discourse in

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Speaker 7: free speech in America.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, John, who is that person

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Speaker 1: for the Democrats, Who is that person on MSNBC, Who

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Speaker 1: is that person on the left, Because right now nobody

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Speaker 1: comes to mind for me, John, And I'm sad to

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Speaker 1: say that today there were times in this country when

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Speaker 1: you set things aside. On the on the eve of

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Speaker 1: nine to eleven, we sit here and reflect twenty four

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Speaker 1: years ago. We came together when America was attacked in

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Speaker 1: two nine and ninety seven people died in the Twin

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Speaker 1: Towers and in the aftermath, and also together what happened

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Speaker 1: to America in the last quarter century, John, Because I

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Speaker 1: don't see Democrats on the other side. They're not the

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Speaker 1: same as they used to be Look, I'm the same guy.

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Speaker 1: I believe in freedom of speech. You can say things

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Speaker 1: that offend me and upset me. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: attack you or your family. I'm certainly not going to

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Speaker 1: shoot you. I'm not going to assassinate you in front

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Speaker 1: of a crowd of people.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, listen, I don't know who that person is.

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Speaker 7: Josh Shapiro recently had a horrifying experiment experience in his

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Speaker 7: own governor's mansion. Nancy Pelosi's husband suffered from a violent

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Speaker 7: act in his home.

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Speaker 2: These are people that could have taken.

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Speaker 7: Those moments and done something with it, and they might

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Speaker 7: still do something with it. I don't know, but someone,

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Speaker 7: many people are going to have to fill this void

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Speaker 7: pretty quickly if we're going to get past this moment

658
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 7: in history. You look at the polling, you look at

659
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 7: young Americans, and again, we don't know anything about the

660
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 7: person who is the alleged shooter here, but a jaw

661
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 7: dropping amount of Americans currently believe that political violence is

662
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 7: a righteous way for solving matters in America. That was

663
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 7: not the case in earlier generations. How did we create

664
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 7: a generation of people in our school system and our

665
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 7: social media platforms who think that shooting someone is a

666
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 7: way to solve a political.

667
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: Issue in America.

668
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Speaker 7: I don't know, but if you're a social media platform,

669
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 7: if you're one of those educators that taught that in school,

670
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 7: you've done a great disservice.

671
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 2: Not just to those who.

672
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Speaker 7: Are in your immediate realm of influence, You've done it

673
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 7: to the entire country. And I think we've got to

674
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 7: examine the social media platforms. We could examine the Chinese

675
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 7: influence on TikTok, which I think has encouraged a lot

676
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 7: of this division. And I think we need to also

677
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 7: take a look at our education system, which is programmed

678
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 7: people to think that hate and intolerance is a righteous thing,

679
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 7: when in fact it's a reprehensible thing.

680
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: It is a reprehensible thing.

681
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Speaker 1: All right, there's the hospital Charlie Kirk was taken to

682
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: after being shot about an hour and twenty minutes ago.

683
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: Now keeping track of this as we watched the clock

684
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Speaker 1: waiting to hear any update on Charlie Kirk's condition. For

685
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: anyone enjoining, let me give you the facts as we

686
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: know them. Charlie Kirk was shot around one twenty around

687
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Speaker 1: one twenty local time in orm Utah at University Valley,

688
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: the University Valley of Utah campus. You Senator Mike Lee

689
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: has posted.

690
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: Jade Vance has posted, in fact, put back up as

691
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Speaker 2: you would.

692
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump put up on truth social comment on Charlie

693
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Speaker 1: Kirk that we should be praying for Charlie and we are.

694
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: It was a devastating and hit. The video is all

695
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: over social media. Sadly.

696
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: JD.

697
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: Vance say a prayer for Charlie Kirk, a genuinely good

698
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: guy and young father two young children. Charlie Kirk has

699
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: that's the hospital in Utah. Do have Donald Trump's true

700
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: social remarks too? Please when you put that up while

701
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: we watch the hospital, We're hoping that the hand of

702
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Speaker 1: God can work on Charlie's behalf there. We must all

703
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: pray for Charlie Kirk, said the president who has been shot.

704
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Speaker 2: A great guy from top to bottom, and God bless him.

705
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Speaker 1: God bless him today shot in Utah.

706
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Speaker 2: We do know that. According to you, I'll say this.

707
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Speaker 2: According to Newsweek, the.

708
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: University says that a suspect is in custody. There are

709
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: pictures circulating on social media, but we're not prepared to

710
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: confirm those yet, John, because we don't know we've seen

711
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: this too many times where pictures are circulated, it's not

712
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: somebody that's actually involved with a case. The shots rang

713
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: out approximately one twenty local time, a single shot fired

714
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: from the top of a nearby building.

