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Speaker 1: came in today all excited about the Masters, ready to

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Speaker 1: go early teen times, and I go, wait, those are

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Speaker 1: highlights of previous Masters. What happened? We got rain in

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Speaker 1: going to be teeing off early. Plus. Also understand this,

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Speaker 1: all this up before five o'clock East Coast time, and

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Speaker 1: normally they'd go to around seven seven thirty when you're

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Speaker 1: playing in April. Now, with the Masters playing in November,

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Speaker 1: to cram all this in. Then you get to the weekend.

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Speaker 1: You got college football in the NFL as well, and

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Speaker 1: poll question. Would you rather have the Masters pushed back

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Speaker 1: forth with the NFL. It doesn't matter to me. It

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Speaker 1: feels like we've moved everything around. So if you move

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Speaker 1: But what happens if you're moving an NFL game or

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Speaker 1: how Tiger plays Bryson to Shambo. So I'm however, they

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Speaker 1: and I heard this on Red Zone, they have the

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Speaker 1: I've got the list here of games that have been postponed.

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Speaker 1: Force Wyoming canceled, Alabama LSU postponed, A and M Tennessee postpone,

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty pounds. I was like, well, I guess

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Speaker 1: we'll play football. While playing football, Dan, I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I kind of understand. I was never the fastest, I

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Speaker 1: was never the strongest, but I was typically the smartest

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Speaker 1: on the football field. So I said, let me get

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Speaker 1: into breaking down games, breaking down tape, because it's not

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Speaker 1: what you know, it's what you can get the listener

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Speaker 1: and the fan to know. And I realized I'm decently

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Speaker 1: skilled at that. Well, that's why I moved into it.

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Speaker 1: What did Christian Okoya mean to Nigeria? Christian Okoya obviously

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Speaker 1: the great running back for the Kansas City Chiefs. Everyone

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Speaker 1: knows him as a Nigerian nightmare. Dan my first email

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Speaker 1: when I was a ninth grader in high school. It

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Speaker 1: was Nigerian Nightmare at Yahoo dot com. First email, my

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Speaker 1: very first one. So when you say what does Christian

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Speaker 1: Okoye mean to Nigerian Americans, to Nigerian football players, he's

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Speaker 1: the legacy and that legacy has since been tried to

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Speaker 1: be since been carried on. Think about the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: and three Nigerian players were drafted in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Obviously Jeff Okuda I remember him. I think Noah Egboghinei

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Speaker 1: another cornerback from Auburn, and there was one more player

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Speaker 1: who's slipping my mind. But think about what Christian o'koya

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Speaker 1: started and how that legacy has continued to be passed down.

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel also the former NFL linebacker and he's the co

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Speaker 1: host Marcellus Wiley with Speak for Yourself. But the book

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Speaker 1: is uncomfortable conversations with a black man. When did you

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Speaker 1: think about doing the book and why? Yeah, Dan, after

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Speaker 1: the racial tension going on in our world, I said

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Speaker 1: I have to do something to alleviate some of this.

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Speaker 1: I'm a sports analyst, sure, but before i'm that, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I'm a black man, and before I was even that,

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Speaker 1: the world, the world saw me as a black man.

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Speaker 1: I was a human being. It's my job to leave

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Speaker 1: the world better than and I found it. I said, Wait,

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Speaker 1: I was immersed in white culture, Dan, at this all

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Speaker 1: white private school growing up. Then I was immersed in

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Speaker 1: black culture in the NFL, and in college I realized

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Speaker 1: there's a color and culture issue. Dan, like black people

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Speaker 1: and white people, we communicate differently. And because we communicate differently,

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Speaker 1: let me try to act as a bridge to allow

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Speaker 1: my white brothers and sisters to understand some questions, answer

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Speaker 1: some questions that they may never ask because they don't

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Speaker 1: have black friends who ask them too, or a black group,

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Speaker 1: or feel comfortable. So I said, let me write this

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Speaker 1: book to help educate those that want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of the solution in America. What is the I guess,

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Speaker 1: top question that we should ask or you that you

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Speaker 1: want to answer? Such a great question, I think the

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Speaker 1: top question, which is such a volatile topic. People talk

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Speaker 1: about white privilege. Well, Emmanuel, I worked hard. How can

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Speaker 1: you say I'm privileged, Dan, Let me say this, I

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Speaker 1: currently have famous person privilege. I was walking down the

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Speaker 1: street in Beverly Hills, Dan, I walk into a restaurant.

