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Speaker 1: Advice shog Low. Welcome to the Naughty but My Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, rub shoot Out. It's Thursday, and I'm

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Speaker 1: a liar. I've been really sick for the last couple

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Speaker 1: of days, but the show went on. We still did

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Speaker 1: a show. I was a little bit more reserved, maybe

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Speaker 1: not as ridiculous as I normally am, but I feel

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Speaker 1: I couldn't be more excited that Mark Lupo, my friend,

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Speaker 1: is joining us. Mark. Are you there? Hello, rab Hello?

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Speaker 1: Did you listen to the other show's Mark? I was sick?

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Speaker 1: Could you hear it? I was so worried about you.

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Speaker 1: People noticed. I guess after the Naughties and ourselves have

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Speaker 1: been doing this now for about a year and a half.

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Speaker 1: We know each other's voices, and I felt a little

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Speaker 1: bit blue. But you know what I'm like, Mark, No

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Speaker 1: one's more stubborn than me. I don't give in. There's

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Speaker 1: never an option of not doing the show. I was

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Speaker 1: going to do the show. If you had to roll

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Speaker 1: me out on a gurney, I was gonna do the show.

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Speaker 1: I had visions of checking into hospital and taking my

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Speaker 1: I had an ear infection, but I feel much much better. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's jump in because we have tons and tons of

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Speaker 1: celebrity gossip and I'm in a mood today to catch

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Speaker 1: up lots and lots of talking. So what time is it,

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Speaker 1: my friends? It is big exclusive at the top of

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Speaker 1: the show. So Megan and Harry are negotiating a deal

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Speaker 1: for the first baby picture. So let me explain this.

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Speaker 1: Harry and Megan are negotiating when, where how to reveal

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Speaker 1: the photographs of their little baby daughter, Lily Bett. So

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Speaker 1: the couple no longer has a big social media presence,

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Speaker 1: In fact, they have non at all sources. There is

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Speaker 1: talk about providing official images of Lily to a favorite

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Speaker 1: charity and having them released the pictures, so that seems

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Speaker 1: to be the new thing to do. You take the pictures,

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Speaker 1: you approve the pictures, you control the pictures, and then

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Speaker 1: you give them to one of your favorite charities and

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Speaker 1: they put it out on their social media and then

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Speaker 1: they give a donation. So that's good. But also, to

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Speaker 1: let's be honest here, they've had a ton of offers

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Speaker 1: from everybody from Vogue to Vanity Fair. Now Vanity Fair

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Speaker 1: was the publication that first revealed little Suri Cruise those

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Speaker 1: years ago. Mark, nobody got to see Sure. We're like

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Speaker 1: where Sure? And then finally she popped up with mommy

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Speaker 1: and Daddy on the cover of Vanity Fair. This is

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Speaker 1: a media circus. We all want the first baby pictures.

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Speaker 1: Ten years ago, you could get ten, twelve, thirteen, fourteen

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Speaker 1: million dollars to sell your baby pictures. They're not going

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Speaker 1: to get that now. But what do you think, Mark,

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Speaker 1: they're getting office from Vanity Fair, from all the publications.

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Speaker 1: They could give a picture to a charity. They don't

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Speaker 1: have a social media account. Maybe this is the moment

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Speaker 1: to start one, because you'll get millions of followers click overnight.

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Speaker 1: What do you think they will do? Mark? We know, Rob.

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Speaker 1: I love that they're you're using this moment to help

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Speaker 1: a charity and they're donating the money for charity, and

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Speaker 1: that's really sweet. But I will say, for a couple

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Speaker 1: who apparently hates the press so much, they're busy negotiating

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Speaker 1: and brokering duels to kind of like pimp out their

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Speaker 1: But yes, I do want to see the baby's picture,

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Speaker 1: and I do want it to benefit charity, so I

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Speaker 1: hope they do pick the one that makes the most

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Speaker 1: sense and that's closest to their heart. Yes, yes, we

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Speaker 1: we've made a little cheeky here, and I do get

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Speaker 1: what you're saying, Mark, but this is one of the

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Speaker 1: even what three weeks old yet, so there is mass interests.

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Speaker 1: If you're a parent and you knew the world wanted

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Speaker 1: to see your baby, you don't want to give that

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Speaker 1: away to the photographers or the paparazzi on the street.

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Speaker 1: Eventually we're going to see this little girl. So often celebrities.

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Speaker 1: I've been involved in these negotiations when I was working

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Speaker 1: with stars and when I was an editor. It's wild. Mark.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been involved in one of these deals, Mark,

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely many. It's very great. It's like a bidding war.