715
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: It roughly two hundred yards from where.

716
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Speaker 1: Charlie was sitting and taking questions from the crowd. John,

717
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: all we can do is sit here and wait and

718
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: pray that the outcome is a good one.

719
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Speaker 7: We're kind of pay well those facts which you know,

720
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 7: we're going to get more facts, and often the fog

721
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 7: of war in an incident like this, the facts change

722
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 7: a little bit. But it does suggest that this was

723
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 7: a significantly premeditated act, maybe the act of a sniper

724
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 7: or someone who was trying to do something bad. And

725
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 7: we've seen this far too often, whether it was the

726
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 7: young man in Butler, Pennsylvania, or the gunman in Las

727
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 7: Vegas sitting up a parapet in a hotel window and

728
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 7: spraying down on music singers, our country music fans in Vegas.

729
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 7: These are people that have taken some time to carry

730
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 7: out an act in these circumstances, and all of us

731
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 7: know that that means other people might have been in

732
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 7: the know or had some suspicion, and it's a reminder

733
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 7: that if we see someone teetering towards such a horrific event,

734
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 7: how important it is to say something immediately and to

735
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 7: get to police. We saw recently an effort by Cash

736
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 7: Bettel and the local sheriff's to part North Carolina stop

737
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 7: a person who was about to create a massacre at

738
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 7: a school. Someone had to speak up to make that possible.

739
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 7: I think that's great. We need more of that. But again,

740
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 7: all of these events. The more we look at these

741
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 7: events in the last few months, you have people that

742
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 7: have spent some time thinking out how they're going to

743
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 7: do this and preparing and prepping and potentially taking actions

744
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 7: that might tip someone else off. And I think if

745
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 7: that turns out to be the case here with some

746
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 7: of the early evidence that we're hearing, it's a reminder

747
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 7: that if you see something suspicious, how important it is

748
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 7: to speak up so that we don't have a regret

749
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 7: a few moments later.

750
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Speaker 2: And we're going to learn a lot more.

751
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 7: But it's a pretty extraordinary and sad day for America.

752
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 2: It's a sad day for Charlie. He was a young

753
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: dad and a good young dad.

754
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 7: Somebody's very proud of being a dad, and he wanted

755
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 7: to hand up He said this to me in Colorado,

756
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 7: I want to hand off a country to my children

757
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 7: who is better than the one I got. And that's

758
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 7: what got him up in the morning and probably what

759
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 7: he thought when he went to bed. He meant it sincerely.

760
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 7: He said some very profound things in our Q and

761
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 7: A on stage, and you got a sense that Charlie

762
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 7: really has a great passion for this country. And I

763
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 7: think today we all should be sad that someone that

764
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 7: had that passion and that love, regardless of our political views,

765
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 7: that someone thought it was a righteous thing to do

766
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 7: or an appropriate thing to do to try to silence

767
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 7: that voice. And I hope they haven't succeeded. I hope

768
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 7: we get some good news out of this in the

769
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 7: near future.

770
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: I hope we do too. John Charlie Kirk found a

771
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: turning point USA. I mean, let's just reflect on Charlie

772
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: Kirk for a moment. Let's talk about the fact that

773
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: he is a unique individual. He's only in his early thirties, right,

774
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: thirty one, thirty two years old, was able to create

775
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: turning Point USA. In twenty twelve, He's created this movement

776
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: in America of young people. I mean, if you go

777
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: to his evench John, which you have and I have

778
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: the enthusiasm the young people, and you see young people

779
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: becoming more conservative every day, right, You see this happening

780
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: every day, people becoming more conservative. And Charlie Kirk is

781
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: one of the driving forces behind.

782
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: That movement, isn't he?

783
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 7: He was when I went to his first event, I

784
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 7: think in December twenty fifteen was the first time I

785
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 7: I spoke and was involved at event, Maybe there were

786
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 7: six or seven hundred people of their tops, and now

787
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 7: there are thousands. And Charlie said something to me two

788
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 7: weeks ago when we were in Colorado, and he said

789
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 7: that all that needed to be done was to let

790
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 7: people who thought like me and grew up in values

791
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 7: and families that taught right from wrong, and that America

792
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 7: is good, that it's okay to have those thoughts and

793
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 7: to have those opinions, and you can be conservative and cool.