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Speaker 1: They say, Emmanuel, I love your show your meal is

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Speaker 1: on me, then the meal was free, not because I'm black,

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Speaker 1: not because I'm six too, because they knew who I was.

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Speaker 1: So many people in America, I submit that privilege just

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Speaker 1: means you have certain access to a space or certain

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Speaker 1: immunity from a space because of who you are. So

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Speaker 1: when you talk about white privilege, it's understanding that in America,

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Speaker 1: I have certain immunity or certain access to certain spaces.

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Speaker 1: It's not saying your life hasn't been hard. It's saying

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Speaker 1: your skin color hasn't contributed to the difficulty in your life.

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Speaker 1: I think, Dan, there's so many visceral reactions based on

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Speaker 1: terms in our current society that really turned people off.

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Speaker 1: But until we open up our minds of understanding, open

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Speaker 1: up our hearts to understand, we won't really see the

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Speaker 1: unity that we need. And let me say this real quick.

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Speaker 1: I played in the locker room for the greater light

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Speaker 1: and the greater part of my life, and people say, well,

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel in the locker room. People look past race, Dan,

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Speaker 1: they look past religion because we're all fighting towards a

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Speaker 1: common goal. In America. The reason we have so many

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Speaker 1: divides is because we're not all fighting towards the common goal.

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Speaker 1: We don't all realize oppression exists. Racism may exist, systemic

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Speaker 1: racism exists. So Dan, if you're not fighting towards the

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Speaker 1: common goal, then you end up fighting each other. And

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Speaker 1: that is a difference between how in a locker room

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Speaker 1: you can overlook your differences, but in the world we

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Speaker 1: struggle to why is it that in the moment there

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Speaker 1: is this blowback or this anger or resentment with those

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Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali, Martin Luther King. I even look at Lebron

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Speaker 1: James and I shouldn't be just singling out African Americans.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who speak up on

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Speaker 1: this topic, but it feels like it's after the fact

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Speaker 1: we look back with reverence and admiration instead of in

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Speaker 1: the moment. You know, I don't know how we're going

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Speaker 1: to look back on Colin Kaepernick because in the moment

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Speaker 1: and even now, it's still volatile. I don't know fifteen, twenty, thirty,

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Speaker 1: forty years, I don't know how history treats him Ali.

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Speaker 1: They didn't treat him well. Martin Luther King was divisive

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Speaker 1: as well. Lebron James, you know, today is divisive to

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Speaker 1: a lot of polarizing to a lot of people. Why

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Speaker 1: isn't we don't see what's in front of us or

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Speaker 1: appreciate what's in front of us. There's twofold number one

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Speaker 1: day in the old quote, you never know what you

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Speaker 1: got until it's gone. But now let me dive a

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Speaker 1: little bit deeper. No one likes to get uncomfortable in

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Speaker 1: the moment. This is a sports show, so let's talk sports.

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Speaker 1: University of Texas, I had a strength coach called mad

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Speaker 1: Dog Madden. He wore a huge gold chain around his

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Speaker 1: neck and said, mad Dog, you're probably about six four,

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Speaker 1: three hundred plus pounds dan. Do you think I liked

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Speaker 1: my strength coach in college? Absolutely not. I didn't like

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Speaker 1: when he was yelling at me. I didn't like when

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Speaker 1: he was forcing me to do something I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to do. I didn't like when he was making me

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Speaker 1: wake up at six am to run gassers across the

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Speaker 1: football field and the hot Texas heat. Absolutely not. But

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Speaker 1: as I've gotten older, I've realized, wait a second, everything

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Speaker 1: he was doing for me at the time was for

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Speaker 1: my benefit. But more importantly, everything mad Dog, my strength coach,

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Speaker 1: was doing for me at the time was for the

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Speaker 1: greater good of the team. And I think the issue

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Speaker 1: at hand is when you talk about guys like doctor

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Speaker 1: Martin Luther King, Lebron James, Muhammad Ali, the likes. What

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Speaker 1: they're trying to do is for the greater good of

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Speaker 1: the team, the United States, our team which we're all

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Speaker 1: on together. Now. You might not agree with some of

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Speaker 1: their philosophies, You might not agree with some of their terms.

