WEBVTT - Total Conference Eclipse - College Football Podcast for 4/9

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal ull that for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm for it. I've heard so many players say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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<v Speaker 1>for Dake, Edith Steak is that woo woo?

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<v Speaker 2>And Don and Tie, welcome back to the Salibarbo Boys

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<v Speaker 2>and Girls. My name is ty Hilton Brandt, that fine

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<v Speaker 2>gentleman over there, the one, the only, always, the incomparable.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Rubinstein, sir, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>How was your weekend good. I think we had a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a miscommunication when we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, Tie, and I want to apologize upfront, just

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<v Speaker 1>because you're going to see the description of this episode

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<v Speaker 1>and it's going to make sense given world events. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm misprepared for this episode and I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to get out ahead of that, if that's okay

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<v Speaker 1>with you.

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<v Speaker 2>You misprepared, I misprepared.

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<v Speaker 1>I just looked up something and I think I just

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<v Speaker 1>realized that when you said you wanted to do an

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<v Speaker 1>Eclipse themed show, I did all my research on the

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<v Speaker 1>wrapper clips and apparently that has nothing to do that

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<v Speaker 1>is with the conversation we're going to have that is

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<v Speaker 1>slightly different. Dan, So all of the grind and research

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<v Speaker 1>I did is for not and that will have to

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<v Speaker 1>be a special Patreon Thursday episode when we deep dive

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<v Speaker 1>comparing college football conference strengths and potential up and comers

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<v Speaker 1>to the rapper Clips clips and for that I apologize. Okay, well, look,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's perfect now, as I really doffed it.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you like a brother here on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to do our best to power on through this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're recording this on Monday, April the eighth, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>big old clips going on. You've got about ninety three

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<v Speaker 2>percent coverage that you can see out in your parts

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<v Speaker 2>in the Midwest. I've got about a lowly ninety one

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<v Speaker 2>point two or three over here in eastern Pennsylvania. In

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<v Speaker 2>any case, we'll be done recording this episode in time

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<v Speaker 2>to witness the natural events outside the wonder that is

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<v Speaker 2>a solar clips that everyone's talking about today, and we

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<v Speaker 2>figured why not themale College Football Podcast episode around that,

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<v Speaker 2>because that is the goofiness that we put forth into

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<v Speaker 2>this here universe. So thank you for downloading, for listening,

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<v Speaker 2>for playing along at home. Of course, Forballers dot com

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<v Speaker 2>is where you can go to find our Patreon. Dan

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<v Speaker 2>just to remind the fine for ballers out there, what

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<v Speaker 2>is the one thing, the most important thing that they

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<v Speaker 2>can do to support what we are doing this soft season,

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<v Speaker 2>really the whole year throughout, but in particular this soft season.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that one thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, slowly shadow you, collect straight bits of your hair,

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<v Speaker 1>create a doll out of your Listen.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not doing the smell to you. We're not doing

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<v Speaker 2>the smell tize hair thing again.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>It took me a year and a half to get

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<v Speaker 2>past that. We're not doing it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Quick quick second apology. Clips is a duo of rappers

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<v Speaker 1>which I think I said it was a singular rapper

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<v Speaker 1>of my apology to push a t specifically, subscribe to

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Subscribe to the show, follow the show. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>For us.

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<v Speaker 2>It only helps us here in the off season in

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<v Speaker 2>more ways than we could ever put in two words. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so listen, go back and listen to old episodes that

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<v Speaker 2>we've been doing over the last couple of weeks, we

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<v Speaker 2>had the Grievances bracket, we had Michael Felder on last week.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been putting out some fun stuff here that I

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<v Speaker 2>think you and I are both quite proud of being.

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<v Speaker 2>So the eclipse is in a couple hours from now.

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<v Speaker 2>We are looking at conferences, Dan, We are looking at conferences.

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<v Speaker 2>We are looking at the stars of particular conferences. We

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<v Speaker 2>are looking at which teams, if any, could block those

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<v Speaker 2>teams out and what it means to the conference scape

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<v Speaker 2>as a whole if that situation occurs.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yes, that is correct. I assume you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to You don't have a lot of thoughts on NC

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<v Speaker 1>State's spring game from this past weekend, particularly the Cam

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<v Speaker 1>Coleman emergence at Auburn, along with I guess the introduction

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<v Speaker 1>of DJ Diurkin. Hooray Auburn, what a cool decision you made.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, Grace McCall was pretty good in

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<v Speaker 1>the spring game, my guy man, as far as what

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<v Speaker 1>I could gather, he and Noah Rodgers, well Hollywood Smothers

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<v Speaker 1>transfer from Oklahoma action. Yeah, we had NC State Clemson,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Vezina perhaps pushing cade club nick club level get

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<v Speaker 1>a little full?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we do some sort of like club level versus

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<v Speaker 2>the mezzanina or that's not bad tie.

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<v Speaker 1>He struggled in years past, but this is a nice

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<v Speaker 1>little connection.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a nice little bit of connective tissue, the

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<v Speaker 2>zina mezzanina.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. That's real tough, but it really scratches

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<v Speaker 1>me where I hitch tie. Yeah. So I think those

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<v Speaker 1>were early spring games, and hopefully if you're a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of one of those schools you saw encouraging things.

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<v Speaker 2>We will do spring game recaps. We'll do it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll do a lot more on that, I promise you.

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<v Speaker 2>But this was just low hanging fruit today. We can't,

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<v Speaker 2>especially on this show if you've been listening to this

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<v Speaker 2>show for any amount of time. Yeah, we do not

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<v Speaker 2>miss opportunities like this that are tied up by mother Nature.

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<v Speaker 1>We celebrate we have a what an on staff unofficial

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<v Speaker 1>meteorologists during the season, Tim, So we celebrate all things

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<v Speaker 1>events that have to do with the solar system and

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<v Speaker 1>or weather, and we are we are pro everything eclipse.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think the gist of it is, as

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<v Speaker 1>we begin this, we are going to talk about where

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<v Speaker 1>the big shine and energy comes from. In each conference,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically the major conferences. But I think we can take

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<v Speaker 1>a look otherwise as well, and then where the obvious

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<v Speaker 1>candidates are to block out that light, that winning light,

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<v Speaker 1>and then perhaps the emerging the emerging moons. Earth has

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<v Speaker 1>but one moon, but it's a powerful moon, as we

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<v Speaker 1>know helped. Maybe we'll find more tides, maybe we'll find more.

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<v Speaker 1>You block out the block out one, maybe we'll maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we'll find out more. So let's start. Let's let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about like the Big ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk Big ten. So the Big Ten, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know who we want to single out here as as

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<v Speaker 2>the star. I mean, Ohio State is the obvious one,

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<v Speaker 2>given how they have loaded up, but we need to

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<v Speaker 2>keep in mind that the conference is expanding. Oregon is

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<v Speaker 2>coming in from the west, as are of course Washington

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<v Speaker 2>and UCLA and USC. But I think when we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the Big ten, at least when we have here

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<v Speaker 2>in the off season, the two kind of I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>warring factions, let's say it's not Ohio State and Michigan,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Ohio State and Oregon. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, first of all, we should be clear, we

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<v Speaker 1>should put some respect on Michigan's name because they were

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<v Speaker 1>the moon they were the black hole that'swollowed up the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know my space that well. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Is it a supernova? A nova when a

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<v Speaker 1>star explode, that's right. So I don't know if we

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<v Speaker 1>saw a Michigan supernova that fully blew up Ohio State

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<v Speaker 1>these past couple of years, because Michigan ends up winning

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<v Speaker 1>the national championship. So I don't know. When you have

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<v Speaker 1>a team that is a defending national champion, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they deserve sun consideration here. Uh, even if you were

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<v Speaker 1>looking at Michigan moving forward with a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger question mark without Jim Harbaugh and given what Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>loses on that roster on both sides, I understand where

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<v Speaker 1>you're coming from that Ohio State if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the past dozen years or so, the clear son of

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<v Speaker 1>the Big ten. But I think we just saw a

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan eclipse. That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's fair. Michigan just loses a lot. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot coming back, is a lot coming back, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're losing, losing JJ McCarthy and Blake, losing your coach.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just a lot. It's a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>try and replace that, and especially with a new guy

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<v Speaker 2>new slash old guy in charge and shrowan more like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have faith that Michigan is gonna be fine. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's like the bottom is going to fall out,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's it's fair in this instance, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know more about this world than I do. We

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<v Speaker 1>could have our guy John on right from the the

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<v Speaker 1>what's the name of the observatory, man, the Keck Observatory,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. There are universes, there are solar systems out

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<v Speaker 1>there with multiple suns. I assume a binary system like

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<v Speaker 1>bright stars, binary system. Yeah, right, So what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>for the Big Ten right now is it's a binary system.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know how you consider one school to

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<v Speaker 1>be the obvious star when another school literally three months

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<v Speaker 1>ago won the national championship. So I would split that

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<v Speaker 1>sun down the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>In this instance, if we are blocking out the shine

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<v Speaker 2>of Ohio State and Oregon.