794
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 7: You don't have to be bowed into taking someone else's

795
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 7: bullying into a new political viewpoint. And that's what motivated

796
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 7: And I said, well, did you ever imagine the success?

797
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 7: And he said I did because I knew once someone

798
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 7: would stand shoulders shoulder with one person, then the next person,

799
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 7: the next person, we'd create a movement, and that lots

800
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 7: of people who had these values wouldn't have bandoned those

801
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 7: values because they were bullied in the public square or

802
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 7: bullied in the schoolhouse, or bullied on social media. So

803
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 7: he understood what he was doing. He was creating a

804
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 7: massive support system for people to feel comfortable about being conservative,

805
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 7: about being law and order, about being Christian, and not

806
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 7: having to be apologetic or be forced to change those opinions.

807
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 7: And he understood the power of positive peer pressure. So

808
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 7: I think what he called it positive peer pressure. And

809
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 7: I really realized at such a young age, because he

810
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 7: starts at eighteen, nineteen twenty dropping out of college to

811
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 7: pursue this passion he had. How wise he was beyond

812
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 7: his ears understanding that was social media and events and discussion.

813
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 7: He could allow people whose natural values were to be conservative,

814
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 7: or to be life protecting or a liberty protecting that

815
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 7: all they needed to come out of the political closet

816
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 7: was a few more friends alongside them, and he changed

817
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 7: those friends across his country. It's in the millions now,

818
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 7: and I think a lot of people I talk to

819
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 7: believe that he's a significant reason why we're seeing Zoomer's

820
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 7: gen Z people become a more conservative, overtly conservative generation

821
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 7: after the Millennials who clearly lean to the left. He

822
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 7: stood up for people who were bullied on campus. He

823
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 7: stood up for those who had no voice. He stood

824
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 7: up for those who saw their freedoms taken away for

825
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 7: no reason other than mob mentality in these universities. And

826
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 7: I think he's made college campus is a more tolerant,

827
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 7: albeit a work in progress environment. And I think he's

828
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 7: given an entire generation of Americans the courage to be

829
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 7: who their values say they want to be, as opposed

830
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 7: to what TikTok social media or your leftist teacher told

831
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 7: you had to be. And I think that's an extraordinary

832
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 7: accomplishment for someone in their thirties. And I hope when

833
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 7: he's in his fifties and sixties, if he gets through

834
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 7: this day, he'll have many more numbers to put under

835
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 7: that accolade. But it's an amazing accolade. Look at that

836
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 7: crowd that you're showing on screen there right now, Steve.

837
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 7: That's just one location, but all across college campuses people

838
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 7: come to see him find fellowship in realizing that it's

839
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 7: okay to love America, believe in freedom, believe in life,

840
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 7: and be a Christian and not have to apologize for it.

841
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 7: And I think that's an amazing legacy he's already created

842
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 7: in a young part in his life.

843
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't apologize for being an American. That's really what

844
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: it's all about here, because he believes in this country

845
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: and the hope of the future and the hope of

846
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: his two young children.

847
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: He believes in these things. Is Charlie Kirk, and he

848
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: knew the risk.

849
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 5: John.

850
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: We talked about that just for a moment ago.

851
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: He knew the risks of going out there that you

852
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: could be targeted, like the baseball game you spoke about

853
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: back in twenty seventeen. When these things happen, it can

854
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: steal the resolve. I don't think an attack on Charlie

855
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: Kirk lessons what he has started. It galvanizes it. It

856
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: moves it forward because people say, this is not the

857
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 1: America I want. I don't want crazy, hateful people trying

858
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: to kill those that are standing up for me and

859
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: for my country and for my future. This insanity will

860
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: not continue. It will not be tolerated and everything that

861
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: he stood on. And again, I go back to Charlie.

862
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: When he talks on campuses, he takes everybody. He's not condescending,

863
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: he's not hateful, he's not spiteful, He's conversational. Now he

864
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: doesn't agree with a lot of the things that are

865
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: said to him on a variety of topics.

866
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: That's okay. That's what America is supposed to be.

867
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: We're supposed to be able to have a robust debate

868
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: of ideas.

869
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 2: That's the point of America.

870
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: In fact, freedom of speech is the baseline, pivotal position

871
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: of this country.

872
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: It's the defining issue.

873
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: The First Amendment of the United States of America is

874
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: the envy of the world. Charlie knows that when he

875
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: looks at what's happening in the UK, or France or

876
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: anywhere in a variety of other countries, he knows what

877
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: the situation is.

878
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: We're watching closely.

879
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: Charlie's that he Charlie Kirk, for anybody joining us at

880
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: this moment, has been gunned down in Utah. Happened about

881
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: ninety minutes ago, now, Orum, Utah, shot by.