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Speaker 1: I might not have agreed with all of these sets

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Speaker 1: and repetitions my strength coach was making me do, but

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Speaker 1: the intention was pure behind it. And I think, really, Dan,

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Speaker 1: we just we don't like to get uncomfortable, and that's

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Speaker 1: why I wrote the book and that's why we're starting

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Speaker 1: to see some growth in our country. Is there part

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Speaker 1: of you that says, is my calling something above just

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Speaker 1: doing sports and breaking down? You know? Is Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: good enough to be the starting quarterback for the Eagles? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I so genuinely appreciate that question. Death, Dan, I've realized

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Speaker 1: there's a difference between your career and your calling. See,

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Speaker 1: your career is what you're paid for. Your calling is

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Speaker 1: what you're made for. And while my career has been

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Speaker 1: sports x's and os, Lebron James Carston Wentz versus Nick Foles?

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Speaker 1: Who was better? Who is greater? My calling has been

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Speaker 1: trying to bridge racial reconciliation in this world. My calling

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Speaker 1: has been trying to unite my black brothers and sisters

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Speaker 1: and my white brothers and sisters. I realized Dan, this,

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Speaker 1: I didn't play in the NFL to make a lot

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Speaker 1: of money or to tackle people. I didn't go to

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Speaker 1: this affluent, top college preparatory school in high school to

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Speaker 1: get a phenomenal education. I think, Dan, everything I've gone

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Speaker 1: through in my life has led me to this moment,

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Speaker 1: has led me to uncomfortable conversations with the black man,

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Speaker 1: has led me to this series, which over seventy million

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Speaker 1: people have now seen in five months. My calling, Dan,

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Speaker 1: is bigger than myself, and I'm just glad to be

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Speaker 1: a vessel to be used in the moment. The most

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Speaker 1: important question I'll ask you, and the most important question

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Speaker 1: you'll hear all day, is if it was you against

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Speaker 1: Marcellus Wiley and only one guy, one guy got out

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Speaker 1: of the octagon, who would it be. Well, first off,

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Speaker 1: it would be me, because Marcellus Wiley would tire out. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't work out anymore. He's a little soft around

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Speaker 1: the edges, if you know what I mean. And though

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Speaker 1: he went to Columbia, Dan, I would outsmart him because

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Speaker 1: I have two degrees, one being in sports psychology, so

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Speaker 1: I would do all his tactics against it. Don't let

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Speaker 1: him for you, Dan, he's got old guys strength though

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Speaker 1: he's come out. He has grown man strength. Kid, if

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Speaker 1: he got grown man strength. Good luck with the book

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Speaker 1: and also with the Fox Sports one with the Speak

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Speaker 1: for yourself, Thank you, and tell Marcellis we said hello,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Emmanuel, thank you my brother. All right, thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon

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Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and

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00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR

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Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Got a

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Speaker 1: lot of cancelations, a couple of postponements here. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure where we're headed, but UH here to help us

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Speaker 1: with our compass is Ross Dellinger. He's Sports Illustrated senior

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Speaker 1: writer covering college football. How did we get to this point? Ross?

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Speaker 1: That we have four games in the SEC that are postponed.