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<v Speaker 1>Or Hio State Michigan to me, but yes, continue.

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<v Speaker 2>Or Ohio State Michigan. Yeah, if we are walking out

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<v Speaker 2>that shine, who is doing it? What does the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the conference look like right behind those teams? Because

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<v Speaker 2>this is what we're going to find when the solar

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<v Speaker 2>clips happens. There are studies that take place. Listen to

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<v Speaker 2>the soundscape of the nature. As sudden onset darkness appears

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<v Speaker 2>in the natural habitat, you start hitting crickets, you start.

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<v Speaker 1>See driving the back half of us. He's twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Sudden onset darkness continue.

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<v Speaker 2>See things start to happen in nature that only typically

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<v Speaker 2>happen at night. So the landscape changes once the natural

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<v Speaker 2>lighte from the sun suddenly goes away.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're talking about a vacuum. The obvious conversation at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, because of recruiting, because of recent success, is

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<v Speaker 1>Penn State that Penn State would help fill that gravitational

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<v Speaker 1>void Moon has. Moon has something to do with gravity, right,

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<v Speaker 1>keeps the earth? Honest, dude, did you not did you

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<v Speaker 1>not have science? I do have science, tie, but most

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<v Speaker 1>of the Pythagorean theorem, most of the genus, phylum species,

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<v Speaker 1>most of like I do. Remember that mitochondria is the

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<v Speaker 1>powerhouse of the cell I th most of that has

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<v Speaker 1>been replaced by dough fermentation. I think the moon has

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<v Speaker 1>something to do with gravity. Yeah, he's the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>are honest, who.

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<v Speaker 2>Lived next to the ocean and is probably familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>the tides.

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<v Speaker 1>The tides yes, which is a nice little tie into

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<v Speaker 1>college football. Talking about the tide. Yes, the moon and

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<v Speaker 1>its gravitational pull on Earth keep the tides regular, high

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<v Speaker 1>and low tides and oceans, and I think somewhat in lakes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not as pronounced. What I'm going to say

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<v Speaker 1>is Penn State fills that void rather easily when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at on field success and recruiting. But I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to give you a dark horse because certainly we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the highs of Lincoln Riley's offense, we have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what to expect from UCLA. Washington is at least interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't have a I think at this moment

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<v Speaker 1>of Washington and carrying over success, I think washingt would

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<v Speaker 1>be an interesting candidate because I think Jetfish will be

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<v Speaker 1>able to recruit. It's a great home environment, and given

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<v Speaker 1>recent success, Washington has to be in that conversation. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you an interesting one though. I'm very curious about

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<v Speaker 1>the eclipse capabilities of the spartans of Michigan State Aiden Chiles,

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<v Speaker 1>whether short term AID and Chiles. I just think Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Smith is a really good coach. I think you can

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<v Speaker 1>find line talent in the Midwest. Jonathan Smith has done

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<v Speaker 1>a very nice job hiring in his short time. His

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<v Speaker 1>own pedigree as a Chris Peterson guy is very impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>You like to see that. And there is something about

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<v Speaker 1>and I know, I don't think matt Ishbia is around

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of NIL anymore after he bought the Suns,

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<v Speaker 1>so they don't have that specific benefactor that would help

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<v Speaker 1>on the NIL front, at least whatever short medium term.

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<v Speaker 1>But if the money's there at Michigan State, I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's other big money guys there, and the transfer destination

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<v Speaker 1>element with Jonathan Smith is there. And I really like

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<v Speaker 1>the hires that Jonathan Smith brought to East Lansing. In

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<v Speaker 1>this moment, I'm not telling you I'm high on Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>State this year. But if you're telling me who could

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<v Speaker 1>be that gravitational fly in the solar ointment tie, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I can be swayed. I can be pulled,

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<v Speaker 1>not unlike how the moon pulls the tides. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>can be pulled in the direction of Michigan State as

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting dark horse moon here.

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<v Speaker 2>What about the Iowahawkeyes. It almost talking about like longer term. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about shorter term. I'm talking about right away

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty four, if there's a situation where the

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<v Speaker 2>obvious shine of Ohio State, in Oregon and Michigan is

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<v Speaker 2>blotted out for whatever reason, I don't know, don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what Mother Nature has in store for us this Big

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<v Speaker 2>ten season. But over Penn State, well, they don't play

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<v Speaker 2>Penn State first off.

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<v Speaker 1>No, But I'm saying just in general, like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think i was in a better position to fill that

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<v Speaker 1>void than Penn State?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not. But if we're talking about dark horses, the

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<v Speaker 2>reason I bring up Iowa was because i was actually

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<v Speaker 2>got a fairmount back. They lose a fairmount but they've

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<v Speaker 2>got a fairmount back on offense in particular. Now, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of scuttle butt here in the off season about

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<v Speaker 2>what's Iowa's offense going to look like? They hire a

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<v Speaker 2>guy it was like similarster. Yeah, not necessarily the sexiest

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<v Speaker 2>hire in the world. It was somebody with whom Kirk

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<v Speaker 2>ference was familiar. So I don't have any grand aspirations

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<v Speaker 2>for this offense this season, going above and beyond. But

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<v Speaker 2>they did have an injury to Kate McNamara last year,

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<v Speaker 2>which certainly set the offense back. So you want about

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<v Speaker 2>the way that Kirk Ferns has called offense over his

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<v Speaker 2>time in Iowa, specifically the last ten years or so, Right,

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<v Speaker 2>But it hurts when you're starting quarterback goes down. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a ton of death behind him, and so

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<v Speaker 2>they get him back. They're up there in the nation.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have the number in front of me. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're thirtieth nationally in terms of returning production. They're

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<v Speaker 2>inside the top fifteen returning production on offense. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot back that they can work with. I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>grand aspirations again for what that's going to look like,

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<v Speaker 2>but I am curious to see if a change in

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<v Speaker 2>leadership on the offensive side of the ball can give

0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.040
<v Speaker 2>them a little bit more pop. We have come to

0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.840
<v Speaker 2>know that defense needs to tie. It can't be any worse.

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<v Speaker 2>We've said that is healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if Kate McNamara is healthy, the offensive line takes

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<v Speaker 1>another step forward and they're successful enough developing skill talent.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's promising guys at running back from last

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<v Speaker 1>year back like there's something there that should say, especially

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<v Speaker 1>remove Ohio State from the schedule. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you have the schedule in front.

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<v Speaker 2>Have in front of you, so and this is why

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting. Okay, listen to the teams in this schedule

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<v Speaker 2>and tell me how many of these, on the surface

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like are our losses?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa State, Iowa State, it's got a lot back, so

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be a tough game, rivalry game, who knows, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's in Kinnick Stadium. Troy Trojans and Jared Parker at

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota bye week before Ohio State first week of October.

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<v Speaker 2>That will have big equal we'll remove that from the

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<v Speaker 2>stead out in this eclipse conversation. Yeah, Washington down Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Pennix at home in Iowa City, at Michigan State, Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>State kind of rebuilding now home against Northwestern, home against

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<v Speaker 2>Wisconsin on the road, at UCLA on the road at Maryland.

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<v Speaker 2>They close out the season at home against Nebraska. How

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<v Speaker 2>many of those teams scare you two?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not many, not many, like you know, on the

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<v Speaker 1>road at Minnesota on I mean coming off of what

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<v Speaker 1>a twelve ten loss to Minnesota on the road. Michigan State.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what Michigan State looks like in mid October.

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<v Speaker 1>Ucla starting overs on the road at Maryland's kind of scary.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what they look like at quarterback this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, that is if you're talking about eleven games,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nine or ten wins. If they take an acceptable

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<v Speaker 1>step forward, it's got to be a par on offense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to be acceptable on offense.

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<v Speaker 2>But the defense has been one of the main stays

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<v Speaker 2>really throughout college football for the last decade. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the offense is always kind of a struggle, bus the

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<v Speaker 2>defenses has certainly served up its part and kept Iowa

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<v Speaker 2>very relevant.

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<v Speaker 1>And they now plenty of time. They have plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>time to look up how to signal or not signal

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<v Speaker 1>what on punt returns correct, so they can work on

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<v Speaker 1>that all off season long.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think we have gone so far down this

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<v Speaker 2>rabbit hole with Iowa and the offense, and the jokes

0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.040
<v Speaker 2>are funny and it seems like they're limitless and we

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I think the jokes are continue. I

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<v Speaker 1>love them. Okay, I'm not going to be a joke

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<v Speaker 1>goalie here, ty, so I'm gonna pull back.