882
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 2: A lone gunman.

883
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: It appears one shot rang out appeared to hit Charlie

884
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: in the side of the neck as he was sitting

885
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: taking questions. He crumpled to the ground. We have no

886
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: idea his condition, except that he was taken to the

887
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: local hospital. Utah Valley University there in arm Utah, classes

888
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: canceled untill further notice. The campus shut down as this

889
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: investigation rolls out. Eyewitnesses there said Charlie fell from his chair.

890
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: It's in the videos. If you care to watch him,

891
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: I would recommend you don't. An evacuation of the campus

892
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: was initiated. Everybody weighing in, from President Trump to jd Vance,

893
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: Senator Mike Lee.

894
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: It's a tough day. Here's jd Vance's post on social media.

895
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Speaker 1: Stay a prayer for Charlie Kirk, a genuinely good guy

896
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: and a young father. Joining me now is the director

897
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: of the FBI. Cash buttel Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

898
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: my mistake. We are closely monitoring reports. It's a tweet

899
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: my friends of the tragic shooting involving Charlie Kirk at

900
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: Utah Valley University. Our thoughts are with Charlie, his loved ones,

901
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: and everyone affected.

902
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: Agents will be on the scene.

903
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: Quickly and the FBI stands in full support of the

904
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: ongoing response and investigation. John, I can't help but wonder

905
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: how this plays in with this initiative started by Donald

906
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: Trump to lower violent crime in America and how this

907
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: might be used to galvanize people against violent crime across

908
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: this country, especially against political opponents. Sadly, regardless of the

909
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: outcome today, politics will here it's ugly head instead of

910
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: coming together like we did twenty five years ago on

911
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 1: nine to eleven. Sadly, I believe that it'll be social

912
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: media and the divisiveness that has come to define us

913
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: too much in twenty twenty five that we'll see too

914
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: much of. Probably there's probably too much of it already

915
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: on social media as I've seen.

916
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 7: Go ahead, John, Sure, this is going to be a

917
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 7: day We're going to have a long conversation in America

918
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 7: about the behavior even on the cable networks right now,

919
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 7: and the way they're dealing with this episode is I

920
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 7: think a sign that we are not ready to really

921
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 7: seriously address what happened today, and it's going to take

922
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 7: some moral leadership from the pulpit, from Congress, from the

923
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 7: pulpit of the White House to understand the gravity of

924
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 7: today and what we're learning and why where having these moments.

925
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 7: We shouldn't have to worry about a thirty one year

926
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 7: old man going out and having a conversation on a

927
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 7: college campus and think he's going to be gunned down.

928
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 7: We shouldn't think that some lawmakers on a baseball field

929
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 7: would have to worry about their safety when they're just

930
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 7: shagging ground balls. We shouldn't have to worry that people

931
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 7: go to a concert in Las Vegas to celebrate in

932
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 7: some gunman sets up in the window. We shouldn't have

933
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 7: to worry about young school children going to a Catholic

934
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 7: school or a Christian school in Minnesota or Nashville and

935
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 7: not coming home that night because someone with deranged political

936
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 7: views felt it okay to end their lives. And I

937
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 7: want to say something about a moment when this political

938
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 7: violence first started in twenty seventeen, and I'm staying in.

939
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: Touch with some people's I apologize them multitasking.

940
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 7: The FBI tried to hide the true motives of the

941
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 7: liberal active is shooter that shot the law enforcement.

942
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: It took that, we took.

943
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 7: It, and they tried to hide it as a cop

944
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 7: by suicide event when it was a liberal activist clearly

945
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 7: targeting Republicans who he hated, and it took us eight

946
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 7: years for the FBI to get us right with that information.

947
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 7: Only Cash Hotel recently got that information corrected for us.

948
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 7: It is a great disservice when the FBI hid from

949
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 7: us the true motive so that maybe society could start

950
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 7: evaluating what was going on, that maybe there was some

951
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 7: moment in history that we were upon, and when the

952
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 7: FBI hid the true intentions of that and so many

953
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 7: other intentions of attacks in recent years, they've done a

954
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 7: great disservice to this country. Under Chris Ray and under

955
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 7: James Comy and the others who tried to hide this

956
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 7: hide this growing scourge of political violence as a solution.

957
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 7: And for those people who did it, they should be

958
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 7: held accountable because they gave us a ten year delay

959
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 7: in being able to address But we're probably going to

960
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 7: have to dress tonight and tomorrow on the next day

961
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 7: in the most tragic of terms, so we are there

962
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 7: are people to be held accountable for hiding this stuff.