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Speaker 1: This weekend. Hey, sorry guys, my internet connection is a

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Speaker 1: little lost this morning. I thought, great, yea to my question. No,

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Speaker 1: you're going in and out a little bit on maybe,

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Speaker 1: but I think I caught a most of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how do we get to this point? Right, it's been

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Speaker 1: it's been a long few weeks and months and um

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Speaker 1: it's uh, it's been a roller coaster, right, and in

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Speaker 1: college sports in general, and everybody's kind of doing their

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Speaker 1: own thing or we're doing their own thing over the summer,

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Speaker 1: and then we kind of all came together lately to

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Speaker 1: play and now we're experiencing, you know, a second and

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Speaker 1: third wave of the virus. In the STEC specifically is

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Speaker 1: having one of those bad weeks that that we expected.

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Speaker 1: But we're talking about contract tracing. And this isn't about

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Speaker 1: COVID as much positive tests as it is just the

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Speaker 1: contact tracing. Is that correct with the SEC That's correct? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in most cases it's been about contact tracing at other

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Speaker 1: schools and other conferences as well. It's it's the biggest

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Speaker 1: turtle dan in completing a season in physicians new over

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Speaker 1: the summer, it would be it's not the positive cases,

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Speaker 1: but it's those higher risk contacts or those deemed to

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Speaker 1: be higher risk contacts, which all conferences are are going

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Speaker 1: by the CDC guidelines, which is a person within six

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Speaker 1: feet for fifteen minutes is a high risk contact. So

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Speaker 1: you can imagine if you have one positive in a

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Speaker 1: football building, you could have five, ten, fifteen high risk contacts.

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Speaker 1: And that's what we're seeing. We've got as roughly ten

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Speaker 1: positives of seven of the eight teams involved than a

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Speaker 1: postponent in the SEC, there's roughly a combined ten positives.

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Speaker 1: Nobody has more than four, I don't think, but it's

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Speaker 1: the high risk context around them that have been quarantined

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Speaker 1: for two weeks. And it's a big hurdle right now

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Speaker 1: in college sports is how to deal with this contact

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Speaker 1: tracing piece. Of course, we know the NFL you can

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Speaker 1: test out of quarantine after five days. Can't do that

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Speaker 1: in college. I've got Ryan Day, Ohio State's head coach,

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Speaker 1: on next hour. Could you see a scenario where Ohio

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Speaker 1: State doesn't qualify to play for the Big Ten title

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Speaker 1: game but qualifiers to play for the college football playoffs? Well,

635
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: I you know, I guess, so, yeah, conceivably you could.

636
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: I think they lost the games, so they can't lose.

637
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: I think it's two more. Right, you have to play

638
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: at least six, So I guess Ohio State could be

639
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: five and zero won't play in the in the Big

640
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: Ten title, but the CFP because you had that human element.

641
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: These are people making this is no BCS formula that

642
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: knowing it's Ohio State, knowing what they've done in the past,

643
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: seeing them through five games. Yeah, I guess I never

644
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: didn't really think about that, but I guess that's possible.

645
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: But also trying to come up with the rationale for

646
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff Committee. If I'm BYU or I'm

647
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: A and M and I'm on the outside looking in,

648
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: could I schedule a game? Could we is there awake?

649
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: I can add to my resume so I can be

650
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: a little bit brighter shinier to the playoff committee? Yeah,

651
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: you could. And we've we've seen that, right, It's been

652
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: maybe earlier in the season we've seen that, but we've

653
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: seen games scheduled a week out or two weeks out,

654
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: wild games are being played, games are being scheduled. We

655
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: haven't seen that, I guess in the last few weeks,

656
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: but we did see it earlier in the year. I

657
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: know there was some talk that, you know, could we

658
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: get a BYU Liberty game or something like that too,

659
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: undefeated group of five undefeated teams? Yeah, I mean by

660
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: you could scramble in play a game. I think they

661
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: have a look at their schedule recently. I think they

662
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: had still two off weeks left, so conceivably they could

663
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: schedule someone. The problem is is would it be someone worthwhile?

664
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: They're not probably going to get a power five in there,

665
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: so it had to be a like a you know,

666
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: an undefeated group of five like a Liberty or Cincinnati

667
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: Cinnati for that Yeah. For that matter, did the Big

668
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: Ten make a mistake earlier if a game got canceled

669
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: that you should be able to go out and schedule.