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Speaker 1: It's a bidding more like when you buy a house,

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Speaker 1: put your bid in a sealed envelope. And it's like,

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Speaker 1: Magazine got the got the baby pictures. So for celebrities too,

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Speaker 1: it's not just where the baby appears or the money.

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Speaker 1: Obviously that's important, but also it's control. So I'm told

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Speaker 1: the Sussex is desperately want to control this. They want

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Speaker 1: and how it will appear, which brings us to our

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Speaker 1: pole question of the day, Harry and They're gonna are

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Speaker 1: negotiating a deal for their first baby pictures. Are you

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow to hear your result, Smart Clove, what are

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Speaker 1: you working on that? Yeah? So, our friend Nie Cohen

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Speaker 1: is opening up about how hosting the Keeping Up of

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Speaker 1: the Kardashians reunion has differed from hosting The Housewives for

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Speaker 1: Reunion m SO Rob So, And he is not an

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Speaker 1: editorial control, which the family did have, which is very

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Speaker 1: different than how it works for the Housewives because he's

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Speaker 1: It's his show, exactly so. And he also said that

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Speaker 1: as well, as he's used to started the reunions really

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Speaker 1: Kardashian genders wanted to start filming at noon. They's not

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Speaker 1: he starts those reunion through the Housewives. I think it's

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Speaker 1: there exactly. And I'm much like the Kardashians, like I'm

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Speaker 1: at noon, take my sweet time. Uh but so he said,

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Speaker 1: and he said I'm paraphrasing. He's like, you know, an

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Speaker 1: he's like, what's going on? Like he lost control at

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Speaker 1: so he said, he was not used to the dynamic

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Speaker 1: over the situation. You say, he told the sisters like

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Speaker 1: You know, he's on borrowed time. He's on their time. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you never when you interview people when they're not on

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Speaker 1: your payroll, which basically the housewives are. He pays their salaries,

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Speaker 1: He decides whenever or not they get a job. So

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Speaker 1: the boss when you're not the boss. We're rolling about, dude,

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Speaker 1: I bet he was really frustrating for him, although and

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Speaker 1: he's been in show business and TV for so long

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Speaker 1: he knows how to do this. There's nobody better. Also

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Speaker 1: to Andy said this was his his idea. Of course

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Speaker 1: it was. He approached them about doing a reunion. Guess

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Speaker 1: who he got to say yes? First? Guess which one

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Speaker 1: of the ladies. Guess who? I guess as a Chloe.

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Speaker 1: It is Chloe. He went to Chloe and he got Chloe,

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Speaker 1: and then he got Kim. I think once you get Kim,

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Speaker 1: Remember when Pierce and Morgan, Oh, I never get some

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Speaker 1: her through gayl. How do we get to you? Mark?

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Speaker 1: If I wanted to get to you, would it be

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Speaker 1: your brother Jonathan? Would it be your mama? Would it

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Speaker 1: be Doris? Who would it be? Well? I think now

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Speaker 1: We just have a loop of family special. Hey, happy

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Speaker 1: birthday to market. Was your birthday a couple of days ago?

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Speaker 1: Did you feel all the love from the noughties? They

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Speaker 1: Moving go along, we have another exclusive. So friends of

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Speaker 1: Kanye West tell me he's a little bit disappointed in

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Speaker 1: the media attention he's been getting with his new girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: So Kanye is a little bit disappointed that the world

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Speaker 1: So has he stopped me The following quote. Kanye literally

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Speaker 1: thought the news of him dating a game would be

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Speaker 1: front page news. He envisioned news channels breaking into their

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Speaker 1: coverage to announce Kanye was in a new relationship. He

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Speaker 1: expected Vogue, the fashion magazines, everybody to call him, begging

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Speaker 1: GiB for a cover story. It didn't happen. Instead, everybody's

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Speaker 1: talking about Jed at bed. What do you think, Mark?

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Speaker 1: You know it's so funny, Rob. I just saw pictures

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Speaker 1: of Kanye. There's a major heatwave happening in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: right now, and the paparazzi cart Kanye walking around in

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Speaker 1: the heatwave wearing a like a big ski mask, And

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, what does Irena, think of this?

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Speaker 1: What do they talk about? Is Bradley involved in this? Like?

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Speaker 1: What is going on here? What did they talk about?

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Speaker 1: Fred of his giggled to me, was it really just

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Speaker 1: IRENA's friends told me she's a very different person to Kim.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into the poles. Thank you, you're very unusual fans.

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