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<v Speaker 2>I speak for myself on this one. I am pro

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<v Speaker 2>every Iowa offense Okay, but that but that being said,

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<v Speaker 2>if you do pull back and if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>what the landscape looks like around them here, Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>schedule is going to continue to get harder in the

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<v Speaker 2>years to come, and I think that's when the rubber

0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:27.560
<v Speaker 2>is going to beat the road. But here in the

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<v Speaker 2>short term, given some of the uncertainty around the conference

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<v Speaker 2>and some of the turnover that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Going on around them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you blought out Ohio State, It's like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>is still Iowa with its defense and they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take some of these teams to the wire.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, Iowa has beaten Ohio State not terribly long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So even if Ohio State were on the schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we move on and talk about a different conference here,

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<v Speaker 2>do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have like a dark so as Iowa your dark horse

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<v Speaker 1>or is that like your legit moon for the big ten?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I probably we will put Iowa more in

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<v Speaker 2>the dark horse category, just because it feels to me

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<v Speaker 2>like they've been written off by a lot of folks,

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<v Speaker 2>if only because of that offense. Okay, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>really don't know what that's going to look like this year.

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<v Speaker 2>We can make assumptions, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think it's disrespectful. We didn't include Wisconsin in this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was going to ask you about Wisconsin. I

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<v Speaker 2>was actually gonna ask about Michigan if we could talk

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more about them. Okay, but the Wisconsin

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<v Speaker 2>thing is interesting. We have talked about the Badgers before.

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<v Speaker 2>We both have a ton of respect for Luke Fickle.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem that I have with Wisconsin, specifically with respect

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<v Speaker 2>to the twenty twenty four season is the schedule is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of brutal. Yeah, to assume that they're a dark

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<v Speaker 2>horse in this landscape with all of this AMMO and

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<v Speaker 2>the schedule, to me is a bit of a stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair. I think I'm thinking about this

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<v Speaker 1>more big picture, long term that like, could Wisconsin ascend

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<v Speaker 1>in the universe in which you know, Ohio State, Oregon, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever you want to say, Like, are you a believer

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<v Speaker 1>enough in Luke fickle roster building continuity coach Hires to say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Wisconsin could build something that could even with

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<v Speaker 1>those schools existing as they do right now that they're

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<v Speaker 1>all those places are in very positive places more so

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<v Speaker 1>than Wisconsin. Arguably that Wisconsin could ascend to a point

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<v Speaker 1>where you're just like, there's so much of a pain

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<v Speaker 1>in the ass. They look like where they were in

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<v Speaker 1>like the late twenty teens. That they're fielding a top

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<v Speaker 1>five defense, which is not out of the question with

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<v Speaker 1>Luke Fickle and recruit to a very specific vision offense,

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<v Speaker 1>and are just such a pain that they're winning ten

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<v Speaker 1>games even in a loaded big ten. I'm asking you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm asking you, like, what your belief like. I need

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<v Speaker 1>to see what they what they look like at quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>post TVD. Yeah, because I'm not there right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, I mean, there's almost two ways to look

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<v Speaker 2>at this right. Part of it is longer term, the

0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:58.800
<v Speaker 2>other part is in the short term and bigger picture. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a lot of respect Luke Fickle on what

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<v Speaker 2>he brings to the table and how his how his

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.800
<v Speaker 2>track record can inform us as for what's what's to

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<v Speaker 2>come for Wisconsin. I think all that's very exciting. I

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<v Speaker 2>almost can't get past this season though, and the TVD

0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.000
<v Speaker 2>experiment to me is supremely interesting. You know, it's on

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<v Speaker 2>my It's on my top twenty five list of most

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<v Speaker 2>interesting off season slash early season storylines that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to follow. What does TVD look like in this system?

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<v Speaker 2>Because we know, we know the highs of TVD can

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<v Speaker 2>be pretty good, We've also seen the lows and those

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<v Speaker 2>have been a little bit more dramatic.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like a shady horse to me. Not quite a

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<v Speaker 1>dark horse, sha, not quite an obvious horse. They're a

0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:44.960
<v Speaker 1>dusky horse. Dusky horse. Yeah. They like you have to

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<v Speaker 1>you have to believe a little bit more than what

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<v Speaker 1>you can see with your eyes in this moment because

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<v Speaker 1>of where the offense or where we think the offense

0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:57.479
<v Speaker 1>could have sent to. But right now, with the injuries

0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:00.359
<v Speaker 1>at quarterback they had last year, with the way they

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<v Speaker 1>use certain guys on offense, Like I just you have

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<v Speaker 1>to believe more than you can see right now. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a believer, But right now I think I give Jonathan

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Smith and Michigan State a slightly more intriguing edge longer

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<v Speaker 1>term because of his history with quarterbacks and talent and coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm slightly there. I want to move to

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<v Speaker 1>a different conference, please please.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk real quick about Michigan though, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>just a quick thirty second hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Please.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing with Michigan is this, you cannot go three

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<v Speaker 2>weeks three weeks at a pop with this schedule without

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<v Speaker 2>running into a.

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<v Speaker 1>Buzzsaw of some sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Open the year Fresno State, Texas games at home, but

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<v Speaker 2>Texas and Arkansas State first grouping of three, next grouping

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<v Speaker 2>of three after that home against USC home against Minnesota

0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:58.119
<v Speaker 2>on the road at Husky Stadium. That might be the

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<v Speaker 2>easiest stretch of three weeks. Okay, I hear you. After

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<v Speaker 2>a bye week at Illinois home against Michigan State rivalry

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.920
<v Speaker 2>home against Oregon, that won't be easy. Tough close out

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:16.440
<v Speaker 2>the year at Indiana New Look Indiana Kurt Signetti home

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<v Speaker 2>against Northwestern on the road at Ohio State. There aren't

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of breaks here for a new coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard for me to see a situation in which they

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<v Speaker 2>are the star of the conference this year. It could happen,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's hard for me to see.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a great That was That was an all

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<v Speaker 1>time hedge by the way from you that I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a fine moment of hedge. I don't see him, hedge. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't hedge. I don't see it. You said it

0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:43.879
<v Speaker 1>could happen, but I don't see it. So your bases

0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:46.479
<v Speaker 1>are covered. My bases are covered. I don't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't see Michigan against this schedule, with

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<v Speaker 2>everything that just left going on, the kind of run

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<v Speaker 2>light they've had the last three years with the new coach,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't see it. Prove me wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the scene, what's the line in Breaking Bad where

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<v Speaker 1>Skyler is like, they're coming after you, They're doing all this.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't you scared of this? Aren't you scared of that?

0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:08.360
<v Speaker 1>And he says I'm the one who knocks right. And

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<v Speaker 1>the counterpoint is Michigan just comfortably beat the team who

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<v Speaker 1>beat Texas in the playoff, and now they get Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Now these are all different rosters, these are all you know,

0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:26.040
<v Speaker 1>every season has its own different context. But if Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>plays to what we already know is Sean Moore's very

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 1>specific vision for this team, it's it's carrying over from

0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:33.880
<v Speaker 1>the Harby. I don't think you're gonna see a lot

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:36.960
<v Speaker 1>different on offense. And there's enough back on defense. You know,

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you look at the secondary, you look at the defensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just enough pieces who played significantly for a championship

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<v Speaker 1>team that I don't know, I think you should be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more scared if you're playing Michigan than

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<v Speaker 1>if you're looking at Michigan's schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying they're a pushover Dan there is, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying I'm not expecting an undefeated season.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what, I think they can still go ten

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and two against the Stanley Can's what I'm saying, Like, Uh,

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 1>there is something about what's the fun phrase.

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<v Speaker 2>Like championship DNA.

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, that there is something in ann Arbor that should

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 1>scare the bejesus out of every team on their schedule. Right,

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Michigan is squarely living rent free in Ohio State's head Right.

0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State's out there spending four hundred million dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the roster intact and bring in new guys

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 1>on the roster as is their right. As is great

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 1>to see if you're an Ohio State fan that your

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:36.359
<v Speaker 1>team is doing everything they can. But they're doing it

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:39.159
<v Speaker 1>because they've been pushed around a lot recently by this

0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Michigan program, different players, different offensive linemen, different guys in

0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:46.199
<v Speaker 1>the secondary. That there has been something about inside this

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Michigan program that has them better prepared to win that

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.360
<v Speaker 1>game every year. Where's the Texas game? Texas games at home,

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Texas games at home. It's in ann Arbor. That's pretty nice. Yeah,

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:58.120
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty nice. Where's the Oregon game? Oregon games at home?

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>ORG games at home? Where'shio State game?

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State game is in the shoe?

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Have they recently won in the shoe? As luck would

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:05.439
<v Speaker 1>have it, they have?

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:10.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So all I'm saying right now, and you know

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 1>you're there, chief hedging officer, so I understand where you're

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>coming from. But I think the counterpoint is pretty strong

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:22.439
<v Speaker 1>for Michigan in this moment, that like they are more

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>feared than we should be scared of what's on their schedule.