670
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: And the reason why I bring this up, Nebraska was

671
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: trying to do this a couple of weeks ago, and

672
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: I just source say that Ohio State in Michigan were

673
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: on Nebraska's side because they realized they could be put

674
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: in this situation. And here you have Ohio States game

675
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: against Maryland canceled. I think this season Dan is about flexibility.

676
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: And we were all with the SEC commissioner yesterday and

677
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: he has a sign. He said in his office and

678
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: be flexible this year in twenty twenty, it's it. You

679
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: have to be flexible, and the Big Ten has proven

680
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: not to be flexible, right they have They're trying to

681
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: play nine games in nine weeks. Um, that is obviously

682
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: offers no flexibility. Uh, they would not allow teams to

683
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, like Nebraska, you know, grab another game.

684
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: No flexibility there. H. So you're you're seeing that they're

685
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: they're doing the opposite of some other conferences. Uh, the

686
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: Big Twelve, the ACC, you've seen them be very flexible,

687
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: the SEC to an extent, uh not maybe not as flexible.

688
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: They had that one COVID kind of bye weekum and

689
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: they're playing a conference only so they haven't allowed that either.

690
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: But you've seen a lot of conferences be flexible, and

691
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: that's kind of the theme of this year. So I do.

692
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: I do think the Big Ten and even to an extent,

693
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: the SEC should be more flexible or should have been

694
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: more flexible, specifically with working in off weeks, more off

695
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: weeks into their schedules. Why no talk of an eight

696
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: team player off this year, given what we need is flexibility. Yeah, yeah,

697
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: that that was asked to the Commission as he's a commissioner.

698
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: Yesterday he brought up a good point. You know, you

699
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: add more games, they're tougher to complete. We're just trying

700
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: to get through the games that are currently scheduled. So

701
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: if you expand the playoff, it makes it more difficult,

702
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: he said, to complete the playoff, and I think he's

703
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: got a point. Look, we're on the path, and we've

704
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: been on the path to expanding the playoff. You know,

705
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: after the contratract runs out, I have no doubt the

706
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: playoff is going to be expanded. I really do. I mean,

707
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: we knew Dan when when they announced the playoff it

708
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: was four teams and there are five Power Five conferences.

709
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: We knew that was going to be an issue, and

710
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: it has. But ross nobody said, hey, let's just make

711
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: it like the BCS. It's one versus two. I mean,

712
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: if if we want to have the total safety precautions,

713
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: just have one versus two. Yeah, I mean you're talking

714
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: like this year. Yeah sure. I mean, if we're worried

715
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: about safety protocol, safety first, Yeah, that's that's true. I

716
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: mean flexibility, right, yeah, I mean just tweak it. Of course,

717
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, we have to always think about the money, right,

718
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what I was thinking about. I was

719
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: thinking about the money with eighteen playoff. That's why I

720
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: was mentioning that before I let you go. The PAC

721
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: twelve is irrelevant. How long does this? How long does

722
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: this stay with the PAC twelve, not only this year

723
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: but in subsequent seasons, Ross, I think I lost. Sorry, Dan,

724
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: My internet action went out again on me. All right, well,

725
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: thank you Ross. Well you won't be able to hear

726
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: me say thank you, Ross, but I'll still say thank you.

727
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: Ross Dellinger, Sports Illustrated senior writer covering college football. Thanks

728
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

729
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon

730
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,360
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731
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,000
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732
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,000
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733
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,960
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734
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,600
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735
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: let's bring in the Ohio State head coach Ryan Day

736
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: in his second full season. It's the Buckeyes head coach coach.

737
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. What game film are you looking

738
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: at today? Oh? We got in early and we started

739
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: on the Hoosiers, So just give us a few extra days.