963
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 7: It wasn't just protecting the public. They actually harmed the

964
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 7: public interest when they didn't tell us the truth of

965
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 7: someone or someone's plural who were using political views to

966
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 7: motivate killing, and I think that's something we got to

967
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 7: come to record with. I think we're going to have

968
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 7: a very difficult few days ahead of us, and I'm

969
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 7: very worried about Charlie's wellbeing right now, and I'm very

970
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 7: worried about the well being of this country.

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00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: As I know many people watching today are John Solomon

972
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: summing it up as well as anybody.

973
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 5: John.

974
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time to spend some time

975
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: with us here. I know you've got some other work

976
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: to to tend to now, because I.

977
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: Think we're going to get some news pretty soon with us.

978
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're getting conflicting reports on the internet.

979
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: Again.

980
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: We're not going to tell you anything that we have

981
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 1: confirmation one saying that, and let's pray that it's true

982
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: that Charlie has been stabilized. We'll see what happens. John

983
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: Solomon is going to go run that down for us. Meanwhile,

984
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: Eric Bowling is here with me.

985
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 5: Eric.

986
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: Devastating news I got just moments before this program. It

987
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: happened at about one twenty local time in orem Utah.

988
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: The shooting at Utah Valley University a devastating hit. Anybody

989
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: that's seen the video knows it was a devastating hit.

990
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: But the hand of God can intervene and heal anyone.

991
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: We know the hand of God can play a role

992
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: because we saw what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania on the

993
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: thirteenth of July twenty twenty four. We know that miracles

994
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: can happen, and if it's in God's hands, we could

995
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: have a miracle.

996
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 2: And that's what we pray for here today. Eric, Nice

997
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: to see you, Yeah, Steve.

998
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 8: Tough to see on on on this breaking news event.

999
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: It's it's just horrendous.

1000
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 8: It's it's scary, and I think, boy John Solomon just

1001
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 8: kind of nailed it. Are we ready to heal? Are

1002
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 8: we ready to seem like we're ready to heal? It

1003
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 8: doesn't seem like we're ready to heal. And and these

1004
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 8: events just just keep on happening. It's horrendous. The crowd

1005
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 8: was just so engaged, they were so happy, they were

1006
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 8: in a t shirts, a beautiful day they're watching and

1007
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 8: just a just another horrific, horrific event happening. And you know,

1008
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 8: a conservative again at the target, obviously target of some

1009
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 8: sort of hate crime. Steve, it's just horrendous. We right

1010
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 8: to cover this whole thing the full hour, but go ahead.

1011
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 8: I I apologize, don't mean to cut you off.

1012
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 2: No, no, that's uh. Look, emotions are running high here.

1013
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 2: I got emotional earlier in the program.

1014
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: I can't help it because I think about people like

1015
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: you and I bowling. Are we safe? Are we just

1016
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: free game to these people on the left? Are we

1017
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: just targets? Can we be docks and attacked and shot?

1018
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: Let me tell the most heartbreaking thing that I've seen

1019
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: in the last few minutes. My twenty year old daughter, Yeah, yeah,

1020
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: send me a note and said, Dad, it's time to retire.

1021
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: Because she's a big Charlie Kirk fan. She's devastated, says dad,

1022
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 1: could you retire now? I'm like, I can't retire now, kid.

1023
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: I could never give up this fight at this point

1024
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: because I would never let.

1025
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: Him win it.

1026
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 8: So, Steve, I'm so glad you ended with that because

1027
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 8: there's a discussion. In fact, we have Laura Logan on

1028
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 8: in a little bit of discussion with her, and I said,

1029
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 8: is this to the point where conservits have to you know,

1030
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 8: change our habits? You know, do we need protection? And

1031
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 8: she said, you can't let him win. Eric, you can't

1032
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 8: let and she's right. You're right, they can't win. They

1033
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 8: can't win. I'm not suggesting we stand up there and

1034
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 8: taunt them, but we certainly shouldn't allow them to send

1035
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 8: for us because of these heenus, heenous acts, whether it's Charlotte,

1036
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 8: North Carolina or Utah Valley University. You know, a few

1037
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 8: days later, these people are after us. But you know what,

1038
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 8: we're stronger or bigger, and we will prevent all.

1039
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: Right, bowling hold on before before before we split. Here,

1040
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: Fox News reporting Michael Mallinson, a member of the Democrat

1041
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: Party Utah, looks to be a guy.

1042
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 2: Maybe