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>That's all.

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Michigan blotted out Ohio State the own version of the eclipse,

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.360
<v Speaker 2>and now now we're almost talking about it in reverse

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:39.160
<v Speaker 2>a little bit because they have owned Ohio State.

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean that that kind of goes with they're saying,

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, different elements, different ways.

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not as high on Michigan this year.

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't see how anybody. I don't know officially where

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:50.919
<v Speaker 1>I stand.

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have not done the full preseason deep dive

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 2>and all that. I'm not as high on Michigan this

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Speaker 2>year as it was last year. I don't see how

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.719
<v Speaker 2>anybody could be I think. I think if you are

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:01.880
<v Speaker 2>as high on Michigan this year as you were last year,

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 2>you are you are living in an alternate reality.

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 1>You're a Michigan fan.

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 2>You're a Michigan fan, many of whom have commented on

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 2>our videos and emailed in about how disrespectful I was

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 2>towards Michigan. Keep it coming.

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't care.

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I can't get as high about Michigan as I was

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 2>last season, but they're still going to be very good.

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Let's leave it at that. Yeah, where do you want

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:21.679
<v Speaker 2>to go next? Which conference? Uh?

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 1>You want to go to the Mountain West?

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Oh great?

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Laid on me fastball, screwball, curveball. Who's the star in

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>the Mountain West? Who is that bright shining orb in

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the Mountain West in this moment? Or

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:37.680
<v Speaker 1>does one exist?

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:42.880
<v Speaker 2>My default answers are always either Boise State or Fresno State.

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 1>What about Oregon State twenty twenty six? That was mean?

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, that was mean. Yeah, those are always my

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 2>default answers. Is there a better answer for the Mountain

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:58.640
<v Speaker 2>West than Boise, Boise or Fresnoe.

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:02.919
<v Speaker 1>Boise Fresno, San Diego State Air Force. I don't think

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>there's an obvious star here, but is there a team?

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Is there a team on this obviously Wyomi makes a

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>coaching change. U and LV is interesting to me. Yeah,

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Barry Otam is long for Vegas

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>washed Jada Mayava lost a Mayava to USC proximity to recruiting.

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Vegas has become more and more of a sports town

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>with the addition of what the NHL team, an NFL team,

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and at some point a Sacramento team moving from MLV

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>MLB's Oakland A's to Sacramento as to the Vegas A's allegedly.

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. There's something about UNLV. I don't know

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 1>what they have behind the scenes in terms of NIL

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:45.360
<v Speaker 1>if like Guy Fieri is going to be a big

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>booster as Barry Otum ramps it up. You and V

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 1>is interesting to me as a moon to like what

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>they made the conference championship game last year. Weren't great

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>in it. No but Boise with a new full time

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>head coach. San Diego State new head coach. There's a

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>lot that's pretty open, Like Tedford seems to be near

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the end of his tenure at Fresno. I don't think

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.919
<v Speaker 1>you can count them out. I think UNLV is the

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>obvious Sun here to blot out the energy of the

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>recent powers in the Mountain West. First, as long as

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Barry Odein is there.

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 2>First off, continuing science lesson for you, please, it is

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 2>the moon that blots out the Sun and not the

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 2>s You said that they were the obvious sun.

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>That was going to excuse me they were, Well, they

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:31.919
<v Speaker 1>could ascend to obvious sun, but right now they're the

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>obvious moon to blot out the sun. Correct.

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I think I think I tend to favor Fresno by

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 2>a nose if we're talking about sort of the star

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:47.239
<v Speaker 2>of the conference, and if you look at it just

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 2>in terms of who's coming back.

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Jay Cane Ray walking through that door, Ti.

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Jay Cane Ray walked through that door. But they've got

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot back on offense. Yeah, and they are almost

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 2>they're almost kind of a I don't know, a one

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 2>to eighty as compared to Boise State, which has a

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>lot coming back onto you a new coach, new situation, but

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot coming back on the defensive side of the ball.

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:11.959
<v Speaker 2>So in that sense, it'll be interesting to watch how

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 2>the Mountain West season plays out, where you've got offense

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>on one side, maybe defense on the other. If those

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 2>are the two teams that we end up talking the

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 2>most about, UNLV is interesting to me, I tend to agree,

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 2>and that was sort of where I went first when Yeah,

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 2>when you mentioned you know who is interesting because it

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 2>does feel like that program has seen a bit of

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 2>a jolt lately. I'm interested in Colorado State. Colorado State

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 2>isn't all that good, but they're another team that has

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 2>a fair amount back on both sides of the ball.

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I still like Jane Norvel a lot as their coach.

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to be a slow build to

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of get them back to respectability. So it's probably

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 2>a bridge too far at this point to assume that

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 2>they're going to be the team that like finds.

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Some way to blot out the stars.

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 2>But I kind of have one eye on Colorado State

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 2>just to see, if not them rising to that level,

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 2>just to see how that program grows under Jane Orvell.

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, Okay, let's go to America's conference, and that

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>would be the only conference that features the eucalyptus trees

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>of Palo Alto and the palm trees of Coral Gables.

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 2>The All American Conference, Yeah yeah, acc.

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>ACC America's conference. Who is the star of the ACC

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>The bright shining star right now is Florida State. Because

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to give benefits of that. I'm not

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>going to sweat what they lose. I'm still going to

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>doubt that they can accomplish big things with DJU, but

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>based solely on recent growth, recent ascension, the way that

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>they played at their best last year, the last couple

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 1>of years, what Mike has done in the portal, what

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 1>he's done on the recruiting trail, somewhat to the disappointment

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>of Florida State diehards, but also like still a good job.

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I think the energy is with Florida State. I think

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>the momentum is with Florida State. And as much as

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>you want to call it, what was it a a

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>buy something binary solar system with two bright shining suns.

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I think you can say that in terms of brand

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 1>recognition and you know, ten twelve years of results, But

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>right now I would say that if you were to

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>anonymously ask every head coach in the conference, they're most

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>gunning for Florida State and not a Florida State Clemson answer.

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Clemson Clemson, though, is I mean you're doing a little

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 2>bit of disrespect to Clemson by not throwing the Clemson

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Tigers out there, am I I think so?

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean I understand why you put Florida State.

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I do tend to look at this a little bit

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 2>through a little bit more through the lens of returning production,

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 2>and Florida State gets absolutely crushed totally. Now, talent acquisition

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 2>has not been a problem for Mike Norvel. He's actually

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 2>proven quite good at it. But there's just there's so

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>much leaving that I'm not going to say we're going

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 2>to see another like Orange Bowl situation at Florida State.

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I think they'll be fine. I think obviously you know

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 2>they're going to win their fair share of games this year.

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 2>But I have a hard time not giving Clemson the nod,

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 2>knowing what Florida State is going to have to backfill

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 2>and what Clemson has coming back.

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>But what is it about Clemson that you feel like

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>there is just a tonage of radiation emanating from this

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 1>program in the way that there is from our solar system.

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Son, I think there's enough continuity on offense that I

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 2>feel good about. On the Clemson side, I.

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Mean, what is the continuity that you feel good about?

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>You like film, Afa, I do? Hey, club Nick I do? Okay,

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't. They don't have receivers. Maybe Matt Luke will

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>improve this offensive line, but the defense should be real good.

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 2>I've come full circle on Clemson.

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what does their schedule look like this year?

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Georgia first week of the year. It's good, the ACC

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 2>non ACC outside of that app State, NC State, Stanford

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 2>at Florida State at Wake, Virginia home against Louisville at

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Virginia Tech at pitt the Citadel in South Carolina.

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know, man, I'm gonna have to see

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>something from like this roster outside of clear NFL players

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>on defense to get me excited about like ten to

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>eleven win possibility.

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 2>We could sit here and argue until we're blue in

0:33:55.880 --> 0:34:00.040
<v Speaker 2>the face over which teams are the alpha essentially in

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.719
<v Speaker 2>the ACC. Who are the teams? Who are the proverbial

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 2>moons that could blot out the powers because there were

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 2>There's a Louisville conversation to be had, h I think

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 2>there might be more on the sleeper side and NC

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 2>State discussion to be had. We both seem to be

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 2>abnormally high on Kiren drones of Virginia Tech this year. Yeah,

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 2>who want to talk about sleepers? I mean, you've been

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 2>singing the praises of the Stanford Cardinal here ever since

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 2>they joined the ACC.

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>You did it again.

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so maybe they're you're sleeper. I don't want to

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:39.760
<v Speaker 2>speak for you, little smu Action. Yeah, a little Preston Stone.

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Why not?

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're thinking next rung down teams, that

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.760
<v Speaker 2>could take some of the shine off of those top dogs.

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 1>M h is it Louisville?