740
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: I guess it's it's been crazy, it's been frustrating, but uh,

741
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 1: you know, we're just going to move forward and worry

742
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: about what we can control. And Indiana, when did you

743
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: hear the news that the game at Maryland was canceled? Yeah,

744
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: it was about fifteen minutes before our team meeting. We

745
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: always meet it two thirty, you know, for team meetings

746
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: each day, and about fifteen minutes before, you know, Gene

747
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: let me know, and so we really had the information

748
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: of the team and um, yeah, just a tough day

749
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: for our guys. If you could schedule a replacement game,

750
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: would you, Yeah, because I look back at Nebraska coach,

751
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: and I was told that there are other schools in

752
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: the Big Ten that said, hey, you know what, we

753
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: may be facing this scenario as well, that a game

754
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: would be canceled and you need to have that resume

755
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: bulked up a little bit. Were you in favor of

756
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: Nebraska being able to play somebody outside the Big Ten

757
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: if a game was canceled? Yeah, I was. You know,

758
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: actually I said that publicly, but especially when it's hard

759
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: to look at your team in the eye and tell

760
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: them they can't play when they've done everything you've asked

761
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: them to do. I guess you chalk it up to

762
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. I know it's not as easy as just saying, hey,

763
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: let's just go schedule a game. There's a lot of

764
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: implications and different things that have to go into play.

765
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: So I totally respect that, but certainly would be in

766
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: favor of trying to figure out a way to get

767
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: it done. But I also understand the complexity of it all. Yeah,

768
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: and I was wondering if you coaches had been able

769
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: to talk to the Big Ten about this, or can

770
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: you have a conversation now because you may run into

771
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: this another time before the Big Ten title a game. Yeah,

772
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: you know, we had a lot of conversations leading up

773
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: to the season, weekly meetings with the Big Ten coaches.

774
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean so many zoom calls. I don't even know

775
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: how many we had, but it was a lot. But

776
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: that once you get into the season, it's hard because

777
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: just all of your attention and time goes to winning

778
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: the next game, getting the guys ready for practice, So

779
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: it's hard to carve out time to have these type

780
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: of conversations. We could pretty much leave that up to

781
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: the ads and administrators. It just you your time gets

782
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: tough during during the week, you've got a good sense

783
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: of how good your team is. Not really no, I

784
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: mean I think we have a chance, but without having

785
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: spring ball, without having preseason, without the non conference games,

786
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot of snaps that our team didn't have,

787
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: and so we're trying to play catch up and get

788
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: going with these snaps, and so I don't know. I

789
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: think we have a chance. I think we have some talent,

790
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: but we need to play. We need to play games.

791
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: We need to make mistakes, we need to work through

792
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: those things and learn, and we're you know, the only

793
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: way to do it right now for us to play

794
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of is catch up, is to practice

795
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: better and practice against each other. Nothing take, you know,

796
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: replace his games. But we got to do everything we

797
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: can in our power to practice and make sure every

798
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: rep and practice is a game rep. But you know,

799
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: I think this game this week, looking forward to to

800
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: to Maryland, was an opportunity to take the next step.

801
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: We'll just have to keep working and and take that

802
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: next step against Indiana. What did you think of Tonga

803
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: by law? You know, I thought he was playing well

804
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: the last couple of games. I think, you know, they

805
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: did a great job of getting the ball out of

806
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: his hand quickly, especially in the last two games. I

807
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: think he's got some pretty talented receivers um and he

808
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: just kind of has a little bit of that in

809
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: factor and it was going to be, you know, we're

810
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: looking forward to playing them, but a lot of respect

811
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: for that family. They're Ye, there's something magical about those

812
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: He's Ryan Day, the Ohio State head coach. If a

813
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: scout called and said, tell me what Justin Field's best

814
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: trade is, what would you say? I think that's what

815
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: makes him special is there's there's several I think when

816
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: you look at him physically, he's he's big, he's strong,

817
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: and he's fast. He's got a strong arm. But he

818
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: has some some just in any accuracy that is special

819
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't you can't teach things like that.

820
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: He's just he sees it makes sense to him, Spaces

821
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: make sense to him. He can anticipate what his receivers

822
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: and defenders are doing, so accuracy is big. But they

823
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: also is very very intelligent, and he can, you know,

824
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: take a meeting to the field pretty quickly. So I

825
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: think all of those things combine is what makes him special.