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Is that the next obvious one? I don't know.

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to see where they go at quarterback

0:34:56.920 --> 0:35:00.040
<v Speaker 1>long term. I don't I'm not there yet with Louisville.

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that might have been a really nice year one,

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a sort of fortunate year one, given the schedule. I

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 1>might be inclined to ride with Brent Key and Georgia

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Tech Here for this answer, Oh, I guess I'm not

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>saying that they are going to be they are going

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>to become the son of the ACC. I'm saying just

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>in terms of blot out potential that, like, I'm not

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>going to sing the praises of like an Atlanta recruiting base.

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not the same situation, like it's a difficult school

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 1>to get into. There's too many schools around there that

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>recruit Georgia and Atlanta Metro so well. But there is

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>something about a team that plays with the fire that

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Georgia Tech has played with recently that they're going to

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.320
<v Speaker 1>win some twenty seven to twenty fours that they shouldn't.

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 1>They're going to finish strong. I like year one of

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Haines King, little sloppy with the ball, but playmaker in

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>ways that I didn't anticipate that In terms of the

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>true spirit of a moon blotter, a moon that is

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>blotting by the way, I cannot wait to get a

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 1>number of emails that have the subject quick quick science

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>note about the moon. Need a little primer for Dan

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Rubens quick science correction eighteen. Dan mentioned the tides. So

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<v Speaker 1>there is the spirit of a school occupying a place

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>to blot out the lights of others. I think Georgia

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>could be like the spoiler maker, that kind of school

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>within the ACC moving forward that like, yeah, they only

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:39.320
<v Speaker 1>won eight games, but man, they are getting a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of people's way Georgia, Georgia Tech. Excuse me, yeah, yeah, no.

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 2>I we have commented before on the pain in the

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 2>acidness of Georgia Tech. That's a specific science term that

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I used. They play hard for bran Key, they did

0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 2>it ever since he was the interim Sure and Haines King.

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 2>I think is is a super interesting prospect. You know,

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 2>we got to.

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:13.879
<v Speaker 1>See not an NFL prospect college football this season kind

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>of situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. They are extremely plucky and as a team

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 2>that could serve as that thorn, maybe more of a

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 2>temporary eclipse. Sure, I could see it longer term. Longer term,

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:38.320
<v Speaker 2>I think the the arc here still favors Florida State Clemson,

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 2>but in the short term and no Miami.

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>In this conversation, I don't.

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Know what to expect from Miami, Dan, I don't know

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 2>what to expect from Miami.

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I expect growth, I do. I expect growth, but to

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>what end?

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, We've expected growth each of the last two years,

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like in both instances, maybe there has

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 2>been a little bit of growth, but it has far underwhelmed.

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 2>And so I don't I don't want to get too

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:09.479
<v Speaker 2>high on the Kinges this year. I think longer term.

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Mario is very good at assembly talent, sure, and the question,

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:15.320
<v Speaker 2>the obvious question is can he translate that into wins?

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 2>And we just you know, we didn't see it. We

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 2>saw loss in the bowl game to Rutgers last year. Whatever,

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 2>who cares about it?

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>So, in a universe in which Florida State and Clemson

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>are sucked into that black hole, who do you think

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 1>has the strength to stabilize the a sec at the

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:31.839
<v Speaker 1>top if it's not Miami As what I'm getting from

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 1>your words is this. Does this become an NC State conference?

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Does this become a Brent Privee Virginia Tech Conference?

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Now I'd be incline to Louisville.

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>You think Louisville would would have that shine.

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I'd be incline to Louisville in that situation. Yeah, if

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 2>we're not talking Florida State, if we're not talking Clemson,

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 2>A healthy nil backing, Yeah, healthy nil backing. It's it's

0:38:54.960 --> 0:39:00.399
<v Speaker 2>a program that is willing to invest in the football team.

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 2>They've got a good coach who last season alone proved

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 2>that he can assemble the pieces pretty quickly and turn

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 2>into good year. I think I think I would be

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.240
<v Speaker 2>inclined to go team Jeff Brahm for this guy right here.

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do that. I don't think I have that

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 1>in me. Put my vote down, one vote for Dan

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:23.240
<v Speaker 1>and the for Animal at Syracuse occupying that's.

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Not that's let's go down the SEC then, all right,

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 2>SEC the obvious ones.

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Georgia. Yeah, we agree that it was the obvious Sun. Especially.

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, it was obviously a two moon, a

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 1>two sun system with Nick Saban present in Tuscaloosa. But

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 1>with the absence of Nick Saban, it'd be impossible to say,

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you know this, this college football conference universe revolves around Tuscaloosa. No,

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:48.760
<v Speaker 1>it's Georgia who's.

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Going to block out that son of that Kirby Smart son,

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:56.719
<v Speaker 2>that Red Sun who's blocking that out? Uh?

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>In terms of what they've proven at their school all

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 1>around right now, I'd lean LSU, the LSU ceiling, the

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Brian Kelly winning the West in year one ceiling where

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 1>recruiting is. I would think that's the school that can

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>build a roster consistently and build the energy consistently to

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 1>not just blot out but have the chance to usurp Georgia.

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 1>That's the closest to me in this moment without saying

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 1>what Kaylin Debora Alabama fully looks like, without seeing how

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Texas and Oklahoma adjust, knowing what the current what we

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 1>perceive the ceiling for a school like Ole miss to

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 1>be or Tennessee to be, I think LSU kind of

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 1>stands alone as the obvious answer, what do you think?

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, we need to bear in mind that the SEC

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 2>is bigger now right much the way the Big Ten,

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 2>and we included Oregon, Ohio State, even Michigan into the conversation.

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean Texas now comes in from the west. Texas

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 2>was a playoff team a year ago for sure, so

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 2>maybe doing a bit of disrespect to the Longhorns not

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:19.799
<v Speaker 2>considering them as they're a Big twelve playoff teams as

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 2>one of the suns here, but yeah, they were coming

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:24.879
<v Speaker 2>from a different conference. We don't know how they'll fare

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>against an SEC schedule, so I think it's probably premature to.

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 1>To put them up there.

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Texas to me seems like the obvious one

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:36.760
<v Speaker 2>given where that program's at. You know, Sark is trying

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 2>to build it in a very saban esque kind of way,

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 2>and clearly they all are. They all are, but Sark's

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 2>got the first hand experience. Yeah, as does Kirby Smart. Right,

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 2>that's one thing that they have in common. So that's

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 2>why I think I go there next. If I'm thinking

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 2>in terms of all right, who's sort of like the

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:56.800
<v Speaker 2>next team up? You know, if there's there going to

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.280
<v Speaker 2>be anybody that takes off the shine from Georgia, who

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:01.400
<v Speaker 2>is that team if not Alabama?

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 1>And you would put Texas ahead of LSU in this moment,

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I would. Yeah, Oh man, I totally disagree.

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I think I would because they have gotten very, very

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:13.880
<v Speaker 2>physical on the defensive side of the ball. That's been

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 2>a big deal and that I think above all else.

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 2>We've talked a lot about the talent they've got an

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:21.399
<v Speaker 2>offense and quinn Ewers and arch Manning and whoever else,

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.919
<v Speaker 2>but truly defensively, that is where they have made some

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 2>serious strides. That's what enabled them to kind of take

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 2>that next step forward. And that's not to say that

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Elise you won't get there. They've certainly got a boatload

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:36.879
<v Speaker 2>of talent. But ls you didn't play any defense last year.

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:39.879
<v Speaker 2>If it was a matter of offense, then it would

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 2>have been a different conversation. But you got to play

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 2>both sides of the ball if you want to win

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:45.840
<v Speaker 2>in the SEC. And Texas did that. Texas did that

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.360
<v Speaker 2>last year. Well, different schedule, I get it.

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, even with you get lit up a

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit by Josh Hoover, I don't know if we

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:56.360
<v Speaker 1>can fully make that claim. You know, previously on Texas football,

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>it was Michael Pennox destroying Okay, this team.

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:01.759
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's all fair. Did they or did they not

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 2>get better on defense last year?

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>They definitely did. That's why my answer is Texas, okay.

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I just think LSU is always going to be closer

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 1>to improving things for whatever reason. I think, what so,

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Texas has Arch Manning as quarterback of the future and

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:19.879
<v Speaker 1>LSU has the twenty twenty five number one quarterback Bryce

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Underworlrice Underwood committed. So they're both in what we think

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 1>terrific shape moving forward at quarterback. Like there's a ton

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 1>of promise on offense. Both tools should be able to

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:34.279
<v Speaker 1>recruit a ton of defense. I don't know. I think

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>there's just still going to be an adjustment period for

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Texas in moving to a new conference, whereas I think

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 1>LSU is better fitted in the short term better fit better,

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, better equipped in the short term to

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 1>be that Moon. Otherwise, Look, you can there have been

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 1>moments of Tennessee. There have been moments, you know, a

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 1>few years ago now of Florida. Like it's a little

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 1>bit difficult to say ole Miss because previously on ole

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 1>Miss Georgia fifty two for Georgia's for ole Miss, Like,

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 1>gotta believe it a little bit more. Ole Miss certainly

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 1>fits that like dark Horse Moon Like, they're definitely improving.