826
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: I had a scout tell me it's hard to assess

827
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: Ohio State quarterbacks and not just Ohio State, but other programs,

828
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: because there's so much talent around them. Is that a

829
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: fair I don't know if you get this or you

830
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: will get this, I don't I watched Dwayne Haskins against

831
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: Michigan at home. Those receivers were wide. Oh. I mean

832
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: it felt like he could do whatever he wanted. I

833
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: didn't know how to assess how good he was or is,

834
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: and I think Justin Fields will probably go through that

835
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: as well. Can you see where scouts are gonna go?

836
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: How good is he? But how good is the team

837
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: around him? I mean, I think we have a lot

838
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: of talent, and I think that you know, we do

839
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: have good pieces around them. But that's um, that's why

840
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: the scouts get paid a lot of money. It's the

841
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: same thing we recruit bad quarterbacks in high school. They

842
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: come from a good program. You got to project the

843
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: best you can and try to figure that part of

844
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: it out. But um, but we do. You're right, we

845
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Speaker 1: have good players around and that certainly helps. What do

846
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: you look for though? Look? Is it tougher. Do you

847
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: think to see a quarterback playing in the NFL or

848
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Speaker 1: quarterback playing in college when you're when you're recruiting, Um,

849
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: you know, that's a great question. I think the high

850
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: school part is probably the hardest because we don't get

851
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: to spend as much time with them. Where in college,

852
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 1: you know, these guys come in, they work them out,

853
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: they really spend time with them, They get to know them.

854
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: They can really do anything they want with them physically,

855
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: you know, they can the scouts go and watch them

856
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: play in games. We we don't and especially now with

857
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: everything going on with covid UM, we don't get to

858
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: see these guys play live. And really we don't get

859
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: to work them out either. We're lucky if they come

860
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: to our camp and then we just try to do

861
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: the best we can to figure out who they are

862
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: as people and watch their film. So I think it's

863
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: a it's a lot easier to project them into the NFL. Now,

864
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: they still have to go play man. There's there's a

865
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: lot to goes with that, and that's not easy. So

866
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: it's not easy for either situation. But it's it's hard

867
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Speaker 1: in college because you just you don't really get to

868
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Speaker 1: go work people out, you don't get to evaluate them

869
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: in that manner, and so it's it's difficult your players

870
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: know that you played quarterback in college. Some of them do.

871
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Speaker 1: I don't think all of them. I don't think some

872
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: of them will exactly either, but but some of them

873
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: certainly do. What kind of quarterback were you at New Hampshire? UM?

874
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: Probably Chip would probably describe maybe as an overachiever, great athlete.

875
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: UM had to figure out ways to make it work

876
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: because it wasn't where. It wasn't as talent as some

877
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: of the other guys UM, which is makes sense probably

878
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: why I'm a coach, trying to figure out the angles

879
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: and then a way to try to find an advantage.

880
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: So but uh, you know, the first three years of

881
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: playing was was the first three years of Chip being

882
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: that the uh you know, a coordinator and kind of

883
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: on the no huddle and the spread was it was

884
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: kind of in its infancy, and so I was a

885
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: guinea pig. Some some days it worked, some days not

886
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: so good. So and I have some of the scars

887
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: to show, but but it was fun to be around it.

888
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: And the Chip you're talking about, of course, as Chip Kelly,

889
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: who was offensive coordinator there at New Hampshire. How often,

890
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: like on a daily basis, how often do you hear

891
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: about Michigan? A lot? I mean, it's just part of

892
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: our life, I think not, you know, kind of being

893
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: an isolation of your home and then being in the

894
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: woody here, it's a little different. You don't get to

895
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: see as many people anymore, you know, but like last year,

896
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: how how how often you're on the street, your grocery store,

897
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: wherever you are, You're often you're hearing about Michigan. Yeah,

898
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: that's all. That's every day. Every day. It's it's that

899
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: my son's bus stop, it's um my wife goes to

900
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: grocery store, or I mean, it's it's every day. I

901
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: love it, but I grew up with it, but I

902
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: don't have to hear it every day like you do.