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 1>The roster has definitely gotten better since the end of

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:14.359
<v Speaker 1>last season, but there's a thirty five point gap right

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 1>now that I just am a little bit concerned about.

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 1>So my my interesting answer is actually Oklahoma more so

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 1>than Texas for like the next tier down after LSU

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 1>why I want defense, And Oklahoma has been recruiting the

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:35.240
<v Speaker 1>hell out of defense, just stacking dudes in the recruiting

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the last couple recruiting classes.

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Defense got better last year, it did.

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Both sides of the ball got better last year.

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 2>After after all of the ted Roof jokes from twenty two.

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma has taken steps in the right direction, not as

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:55.879
<v Speaker 1>dramatically as Sark and Texas if Jack snartled works out,

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 1>if like the line of succession at quarterback. To me,

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the big question you know in the term is probably

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 1>offensive line for Oklahoma and figuring out playmakers on offense.

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Which offensive line not an issue for Texas, but they

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 1>are replacing some playmakers at Texas. But there is that

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:14.320
<v Speaker 1>combination that tantalizing like Oklahoma could get to a scary

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:17.280
<v Speaker 1>good place on defense in the next year. I think,

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 1>depending on how these guys work out, obviously, but I

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:23.759
<v Speaker 1>think the general roster level on defense is getting to

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 1>a really interesting place. And you gotta protect Jackson Arnold.

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 1>You gotta find guys to step into those roles, absolutely,

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and they've recruited, They've they've brought in some good receivers.

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:37.240
<v Speaker 1>But Oklahoma to me, because of the Venables factor, because

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 1>of how I think he's going to stack players on defense,

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that to me is what I have my eye on.

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:44.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about Texas.

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:49.799
<v Speaker 1>A and M uh interesting, but like we haven't seen

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 1>any of ELC. We we have though not at A

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 1>and M, not as the A and M head coach.

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I think this is a guy throughout

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 2>his career who when he's running a defense. He's getting

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 2>the most out of that talent. He was much sought after.

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 2>That's why A and M paid him a boatload to

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 2>come and leave Notre Dame and go down to College Station.

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:14.239
<v Speaker 2>He was good as a defensive coordinator. He was very,

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:17.400
<v Speaker 2>very impactful in a short time at Duke, got the

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:19.839
<v Speaker 2>most out of that roster, totally was able to build

0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:22.719
<v Speaker 2>a good defense out of that roster and didn't have

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:24.880
<v Speaker 2>like a third of the talent that he's going to

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 2>have at Texas A and M. Now, we can't necessarily

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 2>project forward that all of that stuff, all of that

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 2>pixie dust, is going to come with him now to

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:35.920
<v Speaker 2>College Station as the head coach. But it stands to reason,

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 2>at least in the short term, there is a fair

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 2>amount back on that rod. There's a lot leaving, but

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of returning production that is still in

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 2>place in College Station, be it from the roster that

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:48.839
<v Speaker 2>was there before or some of the guys that have

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 2>decided to transferred A and M. So I don't think

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:56.320
<v Speaker 2>this is like a complete rebuild type situation.

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:01.919
<v Speaker 1>No, But like this is a classic A conversation. Oh yeah,

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>how does Texas A and M get to that place?

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Are they on their way to that place. I see

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>them getting to that place where, for whatever reasons, they

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 1>never do. And so at least for a stretch of time.

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:19.880
<v Speaker 1>And so Texas A and M is almost in its

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:25.360
<v Speaker 1>own category of sure. But okay, that's the issue with

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Texas A and M. That they occupied that very specific

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 1>space of sure. Potential's there. But no matter who they hire,

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>no matter who the quarterback is, no matter what the

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 1>identity is, things go wrong for three and a half

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 1>weeks plus every year.

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Who is the star of the Big Twelve?

0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 1>It's a great question. I actually like went back and

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:49.360
<v Speaker 1>forth on this a lot. I think the only true

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 1>answer to this question is Oklahoma State.

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Fourth nationally in returning production, but first or second in

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 2>the Big Twelve behind Iowa State. So they're up there,

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:02.880
<v Speaker 2>top team in terms of returning production, fifteenth on offense,

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:08.880
<v Speaker 2>fourteenth on defense. I am probably not the best person

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 2>to talk about Oklahoma State.

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:14.399
<v Speaker 1>No, just remove yourself from your view last year and

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 1>if you evaluate where Oklahoma State more often than not

0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:23.280
<v Speaker 1>is with Mike Gundy, who's by far the most tenured

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:26.439
<v Speaker 1>Big Twelve coach. Obviously, Kyle Whittingham has been at Utah

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. He has not coached a Big

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:31.720
<v Speaker 1>twelve game yet, So within that conference, he has the tenure,

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:34.239
<v Speaker 1>he has the level of success, and even if you

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>work to compare him against somebody like Chris Climbing in

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Kansas State, like Oklahoma State recently has played very favorably

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:42.600
<v Speaker 1>against Kansas State over the past five six years.

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Why would you not go Utah though?

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Why would you not say Utah?

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Because Utah has been steady eddy sure under Kyle Whittingham.

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Now they get Cam Rising back. We don't know what

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 2>he's going to look like. I don't think we can

0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 2>assume it's just going to be the Cam Rising from

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 2>three years ago. At this point, right he had a

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:06.719
<v Speaker 2>serious set of injuries he was dealing with. But generally

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Utah plays defense and they do enough offensively to beat

0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 2>your brains in.

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Look, their program might be in a healthier place right

0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:17.880
<v Speaker 1>now than Oklahoma State, but I think we still have

0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:20.439
<v Speaker 1>to put some respect on Mike Gundy in this program's name,

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Like there was nothing expected of last year they make

0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 1>it to the conference championship game. I think there's a

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 1>certain amount of like Gundhy and the Cowboys have proven

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.719
<v Speaker 1>it against this collection of teams well more often than

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 1>not this collection of teams, whereas Utah is in a

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:43.319
<v Speaker 1>terrific place as a program with Kyle Whittingham. Like they're

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:45.919
<v Speaker 1>down a quarterback, they're down two quarterbacks last year. They're

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:48.200
<v Speaker 1>still going to USC and winning. Right, They're still doing

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of great things. I think they beat ASU

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:54.239
<v Speaker 1>fifty five to three in November, like with not much

0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 1>healthy on that roster. And so Utah has a great program.

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Utah has a great coach. But in terms of the

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 1>sun this conference revolves around I don't know, you gotta

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 1>play a game in this conference before I fully label

0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:12.239
<v Speaker 1>you that title. Again. I might be higher on Utah

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 1>than any other team in this conference in the short term,

0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 1>but we still got to put some respect on respect

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:18.719
<v Speaker 1>and stillwater.

0:50:18.920 --> 0:50:22.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The interesting thing about Oklahoma State, if you look

0:50:22.800 --> 0:50:27.319
<v Speaker 2>at the schedule, it's pretty much front loaded. Okay, it's

0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:30.200
<v Speaker 2>front loaded in that they've got Utah and case State

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 2>on back to back weeks at the end of September.

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:38.480
<v Speaker 2>After that, though, Dan West Virginia at home, than a

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:43.360
<v Speaker 2>bye at BYU at Baylor home against Arizona State on

0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 2>the road at TCU home against Texas Tech on the road,

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:50.759
<v Speaker 2>at Colorado. Of the teams that at least right now

0:50:50.800 --> 0:50:53.680
<v Speaker 2>are doing this early April are projected to be ranked,

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 2>there's only two and they're back to back weeks. It's Utah,

0:50:56.680 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 2>it's Kansas State again to close out the month of September.

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 2>This is a favorable schedule. It's a favorable schedule and

0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:04.879
<v Speaker 2>for extendent that's got a lot back that's pretty good.

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 1>It's a potentially tricky November, right if we have a

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:10.719
<v Speaker 1>good Jayden Rashad, if we have an improved TCU on

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the road, that's gonna be difficult. Texas Tech will see

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:15.879
<v Speaker 1>how feisty they are. But they ran the ball really

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:17.920
<v Speaker 1>well at the end of last year. Colorado on the

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:20.880
<v Speaker 1>road at altitude, we'll see should or should be protected

0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:23.200
<v Speaker 1>better than he was this year. I think that's a

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:25.919
<v Speaker 1>tricky November. But the other this is to your point,

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:27.400
<v Speaker 1>there's no Bedlam on the schedule.