903
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's it's the number one thing. I mean,

904
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: your number one job when you get here is to

905
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 1: be the team of the North. And then every comes

906
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: after that, and so yeah, the anxiety builds you get

907
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: closer to the game, for sure. Well, he got a

908
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: lot of time to figure out Indiana there, and thanks

909
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: for joining us, coach. We appreciate your time. Good luck

910
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Well, thanks thanks great being here.

911
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: That's a Ryan Day, Olhiam State head football coach. Thanks

912
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

913
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,239
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914
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

915
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,960
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916
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918
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919
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: of the La Times had an article about the white

920
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: sand trap set the Masters. They have forty four bunkers

921
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: at Augusta and for the last fifty years they've been

922
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: filling the sand with this white sand that they get

923
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: a four hour drive from Augusta up north in a

924
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: small town called Spruce Pine. And they find that they've

925
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: got this sand that they make that makes it look

926
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: like sugar bowls. So they used to get train cars,

927
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: thirteen train cars that haul coal. They would bring in

928
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: this white sand. But because they had coal in the

929
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: train cars, that would dull the white sand. And they

930
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: eventually brought in new train cars to bring the sand

931
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: into Augusta every year. And it's a special sand that

932
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: they make and only in this place. They actually ship

933
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: it to Dubai and as one of the people there say,

934
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: we actually are so good we sell sand to somebody

935
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: in the desert. But you know, it's the brightest sand

936
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Speaker 1: in the world. According to Tiger Woods. Yes, I was

937
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: reading about this sand. And it's processed so it's not round.

938
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 1: It's more like chips, and like a little bit of chips.

939
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: So the clubhead plays better off it, and the ball

940
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: plays better off it. And for some reason it has

941
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 1: less drag or something on the ball and the club

942
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: and to make it more natural feel. But can you

943
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: imagine like if like a d agent pulled over that

944
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: train ten thousand pounds of white sand on its way

945
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: to Augusta. It's going on here, guys for the masters. Yes, yeah,

946
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: I think it's wider than cocaine. But those bunkers stand

947
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: out that it's vibrant when when you're there and I'm

948
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: not in the bunk are very often in Augusta. But

949
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: for those who are like Tiger and some of the

950
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: other guys, you know, they tell me you can't get

951
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: spin on your ball out of there, But it is.

952
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: It is fluffy. It's a great lie in their sounds

953
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 1: like you get buried, you know, shots in the bunker,

954
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: buried lie. But I wasn't there very often. Why is

955
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: you not going in the bunker? Wow? Todd, that's a shot.

956
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: How to sneaks up to five minutes? Wow? You were

957
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: almost twelve minutes from a perfect show. Almost. It took

958
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: a shot, Yeah you did it. Took my swing. You

959
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,959
Speaker 1: took a shot, all right? Um so I mentioned what's

960
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 1: happening this day? Oh, this dame sports history. I didn't

961
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 1: have that. Todd had his snoreboard. But Paul, he's got some. Besides,

962
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: it's al Michael's birthday, which is fantastic birthday. In nineteen

963
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: sixty seven, Detroit Lions fumbled ten times in one game.

964
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Speaker 1: Ten times your Lions Dan. Nineteen fifty three, the NFL

965
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: policy of blacking out home games was upheld by a

966
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Speaker 1: federal judge in Philadelphia, a district judge in Philadephah, what's up, Holmes,

967
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: And people don't remember there was a time when if

968
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: your team didn't solid home games, you couldn't watch it locally. Yeah.

969
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: Nineteen thirty three in Philadelphia. Also, the first Sunday football

970
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: game was played. It was not allowed to play football

971
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Speaker 1: on Sunday before that, and then in eighteen ninety two,

972
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Speaker 1: Wiam Heffelfinger, his name was Pudge, became the first professional

973
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: football player. He was paid a five hundred dollar bonus

974
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 1: for helping out a team called Allegheny Athletic Association beat

975
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Athletic Club. So that sellout Hefflefinger, Pudge, I

976
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Speaker 1: like it. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast.

977
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979
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980
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981
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