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 2>There's no Bedlin. No, there's no Bedlin. And if we

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:35.439
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about true eclipse situations, yeah, I don't

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:38.160
<v Speaker 2>know if this is a lunar eclipse set up, but

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:41.600
<v Speaker 2>it very much has been Oklahoma getting in the way

0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:45.680
<v Speaker 2>of Oklahoma State over Mike Gundy's tenure. There have been moments,

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:48.600
<v Speaker 2>of course, but yeah, by and large, Oklahoma has ruled

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 2>that roost.

0:51:49.400 --> 0:51:51.520
<v Speaker 1>So would would you say Utah is then the if

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to put words in your mouth, the obvious

0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:56.320
<v Speaker 1>eclipse candidate as they come in, if we're going to

0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:59.440
<v Speaker 1>agree that at least Oklahoma State in this conference, of

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:03.439
<v Speaker 1>the teams that have played in this conference, I think,

0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 1>is it a Kansas State eclipse? Is it a TCU

0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:09.799
<v Speaker 1>bounce back eclipse? Is an upcoming ASU eclipse? Is it

0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:12.840
<v Speaker 1>watch out for Gus Melson and Florida tallon out east eclipse?

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the thing. When you don't have that super

0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:19.400
<v Speaker 1>obvious sun, then you've got a lot of moons floating around,

0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of moons.

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm I'm most interested in Kansas and Kansas State.

0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Kansas absolutely include the Jayhawks.

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:32.879
<v Speaker 2>Are Kansas and Kansas State? I say Kansas State because

0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I think Chris Clemb's got the track record. You just

0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:37.439
<v Speaker 2>sort of know that he's going to put a good

0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:38.080
<v Speaker 2>team out there.

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 1>And but not against Gundy.

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Not against Gundy. Yeah, and Kansas is interesting. You know,

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.920
<v Speaker 2>the defense needs to improve if we're going to seriously

0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:50.600
<v Speaker 2>consider them as part of this conversation, like definitely at

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the top rung of the conference at all, but they've

0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 2>certainly got enough offense in the short term to make

0:52:57.080 --> 0:52:58.759
<v Speaker 2>life hell for some of these other teams that are

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:01.400
<v Speaker 2>in the conference. I was looking at Kansas's schedule earlier,

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:05.960
<v Speaker 2>and I mean the first month and a half of

0:53:06.000 --> 0:53:09.279
<v Speaker 2>the season. They've got a team on their schedule called

0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:13.120
<v Speaker 2>the linden Wood Lions, which is a real team. Great

0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Illinois that Illinois UNLV West Virginia, TCU, Arizona State. That's

0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:21.239
<v Speaker 2>the first month and a half of the season. After

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 2>that it gets a little trickier. Houston on the road

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:29.760
<v Speaker 2>at case date for the Sunflower game, Iowa State at UYU,

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Colorado at Baylor. Extremely workable schedule for Kansas.

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Good thing about this concept, by the way, is the

0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:41.640
<v Speaker 1>process of mooning is also like thumbing your nose at

0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the powers that be. I would say right now, just

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the ceilings, and I think this conference

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:52.480
<v Speaker 1>has five to six moons.

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:55.720
<v Speaker 2>This this is for my money.

0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:57.879
<v Speaker 1>You can talk me into a whole bunch of nine

0:53:57.880 --> 0:53:59.080
<v Speaker 1>and three squads.

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:02.160
<v Speaker 2>For my money. I'm gonna make a statement here. Yeah,

0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:05.840
<v Speaker 2>this is the most interesting conference in America in twenty

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty Saller football. Football. Oh okay, yeah, well I know

0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:12.640
<v Speaker 2>about basketball. I just don't about basket.

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 1>They felt they're like playing at Rucker Park or whatever.

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't care about from a football standpoint, this

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:21.080
<v Speaker 2>is the most interesting conference in America, okay. And at

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:23.920
<v Speaker 2>this point, Look, we've evolved to the point now where

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:28.640
<v Speaker 2>all of the conferences that are still in existence have expanded, right,

0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 2>every single one of them, whether it's the ACC, the

0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Big Ten, the SEC, the Big Twelve, They've all the

0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:36.120
<v Speaker 2>power conferences have expanded at this point, so to some

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:39.759
<v Speaker 2>extent that you know, like we're looking at newcomers and

0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:42.239
<v Speaker 2>what they bring to the conference. But I think by

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:45.400
<v Speaker 2>virtue of some of the subtractions in the Big Twelve,

0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:48.759
<v Speaker 2>with Texas and Oklahoma leaving, there's a huge void now,

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:51.000
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, And to your point, there are

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:54.839
<v Speaker 2>a thousand moons, a thousand other teams in there that

0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I think we could talk ourselves into, whether it's k

0:54:57.200 --> 0:55:00.799
<v Speaker 2>State or Kansas or even in Arizona, you know, with

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:01.840
<v Speaker 2>what they've got returning.

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I was disrespectful for us to leave off

0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 1>a team that features probably one of the best three,

0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:11.400
<v Speaker 1>if not best quarterback to receiver tandems in the country. Yeah.

0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:14.040
<v Speaker 2>So, of course Jed Fish leaves, but Brent Brennan's a

0:55:14.040 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 2>good coach in his own right, and you know, with

0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:19.239
<v Speaker 2>some of the returning talent on hand in Arizona, it's

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:23.120
<v Speaker 2>that's another team that I think is interesting. Arizona State

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:27.160
<v Speaker 2>will improve this coming season, might not block out the sun,

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:31.880
<v Speaker 2>but will improve on some level. Colorado, You're right, should

0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:33.320
<v Speaker 2>product chateor a little.

0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Bit better than they have right last season. Yeah, They're

0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:38.799
<v Speaker 1>still not going to be great, but yeah, they should

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:40.200
<v Speaker 1>be more intriguing. Yeah, there's just.

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:42.000
<v Speaker 2>So many points of intrigue in the Big Twelve.

0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:44.719
<v Speaker 1>You said the most interesting, the most intriguing, the most

0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:48.319
<v Speaker 1>what is the scriptor here?

0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Most interesting conference in America is the Big Twelve.

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:58.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm not there because I still think you need like

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the clear top as a measuring stick, and in my mind,

0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the top rung is real fluid within the conference? Does

0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:09.400
<v Speaker 1>that not make it more interesting for you? Though? It

0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:11.400
<v Speaker 1>might be the most entertaining, I don't know if it's

0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the most interesting.

0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:14.839
<v Speaker 2>I could go with entertaining too.

0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what. I don't know what the exact

0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:19.920
<v Speaker 1>difference is it's more entertaining because week to week you

0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:22.359
<v Speaker 1>don't exactly know what you're going to get. But I

0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:24.960
<v Speaker 1>like what we're going into the season in the Big

0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Ten and probably less on the ACC, but the Big

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Ten in SEC with where you like the tiers can

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:34.399
<v Speaker 1>be argued a little bit more cleanly than you can

0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:36.480
<v Speaker 1>in the Big Twelve. I think it makes for more

0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:38.839
<v Speaker 1>week to week entertainment, but I don't know if that

0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:42.360
<v Speaker 1>makes me more interested in the depth of this conference more.

0:56:43.239 --> 0:56:47.600
<v Speaker 2>There's a there's a pretty good chance that two teams

0:56:47.600 --> 0:56:49.080
<v Speaker 2>from this conference are going to be in the playoff

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:54.040
<v Speaker 2>this year, Okay, right, because figure at least three from

0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:58.279
<v Speaker 2>the SEC and the Big Ten six, probably two from

0:56:58.280 --> 0:57:02.120
<v Speaker 2>the ACC. That takes up to eight. We know there's

0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna be one from the non power level yep, and

0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:08.640
<v Speaker 2>that leaves you with three and you can kind of

0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:11.720
<v Speaker 2>mix and match with you know where where those teams

0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 2>come from. But I think I think we can assume

0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:16.479
<v Speaker 2>at least two come from the Big twelve, which two

0:57:17.200 --> 0:57:20.200
<v Speaker 2>That makes it incredibly entertaining, incredibly interesting from week to

0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:22.960
<v Speaker 2>week because it's so wide open. You know, whoever wins

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:24.720
<v Speaker 2>the conference is going to get in and then there's

0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:28.520
<v Speaker 2>probably a team behind them. So which two teams those

0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:32.080
<v Speaker 2>are going to be means be seen, Sure, but it's

0:57:32.080 --> 0:57:36.280
<v Speaker 2>gonna be fun as hell. Who do we want to

0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:39.919
<v Speaker 2>close out with? We've done the power conferences so far.

0:57:41.680 --> 0:57:43.200
<v Speaker 2>We've obviously done the Mountain West.

0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you want to be American, you want to do

0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:47.600
<v Speaker 1>the sun Belt? Where you want to go? I want

0:57:47.600 --> 0:57:49.040
<v Speaker 1>to talk about the Sun Belt a little bit. Let's

0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:49.600
<v Speaker 1>go Sunbelt.

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm super interested in the sun A lot of changes,

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot of changes, a lot of changes the sun Belt.

0:57:58.400 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 2>To me, we've called them the fun Belt. Everyone else

0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 2>is called them the fun Belt too. Yeah, the James

0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Madison storyline over the last year was so much fun,

0:58:11.560 --> 0:58:13.080
<v Speaker 2>and part of me is worried that it's just going

0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:15.320
<v Speaker 2>to bottom out now because Kurt Signetti's left. Now, this

0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:17.160
<v Speaker 2>has been a program that's been pretty good for a while.

0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they made the decision, it was a conscious

0:58:19.080 --> 0:58:22.120
<v Speaker 2>choice to go up to the FBS level, and they

0:58:22.160 --> 0:58:25.480
<v Speaker 2>obviously acquitted themselves pretty well in the short term.

0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Wait, but which conference did JMU turn to to fill

0:58:30.160 --> 0:58:33.720
<v Speaker 1>that void? Would that be the Patriot League? And be

0:58:33.760 --> 0:58:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the Patriot League? Would that be the gentleman from Holy

0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Cross stepping in Bob Tesney. Sure is that the name? Yeah?

0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, continue the James Madison storyline, I think for me

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:47.400
<v Speaker 2>is the most interesting full stop.

0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:54.120
<v Speaker 2>But outside of them, we'll get app State. App State's

0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:57.640
<v Speaker 2>been sort of the top dog for a while. Sure,

0:58:57.960 --> 0:59:02.160
<v Speaker 2>you know the one that we think of. Louisiana's been

0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:02.640
<v Speaker 2>pretty good.

0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Troy loses its coach. Forget Troy, They've got Jared Parker.

0:59:07.560 --> 0:59:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even considering them.

0:59:09.120 --> 0:59:13.640
<v Speaker 2>South Alabama loses their coach, Ken Wamack going down. Georgia

0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Southern well Clay Helton.

0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Act three and five in the sun Belt last year.

0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:23.439
<v Speaker 1>Georgia Southern. Yeah, who's the star? The star is still

0:59:23.480 --> 0:59:29.120
<v Speaker 1>probably jam you until proven otherwise. I mean Apupstate, given

0:59:29.160 --> 0:59:31.000
<v Speaker 1>track record, obviously has to be in that conversation. I

0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:32.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is a binary solar system, but

0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I know who my my moon is. GJ. Kenney and

0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the Texas Tate Pobcats. Oh man, he stole it from me.

0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Come on, I was setting it up, man, I was

0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:47.680
<v Speaker 1>setting it up. That's the up and comer. Yeah, that's

0:59:47.720 --> 0:59:51.720
<v Speaker 1>the up and comer with Troy starting over with South Alabama.

0:59:51.760 --> 0:59:53.720
<v Speaker 1>The Jags have done really nice job, and I think

0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:56.760
<v Speaker 1>occupied that space has been pretty dangerous these past few years.

0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Young gj Uh. The Bobcats not very easy to say, No,

1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:06.240
<v Speaker 1>it is not. It is kind of a mouthful, a

1:00:06.240 --> 1:00:08.320
<v Speaker 1>secret mouthful, which was what that was the name of

1:00:08.320 --> 1:00:10.440
<v Speaker 1>your debut album. It was way back when it was

1:00:10.560 --> 1:00:13.080
<v Speaker 1>mixtape technically, Yeah.

1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Bobcats baby, I think.

1:00:15.240 --> 1:00:15.320
<v Speaker 1>So.

1:00:15.960 --> 1:00:17.720
<v Speaker 2>I was intrigued by what they did in the Portal

1:00:17.800 --> 1:00:20.960
<v Speaker 2>last year, Yeah, And I was impressed at how quickly

1:00:21.040 --> 1:00:25.080
<v Speaker 2>he was able to assemble the troops and put something

1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:29.480
<v Speaker 2>out there that felt cohesive and was the TJ.

1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Finlely experience.

1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I trust GJ. Kenny at this point. I think, Yeah,

1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:40.360
<v Speaker 2>as as your ones go, that was pretty impressive. And

1:00:41.080 --> 1:00:43.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, if you live and die by the Portal,

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<v Speaker 2>you're always going to get burnt at some point. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Portal is still a pretty big part

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<v Speaker 2>of how he plans on building that system whatever one

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<v Speaker 2>comes next.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think, yes, the Portal giveth and taketh away.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think GJ. Kenny might be looking at this

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<v Speaker 1>as like giveth him a bridge to TCU.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like bail will take GJ. Kinney after r exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'm in on Texas State as a team

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to keep growing as a couple of these powers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't you know, starting over is a weird thing

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<v Speaker 1>to say, because Troy has been good for a few

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<v Speaker 1>years now. So like even if you're down on Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Park or whatever, like, there's still dudes there. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting conversation. It's really interesting conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, so listen With all that said, about an

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<v Speaker 2>hour from now, what starts to happen, Dan, is the

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<v Speaker 2>moon passes between the Earth and the Sun.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me write this down. I saw that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>very specific path. We know people who are like driving

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<v Speaker 1>to Indiana for like cause that's where like the very

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<v Speaker 1>specific path near here is through like southern Indiana.

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<v Speaker 2>It it kind of worms its way up into a

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<v Speaker 2>good chunk of Ohio Eerie, takes out Eerie, and then

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<v Speaker 2>goes across I think through the Northeastern Corridor up through

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<v Speaker 2>Vermont as such. So that is what happens. That is

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<v Speaker 2>the the I guess schematics of how this actually occurs.

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<v Speaker 2>The moon then casts a shadow on the Earth, Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>and that track that you just reference that's where that

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<v Speaker 2>shadow is most prevalent. Right, So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you've got plans to go out there and see this, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's hidden here in like I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess there too or whatever. In like half hour, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you say, an hour?

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to start up in about yeah, a half

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<v Speaker 2>hour hour? And then can I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't have a glasses? Do you have the glasses? I

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<v Speaker 1>do have the glasses. Where did you pick them up?

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<v Speaker 1>Like a supermarket or something?

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<v Speaker 2>My wonderful mother in law dropped them off. She found

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<v Speaker 2>she found ones that were legit and not the knockoff

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<v Speaker 2>type that you can buy online that might burn your

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<v Speaker 2>eyes out. These are like legit ones that are to code.

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<v Speaker 1>My older son brought home a pair, so I'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>look through his.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you got muscles, man, take them muscles. You

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<v Speaker 2>got more muscles than the kid. Just take the glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, no, I'm gonna give him an.

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<v Speaker 2>Opportunity to assert your dominance.

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<v Speaker 1>How long is it? How long does it pass in front?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it the time?

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<v Speaker 2>I think here it peaks around three thirty. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure about how No.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, is it like a two minute thing? A

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minute thing. How long will you will be in front?

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<v Speaker 1>You will see some portion of it for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like twenty thirty minutes. Okay, right, so there's time

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<v Speaker 1>for both of us to get some time in absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this something that excites you? Is this something that

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<v Speaker 1>gets you going as a space guy?

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<v Speaker 2>It is? Actually yeah, okay, I'm into it.

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<v Speaker 1>But can you fully appreciate it with your like subpar vision?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they say that when the eclipse occurs, reds and

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<v Speaker 2>greens will look a little bit different to the off

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<v Speaker 2>right and you can't handle that, to which I say,

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<v Speaker 2>they already look different for this guy. Yeah, how much

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<v Speaker 2>different could they look?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you look at a solar eclipse when you were

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<v Speaker 1>a child and that did that alter?

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<v Speaker 2>It? Could have? It could have? I mean, it happens

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<v Speaker 2>every like I mean the last one was twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>It happens every so often.

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<v Speaker 1>But was that solar or lunar? No?

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<v Speaker 2>It was solar, okay, But we did not have quite

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<v Speaker 2>the same pathway as we do.

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<v Speaker 1>And this doesn't happen again for how many years? Twenty

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<v Speaker 1>is like twenty one years, twenty one years, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>twenty forty five something like that. Yeah, twenty twenty years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll look through. I'll look through my kid's glasses. Get

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<v Speaker 1>a good sense of it. I'm excited. I can appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful day here in the Midwest. It is

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<v Speaker 1>here over there, it is here. Great all right, Well

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<v Speaker 1>look right in silver badgemail dot com. Let us know

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<v Speaker 1>you're yes, Let us know which moons are passing in

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<v Speaker 1>front of which stars in your particular conference. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a favorite moon non earth division.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big iyo guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been a big iyoga. That Jupiter.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Jupiter. I've very volcanically active love that. Yeah, big

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<v Speaker 2>io guy, always have been. All right, poster on my

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<v Speaker 2>wall fio.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true? No, not at all? Oh, come on, tye,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, that's all I have.

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